/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>My friends both asked me to do a group cosplay with them both
>really excited
>first group cosplay
>spend months and a ton of money building and buying
>3 weeks to go
> they haven't started at all
>'sorry anon but we both had a kin shift!'
>fucking otherkin
>gonna go to con and kick ass in my great cosplay anyways
> they haven't even started on their new shit and their room got canceled
>feelsgood.png

>tfw never had sex
>walk into the hotel room
>girl I came with is having buttsex with some dude

Really fucked up the con desu.

>some friends see me in burando
>now they only contact me if they want money


This happens way too often,

>buy secondhand clothes from a girl in need to help her out, we become friends
>she learns i wear burando and is impressed, we stop talking for a while (unrelated)
>suddenly she calls me a week later (she hasn't even shipped the clothes yet) saying how she has bpd
>comes crying to me saying she can't afford medication anymore and needs me to send $100 asap (keep in mind I bought some
>pretty much tell her "good luck with that"
>she tells me last time she was off her medication she tried killing herself and she told me she was absolutely positive she'd try so again unless she gets the money to get medication
>pretty much tell her "good luck with that"

the other story i cant mention because I know the person lurks /cgl/.. but if they realize what they did I just want them to know thats why i stopped hanging out. your constant asking me for money wasn't cool.

>>9214736

Ah, BPD. A gigantic sign saying you are a gigantic manipulative bitch.

>>9214710
>kin shift
a fucking WHAT

>>9214736
*keep in mind i bought something from her already
im sick of my laptop deleting random lines of text when i put my hand on the touch pad

>>9214748
They identify as characters from a game, they legit believe they are those characters and speak like it too, they had a shift and now think they're other characters

>>9214751
Why are otherkin such literal cancer

My first con was Phoenix Comicon in 2009 and I was still in high-school. Back then I was just taken by the glitz and the glamour.

Now I'm 21 and I drink alone and stay up late and wonder what the difference is between doing that at home and doing that at a con.

I see cons mostly filled with kids that were my age when I went to that first con in 2009 and I just wonder, "what the hell am I even doing here?"

>go to con with friends
>must make all the dicisions
>and if I choose wrong they complain
Fucking hate this, why do I have to make all the dicision and drag they lifeless body around... but I also don't wanna go to cons alone...

>lowkey resent most of my comm
>feel kind of guilty because most of them are nice people, but it's getting embarrassing, let me break it down for you
>small meets featuring a selection of the following:
>perma-ita with a persecution complex
>~creative and experimental~ girl who can produce great coords but has more misses than hits
>really new girl still finding her feet in the fashion
>really sweet girl with decent outfits who wears the same horrible wig with every coord
>girl with semi-decent outfits who wears a rotating selection of horrible wigs with every coord
>well-dressed dramatic bitch who rarely turns up
>cute and well-dressed girl who's secretly crazy
>literally two people that dress well and aren't crazy or bitchy

I'm actually getting really sick of hanging out with most of these people, but it costs a lot to travel to other comms so I'm stuck.

>>9214751
Did you then proceed to break at least two knees of them, distributed across the two as you see fit?
Why did you become friends with god damn otherkin in the first place, that's like being a tranny except even less connected to reality

>>9214863
Make new friends who aren't pieces of shit.Or tell them to act like adults.

>>9214872
Where do you fall in your comm description? Better than everyone you described? If so, you sound like you might be happier traveling to a better comm and some events once in a while, just attending a few meets locally and being lone lolita the rest of the time. Your local group sounds pretty typical of small to mid-size groups when the girls aren't that good but aren't terrible either.

Don't let it discourage your own Lolita style.
Maybe you could hold an outing with the 2 OK ones and get New Girl on the right track while dropping some hints on the 2 with bad wigs. Unless you are just some kind of super-wig-perfection snob...

Be sure your own wardrobe is super good and check your expectations and sodium levels before becoming so critical and ripping on your home comm though and remember that what people post on the internet is often the very best they can show and usually not representing what they (and their comm) look like for everyday or at regular meets, un-photoshopped.

Why are people so booty-bothered when some girls don't do lolita fashion or cosplay very well and think they automatically need to be told or critiqued etc? Wouldn't these critical people just do well to make sure their own coords and cosplays are as good as they can be? I don't see this nearly as much in other hobbies, people getting ruffled if their friend in the hobby isn't as good or is way better or even judging them so much. Or critiquing strangers who did not ask an opinion but get one anyway.

>>9214751
I think that's called roleplaying, anon

>>9214921
Oh anon this most DEFINITELY happens in other hobbies. I'm into airsoft and like to go to milsim type events as well as lolita and let me tell you those guys can be just as bad about this as lolitas can. If your airsoft kit isn't completely accurate to what country's forces you are trying to recreate they will talk mad shit. I guess the only real difference is they will say it to your face instead of anonymously over cgl. Trust me, there's shit like this in every hobby.

>>9214932
Anon being kin isn't the same as roleplaying. Because with RPing you separate yourself from the character still (though I recall 'mun's being a thing).

Kin is them just saying "I literally am this character"

>check out some normie fashion groups
>people actually posting their t-shirt/jeans outfits in WAYWT
Am I weird for being exasperated by this? Why do people think anybody will care about their basic outfit, and why would they even feel the want to post it at all? Maybe I'm too spoiled by J-fash but this makes me sad, I feel like even with basic cute clothes you'll give a little effort at least.

>>9214933
Well that's discouraging too. I thought airsoft was more focused about the shooting competitions. At least saying to your face is better than backstabbing, I guess.

>>9214942
You're not alone. I follow a few people on various social media who have started doing ootd posts with their normie ass clothes, literally like slacks and a work shirt or tshirt and jeans, and I just cannot fathom why anyone would care.

>>9214942
>>9214944
SOMETIMES, but not all the time, these people are brand whores. You might not know their plain t-shirt cost $200 and jeans $500, but it could have. And they probably still look boring and shitty. Other brand whores can usually spot the expensive designer shit and "appreciate" the outfit based on its value.

>>9214872
Why don't you just become a lone lolita then? You could stay in the comm but mainly do things on your own, and maybe attend a few larger meet ups

>>9214942
Look around you on any given day. WAYWT threads are usually just about 'what did you throw on your body today'.
If your expectations are higher, join a better group or one with cute outfit focus or Asian fashion. Though describing it as 'normie fashion', complaining that regular people post mainstream casual everyday stuff in a general fashion group and your disappointment just sounds like you are some kind of a hipster weeabo.

>>9214944
I assume they're doing it for themselves? I take photos of my boring normal outfits a lot because I like to look back on it, but I've never found a place online where it feels appropriate to post them.

>>9214921
sorry you got posted

on /cgl/ most us will call people out for looking shit but will also acknowledge when people are doing a good job. take the critique and apply it if you want to get any better. but if you want to remain stagnant and never improve, by all means cry about anons shitting on your and other people's coords.

>>9214942
Minimalists and people with capsule wardrobes often do this and sometimes they think your idea of cute or unique outfits are just juvenile, try-hard, cluttered or junky. Depends on your taste, I think. /r/WAYWT literally states 'no rules' though so people post what they like and wear, I guess.

>>9214972
I wasn't posted, my coords are fine. And no, my friend who dresses badly didn't get posted either.
Some people do dress badly or make bad cosplay, that's not the point. Some people dress badly in their everyday too.
I'm just not interested in being fashion police and blabbing to others what I think they should be doing with their own clothes or cosplays. It's not my job (or anyone else's) to 'improve them' unless they ASK for critique or help. Calling them out and pretending it is some kind of fashion 'tough love' so they can 'improve' is not only rude, it doesn't really 'help' them. It's just an excuse to bitch about them, admit it.

>left lolita two years ago because spending habits were truly terrible
>attend local comm sales event with some friends
>buy two simple, old school main pieces because why not? Can't hurt to have two cute and simple coords
>a month later I now own 4 brand main pieces and even some shoes
>waiting on several packages
I was so proud of myself for finally saving money. I just like fancy clothes. A lot. Hopefully this time around I can some better self control but there's a $400 OP calling my name. It's a bittersweet fall back in to the fashion.

>>9214983
the internet is a mean, mean place.

close your eyes or step away from the computer if you get triggered so easily. looking forward to your response.

>>9214994
I'm a grown up, I can handle the big meanie-pants internet. But what do they get out of it and what good does it really do? Do the people they put on blast improve or just fight back and/or whine or do the people so ass-bent on un-invited critiquing really get some odd satisfaction from it rather than just saying 'oh well' and tending to their own fashion or cosplay?

>Gonna do a Felyx Cosplay

>>9214991
I almost had this problem, but I made a ride or die wishlist and I psych myself out from making impulse buys by telling myself that if I spend on something immediate, I won't have enough to buy the super dream items when they pop up.

I've been able to save a lot and ofc I pinch pennies where I can and buy used for plain items like blouses and shoes.

>>9214943
Eh you've just gotta take everything with a grain of salt. There's always gonna be people in hobbies who take everything too seriously. That's not to say you should half ass your hobbies but if you're enjoying it that's all that matters. Also I mostly do milsim type events where the point is to more simulate a military engagement than compete so maybe for actual airsoft competitions its different but I'm sure it's still the same to an extent.

>>9215005
I never really had the dream item mentality, but if something is aesthetically pleasing and suits my wardrobe I'll want it. Maybe I'll make a small list of essential items and limit myself to how many main pieces I own. It's not like I even wear the dresses every day, or even every week.

>>9214974
>unironically giving a shit about what minimalists think of you

Every one I've ever met was pretentious as all hell and had an inordinate amount of self importance pouring out of every orifice. I don't understand the mindset they have in that they are proud of having less and that automatically makes them better than everyone else. You aren't better than everyone else for having less shit. You'd be better if you donated every penny you didn't spend to a charity yeah but FFS you know they don't.

>be plain looking guy
>no one ever pays attention to me, compliments me, or starts conversations with me
>haven't had friends since high school
>start to crossplay at local convention even though I'm going by myself and afraid people will think I'm weird
>suddenly everyone loves me

Every year I do this
>make tons of friends
>guys and girls ask if I'm single
>even had people asking if I wanted to hook up or have threesomes, men and women asking

It's the best feeling in the world, but I'm scared that I'm turning trans

>get a good job
>buying wishlist pieces
>have a nice wardrobe now
>comm near me is dead
>been too busy working to actually wear my things out
>only got to wear lolita out and about for multiple days during an out of state convention in June

What the fuck? Lolita catch 22.

>>9215022
Most minimalists are just concerned with their own stuff and don't give a shit about other people's amount of stuff. It's only the few snobby ones you hear sounding off, judging others, much like vegetarians and vegans. My vegan friends don't give 2 shits about my steak-munching habits and my minimalist friend actually likes my lolita frills, she would just never wear them herself.

>when your friend finally gets her dream dress and her coord is not very flattering on her.

>>9215031
I live in an area where it's a big trend and most of the ones I've met try and police other people.

>losing weight for cosplay
>already down 2 dress sizes
>going for 2 more
>too scared to start sewing new costumes because I know I'm going to be losing more weight

I'd be less scared but one of them is literally a jumpsuit and the first time I made one turned out shitty because I had to resize it to be more form fitting. Should I just sew now and plan to tailor later or wait?

Related note:
>local Joanne's out of muslin
>order online
>"should be there next week!"
>1 week later
>"order cancelled, out of muslin"

>>9214872
You need to take a chill pill and not take this stuff so seriously. Try to enjoy the people that do actually show up for their merits and try to build closer friendships with them over those things. Then maybe you can give them the truth and tell them how to unfuck their stuff without them going mega bitch on you.

>>9214863
You need to find friends who are actually into this scene.

>>9214780
You might need to reevaluate your life choices if this is seriously giving you pause. Do you even still enjoy the lolita fashion scene / lifestyle?

>>9215041
I can see why it would bother you then, that would be very annoying. But it is very ironic since as I understand it, a big part of minimalism is someone focusing harder on what is most important in their own life, setting personal goals and getting rid of distractions so usually what someone else does, has or is wearing isn't about them and the minimalist shouldn't be concerned at all for it.

>>9215022
>You aren't better than everyone else for having less shit.
Did you ever hear anything of how minimalist design actually works? The idea behind it is kinda "You aren't done building it when you added everything you can, you're done when you took away everything that you could while still preserving, or perhaps enhancing, its intended function."

This is an engineering mindset, in a way. It always happens when you have limited resources or strict outside constraints. For example, when building a plane, literally everything not strictly necessary that you add directly and negatively impacts the ability of the thing to fly (because heaver or more air resistance) so you MUST make it sleek as fuck. You won't ever see a plane with frills.

In architecture, Bauhaus (pic related) or Brutalism follow kind of similar mindsets.

>>9214780
Hook up with some friends your age and try some different cons. Some cons just stay very young in their age draw, and often cosplayers will branch out and go to cons with known older crowds. I want to go to Dragon Con.

>>9215028
It's not trans, it's just becoming a crossdresser. That fetish can exist without you wanting to get your hormonal system destroyed and your balls chopped off. It's all kinds of weird but at least you get to keep your sanity for the most part, if you can keep it down in serious IRL.

>>9214710
>otherkin friends
You must be 18+ to go on 4chan

>>9215043
I'm going through the exact same shit right now (well, a variation) because I'm getting /fit/ before my conscription service so the boot camp doesn't totally shrek me to death. The pants that I couldn't button up two months ago now hang saggy on my ass.
Focus on acquiring items that do not go through size changes, such as shoes or most accessories. Once you settled at your new size you can get into the items that would be affected by such changes.

Also, great job on losing weight! Keep it up!

>>9214921
With cosplay, I don't mind at all if other cosplayers are bad, since I feel like I'm just trying to make my cosplay the best it can be. With lolita, people that dress badly drive me up the wall because I'm interacting with them in a different environment. Instead of being in a large, anonymous convention centre where it's expected that you'll have the spectrum from "pro" cosplayers to casuals who are just having a bit of a laugh, you're doing activities together a small group where you have to interact with members of the public.

There's a big difference in the way normal people (e.g. staff in a café or shop or strangers on the street) respond to the comm depending on how you're dressed. Itas and sissies are a liability, as they make the difference between people thinking you're strange but cute and polite and thinking you're terribly-dressed weirdos or a strange sex thing.

>>9215065
It's not a fetish for me though I don't think.

The first time I did it there was kind of a fetish element I think, just because it was new and excited. I uh, did get hard a lot when putting my outfit together, but I think it was the taboo, once I got to the convention all the anxiety and pressure totally removed any sex feelings from the equation. And ever since then, I've never gotten any kind of sex 'thrill' from it. Honestly dressing in girly clothes for crossplay makes me feel a kind like.. deep genuine happiness I never knew existed. And it makes me feel confident and just better. Maybe because I associate it with getting so much love and attention... but now after doing it a lot it's leaked into my normal life. Like, wearing guys clothes every day, keeping my hair short, it feels dull, depressing even. I'm starting to feel like all this time I wasn't happy being a guy and never noticed it because it just felt normal. Crossplaying at my con is the highlight of my year every year, it's all I look forward to now and it means so much to me. Sometimes I feel like if I was a girl I could look and feel good all the time.

>hormonal system destroyed and your balls chopped off.
Yeah that doesn't appeal to me. I don't want to chop anything off or get surgery. Maybe I'm not trans

>>9214983
I'll admit I don't want people who are doing it wrong to shit up all the tags and make the rest of us look bad. We all put so much effort into this hobby, it's pretty insulting to see someone who didn't try at all claim to be lolita or whatever.

>>9215081
Don't you have any bros? I mean as in friends, not relatives, you know, the kinda buddy that you'd feel fine losing a limb for. I sometimes feel alone and unloved here at the university while circling the drain of infinite exam torture, so I make a meet with my best bro on the weekend and just hug the shit out of him. Then maybe go to the city and do some shopping or videogames.

>>9215079
>>9215082
These replies actually make sense. I wonder if there are people who hesitate to go to meets because they don't want to be seen and associated with some people who are badly dressed or behave badly. Do you know of anyone who was posted to the ita thread who benefited and improved?

>>9214999
>being triggered this hard
kek

>>9215003
Pic or won't happen.

>>9214915
>>9214950
My coords have always had a good reception when they've ended up on here, I'd say I'm well-dressed but perhaps a little basic. I know this is typical of smaller comms but it's just getting so depressing. . . every comm I've been in has had a couple of itas, but they usually didn't turn up to every meet and the circle of regulars and mods were well-dressed. This comm has absentee mods and ita regulars. I'm making more genuine friends in this area, but travelling to see friends in other comms is costing a lot, and I work so much I could only wear lolita once every couple of weeks even if I was lone. Ironically, it's often the smaller meets that get a better turnout, as there's less chance of a disaster showing up and people don't seem to feel as much need to be "creative" with their outfit for a casual get-together.

>>9215046
I'll try harder to make more friends in the comm, it's just difficult because although (like I said) most of the girls are nice people, I have nothing in common with most of them and all I can do is make bland small talk. I wish there was a subtle way of mentioning the wigs but I really don't want to hurt either girl's feelings and the whole comm has a "fuck the h8rs!!" attitude to any crit they get online.

>>9215081
You can be a transvestite and feel good in those clothes without wanting to live your life as a woman. It doesn't have to be a sexual thing.

>>9215111
I thought transvestites were crossdressers who do it for sex reasons and trannssexuals do it because it makes them feel more comfortable and happy with themselves

>>9215089
>I wonder if there are people who hesitate to go to meets because they don't want to be seen and associated with some people who are badly dressed or behave badly.
I'll put my hand up and admit it puts me off attending, and if you lurk here you'll have seen people complaining about it in comm threads. Usually it's not just dressing badly that gets people to avoid a meet, it's dressing badly and being loud and obnoxious.

As to the ita thread thing, I really doubt it. I have seen one or two people on /cgl/ say they got posted her and used it as motivation to improve, but I'm not sure I believe it.

>>9215079
As an extension of this, I literally don't give a shit about seeing itas at comms, but it bothers me a lot to see them at meets.

>>9215114
I've never heard of transvestite being exclusively sexual, just like I have heard people talk about crossdressing as both a lifestyle and, more commonly, a feitsh, while transsexual is more akin to transgender, but I could be wrong. Whatever the term, I just meant that OP doesn't have to have it be a sexual thing nor does it mean he's "turning" trans. Frankly, to me, it does sound like he's linked those happy feelings of making friends and getting attention with the clothing, but idk im just some rando on the internet.

>>9215079
>There's a big difference in the way normal people (e.g. staff in a café or shop or strangers on the street) respond to the comm depending on how you're dressed.

This is why we have a private, invitation-only comm. I'm in a conservative area, and if itas, weebs or I'm sorry to say even non-passing brolitas came out to meets, it would draw negative public attention.

There is another comm that has a dozen or so loud, badly dressed people nearby and yes, they are considered as weirdos when they go out. I've even heard them complain of it. No thanks.

>>9214724
Best post on this thread so far

>>9215118
*itas at cons, damnit

>>9215122
Transvestite is Tim Curry in Rocky Horror Picture Show. Transsexual is the surgery and hormone therapy option.

>>9215079
>thinking you're terribly-dressed weirdos
To be fair, some people are always going to think you're terribly-dressed weirdos, but not being ita definitely helps.

>>9215081
It sounds like you are letting the girl stuff overshadow your normal life. I'd work more to bring happiness to the daily life and just enjoy the times you dress up too but also not let it run your life and feelings.

>mfw i get invited to an online comm that isn't shit

has it happened? have i finally found my people? am i not a complete lonelita anymore?

it's a good day for this salty gull

>>9215028
What sort of things do you crossplay?

I'm interested in crossplay myself, but I'm not sure if I can pull it off that well.

>>9215087
I have a few real life bros but we mostly just play video games together, we don't have strong personal relationships. I don't think anyone would lose a limb for me. I've always been a bit of a loner but I'm just that kind of person. I was never like, an outcast or a loser, just someone who kept to themself. People who meet me tend to like me. I still talk to a good number of people I've met at cons.

>>9215135
It does though, it completely overshadows my normal life.

>I'd work more to bring happiness to the daily life and just enjoy the times you dress up too but also not let it run your life and feelings.
Things aren't really bad. I have a pretty comfy job, I don't make a lot but enough to live with some very polite roommates who don't bother me. I have free time to play video games and read, I cook all my own food and I'm pretty good. Life isn't bad, but nothing makes me happy the way dressing up does though, I wish I could feel that way every day. Not just the attention and praise, but just seeing my skin and hair all soft and nice, wearing clothes that actually feel nice to the touch instead of just being there. I've stepped up my male wardrobe a lot since I started now that I have more interest in clothing but it's not the same. Being /fa/ and wearing nice button shirt and pants, doing my hair in a male style, it does nothing for me. Feeling hairless skin under soft girl's clothes just feels so nice, just walking around the house feels nicer that way. Seeing my face with makeup the accentuates my eyes surrounded by pretty bangs feels way fucking better than seeing my forehead and facial stubble. That's why I'm starting to feel jealous of girls, because they're allowed to be pretty and girly every day while I can't. But the thought of being part of the whole trans thing, the stigma, its like repulsive to me. I don't want people to see me that way. I don't want to chop off my junk, that's never part of it.

>>9215158
>I was never like, an outcast or a loser, just someone who kept to themself.
Well then it's obvious. You're not getting any attention as your regular self BECAUSE you're ACTIVELY not drawing attention as your regular self. As a crossplayer of course you'll be in the thick of it, everyone's trying to pick up something to fuck at cons. This contrast is confusing you and making you think that crossplay is by default more desirable, while in reality you could be getting the exact same attention as a normal dude if you'd just actually be putting yourself out there instead of loning it up.

You ARE a loner when not crossdressing. You're attracted to you "bent gender", if that's even an actual term, because you're still mostly straight and desiring cute chicks to bang; this goes so far that you mistake your own disguise for something you want to fuck and get aroused by it.

I recommend getting /fit/ to a degree of having visible abs and cosplaying a macho man character with a naked upper body and wearing a facial mask, so you can still feel enough freedom of anonymity that you can get your swell on on the chicks at the convention. This may restore your inherent male drive to some extent.

And just as an aside, not having friends who'd lose limbs for you (or that you'd lose limbs for) is a surefire sign of FAILURE. I wouldn't be the guy I am without the three, four bros I got that I'd place my hand into a fire for. You might want to work on that too.

>>9215150
I've done Madotsuki from Yume Nikki, Kei from Moyashimon, Youmu from Touhou, white mage from Final Fantasy

>but I'm not sure if I can pull it off that well.
It helps to wear stuff that covers your whole body so you can pad the right areas and stuff. And things that poof out so it makes your hips bigger. Also don't eat anymore lol

>>9215131
Right, more or less what I said but putting one in terms of a hyoersexual fictional character. Eddie Izzard is a more practical example of a transvestite that also shows how it's not exclusively a sexual thing.

>>9215177
You have to keep some form of balance. You can't neglect your real you for a persona you made up and that you can only show at cons. Try getting a gf, maybe that will restore the balance.

>>9215175
I'm really really skinny for a male, so I got that part down. I was actually wanting to try my hand at lolita, although that's quite different from crossplay and might attract a different kind of attention, if any at all. I've gotten plenty of people wanting photos for my Ezreal cosplay (League of Legends), but beyond wanting photos nobody really chats or invites me to anything.

If you're getting asked if you're single or for sexual favors, then I can only assume you look damn fine and do your makeup extremely well, which is what I'm the most concerned that I'll fuck up.

>Making cosplay for the first time in my life
>I'm just so excited, I literally thought this was impossible for someone like me to do
>I only know how to basically use a sewing machine, like a basic "how to use a sewing machine" video on YouTube
>buy a bunch of cool fabrics like this nice embroideried white one, pleather, and this silk stuff
>this shit is all super hard for me to use
>build and destroy my costume so many times
>build destroy
>build- "hey this looks pretty good!"
>destroy because wrong measurements
>feel like I've made this piece a gazillion times, and it's only a crop top. I still need to make the arm sleeves, skirt, shoe covers and thigh highs
>have to take breaks sometimes and just walk away
>finally somewhat get the piece I'm working on to look okay, still gotta see some parts down and add some buttons but really proud of myself
>have no cosplay friends or friends that would understand how much work I've put into this thing
>cgl doesn't even have a work and progress thread up right now, in fact I rarely even see threads about people making their own costumes really

Feels a little bad but only a little because I'm still excited even though I have a long way to go with this costume.

>>9215158
As a girl reading this, it honestly sounds like you are fetishizing or at least compartmentalizing and idealizing some of the very specific and quite superficial parts of what it's like to be female.

OTOH, what's stopping you from dressing more like what you want to more often? Shave, grow your hair and style it, wear some makeup, buy some blouses. Some men have a look and style that borders on androgynous feminine and they like that style.

>>9215199
>BRSiMW
Black Rock Shooter in Modern Warfare?

>>9215199
>forgot to mention I abandoned the hard to use farbrics and just got some simpler ones, ones that I can actually use now

>>9215203
Black rock shooter is mai waifu
I came from /a/ way back in the day but once I started to go to other boards people would shit on me for an obnoxious anime trip
>inb4 don't trip at all
No

>>9215213
You are not tripfagging, you are namefagging, and now so am I look what you have done you could have prevented this
Nevertheless good taste in waifus but dedo mastah is better for femdom fetishists like me

>>9215171
But I don't want that kind of attention as a normal dude. I don't want to get /fit/ or have abs either, I like the way I fit into my clothes.

>cosplaying a macho man character with a naked upper body and wearing a facial mask
This sounds extremely unappealing to me. I like wearing dresses and stockings and things like that, I like feeling soft clothes all over. And I like seeing my face with makeup.

>inherent male drive
I don't think I've ever felt anything like this. I've never really cared about being a male or reveled in it, it's just the way I was born. It's actually a bit saddening how so much of how I'm supposed to act and think in public is dictated by it, which is why I like cons so much, you can just be however you want with everyone.

>not having friends who'd lose limbs for you (or that you'd lose limbs for) is a surefire sign of FAILURE
If you say so. I wouldn't mind having some stronger friendships but if I'm not losing sleep over it, why does it matter?

>>9215185
But my con 'persona' is infinitely better than my regular self. It doesn't feel like a persona either, it feels more like that's how I want to be all the time, but I'm just can't be outside of cons.

>>9215188
It helps that I get a lot more sociable and confident at cons. People start talking to me and I talk back and then I usually find some people that let me tag along with them and meet more people. Now I see the same people that I spent time with before and I'm part of a regular group.

>>9215201
>it honestly sounds like you are fetishizing or at least compartmentalizing and idealizing some of the very specific and quite superficial parts of what it's like to be female.
You may be right and I hope that's not the case. But I feel like I'm just responding to what I've experienced. Even when I go out of my way to look good as a guy, maybe my mom or grandma says I look handsome, girl I work with says I'm dressed nice sometimes or she likes my hair. But at cons everyone tells me I look my hair looks great, my skin is nice, they say I'm pretty or I'm a cute trap it feels wonderful. And then I go back to work as a guy, and I see people saying the same things they said to me at the con to my female coworkers just regularly. And it's not just the praise from others, I feel better about myself that way. My face and hair and clothes just feel like a uniform.

>OTOH, what's stopping you from dressing more like what you want to more often? Shave, grow your hair and style it, wear some makeup, buy some blouses. Some men have a look and style that borders on androgynous feminine and they like that style.
Just societal pressure. My family is pretty against gays and trans and stuff like that. I don't want people to think I'm weird or a pervert or a creep. I like things easygoing and low stress and I don't like the idea of drawing negative attention. I just have this nagging feeling that because of the things I like to do that make me happy, my life would be better if I was born a girl and people wouldn't question me. I know that there's way more to being a girl than just clothing and makeup.

>>9215221
>why does it matter?
Because this is the root cause of you feeling better as a crossplayer than as a normal guy. You lack positive reinforcement for being your actual self, so you prefer the fleeting momentary positive reinforcement you get for dressing as the opposite sex.
>it feels more like that's how I want to be all the time, but I'm just can't be outside of cons.
Well yeah, because unless you're going full tranny, you cannot. Don't you see the cognitive dissonance? You HAVE to take steps to become more comfortable in your normal persona, otherwise these feelings will progress further and further tilting out of balance. You have to ground yourself in objective reality and embrace it. That's the sad truth of it.

I'm not enough of a dick to tell you to stop crossplaying if you're having fun, but you definitely should try making your regular life more fun if this is the kinda crass contrast you're manufacturing in your head over it. One cannot be (mentally) healthy with a growing dislike for their actual self. This WILL lead to issues in the future if allowed to proceed unchecked.

>>9215233
I see what you're saying, and I think that you're right that this is going to lead to problems for me. But I disagree with you mean by true self.

I'm just me. If I choose to go out of my way to lift weights, get strong and huge and manly or choose to be skinnier, wear dresses, makeup, and have long hair, what's the difference really? I've made a conscious effort to change myself into a certain look either way, why is one valid and one not valid just because of my DNA. Well, besides the fact that everyone says that one is valid and one is not, but I don't see the rationale for one of those being valid and one being invalid. I don't think that wearing a dress or lifting weights will mold me into my true self, I feel like I'm my true self no matter what I look like or what people say of me. My problem of course is that dressing like a girl makes me happier than dressing like a guy, and I dress like a guy all the time, which makes me want to dress up like a girl more. Am I really supposed to force myself to like dressing like a guy more? Is that really more my 'true/natural' self if I have to force it instead of just responding to my feelings?

I'm not trying to sound ungrateful for your advice, I am taking what you've said seriously.

>>9215251
Well, because for all the love in the world, one of those will get you accepted by society and the other will have you rejected, extremely violently. And this is going to involve a lot of negative feedback instead of the positive one you've been craving. Which will confuse and agitate you further when it happens. I've seen it happen dude.

Like I said, I'm not against it, in regulated amounts. Maybe you'd want to look at it like... videogames. It's perfectly fine if you do it occasionally and it's great fun also. But when you do it 24/7 you're slipping into the realm of danger. Same for this, really. And lets be realistic, if you'd actually do it as much as you're wanting to right now, it would lose a lot of its luster soon. It's always like that if you overdo something.

Maybe a good counter-example would be furries. Some people like dressing up like that. Sure, fine. They extract sexual pleasure from it. Fine, I wank to some disgusting stuff too. But I keep that to myself, you see? It's when they take to walking around in public like that and rubbing it in everyone's faces is when it gets annoying and disgusting when you remember that it directly gives them boners to do so.

Everything in moderation anon. Keep your balance. You'll only start valuing it when you've lost it.

>>9215267
If I was a girl would you be telling to practice moderation for dressing up, or compare it to being a furry? It's only because I'm a guy, which is why I'm feely about it. It doesn't seem fair at all, even though I know it's reality.

>if you'd actually do it as much as you're wanting to right now, it would lose a lot of its luster soon.
It's definitely possible. But there are lots of girls who have instagrams where they show themselves dressing up in cute outfits on a regular basis, for years even. It brings them attention, enjoyment, encouragement. What's wrong with it? If I was a girl, couldn't I be one of those people?

But you're right that if if I pursued it more, if I tried dressing like a girl more then it would bring me plenty of negative attention. So basically my options are, try to enjoy what I don't enjoy more, or try to enjoy what I do I enjoy less. There doesn't seem like a good solution.

>>9215225
The problem I see with idealizing this superficial set of feminine things is that it seems like you are giving them weight and importance beyond their actual value to your life as a whole. Of course we all love the way we feel at the height of our social moments but that is a fleeting state no matter if it is cross-playing, going to Disney, modeling in a lolita fashion show or any other highlight. We don't live either a life full of highlights nor expect our everyday life to mirror what we feel during the highest points. It's a false expectation.
I don't see anything wrong with enjoying your crossplay or even doing it more but I think you should try to minimize its impact on your regular life and not let it take a false sense of importance. Your feelings, well they are what the are, but you can choose to minimize the conflict with the rest of your life by keeping the crossplay in perspective for what is, a part-time enjoyable hobby.

>>9215273
Different anon to the one you're talking to, but there is a third option; find more things you enjoy.

Surely you can find happiness doing more than one thing. Perhaps you should try some traditionally feminine hobbies (baking, crafting, playing otome games, etc) to find some middle ground? Or any hobbies in general to take up the time between cons (playing an instrument, hiking, painting, etc)?

What do you have to lose?

>>9215158
You are a man, there is no way you can take on the perceived advantages of being a woman with no down sides. Being a woman also has its downsides but you just focus on the shallow parts from your position of male privilege. We don't sit around thinking how dreamy it is to have smooth legs, we worry if our pay raise will equal our male co-workers this time or how to grit our teeth and smile when the boss call us 'honey' again.

A con environment is a weird bubble, very different from the everyday so unless you live in a place where openly cross dressing is accepted or you pass as a woman, you'll never be able to achieve all the feminine advantages without the stigma. And trust me, the compliments on appearance are vapid and get old.

>>9215221
>People start talking to me and I talk back and then I usually find some people that let me tag along with them and meet more people. Now I see the same people that I spent time with before and I'm part of a regular group.

I actually always go to cons with two friends of mine...do you think already "being in a group" would turn people off of further conversation? Like they're intruding? I always thought it would be nice to make some cool friends at a con, but it's hard to break out of your already set group of friends.

>>9215171
I'm not really a part of this conversation, and I do have friends that I think would "lose limbs for me", but you talk about it like it's easy to acquire. The only reason I have them at all is because we went to high school together and have been good friends for over 8 years now. You can't develop that kind of a friendship with anything other than long periods of time.

>>9215273
>So basically my options are, try to enjoy what I don't enjoy more, or try to enjoy what I do I enjoy less. There doesn't seem like a good solution.
More like, compartmentalize. I used the example of a furry because that is the most extreme image of someone who took a single facet of their massive being and let it dominate all others. You do not want to become that guy, because in a few years you will grow up more, discover interests in other fields that you never before even considered and then kick yourself for boxing yourself into one single thing. Enjoy what you enjoy, but don't let the thing you enjoy BECOME you. I see this often in younger people, this 100% or 0% mentality. There is MANY things you could be enjoying. Don't limit yourself to a single one or a handful.

What the other anon said is true, you could try looking for more other stuff to enjoy, and I encourage it.

>>9214699
Can't she just wear shoes?

>meet guy in a hobby related chat
>talk for a few months
>he helps me with a project I was working on
>realise I like him
>he likes lolita and asks lots of questions about its history and rules
>read my favorite book and he loved it. He sent me a copy of the authors favorite stories.
>he's willing to listen to be ramble about weebshit
>I'll never meet him irl probably but I don't care I'm happier than I've been in a long time

I've been in such an unusually positive mood because someone like this even exists.

>female privilege: the thread
Seriously, check it. Would you ever accuse a girl of being a fetishizing creep for preferring pants over skirts? No. Why are you supporting these toxic double standards? There is nothing wrong with a male wearing skirts, just as there is nothing wrong with a female wearing pants.

>>9215430
marry
you won't find someone like that soon again

>>9215435
Nice false equivalence fallacy. Fuck off back to dumbrl bitch. Reality is harsh, deal with it.

>>9215439
Would you say that to someone complaining about wage gap too? Shut up, life is harsh, find other pleasures in life than money. Kill yourself, you privileged piece of shit. You have every option in the world when it comes to clothing, you will never experience the feeling of being slapped in your face with your sex every.single.time you see a cute piece of clothing you'd like to wear. You have every design avaible to you, you will never know this oppression.

Even if wr pretended it was purely sexual, why is female sexuality so much more accepted? Every con is flooded by hundreds of fujoshi dressing up as the newest fujoshi anime, clearly sexual, but if a male dares to look at anything that can even be suspected to be sexual, he's immediately labeled as a creep.

>>9215437
We don't live anywhere near eachother and I'm not sure if my feelings are returned. I think he's just fascinated because I like things he knows nothing about and my life is a black comedy.

I'll just admire his intelligence from afar.

>>9215445
Yeah of course I would, because the wage gap is entirely fictional. You know what isn't fictional? Death rates on the job. 92% of all workplace fatalities are being carried by the male half of the population. Do you volunteer yourself to get crushed under a loaded forklift to balance out the scales or are you just another whining pussy?

Why are you whining like a retard? The entire thread was 100% respectful but realistic discussion of the topic and you turned it into tumblr tier privuledge babble in three paragraphs flat.

>>9215446
At least go one step further and cyber or something. Come on, you gotta strike the earth here.

>Wearing a cheapo taobao coord on the train
>Woman keeps staring
>She eventually comes over to me
>Ready to give "Its a japanese street fashion..." speech
>"I love your dress! Are you wearing Vivienne Westwood?"
>Kek

>>9215435
People repeatedly told him to enjoy his crossplay but read the way he types about what he thinks it is to 'enjoy being a woman' and then tell me it does not sound pretty fetishy. I'd say the same damn thing to a female crossplaying a male if all she reduced 'being male' to was "Ooh, look how handsome, how ripped, I wish I could just be a handsome guy and enjoy that kind of attention all the time". Guys would laugh and say, "Hey it's not like that".
It's fantasy and wanting it 24/7 or you are just 'not happy' is very unrealistic.

>>9215453
Different anon, but that's not really the best example. Women actually do want to be involved in jobs that routinely top lists for fatalities, but they're often male-dominated spaces where female workers are harassed or possibly flat out not hired. More women actually do want to have successful careers in construction, fire fighting, and sanitation, for example, but they're frequently boxed out of succeeding or face such high harassment, often sexual, from day one and cannot find the support to fight these sexist mentalities within the occupation. And the wage gap isn't ENTIRELY fictional. Just saying. How about you both abandon this and get back on topic and stay board relevant.

To stay /cgl/-related:
>cat is an asshole who takes running dives into any fabric spread out
>not allowed into my craft room for this reason
>just finished laying out some fabric that likes to curl into itself easily
>husband pops his head in to ask what I'm thinking for dinner
>asshole cat hears the door and runs from THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE past us both to dive into my fabric
>request roast feline for dinner

>>9215445
Anyone can wear anything they want. And I can choose not to have anything whatsoever to do with a dude in a dress which is usually as far as it goes for most of us not into that. Not ew, creep or yuk fetish, or even 'why?'

just 'nope, avoid'. And that's that.

>>9214933
This.
I play magic the gathering and some people you play against will go through your entire deck and tell you what to change to maximise efficiency, even if you beat them. Let me enjoy my shit and play the way I want!

Yeah I just want to say that I'm sorry for mucking up this thread with my ranting, I just thought I'd dump my /cgl/ feels and I didn't mean for anyone to get upset by it.

>>9215300
I wasn't trying to just focus on the shallow parts of being a girl, I was just focusing on the part of being a girl relevant to my specific issue. I want to wear cute clothes, I'd be able to do that with less hassle if I was a girl, and that's all that I meant to say. I know that that is not all of what being a girl is, I know that that isn't even relevant to many or most girls, I wasn't trying to make the thread political in any way. Just ranting about my feelings.

And probably going to regret this but for the record, I would gladly cut my pay in half or more just to be able to wear cute stuff all the time without worry, just because that's relevant and important to me, and me only. That isn't a statement about men, or women, or anyone else. Everyone in life has their own priorities and issues regardless of gender, and some things are going to be more relevant for each person than other things.

And last thing, I do have other hobbies besides dressing up, I like cooking, vidya, programming and drawing. And sewing if that doesn't count as part of dressing up

>>9215317
Well you want to dress and act like a woman but not have anyone judge you for it, right? That's not going to easily happen often in most circumstances unless you actually pass for one. You can certainly seek out more opportunities where crossplay and crossdress IS accepted but those aren't terribly common in most places so you'll likely have to travel some. Use your vacation to go to more conventions, or lolita events if you want to cross dress and try lolita. Not all comms are 100% welcoming to brolitas though so be aware of that.

>>9215430
I met my guy of 8 years online. Not out of a fairytale, but something very real and wonderful.

I've been to the BTSSB shop near me 4 times, everytime I get blistering service. Feels dolan man.

>>9214699
i mean, it's not like anybody's going to see her lost toe

>>9215491
Are you future me?

In all seriousness though, it is possible to find the balance between wearing cute things, and still living as a male for those around you. You could create a cosplay/crossplay/crossdress blog/insta where you could post the pictures, and still potentially get compliments, or if that's too much you could post some WIPs in the crossplay threads that seem to be a constant feature now. Sure you won't always get good attention, but that can be refreshing in it's own way.

>>9215505
We both admit we aren't in a position to do much of anything about whatever this is. I'm just enjoying it until it's over.

He asked if I'll still like him when I don't like him anymore and I took that as he actually wants to be my friend and I'm not just some girl online he talks to because he's sad. I'm happy enough just with that.

>>9214724
Are you a girl? Were you romantically involved with this chick, or what? I have so many questions. How do you know it was buttsex and not just doggy style?

>>9215030
Duuuude! Im in the same exact position rn. I've bought two new dresses this year, have 2 complete outfits from last year I have worn; and just havent had time to dress up for lolita or go to a meet up all year. My first event where I can dress up is at the end of this month.

>>9215555
Yes.
No.
I saw his peepee in her back hole. I'll never unsee it.

>>9215300
The wage gap is not real, if your employer was paying you unfairly based on gender you would have a lawsuit.

The wage gap myth comes from collecting the total wages of males and females and comparing them. Females make less money because they tend to CHOOSE careers that pay less, like preschool teachers or caretakers, while men tend to choose higher paying STEM careers more often.

Also as a woman you don't even have to work, there is plenty of guys out there who you can marry and live as a housewife, men don't have that same privilege. There's a reason why over 80% of the homeless are male.

Being a female is far easier than being a male in western societies at the very least.

Finally some good feels!
>NYCC
>worked on cosplay for a few months
>every time I posted it on here I get berated and told to throw it all away and start from scratch
>fuck it, decided to go, lost 30 lbs and look decent
>got endless photos taken and found a group of people from the same fandom and we basically got gridlocked into getting photos
I knew my cosplay could be better but I got so much attention that I had a blast

>>9215300
Another thing, one of your complaints was actually an example of your female privilege.

Your boss calls you honey? Oh how horrible. You mean you're more likely to receive something like a promotion or special treatment from your boss because of your gender, while a man wouldn't?

I have a really worrying obsession with food. I lost 70 pounds a few years back ,so I'm no longer fat, but it still crops up now and then.

Damn it, I have to be a sexy widdle babby for Halloween cosplay. But here I am, eating a pbj on top of Burger King. Fucking kill me.

>>9215585
>sexy widdle babby

...what? i think you have more things to worry about besides a food addiction

>>9215577
If you call privilege sometimes having a boss you don't want to be alone with because you are afraid he will come on to you and then find an excuse to fire you when you refuse him, then you have a delusion going. Lucky me, I get to worry that my boss is sitting there thinking how he want to bone me. How cute I must feel!

>>9215585
>sexy widdle babby

wtf. Are you Yumi King?

i hit this weird spot where, unlike the last year or two, i actually have the money to cosplay because i'm scraping by financially, but i don't have anything in particular that i'd like to do. i want to remake some old things now that my skill and budget is better, but aside from that i just don't have the urge to do new characters.

it may be because i'm in sort of a fandom slump, i guess? the only things i'm into now i've been into for years and i've pretty much done all that i really want to do. there's things i want to make just for the sake of making it but i don't usually do that and i feel like i won't have as much fun wearing it because it's not "i'm doing this to be my top fave".

>>9215589
>you are afraid he will come on to you and then find an excuse to fire you when you refuse him

You are afraid of silly things, the chances of this happening are probably well below that of getting in a car crash, but you don't worry about that when you get in a car. Seriously most work environments with women everyone is walking on eggshells, you think too highly of yourself if you think you're gonna find a boss who will risk his career over some bitch.

>I get to worry that my boss is sitting there thinking how he want to bone me. How cute I must feel!

Much better than never being sexually wanted like most men. Elliot Rodgers killed people because he never got any sexual attention. I would love to see you women put into the shoes of the bottom 80% of men who aren't sexually attractive. You call them "creepy" just for existing in your vicinity.

>>9215603

>i'm NOT scraping by financially

i left out an important word there

Why do the feels threads always devolve into some neckbeard vs. legbeard fight? Stahp, you're going to get the thread deleted.

>>9215586
>>9215590
It's a perfectly normal expression.

>>9215605
He killed people because he was mentally ill. Sane people do not go on killing rampages over not getting any punanny.

>>9215620

No, it isn't. It's weird as fuck to sexualize a baby. Please go back to the degenerate hole where you came from.

>>9215624
It does take a special mindset to go on a rampage over it, but undoubtedly the most major aspect of his life that caused the issue was not being sexually desirable. He wrote an entire manifesto about how he never got to have sex, he said himself that's why he went on the rampage.

>>9215626
You are taking the comment way too seriously. Please go back to your SJW tumblr blogs.

>>9215626
I'm not actually a babby.

>>9215585
>>sexy widdle babby
Kek. I love it!

>>9215634

I'd hate to add on to this conversation because it feels like we're beating a dead horse, but when I was rotating a mental hospital, a common thing men would fixate on was sex. Being sexually desirable, woman finding them desirable, access to sex being somehow denied through unseen forces. It was really bizarre. Obviously, I only have a small set of not very diverse data to work off of but it seemed a good portion of younger men with positive symptoms of psychoses would have this issue.

>>9215639

Why would you want to be one though? Healthy babies have chub. Closest thing to a sexy baby would be a BBW.

>>9214903
>>9215046
I tried to make new friends but I have level 4 autism.

>>9215634
Son of Sam also said something like his neighbor's dog told him to kill people. Do you believe that too? Because killers are mentally ill or they wouldn't kill people and try to blame it on things like bad dog advice or lack of sex. You don't go and kill people because you don't get sex unless you are mental. And you don't believe the manifesto of a mentally ill person. They believe what they are writing, sure. But then they are deluded and ill.

>tfw you never see feels threads before someone shits it up so you never get to discuss feels

anyway, i had a nightmare where i checked cgl and someone flooded the fire emblem thread with morbily obese odin cosplayers

>>9215646
The phrase isn't about a literal infant.

>>9215644
Better commit all male virgins then.

>>9215658

Not saying that at all, I think it's more that sex is a common theme in society. So like 9/11 conspiracies, telepathic messages from aliens, and government spies implanting devices into people, it gets into the imaginations of the mentally ill and they twist everyday occurrences into something more sinister. Which really is psychosis in a nutshell.

>>9215649
>You don't go and kill people because you don't get sex unless you are mental.

I never said he wasn't psychologically unstable, but he still had reasons behind what he did.

>Son of Sam also said something like his neighbor's dog told him to kill people. Do you believe that too?

I would believe that he heard the dog say to kill people, yes. From this example I take it your worldview is heavily skewed by TV/movies, the large majority of mass killers are not at this cliche level of madness.

> And you don't believe the manifesto of a mentally ill person.
>They believe what they are writing, sure. But then they are deluded and ill.

So if a "mentally ill" person writes that 2+2=4 in their manifesto, I shouldn't believe it? Everything they say is automatically false/wrong? You're taking the ad hominem fallacy to an extreme. What about other "mentally ill" people who have never hurt anyone? Is everything they say a lie too?

He might have been "mentally ill", but that doesn't change the fact that the main reason and motive for his rampage was lack of sex. I'm simplifying it down to that, but male incelibacy is a complex issue that a woman/dumb-bitch like you wouldn't understand because you can't relate and you lack the level of intelligence required to have the empathy to comprehend it.

>>9215662
I think what it means is that sex isn't just this thing that you can throw out of your life and pretend everything's normal.

Can some people? Sure. But not on a mass scale.

Sex is a basic need just like food and water, and without a prostitution industry and with sexual standards for men higher than ever, pyschoses can develop based on that.

>>9215662
>Not saying that at all, I think it's more that sex is a common theme in society. So like 9/11 conspiracies, telepathic messages from aliens, and government spies implanting devices into people

Sex is not a conspiracy theory. Sex is a reality, and it has an extremely significant impact on society and human life. What you're saying is nonsense in it's literal definition.

My friend lost her phone and purse at the con. Gdi, now she's got no shit.

>meet new person
>try being confident in who I am and what I like
>open about my hobbies
>realize how awkward I am even when "being myself"
>catch myself putting people off, having them avoid me, by simply being truthful about my life and what I do with my time
>the autism is not an amendable dysfunction
>I am the autism

Well, even the stars shine as solitary bodies until they burn up and die out, I guess.

>>9215677

One day someone will embrace your autism. Not meaning that in a derogatory way but I mean that sincerely.

I was dropping major spaghetti with this guy but now we're together and he thinks my awkwardness is cute. So there's hope for everyone.

>>9215658
There's a difference between the mild sexual obsession I'd expect of a male virgin and an incelibate who decides to punish the world because of his deep-seated sexual problems. Elliot Rodgers had also been in therapy a very long time, his problems were more than just incelibacy.

>>9215666
I'm saying that subjective things written by crazy people about to go on s murder spree aren't likely true or valid for the rest of us.
Most laypeople do not understand anything about the delicate issues of the incelibate and the angry tantruming of the man-babies who are the most loud and visible stereotypes and poster children for it don't help the cause one bit.

>>9215688
>another person doesn't want to see truths because those truths are uncomfortable to them
why do i bother.

you can't get any ass because you're probably a 1 who thinks they deserve to fuck a 10. if you stick to trying to fuck people who are as ugly as you are, you'll actually have options.

>>9215700
>saying I you look good enough for an ugly person
Even ugly chicks reject me...

>>9215692
>Another person pushing subjectives as if they are universal truths.
Why do I bother?

I had a great con last week. I can't get over it. I met so many cool people, and everyone loved my coord.

>mfw I saw my friend's bf's balls at the hotel

>>9215708
How many mass shooters and institutionalized men does it take until you realize that maybe sex isn't just this disposable aspect of a person's life?

>>9215704
see, if you go up to talk to a bitch and immediately start crying and complaining you might as well retire your dick permanently.

Really hit it off with a girl at a con, then found out she lives all the way across the country.

>>9215711
Why did you see his nuts?

>>9215712
I don't think it is at all disposable. But I don't think society is responsible for providing it or suffering death if they don't. Many people have debilitating life issues, this is not a small one among them.

I don't have answers, I'm not a professional, but I'd urge anyone with these issues to seek help asap. This subject has strayed into territory that is beyond someone's amatueur opinion and also beyond the scope of a fashion and costume image board thread. Peace out.

>>9215717
If society isn't responsible for providing it, even by form of prostitution, then you aren't providing any solution. Just telling people that they should fuck off if they can't have sex via the Alpha/Beta animal system.

>tfw it's that time of year when I want to mori but I can't because all my 'free' time to dress in crazy fashion is devoted to lolita

I just want to look like forest bad lady with all sorts of chiffony rags hanging off of me but work doesn't seem like an especially appropriate place to wear that.

>>9215726

>bag lady

Although I'm probably a bad person too so maybe that was freudian.

>>9215713
Nah man even with super cocky confident it doesn't work.

>>9215721
People can hire a prostitute almost anywhere in the world, society doesn't owe them sex. Many women who do not formally consider themselves prostitutes often form relationships of convenience and negotiate sex terms. Sex is considered an important need by almost everyone I know, very close after water, food, shelter but just as most reasonable people expect to provide themselves these things, so too with obtaining sex. No one owes it to you. Alternately, many holy men and women remain celibate for long periods, with seemingly no ill effects.

>>9215728
I like term 'forest bad lady' quite a lot, actually! Dark mori for me please!

>>9215712
The fuck kind of bait is this?

>>9214699
>elf conscious

I see what you did there LOL

>>9215648
Where you from? I would be your friend. I'm easy going and no decision is ever a wrong decision with me. You could take me to a back alley and rape me and I would still be okay with your decision.

On the down side of that, I'm really indecisive so if you ask me "which hole do you want to get raped in" I wouldn't be able to pick...

>>9215603
Maybe look at some background characters or less popular characters from series you're into right now that have interesting designs? I used to only cosplay characters I strongly identified with, but I've shifted to being happy doing stuff that has a cool design from a series I love if I've already done or can't do the major characters. I did a Star Trek Cosplay at the last sci-fi con I went to, and I didn't want to do any of the main six so I went as a monster of the week.

I've hit a bit of a slump too because I got bored of anime and most of the live-action stuff I watch isn't cosplayable.

>>9215506
Doesn't losing a toe fuck up your balance in weird ways?

>>9215756
Incel rant. Next topic pls.

The weather is so nice here, the summer heat has passed. I had felt so dull and blah all summer, but now I feel like I just woke from it and am alert, happy and ready to make some autumn and winter lolita plans. I have made 3 brand new coords since I last went to a meet and I might just get my closet organized nicely at last!

>>9215758
Here my kik: Purptato
It's hard making new friends, please take care of me senpai.

>>9215199
Congrats anon! Sewing was a slow learning process for me but I hope you get the hang of it.

>>9215765
No because your body will adjust itself. It's the same as having big or small boobs.

>>9215715
Don't let the distance discourage you, I met a girl that lives in a different country. Have been friends with her for about 9 years now.

>>9215103
>absentee mods and ita regulars
Is it possible that the mods are in an "elite" comm you just don't know about, or hosting private get-togethers, and what you see at meets is the dregs?

>>9215652
Wow, that IS a nightmare.

>>9215771
Not that guy but I don't use that system. You got a Discord or Skype?

>>9214942
My cousin's friend is a normie beauty/fashion blogger who I s2g has the most boring style I've ever seen yet she still has a relatively big following. Her entire wardrobe comes from H&M and Zara and the most adventurous she ever gets with outfits is when she paints her nails or wears a necklace over her plain top, plain jeans and converse. I understand that not everyone wants to get dressed up every day, especially not in lolita, but the fact that she gets so many views and even sponsorship deals for posting the kind of outfits that I'd only wear for errands on a lazy/sick day is boggling my mind. Her personality and opinions are extremely cookie-cutter, too. I guess some people really enjoy having being reassured in their normality or something.

>>9215118
Same here. I don't really care when ita's show up to cons or private meetups but when we're in public and some girl's cheap wig is slipping off or her dress is ripping at the seams (noticed both on several people at my last meet) I cringe so hard and try to distance myself from them as much as possible. But of course when people see a bunch of girls in poofy skirts walking around it's obvious we're together in some way. In my experience normies often CAN tell the difference between a cohesive coord that had thought put into it versus some ita clusterfuck. Unfortunately the ita clusterfucks tend to stick in people's minds and bring the whole group down.

>tfw you have boobs

Just found the most adorable shirt, but its bust is 81 cm. I'm probably going to buy it anyway and attempt to alter it, but still.

>>9215081
>I uh, did get hard a lot when putting my outfit together, but I think it was the taboo
>not a fetish
all trans women in a nutshell, fucking gross. just be a cross dresser dude damn

>keep stumbling in my RHS because of uneven ground
>break the platforms off constantly

God damn it I've had to switch into my emergency sneakers every day this weekend. That's not fucking kawaii, and it's hard on my socks.

I just want cute shoes that can take a beating.

>>9215499
Quoted the wrong post buddy

This is something about crushed expectations
>Visiting hometown
>Love Live tribute in local con
>being a love live fag this is fucking dandy
>also want to film their Nico saying saying hello and some words (which are part of some massive intricate in-joke but nothing too weird) to one of my roomates (who had gone to his home city)
>looking a friend who said was going to go
>it would be easier to do this Nico stuff with him, since he knows someone who knows a guy who knows one of the girls and he's very sociable
>also wanted to practice speaking to cure my shyness, be less of an autist
>we may have ended up talking about life and enjoying it
>maybe this time I would be more active in that lovely off-topic kind of conversation
>feeling confident about being able to talk to people
>finally locate him
>wave hello to some of his friends, who I'd used to meet regularly, doing it joyfully since I have not seen them in a long time and we had may things to catch up on(also they are the first people I see since he is facing the other way)
>realize they aren't the ones I know
>have to tap him since he can't hear me
>we don't talk too much, specially since they are talking about a somewhat foreign topic to me (tabletop role playing)
>also despite the number of people I know who like cons, nobody else I knew came
>performance about to start
>hear a pair of pesky memer underages in the crowd say something about "It's nico nii"
>feel angry at kind of guys who had been showing up at cons lately
(tbc)

>performance about to start
>hear a pair of pesky memer underages in the crowd say something about "It's nico nii"
>feel angry at kind of guys who had been showing up at cons lately
>That also made me a bit insecure about what I wanted the girl to say since part of it involved saying "nico" and was afraid of bothering her with a joke I saw as unfunny
>end of performance
>have a little bit of a tough time finding her later since she is so very tiny
>meanwhile I rehearse what I'm going to say, how to introduce my request, and what words I wanted her to say
>she with some other of the raibus
>Try say hi and if she'd like to
>it ends up being a quiet hi and not sure what to say next
>repeat
>Umi tells her it seems I want a photo with her
>spaghetti begins manifesting in my pockets, but not coming out
>think they think I'm loser
>she asks me if I want a photo
>I ask her for some video for some boy when there were some more adequate words I couldn't get my tounge on
>she seems to be kinda shy, nervously saying she's okay with a photo but not a video
>the way she said "not a video" also made me nervous, since she said it nervously too and not in a "fuck off" way I was afraid (and kinda prepared) to face
>attempt no negotiate are null as we are both nervous
>couldn't think of anything to say to negotiate (not even "it's just a little words"
>now I can't decide
>photo of her or with her
>which one would be more appropiate for this banter feud I have with my roomate
>I pretty much want to fix this muddy mess
>The joke would have worked at it's best if I could have gotten her to speak in camera
>and I wanted to execute it at its best because if not, it was nothing
>but I knew I couldn't
>a sad bitterness flows through my veins, resignation
>fuck me most of what I spoke was kinda stuttered
>fucking hate kinda stuttering

>>9215893
(cont. and end)
>after that brain maelstrom that lasted like a second I take a photo of her
>So damn cute
>It's kind of a relief
>but so distressed that I leave the place to walk round the square for some air, maybe buy some water
>return
>cosplay contest already over
>not a problem as the costumes weren't that interesting
>though my friend and co. are by the entrance leaving
>awkward
>but not that much since I’m already done
And apart from the live and all that emotional turmoil nothing in that con was memorable, my only pictures were of the live and that single Nico

On the bright side I had never seen cosplay of a series I liked as much as Love Live. It was amazing, kinda like what Japanese otaku feel when they feel moe (at least in the more old fashioned definition of the word). That and the Performance also made me feel a funny feeling of blending reality and fiction.

I'm super jealous of my friend who barely even cosplayed, but got friendly with a really amazing cosplayer. Lately she's been teaching him everything and made a lot of parts of his costume.Their group was super popular this con. This happened with someone else I know as well. Zero skills, got friendly, and got most of her costume made for her while she barely attempted to learn. Meanwhile I'm struggling on my own learning these things by myself.

How do I make new cosplay friends? Especially great cosplayers that can teach me, or at least grow with together? Most of my con friends never cosplay or quit cosplay...

>>9215903
Easiest way is to talk to people at cons.
Find people who you like the costume or whatever and go talk to them about. Ask about construction, materials, or whatever. Ask for social media. Go for there.
Alternatively, start posting stuff on social media and try to build friends through that.
Alternatively alternatively, have friends and get them into cosplay.

>>9215914
Thanks, I'll try that.

I think part of the problem is me just being too shy to talk to them on cons....

>staff for a hobby con within a con
>two staff members are fucking around and not taking anything seriously
>one is perpetually eight years old and the other has family shit to deal with
>casually suggest that they step out for the year to catch their breaths and let the rest of us move forward with con planning
>suddenly I'm the fucking bitch who wants to steal their positions
>as if me moving up really matters
>as if I'm not already doing their jobs

>>9215903
You get friends by being a friend. Just be friendly with people who share your interests.

>>9215919
I had very similar issues. The way I personally got over them was by doing masked cosplays. Anything where I was wearing a full face covering.
I think the fact that if I didn't want anyone to know who I was, I could just not tell them made it easy.

>>9215900
Next time bring some glowsticks and wave them around. Also, did you get video of the performance?

> series meet-up at con
> posing for group photo
> allergies start acting up
> try to hold in sneezes keep posing
> photos start surfacing online
> mfw my attempts were futile

At least I kept on getting shotblocked by the swarming mass of cosplayers who failed to understand the concept of moving to the back if you are wearing 3in+ heels and/or are wielding giant armor/props.

>in a long-term monogamous heterosexual relationship but the gay don't stay away
>keep meeting slutty bi women at cons who are absolutely gagging for it because I give off a dominant vibe
>cant take advantage of it

why this

>>9216146
ask your boy to make it a threesome

>too autistic to be fully seen as normal
>too normal to live in blissful ignorant autism

I guess I should be happy that nobody bats an eye when I weeb out and go full autism, but honestly I'd give everything not to have this malfunctioning brain.

>>9215778
I've seen this happen in 2 cities, mostly just leaving the noobs, weebs, itas and social misfits in the main public comm and just having few meets a year.

>>9216146
>in a long-term monogamous heterosexual relationship but the gay don't stay away
>keep meeting dominant bi women at cons who are gagging for it because i give off the fragile submissive vibe
>cant take advantage of it

why this

Please help me
>join local comm
>meet new girl, F.
>F is a 19yo borderline, open about her sexuality/kinks, the fact that she loooves drinking,partying, tru melanie martinez fan and bandwagon jumper ("pokemon go is so cool and i love pokemon and must own everything pokemon now"),...
>she's also well off and kind of a spoiled brat (despite saying how her mother is (not a lie but still) crazy, she still pays her trips to Japan and Taiwan every year)
>not even a month later,while she's still with her boyfriend she ask me if she think we could get in a relationship together one day
>She has multiple drama about how a con photographer assaulted her but she uses his pics as her cover pic??
>also drama about guys/boyfriends/fuckmates that i can't even understand
I regret not backing up then
>She is clingy by nature,but starts telling me how i'm her super BFF while we met maybe 3 times and i don't feel super comfortable with her
>But she bought me nice stuff so i would feel like an ass for telling her off
>summer meet, taking a selfie, she sneaks in and kiss my cheek, super awkward
>last week,she starts throwing a fit about how i went to meet her other bff
>i commissioned her some jewelry,she's a nurse out of lolita and is super busy
>we just met at her house so i could get my stuff sooner than expected and also help her with a new program she has and chat a little
>She began whining about how things are going on behind her back and how people are stealing her friends and how her bff has time for me but not her

I'm so tired of her.
I also had to make the decision to invite her at my Halloween Party or else she would make even more of a fuss. I hate causing drama because i"m a naturally stressed person but I can't get rid of her without causing some. I'm scared she might even spread false rumors on me since she knows many people. I really try to stay nice but...

>>9216258
either cut her off entirely and make your message clear, or keep playing nice and milk her for what she's worth

i mean, nice stuff is nice stuff

>>9216258
you're fucked. Learn to look for the signs of introverted narcissism and avoid people who display them

>open about her sexuality/kinks
>bandwagon jumper
>while she's still with her boyfriend she ask me if she think we could get in a relationship
>clingy by nature

All HUGE red flags, bigger than the biggest. They feed off attention and the drama generated by their presence, always needs to be relevant

>>9216258
maybe you can get together with her ex and start a support group, you'll have plenty of friends to drink with

>>9216258
>open about her sexuality/kinks
>bandwagon jumper (of non-fashion topics, especially weeb things)

In a fashion group, when you first meet someone, both of these are usually clear signs that they will cause drama or have an 'it's all about me' mindset and probably will behave inappropriately. I'm very slow to befriend new people in lolita until I see how they will interact with the comm.

>>9216258
Cut her off. This is bad mojo.

I have a male friend who plays a female moe-type character in an online RP, which is fine with me. I'm female but don't really care much about gender in RP. But lately he has been asking me questions about actually dressing lolita himself in real life since he knows I'm a member of a comm. He is an adult but from a very close knit and conservative family and would have to sneak around to do it. He doesn't have a prayer to pass as a female yet that is somehow his goal. I don't know squat about brolitas and don't have any interest in it personally anyway. I've known one brolita only slightly and he's a creep.

I've been putting off telling him that I don't feel at all comfortable to have this be part of our friendship because I don't want to hurt his feelings or make him feel bad about it. How do I gently tell him that I just do not want to be involved with it at all?

Besides the brolita forum here (he doesn't 4chan), where can I send him for good info?

>>9216343
Send him clips from Little Britain constantly, the ones featuring those two gay guys in the massive victorian frilly dresses that keep acting like huge homogays everywhere. After the fifteenth video he will get the message.

>>9216343
...what questions would he even ask? "what does wearing a dress feel like?" I don't understand

>tfw may have to sell more dresses to make up for the fact my bunnies were misgendered and now pregnant

When I got them they checked the sex right there and since I didnt know better (my fault I guess) I believed them when they pointed to the similar looking genitals (they hadnt hit maturity yet) and told me both the rabbits I was getting were boys.

Well fuck me, I moved and got settled in, found a place to do low cost neutering for my bunnies and thought I would be good til my next paycheck and then I came home today, fed them, and noticed one rabbit was acting very pregnant, gathering hay, making a nest, more agitated then normal.

And of course it turns out he is a she and most probably pregnant considering I figured the humping (she did it to) was a normal dominance thing and thought "dont matter, theyre both boys anyway" but on a happy note

>tfw bought my dream dress recently after saving up for it forever

>>9216355
It started with petticoats, which itself was odd to me. "What do you wear under your dress to make it stand out so much?", "What kind of wig is this?". Then it evolved into "Do you think (item) will look good on me?" (meaning his character, or so I thought), then some makeup questions and I realizd he was really asking about himself in real life. I asked him and he just kind of spilled it.

>>9216349
What is kindness and tact? I'm not out to shoot him down or shame him, I just want out of his lolita-ing endeavors.

>>9215803
I got discord but no clue how to add people or invite or anything lol....

>>9214942
Maybe they just LIKE normcore? Different fashion goals, anon. Some people think most jfashion looks really weird. Why would you go to a mainstream fashion place and expect anything but mainstream fashion anyway?

>>9216370
>Why would you go to a mainstream fashion place and expect anything but mainstream fashion anyway?
Stop making fun of the mentally handicapped anon.

>Hurricane Matthew hits
>power out
>use what little battery I have to browse /cgl/ and online shop
>Power may not be back until October 16th!
>cry inside
>get home today
>power's on!!
>immediately check /cgl/ and tracking on my Jfashion packages

>>9216368
You just post your name with the four digit code behind it. You can see that by clicking on your name, then the numbers will appear. Post it here, I know how to add.

>>9216377
>2016 not having a 100 dollar travel solar panel from ebay to power laptop/phone.
You need some friends from /k/

>>9216389
I have some power banks and our neighbors had a generator thankfully so we could charge our shit but I didn't even think about solar panels.

>>9216385
Potato Lord #5068

>>9216394
Yeah solar panels are awesome, you can hook them onto your backpack and charge your stuff while you hike. Also awesome for survival or jump start your car. A lot of uses.

>>9215711
You know, it's easy to tell you're the same person when you use the same pic over and over

You certainly have some adventures huh anon

So uh, I get super shy around cosplayers. I don't know why.

>>9216441
Wear a cosplay with a complete facemask. Confidence growth factor 1000.

>>9216441
Same here, I wish I could have somebody to train some confidence in me. I can't even ask for pictures without getting to autistic.

>>9216445
But I don't do cosplay.

>tfw I love lolita silhouette, I love frills, I love lace, I love oldschool designs
>but don't love any brand dress enough to make my dream dress or spend that much money on
>what is wrong with me senpai?

>>9216441
>>9216446
Here's a simple trick for confidence training. While walking on the street, make eye contact with someone coming towards you. Do not break eye contact. Hold the eye contact until the other person looks away first. If necessary, hold it all the way until they walk past you.

Do this as often as possible. Not to thuglyfe types who would beat you up over it obviously, but to average Joes and Janes. You will find it almost impossible at the start, but it'll get easier over time.

For a serious course on how to get over yourself and act like the boss you always wanted to be, I recommend the book "Asshole" by Martin Kihn. It's a hilarious romp mixed with a self help book.

>>9216449
Well maybe you should start, oddball.

>>9216457
When you find your dream dress, you'll know.

>>9216146
I fucking relate to this, minus meeting slutty bi women. I need to feed the gay.

>>9216457
Do you lolita at all yet? If yes then you're probably too cheap but might get into it enough to do some spending to look nice.
If no then it's all just a fantasy still anyway so why worry?

>>9216465
I wear bodyline, taobao and handmade. I may be cheap but if I liked anything enough and felt like it'd worth I'd save up and bought it. Problem is brand dresses don't look all that special to me.

>getting into lolita
>have some solid basic pieces, no real dream dresses yet
>starting to fall in love to Mary Magdalene jsks and ops.
>tfw bust measurements stays firmly at 92 cm, even when I lose weight.

I've used minimizers and sports bras to fit into smaller pieces and its so uncomfortable.

In happier feels:
>going to At Home With Monster's exhibits at LACMA this weekend
>gonna be a spooky gothic princess and hang out with Guillermo del Toro's nightmare creatures.

>>9216475
>Problem is brand dresses don't look all that special to me.

>>9216477
I understand your feels, anon. Permenently have a 100 cm bust even when I have a smaller waist size. I buy a lot of skirts and custom sized F+F blouses. Bought a chest binder to fit into some of my fav pieces and finally getting kinda used to it.

>>9216480

>>9216475
I see, then it might be a taste issue if you can't tell the quality difference yet. That's harder to fix. Good luck.

>>9216482
If you don't mind me asking, what kind did you get and how much does it reduce?

>>9215030
These feels

>>9216482
Ugh, that's rough. Glad you found some work arounds. I guess its good I like the skirt life? There's just something so elegant about the lines on MM dresses though.

>>9216485
I can tell the quality easily, I have tailor background. I don't feel like my garment materials must be absolute top quality though. I think non-raschel lace and cotton blend fabrics are enough for dailywear. Plus I'm not into prints or anything ott.

I'm fat with muscular legs, and no matter how few calories I eat, I just seem to get fatter. It's gotten to the point where I'm only eating one meal a day, usually some form of sandwich with water or milk.

I hate not liking how I look. I just want to be small.

>>9216486
It was a really cheap one from Amazon that I can't seem to find again. This one looks close though if you can ignore the obnoxious listing https://www.amazon.com/Breathable-Lesbian-Tomboy-Compression-Binders/dp/B00VCU6UKQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1476142965&sr=8-1&keywords=chest+binder

It doesn't make me completely flat but it gets pretty close. I can fit in pieces that dont have shirring without too much hassle.

>>9216492
Then nothing is 'wrong with you' except you just seem to like cheaper stuff. Why did you even bother to ask? Budget lolita is a common enough thing.

>>9214936
>Anonymous 10/09/16(Sun)12:07:58 No.9214936▶
>>>9214932 #
>Anon being kin isn't the same as roleplay.
>Kin is them just saying "I literally am this huge douche-canoe that is a blight on the roleplay community"

FTFY

>>9216498
Well because it gets weird when people start to talk about dream dresses. I always though budget lolita is when it's impossible to afford something but it doesn't stop you from having dream dresses.
People look at me as if something is wrong with me when I try to explain that I don't have dream dresses and I kinda like some brand dresses but not enough to bother desu

>mfw someone who is ten times uglier and fatter calls me ugly

>>9216505
It might be because that sound like either sour grapes or a special snowflake humble brag in the middle of a dream dress conversation designed to share tastes and bond over. It sounds like you just shit over the entire main group of dresses that the majority of others consider special by classifying them as not special at all to you. Awkward.

>>9216515
What would you suggest senpai? Should I choose a fake dream dress to hype over when topic escalates or are there anothar way to escape this awkwardness?

>>9216519
I don't know, maybe take yourself out of a conversation that you can't participate in? What kind of retarded are you?

>>9216495
just stop eating then desu. nobody likes a whiny fattychan.

>>9216526
Just wondering, how do you take yourself out of a conversation when someone asks you a question? Pic related?

>>9216519
"I don't really have one yet, what's yours?"
Simple social politeness, nothing more.

>>9216537
I wish people accepted that and moved anon, I really wish. But actual reaction is more like "you are wearing lolita since 1889 how come you dont have a dream dress???????"

>>9216495
See a doctor, that is not normal.
Fewer calories in than expended equals weight loss unless something is wrong.

>>9216539
I guess I just haven't found it yet.
I am focusing on my handmade and accessories (or whatever your wardrobe focus is currently)
I guess none have grabbed me yet, my wallet is lucky.
There are so many, it's hard to choose.
I wear more everyday things so the prints seem fancier to me.

Do you even social?
I don't have a dream dress either because I just buy what I like but that sounds like a dick thing to just say in a dream dress conversation with my friends, you know?

>First non-cosplayer boyfriend
>Really serious about this guy and for the first time it doesn't just feel like 'having fun' with no end game
>No interest in cosplaying or conventions from him but I respect that because we have all of the other same nerd interests in common almost exactly matched
>First guy to tell me he doesn't feel comfortable with me wearing really skimpy/sexy costumes so I tone it down a bit since I get all the validation to feel hot I need from him anyway
>I do it out of respect for him not because hes controlling
>Kinda miss flattering my best assets in those costumes though
>But perfect relationship makes me feel fulfilled and I wear the sexy costumes in bed with him instead now
>Would have never tried cosplay sex if I was actively wearing these to cons

I would have never considered compromising on my costume choices with any of my exes but it's different with how serious I feel about him. The cosplay sex is really hot and I don't entirely have to miss feeling sexy in the costumes.

>>9216540
Not even unless something is wrong. It *always* means weight loss. Anon just vastly underestimates how much they're eating.

>>9216593
I'm not underestimating how much I eat. I know exactly how much I'm eating. Usually 1 peanut butter and jelly on whole wheat. 1 tbsp jelly, 1 1/2 tablespoon of peanut butter, creamy. 1/2 cup of milk.

I keep track of this stuff. It's not like I mindlessly eat all day and wonder why I'm not thin.

>>9216606
Unless you are sitting at home doing nothing all day you are lying. It is physically impossible, and you are not above the laws of physics.

>>9216607
I work retail and do work around the house, but I don't currently have a car, so it's not like I'm travelling or anything. I just don't really eat much in general. I keep track of everything using fitbit.

>>9216609
You are not above the laws of physics anon. You can't consume less calories than you put out and not lose weight. Somehow you are not burning more calories than you are eating. I suspect you're lying for asspats.

Also

>I work retail

lol

>>9216607
Chill anon, they probably have something that's undiagnosed, unless they somehow go to the doctors constantly in which case they probably are lying.

But it's stupid to jump to "They're lying!" when something causes a person to gain weight and they don't know what.

>>9216610
Have you ever worked retail anon? You have to be able to lift and climb ladders and shit. Not to mention being on your feet and walking around roughly 7 hours a day.

>>9216612
But they're over eating if they aren't losing weight and they are fat. Their metabolism could be fucked up from being fat, sure. But that doesn't change the fact they are over eating just because you don't want to hear it.

>>9216615
I actually work roadside a lot of the time. Walking around and waving a sign for the store. Either that or I work overstock, which does use ladders for the higher bits, but it's not particularly hard?

>>9216615
Wasn't why I lol'd. I lol'd because working retail is pathetic unless you are 16.

>>9216616
>But they're over eating if they aren't losing weight and they are fat.

Has anyone on this board ever heard of metabolic rate or? You're not gonna lose weight fast just by only eating one meal a day. Sure, you might lose some, but it reduces the metabolic rate so you stagnate. I recommend Anon going for walks and having normal (low-cal) meals with small snacks in between (stuff like kale chips are a personal favorite of mine, with sea salt.)

>>9216618
What did you do through uni, then, oh /pol/ anon?

>>9216626
Do you not know what over eating is you dumb sack of shit? It is consuming more calories than you need. If she is gaining weight she is consuming more than she needs. Yes this could be caused by something medical slowing her metabolism, but it doesn't change the fact she's over eating.

FFS it's not that hard to understand it is IMPOSSIBLE to defy the laws of physics even if it would make your feefees better.

>>9216618
I'm 18, and my parents weren't particularly helpful with any sort of job prospects. It's my first job due to the fact I live in the middle of nowhere, with nobody willing to hire me without a license, which I couldn't get because I couldn't get to the SOS to take the test.

Now that I have, I jumped at basically anywhere that would hire me just so I could get some job experience.

Not everybody has the resources someone else might have to just go get a job.

>>9216628
>/pol/

Stop being so #triggered. Also, I sold art during college. Shortly after I found myself not needing a job.

>>9216633
Nice blogpost fatty.

>>9216632
Oh, now it's obvious. You're just some sad troll wanting to make fun of a fat person you know nothing about on a feels thread. Makes perfect sense.

It's not a medical reason, it's how the body works. Your metabolic rate will slow down if you drop to one meal a day. Your body won't go into starvation mode, that shit is BS, but you won't lose weight even though you're eating less due to your body registering the lesser eating habits. First week maybe, you lose a bit of weight. But that's about it.

>>9216639
Once again, you seem to be too stupid that to understand that calories in < calories out will ALWAYS result in weight loss
I said that her metabolism could have slowed you stupid fuck, doesn't change the fact she's eating more than she needs to.

>>9216639
>someone's metabolism isn't medical related

u wot

>>9216636
Not fatanon but lmao okay.

>>9216642
It's not a medical issue with the metabolism. It's a bodies way of reacting. It's likely not a health issue relating to it, but caused by not eating a normal amount that's causing it.

>>9216643
I didn't say you were her, I was calling you fat because I automatically think of retail workers above the age of 16 as fat trashy failures

>>9216644
>something throwing off your bodies normal ballence isn't a medical issue

???
??????

are you drunk or?

>>9216645
And what exactly is your job? Or did mommy and daddy just decide to support you for the rest of your life?

>>9216648
Used to be a fairly successful artist, no longer need a job. The two aren't related tho.

>>9216647
Well, it would be considered stupid to go to a doctor about it, wouldn't it? Considering Anon here seems to think somehow that metabolic rate slowing is a thing of fiction, and that I can't imagine a doctor actually diagnosing it. It seems like a very basic thing to realize and correct.

>>9216650
>no longer need a job
>The two aren't related tho

So you are supported by your mom and daddy then.

>>9216651
>Doctor my metabolism is fucked up pls help

>sure patient-tan you are paying me for this service and I will evaluate if there are any hormonal imbalances that might be fucking you over

People go to doctors for this shit all the time. You are a goddamn idiot.

>>9216653
: ^ ) nope I'm married and have the privilege of someone wanting to take care of me.

>>9216653
>not knowing HWC

Summer.

>>9216593
Is it a yard long sandwich and a gallon of milk then? I'm not sure how a regular sandwich and glass of milk could be more calories than someone's daily BMR even if very inactive.
Something's off about that.

>>9216653
>>9216651
>>9216650
>>9216648
>>9216645
>>9216644
>>9216641
>>9216639
>>9216636
>>9216633
>>9216632

Can we get back on topic for the feels thread? Someone just posted that they were sad that they weren't losing weight. We don't know anything about their health or medical stuff, so either ignore it or give some sort of advice. jfc

>>9216656
Like I said; she's lying for asspats on /cgl/. It's a good thing I'm here to call her a fat cunt.


>>9216657
But it's really obvious she's here for asspats.

>>9216654
Oh, so you're leeching of someone else. Still more pathetic imo.

>>9216655
It's fucking october, try again.

>>9216661
>do all the housework, cooking and cleaning, handle the checkbooks etc
>leeching

Yeah. Sure.

On a serious note, you must have like 0% in the real world. That shit is a job in itself.

Also

>not knowing the summer meme

she was right, newfag.

>>9216659
>But it's really obvious she's here for asspats.

b-but it's obvious she's lying about something even though I don't know her or even know if the person I'm talking about is a her!!

go back to /pol/ pls/

>>9216661
>Thinks summer is a time of year

kek

>>9216664
>so upset over someone calling someone fat you call them /pol/

You are new as fuck if you don't know that this is HWC.

>>9216662
the summer meme is a meme in the summer because everyone is fucking out of school and on 4chan. It's not just some thing you can declare because someone disagrees with you.

>>9216662
If you consider that a job you're more pathetic than I thought, ana-chan.

>>9216668
>house cleaners don't exist
>accountants don't exist

kek. Stay mad you fat fuck.

>>9216667
Anon themselves called themselves fat and this /pol/ asshole decided that they magically knew everything about the person. I see enough of this in other threads where people mention weight, we don't need it shitting up a feels thread.

>>9216672
It's housewife-chan, silly newfag. She is /cgl/s most notorious shitposter.

gulls i didn't mean for this whole thing to start a flame war. I just wanted to vent.

>>9216675
well she's an asshole. considering being a housewife and leeching off someone else to support you is pathetic.

>>9216676
You probably shouldn't complain about being fat on /cgl/ then, a lot of people don't like overweight people here.

>>9216680
You seriously need to lurk more if you haven't heard of her before.

>>9216682
But it's a feels thread. I've seen plus-sized jfash threads too, I thought it'd be fine.

I am new though so maybe this is just meant to be a learning experience for me.

>>9216680
>HWC is an asshole

She was abused by her mother and doesn't know how to deal with people because of it. You are really fucked up for calling her an asshole.

>>9216683
I don't care how well known she supposedly is, she's a pathetic bitch.

>>9216684
You should start out by lurking for a few months before posting to get the feel of /cgl/, if you do this you are less likely to get such a bad backlash. Just a helpful hint.

>>9216687
HWC was a victim of child abuse and has mental problems, you really shouldn't make fun of people like that.

>>9216685
Boo fucking hoo, cry me a fucking river. People who have abusive parents don't have to grow up to be assholes. For all she knows, fatty anon had one too, yet it's not fucked up for her to make fun of them, just because people somehow know her abloo bloo tragic backstory? Fuck off, you sound like an idiot.

>>9216692
>>>/tumblr/

I can hear your sausage fingers slamming against your keyboard all the way from Japan

>>9216691
boohoo, see below.
>>9216692

>>9216692
So because someone who isn't mentally well over reacts it's okay to call them names?

>>9216697
more like you should go to tumblr if you think someone who is abused gets a free pass to be a pathetic bitch.

>>9216692
>>9216699
Anon, we are talking about someone who is literally insane. She can't help herself. It's pretty fucked up to mock someone like that.

>>9216703
She isn't a bitch, she is literally insane. It is beyond her control to act this way.

>>9216687
>>9216692
>>9216699
Can you please stop? I really don't need someone to whiteknight for me over this.

>>9216706
Because of you someone who is not mentally well is being mocked. Good job.

>>9216701
>>9216705
You literally sound like a tumblr blogger.

"B-but she can't help that she's being a bitch to someone on the internet! She's literally insane and was abused, and for some reason isn't in a facility to help with any of that! abloo bloo!"

>>9216710
There is a difference between /tumblr/ mental illness and actual mental illness. She comes back here week after week for almost an entire year to rage and people because she was abused as a child and her creepy older husband doesn't let her have friends or social media. She is not well by ANY means and you would know this if you weren't new.

It's ironic you accused her of being from /pol/ when you are acting exactly like someone from /pol/

>>9216707
Boohoo, just because you know her tragic story or whatever of being insane, doesn't give her a right to be a twat. She should seek mental help. She could be harassing someone just like her and making it worse, but because people know her, they jump to her defense because "you're messed up for saying someone is a bitch, while I am acknowledging she can't HELP but be a bitch."

So her not being able to help herself somehow makes it okay? kek.

>>9216710
>someone who married a guy 14 years older than her right after she got away from her abusive husband is mentally sound and capable of making rational decisions

Anon. I get that you are upset but she is crazy enough that she should be in a mental hospital, she just can't be because her husband keeps her in the house and won't let people talk to her.

>>9216714
Do you not understand severe mental illness or what?

>>9216713
So she has a creepy older husband, who she rages about, and also calls having him a privilege? And somehow, after being on this board for about 3 or 4 years, I've somehow never heard of her?

sounds pretty tumblr to me. You'd think if he prevented her from using social media, he'd keep her off 4chan.

>>9216721
There is no way you have been here for that long and have never heard of her when she shitposts almost daily in almost 80% of the threads on /cgl/ for the better part of this entire year.

>>9216718
>>9216720
So people defend her instead of just stating that when this whole shitshow started instead of waiting for the fattyanon to ask people to chill?

>>9216722
I've been here for just under 4 years. She's either not in the threads I usually frequent, or just usually not this crazy in threads.

>>9216725
Anon, you were told she is batshit crazy and you didn't listen. It's not that we are defending her, it's that it's fucked up to pick on people who are this level of mentally ill. I mean for fucks sake, she throws up from anxiety daily.

>>9216727
She's usually worse. Are you here for cosplay or Lolita/jfashion? Because she is normally in Lolita and Jfashion threads, since she is a Lolita.

>>9216730
I do both, but I'm usually in the cosplay/fandom cosplay threads since I do it more often. I only have a few full coords in terms of lolita and jfash.

And nobody told me until after I supposedly 'picked' on her, without knowing who tf she is.

>>9216732
You called someone who is extremely mentally ill an asshole, when they are not in control of their behavior. I think that warrants us telling you you are picking on her.

>>9216736
>You called someone who is extremely mentally ill an asshole

The whole narrative of this changes when I am not aware of the persons condition anon.

>>9216744
Not to mention they were picking on someone else over literally a sentence-long vent post. Yet that's somehow okay because they're extremely mentally ill.

>>9216747
Someone who isn't in control of their actions can't be blamed for them, this is the same reason why people go to mental institutions over jail if the kill someone. There are people who do not know right from wrong because their brain is so fucked up.

>>9216749
There are many things I want to say, but I'm tired of this whole thing at this point. She's not worth wasting my time on.

Sorry for making fun of you or whatever, HWC.

>TFW HWC trolled a newfag into apologizing to her for exaggerated nonsense

>>9216772
>TFW you're trying to start up another argument

try harder newfag.

>>9216787
>calling me a newfag for no reason

Stop projecting.

>>9216684
Lamenting that you are fat is usually not attacked in the feels thread. Once in a while only.
"Damn I got fat and muh dress don fit #feelsbadman" doesn't usually cause a shitstorm.

Crying that you are fat and stay fat through no fault of your own will get always get you gutted. Replying in defense of nearly anything that is called out will cause an argument or a debate.

So now you know. Also most weight/diet/exercise threads belong in /fit/, food posts/cooking/menu stuff in /ck/
Which you would know if you read the /cgl/ sticky before posting anything which I would now advise you to do.

>>9216787
So they're just allowed to be an asshole because they claim they're mentally ill with no proof? gg 4chan.

>>9216795
Nobody but HWC said that, and even then she's just trying to troll anon.

>>9216793
I'm fat. I'm sad that I'm fat because it means I don't look good in the Lolita I bought, even though it technically fits. I should have specified. It's not me lamenting that I'm fat, so much as despite the working out that I do (which is usually biking/walking/situps/ etc) doesn't seem to be helping much. I've lost a little, but it always seems to come back. I should have been more specific.

>>9216718
Does she wear lolita though? Are her coords any good?

>>9216806
Nobody cares if you are fat and sad because it's your own fault you are fat.

>>9216808
I do wear Lolita, have since 2008

>>9216802
It seems like they'd have better ways to spend their time.

>>9216809
Ah, and she's back to troll. Good to know she's just... whiteknighting herself? If I'm reading that right. Kek.

>>9216811
She's a bored, spoiled housewife. She doesn't have anything better to do besides suck her husbands dick.

>>9216809
Doesn't mean your coords are good, psycho-chan.

>>9216814
u r dumb as fuck anon

>>9216815
rude

>>9216817
they are tho

>>9216806
This kind of thread doesn't belong in cgl, if 'can't lose weight' is your subject, it belongs in /fit/ (where they will also tell you to get stuffed if you say 'muh metabolisms'.) weight loss and diets are not a topic for /cgl/ board at all.

>>9216809
Why don't you post coords/floordinates etc? It's an image board.

>>9216823
I do, but when I do I don't announce I am HWC because if I did /cgl/ would piss themselves and throw a hissy fit over me

>>9216819
lol k

>>9216828
lol k to which, I need to know so I can insult you

>>9216827
they'd throw a hissyfit because you're probably an ita. You have to be pretty to get away with being such a cunt.

>>9216827
Do you leave clues it's you? The thought of that somehow amuses me. I don't flip my shit when you troll because some of the outrageous things you say are ridiculous and funny.

>>9216827
They'd only throw a hissyfit because you're probably an ita fuck.

>>9216831
that's exactly why I do it tho

I get away with it

hell, I get spoiled for it

>ita

every time I've posted a coord its been complimented

but /cgl/ doesn't like me so if I announced it was me they'd shitpost

feels threads are fucking cancer honeypots anyway so shitting it up isn't a big deal, but image threads where you are encouraged to post new content? I don't shit those up

>>9216832
I posted my wedding ring in a floordinate pic before because it went but that's about it

should I start?

Gulls, I screwed up, I really screwed up.
> never sold anything online before, but I've been on the other end so it can't be that hard, right?
> listed old Bodyline stuff as a lot
> didn't measure them all (ffffff), just went with the size charts on the website
> someone buys and pays immediately
> start packing/folding things and realize the online sizing can't be right...
> mfw some measurements are off by 5~6 cm

I pm-ed the buyer in the morning and still haven't heard back. Fuck.

>>9216835
"They compliment me when I post myself"

Yeah okay keep telling yourself that.

>>9216837
Yes omfg.

>>9216851
I don't post myself, I post muh floords

if you don't like me that's fine n I get it n all, you're a giant whining vagina

but people like my coords

>>9216854
I will see what I can do

>>9216856
I think I remember you saying you're a sweet lolita, right? What kind of sweet do you like HWC? I want to hear what a japanese daily lolita likes.

>>9216837
Yeees, too funny. Make it a game. Are you in Tokyo, btw?

>>9216840
I'm sure she'll understand if you just explain.

>>9216868
I have a lot of sweet themes which get the most compliments on /cgl/

star themes too

I really like ballerina themes

and I have an irrational hatred towards sax

>>9216872
right now I am, sometimes I'm in Nagano with the family

>>9216877
>and I have an irrational hatred towards sax

Why?

>>9216879
it doesn't look good with my yellow undertone at all

plus it triggers my autism because it's baby boy blue and I am a girly girl

also not the biggest fan of lavender unless it's a more pinky lavender

mint is my jam tho

>>9216495
How much do you even weigh?

>>9216868
Yeah, tell us about that Tokyo lolita housewife life, what's it like?

>>9216888
like 150? I used to weight 140. I'm 5'5, I carry my weight in my stomach and thighs, so it just looks gross.

>>9216889
so

day when husband is home
>wake up
>make breakfast
>wake husband up by blasting loud music
>he hates Taylor swift so if he's made me mad ill play that but it's usually MCR or X JAPAN because he's an edgy wannabe emo kid
>receive kisses
>sometimes get a morning dosage of vitamin d
>procrastinate doing anything of actual worth for a few hours while he writes stuff for work
>have lunch
>occasionally go shopping for stuff after lunch
>dick around with husband more when we get home
>dinner
>harass his best friend by calling him old(his best friend is gonna be 42 this year) or asking him when he's gonna get married for giggles
>cuddle with husband while watching movies
>dick around on the internet more before going to bed and possibly reviving more vitamin D

>>9216895
when husband is not home

>wake up
>salt starts pouring out of my alarm clock reminding me to shitpost on /cgl/
>skip breakfast
>shitpost on /cgl/ for hours
>take a break to get my nails done or go to a spa
>return home to shitpost more
>cry myself to sleep because my soul mate is touring the country and I can't always go with him

occasionally I'll go to his parents house when he's gone so I have family around and I'll tell his mom he's a buttface and she laughs and tells me I'm pretty

the entire day I should add I am whining to my husband over text that I miss him

>>9216901
>salt starts pouring out of my alarm clock reminding me to shitpost on /cgl/

Kek

>>9216895
How does me 'make you ill' and why do you need vitamn D?

>>9216912
vitamin d

as in dick

as in penis

as in we fuck a lot

also

makes me mad i'll*

>>9214699
>part of online community for ten years (I'm 19), been heavily involved for a little less than four years
>For years I was absolutely enamored with everyone, was sure I had found my "true companions" that I dreamed of finding as a child
>For a while now shit's been declining in activity
>Recently everyone lost faith of the people in charge as they became increasingly elitist, community is beginning to fall apart
>Realized that out of around 20 people left, I deeply care for less than five of them
>We're spread out all over the world, we're all poor by some shitty miracle, and I find it difficult to picture a future with them because they're not too well off
>Never had too many friends in person, not socially terrible but just never could find common ground with anyone, even in college now I just can't connect
>realize I might have nobody in the future to talk to, worse still that I'm going to lose the people that meant the entire world to me only a year ago
>been melancholic as fuck lately
>terrified I'm going to have a future with no friends or SO

I remember the days in Middle School where I just had nobody to talk to for what seemed like ages on end, the people I did befriend were such superficial relationships it probably adversely affects befriending people now. Shit just sucks and I don't see a way out by this point.

>>9216916
Oh haha, sorry, I'm dumb when it comes to sex slang. What does he do that makes you mad?
He's gone a lot, right? He'd have to be for you to spend so much time here, I guess.

>>9215655
Immolate yourself.

>>9216929
so there is a large stairway that has a big window in our house and the way it's built it has a little shelf that has enough space for a person to sit on and be rather comfortable

he's super tall and sometimes he will put me up there as a prank and it takes me like 30 minuets to get down because I'm chicken shit and don't want to fall and break my ankle

so in return he gets to wake up to Tay Tay telling him to SHAKE IT OFF blasting in his ear

and this year has been very bad in terms of him traveling but it's a special year for his work so I can't really tell him to not

>>9216933
also this year for white day before giving me an actual present he gave me a box full of my favorite snacks but he ate it all and shoved the wrappers back in and that also earned some Tay Tay

>>9216933
>>9216936
I know people give you shit because he's older than you but your relationship dynamic with him is pretty damn adorable. Especially seeing how you fawn over him here.

>>9216943
he's my soulmate fampai

we give eachother so much shit but in a loving way

I'd be lost without him

>>9216957
agree with other anon, i have an age gap bf and a lot of terrible mental shit to deal with so you guys sound cute.

i wish there was less of a stigma but in the end who the fuck cares

especially since these kinds of relationships aren't based on the age gap in the first place

>>9216966
honestly? if you click and it's not illegal people should have absolutely no right to give you shit

it's absolutely stupid that they get to have a say in a relationship just because they don't like the gap in age

my husband and I have A LOT in common

but because there's over a decade in difference nobody seems to take that into consideration on /cgl/ or really any westerner I talk to

people here are a bit more forgiving but there are still some people who ask about it

>>9216967
You say your husband is a wannabe emo kid, how does he dress? I always imagined he wore suits.

>>9216971
>suits

kek

senpai

no

when he's not working he wears a shit ton of black and is fond of baseball caps, sunglasses, hoodies, and tight pants

he also loves leopard prints

what a homo

>>9216973
>HWCs husband also wears Jfash

Please for the love of god post pics of you two. I don't care if you censor or the faces but I need to see this.

>>9216973
You said your husband is in the public eye and this is how he dresses? Does he go out in public like this? What does he actually do?

>>9216974
no you guys are fkn bullies

>>9216980
>yes
>yes
>I don't recall

>>9216981
>I don't recall what my rich husband does for a living

Sure you don't. Is he an entertainer? Is that why he travels?

>>9216987
>thinking I married an entertainer

fampai that sounds like I would be asking for marital trouble

>>9216967
>my husband and I have A LOT in common

Yeah, he likes young looking girls and you like all the perks of a rich husband.

>>9216991
>both like cosmology
>both like writing
>both like the same types of music
>both like excentric fashion
>both like camping
>both like everything paranormal
>both socially awkward to varying degrees, him more mildly than me tho
>both like pranks
>both like art n shit
>both like skiing
>both like fkn eachothers brains out

I could go on if you want?

>>9216993
>camping and skiing

I wouldn't have guessed that would be your type of thing HWC.