/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I'll go first, I think the global rule is completely fine. But the cgl one is dumb, it censors out the community too much especially for name and shaming people.

>when cgl kept deleting threads and posts pertaining to genso box

I'm in favor of a board split or at least bringing back /con/ and sending all the cosplayers there but it seems to be an unpopular opinion.
But on the subject of more achievable things I think we should:
>ban hwc (not sure how she keeps coming back)
>ban "sexy cosplay"/thinly veiled fap threads, they belong in /s/
>ban whoever is going around spamming "am i the only one who likes kawaiigoods/hollyteatime?"
>combine the eBay and Aliexpress threads into something like what /g/ has with their chink shit general, we could call it cheap chinese shit general or whatever

I want to be able to talk about people again. Yes I understand vendettas and spamming about stupid shit is annoying, but I hate that even mentioning someone who is a legitimate cow or has a lot of drama surrounding them gets the thread nuked. This board thrives on posts about people, both in a good and bad way. Because the convention/lolita scene does involve IRL people and not just weabooshit/waifubonding/whatever else you can post in other boards, there is a more personal level which doesn't exist anywhere else, and the fact that this has largely been discouraged is one of the leading reasons I believe that /cgl/ is largely dying down and just becoming a board for shitty generals and "where can I buy xx??" threads. The community culture is dead that that's why closet cosplays, what are you working on and other selfpost threads don't exist anymore.

Make "what can I cosplay/go for halloween as" a banneable offense. The amount onlt used to be bad around halloween and a couple of weeks before a con, now we get them all year round and they usually the same - some ugly guy posting a mirror selfie.

>>9189992
I agree. Other boards like /v/ and /ic/ and /r9k/ are free to have threads on Chris-chan, Eggman, Dobson, etc but the moment /cgl/ has a thread on a shitty cosplayer/liar/scammer it's against the rules? Pitiful.

>>9189993
I'm also down for a board split. A 'lolita and jfashion' board would be fine (as lolita is currently the biggest jfashion). To people who say we don't have enough traffic to do this -- there are slower boards on 4chan than cgl. Lolitas and cosplayers aren't relevant enough for each other anymore.
>ban hwc (not sure how she keeps coming back)
This times a million. I was relieved to see all of her shitposting from yesterday was eliminated in the general this morning. It makes the board boring and repetitive, it's not funny and there are people dumb enough to take the bait. I don't want to hear about her nonexistant husband for the millionth time, I want to read good content.
I would say lift the no singling out people rule because we need more relevant and new content, but I don't know how salty that would get.

>>9189992
it says "for the purposes of trolling" which i think should be upheld.

>>9189993
1. the board is too slow for a split. if that bothers you, generate worthy content.
2. it is not difficult to get around bans.
3. AliExpress often has specific promotions, and anyway those are active threads so it doesn't make sense to combine them. they see more activity than many other threads.

but the fap threads are definitely stupid, especially when they are NSFW. certain fetishes (feet) may not involve nudity but when their fetishistic or erotic aspect is blatantly obvious, they do not belong on this board.

To add on and expand on to what I said here >>9190007, I think talking about people is essential. We are a community, and we need a sense of community to stay together and relevant. BTB is dead, no one uses PULL or lolcow anymore, maybe we could have one thread where talking about people is contained to? Any doxxing or whatnot can be banned, but talking about people and things they've done that affect our community should be allowed. The board-specific ban is dumb.

>>9190004
Alternatively: around Halloween, make a Halloween thread and sticky it (like we did last year) and make posting normie Halloween shit outside of it a bannable offense

>>9190002
>The community culture is dead that that's why closet cosplays, what are you working on and other selfpost threads don't exist anymore.
that has nothing to do with not being able to discuss lolcows and everything to do with people coming to /cgl/ expecting that this is the place they can act like a raging bitch and get away with it.

selfposts have died down because of the toxic culture drama-mongers fostered.

>>9190010
Boards like /y/ and /cm/ and slower and they have their own boards, I don't think that's a valid reason not to split

>>9190010
>1. the board is too slow for a split. if that bothers you, generate worthy content.
There are boards that are way slower than cgl, and are way slower than it would be if we split.

>>9190016
Those are kept because the boards where to content would move (mostly a, co and v) would flip their shit if people posted more homos.

>>9190016
using a SFW and NSFW board is a bad comparison, fujofriend

>>9190017
the common con culture tends to still be a unifying factor. there are many cosplayers who do not care about jfash and vice versa, but the 2016 poll showed that most people were into both. the "conlita" isn't just a stereotype, it's a major aspect of lolita culture in the West. (and by extension most other jfashions)

>>9190023
also because /c/, /u/, and /h/ exist

>>9190023
And yet cosplay and lolita/jfashion (two topics that are 99% unrelated) have to share a board? The board examples you're giving are more related than cosplay and lolita. Sure there are some people who might do both, but the two dont /relate/

>>9190028
The point is that the topics, though vagely related, coexist just fine. /co/ for example has people sperging over gay content EVERY time.

>>9190033
/cm/ was created because of /c/, not /co/, and /y/ because of /h/, not /co/.

your examples are just kind of bad fampai

No board split. /cgl/is already a slow board so splitting it would result in two boards moving at the pace of a snail. As much as I would like to not be associated with cosplayers.
Also we need to permaban obnoxious people trying too hard to be le ebin troll (looking at you HWC) and mods need to relax about the whole "not singling out" rule. We need to warn people about scammers and such, i think that in these cases we should be allowed to give names .

>>9190010
>it says "for the purposes of trolling" which i think should be upheld.

but it never is though, thats the problem. Mods often delete things at the simplest mention of someone. I'm honest to god surprised our current CoF hasnt been nuked with all the talk of Kate. Before when she was most active with all her drama, you sneezed the word Kate around here and the thread was nuked, posts deleted, or you were banned.

>>9190011
This exactly. I wish getoffegl,PULL and BTB were still good and relevant like before. Sigh.
Lolcow is still active though but it's terrible and it's more than often just some bitching about the cow's physical appearance and some pro anas whining and anyone disagreeing is obviously an ugly fatty.

plz allow sexy cosplay pictures

it isnt actually against the rules, but hotpockets-kun gets TRIGGERED

so what I'm really saying is the janitors are a bigger problem than the actual rules

>>9190035
I think the boards should be split. I couldn't care less about lolita and would love a strictly cosplay specific board. Would probably help with the annoying trolls on both fronts.

>>9190040
Since the old admin banned a bunch of people and left it hasnt been the same, I dont even go anymore

>>9190033
When lolita's have a discussion in their country's thread cosplayers bitch about it

>>9189992
I, for one, am glad that the board isn't 70% jelly seagulls/thirsty males/low profile trolls yapping about Jnigs or whoever TnA is popular for now.

>>9190002
Maybe allowing in-thread discussion about individuals, but not threads created solely about them?

>>9189993
Mildly positive opinion on splitting the boards, and I'd be cool w/ giving it a try and see what happens. I think it'd mostly be to the benefit of legitimate streetfashion/lifestyle lolitas, though. There's still a fair bit of overlap, enough to make it a not obvious choice. I see people suggest a jfash board, but seeing as a fair bit of fashion that's either dead in Japan or wasn't big there to begin with (Strega comes to mind), maybe altfashion would be more interesting? It would also benefit the "fashion not a costume!!" lolis greatly, give them some cred.

Also down for merging taobao/ali into one. Ebay doesn't really belong with those though, imho.

>>9190004
This to some extent. In relation to this:

Making a halloween pin in September.

>>9190011
Also a good suggestion. We already have stuff like creeper threads and whatnot, but giving it a more explicit ok aside from legitimate trolling, threats or liebel is fine by me.

>>9190045
Elaborate on trolls?

>>9190130
> altfashion
> jfash gets drowned by western alt fashion
> lolitas end up asking for another split

Introduce a new board, /con/ - cosplay and conventions
Make this board /eafa/ - east Asian street fashion
>inb4 neither board would be fast enough to warrant a split
We have a papercraft and origami board that still has posts up from two months ago, so clearly no one cares about no-slow-boards-allowed

Sure I can think it would survive a split, but honestly I prefer this. I'd rather have one faster board then two slower ones.

What will the split even solve? Just because you don't like dem lolita or cosplay threads it mus split?

>>9190144
lolitas and cosplayers have a pretty long history of generally not getting along, anon
might it not be easier to keep them separated
also with a split, the cosplay board would likely be cosplay and conventions, then we would finally have a convention board too

>>9190130
Like others mentioned, HWC and the people that make a billion obvious bait threads (which have been cropping up a lot lately). I also agree about the 'lolita isn't a costume' bit. It really isn't and it shouldn't be lumped in with cosplay.

I think a split is a good idea, even though I'm into cosplay and jfashion. The two aren't related, and when you go into general threads, it's usually discussion about only jfashion or only cosplay.
Example: pet peeves thread would be great for cosplay but it got taken over by Lolita discussion.
Like I said, I'm active in both communities, but they're almost completely unrelated to each other except for the fact they both originate from the same place.

>>9190146
I've been here for quite a few years but I never felt like it's lolitas vs cosplayers all that much.

But then again I never cared about a split anyway so I'm biased.

>>9190037
I feel like this the mods have gotten better at this lately though, compared to a year or two ago when any mention of a drama cosplayer would result in instant nuke. As long as the janitors make more of an effort to be consistent, the rule seems fine as is - I'll see threads with namedropping go untouched but then get pruned when the shittalking goes to far, but I've seen scam or call out threads get instantly deleted.

>>9190152
Well, it's probably more like half and half
Probably a lot of the annoyance comes from shit like >>9190149 said, where you see "ooo, a good feels thread?" and you post in it, then you have a bunch of lolitas saying, "No one gives a shit about your worbla," or a bunch of cosplayers going, "No one gives a shit about your toddler dresses"
I feel like it's probably only become an issue at all in more recent years when both hobbies have become bigger and more accessible.

I'd like to see more effort to curb thirsty men here to fap and obvious troll /r9k/ threads. It's kind of ridiculous when threads like "post feet" and "are you a cosplay exhibitionist?" are allowed to stick around, and at this point it feels like there's a significant amount of people on this board who are not part of the community.

>>9190148
HWC would just move to the jfashion side since she doesn't seem to care about cosplay and if you slow it down even more with a split the entire board for jfash would just be her shitposting.

Everyone says mods need to ban her but mods HAVE. This isn't their fault, she uses proxies.

>>9190149
This. I would like certain threads to be strictly cosplay. I don't really care about lolita feels or lolita pet peeves. They don't relate usually and the two really don't get along that well, clearly.

>>9190159
Well, someone has to take the L

>>9190162
You know what would solve the HWC problem? If people didn't respond to obvious b8 and didn't bring her up constantly. In this thread I get why she's mentioned but people will instantly accuse posts that they don't like of being her and when it's not her it ends up drawing her out to shitpost more.

Can we stop? Seriously, she's said it herself that the reason she stays around is because we keep bringing her up.

>>9190165
Make knowingly responding to her have a range ban, that way it's not quite as easy as just resetting your IP. (mods please do this it will stop so much)

>>9190165
What keeps happening though is new people ask who she is and then threads get completely derailed.

>>9190168
Oh I like this idea a lot

>>9190170
So warn against not responding to obvious shitposting in the sticky, ban people for mentioning her, and delete the posts of newfags asking about her. It's simple. We don't bring her up or respond to her she gets bored and moves on. The only reason this isn't working yet is because people don't want to take responsibility to not engage her.

>>9190171
If you look at some of the responses she gets it has to be some of the same people coming back and responding to her, especially in the menhera threads.

>>9190174
I agree. There should be more action taken against the ones like her that actively shitpost.

>>9190170
This too. This is a really good idea.

>>9190178
Oops, meant >>9190168

>>9190154

I think its just too unreliable to have them try to up hold a standard. I really just think the cgl specific name rule should be banished

Lolita and cosplay are both about "dressing up" so it make sense to have them both here. Cosplayers and lolitas usually go to the same conventions too. With how slow this board is, I really don't see much reason to split it.
If this board were more popular, I'd agree with a split, but until then, meh.

I think furry posts should be allowed here since that is considered cosplay. Right now it is a gray area, but it would be nice if it were officially allowed. More talent, money, and creativity goes into fursuits than most other cosplays.

>>9190193
If we allow furry posts our entire board will be that sooner or later.

>>9189984
These threads often get deleted, so get ready for that and realize that stuff like this is required to go on /qa/ -- you're allowed to link to a cgl thread on /qa/ in like lolita general or something.

>>9190197
this, furryism is an internet cancer

>>9190197
You'd have 2 furry topics at one time at most. LARP is very different than the general feel of this board since it is western cosplay, but we aren't overrun with that. I feel it would be the same with furry. As long as it is kept specifically to furry cosplay and not artwork or whatever.

>>9190015
This. I'd love to be able to self post coords with my face properly covered but all the no fun allowed bitches make sure to show up and ruin everything with derailing bullshit, because how far easy one get any kind of attention outside of being anon.

Remember when we were okay with tripfags?
And we can't use LiveJournal and Facebook sucks. But nope /cgl/ can't be al alternative cause muh anonymity and dire need to adhere to fucking meme culture so instead of actual discussion we can just see the same 10 responses for 300 replies in a CoF thread.

Can't wait for the
>sorry you got posted

Cosplayers, lolitas and Jfash share a lot though
>Convention specific threads
>Resin and crafting
>Buy/sell/trade
>Aliexpress/Ebay/Taobao
>Wigs
>Makeup
>Instagram and social media
>Creeper and cringe experiences

Also there's plenty of people that wear both, they aren't mutually exclusive, or just like looking at cute weeb things. I understand lolita is not a costume, but there is plenty of overlap in the making, buying and dealing with people.

There are definitely more lolita and general beauty threads and less cosplay threads these days. But I don't mind because it's one of the few "female friendly" boards and we definitely have our own culture and terms like the others.

Can we bring back /fit/ Fridays though? My argument here would be that if Japanese cosplay magazines have workout sections, then it's definitely something that is cosplay related.

>>9190208
You must not know furfags if you think that shit wouldn't spread.

>>9190197
We had a perfectly good furry thread about a month ago that didn't get derailed and didn't overflow into the rest of the board. Furries aren't the problem, it's the people bitching about them.

>>9190215
If that many people are complaining about something wouldn't they take the hint that it's not welcome? Take it to /b/.

I vote for a split too. Why doesn't someone make a strawpoll to see for sure?

>>9190215
>Furries aren't the problem, it's the people bitching about them.
Right on it.

Literally the only problems we had with that last thread were people going to the thread to complain. The only people making it a problem were the people saying it is a problem.

>>9190212
> >>9190215

>>9190218
ok http://strawpoll.de/2brcds7

Remove the rule about not talking about people, especially scammers. It's not reasonable that scammer discussion immediately gets nuked.

Instant ban for people making fap threads.

Ban HWC.

Maybe allow a /fit/ thread? /fit/ itself is a pretty toxic place for females.

>>9190222
>Ban HWC

We've been over this. She uses proxies and it's useless to try and ban her.

>>9190174
>>9190168
>>9190165
Please read these.

>>9190035
I wish people would learn that ban evading isn't difficult nor is it actually possible to get rid of her.
Not only that but if you split the board and it does move slower-- you're gonna get an influx of trolling like with /x/

when most people think of cosplay, they think of sexy cosplay

its retarded trying to ban sexy cosplay from the cosplay board when thats what most people see cosplay as

dont like it? dont read the threads

>>9190157

all of those threads get deleted so what are you talking about

>>9190040
We still get that kind of trolling here. Literally anyone who has a few extra lbs or says they fit a 70cm inch waist will be called fay into oblivion until a thread is fully derailed.
I know that topic can be related to fashion but anons who bring that up are usually trying to deter from any on topic discussion.

>>9189993
i can see sexy cosplay having some leeway if its not borderline nudity. i mostly say this cause hentai cosplays are a thing and there are some well done ones no one would usually see, plus its nice to have some variation.

>>9190230
Anon, there's a reason those people get called fat.

>>9190233
Yes, it's called trolls.

>>9190199
Did you not even see the image anon?

>>9190209
*how dare anyone
Holy shit autocorrect

>>9190230
Part of it is HWC though since she thinks anyone who isnt a skeleton is obese. I understand we still get it often, but its gotten worse imo since HWC and the influx of shitposting

>>9190236
Says that thread got deleted lol

>>9190233
So? Why do people need to post the most obvious shit here?
So someone is fucking fat, like everyone here can't tell so you gotta mention it? What does that do aside from fucking waste replies and derail threads?

>>9190242
Honestly we gotta start treating this character as a troll, and exactly that. A made up person. Don't refer to hwc as she or that it's an actual person thinking and has opinions. It's a made up bit and the person writing the character just says the same in character shit.

>>9190251
The replies defending someone who is actually fat as not fat also are guilty of derailing. The blame is on everyone in that situation, not just the original person calling them fat.

>>9190254
That just falls under "hey can not reply to bait"
Which will never stop happening btw.

>>9190257
>which will never stop happening

Because the consequences aren't hard enough. If it's obvious it's HWC and someone responds they need to be met with a regional ban.

>>9190263
You can get out of those too. The troll in question does it all the fucking time.
Do you actually have a consequence greater than just banning people in different ways, cause that shit doesn't work.

>>9190268
What would you suggest? People here are too dumb to stop responding to her so if not banning anyone what would be done?

>>9190271
Let's go oldschool and raid "her"
Fuck, you know it's not even a woman. And you know that other anon who had "info" on "her" is just the same person who conveniently lacks proof.
Send fucking glitter bombs and 30 pizzas to this assholes house. Bet they knock it the fuck off then.

>>9190136
>dealwithit

If lolita really is a fashion and not a costume like y'all keep insisting, you'll have more in common with goths and ravers than you do with us.
Lolitas need to stop being so elitistic about their super speshul fashion.

>>9190193
Fursuiting needs to be officially OK'd. Not general furry anything, but construction and patterning/designing for suiting. Most fursuit threads have been allowed to stay up what I've seen, but there's always people crying yiff in hell and derailing the threads.
What >>9190215 said, essentially.

>>9190263
Problem is Poe's law. I ran into HWC a few threads ago but had no idea who she was because 1) I don't chill in lolita exclusive threads and 2) with how people here act, trolls really aren't always that obvious. You can't ban that shit.
Maybe make posts that amount to nothing more than "this person is fat and that is disgusting" count as troll posts and make them reportable.

>>9190273
You're honestly suggesting to doxx someone over shitposting?

>>9190273
You might as well "raid" everyone else who continues to respond to her while knowing it's her too, they're just as big of a problem as she is.

>>9190235
its not trolling if its in a critiquing manner. if /ic/ and /fa/ allow blunt/harsh criticism /cgl/ should too. its more or less trolling only when it starts to be somewhat like a vendetta and never ends, and by that i mean making countless threads, trying to pull massive attention towards, and/or continuously shitposting the person directly outside of the board/website.
cringe threads and lolcow threads have a point in giving self awareness. as long as we don't actively try to destroy their life irl its fine.
>>9190228
NEETS from /fit/ /soc/ /r9k/ and /jp/ think of sexy cosplay first when it comes to not entirely normies/normalfags. as well as normal people with no con experience think thats all cons are thanks to tv and papers(or at least its that way in the us). only other group are pure narcissistic neckbeards with truly unobtainable standards.

>>9190273
Anon, this isn't /b/ or lolcow. I think trying to ruin someone's life over anonymous shitposting they do over the Internet is pretty fucked up. She is annoying but she hasn't actually done anything malicious to any individual to warrant it. She wouldn't be a problem if people didn't respond to her, and doxing someone over something that isn't entirely on them is pretty terrible.

There's a reason vendettas and requests for doxing is a bannable offense here.

>>9190281
>its not trolling if its in a critiquing manner.

Absolutely nothing is gained from telling an anon they're fat if they're not asking for advice about, and don't tell me you don't think shit like

> angry fattie detected
> get the harpoons

or anons trying to hijack the plus size thread isn't trolling.

>>9190211
This nigga gets it

>>9190157
>significant amount of people on this board who are not part of the community.
well, your right but /cgl/ can be seasonal for a majority of crossboarders. you have to remember that a lot of anons go to cons wanting to talk about them in 4chan rather than somewhere else and may have only interest in portions of /cgl/ for when that con is relevant to them.
>"post feet" and "are you a cosplay exhibitionist?"
thats shit doesn't fit to this board unless the latter there is related to some drama or is satire.
regular fap threads are a bit harder to debate.

>>9190274
As much as I hate furries, it's true that fursuiting/mascot suits are forms of costume making and should be allowed on this board, unless hiro wants to make a /fur/ board and contain it there

>>9190289
ok i didn't really know you were talking about plus sized threads. in those cases thats shit posting. something can be gained at times from calling people out for throwing a fit here though and that goes for all types of threads.

>>9190215
Yeah, I honestly haven't seen any obnoxious furries here. That furry thread was primarily about craftsmanship and suit building which is perfectly fine on /cgl/.

>>9190287
>sending pizzas and glitter bombs is malicious
Sure ok. This person is pretty relentless. I don't think there is a way to put a stop to what they're doing. They get banned all the time and newfags won't ever stop responding to bait.
You can ban everyone but that doesn't stop it from happening. Pretty sure I escaped a region ban myself once. It doesn't work, it's not actually a consequence.

Here is something that actually works. Posting content. I post content to combat trolling in menhera threads and so do others now because the more on topic stuff you post, the less replies the troll will get.
It'd seriously help if the janitors or mods changed some of the wording in the sticky and mentioned you know, not responding to bait and obvious well known trolls.


Instead it's just newbs wanting to know why people are calling someone hwc and why are they wrong for engaging the same discussion for the millionth time.

>>9190298
No, the call out method doesn't work which is why we have the same fucking debates on repeat.
Stating the obvious doesn't do anything for anyone unless you actually believe that the fatties getting posted here don't know or aren't aware of how fat they are and that you enlightening them will make them see the weight loss light. It's usually doesn't.

>>9190242
so from what i can tell HWC is like /o/s Alphonse and /m/s clawshrimpy/vvvrager.
i've only been off the board for a month.
this >>9190165 worked on vvvrager and /o/ attempted on alphonse with no luck.
pray that it works and they don't start spamming the board with disgusting porn like with alphonse. or that they disappear from being memed to death like clawshrimpy.
who knows.

>>9190314
i mean enlightening to better suited clothes.

>>9190317
I rarely see that in threads. It's usually just "hey lose a few".
Did you see the stupid voldie threads? You think she's gonna wear different stuff now cause two threads were deleted on her behalf?

You think Kate is gonna stop doing her make up that way cause you morons throw fits over it?

The call out method doesn't work.

>>9190316
Hwc is a memer tho

>>9190297

I kind of agree with you unfortunately. The thread we had was surprisingly civil and interesting. It was neat to see talk about western vs eastern fursuits. I think these threads could also be very useful to cosplayers wanting to do a mascot suit like Undertale characters or something

>>9190313
>finding out where someone lives and posting it on the Internet when there are people who have said they want this person to die isn't malicious

There are people who genuinely hate her. She's annoying as fuck but when there are people who would want to hurt her physically for shitposting you can't say doxing her is alright. She hasn't singled out any one person to hurt them, she just collectively shitposts to be annoying. I agree with you on posting content, I just think doxing her over what she's done is way too extreme.

>>9189992
Not misusing the term vendetta would be a good start, I'm tired of seeing jannies delete posts and people getting banned just because they critique a coord of someone that is popular or controversial. We should be able to discuss the subjects of this board (cosplay and lolita) without fear of getting banned.

Also, why do shitposts and cosplay fap threads stay up so long, while feels threads get tons of on topic posts deleted?

We don't really need new rules, just for people to understand and enforce the current rules properly

>>9190332
Eh, I'm pretty sure she's the one who was posting that one girl asking for concrit that took concrit like a champ but thanks to shitposting expert, we have to see the same bad coord over and over. She's done it to other people too. I can't prove it's her, but if we had some kind of evidence, you know?

We should start using flags or unique identifiers similar to other chan boards. We'd still be anon, but then you'd always know who is doing dumb shit. We'd be able to track "her" better. Yes names would change based on ip, but then we could see when "she" does it and how often "she" is evading. Also it'd be easier to report the right person instead of everyone getting called hwc.

>>9190346
But she didn't post anything about that girl the girl didn't post herself. She just used her picture as a stupid meme to upset people. It didn't even show the girls face. That isn't the same as what is being suggested, finding out where she lives and posting it everywhere for the world to see. You might as well doxx anyone who saves a picture from /cgl/ and reposts it if you think it's that bad.

If you force names for anyone it kind of takes away the whole point of 4chan anon. I get that she is annoying but once again, you are suggesting we make her susceptible to someone physically hurting her because of shitposting. Not once has she posted someone's name, just been annoying.

>>9190346
You do know she's a girl who got upset at people backstabbing and that's why she does this right? You keep posting as if it's a guy but if you look back at the beginning of it there's no doubt it's a girl.

>>9190352
Cause no one ever lies on here, right?

>>9190350
I have a theory that picture was actually hwc, hence the lack of face and consistent posting with guaranteed replies.

Also I never said to fully doxx her and post her info. You sound awfully scared for someone who is making up an online persona. I'd say there is a 90% chance that person isn't even female. And they aren't actually in japan.
I'm just saying someone should get "her" info and give "her" a good warning. Again, sending someone pizza isn't exactly malicious, it's just a waste of everyone's time which is exactly what "she" does all the time.

Again, not saying to fully doxx or cause harm to what is probably a chubby neckbeard neet.

And pol uses flags which works and other chan boards use unique identifiers with no problems regarding still being anonymous. They change based on ip usually hence being easier to track someone's trolling and those who respond to it.

And gonna go ahead and say that mods should add some thing to the sticky about it as it does impact the board quite a bit.

>>9190377
The original incident was her throwing an absolute bitchfit when people pointed out its normal for girls to vent to other girls about their friends. If you go back and read it it's really obvious she's a girl who had a friend talk about her behind her back. I know you've convinced yourself she isn't a she but if you had been there for the original meltdown she had and then the few following ones you wouldn't have a doubt in your mind she's an autistic bitch.

>>9190385
I was only there for when she started shit posting in fairy kei threads and I saw the incidence explained several times after it happened in the original embarrassing friend thread. It's very possible it's not even the same person posting at this point.

People need to consider every possible aspect of this instead of just taking someone's word for it.

>>9190390
I don't think it's the same person, but the original person was most definitely a girl who was upset about someone backstabbing her.

>>9190383
If you're actually right and that is HWC in the picture it probably isn't her posting it but whoever has taken over shitposting as her.

Think about it, the posting styles are entirely different, the way she shitposts is entirely different. It's probably no longer the girl who complained in the friend thread.

>>9190392
Well I'm only discussing the person who shit posts now -- not the original person that may or may not have posted since the original incidents.

>come into the thread hoping to see good suggestions
>most of the thread is just people arguing about HWC

You people are obsessed with her.

>>9190403
Considering most of this board is female, the poster seems to have extensive knowledge on Lolita, and is catty in a specifically female way it's pretty safe to say it's a girl.

>>9190403
The way they post and know exactly what will upset girls means they are probably a girl.

>>9190398
I mean, for awhile she did the meta meme thing and I'm pretty sure she admitted to that being her and that part of her persona is finding meta to be ita.

>>9190407
More like people are obsessed with the gender of a shit poster.
Anything to detract from actually stopping it right?

HWC at this point is just a bogeyman and used as an escape for arguements. Multiple people have most likely "trolled" as her.

"Oh HWC is just shitposting again"
"you'll summon her"

If anything should be done is banning the mentioning of her so people can shut the fuck up.

>>9190415
I think it's hilarious they get so mad with her and yet they don't look at what they are doing. She's nowhere in this thread and yet it's entirely about her.

>>9190417
Fucking THANK YOU. People act like it's always her fault and accuse people who aren't actually her of being her and the cycle starts all over again.

>>9190228
CGL is not here to be your fap material. Don't like it? Don't go here.

>all of those threads get deleted so what are you talking about
No? I distinctly remember one of the "post feet" threads reaching 200 images before it stopped being bumped or eventually got deleted. The modship is very hit or miss in this regard.

>>9190417
I'm all for this. But ban the shitposter too. Idgaf who it is.

And honestly, since this board is dedicated to talking about people, unique identifiers might be the best option to control how out of control things could get. That way you know who is doing what but your still anon.

Works for yikyak.

>>9190346
I also support this idea of flags. Nothing to be lossed from it in my opinion. Also it would make it so much easier to follow through on progress threads and what not.
I would like to hear why we don't do that already

>>9190427
>>9190426
Because it takes away the spirit of an anonymous image board, where the focus is on the quality of a post and not who's posting it.

I just want good moderators. These fucks keep going into threads, shittying them up, and getting either the whole thread deleted or posts on topic removed, or even the thread deleted and every thread after that just removed because it has the same name [like feels threads].

>>9190427
lost* fml

>>9190427
This, it'd help with all sorts of things and cut down on shit posting. Pol might have stupid opinions but they have no trouble being on topic unlike this shit hole where people shout down good ideas so they can continue shitposting.

Unless someone has a good reason beyond muh anonymity.

>>9190431
No it doesn't you're still anon. It does carry from board to board. And all it does it make sure your not posing as 3 different people, I'm for that loss of anonymity.

>>9190431
Explain how it's not working for other boards.

>>9190438
Because it goes against the entire purpose this website was originally founded upon. If you say that's not a good reason you're probably a troll.0

>>9190444
>troll.0
You seem to fail at explaining why other boards on this site have trouble with it. They don't.
Are you trying to say people posting on pol aren't anons?

>>9190445
I'm saying it takes away from the original point. Just because /cgl/ has a problem with not responding to one troll doesn't mean we have to detract from the original sprit of an anonymous image board. And yes, it does take away from it, it gives identification however so small. /pol/ literally has IDS, that's not anonymous.

>>9190438
But that's the fun of it, isn't it?

Basically what >>9190333 and >>9190433 said. I'm tired of threads been shit up and actually worthwhile content being deleted.

>>9190446
I'm okay with being less anon and you aren't. Seems suspicious.

>>9190448
No, I'm tired of seeing the fat argument 1000x a week.

>>9190454
Suspicious? Why is it suspicious to want the board I've been on for years to remain anonymous? Are you that paranoid that you think I'm /cgl/'s boogieman because I think this board should remain on the same format as the vast majority of the website?

>>9190438
>Unless someone has a good reason beyond muh anonymity.
how is that not a good enough reason?

it's bad enough everythig is auto-archived through third parties. forcing trips on everyone would be ridiculous.

>>9190457
Don't think pol is the only board doing that and change doesn't hurt. 4chan is changing a lot. Maybe this is for the best.

I think you're one of the many shitposters that just wants to shitpost. There are people trying to shitpost in this very thread.
Moot isn't here anymore and what this board started out as is a lot different from what it is now.
Get with it.

>>9190462
The people who want anonymity taken away are probably new.

>>9190454
>I'm okay with being less anon and you aren't. Seems suspicious.
what are you, some kind of fascist?

>>9190464
I've argued against HWC and the people responding to her this ENTIRE thread. Your paranoia that I'm one of them doesn't validate taking away anonymity on an anonymous image board.

>muh boogieman

>>9190465
or baiting

regardless of whether they mean it or not, or whether they are new or not, it's a dumb idea that only gets used on containment boards.

>>9190465
I'm fine with the flag system and I've been posting here on the regular since 2012? And lurked before that. I'm not new. I just want to have a fucking discussion without trolls coming in and putting everyone off topic.

>>9190466
She's paranoid and probably one of those people who accuse everyone of being HWC(even accused me of that.)

>>9190469
You still sound pretty outdated.

>>9190474
isn't it exciting when people reply to you

>>9190471
How about you stop responding to trolls and bringing them up, and simply warn anyone who does and report the trolls? It's really not that hard and you're just wanting forced identification because you're too lazy to actually help stop shitposting while maintaining the integrity of the site.

>>9190474
So you want 4chan to become another social media site? Are you serious?

We need more content. More original content preferably. A creative interest board will always lag if people aren't posting creatively.

>>9190475
inb4 she accuses you of being HWC.

IDs are easy to get around, and they really do ruin the purpose of the site. /pol/ was fucked pretty bad for months before they forced IDs on them. It's usually considered a trash board anyways.

If they give us IDs but remove the "vendetta" rule and allow us to talk about people and drama back, I'd be willing to accept them.

>>9190476
Go ahead and tell me the difference between a message board and a social media site.
Explain how something like yikyak works with anonymity and works as a message board system and social networking program.

>>9190476
But I don't? A majority of my time here is spent lurking in the evenings before bed, I only post when I think I can add something of value to the discussion or posting progress to the progress thread.
It's just annoying to start reading a really good thread only for it to be derailed from tangent fairies or trolls. I'm typically too late to the party to do anything because of this. Further more, why should everyone have the burden of keeping their peers in line.

>>9190481
This is what I want. Keep people from going super far, but allow us to go there in the first place.

>>9190481
>If they give us IDs but remove the "vendetta" rule and allow us to talk about people and drama back, I'd be willing to accept them.
those two combined would kill the /cgl/ experience for me. last thing i need is some dramamonger scouring my ID in the archives for "proof" of whatever half-baked theory they conjured up.

i never knew what "receipts" were until people from tumblr explained it. those same people would be all over this fucking shit like flies. every nosy busybody's wet dream, right there.

>>9190481
Same. I'd be okay with that.
Moot isn't here to enforce the anon anymore and I doubt hiroshima gives a rats ass. He seems extremely in board with changing all sorts of things about the site.

I think any thread about one cosplayer should be immediately deleted. Our ones implying sexiest anything. This isn't/s/. Get your fap material out of here.

>>9190486
>the man known for the shadiest shit possible like exploiting his sites contributors to datamining and letting protection expire is on board for taking away anonymity


Not surprised

>mostly female board
>"Let us harass people, oh and make everyone wear a nametag!"

figures

>>9190485
Aren't IDs only supposed to be for the current thread only, not board-wide? Post in one thread with one ID and you'd have another in another one?

That would stop that.

>>9190485
People already do this, hell even I dig shit out of the archives FOR anons that have nothing attached to them but a specific post.

>>9190010
>it says "for the purposes of trolling" which i think should be upheld.

Do you even go on 4chan? This whole fucking forum is alive because of trolls, shut the fuck up fag. Look at /pol/ their meme magic has spread to the entire world now.

I do think people like "hwc" and shit that are obsessively trolling are ridiculous and should be banned or at least be forced to use trips. A little trolling here or there doesn't hurt anyone though. Seriously though, why can people talk about chris-chan and shit and we can't talk shit?

>>9190489
Not like you can do anything about it aside from not using the site. Why are you here of you don't like it.

>>9190493
jesus

why the fuck does it even occur to you to do that?

>>9190493

Imagine that made easier, do you not realize how this is a bad thing? With people like paranoia-chan who come up with these crazy boogeyman theories anyone who ever posted something someone didn't like has an entire archive of what they've said available to be used against them.

>>9190495
Because the board is mostly female and females can't handle the drama! I don't know why CGL has to be the only board with a dumb rule like this.

>>9190497
Because it serves as proof when people want to argue about things.

>>9190498
Like the other anon said, it's not board wide.

>>9190492
this is exactly how they work, I really don't understand why people think they're like trip ids

>>9190500
>being this obsessed with what people on the internet say

People like you are exactly why I'm afraid to have anonymity taken away.

>>9190492
why not enjoy the ambiguity?

>>9190503
Also it would cut the accusations of same fagging down which would be a godsend.

>>9190504
Better stop using this site then. People can still figure out who you are even if you're anon.

>>9190503
So what's to stop someone from changing their IP and getting a different ID?

>>9190509
Jesus Christ you sound absolutely insane.

>>9190512
You can tell when someone does that, it makes it more obvious.
420chan is great btw. Everyone is anon and nobody gets hurt.

>>9190512
Nothing, if someone wanted to they could change IDs in the thread. Just most people are too lazy to do that I suppose.

>>9190499
>Because the board is mostly female and females can't handle the drama!
you are retarded if you think it's not mostly women who miss the days of "drama" on /cgl/.

>I don't know why CGL has to be the only board with a dumb rule like this.
same reason GG discussion is prohibited board-wide. they can't be trusted not to doxx and harass people, and moot didn't want to be liable for that shit.

>>9190504
this.

>>9190508
just ignore those people, their accusations are worthless.

>>9190512
nothing, i've done it just to have more than 5 threads active at a time on a pretty consistent (constant up until a month ago) basis.

>>9190515
Bet you think it's safe to use the b/s/t cause you're anon.
Stop being so naive about using this site.

>>9190516
>you can tell when someone does that

Lol, right. Paranoia-chan you're so silly.

>>9190516
>You can tell when someone does that, it makes it more obvious.
take your meds, paranoia-chan

>>9190519
Your obsessiveness with people is why you sound insane. I don't even use the BST.

>>9190521
>>9190522
Cool meme brah

Thanks for shitting up the thread, didn't see that one coming at all

>>9190526
>Thinking these posts are the same person

Paranoia-chan pls.

>>9190525
Can you discuss the topic at hand instead of living in fear?

>>9190518
Yeah I do ignore them. I just find the constant accusations shitting up a thread annoying.

>>9190530
You're the one who keeps talking about how your leet haxor skills can find any anon.

>>9190529
>thinking those posts AREN'T the same person
illuminati confirmed

>>9190526
well don't propose stupid shit like IDs.

>>9190531
i find the CoF thread annoying but i can just scroll past it. actually surprised that general still exists, since the FB group is technically private.

>>9190535
I didn't know I temporarily lost consciousness and posted it from a separate device a second time, thanks for informing me!

>>9190533
I didn't say I could. I'm saying it's possible -- I've seen people outed here from almost no info. I see people trying to out anons too.

I don't have any haxx0r skills and don't claim to. Anyone can look in the archive, it exists for a reason.

>>9190536
you're welcome

t. your headmate

>>9190537
Anon you said you spend ages trying to dig up a specific post on an anonymous image board to find one anon. You're fucking insane, take your meds and stop posting.

>>9190193
I agree. Fursuits and anthropomorphic characters are definitely costuming and as long as only talking about construction or costuming is allowed I don't see an issue. We have been low key talking about it in various threads for a while now especially the undertale threads.

>mods deleting my posts and yet keeping the posts from the freak who spends ages trying to hunt down anons up

why?

>>9190542
>We have been low key talking about it in various threads for a while now especially the undertale threads.
this is generally the best way to get around unfair rules: don't draw attention to the fact that you are breaking them.

>>9190546
I was just wondering the same thing.

>>9190546
it looks like posts from different people have been deleted, including the person you say was not being deleted, so don't take it personally.

>>9190546
Because that's not what's actually happening.

>>9190548
Must be because they seem to be singling someone out, hence mentioning nicknames and stuff. It happened up in the thread too, but about a different subject.

>>9190554
This person said they track anons down just to find one post and it's not okay to question their sanity?

>>9190556
You sound pretty paranoid dude.

>>9190556
>the post you quoted is already deleted

just chill a bit and let the janitor finish gull

the thread itself is still up, so that's a good sign.

>>9190559
How is it paranoid to question someone who admitted they spend large amounts of time trying to find people's specifics posts on an anonymous image board?

>>9190561
>large amounts of time
It doesn't take that long to navigate the archive holy shit.
Go ahead and tell me what the archive is for exactly? It's a resource for all kinds of things including proving who is shit posting and who isn't.

>>9190565
the archive was a mistake

>>9190565
They specifically said they took time to dig up a single anons post, and then followed up by saying nobody is anonymous and that they could find anyone just by one post. Tell me how that doesn't sound crazy. Yes they can but why would they even think to do that? That's a mental illness.

>>9190569
Well message their mods then, good luck. I doubt it's going away.

>>9190570
>Yes they can but why would they
Idk anon, why have I been posted to /ck/ for no reson? I don't know why people do things.
I've never outed anyone either. Fucking chill.

>>9190547
That's true and I don't expect it to change but it would be nice to not have to worry about deletion and have it be an official rule.

So I guess the mods have spoken and will keep dealing with the boards situation by just deleting.

>>9190607
I hope so. It's the wiser call.

>>9190607
To be fair, this topic was doing really nice up until about 2 hours ago. Kinda went downhill past few replies.

>>9190495
>>9190499
I'm a girl and I agree. everyone here trolls sometimes (you're lying if you say you haven't). That's kind of what 4chan is about. I definitely think it's a dumb idea to force IDs. It's anonymous for a reason. You want to use a trip then go ahead but you can't make that a rule.

>>9190499
>females can't handle the drama!
most of the gulls who want drama back are female. lurk more, walnut.

>I don't know why CGL has to be the only board with a dumb rule like this.
it isn't. i haven't visited in a while, but /tv/ had to ban discussion of specific actors/actresses, for example. here, the rule is in place because of obsessive stalking, not trolling. /cgl/ can't be trusted not to turn Single White Female on random "efame" figures.

>>9190607
Honestly I think it's the best way to go about it. Nothing kills a thread as much as two people arguing vehemently about semantics.

>>9190626
If that's what 4chan is for why is it against the rules? How come people get deleted for it?

>>9190631
This. /tv/ is a lot better than it used to be too.

>>9190631
This is the second time someone quoted my post and misunderstood my sarcasm. Really is hard to convey in text.

>>9190634
it's not what 4chan "is for," it's what some people use it for. that's like saying "cosplay is for likes on social media."

>>9190639
>that's what 4chan is about
Except it's not.

>>9190321
you are just the most assblasted whale in the ocean rn huh

Ok gulls I have an idea for splitting the boards though:
>for cosplayers
They should have a board dedicated to everything related to cons and cosplay and other stuff like LARPing and other similar stuff (as a lolita i don't know much about cosplay and apologize if i sound ignorant) for more content and more posters

>for lolitas
We should have a board for general alternative fashions and the lifestyle/culture around it. Cattering to only japanese fashions would maybe be a bit...restricted content wise?

And off course in both board there would be the usual threads like taobao,ebay/aliexpress,posting people with awful/awesome costumes or outfits,cringe,story time,...

>>9190707
I don't think you're saying anything new.
Sorry but as a lolita I don't want to drown I weird /fa/ type topics. There's a lot of different j fash out there, and a lot of this board is geared towards discussing that.

Sorry but I don't get why people want to split so badly. I never really have an issue staying on my side of the board.

>>9189993
In that case, make it a cosplay/convention board, and a general j-fashion board.

>>9190710
Same. I am perfectly fine with our board being like that. It was merely a suggestion for if the board ever really had to split. But /fa/ is mainly pretty boring and normie fashion so I would be kinda annoyed if they invaded our precious kawaii space (even though we have lots of styles that aren't rainbow pastel vomit or frilly fluffy pink cutesy). And their view of alt fashion can still be super normie sooo...

>>9190710
this.

anyway, until jfash completely disentangles itself from the anime convention scene, the overlap will be inevitable.

keeping the boards together has the added bonus of crossboarders being clueless about the EGL side so they only troll and whine at the cosplayers. that's more of a perk than a reason, but i'll enjoy it while i can.

>>9190642
did you quote the wrong post?

>>9190487
I second this. Cosplayer or any lolita/gyaru/whatever. I know so far it has been cosplayers, but just to be clear.

>>9189992
That rule was made due to the absolute awfulness of old /cgl/
>old cgl
>5 kooter threads
>3 pixy threads
>5 newfag drama threads
>4 jnig threads
>maybe a few threads actually relating to /cgl/ but would get derailed by vendettas easily
>any time any trip (doesn't matter who) came into the thread the thread would get derailed
>threads getting derailed even without trips, just finger pointing and "hi, ____" would derail threads

not to mention
>finding personal info and trying to doxx was the norm
>it created a really shitty cgl mentality that even current lolcow could not parallel with its awfulness

THAT is why the rule is there. for actual vendetta bullshit. remove it and I fear we might become a shitty board like in the past.

However, most jntrs don't know the history of /cgl/ and new janitors often
>delete anything they think is vendetta
>delete feel threads
constantly within their first week. this ALWAYS happens. I just want an actual seagull to be a janitor for once, christ.

>>9190710
Same, a lot of ~aesthetics~ which could be classified as alt fashions belong on /fa/, and the asian fashion threads we have here are perfectly fine.

I also agree with >>9190211 that our two sides share a lot. Wig, resin, shopping, makeup and beauty threads would just be weak if they were split over two boards. And imagine if you had to post your taobao haul on two separate boards, or split up your collage into a fashion and a cosplay half. How about people who buy stickers and bentos? It would just be awkward, and what /cgl/ has going now is fine.

>>9190495
>This whole fucking forum is alive because of trolls
I think that depends on the board to be honest. Some boards do live on trolling, and it's fun and all, but this board isn't really troll material.

>>9190739
>but this board isn't really troll material
I think in light of recent certain individuals that's been proven wrong.

>>9190725
So /cgl/ was basically lolcow?

>>9190725
>However, most jntrs don't know the history of /cgl/

most POSTERS dont know the history of /cgl/

it was a NSFW fap board

>>9190742
...you know where lolcow came from, right?

>>9190725
That stupid "hi ____" shit still happens.

>>9190710
Because it would make more sense, imo. I honestly get sick of all the comm drama and dress threads. Some lolitas might cosplay but I'm frankly not into lolita and would love to have a board just for cons and cosplay. Plus, people are always saying 'lolita isn't a costume!!!1!!1' and yet it's part of a board geared towards costuming.

I get the wigs and makeup part but those are both so general. Once you really get into it, it's very different depending on whether you're looking for a cosplay makeup tutorial or everyday lolita makeup.

>>9190728
Most of the hauls are usually lolita related anyway so I don't see this being a real issue for most

>>9190744
if i remember right, all boards used to be NSFW, and that wasn't because they were "fap boards." now, NSFW are basically porn boards since we also have blue boards and people assume NSFW=post porn.

i don't know when CGL became blue, but i know it was created for both cosplay and EGL fashion, and NSFW lolita fashion isn't a thing. porn may have been allowed before the board went blue but that isn't why it was created.

>>9190751
>Some lolitas might cosplay but I'm frankly not into lolita
accoeding to the census poll, most cosplayers are also into jfash. an actual majority.

this is basically a /con/ board; jfash in the West is strongly associated with conventions. it's why we don't chase the visual kei fans (who talk music, not fashion or cosplay) off to /mu/; visual kei is also part of anime convention culture.

>>9190728
Oh yeah, I forgot about stickers and stuff, I'm one of those people!
And I usually only look for kawaii stuff and it's great to see other people's buy lists for stuff like that.

>>9190751
I don't cosplay and never have an issue with there being cosplay threads.
I don't get this, sorry.

>>9190751
Shut the fuck up?!?!!????

>>9190754
>>9190768
I wouldn't care if the threads weren't 99% bitching.

>>9190779
Chill.

>>9190779
Case in point

>>9190781
>>9190783
>not getting the meme

>>9190780
You don't have to look on those threads at all if they aren't cosplay related, that's what I don't get. Like why do have an issue with some thing that you could just stop looking at?

>>9190752
Yep, this. My memory isn't that great, but as an oldfag your description is how I remember it too.

>>9189992
I wonder how much of this board has actually been here long enough to remember the Before Time.
You know, the time period that got us our reputation for being the shittiest cosplay/lolita community on the internet.

>>9190779
i laughed. thanks, anon.

>>9190786
Oh is it from cosplay threads?
Either way... why are just in here to post memes, could you maybe contribute to the discussion.

>>9190793
i am glad it sounds familiar to you because that makes me feel less alone as a human being.

>>9190801
i stopped visitig /cgl/ while that was going on. i was so fucking glad when i came back and the anti-vendetta rule was in place.

>>9190807
Welcome anon, you seem to be the only one who got it.

>>9190810
It's from a really old cringe image.

>>9190810
>Oh is it from cosplay threads?

>>9190752
>NSFW lolita isn't a thing

Clearly you forgot about *that* porn doujin.

>>9189992

God please keep this rule in place, enough vendetta bleeds through the posts as it is. As someone who is literally here for the cosplay/costuming and doesn't get involved in personal cosplayer drama it's so tiring having to see that shit instead of a decent thread. If it wasn't against the rules the board would be unusable.

>Image thread
>Images: 8
>Replies: 120

You can pretty much tell a shit drama thread at a glance from the catalogue.

Otherwise I'm honestly pretty happy with how this place is, reporting trolls tends to enact fairly quick action from the Mods/Janitors. Keep up the good work.

>>9190710
>Sorry but as a lolita I don't want to drown I weird /fa/ type topics

I agree, I'm not lolita but I hate the idea of J-Fash getting its own board, /fa/ is pretty terrible and a cringey combination of the types of people who post on /r9k/ and the types of people who post on /mu/. If I'm trying to talk about Ouji or Menhera I really don't want some channer dweeb telling me to get swole or post feet or something, it'd be too much of a culture clash.

>Don't fucking split
>Don't allow drama threads, go to lolcow

I like the way my /cgl/ is right now. If anything just updtate the general.

>>9190857
This!!! for fucks sake.
Let's be glad this board doesn't have creepy /mu/ kind of people here.

Also, I'm big into conventios (artist alley) and would really hate splitting up.

People miss talking about kooter but, do we really need that? that's why lolcow exists.

>>9190889
I want to live inside kooters pooter and it makes me sad I can't constantly remind /cgl/ of that.

>>9190857
Not only that but it's pretty obvious that other boards don't know what goes on here especially on the jfash side of the board. The reactions I've seen for lolita on other boards are some next level over reactions. Not even ageplay assumptions just general "what in the hell is going on on that board"

That and the old "cgl girls are gross" memes but that's cause of all the old tampon stories from feels threads.

>>9190142
We should do this

>>9190193
One of the reasons the board isn't popular is because it isn't split. I've talked with lolita's in my comm about cgl and a lot of them are annoyed with how many conlita's there are here. And some lolita's get really autistic about being grouped in with cosplayers. It could be way more popular because facebook isn't private enough and livejournal is dying.

>>9190209
>we can't use LiveJournal
Why not?

>>9190142
Or how about this board stays as /con/ and you fucks leave. /egl/ and j fash have been intruding for far too long.

>>9190747
hi ______

>>9190926
This is exactly what I mean.

It seems like everyone that wants the boards to stay together are really only doing it for convenience and not looking at the bigger picture.

Are there any J-Fash non-lolitas who approve of this split?

I can't help but feel this is only representative of a small group of lolitas. Wouldn't it be easier just for those people to go to another community rather than tearing another apart just because they don't want to associate with cosplayers.

4chan isn't the only website on the internet.

>>9190926
My comm only hates this board because of vendetta posting which does still happen.

>>9190933
I think a split would be good. It would be nice to have a slower board where people would be more receptive of generals for certain substyles. In a lot of the slower boards a general can stay up for significantly longer than ours without being bumped for the sole purpose of not being pruned. There were multiple occasions last spring where I was too late to ask something in an uchuu thread before it got bumped off the map. As compared to a thread in /u/ that has been responded to for a whole week while autosaging, leading to hundreds more replies. It would be beneficial to discussion.

I don't see why people are so concerned about board traffic anyway. You don't need new posts constantly unless you're seriously so bored that you spend all of your day refreshing the page. This doesn't have to be /v/ or anything. A good bit of the boards on this site are a lot slower than /cgl/.

Don't you see? A split would be BORING AS FUCK.

>>9190963
No, it would just get trolled even more. It's like no one here has ever visited /x/

>>9190963
it also wouldn't solve any of the real problems. it's just easy to debate.

>>9190841

>>9190947

A J-Fashion board would be quickly coopted by /fa/ and all the cancer that brings. If Lolitas don't like being around cosplayers, they'll like being around neckbeards trying to tell them that they look shit even less.

Prepare for Uchuu-kei threads to be turned into spaceboots and pseudo gothninja threads and for VKei/Ouji threads to be trolled to oblivion with 'HURR HOT TOPIC SHIT' posts.

>>9190999
Yup, bad idea all around.

>>9190999
Trips confirm

>>9190999
good

>>9190485
ID's are thread specific newfag

>>9190974
I go to /x/ on a regular basis and I always got the impression that the high level of trolling there had more to do with the trollability of the userbase:
>people who will believe in anything paranormal no matter how dumb
>people who will have an aneurysm at the sight of a flat earth or mandela effect thread
>people with psychotic disorders (such as a certain german who will go unnamed) who use the board as an interactive extension of their psychosis
>spellbegging nooblets who want to be taught all about sigils
>people who you can't tell if they legit never heard of the grifter or what, but fuck me runnin if it ain't the fifth thread this week asking about it
>people who are either taking their seroquel as prescribed, or are baked off their ass, or both
all of these people are low-hanging fruit for trolls. hell, some of the tinfoils practically troll themselves.

if board slowness correlated to trolling, /diy/ would be engulfed in trolls, but it's not.

I would be hesitant to split /cgl/ up for reasons mentioned upthread by other anons; but although it would slow both boards, I don't necessarily think it would make them targets for trolls any more than /cgl/ already is.

>>9191102
Fair enough but I'm sure you've seen how easily gulls take bait... that was part of my comparison. Not to mention, unlike diy, we can lack in content which automatically turns into trolling here.

>>9191102
Also to be fair, this level of trolling is the worst in years and it's understandable that the user base here can't easily distinguish between actual aspies or trolls.

>>9190211
underrated post

As much as I hate to say it, /cgl/ really needs to go back to being a mix of both old and new.

>don't split the boards
Other anons have good arguments for why (like a Jfash board being shitted up by /fa/)

>relax on the "everything you post that isn't good about someone is vendetta!! BAN!!" rule
I got banned recently just for catching someone up on Venus's mothers crazy antics because I was vendetta-ing against a woman who stalked her kid to her husband's home in another country.
This is also meanwhile bait is being posted in the Feels thread that goes unbanned.

>janitors need to get their shit together
They're so back and forth on banning unnecessary things while ignoring the shitposters outright.

>lolitas and cosplayers can't get along!!
..we have though? The hobbies overlap for the most part and we all use the same websites to shop. I don't see why we need separate boards just to discuss the same topics (hair, makeup, Chinese shopping sites, etc)

>>9191119

Yeah. Let's just ban people that reply to that stupid shit. That stuff could've gone ignored but someone just had to fucking reply.
I swear, there are people here who WANT this place to continue getting trolled like this.

>>9191142
Yup, /fa/ and /fit/ infest this place all the time.
Not to mention the other boards that stop by from time to time.

>>9191142
you said everything i wanted to say more eloquently, so i deleted what i typed up and am quoting you instead

>>9190898
>"cgl girls are gross" memes
>memes

>>9190478
What do you mean original content?

There were a few back in the day when the board focused on personalities. Johnny Bravo and comedian threads for one. However the board drove them away and moderators banned them.

Meanwhile there were vocaroo threads, closet cosplay threads and games however t hose threads got ignored so people stopped.

>>9191377
we had a closet cosplay/coord game early this year but it kind of fizzled out.

we also had an OC art thread that got some drawfags participating before it was deleted and everyone was told to go to the regular drawthread (where non-portrait ideas get ignored or scoffed at).

in the AA thread this year, or maybe last year, artists made a kind of mascot (spiderburger) and an anon with a charms printing business mailed versions of it out to people who asked.

until school started, we had a "CGL Against Humanity" game running with cool, chill, funny people playing, sometimes multiple times a day, sometimes once a week. i really regret not having time to keep the thread alive.

then there were the crossboard events that get deleted and/or pushed offboard. those often see a huge explosion of content unless or until people bitch at them to stop.

good things do still happen. the biggest problem is "no fun allowed" seagulls who piss on anything fun or creative; the second biggest problem is the janitor mindset that removes content-generating threads in the name of rules, even when enforcing the letter of the law goes against the spirit of the board. for example, harmless creativity that is guilty of some minor technicality gets deleted, while threads mocking real people (without focusing on a specific name) are staples of the board.

>>9191142
what does margo drama have to do with cgl? keep that shit on lolcow

>>9191108
>>9191120
very true, point taken

>>9191235
As of recently. /g/ has invaded our aliexpress thread. How do we make them leave?

>>9190193
Ok, add fursuits, but let jfashion leave. Lolitas and jfash already have enough shit to deal with, I think adding furries without removing jfash would kill the jfash side of things. Adding furries & fursuiting would be fine to add to a costume board, which cosplay is.

Tl;dr, the two may be about dressing up, but one is a costume, one is a fashion. It's a very big divide.

>>9190222
>Remove the rule about not talking about people, especially scammers. It's not reasonable that scammer discussion immediately gets nuked.

YES. If cgl is going to be a ~salty and bad~ place then at least allow us to use this salt for something

>>9190321
Not on cows like them, but the scarfingscarves girl followed advice, other people have too, they're just harder to remember because they're not absolute cows so no one remembers

>>9191447
It was in reference to a cringe topic where someone posted a Venus-wannabe and another person said "This person is nearly as bad as crazy Venus"
Turns out they had no idea what had happened with Venus and her mum so honestly, I would have rather gotten the ban than let people assume outdated shit about someone who was actually /cgl/ relevant for a long time.

>>9191535
Is that who's been shitting up the Ali topic? I had to actually unfollow it because I couldn't stand it anymore.

>>9190478
>>9191377
>>9191393
This 100%. Playing CAH with seagulls was fantastic but I think Freeman got to the point where he was having to pay for it and while I and others donated when we could, it didn't really seem enough.

With Halloween coming up though I think we'll see more OC in the traditional "Roll for Closet Cosplay" and "Roll for Halloween Coord" games that pop up and then after Halloween it'll be Seagull Santa time if anyone's going to host it this year.
I participated last year and it was the best time I've had here in years so I'm hoping someone will host it again.

Cgl won't be great. I only come here for the b/s/t and dream dress threads now. Cgl isn't good for jfashion discussion. I've looked at other threads and there's often wrong information which I think people do on purpose to troll, but newbies actually believe them and take their advice. You don't know if the people in the coord help thread even wear lolita. From some of the arguments that go on I think the majority of the lolita's here are conlita's. Even the sticky gives bad advice to lolita's. Besides, this board is known as the place where lolita's without friends go to be nasty and nickpicky.

>>9191393
I'm all for this. I'd love to see more content that's just fun. Kinda sucks that there's nothing going on now

>>9191647
the mana thread gave us Pepe Mana, so i wouldn't say nothing is going on. just hasn't gotten traction yet.

I think bring back /con/ woukd would gor a few reasons.
>people who specifically are only coming here for that information can stay there
>casuals that pretty much only want attention for their cosplays can go there sprouting their what should i wear for this con? Posts
>country specific threads will get more traffic and more general information can be said that'll there be completely on topic
>artist alley threads will make more sense being there and may get more productive cross overs with other sorts of vendors
>cringe/creeper ect threads will also be more at home there as they're not always cosplay or egl specific and then its more likely sperglords will see to there and even perhaps fix some of their behaviours
I could go on but every way I look at it, it just makes more sense.

>>9190230
I agree, I hate when a thread devolves into 'ur fat lol' and then the anon defending themselves and on and on, but there are only so many rules we can ask for before everyone's getting banned left right and centre

>>9191695
Seriously but I guess it doesn't get old for trolls that just use the same jokes on repeat.

>>9189984
>discuss what could be done to improve or just ignore this and carry on

I mean we could update our sticky that way we have a place to point people to for advice instead of just screaming "lurk more" to every newfag that comes along but idk maybe I'm just salty

>>9191593
>>9191393
So what kind of original content do you want to see?

Here's the issue, original content doesn't get noticed cause far too often they get ignored and the posts float to the bottom. Many of those ideas do require participation in order for them to succeed and unlike photo dumps where the OP can just keep adding pictures at regular intervals, such creative threads die out.

Back in the days of Ulthros, Johnny Bravo, Groopey and their ilk many of the original content was generated by in character personalities. However the board took a hard swing toward all trips and as such the productive ones were lumped with the shit posters so many of the old standbys just simply faded away.

Reason why we're filled with con threads, photo dumps, help threads and tutorials is that these are the only threads people really bump up. I loved cgl as it was raw, unfiltered and just full of honesty where strange topics could pop up but be treated with a level of seriousness that brought up an air of discussion. There was a time where someone could bring up their insecurities and be met with either comments of support or as a bridge for other people to share their painful feelings. Even if the assholes came to the threads they at least said something interesting that pushed the conversation forward as opposed to just dropping a "you're fat" or "shut up virgin" and walk away.

Cgl is becoming to look more like a con panel listing where we're getting the same tired topics over and over again that welcome a passive audience. Nothing really engages us as a community anymore and we can just quietly browse this board, take in the content and information and quietly leave.

>>9191811
I think the feels thread actually does most of the connection/discussion. Seagulls post what's going on with them and get a surprising amount of support and advice. I know I posted recently and got a lot of good vibes from others and offered advice to others as well.

There is definitely an unspoken rule against selfposting and tripping here that dampens things but for the most part it's for good reason. When we had trips (I was a minor one just for fun) it got out of control and ended with shitposting.
With selfposting topics you'd get the same few people constantly posting just for asspats and attention and distracting away from everyone else. These people also tended to be trips or go on to be minor lolcows that would also post bad things about themselves for the attention as well.

Yes, I agree we tend to get the same topics over and over but for the most part they're discussion general topics. Like lolita comms, you can discuss issues with other comm members under anonymous security. In the niche topics like Itabag, you can meet other people with the same interest and form meet-ups and friendships.
It's not just a board filled with topics where you show up, read a few informational posts, and then leave without having a chance to interact with anyone.

>>9190898
"cgl girls are gross" memes
But that's true. I don't think you've been to many meetups. Normal girls are more attractive. I say this because I am one.

>>9191234

Well if we're going to start banning people who respond to bait, can we at least update "replying to bait" in our board rules as a reason for bans?
Because I got the most ridiculous ban recently for replying facetiously to an annoying troll under the "singling out" rule and it was absolute bullshit. The "singling out" and "vendetta" rule literally didn't apply to what was posted. Mod just needed a reason for the posts gone, which I can understand, but get real.

I'm genuinely curious, if there was board split, where would the itabag thread go?

>>9191930
>>>/trash/

>>9191930
Maybe to /toy/, possibly to the /egl/ side.

>>9191936
As is, itabags definitely belong on /cgl/. They're clearly originating from jfash, and the fandom-fashion/merchandise elements make them fit in with cosplay. It's my favorite thread on this board, and routinely has both original content and discussion posted. I'm just wondering where the thread would end up in event of a split, as a topic that is somehow relevant to both and neither individual board.

>>9191942
I don't think the threads would work for toy. Toy has a rule against Japanese figures already, and the emphasis on crafting and fan-merchandise goes counter to the boards culture. The thread would be more on topic on /jp/.... but no way in hell can I see the thread surviving on /jp/.

>>9191958
>the joke
>your head

>>9191961
I got the joke, man, it just wasn't funny.

>>9191590
Yeah, they realized that they basically have a male version of our Ali threads and of course thirsty guys came over to shit it up

>>9192007
Maybe you just have no sense of humor?

>>9190035
>>9190144
Part of the reason cgl is slow is because very few people do both cosplay and Jfash. People who do one and not the other are only going to participate in threads for their own hobby.

A board split allows more opportunity for threads about different subjects, which fuels discussion and activity.

>>9192247
>very few people do both cosplay and Jfash
factually untrue

someone not high right now, please link the 2016 census to this goshdarn thread

>>9191546
Yeah and then she turned around and started doing crazy shit again, and it looks like it's on purpose.

I just wish this board wasn't so slow.
If that means having pixyteri and jnig threads galore, by all means.

>>9191546
former cow here. I had a kneejerk reaction to all the constructive critisism thrown at me, and refused to change purely because people were dickweeds.

when one anon was actually nice about it, I changed and learned.

but if someone goes

"HAHAHA YOU LOOK LIKE AN UGLY FUCKING MANFACED BITCH WHAT ARE YOU DOING YOU SAD UGLY CUNT NO WONDER NO ONE LIKES YOU"

vs

"let me be real with you, try lighter shades of makeup, they'll give your face a softer apperance.."

which one do you think girls are more likely to ignore, and which one do you think girls would be more likely to follow? of course some girls out there wont follow ANY advice no matter what, but flinging shit at them right off the bat is not the way to go.

>>9192379
What has she done that's so bad?

>>9192396
>being such a sensitive sally

It's not other people that are the problem fampai.

>>9189993
That's a stupid idea, you're stupid

>>9192397
Have you seen her recent posts? She's blatantly rebelling against all the advice she was given.
I don't think that many people give a rats ass if anons have good or bad crit for them.

And that was my original point. Just because you say someone looks like shit or that they're fat, doesn't mean they're gonna listen.
Sure, she listened to some crit and followed it. Then she did a 180 probably because anons found more things to criticise. That's the real issue with wanting anyone to take crit from this place. Some anon is always gonna find one more thing to fix. You can't expect people to become perfectionists because that's what anons want.

I think people here need to be more realistic. You can't just expect people to listen to you. Most people do whatever the fuck they want.

>>9190006
This. /tv/ talks about the channel awesome lolcows all the time but in here mentioning one cosplayer once gets the entire thread taken down. I agree that the vendettas are annoying as hell but if someone has done legitimately bad shit that's harmful to the community we should be able to share and discuss it.

The more involved you get with the cosplay community and the more experience you gain, the more people like this you meet and the more you want to open up about them. The drama ban was what originally chased away all the experienced cosplayers of the board who took the content with them. Everybody was lurking this board in hopes of drama and thus checking out the other threads too. Not saying we should allow specified threads for all cows like the farms but just make it so mentioning someone doesn't get the thread and the post deleted.

Also I want to have a stricter enforcement of the "no offtopic" rule and ban fap threads. I'm so sick of looking at bitches treating /cgl/ like their personal psychologist and /r9k/ coming in with low quality bait.

>>9192471
>Also I want to have a stricter enforcement of the "no offtopic" rule and ban fap threads.
I agree with this but I still want to have feels threads. I post on topic about stuff going on with my comm there and I think there is a place for it.

I agree with it in that all other threads should definitely only be about what they're about and they have to relate to the board. That would require a lot more work on the mods part and I doubt they'll do it but it also requires that people are actually reporting and they aren't always. Shit stays up for AWHILE sometimes. The mods move slower than the board does.

>>9190464
You are on 4chan. There are plenty of websites for you to go to if you're tired of trolls and shitposters. Anonymity is what makes 4chan special, and desu it is never difficult to have a discussion even with shitposters in a thread. If your threads or posts are being ignored in favor of shitposts, it means your content is boring, try again later.

>>9190466
Some sort of newfag more like. I have never had an issue with shitposts, if anything cgl is one of the more put-together boards I've been on. Unless in this case "shitpost" means concrit and controversial opinions.

>>9190485
I agree. Why not just use trips if you want to be known in a thread? It makes more sense to me since they would be more specific than ID numbers.

>>9190788
This counts for trolls too. I think "don't feed the trolls" is a rule the internet has forgotten.

>>9193274
But tumblr has invaded, that's why this is an issue. They feed the trolls and the trolls don't leave because of it.

Since this is the meta thread and no other thread is really relevant, here's another meme-worthy headline.

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/shocking-moment-seagull-eats-pigeon-alive-in-front-of-horrified-passengers-at-bristol-temple-meads/story-29729310-detail/story.html#ixzz4KiEF3PPq

>>9193274
I think it's less that people forgot and more that they have to give their two cents

Like everyone else, I think they need to let us talk about people more. There is a girl in my comm who anytime ANYTHING gets said about her it's deleted within 10 minutes, even if it doesn't use her name, even if it's not negative. It's crazy and some people actually started thinking one of the mods here is a friend of hers, it got so bad.

>>9193254
Because people will give you all kinds of shit for it.

>>9193368
Let's give it a test run for a week and see how it goes?

Mods probably won't budge. I haven't seen it happen for other boards anyway.

FUCK YOU

>>9193719
mad fatty detected

>>9193737
Don't reply, just report.

>>9193715
not if it's on topic for the thread and serves the purpose of identification within that topic, not everywhere else.

useful for things like secret santas and the AA thread. nobody is bothered by context-specific trips; it's what they were made for.

>>9190508
Oh god that would be amazing, actually

>>9190636
yep, way better now

>>9190725
Good points, anon

>>9193368
I've seen this happen and also the opposite. There are obvious vendetta posts that are left up until the thread sages and the anon doesn't get blocked or banned from posting them.

>>9190882
>go to lolcow
This.
Lolcow exists. If you want to bitch about drama, go to the site dedicated to gossiping about other people.

>>9194008
I think people are annoyed that lolcow is dead now because people kept tipping the cows and they think allowing singling out of people on /cgl/ will generate new drama.

The people who are the most vehement about wanting to shittalk others are usually the worst kinds of posters anyway.

>>9194008
>>9194167
Actually lolcow is dying because the new moderation is fucking retarded and paranoid everyone is from pol or r9gay. I've never had warnings/bans from that website until the new mod took over, and honestly since you can be hit with either for saying the most slightly ot thing, or what they consider "trolling," the appeal of that website has taken a dive. Mod is too overbearing about which cows can't be discussed anymore as well, something that NEVER happened with old admin.
>tldr new moderation for the website sucks and is biased af

>>9190492
ok but how about
only get IDs for the gossip thread.

>>9190485
>i never knew what "receipts" were until people from tumblr explained it

care to explain?

>>9194175
This 1000%
There is an eight chan board dedicated to basically bitching about lolcow and hows its died. Its bannedcows for anyone interested to seeing why the site has turned to utter(udder anyone? heh) shit.

>>9194008
>>9190882
Not everyone is into lolcow though? Personally they are too much for me. /cgl/ is a nice middle ground.

and we should be able to talk about people as long as it's relevant to the comm/the fashion. This is one of the few places where people can speak their minds without being ostracized. If I wanted everything i said to be heavily moderated I would just go to rufflechat.

>>9194185
Basically 'proof' that someone is a shitty person. Old posts they've made, pictures, etc. Anything that provides evidence of said bad behavior. Kinda like doxxing but without actually having to hack someone.

>>9193368
But why do you want to talk about her? Sounds like needless shit stirring.

>>9189992

Anyone else notice
>singling out individual cosplayers
>cosplayers
yet EGL fashion stuff gets deleted when its relevant or company things like Gothic lolita wigs or Gensobox

>>9194478
I agree discussing certain companies shouldn't be deleted or bannable and yet it does happen frequently.

Singling out individuals is totally different than a company or brand.

Is it possible to get new mods and janitors? They are the ones who are suppose to keep cgl in order and give proper bans but they always either delete everything to not deal with the minor trolling, give stupid bans for just mentioning someone even if it vague or saying that something/someone looks ugly or fat. Then at times, the mods nor the janitors are available when hwc or major shitposting is happening and by the time they come, the damage has been done.

>>9194167
>>9194219
Singling people out on cgl will basically turn it into a PULL/lolcow hybrid. You'll attract PULL's army of 13 year old tumblrinas who think they're so edgy and mature for calling people out while also getting lolcow's share of self-posters and annoying anons. Allowing drama will also further cgl' rep as "the bitchy girls' board" and attract more trolls like HWC.
Basically allowing people to single out cosplayers/jfash wearers will destroy the board.

>>9194473
Anon has a point though. Some people get posts about them deleted super fast whereas others will have their posts stay up until the thread dies or is deleted. I don't read a lot of Lolita threads so idk much about them, but there was some anon that kept shitting on one one or two instagram threads ago and the posts about her weren't deleted even though it was obvious vendetta. Obvious vendetta posts about Zekia and Ukraine aren't deleted either.

>>9194478
>>9194497
This. We should be able to discuss a company/service and give reviews without having threads deleted. /a/'s buyfag threads allow people to give reviews about companies and manufacterers and they're able to keep it civil, so I don't see why it wouldn't work for us.

>>9194539
Don't mods get to choose janitors? Back when janitor applications went up a while ago, several anons mentioned signing up but no one ever heard back. Unless the mods want change to happen, everything will stay the same.

I support a board split.
One board for cosplay and conventions.
One board for lolita and other jfash.

>>9194549

>>9194546
I never heard back either so who knows.

>>9194543
>Some people get posts about them deleted super fast whereas others will have their posts stay up until the thread dies or is deleted

I don't think janitors troll the board deleting stuff, they respond to reports. So maybe they just need to get more strict on enforcing the rules.

>>9194546

Ive heard they only choose their friends which wouldnt surprise me desu

>>9194213
That site has cp on it tho. I'm not going there.

>>9194301
The archive exists and people already do that here -- there's a certain someone who was doing it in a menhera thread not too long ago.

>>9194647
I know the instagram thread they're talking about and I fucking reported those posts and yeah. They weren't deleted and instead I believe at least one of mine were and I was defending the girl.

>>9194637
>>9194664
I thought it was a well known fact that the mods/janis basically view cgl's moderation team as some super elite group of cosplayers/lolis. They don't let anyone in other than whoever's on their guest list. But by doing that, they've screwed the entire board over by not appointing the moderation that this board actually needs.

>>9194962
I'm pretty sure they keep up drama about select people because they're either participating in it or because they like watching what's going down/want to see the outcome.

>>9194969
I'm sure a paranoid-chan will flip out about this BUT, I went ahead and looked at the archive for that insta thread. (OH NOES ITS LIKE DOXXING STOP IT WEH)

I see why my posts were deleted however, the other posts were in fact not deleted. Just as I remembered. Vendetta anon's reply was not deleted.

Both mine and the vendetta anon should've been deleted. See how I fully take responsibility for my actions?

What a bunch of shit mods.

Am I the only one who's pretty satisfied with how cgl is currently? Most of us do both cosplay and Jfashion, and if you want gossip go to lolcows.

>>9195023
Have you seen lolita gen lately?

>>9195085
no

>>9195001
no one cares about your old ass thread. if you're so mad that your whiteknight posts got deleted, then go somewhere else.

>>9195023
i wish mods would respond faster to obvious bait and troll posts but desu i like cgl as it is now.
and yea, lolcow for gossip, guys. i don't get why that's so hard.

>>9190321
FYI I actually do take advice about my outfits into consideration and I think a lot of stuff /cgl/ has said has helped me improve. The recent shit has just been people calling me fat and "hey voldie" to randoms that defend me.

also >>9192396

>>9195117
you are actually fat tho

>>9195118
I'm aware, and working to change that, but spamming threads with "omg look at that arm fat" or whatever isn't constructive and just derails.

>>9195121
why'd you let yourself get to stuffed sausage roll status to begin with??

your face isn't ugly so why?

>>9195122
Idk man, college lifestyle+lots of social drinking? It's not super relevant.

>>9190321
>It's usually just "hey lose a few".
BULLSHIT

>>9195123
your friends are shit then

where I'm from even if you gain like a cm on your waist people say

"did you get fatter?"

is this why the west is so fat?

nobody is willing to tell their friends they're porking out?

>>9195125
Do you even have friends to tell they're fat? Isn't it just you and your husband?

>>9195132
i don't see them as much as I used to

but yes

everyone has friends

and you guys are my friends


also


>not being friends with the person you marry

wot

>>9195125
Man, I really feel like Japanese people don't try to causally use words like "porkin"
Like what in Japanese would translate to some weird western slang?
Why do you come across as some foreign exchange student parody?

>>9195133
Are your friends fatter than you and do you tell them?

>Everyone has friends
That's pretty naive of you.

>>9195135
do you also talk with random people online the same way you speak in real life?


this shouldn't be a hard concept?

>>9195137
most are fatter than me

and if they significantly gain weight yeah

like just a cm or so isn't the end of the world

>naive

I married a guy who is 14 years older than I am when I was 21

naive should be no surprise when talking to me right?

>>9195123
>college lifestyle+social drinking
Neither are good excuses. Basically you're a fat fuck because you let yourself go way too much.

>>9195138
>do you also talk with random people online the same way you speak in real life?
I do, yeah. Why do you not?

So you like to live in ignorance of the world around you? Why?

Also, are you a dd/lg? Cause that would explain a lot. But I think you said you tried to call him daddy once and he didn't like it?
But it does seem like you're the sub in the relationship.

>>9195146
Do you know anything about alcohol?

>>9195148
>So you like to live in ignorance of the world around you? Why?

I was abused badly as a kid and then as soon as that stopped I got swooped away by someone who never says no

ever

>DD/lg

no way in hell

>>9195133
>i don't see them as much as I used to
Can't imagine why, what with your beaming personality.
Nobody wants to be around you besides the dude that stuffs you.

>>9195159
I don't actually act like this in the real world you know?

>trying to dismiss a relationship you know nothing of


I get why this is a meme to you guys with me but

really?

have you watched us interact?

do you know what it's like?

>>9195160
That was quick. Have a tab open that you are voraciously refreshing hoping some anon gives you attention? Get porked, loser.

>>9195164
>newfags don't know what auto refresh is

I am not surprised you're grasping at straws this much to try and insult me

not like you have real traction with the other

>>9190211
>Can we bring back /fit/ Fridays though?
I agree with the whole post but this in particular.

>>9194962
I definitely don't know anyone on the moderation team and posts I report usually get taken down. Sometimes it can take a day or so but I just thought it was due to timezone differences.

How do we stop stuff like this from happening again?

>>9195169
I wish we could have /fit/ fridays back. They were OT because a lot of people would dump fit cosplays, so I don't see why it wasn't okay. You could absolutely get more advice from that thread than on /fit/ these days, sticky aside.

>>9195001
I believe you anon. In the past, I've had seemingly random posts of mine deleted in threads. They were relevant to cosplay, and I don't know any other cosplayers, so it couldn't have been "drama." I've also, admittedly, posted and replied to completely irrelevant stuff in feels threads that have stayed up while other irrelevant posts were deleted in that same thread.

As a long time lurker and neither a cosplayer or someone that dresses in jfash I don't think my vote should count as much but personally I'm not up for the board split. I believe both sides have a lot in common and splitting it would result in two boards talking about similar stuff (all those ebay/taobao threads, makeup etc) but different people.
The two hobbies share similar roots so splitting them up feels unecessary to me.
While I didn't partake in either hobby irl because of money reasons and a shitty country I still have some knowledge on the subjects, due to me spending 6 years on this board in particular.

I used to frequent this board much more during the lolcow days and enjoyed reading the drama.
I agree that during the end of that era some people went overboard with the trolling and doxxing and whatnot but a good scammer alert/bad person general with a bit of drama wouldn't hurt.

>>9195441
Oh yeah, there have definitely been times where I posted one thing that was kind off topic but the rest of my replies were deleted anyway, just because I'm the one who posted them.

>>9195433
Stuff like that gets deleted pretty fast -- it was today as well. Shit like that is always gonna happen because like I said in previous comments, 4chan is mostly dudes and some of those guys know there are girls here that are easy to mess with. It's not all ladies here sure, but there are a good amount of us here in comparison to any other board.

>>9195446
I agree. I definitely have a bad person/scammer to call out but it'd get deleted so fast.
I wish people had warned me about this person.

>>9190433
Yea, what even is the point of deleting a whole thread? If anything just ban and mass delete the shitters. On every place I've moderated for before, I've never had a situation where I thought "gee, the trolls sure ruined this thread, guess I'd better just delete the whole thing!"

>>9190752
I actually miss those days, to be honest. The site is 18+, it was a given that the WHOLE site would be NSFW. Even if you weren't 18 (Moot wasn't even 18 at the fucking time) there was still the expectation that you'd bump into adult content on this site.

The whole site was NSFW, but as a courtesy it was also the unspoken norm to not do porn dumps outside of porn focused boards and to spoiler NSFW images. Nobody really gave a shit so long as you did that, and it wasn't uncommon to see a random lewd image on /a/ spoilered and mods wouldn't delete it. The "PROMOTIONS" meme, which isn't really used anymore, came ironically from the content of NSFW content posted on SFW boards without a spoiler but nobody actually cared.

I kinda hate how there's a literal strict distinction between posting NSFW content outside of NSFW designated boards. I blame faggots like Tohno on /a/ and his tripfag crew for literally having scripts that spammed image dump threads.

I realize this is more of a complaint of the current state of 4chan as a whole rather than the board, but boy do I wish the 18+ disclaimer still had a fucking meaning; not because I wanna masturbate to random threads, but just because of the sense of freedom that comes with it.

Tried posting it in the feels thread but it got promptly deleted (and I recieved a temp ban for being off topic) so I'll post it here. I could understand temp banning me for any of my off topic posts, but I was directly discussing /cgl/ and /cgl/ culture in that case.

I feel like feels threads are pretty good containment threads, rather than girls whining or discussing in regular threads (which they still do to a degree) they can just move it there. being able to speak about whats bothering you to a brutally honest 4chan while being anonymous has its appeal. They are only partially on topic most of the time, but I never understood the need to purge feel threads of anything remotely on topic. (most of the times this happens, while shitposting is ignored)

>>9196615
>tfw no thread for ageplay porn with lolita dresses

>>9196615
NSFW literally means Not Safe For Work. it has nothing to do with keeping content safe for minors.

>>9196914
They just deleted the confessions thread too. I don't know why they couldn't have just removed the shitposts.

The mods really do seem like they overstep their bounds a lot, and are extra harsh on shitposting when it suits them and extemely lax on it at other times.