/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>UNDER FALL JUSTICE announced a full-length album, Minikui Kyozetsu (醜い拒絶), to be released this year when they joined Starwaves Records in May. That in itself was some pretty exciting news coming from the band, but there’s something extra to look forward to, especially if you like collaborations; included in the album is a very cool sounding cover of La’Mule‘s 2000 hit, Knife (ナイフ), and the special guest collaborator is none other than Kon (紺) himself (the ex-vocalist of the now disbanded La’Mule)! He’ll be lending his vocals to the chorus of the song. Such a guest is fitting for a band who theatrically sings about depressing concepts such as, death, darkness, self-harm, suicide, and many other unpleasant things. You can get a feel for the album by listening to the preview the band recently published.

Absolute and utter hype.

>>9160043
oshare>visual

>>9160071
Oshare is a subgenre of visual...that statement is completely contradictory. But still I love oshare kei.

>>9160071

oshare was a mistake

>>9160071
I never understood oshare. is it supposed to be a more fashionable, less depressed version of visual kei?

>>9160053
they selfharm or they are trying to be edgy? idgi

>>9162088
they deal with depressive lyrical topics

>>9162088

Oshare is indeed the more fashionable, trendy side of visual kei.
Not necessarily happier or less depressed (and for that matter, not all VK bands are necessarily dark/depressive). They follow a more street style, so to speak, rather than a theatrical or exaggerated style like Mizer or DEG.
It started in early 00s and I think one of the first bands that was labeled as oshare was baroque.

>>9162190
Thank you for the explanation, i was gonna explain but you just did better than i ever could have

>>9161972
Probably.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/26694

Anyone old enough to remember this place?

Love this band, i bought allot of their first released stuff.

I need to put this here since it was just uploaded.
The reactions to Insanity Injection were golden.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U2iDPujBOo

>>9162597

how shamefull it is that they only put these common mainstram bands in it :/

>>9162597
HOLY SHIT I love all those songs and seeing YouTubers react to it is so surreal...

>>9162611
Seriously? Insanity Injection and Dadaroma aren't mainstream. And the GazettE is one of the top worldwide ambassadors of visual kei.

>>9162650

There is allot of visual kei, compared to whats out there and people i know, those 3 are highly mainstream to me, however if ur only covering yourself at that layer then its diffrent from your experience.

>>9162659
Insanity Injection is definitely not mainstream...they're very niche gothic neo-kote. Nobody who doesn't remember Aliene Ma'riage doesn't really care about Insanity Injection (in the West at least).

Anyway, stop acting like you know more than other people. Many people know the indiest of new indies bands and the biggest oldest longest running mainstream bands. You're being asinine by saying those weren't good choices of songs.

>>9162668

Sadly i'm entitled to the opinion of finding the songs chosen to be very common to each other while there is much more styles to be offerd.
and yea i suppose nisanity injection isnt all that populair, but they sure pop up enough for me heh.

>>9162597
I'm so out of the loop with VK bands, the only one I knew there was gazette.
I can't say I'm surprised, that's pretty much the typical reaction to VK ever. But yeah it's weird to see a reaction video about VK still.
Kinda wish they'd use older stuff I'm familiar with, stuff like Illuminati by MM, or something by 90s DEG would have been even better I think.

>>9162668
So that's really Kyoka? I didn't even knew he was back. Pretty cool I guess!

>>9162611
Yeah Insanity Injection and DADAROMA are not mainstream VK. At least Insanity Injection is not. I know DADAROMA has been growing in popularity recently.

But I do wish they would of shown a wider variety of VK. I think they should of shown one song from Kote kei, Tanbi Kei, and Oshare Kei to get a good taste of the scene.

Any love for angura bands?

>>9162675
Yeah, he's so awesome, I'm realy glad he's active.

>>9162687
Well, I like your idea, but regardless of the videos they showed, I'm wondering...

How the ever living fuck did Benny and Rafi Fine find fucking Insanity Injection, my new favorite band?

>>9162698
Yes! I've been listening to Sex-Android today, they're really active right now apparently.

>>9162699
And by "my new favorite band" I don't mean the Fine Bros introduced me to them, I mean my recent favorite.

First time seeing a VK thread here, and posting so idk if they have been discussed sometime before but: opinions on R-Shitei (R指定)? I always felt they were trying to be edgy with Japanese extreme right nationalism. But sound-wise, they're actually very nice, I have to admit. I remember reading somewhere that their live shows have a borderline creepy nationalist vibe too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXaeGCO7Xe4

>>9162698
>>9162705
You're ahead of me, but I guess they fall under that too? Also talking about trying to be edgy with extreme right Japanese nationalism..

>>9162705
I like them, they did some cool eroguro stuff. I need to listen more if you wanna share some links. And at this point, I'm used to nationalism (faux and real) in visual kei, especially angura and kurafu kei. I don't think nationalism is a bad thing either way, it doesn't hurt anyone in 2016.

>>9162700

Great, I love them! Haven't listened to anything new by then since 2010 or so though, but I really like their style, Toru is a great composer. And Junro is just badass, it doesn't get more based than him.

Don't know how many of y'all know 'bout this place, but you should check out www.rarezhut.net . They're a visual kei used shop that's based in the US and have tons of cool stuff for cheap. They're in the middle of some live auctions right now where most of the CDs are starting at $1, so you should check them out for those dank japanese ladyboi goodz.

>>9162597
I'm actually really curious. What three bands would you show to someone to introduce them to VK?

>>9162714
National Japanese WWII uniforms do bother me, the same way Nazi uniforms bother me, though. But it's kind of personal, as my grandparents experienced the war (and the asshole Japanese of the WWII along with it) in Southeast-Asia. I don't even mind the imperial flag, but man, you can't expect me to like you if you are dressed like that. So lol yes it does hurt people in 2016 if it's extreme right. But like I said, 'trying to be edgy', they do it because they think it looks cool it controversial. A type of ignorance that indeed isn't new to visual kei. The only difference is that most bands I know don't base their image around it, and with r-shitei I keep getting the feeling they push their nationalistic image to the border of extreme right nationalism. And with the WWII uniform shoot they just went straight over it, obviously.

Anyway, I don't have specific links besides the usual stuff on youtube. I'm not sure which songs you're already familiar with?

>>9162773

I know the guy who runs that site, baka neko. Cool guy.

>>9162780
Ehh don't worry about it, nevermind. I don't wanna try to redpill people on /cgl/ so Im gonna cease talking about political stuff.

>>9162780
Images seriously can't hurt people, you know. Not right wing, not left wing. Stop trying to censor aesthetic.

You can't get offended so easily if you look into a genre literally known as visual shock.

>>9162774
Not that anon, OP actually, but...
The GazettE
Versailles
An Cafe

>>9163141
I was thinking just about the same three as you. But take out An Cafe and put in Aicle, just cause I loved Aicle so much when they were around

I should of put that it was for everyone to answer. Sorry about that.

>>9163149
I'd just recommend the Obscure pv but that's more for the reaction than anything.

>>9163149
Or maybe Gallo, they're one of my new favorites...I just put An Cafe to show that there is a pop side

>>9162675
If you want to get back into the new scene, just listen to Mejibray and The Gallo.

So, native american themed visual kei happened now.

>inb4 triggered SJW anons

>>9163141

This is indeed 100x better then what they did how off.

>>9163135
>>9163138
>Trying to act like I'm a hater.
Context is key, my fellow anons. I'm not censoring anything, but I'm just not joining the edge train here. It's good to have healthy criticism, and not be biased all the time just because it's VK. Being biased seems more like living in a bluepill world, after all. I've been in the VK scene since 2004, so I know my likes and dislikes in the genre by now. That said, I do have to admit that generally the shock value in VK is getting more 'meh' to me these days. I guess I'm just getting too old. Still a fan of the sound, though. Also like I said with r-shitei, I think they are very good sound wise.

>>9163305
Looks more RPGish than Native American.

>>9163580
Alright, you're right. I see your point now. Thanks for sharing your opinions. :)

>>9163585
Their name is Sioux, do you not see the influence of that on their look? Anyway, I do see the RPG influence too, thanks for pointing that out.

>>9163410
I love Insanity Injection an Dadaroma, more and more every day in fact, but those are not how you start normies off.

>>9163945

i surely didnt start off with it, neither did i end nearly with it, far from it lol.

Any love for GPK?

>>9164227

I don't particularly like his stuff, but I remember the days when he still wasn't famous, he uploaded pics with Haruhiko Ash and Kozi when Eve of Destiny went to Australia.

>>9164227
I don't mind him. I got his full discography while he was in GPKism for free so I'll listen to it every so often

>>9164509
I absolutely love these guys, they're so talented and every one of them is a sweet person who loves their fans. I always interact with them on social media, and they're as passionate about what they do as I am about enjoying it.

>>9164720
Who are they?

>>9164929
The Sound Bee HD. Daisuke the vocalist was also in Media Youth

>>9164934
Oh sorry, I know that, I was trying to ask about the picture below SOUND BEE.

>>9165051

>>9165052

>>9163138
Wearing WW2 uniform is like glorifying fascism, how does that not hurt people?

>>9165054
Does anyone know the guy on the right?

>>9165061
It's a fucking costume, it cant hurt people. Please just drop the subject.

>>9165069
Maybe I'm biased because the people I've met who wear WW2 stuff are all literal fascists but I suppose that doesn't apply to Japanese people because they can do no harm?

>>9165067
pretty sure it's ryuzi33world929 from instagram

>>9165074
It's literally an aesthetic. You don't have to like it, you can keep getting triggered by it, thats fine. Please stop trying to quell my opinion that its just a costume.

Anyway, I really want to drop the subject, because we're shitting up my thread. Lets post about something else.

>>9165077
That's him! Thanks anon! I'll follow him now, he seems awesome.

>>9165080
final image bump with my Izumi pics, it anyone has more please do share. Or share anything else in the realm of vkei.

>>9165078
It's not an opinion that fascist imagery hurts people, it's a fact. If you don't want to talk about this, stop talking about it yourself.

>>9165106
How can images hurt people? People hurt people. Images, ideas, speech, cannot touch people. If you are pro-censorship, leave this visual kei thread. Visual kei is about complete freedom of expression and imagery. I will not stop replying, lest I let you win and undermine by thread.

Ah, good old WWII/nazi uniforms discussion, a staple of the western VK fanbase.

Image bumping. Let's all ignore any trolls now.

>>9165124
It's complete cancer that we even discuss this. Visual kei has never been known to have limits.

>>9165131

I agree.

>>9165140
Thanks :)
Limiting aesthetic is irrational imo.

>>9165781
New release???? :0

>>9160053
it's out now in all of America as of 22 minutes ago. available for download here at the modest price of $9.49.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01K52TPSK/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1472628085&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65

>>9164929

The band called "SACRIFICE", one of the non-mainstream bands on this page lol.
they released a few demo-tapes without any info online during the 2000'ss, sound amezing.

>>9166034

Bought, cant wait till i get my CD +PV aswell for my justice king cd collection

>>9165781
Yup they announced a new single after their performance at Nippon Budokan.
The new single is called 月下美人(gekkabijin), and it will come in 4 types.

>>9166217
Can you please stop calling bands mainstream just because they're relevant past 2010? It's pretty obnoxious.

>>9166228
Glad to hear it!! I really love them.

>>9166363
Fantastic, thanks for the info.

>>9166520

Yea me too, making a sexy underfall collection~

>>9166534
Alright, ive decided I will try to collect the discography of a band...hmm who will it be.

>>9162707
Do you happen to have more info on those guys?
Their website/myspace are dead even on the internet archive and their blogs don't say too much info about the band itself either. Name of songs, how many they actually recorded and released, anything.

>>9166620
thy changed their name to unFilnoir later on, they never released anything other then a live-distributed cd.
Besides that they had a blog up once wheere they shortly uploaded some of their music, but this got quickly taken down, wich there are allot of other bands of.
I uploaded 1 of the few songs i have of them, most of them are instrumentals.

If you like them you should also try out this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq8CC1JFYs4

>>9166547

JUSTICE KING/UNDER FALL JUSTICE
go ;)

>>9165061
Bless this comment.

>>9166739

One of my favorite visual kei bands aswell in this picture.

HAIL VK

>>9166748
>>9166752

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOtm0eZmunc

>>9166756

nostalgic, Parasite were awesome.

>>9166766

Omg, never seen pic like this LOVELY!
you heard their demo-tape? its great ^_^

>>9166773

it's been ages since I lost most of my digital vk collection due to my hdd dying. Can't remember if I had the demo.

>>9166777

Any way to contact you, would love to swap some bands perhaps or info, perhaps i got some things to have your interest in too :)
U can atm contact me here:
http://hakenkreuz2202.chatango.com/

>>9166766
>>9166777

Ah these picturess are not of the same parasite band heh.

>>9166748
Good for you, doesn't make me change my opinion though.

>>9165118
>My opinion is truth.

< 3

>>9165118
It hurts feelings. *btmm ssh*
Geez people can be dense sometimes.

A member of this band was part of X's lineup at some point apparently

If I still had the cookies I would delete this fucking thread. It's so fucking shitted up. Fuck all of you who want to censor aesthetic, you don't deserve visual kei.

>>9166920

THats why it has to stay open, more visual kei Comone!

/cgl/ has become as SJW and offenable as Tumblr. Bunch of fucking sheep minded weaklings.

>>9166925
No, find you own way to enjoy it, I'm done being OP for threads. Have fun when nobody makes visual kei threads, cause ive been the only one doing it.

>>9166928

Why the hate, u posted underfal justice no?
its my second favorite band.

>>9166929
I love UFJ, i did post them a lot here. But I hate the visual kei fandom outside of Japan, because it's filled with SJW 'pansexual' 'genderfluid' overoffended retards. I'm done interacting with this fandom. It's a fucking problem these idiots can't stay inside if Tumblr. And every time I go to a concert it's the same way, fat girls who call themseves "they" or "he" and act like they know everything about visual kei

>>9166932
for me viual kei is something i can be passionated about, i can really love a style, but fo me its the emotion and feeling it gives me. a style i canfeel myself with, something i can enjoy without having to show it off to others or having it to be known or whatever.

you seem like a nice person, any way to get into contact with you, if you want ofc ^^
i feel like its something i should do heh.

>>9166932
>>9166928

chill, nobody really made a big deal, some people just are offended by military imagery, it always happened on western vk fandom.

>>9166932
That's why I keep my circle of VK friends very small. I don't like dealing with people who take VK to seriously. Just go and enjoy the fucking music. Is that so much to ask?

>>9166941
Yup, and its a serious problem. It makes us look bad. And dont tell me to chill.
>>9166938
I don't trust giving my contact info to anyone here, what if youre one of the anti-fan trolls? No way to know.
>>9166944
Fuck off, i'll enjoy it how i want. I can take it serious if i want to.

>>9166950
i dont know heh, i could be a troll, but i rather find good people to talk to and share my passion with, like i said dont if u dont want to, if u want to try i made a temporary chatango if you want to chat for abit ^^
http://tempo29494.chatango.com/

>>9166950

i was feeing my dog lol, ur fast offline

>>9166920
>Fuck all of you who want to censor aesthetic
lol you're still holding on to that hae?

Keep being biased. You don't have to like every little thing in VK, you know. So fuck you too.

>>9166982
Well you were nice but im done with this fandom
>>9167001
I never said you have to like it, but you act like costumes can jump out and hurt people. Complete autism.

>>9166950

tought youtube links where trustworthy enough heh. thanks for the talk tough, its nice talking to someone who has a love for UFJ aswell :)
Hope you have a nice day further, thank u.

>>9167003
You act like costumes cannot hurt people's feelings. Go wear a KKK costume in an American black neighborhood. Or maybe just straight up wear a Nazi uniform in Europe (real Europe, not the UK). See what will happen. If you cannot understand that these kind of things provoke people, then you are the autistic one, dense anon.

And if someone finds something offensive, it's not in your right to tell them they aren't. I'll happily wreak havoc here if people think they can hush my rights on that. I already said, I don't like it, because it hurts ~feelings~ the nice way. You could have left it at that, but noooo....

And how the fuck is it even censoring anything? You act like any of us who speak ill of Axis Powers WWII uniforms have signed up some petition to make VK artists stop wearing that. We haven't, we just say that we don't like it. And that's what we call: an opinion.

Now stop being dense for crying out loud.

>>9167029
You're fucking dense, you said images can hurt people. You never said "offend" or "hurt feelings". And if that's what you meant, fine, don't like it, but don't be a pussy when other people do.

>>9167052
Are you that autistic that you can't understand I didn't mean 'hurt' in a literal sense? Come on, it's called sentence context. But oh well, I'm glad you finally understand what I meant. And I've never said anything about people liking it. Not going to stop you, only judge you.

Are there still any active visual kei comm's on lj?

>>9166920
Most of the replies are from people defending nazi symbols

>>9167617

jrock market is still alive it seems

http://jrock-market.livejournal.com/

>>9160043
>>9160053

someone uploaded their music on youtube already.

Any love for these weirdos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nBfC0KfuIk

Anyone have advice for live shows? The etiquette seems different from western shows.

>>9164509
far right is fucking goals.

what is the current state of vkei fashion? these threads usually have a lot of cool information and pics about the bands, but i am curious about what fans are wearing these days. all my tutorials and inspo are years and years old.

Just recently learned about this stuff, well I knew about in some sense what I learned is that I actually like this visual aesthetics and I feel like I want to try it myself.
Pic what I like the best.
>pic related
What is visual kei akin to in western culture? How do I go about starting cosplaying in a sense. I know nothing about makeup or fashion I guess, what direction should I head to to start off. Sorry for all these newfag-ish questions, just have no clue in this.

>>9170063
Im probably not the best person to give an answer but, when I started, I sort of just picked a style I liked. I love a lot of draped clothing. So I started from there and just sort of built onto that. You can also get brand clothes that will work well. I buy a lot of Sex Pot Revenge clothes. But there are a lot of other brands out there as well.
As for makeup, just practice. Its all about picking something and just playing around with it. Sit in front of a mirror and just apply makeup. Eventually you will get something you like. Just takes time.

>>9166699
>Besides that they had a blog up once wheere they shortly uploaded some of their music, but this got quickly taken down
That's really a shame, I got to know them too late it seems.

I'm familiar with Croix Chevalier, I have been following Rumina for a while, and love most of the bands he has been in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YopfGNtPMng

>>9170914

yea i got 3 songs and 2 SE's of croix chevalier, sounds really nice.

>>9171505
Yeah, I'm really surprised about how little Rumina's bands last, and how little known they are, for the really talented composer he is.

>>9172349

Little obscure bands that only release a few demos and last for a few months are a staple of VK.

>>9172349
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxsSlrsuWeQ

>>9172633
this band had 2 demo-tapes, they sound oke, i really perfr his newer bands like misa.

>>9172002
gonna need sauce on that blouse senpai

>>9172967
>>9172977
Didn't know them, but already liked them.
They remind me a little of old Mario Child too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q52UyJoYIFY

>>9169909
You may have to let the staff know which band you were coming to see. Even if you don't have one in particular, just pick a band, as the band will get credit for you. You may stand in front for your band, but let other people stand in front for theirs. If you do not have a particular ban you're a fan of, then just enjoy somewhere in the middle or back. They will do all the furi too, so if you are in the front, it's wise to know the furi of your band. If you don't know it, then bluff by mimicing everyone around you.

And less but not least, if you are a girl and you want to get attention from a male VK artist: dress cute, rather than like one of them. They are still Japanese guys, and Japanese guys have a thing for cute girls. This is why all those other girls you'll see at the venue also look cute, rather than wearing the same cool VK fashion as their idols. When I went to the AREA for the first time back in 2008 to see some VK live show, I was so surprised btw that all the girls looked cute. My sister and I were totally dressed in cool VK style, and we totally looked like some outsider gaijins. Good times.

>>9164227
I loved a lot his songs into GPKISM, i have also him on FB but i didn't checked his posts since ages. Probably he didn't create anymore songs that were amazing after the disband.

>>9175790
Thank you! That sucks you had your outsider gaijin moment in cool VK clothes though.

Do you have any tips on where to learn furi? I'm starting to pick up some it, but I usually stand in the back so I can practice. I also stand in the back because I went to a live once where the bands spit on girls near the front and had awkward mosh pits where the musicians just pulled their fan's hair. I was not having that.

>>9177080
It depends on the band. Some bands upload furi videos to YouTube so fans can practice. I know most of the BPR bands do that. For other bands, just watch old live dvd's.

>>9177232

>tfw I think furi is silly and I'd never do it but I know most of the furi for bands I like due to watching live dvds a lot

early vidoll was really good, both music and looks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfJ9pKSZ7vw

>>9177310
Agreed. I think furi looks stupid and I hate watching girls make synchronized, half-assed "rock on" devil hand signs, but I also know what it feels like to try to entertain people who don't want to participate.

Well, congrats europeans.

>>9179471
I'm really hoping they do a world tour soon. I've been dying to see them for years now.

I've got a bunch of flyers from around 2004/05. Anyone intrested in buying?

If you're looking for anyting specific just drop a name and I can check if I have it.

>>9181132

got any vidoll, devil kitty or babylon?

>>9177080
Sorry for the late response, but you're welcome! As for furi, I guess what >>9177232 mentioned works. To be honest, I bluffed my way through by mimicking so far. At least when I attended the AREA another time with my friend to a concert of her fave band (I was only moderately fan of them). The first time and second time of going, me and the person I was with actually didn't went for any band in particular, so we didn't stand in front/did furi. It is a nice way to get to know some new VK bands btw. I would always recommend VK fans to go there and see some bands, even if you don't know them.

Oh and yes some VK bands do crazy things hae, I know you have this front row for headbangers, and whilst this one fan was arching her back over to head bang, the vocalist just stood on her back with his foot. The fan seemed to like it, though.

>>9180681
hnnnng I'm so jealous. My inner 13 year old still dreams of seeing Versailles. It's so nice to see them back together again.

>>9185813
Seen Versailles and Kamijo both once they are fucking amazing live.

>>9185874
Totally agree with this. Saw Versailles live in 2011 and Kamijo last year. They were amazing on stage and on top of that they are fucking nice to fans.

>>9185813
Hope you get the chance to see them live someday, anon, is a beautiful experience. Totally worth the money invested on it.

>>9180681
I'm really hoping they go on a proper World Tour. I'm dying to see them perform! I've seen Kamijo perform a few Versailles songs, but it was during his solo world tour. I want to see the full band perform them.

>>9187049
Totally agree.
I'm kinda worried about it since Kamijo had really bad experiences with South and North american promoters to the point he was forced to cancel various lives. Hope that doesn't discourage him from touring there with the rest of the band.

>>9180681
I'm European, and if they would come to my country, I'd visit their show for sure, but since they don't.. I'm not a fan of them enough to go to other countries near mine.

>>9187473
I would, if I got someone to travel with me or I knew people living there that would meet with me. Not really a fan of going to another country alone.

>>9186963
I saw Versailles live in 2010 and 2011, along with Kamijo last year. I agree, they are incredible to see, Kamijo in particular has the most amazing stage presence. I'm gutted I can't go to this next tour due to work commitments.

>>9187419
>Kamijo had really bad experiences
Every time I go anywhere near Anime USA with my Versailles shirt on at their con they talk so much shit about the one year they played there. Without fail, even if I'm at another con and AUSA just has a booth there with old staffers.

>>9177310
>>9177080
Speaking of furi.. my favorite band for it right here.
These guys are the absolute best live, seen them three or four times now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXSPOAN8XhQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZYXnkI9Nm8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svyTxnXsHd0
This one is my personal favorite and the first I ever learned.

>>9182130
Is this Takashi?

>>9187533
They talk shit about the con or about Versailles? What do they say?

What I meant with the bad experiences was about the cancelled shows in Brazil, Mexico and USA, thanks to whatever the fuck happened with promoters. I have only read details about what happened in Brazil, but wouldn't surprise me if it's the same deal for the rest too.

>>9187747
The con staff talked shit about Versailles. Last time I ran into two staffers at a booth they had at my local con, they both groaned when they saw my shirt and talked about how Versailles were divas and difficult guests because the year they played there the concert got delayed until midnight due to technical issues.
Believe me, I suffered through being shuffled into an emergency stairwell with 50+ other people for HOURS without a single word as to what was going on and the only people that did anything to help us in that hot-ass stairwell was the promoter for the band and DJ SiSeN who personally visited each stairwell (there were three I think?) that they had herded us into to get us out of the way in the halls. The staff themselves didn't do shit but happily let Versailles take the blame for what turned out to be a miscommunication with THEIR staff that resulted in a piece of audio equipment not being there for the concert.
The staffers I spoke to over the years have all but turned it into Vic McDick levels of "These guests were so bad!" legends regarding Versailles but I had a friend on press who was in the concert room the entire time and confirmed afterwards that it had been due to AUSA's staff not having the equipment the band had specifically said they needed and my friend's boss who was an audio guy and ran his own radio station ended up stepping in to try and find a solution.
The concert was several hours late and when the doors opened the ravers thought it was for them and staff made no attempt to convince anyone otherwise so it was a shitshow until the concert started because ravers were shoving their way up front ahead of everyone who had waited.
The band themselves did the best they could but I was pretty tired and cranky by then so I didn't stick around past Kamijo having yet another issue with AUSA staff not telling them shit and nearly destroying a girl's camera because he was under the assumption that NO PHOTOGRAPHY was allowed as -c

>>9187419
Well the cancelled NYC show was caused by the Mexican Promoter. They cut contact with the American Promoter a week before the show. Then the Mexican Promoter just cancelled the show because apparently they didn't sell enough tickets. But from what I've heard from fans, plenty of tickets were sold, and there was no reason to cancel the shows.

>>9187774
the band had requested but once again AUSA decided otherwise and didn't tell the band that they were allowed press photography for the first few songs so Kamijo went into the audience and snatched a girl's camera from her within the first two songs. He was visibly pissed off since they filmed the whole thing on the big screen.
From what I heard later on from the promoter (that I knew casually) and my press friend, they had no idea photography had been allowed for short time and weren't told until after and they felt really bad and brought the girl back to their suite and apologized properly and did an interview for her since she had gotten a press badge for some sort of project she was working on? She confirmed later on that it had been a misunderstanding and she didn't blame them and had been super excited to meet everyone.
The band also stuck around after the concert which was well past 12-1am at that point and signed autographs even though they looked exhausted. I vividly remember it because it was just a bit before Jasmine You died and they looked so thrilled to meet everyone and shook everyone's hands despite how late it was. Makes me sad just thinking about it since no one knew they were probably in such pain even at that point.

But yeah, AUSA doesn't really have the best track record back then with Jrock acts since a year or two after that I walked into a 12012 concert and saw maybe a grand total of 35 teen girls in there that didn't even cover 1/3 of the space that Versailles had filled before. This was also after what's his name in the group had been arrested for choking a woman.

>>9187774
>>9187783
Forgot to mention that after AUSA staff let Versailles take the blame for the rest of the con due to rumors for everything from "Versailles is refusing to play!" to "Kamijo says he won't sing until everything is perfect!" (which was sort of true, the band didn't want to put on a half-assed show where you couldn't hear the guitars) AUSA finally printed an online apology saying it was their fault after the band got shittalked online until the truth came out.

>>9187774
>>9187783
Is a shame this kind of bands and their fans always get the worst end of the stick with the organization.
Kamijo snatching the camera from someone in the audience seems to be a thing already. I have seen him doing it and it was both hilarious and terrifying at the same time. The fact they apologized to the girl is really sweet though.
Thanks for sharing the story.

>>9187778
Maybe they weren't expecting to sell that many tickets and didn't have the place reserved in advance?
That one happened to them in Chile for the 2011 World Tour,
Chilean promoter announced a nice theater for the live, and changed it to a small discoteque a few weeks before the show. Turns out they never talked with the theater's staff before. At least the show wasn't cancelled that time, but yeah, fans were pretty andgry and dissapointed and the band probably felt the same way too.

>>9187789
Really shitty attitude from the staff. Wonder what goes in their heads letting the people that are earning their money the blame and get shittalked.
I have heard that Kamijo can get a little annoying for the staff sometimes, he seems to be a little bit of a diva and wants everything to be perfect even in the smallest details, but you have to give the guy the credit he deserves, their shows are amazing exactly because of how much of a perfectionist he is.

>>9163305
I love that its four people with at least vaguely Native looks then someone with a completely different Venetian masquerade outfit.

>that one friend who always agrees to do a group costume for halloween then turns up wearing something completely unrelated

>>9187789
I noticed that Schwarz Stein was also treated pretty shitty when they went to AUSA as well. Nobody knew who they were, or even that they were the musical act. So when con goers asked where the concerts, signings, panels, or VIP event was the staff would have no clue who the fuck they were talking about. I had to help several people find the right places to go. Hell some people missed the concert entirely because they changed concert times. But in the end Kaya was so happy to meet his fans. I just hope he comes back to the East Coast sometime soon.

Is there a website that you gulls use to keep up with who is touring and where? I feel like i keep missing things because i forget to check the individual bands' websites, and then only see it when other places review them after. I know a site that does reviews of Japanese stuff that happens in England, but then i only find out about it afterwards. So is there like an English language blog/website that posts tour info of loads of bands and does the legwork for you?

>>9180681
Might do the London show depending on how much the tickets are

>>9187864
http://www.jame-world.com/us/schedule.html
I think JaME has been the go to for years after Jrock Revolution went to shit.

>>9187868
Thanks so much, that's perfect! I kind of dip in and out of jpop and jrock and so always miss announcements and tours.

>>9187860
>I noticed that Schwarz Stein was also treated pretty shitty when they went to AUSA as well.
Thinks like this make me wish I had a shit ton of money, so I could make a small bussiness as a promoter, just to organize shit correctly and treat these guys properly

>>9188280
If Tainted Reality could do it out of his granddad's house then so could you, anon. Live your dreams.

>>9188280
Im trying to do the same thing. I have a few friends who are interested in joining me.

Im just so sick of promoters not doing enough at a con to sell the band. Like, have the damn band at the booth to sell merch. Make con exclusive merch, and make sure everything gets done on time. I think almost anything would be better than what we get with VK bands now a day's.

>>9187864
I just purchased the tickets and while it might not be the same for everyone I paid 60€ for vip and the normal were 40€. Vip only contained early entry and bracelet but I'm not too keen on to wait out for hours in January. Kamijo vips were 80€ with meet and greet at the same venue.

>>9187567
The second furi is so cute. I hope I come across them at a live now. Are they Tokyo based?

I'm trying to learn Avanchick's furi now since I have a ticket to an upcoming show. I also have a ticket for Nocturnal Bloodlust, but I get the feeling they're not a furi kind of band.

>>9188622
They're absolutely fantastic and known for their charity work as well. They're constantly traveling being the love warriors from outer space as they are but it looks like they performed last month in Tokyo a lot. Here's their live information: >http://uchusentainoiz.com/live/ and they're headed to Osaka and Nagoya soon? Google translate is messing up the page for me, sorry.

I'd love to see them perform in Japan since the audience already knows the furi and it's a completely different atmosphere but they've performed a TON at a con I go to frequently (and now am a minor staffer at) and they've wanted to go back so I'm hoping they'll invite them again since it's been a few years since their last appearance. Aah, it'll be hard to be professional though because one of the rules is we're not allowed to interact with guests and NOIZ is an amazing set of guests who routinely just wander off in the hotel and hang out in the lobby and talk to fans and everything without hesitation. They also bring their own fans from Japan with them as part of a tour package? and there's always the same two hardcore girls with them that are sweet as they can be and gifted some NOIZ cosplayers autographed polaroids of the band that the band had given them.
The best part is during concerts the band's faces absolutely light up if you know the furi at their convention concerts. My friend and I learned the furi from the third video (Sentimental Dropkick) the first time they came and the leader, Angel Taka, got so excited and kept pointing at us the entire time and dancing with us.

If you have the chance to go see them, I 1000% recommend it because they are utterly fantastic. They tour their asses off going to the Philippines and a lot of other places like rural villages to bring charity funds and supplies to village children. They even had a song/PV about their toothbrush charity where fans could bring toothbrushes for children who had no access to dental health facilities.

Now this is interesting, an interview with Tetsu about his departure from Malice Mizer.

https://gunosy.com/articles/R8lCP

>>9189878
Is there a translation to this? Google gives an general idea but I would like to have a more accurate view if this.

>>9189997
Seconding this.
Reading google translations always ends giving me a headache.

>>9188734
That's actually really cool. It's nice to see bands making a positive impact on others. I'll have to check them out when they come by my area.

>>9191223
Let me know if you do because I'd love to hear about it!

>>9189878
>>9189997
>>9190189

Got a part of it translated (credit goes to Wandering Fox from -scape- forums):

Interviewer: And Malice Mizer?

Tetsu: Oh yeah, Malice Mizer. (Hahaha) One of the guys from my part time job was in it. He’s the kind of guy who cares a lot about his image so I can’t say where we worked. I was 18 and we used to hang out before that job. When he started working on a new band, he asked me, “Want to come sing?” I said “Yeah, sure.” and that world was created. It was fun, kind of like a culture fair. We made our own plans, because it was a completely unknown world to me. They wrote the music, and I wrote the lyrics and the melodies. It was interesting, like working a puzzle. We members were all good friends. Each concert was like a culture festival and I thought it was fun, but as we got more popular and when we decided on our major debut, I thought, “Is this the face I want to show the world?” On the verge of that debut, I ended up quitting, but pictures from back then keep popping up on the net… (hahahaha) So I guess the world is seeing that face anyway.

(cont)

>>9194101

Interviewer: And rise of the age of the internet…

Tetsu: I didn’t think this would happen. I might not have wanted to quit. (Hahahaha)


Interviewer: And if you hadn't quit, Gackt wouldn't have entered into this world.

Tetsu: I guess so. I had a feeling that I really couldn’t go on, though. The debut was this huge thing, but I was starting to think that the makeup thing was getting more and more shallow. Speaking to the extreme, there’s a band called KISS, but when they want to return to normal, they have to lose their makeup. When I looked at the other members of Malice Mizer, they were absolutely just like that (hahahaha) and I remember thinking, “I’m just so different from them.” I talked about it with the members and it was like, “You can sell well if you’re like this, but I think I’ve got to separate from you guys, and I should do it sooner rather than later.” That was 20 years ago. I haven’t really brought that up in interviews before. This might be the first time. It probably easier to just do it.

>>9194102
Thank you so much! This is super interesting.

>>9194102
Agreed. That was really interesting. I bet his "friend" who asked him to join was Mana. I wonder what part time job they had?

>>9194141

I actually think it was Kozi, and iirc it might have been a gas station or something along the line, or so I remember reading on some old interview.

>>9194144
That would make sense too. Thanks for the information!

>>9194145
don't quote me on that though, it's just vague memories, but at least I'm 90% certain it was Kozi, in fact they're still friends.

Also, Tetsu sounds fairly similar to Kaie, the vocalist from Matenrou (Kozi and Mana's band before MM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exOY7HTbN_8

>>9194102
>I might not have wanted to quit.
This was kinda sad to read. I still wish he hadn't quit, at least until recording all the songs from that era.

Thanks anon for getting the translation.

>>9195227

I remember reading an even sadder interview where Tetsu remembered when Malice Mizer was doing their first Budokan (I think for Merveilles), and he was working a night shift on some food place or something, getting wet outside because of the rain.

At least he's still doing music though, and the music he likes since he's the main composer for nil and junejulyaugust, but indeed would have been nice to have had Tetsu record the other Malice Mizer songs before he left. We got some of them san by Gackt (Ma cherie, Shi no butou), but there are a lot of other songs that are really amazing and I consider MM classics, but were never recorded professionally. At least we have a lot of bootleg recordings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTHIM5mGeaU

>>9195736
Yeah, that's exactly one of the songs I was thinking about, and this beuatiful version of Zenchou too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP5Yq9vvSwA

>>9195736
Oh, that is really sad.

It seems the members of Lycaon are back in a new band called Initial'L , and they will be releasing their first single in November. I wasn't a huge Lycaon fan, but this is still good to see.

>>9197130
So a Fall Out Boy fanboy, a Dracula LARPer, and a Kamijo impersonator walk into a host club..

>>9197438
This should be the band's official tagline

Kozi's been in the hospital a couple of days now. I think his twitter said it was due to a fever. But it just seems overkill to go to a hospital over that. Pls be fine, Kozi ;_;

>>9201574
Well, japanese people go to the hospital even if it's just a cold.

Anyone a fan of deathgaze (and other Ai works)?

>>9205422
Yup. What's your favorite? Mine's The Continuation.

>>9205663

I liked it but most of the songs on The Continuation I liked the old versions better.
I guess I like their earlier albums the most: Genocidal Freaks..., Genocide and Mass Murder, Awake.

>>9201574
>>9202362

Kozi tweeted he's at home now

>>9206083
That's good news.

Is King-show vk?

>>9207562
What a hivemind. I was listening to Never Ending Story yesterday and whas wondering if Fumihiko counts as VK.

Where is exactly the line? I can think of a lot of japanese artists that wear some sort of costume, heavy makeup or/and elaborate hairstyles, but have never seen them called VK.

>>9207635

I've seen King-Show featured on magazines like Fool's Mate and what not. But they seem to be from around the time VK was still in diapers.
Early King-Show was more punk/new wave/post-punk, then when Fumihiko joined they went for a more heavy metal route (while still maintaining their quirks thanks to Kenji). Fumihiko seems to be influenced by hair metal bands and glam.
Another band that has a glam virtuoso guitarist is The Alfee, an even older band from the 70s.

Also, King-Show was and still is a great influence for the angura scene. Bands like Mucc, cali=gari, metronome, etc are all King-Show fans.

I think the real label for King-Show would be "nagomu kei", since they were part of the legendary Nagomu label when they started. In general nagomu bands were the main influence for the angura scene. And is also said that nagomu gals are the predecessors of the lolita fashion. So it's all connected.

I'd say Kenji is one of the most visual guys I've seen.

>entire thread of splotchy, badly blended cakeface
>its okay because kawaii uguu japanese

i hate you /cgl/, for lowering your standards if they come from sunrise land.

>>9207660
>The Alfee
Yeah I was thinking about him too.
You have a really interesting point there. The way everything is connected to some degree makes it even more confusing to me, seems there really isn't a clear line defining what's VK and what's not. Pic related another ridiculously fabulous guy that could or couldn't be VK.

>>9208534
>>9207562
>>9207660
>the alfee
>king-show
>koshi yamada

I would have never expected to see any of these discussed on /cgl/ of all boards but I'm totally okay with it.

>>9210985
And I'm so fucking happy to find other anon that is into them. Have my favorite Koshi pic, always makes me happy.

>>9208531
post better vkei makeup examples pls

this is mostly a /mu/ thread rn

>>9208531
>Doesn't know there is a huge difference between stage makeup and daily makeup

>>9166813
>this band's name in my native language

"Hey anon, what are you listening to?"
"Junk."
"I can tell that much, but what're they called?"
"I'm fucking serious. They're Junk."
"Yeah but..."
etc

>>9213755

Their name is most likely because of Erwin Rommel.

I figured I'd ask here for help from fellow VK lovers.
Does anyone know of any taobao shops that sell a decent amount of VK stuff? dolly+delly has cute stuff but I'm looking for more.
Would appreciate any help!

Avanchick will be playing at Tokyo in Tulsa 2017 in Oklahoma, US.

>>9217499
That's great. Do you know if they have ever played overseas?

>>9218606
This will be their first overseas and US show that I know of.

This thread required at least one image of him.

>>9226548

Did anyone go to the "We Are X" premiere over in L.A. on Friday or Saturday?

>>9165049
Im out of the vkei loop for a long time, can anyone tell me who the pink haired person is?

>>9231263
That's Minpha from Pentagon

>>9231303
Thank you anon!!

>>9231237
I had some friends who went. They were telling me it should of been called "We are Yoshiki" rather than "We are X".

>>9231668
>I had some friends who went. They were telling me it should of been called "We are Yoshiki" rather than "We are X".

It is true though. A good majority of the focus was on Yoshiki. Everyone else was in too, but not to the extent of Yoshiki. Toshi talked about his childhood with Yoshiki, his leaving & return from the cult. I really would've wished that Pata & Heath spoke more since they only talked about hide & how long they've know Yoshiki for.

>mfw hearing Pata & Heath speaking a bit English & Japanese in movie
>HOLY SHIT THEY CAN TALK?!

>>9194151

With how Kozi and Yu~Ki have reunited with Mana for some of his shows, it makes me hope they reunite MM with Tetsu back as the vocalist.

>>9233160
Lol, there are people who were hoping Kamijo to be the next vocalist of MM because he performed with them also. MM isn't coming back.

>>9233325
You're right that they'll probably never put a new album, but MM has come back for live shows, but they're always missing an original vocalist. I wouldn't mind seeing Kamijo perform with Kozi, Yu-ki, and Mana. I'm jealous I missed out.

>>9169593
I need this vest. hoooooooly

>>9233360
>I wouldn't mind seeing Kamijo perform with Kozi, Yu-ki, and Mana
Same, he would work great for a neo-merveilles era Malize Mizer.
Not sure if that's what Mana would aim for though.

>>9233325

Just to make it clear, Kamijo never actually performed with Malice Mizer.
He did, however, participe on a session band o the first Dis Inferno (or maybe it was the 2nd), where Mana played drums and they did MM's Baroque. Kamijo sang along with Sanaka (ex-fatima/Moran), the reason being both Kamijo and Sanaka were MM roadies during Tetsu times.

>>9234780
That would be cool to see. I remember seeing MM live and there was a sign with information about Kamijo and MDM featured at the venue, but for the life of my I couldn't decipher the kanji fast enough to know what it meant.

>>9224109

his older band is better.

I only got into VK about 2 days ago but I'm just glad that I've finally found a way to sort of satisfy my guilty pleasure for power metal without having to associate with DUDE METAL AS FUCK LMAO: the genre

DARK INSANITY
To my knowledge, the very first visual kei black metal band.
Please give them some love.

>>9235032
Oops forgot the YT link
https://youtu.be/fMGYGybeRUw

Is this band popular? I like 'em.
https://youtu.be/25qHhiOSOrc

>>9235037
They aren't really popular. I know they have an ok overseas following. They are signed to V-Star promotions so there is hope they might come over someday. Also V-Star makes it really easy to get their merch

>>9235126
They have 100 times as many views as some bands I like

>>9235037
Surprisingly they are! They held a free show recently, but you had to reserve so they knew how many people were coming. They sold out! I'd love to see them perform, but their interviews are kind of hard to watch sometimes.

>>9236069
Hard to watch? Because of Keisuke's beautiful wierdness?

Who else here is sad about this band disbanding? #DicksOutForMelvel

>>9236899
Who is he?

>>9236994
Thats Yuichi from when he was in the Sound Bee HD.

>>9237437
Oh, thanks. Did he go on to anything else?

>>9237849
I dont think so. I went to look and couldn't find anything about him really. Sound Bee goes through members so often so its hard to keep track of.

>>9238087
I think they've settled into a comfortable and consistant membership, they seem to really love each other and the fans.

>>9239038
Is that Daisuki?

>>9239039
I meant Daisuke, DaiSUKE DARK SIDE

>>9239039
No thats actually Uruha. But I thought the same thing when I first saw the pictures.

I bought a COLOR vinyl, now I finally know the lyrics for FOOLS! GET LUCKY!!. The Piass also covered this song.

>>9240110
Meant to attach this picture.
"Hurry up time flies like an arrow
Don't spend any more time on such trifles, GET LUCKY"
Actually a really good message wow

Matenrou Opera anyone?