/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9138925

>>9138925

>>9138972

>>9138925
Yes it is. People are massively misunderstanding it and making ugly coorrds

Newfag reporting. What are some common mistakes or misconceptions to avoid in order not to be a menhera version of an ita?

The last thread devolved into something weird
Repost from last thread, various mehera things I've got in the mail

>>9138925
>Do you guys think menhera is starting to suffer from the same problem as larme with the infestation of western ruling?
No because there always were rules on what motifs are Menhera and what not.
>What are some common mistakes or misconceptions to avoid in order not to be a menhera version of an ita?
Wearing unrelated clothing pieces with medical accessories and/or tigh highs.

>>9139183
I have a vague idea of what this means, but is anyone willing to translate?

>>9139030
Since menhera doesn't have super strict rules like lolita, it's harder to fuck up. Aside from obvious things like not dressing for your body type or size, common mistakes include wearing every single menhera-esque piece you own regardless of whether they look good together, toning it down so much it stops being menhera at all, and not understanding what is and isn't menhera.

Tights/socks and accessories are good ways of incorporating menhera into an outfit if you're still building up a wardrobe. Makeup helps to bring the look together too.

If you normally wear darker clothes and don't know what to do with pastels, go for something like a black and white fuku with a syringe necklace, blood-drip tights and an eyepatch.

>>9139293

On the far left: Stars, wings and Magical Girl-like accessories.

Between the two girls: Overall-wise - Oversized.

Below this: Patterned Tights and Knee Highs.

On the blue hoodie: Text motifs are also popular.

Far right: Medicine and medical motifs.

Blue box:

And for others..

Unicorns and Pegasi and Mystical Creature Motifs.
Pastel Clouds and Galaxy Print Clothes
etc..

>>9138975
Anyone know where I can get this shirt?

>>9139031
Sauce?

>>9139350
At what point is there too much blood in a coord?

>>9139831
>being in this thread
>not knowing Shojo Kenjiyoku Kakumei
http://www.studio-8-style.com/shop/products/detail.php?product_id=1660

>>9139836
On which items? Most are from menherabusu

It's out now.

>>9139963
Someone remind me what brand this is Gain, reverse image search isnt helping

>>9139963
Someone remind me what brand this is again, reverse image search is failing me

>>9139980
Royal Princess Alice but it's irl shop exclusive right now.

>>9139990
Online release will be on saturday.

>>9139875
My apologies, I'm new to the site, thank you very much!

>>9139963
The dress for when you can't decide between the Abrahamic religions.

>>9139993
so glad I get paid every week now.

The new dresses of Hakuchum Tokyo will be limited avaiable online on Saturday too.
http://shop.hakuchum.tokyo/ (closed until that)

I will try to get the Word of Resignation OP.

>>9140725
And in case someone doesn't know the prices of their dresses, it's 26,000Yen each.

>>9139963
Anyone know what this is gonna go for?

>>9140725
Does this require an SS? I need to let me SS know if it does so they can nab it for me

>>9140819
>this
It's a whole collection with multiple dress cuts and the prices are up on their site anyways.
>>9140822
It does.

Sorry for being a newfag, but are all the translations of Menhera-chan available somewhere? I had a look in the archive but I can only get one or two pieces, maybe I'm just bad at searching.

>>9140885
Menhera-chan.tumblr.com (don't try to read it on mobile, it won't load in the correct order)
and https://m.imgur.com/account/menherachan/albums

You know how some threads have that thing they always put at the top (ex: otome thread, ita bag thread, taobao thread) that has information? Maybe we should put something like that together for menhera
I was thinking things like this:
>what is menhera (or gurokawa or other j-fashions we include)?
>links to articles about menhera
>where to read menhera-chan
>link to fymenhera's store list, or maybe make a detailed spreadsheet
>basic do's and don'ts
>common motifs and themes
Anything else?

>>9140972
sounds like a shit idea.

I like the concept of this print but I feel it will just look like a red gradient unless you see it very close up (source is karenim.thebase.in for anyone wondering)

>>9140980
I am pretty sure that's the point

>>9140875
I asked because I didn't see a price on the site but I'll check once I'm not on mobile.

Listen Flavor, now with 100% more engrish for Menhera.

>>9141036
Listen flavor is such a mixed bag on how accurate their English is. Sometimes it's stuff like this or the "journy to mars" shirt or it's perfectly fine like their poison apple shirt

>>9141005
JSK - ¥27000
Longsleeve OP - ¥28000
Shortsleeve OP - Shop Exclusive
Nurse Hat - ¥7900
Veil - ¥3600
Big Bow - ¥3600
Twin Bows - ¥3600
Tights - ¥3,900

Only One Size:
Lenght 92cm
Bust max 100cm
Waist max 87cm
JSK straps are adjustable in lenght, both feature shirring.
Material Decyne + Polyester

>>9141045
Do you reckon they have different translators or are they just constantly winging it themselves with google translate and occasionally getting it right?

>>9141057
They only have one single woman working as both the manager and designer, go figure.

Bad thing is that all of their upcoming prints are in engrish, "Rest In Peac"

>>9140972
You have good intentions but unfortunatly a lot of this stuff is still very up for debate regardless of how some anon's feel about their extremely strong opinions because someone else can come along and just say that their own opinion on what this fashion is actually more correct and the only thing people here are willing to trust is the fyeahmenhera info link.

>>what is menhera (or gurokawa or other j-fashions we include)?
gurokawa has been bitched about a lot in the past. for some reason menhera is seen as less edgy?
>>links to articles about menhera
mentioned above
>>where to read menhera-chan
as far as I know - it's translations happen in these very threads. I've never even heard of this comic until these threads.
>>link to fymenhera's store list, or maybe make a detailed spreadsheet
Now this is definitely something we could work on.
>>basic do's and don'ts
This is gonna cause a shitshow.
>>common motifs and themes
whatever falls under the mental health theme I guess - again, this is something that might cause a shitstorm if you go outside the lines even just a tiny bit.

>>9139859
When you start looking more like a bejeweled tampon. If you want a lot of blood go for it, just don't dress head to toe in red and go overboard with accessories- there's no need to tack on every blood-related item you own, the detail will get lost and it'll look messy and off.
If you want blood tights with blood necklaces and blood-themed clothes, that's perfectly fine, just make sure to include more than one color in your outfit.

>7 pairs of printed thigh highs
>tfw just bought more
i can't stop

>>9141036
>>9141071

Does Engrish really bother people? I 100% dont mind it and find it humorous to wear. I would/will purposely buy Engrish shit

>>9141079
I'm starting the spreadsheet, when I get it more set up, I'll invite others to help work on it

>>9141208
Nah but it is wierd that it still happens considering that Listen Flavor just turned 10 and it's still the same designer.

>>9141121
>When you start looking more like a bejeweled tampon.
I guess I should specify, at what point does it just become gurokawa?

>>9141298
Blood alone doesn't make something Gurokawa either, meaning without the guro or spooky motifs. When it's all only mostly blood without a theme it would only look like a murder victim costume.

namekujisalt and whoopingcough

>>9140725
Online!
http://shop.hakuchum.tokyo/

>>9139963
the bloody crescent moons on the left
i cant unsee pic related

>>9142137
Their stuff is cute but I don't see how it's menhera, am I missing something?

>>9142257
Newfag.

>>9142257
Because prints about suicide and sickness are totally not Menhera, forgot.

>>9142274
>forgot
Give up on posting from mobile, dude.

>>9142481
>confuses sarcasm with spellcheck

>>9142484
Thought they meant faggot.
Should've said "I forgot" in this case.

>>9142272
>>9142274
>>9142484
>>9140974
I'm convinced there's like one really bitchy girl shitting up these threads, samefagging and calling people newfags for no good reason. It's quite annoying.

>>9143050
> like one really bitchy girl shitting up these threads
Nope, it's multiple anons.
>calling people newfags for no good reason
How is someone not knowing the basic motifs not a newfag? More so considering that Hakuchum Tokyo is the oldest Menhera brand.

>>9143050
You sound really new.

Stop fighting, post menhera

>>9143149
I'd be sad if it's multiple anons, because that'd mean the menhera threads are full of cancer.

>>9143162
Nope, not new at all. I've probably been on this board longer than you.

>>9143171
We could stop fighting if anons like
>>9143050
weren't so autistic.

>>9143174
If you had been on this board as long as you claimed you wouldn't have made such a dumb sounding post.

>hurr I've been here 5ever ur the newfag XD

Way to prove my point.

I love menhera. I really do. But I hate how this thread always manages to repeatedly be one of the worst ones on the board

>>9143177
It's a fashion about mental illness, it's only fitting. Garbage threads for garbage fashion.

I'm not really comfortable with the bondage or more extreme (suicide and self harm) elements of menhera. Can I skip them and still have a complete looking coord?

>>9143191
No. Menhera is entirely about romanticizing those things.

>>9143194
HWC gtfo.

>>9143195
But it is. It completely romanticizes things like rape, suicide and self harm. You do realize stuff like that destroys families right? What would you say to a kid who's parent committed suicide if they ask you why the fuck you would wear a rope around your neck to be ~kawaii~? What would you say to the would be mother that bursts out in tears at your totes creative abortion coord because it reminds her of her miscarriage?

People who support menhera should be fucking gassed. You are all terrible people.

>>9143204
are you ok

>>9143205
Considering I'm not the one supporting a fashion that should land me in a mental hospital I'm dandy.

Great counter argument by the way, really floored my points.

>>9143204

>>9143207
>can't come up with a good counter argument
>better meme my way out of proving this person wrong

>>9143171
Isn't this considered not menhera cause she's wearing a shitty misty sky rip off?

>>9143210
>HWC samefagging this hard
Pissed again that your husband doesn't give you any attention?

>>9143177
Did you join the imzy group? We should have posts over there everytime this happens to a thread.

>>9143213
>wearing menhera-chan shirt
>not menhera
anon...

>>9143216
Yes I am part of the imzy group. It's pretty dead though

>>9143204
I watched my mom slit her wrists in front of my dad while they had an argument.
I don't get offended by bloody bracelets.
You're over reacting.

can people in the menhera threads not take criticism of their sick fetish? Why was my post deleted? It wasn't off topic or outrageous.

Reposting because mods are clearly fucking babying raging lunatics.

>>9143195 #
But it is. It completely romanticizes things like rape, suicide and self harm. You do realize stuff like that destroys families right? What would you say to a kid who's parent committed suicide if they ask you why the fuck you would wear a rope around your neck to be ~kawaii~? What would you say to the would be mother that bursts out in tears at your totes creative abortion coord because it reminds her of her miscarriage?

People who support menhera should be fucking gassed. You are all terrible people.

>>9143218
It's dead because people don't post.
Make a post bruh.
I'd ask for more people to join right now but hwc is definitely lurking so I'd rather not.

>>9143221
See
>>9143219

>>9143219
doesn't change the fact you should be gassed for supporting this fashion. just because you don't get offended doesn't mean most people won't.

>>9143213
>skirt of pic related
>Misty Sky
HWC, do you even try to troll or?

>>9143223
So because one person has an abnormal reaction it means most people are okay with your romanticizing rape and self harm?

>>9143225
Wasn't me. I'm a Lolita and I'm not retarded about prints.

>>9143213
Any pattern that vaguely resembles clouds on a blue sky is a Misty Sky rip off now, cool

>>9143224
>don't romanticize suicide
>you should be killed for not agreeing with my ideology!
So uhhh... how are you not trolling? Or are some kind of ISIL lone wolf?

>>9143231
>>9143231
>not getting the joke

So on top of being batshit insane you're also retarded and unable to comprehend irony?

>>9143233
>batshit insane
You shouldn't be the one to talk.

>>9143233
>expecting anons to read into a tone that isn't there
Sure you're not just backpedaling?

>>9143234
If you can tell me how I am batshit insane without resorting to taking obvious shitposting as serious points I'll listen. But you do not know me as a person, so all you have is most likely inaccurate assumptions.

>>9143236
I've told people to kill themselves on this board constantly, not sure how you aren't getting the joke.

Kys.

>>9143233
So you can joke about murdering people but people into the fashion are wrong because they're romanticizing suicide?

>>9143240
No, I'm encouraging people who romanticize suicide to kill themselves.

>>9143241
How are you rationalizing this?

Stop shitting up the thread before the mods decide to nuke it

>>9143243
Alright well if you don't see irony in it your IQ is probably room temperature and there's no explaining it to you.

>>9143239
>someone spending their entire life on a board only for shitposting isn't nuts
Ok, whatever makes you sleep at night, I guess. No wonder your husband doesn't want to give you any attention.

>>9143249
>entire life

I wasn't aware I was less than a year old

>>9143248

>>9143252
Thanks for trying to steer us back on track, anon

>>9143252

>>9143254
It won't work. I will keep coming back, I always do. and you all are so fucking retarded that you always respond.


also


Mods why do you delete my posts but not the other shitposting of people who respond to me or bring me up when I am not in a thread? you know that's why I come here right? they summon me

>>9143256
This is cool but how is it menhera? Or is it in what it says?

>>9143261
The whole print is like "Sick, Kill, Die, Blood, Poison, Slaughter" etc.

To be honest, I think there's such huge controversy on what constitutes "menhera" and what doesn't because it's more of a theme/motif than an actual fashion in itself. It relies more on statement accessories and imagery to get its point across than any one silhouette or specific aesthetic (unlike larme or Lolita). It's more relaxed in that sense, I guess. It can really be integrated with any style if you have a good understanding of how to apply it.
Any outfit with the right "feel" can be considered menhera.

Curious, what is the age range of menhera followers/wearers in Japan? It has no bearing on whether or not I'll wear it myself (probably will), but I'm curious.

>>9143303
I think it's generally like other j-fashions, where it's mostly young adults
Can't really see anyone under 18 wearing it, considered the bondage elements and that some of it is kinda "edgy" and parents wouldn't approve of it

>>9143303
>>9143317
http://fymenhera.tumblr.com/post/147045115907/do-you-happen-to-know-how-old-the-people-into

>>9143317
The fact that a lot of brands only seem to get sold at adult shops (like Techno Break Nakano) probably wouldnt help it either for teens.

>>9140980
Make the lines darker probably

Wow you guys are dumb as fucking taking the b8 like you did

>>9143613
>complaining about bait
>posting bait

>>9143614
>responding to b8
>complaining about b8 that's complaining about b8

XD!

>>9143614
I did a search for menhera on tokyofashion and only one post came up and nothing came up for gurokawa, what should I search instead?

>>9143621
are you searching for romanized spelling?

>>9143622
Yes, that's probably what I'm doing wrong. Using Google translate doesn't seem to work either. Maybe because it's slang?

>>9143642
Are you really typing menhera into google translator and expecting it to translate? Are you drunk?

>>9143644
It did translate. メンヘラ is what I got - I don't know any Japanese.

>>9143653
Are you literally retarded or just pretending?

>>9143667
Am i retarded for not knowing Japanese?
Anyway... stuff on tumblr is tagged with what Google translate gave me.
Guess I'll post stuff from tumblr even though I tried to get a better source.

>>9143681

>>9143681
>being this stupid

jfc

>>9143621
>>9143621
>>9143622
>>9143642
>>9143644
>>9143653
>>9143667
>>9143681
>>9143682
You guys know that tokyofashion.com never uses fashion names for keywords but only brand names, right?

>>9143693
To add:
Best example for that is searching Fairy Kei, they stopped using the names of styles in 2013.

>>9143686
>refusing to give any advice
>pure name calling
It's almost like you don't have anything useful and want to post anyway.
You're pretty suspicious right now.

>>9143695
>>9143693
Thank you, I never really use their site so I wasn't familiar.

>>9143701
You want to be spoonfed rather than use common sense to research. Stop acting entitled.

>>9143682

Would something like this be considered menhera? It's not pastel but it falls into that medical/sickly look?

>>9143712
Wouldn't that be annoying to wear tho? Can imagine it would slide down a lot.

>>9143707
Sorry but that's hideous

>>9143712
Monochrome is definitely accepted in menhera.

>>9143704
She hasn't responded. Clearly you #triggered her and need to apologize

>>9143725
Eh I like it. But I'm biased fir pastel vomit.

>>9143727
Isn't the point of menhera to be triggering at all times though

>>9143724
I think there's an elastic or lace up to keep it up

>>9143171
what app stickers do you think she used?

>>9143707

I honestly hate KG. I dont know how shes so popular. Her art is literally garbage

>>9144449
She originally got popular for those fuzzy bear hats.
>>9144438
They are single pngs http://p.twipple.jp/user/kam0ck0907

>>9144449
I agree, her art is tacky and there are much better artists to support who make cool prints and designs, especially for menhera since a lot of the prints are by small, independent, artists

>>9143773
I'd honestly be more concerned about the leather getting sweaty/sticky

>>9143191
Yes, sleepy/sick makeup and medical elements are fine.
>>9143725
I really need to make some of these.

>>9143252
sauce on shirt?

>>9145302
https://world.taobao.com/item/531963895394.htm

>>9145382
Why are you posting pictures of this girl on every thread to make the OP of the ita thread look bad?

>>9143614
I'm not into menhera, but sauce on that shirt?

>>9145402
Candye Syrup, they are a hair salon and don't sell their goods online.

Can one find menhera on Taobao? I've looked for a bunch of different terms and closest I can find iis fairy kei

>>9145534
http://fymenhera.tumblr.com/tagged/taobao
?

Looking for some bottoms that'll match this coord that will also ship pretty quickly. Checked ListenF and AC/DC Rag and didn't find anything the floats my goat.

>>9145594
Like shorts or a skirt? You've already got a lot of menhera items, you could just get something that matches in color?

>>9145594
probs a blue or pink pleated schoolgirl skirt

>>9145767
I'd prefer a skirt but shorts will work just fine. I'm having a lot of trouble finding something that matches that particularly tricky shade of blue; I was looking at some pvc/vinyl skirts to add a fun texture but no such luck finding something that'll ship soon enough.

>>9145770
Y'see I ordered a blue schoolgirl skirt but it wasn't the right color and it looked a bit awkward both with the shirt tucked into it and tucked out.

>>9145806
>tricky shade of blue
Looks like sax to me?

>>9145825
Fuck you. It's different IRL.

>>9145806

>tricky shade of blue

I dont know why you're being so autistic about matching shades, when you already have two very different blue tones.

Which in my opinion is totally fine, not all the colors have to be 100% the same. So just get a light blue aqua or sax skirt, jesus.

>>9145825
I mean it's basically sax but there are a lot of shades of sax. >>9145832 was not me and is very rude.

>>9145834
I actually picked a different choker, oops. What do you think of pic related if I make a lining for it?

>>9145840
Would look really good

>>9145842
uggggh I think so too I'm so close to ordering it but it's more expensive than the rest of the coord combined! Peer pressure me, gulls.

>>9145840
I need that top

where do I get it

>>9145858
You'd prob look like shit in it.

>>9145859
Tried to find it on the etsy shop but it looks like it's from a different brand and styled in. Sorry anon. But the shop is Michelle Uberreste on Etsy.

All their stuff is pretty friggin dope.

>>9145837
I figured. These threads are always plagued by a troll.

Honestly you're probably not going to get something that 100% matches right off the bat. With fashion hobbies you gotta keep buying stuff until you get something that does match. At least with online shopping. I've spent a lot on various items that didn't match, and I just saved them until I got something else that did. It's part of building a wardrobe.
It's also an expensive hobby and you gotta spend to get what you want.

>>9145869
ugh I know...it just sucks because I'm trying to get this look together quickly for a con. I could just say fuck it and wear the skirt I've got but I cringe at the thought of that.

>>9145876
No shopping malls near by?
What about where the con is?

>>9145880
I went ahead and got a holographic blue skirt. If that doesn't match to the mall I go.

>>9145840
That doesn't go at all with menhera, don't get that

>>9145840
someone took a wrong turn at uchuu-town

>>9145840
That's not menhera at all? Plus, unless the rest of the coord is plain, the skirt shouldn't take up that much attention

>>9146084
>>9146107
I would understand if it was for a drowning themed coord as it looks like seeing tru water but agreed.

Is buying from tokyo otaku mode worth it or do they bump up their prices?

>>9146271
>Is buying from tokyo otaku mode worth it or do they bump up their prices?
You don't seem to understand how resellers work, don't you?

>>9146288
ok then, so do I need a ss to buy directly from listen flavor?

>>9146294
Not for their Rakuten.

>>9146300
But I should add that their shipping is so expensive that it's cheaper to buy from Otakumode (their price difference is only 20 cent anyways).

>>9146155
Are you seriously calling that stuff plain?

>>9146313
I said exactly the opposite, learn to read

>>9146571
Anon is meaning the coord the skirt-anon posted.

>>9146155
>>9146107
>>9146084
Thanks for dissuading me. This is only my second menhera coord and I'm not used to working with a lot of color (I'm a gothic/kuro lolita most of the time). Unfortunately now I've got a holographic skirt that's still better suited for uchuu to match this coord, but I'll show you guys when it gets here and maybe it'll still work? IDK. I'm being really anal about this.

>>9146915
The skirt would go with one of these sweaters, anon
http://idol.theshop.jp/items/2594117

>>9147121
yaaaas thank you anon

>>9145858
Do it, those skirts are awesome

I've forgotten to post these recently but I got my samples from Vograce/other sources! I've already fixed up the rabbit (blood will be the same colour as the blood in the syringe etc) and the badges have been changed to the proper colours and CMYK mode! I'm very excited, I've never had my art on badges before!

>>9147744
You tried to ride the menhera hype train. Tried. The only person we're throwing money at is CC.

>>9147750
can you chill out? more original content is always good.

>>9147744
They look really nice anon, are there any that are black/white or just colors?

>>9147750
Don't be a cunt, these are cute

>>9147750
>implying that I'm even going to sell these or want yo money

>>9147754
Just colours atm, Didn't think about monochrome because most of my traditional stuff is monochrome so I got a lil crazy with the colours

>>9147744
nice ten count art book

>>9139031
Those syringe socks are real fucking cool. Source?

>>9143225
Source?

>>9147764
>Omg I don't want your money!
>Hopes anons will pity buy your crud
>Profit

>>9147793
Got them from memherabusu via an SS
I think they say "sin" and "trap"
http://menherabusu.thebase.in/items/2104201

>>9147813

>artanon doesn't even say anything about selling
>HOW DARE YOU SELL YOUR THINGS!!

reaching much?

>>9147802
https://otakumode.com/shop/573a78d3409e9be54352e141/Neographic-Angel-Sailor-Uniform

>>9147750
I'd buy those.
Are you on buying from cc for your wardrobe? Is she like burando to you?

>>9146644
And I didn't say that the coord was plain either?

I have 10 imzy invites so if anyone wants to join, email me and I will send you the screening questions for you to join! Things are slow there so I thought it will be a good idea to get new people in to make it more active.

I'm liking this style because I have a medical condition and every now and then have to wear a bunch of bandaids... Including on my face. It would be a fun style for those days.

>>9147813
>>9147750
Vendetta

>>9148280
imzy mod here! Thanks for doing this still!
I also have invites if anyone wants them. They gave out more recently.

Hey planning a coord to wear for helping out at the jfash booth at an upcoming con. the tshirt from kerashop arrived today. I need ideas for more accessories, hairstyle, and shoes. If anybody has any advice I would love to hear ;×;
Alternatively to the shorts I have a lavender school style skirt I was thinking about wearing instead but im not sure.

>>9145859
>>9145863

>Michelle Uberreste
it looks like she's a designer for lip-service, from her portfolio. Maybe try there anons.

>>9149908
i love this so far, anon.

https://youtu.be/iJiUFyEYa_A
https://youtu.be/x1U4qL3J460

>normie weeaboos are buying that one Menhera-chan one-piece from Listen Flavor
>they have absolutely no idea who Menhera-chan is or what menhera itself is

I don't know whether to REEE or be happy that menhera is getting exposure without protest from haters claiming that menhera is "problematic".

>>9139015
Now that you mention it, things only going to get worse with these shills.

>>9149964
That's not exclusive to weebs tho, a lot of people in Japan do the same when it comes to Menhera-chan. Kawaii-i made a report on halloween in Shibuya last year and a group was cosplaying the main characters and didn't even know their names but "it is popular on Twitter!".

something about menhera fashion seems so dated to me. not in a good way like "retro". more like it belongs in the early-mid 2000s.

not sure why.

>>9150024
Because it's edgy as fuck?

>>9150028
that might be it. the whole "fucked up hospital" thing just reminds me of shit on deviantart i used to favorite as a preteen.

>>9149993
Very true, I guess I'm just too used to people in the cosplay community being very serious about that kind of thing since it's so frowned upon.

I guess it's just funny to me because these people don't realize they're wearing a cute magical girl that self-harms to get her powers.

>>9150028
Like if jfashion as whole wasn't edgy.

>>9150512
Do you even know what edgy means?

>>9150514
Talking about yourself? For normalfags it is edgy.

>>9150532
Alright, it's clear you don't know what you're talking about. Blanket statements are never a good idea.

>>9150534
Newfag detected.

>>9150540
So are you gonna do anything but spout memes? I'm suspecting you're HWC.

>>9150541
Not even close but Menhera is far from edgy as far as jfashion goes considering that it's casual fashion.

>>9150543
Yeah, you for sure have absolutely no idea what context edgy was used in if you're saying that. Either you are HWC trying to stir things up or new to 4chan.

>>9150543
Anon, do you not know 4chans definition of edgy?

>>9150545
I understand the context but the OP seems to have confused it with all the Babybat and Creepy Cute shit that has been popular on DA for like forever.

>>9150553
So a fashion that involves themes such as rape, suicide, and self harm isn't edgy? You are HWC for sure. HWC shouldn't you be off sucking your husbands dick so he'll still love you?

>>9150555
>rape, suicide, and self harm
>implying you aren't HWC yourself
Seems like you forgot you are the only person that connects Menhera to rape when there isn't any.

>>9150556
But there have been many occasions when sex/rape has been used in menhera. CC even has tights based on an aspect of that. You don't seem to know anything about the fashion and claim it isn't edgy, that's why I suspect you are HWC just trying to troll.

>>9150559
HWC stfu already and CC doesn't have anything based on rape and no, shibari isn't rape.

>>9150560
That's why I added "sex". I even own those tights. I don't know if you aren't familiar with some of the more indie Japanese brands that put out menhera items, but I've seen sexual assault used in them as a theme before. I'm not the one being abrasive for no reason, that's you. HWC is iconically salty for no reason, just like you.

>>9150559
god damn you are dumb.

>>9150562
Why are you so salty?

>>9150561
>I even own those tights.
THEN WHY ARE YOU EVEN COMPLAINING.

>>9150561
>Japanese brands that put out menhera items, but I've seen sexual assault used in them as a theme before
Proof?

>>9150565
I wasn't complaining about menhera at all, I was pointing out that anon is being silly for saying the entirety of Jfash is edgy. And then another anon(or at least I assume another anon, probably HWC) started saying menhera isn't edgy, when it's one of the Jfashion styles that clearly is. I'm not the one telling people to shut up or calling people stupid.

>>9150569
>the entirety of Jfash is edgy
But it is.

>>9150568
I don't have it saved because I'm not the biggest fan of that theme but I'll try and find it to post.

>>9150573
Because it doesn't exist.

>>9150572
Not in the context that was used the first time "edgy" was brought up in this thread. I'm confused as to why that's difficult to understand. I really didn't mean to get such an adverse reaction in this thread. HWC has ruined any chance of opinions in menhera threads.

>>9150575
I will find it and post it anon, I just said that. It's not going to be right away though. Why is everyone so salty today?

>>9150578
Said the person who claims Menhera is about rape while it's not.

>>9150579
You are taking things out of context just like HWC always does. I said that it is a potential theme in it, not that it's menheras entirety or main theme.

>>9150583
You seem to confuse Eroguro with Menhera.

>>9150587
I don't know why the fact that menhera as these super controversial themes in it upsets you so much. You can deny it and say it is another fashion all you want, and say that it has nothing to do with menhera but it does. I really don't understand why you are so upset that you feel the need to be this salty on the Internet. HWC I beg you, please go to bed. You always ruin these threads.

>>9150593
Please show us any article, no matter if japanese or english, that lists rape as one of the themes of Menhera which is still foremost about health themes.

>>9150576
You're missing the point.
There is no way anyone on this board is ever going to look at this fashion as anything other than edgy because /cgl/ likes to pretend to be pearl clutchers.

>>9150598
Why would I go out of my way to find an article? How is rape not connected to an impact on mental health? Do you not see how it could be incorporated into the fashion? Hell, I've seen girls on here plan abortion and holocaust coords. Why is a rape coord so far fetched for you?

>>9150600
But that WAS my entire point, that menhera is edgy. And anon said it wasn't.

>>9150578
How does one depict sexual assault in an image? Like is there a speech bubble of a girl saying no?

I REALLY hope you aren't seeing a picture of sex and thinking it's assault because it "looks" forced.

Also remember this is a blue board, you better censor whatever porn you post.

>>9150601
Because you are shitposting.

>>9150601
>plan abortion and holocaust coords
HWC, did you forget that both was your own shitposting?

>>9150606
I've seen prints with girls in sexual situations crying and bruised. Bruised alone wouldn't make me think it's sexual assault related but when you have a girl crying in a sexual situation it's hard not to see it.

>>9150607
But so are you.

>>9150614
But how is it a sexual situation when there are no two persons depicted? There are lots of girls self-harming out of clothes.

>>9150613
Both of those things have been planned on this board. It's not unrealistic to see multiple people talking about things that have been discussed in these very threads before. I don't know why I am getting such hate for pointing out facts. I am not insulting the fashion, or saying anything negative about it.

>>9150619
Girls. As in multiple. There was a shirt in particular with two crying, bruised girls who were portrayed in a sexual manner.

>>9150620
Yet you still didn't post any proof that it actually is part of Menhera and what few westerners on /cgl/ do doesn't count, or else we may as well say ageplay is part of lolita.

>>9150614
>Bruised alone wouldn't make me think it's sexual assault related but when you have a girl crying in a sexual situation it's hard not to see it.
HAVE YOU NEVER WATCHED PORN??

>>>/gif/catalog

>>9150622
Oh god, two crying girls, must be rape!

>>9150622
Is this girl getting raped too?

>>9150633
I am trying to find the images. It was released by a Japanese brand and coorded as menhera. It's not like I can instantly access every menhera release ever put out. I am trying to find proof to back up my claim and I said I will post it. I have not insulted anything about menhera so I don't know why you would assume I am making things up to try and paint it in a bad light. I own many things from CC and listen flavor, and really love menhera. What I don't love is how absolutely shitty everyone in these threads acts when confronted with something they don't like. This is exactly why we have trolls like HWC.

>>9150635
>>9150638
>>9150634
This is a great example. It isn't absolutely insane to assume an image like that is portraying sexual assault. Especially since to most people crying and bruised girls isn't exactly erotic.

>>9150639
I don't know why you didn't expect this anon, Menhera threads are as tumblr as /cgl/ gets.

>>9150639
So all the shirts with bruised, crying, naked, fallen angels. which are popular in mainstream gothic, are about rape, huh?

>>9150639
>It isn't absolutely insane to assume an image like that is portraying sexual assault.
No, because that is from someone's porn, she was paid to do that. That girl has done other videos too.
How are old are you? Did you just turn 18?

>>9150639
Are you talking about the shirts like these?

>>9150646
>>9150645
I was referring to the image I described, not the image that was posted. I really need you to think hard as to why you are so upset with me and I would love it if you could explain it. I have not insulted the fashion, so why am I such a pariah? For talking about something you don't like to admit?

>>9150647
That's a good example of the sexual part, but not exactly what I'm talking about. There's one in particular I am trying to find that has a more forced theme to it, while that one is just sexual without the abusive elements.

>>9150651
Just because you *think* Menhera got themes about rape it doesn't mean that it actually does.

>>9150651
You sure sound like you're backpedaling.
since you suck at finding things because it's taking you a million years, can you describe what exactly in the image made it sexual assault?

Anons are mad because no one believes you. Myself included. I think you're deluded.

>>9150654
I refer you to when I said why is it difficult to see how someone could build a coord around the idea when rape is such an impact on mental health. It's been done, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

>>9150655
I am not back pedaling, and I have described the image. If you do not see how two girls crying, bruised, and pressed together naked could be taken to portray sexual assault I'm afraid for you.

>>9150660
>If you do not see how two girls crying, bruised, and pressed together naked could be taken to portray sexual assault I'm afraid for you.
Like I said, this is pretty common in porn. It does not necessarily mean sexual assault, it just means sex. Sorry you're not familiar with girls taking big cocks in their mouths until they gag and their make up runs.
You sound like such a fucking virgin.

>>9150664
Just because it is common in porn does not mean it isn't a fairly disturbing image. Once again, you have to result to insulting me and can't discuss this without getting offended. I don't think I have to defend the status of my sexual life to you just because you can't see how an image like that can be taken negatively.

>>9150664
Wow this post is cringy as fuck.

>>9150673
Go clutch your pearls somewhere else.

>>9150672
>porn is disturbing!
you should get off this site if that's your opinion.
There's some really awful stuff that gets posted to this site and some of it IS rape. Like do you even realize where you are posting if you are so against the idea of sexual assault?

>>9150606
That picture is so cute! Sauce?

>>9150672
Why don't you understand that in order for something to be sexual assault the persons consent has to be broken. Again, how is that portrayed in the image you are describing if there is no backstory given? You can't just use your interpretation of someones art as the what it means.
Obviously other people aren't interpreting it that way.

>>9150678
Just because I don't like the portrayal of sexual assault in menhera(and its there no matter how much you don't want it to be), I still love other aspects to the fashion.


Also, this is a blue board. I am not disturbed by all porn like you're pretending I am, but even if I was it's fairly safe to say if I was going to avoid it, it would be on a blue board. Since that's the whole point of blue boards, they're supposed to be SFW. I know you really want to be upset at something and I'm that something, but I wish you and others didn't have this strong of a reaction in these threads. So much more could get done if menhera threads stopped getting so freaked out every time a post they don't agree with comes along.

>>9150679
http://xoxomeltykiss.tumblr.com/

>>9150683
If you showed the image to people who don't frequent 4chan you would not get a favorable reaction. Most likely they would come to a similar conclusion to the one I stated.

>>9150686
It's because you sound dumb. Again, your interpretation is only your own. Just because you saw an image and thought it meant something doesn't mean it does.
You have yet to provide any proof.

>>9150689
haha, nah. I've worn some riske menhera stuff on the streets before. Most people are just like "ohh that's soo cool where did you get it" and then they get disappointed when I tell them its from Japan because normies are super afraid of buying clothing online.

>>9150691
risqué*

>>9150690
I am arguing that it CAN portray that. That it is a valid interpretation. I am not saying at all that it is the ONLY interpretation. You accuse me of being dumb and yet you can't seem to understand what "can" means.

This girl is getting raped you guise I can totes tell cause she looks like she is in pain while having the sexes

>>9150694
>I am arguing that it CAN portray that.
And people are telling you that no one else here has seen that which is why you need to provide some evidence for your case.

Why can't you accept that I'm not seeing this stuff as rape if you truly believe that it's not the ONLY interpretation?

>>9150698
But I do accept you don't see it that way, that's why I haven't said you are wrong or "deluded." I am not the one accusing others of being wrong, I am voicing for different perspectives. You all are trying really hard to be offended at this, you know?

>>9150702
>You all are trying really hard to be offended at this, you know?
Do you know what someone being offended looks like? Because this isn't it.

>>9150702
But because you see it that way it doesn't mean that Menhera contains depictions of rape while you claim it does.

>>9150709
But it does have images that can most certainly be taken as rape. You are the one making the claim that it couldn't ever be taken as rape. If someone displays signals such as crying and frowning and other signs of discomfort why would you assume someone is okay in the situation? Do you not know how to identify human facial expressions?


I honestly cannot fathom why it is so outrageous to have these themes when self harm, suicide, and depression are major themes in menhera as well. Why is it so absolutely offensive to you that you must deny the possibility at all costs?

>>9150715
Because Menhera is about things you do to yourself, you can't rape yourself.

Why are you taking the bait this hard?

>>9150719

>>9150721

>>9150716
But wouldn't being raped be an influence on self harm and rape? I keep asking this and nobody has an argument against it.

>>9150722

>>9150724
Self harm and depression* whoops.

>>9150725

>>9150724
By your logic, Menhera should have workspace prints because work makes plenty of people depressed.

>>9150724
By your logic, Menhera should have workspace prints too because work makes people depressed.

>>9150729

>>9150731
>>9150732
I don't think going to work as every adult is expected to do is the same as being violently forced into a sexual situation that will scar you for life.

>>9150736
>violently forced into a sexual situation that will scar you for life.
But that's not on any prints.

>>9150734

>>9150739

>>9150737
It is, but how does it not impact ones mental health? You're trying to talk in circles to get out of explaining how being raped would not impact your mental health. I keep asking and no one can answer.

>>9150742
Once again:
Proof?

>>9150744
Let's make a deal, I'll give proof if you can tell me how being raped totally doesn't impact someone's state of mind.

>>9150747
If you had any proof you would have posted it long time ago.

>>9150747
The cause of mental health issues is not part of Menhera. Car accidents cause mental health issues, getting someone close to you murdered causes mental health issues and so on but none of that is depicted in Menhera because it's not the subject.

>>9150748
Are you really expecting me to be able to instantly access every menhera related image ever to exist?

>>9150741

>>9150754
You've been in this thread claiming you have proof for many hours now, you had plenty of time to search.

>>9150741
What does it says?

>>9150758
I'm still searching, do you not know how many images the Internet has anon?

>>9150760
That's "the heart sutra" all over the skirt, the most emo thing in buddhism about how all in life is emptiness.

>>9150760
the red character is the character for death

>>9150763
This is exactly why everyone is pissed at you. Maybe you should like, stay off the internet or stick to safe stuff like facebook until you learn how to actually do things here.

>>9150772
I still wanna know why you're so abrasive. And I still wanna know why rape wouldn't impact mental health.

>>9150776
See
>>9150753

>>9150776
Well, rape has definitely effected my mental health. Maybe that's why I'm so "abrasive".

Also why are you replying when you could be looking for images?
I scrolled through a ton of fymenhera stuff earlier and posted the closest thing I saw to your description. I didn't see what you were talking about at all?
I'm thinking this image doesn't exist because you keep replying but still have no proof. So yeah, you're baiting and then asking why people are getting upset.

This is some fucking 2009 /b/tard behavior.
Like every post is you just saying "y u mad tho" in so many words.
You're being extremely irritating and then questioning why people are upset? Are you for real?

>>9150776
Your faggotery does impact everyone's mental health here in a negative way, does that mean that printing you on shirts does make them Menhera? No.

>>9150784
If you are this much of a bitch to anons for no reason you deserved to be raped. You aren't a good person.

>>9150789
NOW THATS WHAT I CALL BAIT

>>9150789
you reek of HWC

Good fucking job responding to the b8 again guys. This is why these threads are always shit.

>>9150812
Yeah but otherwise they would just stagnate.

>>9150821
Once I offered to create new content for these threads, and not a single reply. But somehow you idiots constantly take the b8 from people who just want to destroy menhera threads. You deserve it.

>>9150825
Please make OC
these fights are horrible
I just want us all to be happy

>>9141036
Shooting was done today so it all should be out soon.

>>9151017
....................................
She doesn't have brackets!

>>9151072
She also meitued the shit out of her face.

>>9151072
She got them removed at the 8th of this month as all her teeth finally were straight.
http://ameblo.jp/90884-1u1-90884/entry-12188523468.html?frm_id=v.jpameblo&device_id=3d4004cedf444e2f85e2c996629efaf2

>>9151082
Now she just has to do something about how grossly yellow they are.

>>9151078
That's a modeling picture of Listen Flavor, nothing she did herself.

>>9151090
I'd be insulted if someone edited a photo of me to that extent. She should be pissed. Her entire face is heavily blurred, teeth included.

>>9151087

>>9151092
Are you saying they aren't yellow? Click the ameblo anon linked and watch in horror at her butter colored teeth.

>>9151093
how is your comment menhera related

so where are the photos of non models pulling this off?

Some of this may have already been posted a thousand times...

>>9151282
You know that besides the Listen Flavor photos, there are no single model pictures in these threads?

>>9151327
Those thigh highs have always been so gross to me and I still want them.

>>9151356
I agree, depictions of rape are pretty gross.

Can someone dump some darker menhera? My folder is lacking and as much as I love the pastel stuff black is the warmest color, ya feel me?

>>9151363

>>9151364

>>9151371

>>9151372
How is this even slightly menhera?

>>9151380
Forgive me among the 30-some pictures I posted.

>>9151363
Is medical/guro themed stuff okay?

It's kind of hard to find menhera specifically in black.

>>9151393
I knoooooow it's depressing. I suppose I could go for some guro tho <3

>>9151362
There were only a couple pictures I've seen that are really provocative. That was one of them. There's only about one other picture I've really seen that was disturbing and gross in that sort of way. It doesn't seem to be a common theme.

>>9151394
I'll see what I can dig up. I'm pretty bored right now. I need some new inspiration myself.

>>9151313
okay i'll rephrase
how are you guys managing to pull this off?

Okay, found a couple things. Still searching for darker themed outfits so here's what I've found so far.

This one is a model photo... but it has black.