/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>9097650
kind of related:
FINALLY the organizers translated the 6.0 rulebook of Drachenfest to english... kind of. Still missing two chapters. and there are still german sentences in there and the translation still kind of bad. at some places but whatever.
http://www.drachenfest.info/df/index.php?article_id=50&clang=0

(and yeah, the rules aren't that good)

>>9097656
I hope to go next year. There is a large group of Odyssey refugees (it ends this year) want to. Not sure what kit i'd take however.

>>9097676
well, depends on which camp you want to go I presume

Two questions, one about DF:
1) Someone offered me a Sallet for about 40 EURO. Second hand. Should I go for it?
2) How much money for buying shit I don't need like armour and foam weapons should I take to DF?
Planning to buy:
-Gambeson
-Chestplate/Chainmail
-Bevour
-One or two helmets
-Pistol
-Shield
-A Cavalier hat
-Probably some clothes

>>9097656
The fireball still seems really OP:
Shields don't protect you, neither armor, so you directly hit on your life points.
A friend managed to really up his fireball levels, so now if he meets someone who goes through the chore of being heavily armored, he has more than enough time to burn the poor guy before he can do as much as close the range between them.

>>9097695
Looking at that list I would suggest all the money you are willing to spend. Anything you don't spend can go to the brothels or travel back home with you.

>>9097703
1.) without seeing the sallet in question I have no clue if it worths it or not
2.) That's a lot of stuff. Fuckton of stuff to be precise. Helmets tend to be expensive so you can easily go several hundreds of euro or if you want to buy really nice stuff you can go over a 1000 euro.

>>9097703
well, I personally never looked too hard on the magic part in the drachenfest rules as I don't speak german so it would be too much hassle doing magical stuff.
But here is the thing: you can bring your armour whenever you want, but you can do maxed out fireball only if you spend enough skill points on it while the armoured dude can buy magic resistance or more hitpoints from that. Or several other stuff.
Or just drink with a few other people while the mage doing all his studies so he will have friends who will avenge him after the mage killed him.

>>9097738
If you want to be able to fight, at least half you character points goes to weapon competences. That gives you only enough points for two more life points/ a small magic resistance. And your last argument don't stand much since the mage in fact has also buddies to protect him long enough to do his trick again.

>>9097741
you need only one weapon skill as a bare minimum, everything else can be backed up with IRL skills. For example polearm skill is enough. But you can maybe buy another one. That's hardly half of your skill points.
And while it is indeed powerful to throw magic around you are still can't do it continiously. So yes, one on one it can be powerful but still not game breaking. It's just makes mages high value targets, that's all. Especially in a game where there are thousands of people on the battlefield.

>>9097753
Well, i guess you're right in your assumption. It still feels really powerful for me, but maybe it's just a case of "Git Gud".

Otherwise, the firearms still confuse me, on some pages, it's just a Gust of Wind, on others it goes through armor. Does it only depend if your weapon can shoot something or not?

>>9097762
no clue. The rule of thumb is that someone do something to you in a big fight and it looks magically or firearm but not siege weapon and because of the confusion in the fight you don't know whatever the fuck that was you just simply go back from the front lines for a little.

meanwhile a few pics arrived from the previous weekends game. Pics aren't great although the game was good.

Few more of the Odyssey ones are done.

>>9097943
I really want a bardiche like that for my new larp character.

>>9098299
How do you even hit a guy with a Scutum?

What's your favourite helmet, LARPfags?

>>9098424
Burgonet, best helmet all years.

>>9098424
Depends on the call of action imo.
Looks? Visored full face or Great helm.

Practicality? Likely a Burgonet, Corinthian or Morion. (Kettle helmets got banned in our local system recently because idiots)

>>9098775
>(Kettle helmets got banned in our local system recently because idiots)
I presume some people just couldn't bear it that others look fabulous in kettle hats.

>>9098424
Why is this question has to be asked every time? Did you forget the answers from last time? Did our taste in helmets changed that much since the last two weeks?

>>9098778
Namely people buying cheap wide brims from ebay and then not having spacial awareness and crashing into people.

Some of them weren't even rolled edges so fuck knows how they got pass the refs.

>>9098781
>Some of them weren't even rolled edges so fuck knows how they got pass the refs.
refs usually doesn't check weapons in my experience. They do a few checks here and there but rarely check all the weapons and armours.

>>9098787
At fests its common place but the monthly mini larps are less strict I guess.

>>9093457
Oooh I'm going to Ragnarok too. I Might meet you. Are you flemish or french speaking?

>>9098299
>>9098297
>>9098296
>>9098293
>>9098292
>>9098289
>>9098284
Why so few helmets? Sadly I only see corithian here.

>>9098424
Theres no question in my mind

>>9098854
Oh, you've finally seen my message.
I'm french speaking actually, i guess you're flemish?

No sign of calimacil on prime deals. Pretty sure by this time last year they were all sold out.

So i did my first larp event 2 weeks ago. Friend borrowed me the weapon and part of the clothing, can you tell me which are the best shop where i can buy a weapon and the clothing with EU delivery??

>>9099321
Depends on which pieces you want, I find that different places have very different strengths. For example, Calimacil is the best for latex weapons, but their clothing is not very good.

Kult of Athena is usually pretty good, although it varies by the supplier. I've heard that equipment from Windlass and Epic Armory are usually not very good, so avoid those.

Hopping on all the Drachenfest and buying things question:
How pricey are things in Drachenfest? Let's say I want to get a Gambeson there, how much should it cost?

>>9099421
same price as in the online shops from the vendors who are there.

>>9099430
Ohh, great. I know some of the vendors who go there but wasn't sure about the prices they'll take. I'll keep in mind checking the indie dudes too. Thanks!

>>9099441
maybe if it's the last one or have a minor defect you can haggle a little but that's all.

>>9098888
Convenience desu I think. Most fight better without so choose not to wear them

>>9099452
Fucking autocorrect, I never said desu!

But yeah most just choose not to wear them in the arena.

>>9098888
>>9099452
This. IRL helmets are the thing you should be wearing above all else, but they're kinda cumbersome in LARP.

>>9099512
It's not autocorrect, it makes you say desu when you write the acronym of 2 b honest

Also where do you guys get weapons? I know calimacil but is there any other shop it's good to know?

>>9099532
There are a few business's in the UK that are popular (Light Armouries, Irrregular Props, Skhien Mhor) etc. But plenty of Epic Armouries, Mythlion, etc floating around too.

>>9098014
>>9097976
>>9097943
"America has bad garb!" Lol
Looks like its universal.

>>9098424
(pic related)

>>9099521
>they're kinda cumbersome in LARP.
Maybe if you're buying a shit helmet.

>>9099452
>>9099521
But its super easy to get open faced helmets and they add a lot more to a kit.

Plus wouldnt it give you more of an armor bonus anyways?

>>9099815
The Corinthian I got isn't cumbersome at all.

It's not bronze or closed as much as the ones seen in museums but it covers the spots necessary.

>>9098898
haha yes sorry I'm slow.
Yup I am. I asked because there's not many flemish speaking at Ragnarok and if you were, it would be easier to know who you are. This is only my second Ragnarok so I'm not sure I know who the condotierre are. My group and I are part of Le Mirroir des Fées. Are we friendly factions?

>>9099731
>>9099815
Most larps I attend discourage head hits. Rule is that you can only aim for the head if that's the only bit you can hit, for example they are turtling behind a big shield.
So with that in mind, a lot of folks don't bother with helmets. Also, at least at Empire facial/head prosthetics make wearing helmets unfeasible.

>>9099567
if you would have followed the threads you would know that it is universal. It's just the US have more shit and they put it in the front

>>9099863
What kind is it? Is the the one from the movie troy? This one?

Kult of athena has some pretty good brass helmets, they are open faced and look pretty dope

>>9099944
Shit forgot trip

>>9098296

Whats up with the armor in this, it looks really flimsy

meanwhile, moar pictures form last weekends game

>>9099948
It does on first glance but is surprisingly durable from what i've seen. I don't play the Greek faction at Odyssey so don't know too much about their kit. I just fight them!

>>9099985
Id love to talk to some of the people who have greek kits from there.

It looks like such a good event

>>9099982
sand snek?

>>9100003
not really, she was part of a girls only "mercenary"* band that was called "the cougars"

*they weren't really mercenaries, they just stole a lot of stuff and weapons and posed as, while partying as much as possible.

>>9100009
So then they are the "steal sneks"

>>9100026
nah, they are the cougars

>>9100027
they will always be sneks to me

>>9100042
you have a very basic grasp of biology then I presume

So once I get back from my trip in a few months ill be going to a new larp. Its a medieval fantasy one and I dont have much inspiration for medieval stuff.

Any tips for garb and pictures for inspo?

>>9100043
>he doesn't get it

>>9100067
I get it that some GoT characters are your waifus but that doesn't mean that everyone cosplays them.

>>9100068
>implying I have waifus
>implying I'm a guy

no man, I was just joking around about her looking like she belongs with the sand snakes, no need to get all serious about it.
Yes, I know cougars don't look like snakes...it was a joke.

>>9100087
>>implying I have waifus
>>implying I'm a guy

>>9099924
I think they have equal shit, its just in front.

>>9100054
The usual questions are budget, how much do you care about accuracy, does the game specify any details about period/culture beyond just "medieval", what do you have already if anything, and most importantly what sort of character do you want to be?

>>9099981
>>9099982
>>9099986
>>9099988
>>9099992
>>9099993

so much blatantly modern shit. Europe sucks as much as the US.

>>9100096
Alright I have like 1000 extra bucks to start with

I want to look somewhat accurate but will forsake it if its too expensive or time consuming to make.

There isnt too much beyond fantasy(as far as I can tell)

I only have greek stuff so nothing to start.

I mainly want to get a good base and generic mercenary gear until my character in game gets developed.

>>9099944
This one, nose guard can be adjusted. (It also fits well with chain under)

>>9100092
ok sorry


hungarian larpfag why are you always so serious

>>9100111
stop right there

>>9100107
>>9100096

My dumb trip always gets wiped... lord help me.

I dont want to play a wizard but damn those hats are fine af

>>9100113
Actually I'm more sarcastical but that doesn't translate over the internet.
But sorry if I ruined your mood.

>>9100111
Amazon right?

I feel as if you would benefit from a different corithian helmet. That one looks too big, although more padding would help.

To make it look better I would suggest painting it(greeks did it all the time)

Maybe try another style of helmet too like a chalcidian

>>9100123
I got sent this one from a ebay seller in india as a freebie review item. (Same way I got most of my helmets)

This was the first put on before i added some padding and tried it with the rest of the armour. (It's also the only photo i have wearing it hence the "big" look)

It's on the paint list after i've finished fixing my greaves and knee armour. May check out Odyssey at some point.

(That helm looks pretty sexy btw)

>>9099873
Oh, you're from Mirroir des Fées? For a second, i thought you were part of that flemish mercenary group in Port-La-Rafle, which is my nation.
Condotierre is just my title, it's similar to Mercenary captain. Otherwise, i would advise you to remember the De Cavallere, our family is going big!

>>9100098
Looks like we have a butthurt US fag here guys.
yes, Europe also have shit costumes and dicksword, but at least we don't promote that and don't treat those who put effort/money in their costumes as "Tryhards"

>>9100129
How did you manage to pull that?

What kind of armor do you have, like whats your main stuff?

>>9100113
I don't think he is like this all the time, but I guess he got triggered in to that mood by all of the shitposting in the previous thread.

>>9098424

>>9100307
What was up with that? I read through it rn....

Has this been common in larp threads now?

>>9100307
nah, I got used to retards on 4chan. If I'm triggered by something It's rather the people over here in hungary.
That and the lack of time until Drachenfest while I'm still isn't finished with a fuckton of things.
Have to finish the armour painting (it's mostly maintance, although gauntlets got new parts, so have to paint them too) and it dries REALLY slow as I doesn't use modern paint.
Have to finish the new jerkin too and the thread keeps tearing.
Still have to do a maintine thing on my costume too and modify the sheat for my dagger.
Also modify my tallerberret

>>9100316
ohh and previous weekend was a larp, this weekend is a local con, next weekend is an event where we go with our reenactor group, and after that I go to drachenfest so I really doesn't have enough time...

>>9097676
Odyssey is ending?

>>9100333
Yeah, they had put a definite end date for the whole thing, I think it's due to end this year, maybe next.

>>9100285
I did alot of work in uni for some yanks who paid me via Amazon gift cards. Got sent alot of review items and when the eBay larp boom started they carried over my details.

Free helmets for honest reviews and my larp group buy tonnes off the sellers.

Atm it's chain and plate. Working to get more but saving in between. Fixing up some old reenactment leg armour I got on the cheap.

>>9100316
Anyone else from the namefags/tripfags are coming to DF?
Will you be willing to meet up with a newb like myself? ;_;
Can you even meet people there? (It'll be my first time LARPing abroad, except Oldtown which is like a week before)

>>9100518
German larpfag will be there probably. So will be Sir Tristan.
There was one other anon who said to be there in the blue camp as the squire of the blue camp's paladin.
And probably another anon will be there who come to the landsknecht camp last year
And yes it is possible to meet people there, although it's huge so needs a little preparation, but feel free to find me in the landsknecht camp, or wherever you happen to find me. Or tell me where you will be so I can stalk you down

>>9100536
I'll be in Gold, in the group that replaces the GE as an international group. Almost ready desu, thing is I decided my character name is shit and I need a new one and it stresses me. Visiting the Landsknecht camp sounds cool desu, I'll probably recognize your set if I see you

>>9099991
Alas it finishes forever in August :(

>>9100243
right in the feels.

>>9100618
I didnt even get to go once

Rip

I always enjoyed the photos from it, looked prettt sweet


>>9100467
Thats righteous dude

>>9100666
Hail satan

>>9100977
Europe's garb is still shit tho fuckin wanker.

What is the best way to make larp friends online? I'm moving to Europe (mainly the UK) later on next year and am super excited to try out as many quality larps as I can before going back to Australia. I've joined a couple of groups on facebook but I would like to make some friends before arriving

>>9101044
Fools and heroes are a national group.

You can usually find a branch nearby and then go to whatever new ones you fancy on the other weekends.

Other than that, empire is always a good start. Just introduce on Facebook and you're set.

>>9101005
> I'm embarrassed by how shitty glorified american "Larp" boffer tag games are and need to reassure myself by jumping to conclusions with just a bunch of pics from one convention in europe

>>9100566
and of course there is also the secret /tg/ handshake

>>9101044
Where abouts in UK?
2nding FnH

So in case any of you carzy basterds is coming to Conquest of Mythodea, I'll be working in the Black Pearl, as usual. Present to me the secret /cgl-larp/ handshake and get a beer on the house. Pic related, it's the Pearl from a couple years ago.

>>9101005
stop trying to make confrontation happen.

Sort it on the field.

>>9099815
You would think! In my game, there's a knockout spell that isn't very rare, and players use it a lot. Helmets let you ignore knockout effects, though, so you would think more people would use them. But for some reason, it doesn't happen very much.

Looking to finally get a riveted chainmail shirt.

Is aluminum or steel better to get? The difference is about 20lbs, and no price difference.

>>9100107
Basic stuff I would recommend for medieval fantasy mercenary would be a gambeson, jack chains, and some sort of helmet. I think a kettle or open faced bascinet would be most historically correct, but since it's fantasy, you don't have to sweat that if you like something else. That should run you only a couple of hundred, so you still have spare money for other accessories or a particularly nice helmet.

>>9101463
Steel is obviously more accurate. It also looks and feels more like proper armour than ally-mail. Some systems like Empire also seperate aluminium and other "light" forms of mail from steel shirts, and give them a lower armour value.

If any of those things tempt you then get steel, if saving weight is more important then aluminium is the way to go. There is also the argument that why go to the extra cost of riveted over butted if you are getting aluminium which takes away most of the advantages of riveted in the first place.

>>9101455
Thats a pretty good reason to wear a helmet....

Plus helmets are dope

>>9101470
Im really digging the kettle helmet but yes a gambeson is first on my list.

Anyone know any good places to buy them online? Where did mos tof yall get yours? im not skilled enough to make my own really.

>>9101455
We have a knockout rule which everyone with a boffer weapon can use, helmets prevent that.

Hits on your head and helmet does not count, and since a helmet is larger than your head it will slightly reduce the chances of getting hit in the shoulder.

A metal helmet increases your armor value and can potentially give an extra hp.


And still no one uses them...


>>9101463
>>9101501
Aluminum is also more brittle.

I don't have any personal experience with aluminum chainmail but after hearing some people talking about the rings breaking apart I would never invest in one if I were to use it in SCA or hard foam fightning (like calimacil).

>>9100977
I'll miss it, but apparently Eye-Larp are running a Spartacus type event next year which i'm looking forward to.

So there's a local millitant game coming up (Think of Drachenfest but much smaller) and I'm setting up a small warrior group. Looking for some ideas for themes for a group of 5-7 people who fight together as a group.
So far I thought of going full-professional gritty mercenary warband vibe, but hearing more suggestions could be cool.

It's a fantasy game, so historical groups are great but not mandatory.

>>9101463

Butted steel is alright for larp. Butted Ali is like butter and it's only really good for show walking etc.

Riveted Steel is heavy and strong. Riveted Ali kinda takes away the weakness aspect. It's still soft but the idea of it being riveted is that it doesn't break as easily.

Chain off ebay is dropping in price because alibaba has overstocked it again though.

>>9101881
I'd say find a motive for your organisation and build it off from there.

A gritty pay master bossing around a group of hard bitten sellswords would be rad but if your garbs gonna be all shiney new and un roughened you're gonna look out of place.

Group of specialists could be awesome rather than "7 dudes with scars gnarled weapons and armour" that you see in some groups.

>>9100536
>And probably another anon will be there who come to the landsknecht camp last year

Damn right.

>>9102330

>>9102280
Specialists as in one is a top-tier rogue, master tactician, a metal-clad tanky dude etc like each and his own field of doing well at?

And motive as in like what is their goal? Or did I misunderstand

>>9102387
Is the blue dude in the middle the, well, blue avatar?

>>9102403
yep. broest of all the avatars. Second to none in that regard.
He is a cool guy, doesn't afraid to make fun of all the big guys either.
And his shrine is in a tavern. Also has a personal pool.
I mean yeah the copper one has her own slaves and sedan chair, and stuff like that but a personal pool with mermaids and stuff? That's way better

>>9101177
Mostly around Oxford, maybe London

>>9102401
Kinda, like you have the hard bitten leader who's seen shit you wont imagine. The secretive rogues who they found somewhere, The tank who's cased in armour not afraid of anyone. That kinda shit.

And motive as in, "What caused this band to form." Were they sell swords who banded together for more cash? Was it a tactical paymaster who saw gold to be made with a highly skilled group of mercs? Was it a necessity of the times to band together? Are they bonded together?

All aspects to build off.

>>9102387
It took me way to long to find you.

>>9102486
SOON

>>9102243
I had ebay chain, but I want to invest in something more long term

Strange question, but does anyone here have pictures of LARPers in Paladin/Knightly armours who use Kettle helmet for it?
I wann get a Kettle for my character but my character is some sort of Paladin and I wanna know if it works

>>9102674
>Paladin/Knightly
well, that's a little vague but I think I can find pics like that. Give me a few minutes.

>>9102674
is this knightly enough?

this one is more on the inquisitor side

in my eyes this guy is the paladin of DO NOT WANT

>>9102825
Calimacil Novice master race!
I'm not sure any of these photos work for me but they're very appreciated. If you have more kettlebros and it's not much work I could use some more.
Where do you even get all those?

>>9102839
my larp folder I collected during the years. And I can post more but I will be slow as I'm sewing in the meantime

>>9102839
I much prefer the Stark, myself, after fighting with both for about half a year each.

>>9102846
personally I like most my custom longer pirate balde with hybrid core

also here is a pic from my old kettle hat

>>9102877
and the "new" one

>>9102853
MAJESTIC.
This one is great, thank you so much!

>>9102846
Is there any major difference between the two?

>>9102943
well the problem with that pic is the guys in the kettle hats are more like squires than knights. But if kettle hat + gambeson combo is what you are looking for I have more of that (and maybe a jack chains on the arms can give a huge boost on the overal look)

>>9102946
I was talking about the dude in the middle. Was that a Sallet? I thought it's that kind of Kettle that has those eye slits thing

>>9103016
it's a black sallet. A sallet that tries to be a kettle hat.

>>9102861
more of this guy

>>9103042
https://dirty.ru/403524/

>>9102904
What is happening in this picture.

Anybody got more pics of chaos warrior cosplay?

>>9102883
pretty sexy dude

anyways I know I wasnt going to come back but here goes my apology...still will be lurking though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R81WMBR44bs

>>9103575
>Kult of Athena armor
You'd die in a stiff breeze.

>>9102943
>Is there any major difference between the two?
The Stark has a slightly differently distributed weight, and more importantly a longer handle. Also, the crossguard is a tiny bit longer.

Guys, which European + Brittish webshop for larp items is overall best?

I'm trying to find an alternative for our groups starting equipment supplier, we've been using mytholon so far because of their low prices and wide selection which is good for our beginners to get gear from. But I've been looking for an alternative that has about the same service but overall better quality in their items (and of course with justifiable prices).

Battlemerchant seems like the best option that I could find through google, but I don't know how their items stack up in terms of quality?

Any tips?

>>9104039
Saxon Violence is quite good, and they have deals on offer for starting up LARP groups.

http://www.saxonviolence.com/page/group-offers

>>9101092
>I feel threatened by the yank who pointed out that european larps aren't as well garbed or accurate as my anecdotal feeling would have you believe! I should be more toxic!

>>9102861
Blatantly modern autistic symbology? shouldn't even be on the field.

>>9102883
New one looks much much better. your kit still doesn't feel complete though. you need tassets
>>9103619
His armor looks fine. and you didn't criticize the foam armor posted earlier.

>>9104072
>>9104076
Welcome back, you came again for a confrontation? Do it on the battlefield at least!

>>9104076
>His armor looks fine. and you didn't criticize the foam armor posted earlier.
You don't go sparing in foam armor, that's a given.

But there's some retards who get cheap kult of athena or other bullshit from online, then think "I can go join the SCA now!".

And then either the Marshal tells them to piss off with their shitty armor they wasted a grand on, or they get a concussion.

>>9104114
>guy makes a post to apologize
>gets even more toxicity against him

never change /larp/ never change

>>9104051
thanks but they only sell stuff that we have no trouble to obtain

>>9104039
Have a gander at this list. There's probably something on there that fits what you're looking for.
http://www.profounddecisions.co.uk/empire-wiki/Traders

Light Armouries are fully booked until March next year
Irregular Props are great but make sure you set a completion date and remind him about it.
Skhien Mhor produce some really varied stuff

Armour sorted my new Empire death worshiping salty knight. I will be resusing my old chestplate/tassets but they will be under surcoat. I am crewing for the rest of the year so this is my RnR character so trying PU armour for first time.

>>9104199
thanks, hopefully those brittish shops aren't gonna get taxed any time soon!

>>9104288
That looks really nice. Most PU armor I've seen has looked somewhere around Halloween costume-tier.

>>9103575
>that messer
Rawlings, right? Gives me flashbacks to before I snagged a proper gorget and gloves.

>>9104086
if i were in europe i would happily.

>>9104114
>>9102387
Foam armor.

explain why his armor is bad because its cheap. I see starter helms for 70 dollars. His klapp looks like it would hold up fine. infact the only issue i can see is that the chain is butted(and it might be welded i cant tell). Everything looks thick enough and properly constructed, he has a gambeson underneath.

if your only insult/complaint is "he bought it from somewhere i don't like!" then hes doing a good job.

>>9104159
it only gets worse from here.

>>9104288
>>9104114
Again. why are you worried about kniggas armor. while this armor here looks real neat, you can physically tell it was not meant for actual sparring. really seems like your singling the dude out simply because you don't like him.

>>9104553
On another note. if his shit is shit its on him, and hell learn the hard way and regret it on the field. no need to be so toxic though.

>>9104396
>Rawlings, right?
Yep, i got the 3 pommels so you can make it 1 hand, hand and 1/2 or 2 hand, I really want the metal parts though.
>>9104553
>chain is butted
unfortunately yeah but its only for dress up really or light "play" ive already had to make repairs just from wearing it around the plate stuff lol

>>9104553
wut?

>>9104553
ok i bite : " you can physically tell it was not meant for actual sparring"
it's a larp thread we don't care the stuff have to be pratical , and good looking , nothing else ...

and btw "Everything looks thick enough " that's the problem koa stuff is generaly too thick ,heavy and cumbersome and thiere cheap metal dent easily ....

>>9103619
>Kult of Athena armor
Literally nothing wrong with that.

>>9104816
Koa gets their stuff from a lot of different suppliers. Sounds like you bought something shitty once because you didn't do your research, and assumed it was all like that.

>>9104826
>you bought something shitty once because you didn't do your research,
lol what research i am supposed to do ?
i buy something either it's good stuff or crap koa sell it so if they sell craps it's not my fault cause i dindn't do resaerch

>>9104834
>What is reading reviews
>What is asking people for advice
>Blaming the distributor because you're too retarded to make informed decisions
This is bait, but I'm going to call you an idiot anyway.

>>9104853
they are responsible for the crap they sell ....

>>9104920
And you are responsible for the crap you buy.

>>9104920
No, Its your responsibility as a consumer to be smart about what you spend your hard earned cash on. They put it out there but dont force you to buy it. You chose that item and its your fault if you chose poorly.

>>9104076
>New one looks much much better. your kit still doesn't feel complete though. you need tassets
nah, at early 16th century tassets weren't a must have. They were on the decline actually.
Obviously they were used by the mmore wealthy soldiers, but as long as my cloths aren't made from velvet and silk I don't think that I dress as a wealthy soldier armour wise. Same reason why I have munitions grade armour (plus I like it)


Also, got back from the local two days con, I will reply to the rest of this shitfest that is going on in this thread later/tomorrow

>>9105055
if you can't trust (to some extand) a retailer why don't just buy at the sourceO_o

>>9105116
Its usually easier to use a retailer. the retailer gets multiple options under one shop so you have various options for what you want.

>>9105120
That, and because sometimes a retailer will ship where the maker won't.

At any rate, the point is that just because one person bought something crap from a retailer, doesn't mean that everything that retailer sells is crap; in fact, in my experience, KoA has more quality products than poor ones.

>>9104629
Tempting, but my club dropped those things the moment we could be reasonably sure we wouldn't crush any of the more delicate body parts with feders. Kinda sad, because I get nostalgic for sparring in sweats. I still have mine laying around in case I wanna just mess around without suiting up tho.


Also jesus fucking christ can we stop with the armor/KOA shitfest already? Some people can shell out hilarious amounts for SCA/HMB harnesses, others want to pay less and just wear shit to LARP.

>>9104553
>explain why his armor is bad because its cheap. I see starter helms for 70 dollars. His klapp looks like it would hold up fine. infact the only issue i can see is that the chain is butted(and it might be welded i cant tell). Everything looks thick enough and properly constructed, he has a gambeson underneath.
"Looks" means jack shit. What matters is the exact thickness and strength of the steel AFTER it has been forged and shaped. KOA is shit because they rarely, if ever, specify if the thickness of the steel is before or after making the object, so it's impossible to know without measuring itself. Starter helms are not "often" sold for 70 USD unless they're total shit, the typical price you'll get is 120 or so USD for a shitty cold steel 12 or 14 gauge bascinet with bar grills somebody made in their backyard. Visors are much more expensive. Finishing is much more expensive. A cheap shit bascinet from KOA is unlikely to meet SCA standards at all. My bascinet that I just custom ordered from a really cheap but good forge will end up costing me over 300 including shipping for 14 stainless.

>>9105405
>really cheap but good forge
completely unrelated but can you post a link?

>>9105470
Vijay Dass

>>9105405
is this SCA approved armor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CeZgCnk7Sk

>>9105405
>they rarely, if ever, specify the thickness of the steel
That's objectively wrong though. Virtually every helm and piece of armor I've looked at on the site has had it specified.

>>9104553
I've never quite gotten the hate for butted mail desu. I like the look better than riveted for certain kits. I do realize it's less sturdy, and I wouldn't wear it for live steel or SCA, but as long as you're not going to get hit with anything harder than foam the protective value isn't an issue. It's easier to repair if a ring pops, too, which is nice.

>>9105788
No, they say the thickness of steel. They don't say if it was the starting thickness or the end thickness. The end thickness is what actually matters.

So guys this is the story:
I'm a fresh larp player, the rulelebook of my association seems written by a chimp, it lack realiability and have a lot of functional bugs and we want to change it. So i came here to ask if you can link me the rulebook you use (high magic medieval fantasy).

>>9106051
The best lamps I've attended used rules light systems or where entirely mechanic-less.
That means that you can only do something when you can convincingly portay it. A lock is only opened if you have the right tools and look like you know what you're doing, a spell only cast if the ritual was impressive enough.

I find it hard to see the appeal in many rule heavy american larps.

>>9106051
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fegEm6sBD_TAs6HqO4LjnKn5_okXLN8no8ARoiSn7Jc/edit

>>9103575
First of all, you doesn't have to apologize for anything.
This is 4chan, you aren't just allowed to shittalk, you are expected to shittalk to some degree. The trick is if you start shittalking give an argument and reasoning. Feelings aren't them.
This is especially true if you want to say you are better than someone in anything.
Apart from that, everyone is allowed to be or an act like an idiot.
You didn't hurt feelings you stirred them by shittalking and never finishing it.

And now, for the rest of you niggers
why the fuck are you guys so focused on armour when half of you doesn't know shit about it and the rest have flawed knowledge on it and maybe 1 guy in the entire thread have any respectable knowledge on them, and it isn't me and neither Gropey.
I said that you can be as much a retard here as you want but some of you are taking that to the extreme.

My respect is close to zero for every wanker that tries to force SCA, HEMA and other kind of talks into these threads. If you want to talk about this all the fucking time and shittalk about other peoples stuff go and find a hema thread on asp or an arms and armour thread on k or just make one about it anywhere.

>>9106286
Its been so long without a voice of reason, thank you.

Now we can move on to larp stuff.


Anyone have any projects they are working on or thinking of starting?

As well as bags, i have to ask about bags. What do yall carry your stuff with around? Im not talking to and from the car. I mean when in character, i need some ideas of what works.

>>9106334
I'm fucking up my wrist way more than I should at this very moment by trying to finish the sewing of my jerkin. I used a way too thick leather for it and the thread always... breaks? whatever.
Also praying that the paint dries on my armour before the weekend because we have a "reenactment" event in the weekend (and on monday I go to drachenfest....)

about bags... look for old military leather map cases. Usually they are good enough. I have a russian map case, nobody figured it out so far.

>>9106346
How thick is the leather, it must be pretty thick to break it?

Those bags look pretty great actually... I want one now. I was too preoccupied with looking for new things made to look old that i didnt think to look for something old to pass off as something older

>>9106354
it's not actually the leather that breaks it, but the thread is grad A+ shit.
But it seems like I finally got a better one as this didn't break YET.
But the leather is 0,5 cm thick.
We tried it and it can reliably can protect me from glancing hits from steel swords on the front panel where it overlaps. Without any padding underneath it.

>>9106360
Ayy thats gonna be pretty sweet when its done. Do you have an example of what the finished product is gonna look like?

>>9106372
you can see there my previous jerkin >>9105090
and here too

>>9106087
>A lock is only opened if you have the right tools and look like you know what you're doing
>look like you know what you're doing

I mean in my rules-heavy Amerilarp you have to be able to actually pick the lock in question, but you do you man.

>>9106377
that said, previous jerkin was way thinner and sewed in a different way which is way easier but uglier.
(also fucked up the slashes a few places hopefully that won't happen this time)

>>9105876
I have never seen a site that does specify ending thickness, so unless you're calling most equipment sites shit, including a great many recommended to me by this thread, that detail buys you nothing.

Besides, as stated earlier, that's only a distinction that's important for SCA or live steel anyway, except in edge cases like 18 gauge.

>>9106334
I need to make a new shield, my old one started to come apart at the edge and I had been meaning to fix some other problems with it anyway.

Old shield was wood with foam edges, but some people didn't like that because it's "dangerous." I think that's dumb, but I don't want to fight them about it, so I'm going to make the new shield a little softer. Does anybody know some good materials for making a shield that has a little give to it, but still has a decent amount of weight? I don't want one of those silly ultralight six-foot circles that the Dagorhir players all seem to love.

>>9106474
>but I don't want to fight them about it
this is a good way to have more and more idiotic rules through the years. Sometimes you must stand up for what you believe is right.

I mean it's like the story of Jesus Christ. I bet that the soldiers wanted to stare at tits in the Colosseum all day long but they had a duty to crucify the shit out of Jesus.

>>9106474
also on shield material:
cardboard is surprisingly good if you give a little extra weight at the handles to it, you just need 3-4 layers of it and a strong textile cover.

Or ABS plastic, or other kinds of hard plastic that can be formed through heat, adding a foam and textile layer to it too (the textile here is more decorative)

>>9106286
Agreed, the HEMA/SCA nuts need to calm the fuck down and find their own threads. Because quite frankly if i'm larping I want what fits the brief/asthetic or what I think looks good, not some failed blacksmith wannbes wetdream.

Case in point my new larp project, i've got fucking skulls on my armour and the worlds most impractical cowel. Because fuck yeah tropes!

>>9106497
meh, not enough skulls.

>>9106503
It's a work in progress! Anyone know a source of some skull greaves?

>>9106508
local cemetery? But the best ones are in French cathedrals or so I heard.

>>9106508
Look in the towns and villages of your enemies.

>>9106433
Most SCA forges worth their salt give their gauges or thickness after production. Of course, SCA and other good standard forges aren't shit sites like Dark Knight or what have you webstores, but from the smiths themselves.

Well, I'm bored at work so here goes.

Hungarian, I'm pretty sure that you are the one who offered to give me some advice on this outfit a while back. I'll take you up on it. Everyone else is free to chime in.

There are several different iterations of this outfit, for use in various games, from SCA Heavy (the one pictured), Cut and Thrust, LARPS, and HEMA, to general cosplaying.

It's supposed to be a Landsknecht. But at the moment it's missing some essential Landsknecht-ness, and instead just evokes the general feeling.
Things I have that arn't pictured, which help the outfit along are my Tellerberret, Katzbulger, my neck pouch, and a Burgonet that I am purchasing soon. I will hopefully be able to find some pictures showing those items.

Things I need include more obvious slashing, more poofyness, and a codpiece.

How does it look so far, and what do I need to address to make it better, and in what order?

>>9103575
You seriously don't get it, do you?

>>9106561
Kneejerk suggestions are:

1: Ditch the leather bazubands and get a set of floating elbows, possibly couters, and vambraces.

2: For the love of god, new strapping on your body harness. Very obviously modern belts.

3: Paint/polish/blacken your metal pieces into a uniform colour (non essential, just looks good)

Otherwise, its a damn decent start. I really like the design of the gaunts, but they look very aluminum.

>>9106592

Thanks for the reply Gropey.

I in fact just acquired a (non-matching) pair of floating elbow cops at the most recent event I attended, and am very happy with them. I was searching for them because I agree, it adds a lot to the look. I don't have any pictures with them yet, but hopefully soon. Now to figure out hidden forearm splints so I don't get my arm snapped in half...because I want poofy sleeves instead of visible vambraces.

Yes, absolutely. Something else, period appropriate, needs to happen with the strapping. I like this because it was easy, cheap and secure, but it's so blatant it hurts.

What kind of paint do you suggest? I've been wanting to paint it black, in part for asthetic, and in part to combat rust.

I love these gauntlets. They are fingered in addition to having the very distinctive Milanese clamshell look and protection. They are stainless.

This picture is of me at a Cosplay thing, with some of the aforementioned missing items. I'm claiming to be an Empire Greatswordsman from Warhammer Fantasy in this one.

>>9106607


>What kind of paint do you suggest?
Hi-impact krylon (Rustolium has a good line) or automotive body paint.

>They are stainless
Must just be the light. I am totally jelly. Whos the maker?

> I'm claiming to be an Empire Greatswordsman from Warhammer Fantasy
Warhammer is best setting.

My only other gripe is your lack of plumage on your helm. Fix that shit. pick related.

>>9106618

Good to know, thank you.

I can't remember the name of the forge,I'll hunt it down though. They weren't cheap. But totally worth it.

I'm actually getting a new helmet soon. Pic related.

>>9106622
Sexy! Removable grill? Maker?

Where you local to?

>>9106627

Removable indeed. It's from Shamrock Armory, which recently went out of business. Stainless.

I'm in AnTir.

>>9106634
Thought it looked familiar. I am well aware of the whole Shamrock armoury situation. Jackie lives about 40 minutes away from me.

>>9106422
No, you're right that is the ideal, but sometimes when we are playing in actual castles we can't switch out the locks, so we do what is necessary.

>>9106592
nah i get it

*puts on his reenactment asshat*
>>9106561
shoe looks wrong, the slight angle on the toes weren't a thing, There is a reason it's called bear foot/pawn shoes.
I'm not sure about the knee socks you use, can't judge from the pic what material they are made of, other than that they are acceptable.
Slashes on the hose looks wrong, as in, you just put them there as an afterthought.
Can't see more about that pic, apart that the armour which is may or may not good enough.
Helmet is okay for some landsknecht time period but rather for late XV. (but then the hose wouldn't match it)
Gauntlet is okay probably (would hae to look it up later), and I can't see enough of the rest.

>>9106607
hose is wrong, can't fix it, you need a new one.
Hose should come up to your waist line and by waist line I mean to the bottom of the ribcage which is usually at around the height where your elbows are if you are hanging it next to your body.
Gloves doesn't fit the time period either, but I'm guessing there are practiucal purposes for that.
Same with shoes.
The white part of your hat (english name doesn't come to mind) looks strange. It isn't exactly wrong, but you could have made it better. I see you sew your tallerberret to it. It's not wrong either, but you could do a better job with it again.
Belt is too modern and wide. Wide blets weren't a thing either.
Can't tell more from this pic apart that the space between the two crossguards on the bidenhander looks very short but whatever floats your boat.

On the paint department I paint my armour with linseed oil (with a little addition of rape oil just for giggles and shit) mixed with very fine coal powder. It's a bitch to dry and put it on but the end result is a very nice texture and this is an authetnic method. You could add an egg or parts of the egg to the mixture, there are receips for that but I didn't tried it yet.

>>9106622
welp, that's an ugly as fuck helmet, but I presume it's because SCA rules.

>>9106928
Anyway those are all just from a reenactment viewpoint. For SCA and larp it's good.

A few more afterthought:
Can't see your doublet or shirt on the pics so I can't say anything about them.
Also can't see if the chainmail is actually a shirt or just a bishops mantle. (The later was more popular in 16th+)

Katzbalger isn't a must have, while it IS the signature weapon of the landsknechts not everyone used them, there are a fuckton of other examples from messers to various sabres, cut and thrust swords and sometimes prot-rapiers. if we are talking about one handed swords.
Also you lack a dagger. A dagger is important.

If you have specific questions ask. These are just the main problems I see but there are several ways to make it better, it depends on you which one you choose.

Also on pic, texture of breastplate while it was still a little wet. As I said in previous posts, I go for munitions grade look.
Obviously there are other ways of blackening every one of them has it's place and reason

>>9106497
Highguard/10
What weapon is that? Kinda looks like a horsemans pick.

>>9106921
Hate to agree with Gropey, but you really don't. It would have been better to save face, retire the name, and move on.

Instead, you chose to make a trainwreck of yourself.

>>9106334
Nearly complete on restoring the wrecked reenactment leg armour I picked up for the cheap on ebay. Just putting the clips on tonight and testing.

Canvas satchel for main shit but i got a leather back pouch for bigger events and general moving. It just didn't sit right with my old shoulder armour when I was moving.

meanwhile successfully finished the sewing of my jerkin which is an achievement because it needed only a very little sewing but it take way too long.
But finally the thread holds up, now I have to make it wearable fold it in some places and slash it up

>>9107009
I was just joking around but what dont I get? I just want to be a part of the cool kids club man. I dont have lots of friends or people to talk shop with around me.

>>9107435
>I was just joking.

Go away.

What happened to Knigga? Did he have some kind of meltdown?

>>9107435
well, then, welcome to the club, you already have your haters.

>>9107460
Big time. Talked big shit about his armor and how he beats the shit out of SCA and larpers all the time, fucking their women etc. He got called out by Gropes and such, who picked his BS apart and tore him a new one telling him why he'd full of shit to the last letter.

Then he made an "apology" video that doesnt really apologize and tries to paint him as the victim (spoiler: he's a toolbag).

>>9107435
Just stay in here and continue shitposting. It's all anyone else here does.

>>9107470
>Talked big shit about his armor
never did that just posted what I had
>he beats the shit out of SCA and larpers all the time
as I said in the video I made a few sarcastic trolly posts acting like some meathead jock hema/sca dude and it got blown WAY out of proportion.
>Gropes and such
glad you worship the great gropes i never said anything bad about him or anyone here btw
>he's a toolbag
this you are right about, we probably wouldnt get along even though we share a common interest. probs why i have so little friends outside of my career.

>>9107461
Fucking this. LarpThreads on /cgl/ aren't a bastion from the reeking, vile oozes of humanity who use facebook and forums, it's even worse, because of the /cgl/ elitism and backstabbing, where even decently-done projects/garb are horrid monstrosities posted that are even worse than Amtgarders wearing blanket surcoats and white athletic sneakers, unless you've done the proper amount of bowing and scraping before certain tripfag residents whose opinions should apparently be held as facts and should be respected solely because of their name.

But not Hungarian. Hungarian is one of the cool tripfags.

>>9107489
technically I'm just a namefag.

Also does the phrase "beating the nettle with someone else's dick" exist in the english language?
Because that's what some people in this thread is doing.
Against someone who even made a video apology.
I mean holy shit guys, do you expect him to suck your cocks too or what?

>>9107494
>do you expect him to suck your cocks too or what?

No, they wouldn't even be satisfied with that. Even if Knigga somehow managed to write an apology that perfectly match the script they had for him in his head, they would bitch at him for not sounding apologetic enough or something else exceedingly arbitrary.

>>9107488
Dude, I like you well enough, but please just stop engaging with people like this. This back-and forth with you, Gropey, and the peanut gallery is pushing the thread further into autism territory
Get a thicker skin, post pictures of your kit/events, and get into the rhythm of shitposting and eurojank.

>>9107505
youre right.

So this weekends project I want to make a norman kite shield and a heater with wood and canvas from home-depot.

My question though is what type of wood should I buy? I heard plywood is cheapest but is heaver than planks of pine. I dont really have the skills or tools to piece together planks of wood and there are so many types of plywood. Any idea of what type is best?

>>9107516
if it's for larp or SCA you can go with OSB slabs.
for larp 8-10 mm thickness will be enough. For SCA I would go a little higher but not above 15mm.

>>9107516
I mean, good luck with bending plywood into shape, kek
because you do know those shields should be curved, right

>>9107537
what's so hard about bending it to shape?
I mean it's work and everything but not rocket science

>>9106545
I think where we're talking past each other here is the assumption of SCA as the standard. SCA was never specified, or if it was I missed it. This is, after all, the larp thread, and for larp it's not an issue.

>>9107537
my *not so crafty* little brother did that once when he was 9

its not rocket science

>>9107541
it just strongly appears that OP has no sense of how to into anything
if y'all ask nicely I can try to translate a guide+tips on making a teardrop shield by one of the oldfags in our larp comm

>>9107516
Plywood is fine, really.
>>9107537
If you're going for total authenticity, then yes this a concern. But no one in the SCA curves their shields like that.

>>9107558
I'm an euro who has never touched or seen sca
curved is factually superior when it comes to actual defense, so I don't see why you wouldn't if you're already going through the trouble of making the shield

>>9106480
Cardboard, eh? I could get plenty of that, but most of it has folds in it already since it comes from boxes. Should I be looking for more industrial strength cardboard, or am I just underestimating how strong a few layers of box cardboard would be? Or does adding foam to that help with the stiffness a lot?

Textile shouldn't be a problem; I still have a large sheet of canvas left over from my first shield.

I hear you about fighting against dumb rules, but in this case I honestly don't care that much anyway. It's not even a rule, just some of the players who are extra cautious asking me not to get into very close combat with a wood and metal shield. And honestly, I'd like to worry less about accidentally knocking someone's teeth out so I can focus on fighting better.

>>9107537
>good luck with bending plywood into shape
Its super easy bro.

>>9107552
Knigga was going on and on about SCA.

>>9107558
>But no one in the SCA curves their shields like that.
What the hell are you talking about? Most shields are curved.

>>9106607
>Those gloves
My nigga. Same ones I have, they're comfy as fuck and very sturdy.

>>9107556
I know how to make one. Actually I know several ways.

>>9107565
needs way less work, easier to store and doesn't need as much tools. I mean if you don't bend it you can literally be done under an hour if you know what you are doing.
And if you are going to use it 5 times a year maybe you don't want to put more time in it.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't but I can see why someone wouldn't want to curve it.

>>9107578
well, you should get the wavey cardboard for boxes. in 3-4 layers, turning 90 degrees every second one. If there are a few folds here and there it's not the end of the word but try to avoid it.
Use any kind of paper glue, wallpaper glue worked really well for me.
Attaching the handles can be tricky depending on what kind you want but if two straps in it is enough for you then there will be no problem.

>>9107579
really? cause the guide I've seen involves sawing plywood apart lengthwise, gluing it back together and then attaching it to a tree for 30 hours using cargo straps, which I'd consider a somewhat advanced skill even just for the fact that a lot of people don't have a private tree they could use for this

>>9107585
I didn't fucking mean you, I meant the person who asked the original question
OP of topic not OP of thread (though those pictures of cardboard are making me almost want to revise my opinion)
and I don't see laziness as an excuse for things that could drastically improve your experience

>>9107588
I don't think that curved shields are a must have in a same way as fully authentic armors aren't a must have either. yeah sure, authentic armors function better and more comfortable but if someone just wants buy something off the shield it is understandable from a certain viewpoint. I won't recommend it but it's not like my kind of fun is the only viable fun to have

>>9107516
Anon who was talking about remaking my shield here. Mine was the same style, I used 3/8 inch plywood and found it to be a bit on the heavy side, but not unmanageable. I didn't curve mine because I didn't feel the effort was worth it for a little bit extra authenticity (especially since my larp is fantasy and my kit already combines several different time periods), but one of the sites I used as a guide had detailed instructions for how to curve it. If you like, I can provide a link in a few days when I'm home.

>>9107593
I mean yeah, ok I guess, I just really don't understand why people would half-ass it if they're going through the process anyway

>>9107516
Marine plywood is usually the wood of choice right balance between strength and weight.

A slight diagonal or a "upwards" oriented vertical grip work best and are the main historical way of doing it. Horizontal grips work ok but downwards vertical grips were made by Satan himself. You also want a neck strap that helps support the weight and allows it to be easily carried when not in use, make sure it's diagonal or it will never sit right on your back.

For the rim, nailing on rawhide with tacks is the quick and easy option but be aware that the tacks need to be hammered down good and proper as they can be sharp and cause injury.

Drilling holes about 3cm apart and then sewing on a leather rim with heavy linen thread or (artificial) sinew is the more authentic option but is a real pain to do and will eat your needles. If you go linen paint the rim or treat it so the threads won't break if they get wet.

>>9106996
It's an Epic Armouries Merc Warhammer. I liked the shape, wanted a second but they don't make them anymore. Took me fucking ages to find one, but I managed it. Short hammers don't really have much advantage over anything else in Empire, they do look cool though.

>>9107607
It's possibly the most time intensive part of the process, requires specialized equipment, and isn't necessary to produce something recognizable. Think of it like painting your armor, but more work.

Had some pendants commissioned for the new group. The came out rather well.

>>9105792
The hate is because the rings pop off from light movement. its a pain in the ass always having to repair rings.

>>9107479
this.
>>9107488
Don't even worry about it.

In other news, you're least favorite tripfag is back. Embrace dem post event feels.

>>9107614
depending on what hes making Aluminum sheeting could be viable. Also birch sheets work really well for shields. If he wanted he could do Birch sheets(super thin) glued together with alternating layers of canvas or leather.

>>9108002
Heres a few shitty pics from ragnarok.

>>9108004

>>9108006
my shitty peasant kit

>>9108007

>>9108009

>>9107537
they actually do steam bending at the home depot near me, I also could probably buy vice clamps and dyi it too.
>>9107614
thanks they have marine ply near me too. I heard an old towel can work for cheap inside padding. As for cloth I might use one or more layers of drop cloth canvas (the kind used to cover areas when you paint your house). For the rim I saw a video where you can soak those rawhide dog bones in water overnight and use those, alternatively people use garden hose but I would rather not.
>>9107594
yes please.

>>9107992
Never had that happen and I wore butted mail regularly for over a year. They popped off frequently from heavy impacts, but never from everyday movement.

>>9108012
Wait what state are you from?

>>9108007
Is that hat just waaay too small for you, or is this some ancient style from somewhere?

>>9108019
I'll take 10 minutes of fixing before larp day over paying for chain anyday

>>9108055
Southern California

>>9108058
Greeks had that style, not sure about other places


>>9108060
Oh me as well, although i spend half the year in greece. Im in greece till november, then I move back to socal. Which county?

>>9108062
riverside/san bernardino county. If you could point me in the direction of local LARPs that would be awesome.

>>9108064
Oh im the same, theres a few close by. I can think of dying kingdoms,which I am thinking of joining when I get back. Empty thrones is another, although check online some new ones are sure to sprout up since ive been gone. Although be wary last time I tried to join a group they told me that they had disbanded but then I go on their facebook and see that they had lied. Socal people can be kinda elitist, as you know

>>9108012
Soaked dog bones are a venerable method of shield making. Obviously you want the longest strips you can get without major tears, then once it's all tacked on clean it up with a stanley knife.

If you have a canvas layer on the back it can disguise the fact that the shield is not actually made of planks held together with medieval glue. It also helps prevent splinters and general untidyness should anything actually bust a hole in the shield. Wood filler and PVA should take care of any rips or dents earned in battle.

>>9108062
Straw hats appear again in the artwork during the early 12thC. Most seem to fit the head more closely. Although I'm pretty sure the Japanese wore hats in that style.

>>9108058
>>9108062
Yeah its greek style. They were selling them at the event, and i have to say it was an amazing investment if only to keep the sun off my neck.

Some buddues and me are trying to get into larping, but our only local thing is amtgard which we hear are terrible. We wanna help change things by going out and costuming well, but we dont know where to start. We're thinking padded armor/gambeson, some chainmail and helmets plus clothing would be a good start. None of us know how to make stuff though, so where would be a good plce to start? We're also considering a roman legion theme if we can make that look better for cheaper.

>>9107992
What the fuck piece of shit chain do you have that it pops off from light movement?
I've had a set of butted steel chain for a couple of years, and yet to notice any lost rings. And it takes a fair beating during Empire battles

>>9108385
as always, a mandatory must have is Medieval tailors assistant.
Even if you don't want to make all of your own cloths it has a lot of basics covered.
http://www.strony.toya.net.pl/~kuswir/MTA.pdf

Then you have to decide what you actually want and research it as much as you think it is needed.
It's really a fuckhuge and broad subject
Roman legion is easier in some ways, doesn't need gambesons for example but most of that stuff is for warm weather so keep that in mind.

meanwhile, completely unrelated: Just got a few photos from 4 months ago about one of my characters that some people just really loved to hate.

>>9108403
Aluminum larp chain, probably.

Is there any con to getting the longer design? The extra fabric wont matter much right? Im not trying to decide on these specifically, just the designs.

>>9108603
the overall design of the left one is waaaay better, more comfortable and easier for arm movement.
But if you are interested only in the sleeves if they are any better or not, that solely depends on the gauntlet you use with it. .

>>9108621
Hmm okay, im also kinda concerned with the buttons. Im worried they could come off. Do you know any good brands for a gambeson?

>>9108625
>Do you know any good brands for a gambeson?
home made

And don't worry about the buttons. IF they come off you can just sew them back.

>>9108627
Hmmm well I dont see any harm in trying to make one. I could give it a shot. What better time to learn how to sew then now

>>9108633
keep in mind, I never bought any kind of armour from any shop because I have a blacksmith and people who can help me make my stuff that I need or make me if I pay them.

On a related note, I still question my sanity when I decided that I make my new jerkin from a 0,5 cm thick leather

>>9108637
Well sadly I dont have any people who can help me here in Greece or in California.

Maybe some others can weigh in on this

>>9108639
Well, it's not that hard to make a gambeson.
And by that I mean it's not a complex work.
But it takes time and if you make a thicker one it's really fucking hard to work the needle through every layer by hand.
There are tricks to everything of course like using an awl, pilers and a hammer, etc but the only thing that you can really fuck up is the armpits.
But there is the option to make a gambeson with open armpits or detachable arms.

>>9108656
Well perhaps to start off ill just buy a cheap gambeson and use it for the time being. Ive been meaning to get into making a fantasy character for this new larp I found.

>>9108504
I actually like this kit of yours a lot better than your others. I feel like you need a hearty beard though.

>>9108985
This kit has just as many problems as the other if not more. As usual a lot of things had to be modified and compromises were made in the last minute to be finished.
Then again, it hides the chainmail under it pretty well.

meanwhile autosage and everything so here is the new thread

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>>9108504
Was it because you played him as a massive wanker?

Or was that some OC thing?

>>9110161
both

Ok, question for a friend... What is the skirt thing in pic related called?

>>9112882
Would it be some variant of a tunic? That is my only guess.

You all are better at this then I am.