/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I want to request old photo-shoots specifically. I really love seeing those.

I will do a small dump of some pictures I have in a few minutes. I have something I need to do first. Sorry about that.

I'm not a cgl regular, not really a fan of it, but I decided to start this thread because I'm feeling very sad and alone and I don't have any friends to talk to. I was hoping some vague human interaction and some happy nostalgia would take my mind off things.

Sorry probably nothing here is going to be new or exciting to anyone.

>>9101805
I love this picture, it looks like it's own magic world or something. I know it's not quite old school but it's close enough.

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>>9101812
These old shop pics make me so nostalgic!

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Does anyone have any makeup tutorials or references for old school?

I'm not a lolita but damn, these photos are really cool. They have a very cool mood.

>>9101823
I'll share all of the ones I have, some are better than others, they're all pretty plain

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>>9101824
I miss these sort of photos in Lolita. I know photoshoots are actually more common these days than they were back in the day, but they just had a completely different feeling to them.

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>>9101845

Does anyone remember the first picture of a Lolita they seen?

I can't remember what picture it was, but I remember that I went "oh that's really cool!" and then closed the page and found myself dreaming of it. I decided I needed to know more and see this style again, but forgot what the heck the style was called so it was about two months or so until I finally re-traced my steps and found the web page, and then from there I checked out EGL and was hooked. I sure wish I could remember what picture it was that I seen.

>>9101851
I've forgotten which pic was my absolute first, sadly, but pic attached is one of the first pics that I've seen that made me fall in love with the fashion.

>>9101851
Mine wasn't a picture, it was a KiSS doll. Either by Kimiki or Silent Angel?

Posting a recent purchase. Look at all that material! (Warning, massive image). Also just got a baby maxi pad headdress in the mail. Why did I hold off so long and where has it been all my life. (Side note if anyone finds a baby rectangle headdress made of velveteen link me please)

Now I just need some RHS and I'll be able to kick butt and take names. Never let old school die!

>>9101862
This is gorgeous. Just beautiful. Thank you for helping to keep old school alive!

>>9101860
Not sure what you are referring to, but you made me remember that when I first discovered Lolita, there was some girl who made "gothic Lolita inspired stuffed animals." They were cute but terribly old-school and would be called ita and unacceptable by today's standards!

Looking for an oldschool shortsleeved ladder lace blouse or something similar in white.

>>9101862
Gorgeous. Is that one of Meta's velveteen dresses? I'd love to get my hands on one of those!

On another note, I'm ready to old school it up at the BtSSB tea party at Mechacon! I'm really hoping that they will be selling some of their old school style items there. I love their classical series.

>>9101871
Ask the sales thread

>>9101862
Congrats, anon! I have this in black and can attest to how comfortable and flattering it is. Can't wait to see coords with it, that is, if you decide to share them somewhere!

>>9101851
It's technically a picture I guess
>tfw it will never be 2006 again

>>9101866
Old school will never die man. Now that I'm an adult with a proper job I'm tracking down the pieces my 13 year old self wanted, or just capture the "feel" I love. So lots of early-mid 2000s pieces will find their way to me.

>>9101875
It is indeed! Meta's 2004 series from this image set to be exact. Been lusting over it since I saw it in an English GLB. I got really lucky finding it!

>>9101885
It's so comfy, but crazy hot!! And a little big on me but that can't be helped. I'm rolling in the jelly of your black version. Black x white is my jam, there's a meta op from roughy the same era I'd cry if I got ahold of in black. I'll try and get coord pics, although it'll be six months or so before the weather is cold enough to wear it. I got it as a set (cape, bonnet, head eating bow, hair ties) so I was stupid excited. Might wear it for winter ILD.


Just to roll along the conversation, what do you consider old school wardrobe staples?

>>9101931
Oh! You must have got the one on Tokyo Alice? The green is such a unique color, I'd love to have that one someday, and I'm right there with you. Can't wear this OP for months and it's heartbreaking.

>>9101933
Heh. I did indeed snag it off there. Saw it and was throwing money at my screen so fast I didn't even realize it came with the bow/hair ties. I like the green too, but green or red velveteen feels extra Christmassy to me so I try and avoid those colors since they feel more limiting. The blue is a bit of a greenish navy irl, such a lovely color.

I think green comes up more often than other colors for the velveteen series, hopefully you'll get your hands on it someday!

What sort of old school / "lifestyle" activities do you gulls enjoy to try and keep that old school spirit alive?
Lately I've been looking into books that can rekindle the spark for me, mostly etiquette, home economics, self care / beauty, and recipe books. Does anyone have recommendations for me? So far I've really been enjoying "The Ladies' Book of Etiquette and Manual of Politeness" by Florence Hartley. It's on Amazon but you can also read it on archive.org since it's from 1873.

>>9101931
Ohh I so hope one day I'll eventually be able to afford tracking down the dresses my teen self dreamed of too. I don't have the funds for Lolita things right now so I've been trying to admire the details and things I love about the dresses I already have. My wardrobe is small and no "big brand" so far, sad poorfag here, but hopefully I can change that soon!

>>9101946
Ohhh this sounds super interesting, I'll have to look this book up later when I have the time.

While not Lolita, I occasionally visit the "Gothic Charm School" blog. There's some good stuff on there, even though a lot of it seems to be dominated by youngin's asking nooby questions. And of course, Lolita used to be more intertwined with the gothic scene than it is today, so I consider it kinda relevant.

Right now, I'm not doing anything overly lifestyle like that I wasn't doing before Lolita. Like my tea drinking or other artsy, romantic interests. I've been working on trying to rekindle my lolita spark a bit too, but I'm finding it difficult. Things are just different than they were back in the mid 2000's. Being an adult makes stuff harder. One thing I'd like to do is get some Lolita pajamas. All the nightgowns they sell at stores are so ugly I can't believe anyone buys them. Sleeping bloomers would be adorable too. I know bloomers are easy to make but I'm not good at sewing and I hate doing it. I made my own bloomers for wearing under my dresses and it was absolute torture.

>>9101931
I thought I recognized it! The red jsk in that picture was a dream dress of mine, until I found it and realized it had only an 82cm bust. I'll just have to settle for something similar, if I can find it one day. Velveteen is such a nice fabric... even if I could only wear it a few months a year!

>>9101862
Hnnnnngggggg

>>9101946
As far as lifestyle activities, I've been embroidering a lot lately. It's actually really fun, but I realize that I'm someone who enjoys really tedious activities anyway so embroidery was perfect for that. If anyone has any lifestyle lolita blogs pls share, I need more lifestyling in my life.

>>9101897
>2016 was a decade ago

>>9101851
This add made me want to try lolita

>>9102033
Oops someone already posted this exact image in this thread.

But for real the metamorphose velveteen series gives me a lady boner.

The metamorphose stripper heals came up on Closet Child with the last update and I had to buy them. They're actually my first brand shoes. I can't wait to do an old school coord with them.

>>9102004
My inner thirteen year old is being well fed. She's pretty happy desu. Hopefully you get to a place you can start feeding yours well!

>>9102035
I'm the one who posted the Meta ad. Let's have lady boners together. And review the shoes when you get them? I've been lusting over them but hesitant because of how hit and miss brand shoes can be. But damnit I want stripper heels.

I remember copying this nail art for my nails for awhile. Loved these nails!

>>9102120
Am I the only one who looks at these old Misako pics and thinks she's really... unattractive? I haven't ever thought of her as pretty or cute, but these old photos especially turn me away from her.

>>9102123
I didn't even notice that was her until you said something.

>>9102123
contribute or gtfo

>>9102133
Why are you so fussy? I'm just stating my opinion. It's not like I'm derailing the thread.

>>9102133
shit, I didn't realize that image was such poor quality. Also hunchbackin it big time.

Fresh out of old school photos now.

Is this oldschool enough for this thread??

>>9102145
>oldschool is ita xDD

>>9102151
I didn't say that, I was poking fun at Misako. Anon you're a baka ass faggot.

>>9102145
>save me

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>>9102035
Here's more

>>9102035
>heals
are you unseelie_allure?

>>9101851
I read an Anime/Manga/Games/Japanese culture magazine and there was an article about Shimotsuma Monogatari and Baby the stars shine bright. The first pick I saw was Momoko in her blavk and white coordinate, sitting in a train/metro looking a bit sad. I was really young, 12 I guess, and my mom showed me dresses from Baby's website and said I would get one when I would be older. She fell in love with them too. I decided that one day I would become lolita and I did. My mother don't like the dresses too much anymore tho.

>>9101851
I think the first time I saw anything lolita related was when I got to know about Malice Mizer and Moi Dix Moi. I think I saw a picture of Mana from a GLB scan, posing for Moitie. It was somewhere in the beginning of 2005 and that's how I got in touch with lolita. I can remember browsing the BTSSB website, looking at all the pretty dresses I would have loved to buy. But as a 13 year old it was impossible because it was either too expensive, and buying from Japanese sites wasn't as easy as it is nowadays.

My first 'frilly' dress was something by the brand Queen of Darkness or Hell Bunny or something. I later found out it was a replica-ish thing from something by Bodyline but hey. I was 13/14 and finally had 'my first lolita dress!!!'
I wish I still had pictures, since I coorded the dress horribly now that I think of it. I didn't had any accessories and Mary Jane-ish shoes where too expensive for me.

After that, I gave up on lolita for a long while but now I'm starting to love it once again. Maybe it's because as a 13 year old I never had the chance to buy and wear the dresses I wanted, that I'm now spending money on lolita. Honestly, I don't really mind if I'll never be able to wear a dress to a meetup or anything. The feeling of nostalgia in owning a dress is more important to me. And well, I love fashion, not just lolita, so some clothing items hold a big emotional value to me haha.

I don't have much pic's of my closet but here is one of my oldest items. I like the old AP tag and the build-in petticoat the JSK has.

>>9101842
Lol at this being considered old school

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>>9102144
Also not old school.

>>9101931
I'm so happy for you anon!
As far as old school wardrobe staples go lace topper OTK's and platform mary janes are my jam. Also rectangle headdresses in colours matching my wardrobe (mostly b x w).
>>9102332
Lovely piece anon!
What are other gulls favourite old school pieces they own?

Also could someone help me identify this angelic pretty dress? Pic related

>>9102361
Thank you!
I've looked online a bit but can't seem to find any OP that's even similar to the one you posted. I have the same problem with some AP items and my guess is that they might have been some in-store only items at that time? Hence the reason they might have never been posted on the old website.

>>9102383
Thanks for thinking with me!That might be it. I'll be getting the OP in the mail somewhere next week, so hopefully that will lead my investigation somewhere.
Also this IW jsk has arrived at my personal SS's house. I'm gonna live the black and white dream!

>>9101862
I recently saw this exact dress on y!j and was drooling, congrats anon, you're gonna look so good!

>>9102361
I happened to snag my dream dress and while it's kinda bordering the old school mark already (2005 AP) it has the feel I love in old school. I love the details but the simplicity in the same time. My heart almost hurts when I see the things I will never get on my dream item folder. They have the feel I'm not able to find in the nowaday's trendy items. I was lucky to get this dress in perfect condition, I haven't yet to wear it but I just adore the little cherries in the lace and all. Mine is sax, another impossible sax to coord...

>>9101862
That is beautiful, congrats! Would you say that the 94cm bust measurement listed on Lolibrary is correct?

>>9101832
I've always loved this look on Misako, she looks so cool without bangs, you can really see how nice her bone structure is too.

I'll start a dump now. Old school was before my time but I've always wanted to try it

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I really wish some of the other girls in my comm were into old-school. They're all either into OTT sweet or OTT classic

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>>9102345
pre 2006 lolita in all its forms is pretty much considered oldschool anon - it's not all platforms and rectangular headdresses, although those items have become its signature style.

Stuff like this >>9102141
is super oldschool, original fully formed lolita fashion if you like

Then you have early print looks etc like this from around 2005 >>9102144

None of it looks like current lolita fashion really.

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Please don't start arguing guys. Keep the thread chill and positive.

And yes, 2006 and below is consider old school, and I find it acceptable to post anything OTT sweet in here because modern Lolita looks very different than it used to.

>>9102033
It's one of my favorite Lolita photo's so I can understand why!

>>9102133
Anybody know what this picture is from? I am super fond of it.

>>9102324
It's cute to hear that your mom was into it too, even if it was only for a while.

>>9102399
This is so cute. And it's definitely old school! I love prints like these.

>>9102496
I with the Lolita community at large was more into it. My heart always sinks when I hear people talk about how ugly they think it is. New school Lolita is amazing, but I just don't want to wear it. In general, I'm not a fan of anything made past 2010.

Princess Portal made me fall in love with this dress/skirt. Sleeping beauty isn't my favorite fairy tale, but seeing how sweet and elegant this skirt is with it's castles and roses just won my heart. I'd love to fins this in blue one day.

>>9102538

Can you please tone down the cringy commentary?

>>9102538
Oh my god I'm an idiot. I mean to say anything pre-OTT sweet. Sorry.

Have another Princess Portal then. This girl was a huge style inspiration for me. All her outfits were simple enough for daily wear (as a lot of old-school was) but still well put together and lolita.

>>9102543
Sorry? I was trying to make conversation and be friendly.

>>9102545
How new are you?

>>9102547
Not new, just fucking retarded.

There was a photoset on tumblr of scans from a magazine featuring lolitas in their bedrooms, does anyone know what magazine/book that is?

>>9102550
They're from the fruits book and the gothic & lolita book

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I can tell.

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>>9102626
nothing about this is old school

>>9102626
Is this a recent dress? Or is the overlay separate? The overlay makes it look more modern, even if the rest of the dress looks old school.

On that note, how do you guys feel about combining old school with more modern elements?

>>9102643
combining old school pieces with more modern elements can make some really nice coords, but the coord won't be old school

>>9102507
This is so cute, I'd love to have it. I actually really like aprons, but I'd be a little embarrassed to wear one in public. Maybe it would be okay as long as it wasn't black and white? Oh, well.

>>9102564
I've seen this pic so many times, but I just now noticed how worn out her shoes are, holy shit. But they look oddly symmetrical, are they supposed to look like that? Why?

>>9102124
I'm loving that upper left picture.

>>9102667
Those shoes are supposed to look like that. It's an embossed design on the shoes.

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I believe I had this picture printed out and stuck in my binder when I was in 8th grade.

>>9102886
This is everything I want to be.

And that's all I've got.

>>9102643
I personally don't have a problem with it as long as it looks good. The older blouses are made of crinkly cotton which I don't prefer.

It's a little bit disorganised at the minute (photos I added recently haven't been put into the right places yet), but I have this imgur album of every old school picture I find, with a few modern old school coords I think are particularly good thrown in as well.
http://imgur.com/a/ij8db

>>9103562
Thank you so much anon-san!

>>9103549
I wrote a reply about how I find blouse to be important in the old school look and how newer blouses don't do it for me but my phone decided to shut the internet down as I was posting it. However, cutsews are a good alternative but the older ones can be really ugly sometimes. I wish someone made old school style blouses with fabric that didn't wrinkle so easily and was easier to iron.

This thread is always a huge inspiration, I'm so tempted to dress up! Unfortunately I live in such a place it's super unpractical unless I'm really going somewhere else. On the top of that my old little poodle is sick. Someday I will find all the old school poodle things for her memory.

I'm gonna post some outfits by brands.

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>>9103656
This must have been really OTT back then.

>>9103657
No blouse!

>>9103659
I wish I could be covered in those knitted berries too lol.

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>>9103662
And the last one.

>>9103590
What makes a blouse "old school"? I love old school blouses but I can never figure out what I actually like about them.

>>9103670
I think old school blouses often have a lot more lace detailing which is also like in the bigger role. Also details like full shirring and lacing are more common in old school blouses. If they have peter pan collar it's wider and sleeves are too. I think they are a bit looser too. Also material, they are often that wrinkly as hell cotton and lace are cotton lace too. Sleeves would be long, puffy or detachable and collar either peter pan or square. I actually think they are a lot fancier than blouses nowadays, except those princess sleeved blouses Baby makes.

I think it's just something that can't be put into words put you can tell if it's or if it's not. It's such a weird feeling.

>>9103562
You are awesome! Thanks for sharing

What are the usual going prices for old school Meta velveteen pieces?
I got a 3 stage frill OP that comes with a petticoat-ish slip skirt, JSK from the same series and also matching kc, all in the same blue colorway.
The OP is missing one of the removable bows on the sleeve though, but otherwise it's in pretty good condition. JSK is in perfect condition too.
I paid 18000 yen for the jsk alone, not sure how much it would fetch on the western market.
Should I sell it as a set? Should I trade it?
What prices would be realistic?

>>9103696
You paid way too much for the jsk unless you got it years ago as I have seen those going for like 5-9k yen on y!j easily. However, the velveteen OP will be worth more. I would say $95-135 for the jsk and 140-180 for the OP, though maybe not on the high end as its missing the bow. I would sell the jsk+ headbow or op+ headbow, not all 3 as sets. You can add a bit more onto the jsk or whatever if you add the headbow as a set.

>>9102361
Lace topped OTKs are on my list too! Sadly finding them is proving to be a challenge. I just need white, ivory, and black ones with nice lace damnit. Just got a black rectangle headdress, black and white is next.

>>9102404
I would very tentitively say yes but don't dream of pushing that number. And ideally be a couple inches smaller because as solid as these dresses are they're still old and the seams shouldn't be stressed.

>>9103678
I like the lace and sleeves of Oldschool blouses but my god do I hate wrinkly cotton. I've kinda resigned myself to finding newer poly/chiffon blouses that have an old school feel (sausage sleeves ect) because I can't deal with the effing wrinkles.

Actually can we get some Oldschool blouse inspo now?

>>9102626
Whatever this is it's now one of my dream dresses! Does anyone know what it is?

>>9102496
I still have the gosurori with these patterns, I always wanted to make them but shit I have so much inspiration right now.

I just bought this Meta JSK. It looks pretty early but does anyone know what year this is from?

>>9103780
Looks like BTSSB Millefeuille JSK

>>9103800
It sort of reminded me of the skirt from this fruits street snap

>>9103762
I tried to pick interesting ones. This is just plain white on tho.

>>9103823
This one was probably an inspiration for that quite horrible Bodyline one. The design is ok in it but the material is just plain awful.

>>9103825
The tie in the waist is weird, it's just a ribbon which ties back. Otherwise cute and those knitted strawberries are so cute.

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>>9103827
A similar collar as in the last one. Not sure what is it called but it seems to be popular in older blouses.

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>>9103831
I find the lacing in the front interesting. I wonder if it has buttons in the back.

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>>9103837
And a bonus, tacky Meta one. Feel free to request something you would like to see, I have plenty of these saved.

>>9103838
Oh my goodness anon thank you so much!! These are awesome.

>>9102511
ooooh, sauce on that blouse?

>>9102500
No shit. Except the Garden OP isn't old school at all, nor is the styling of the coord. 2006 is dated but not old school.

>>9103315
>frilly spats
Hildekitten pls go.

>>9104501
It was a decade ago anon. It's not "classic oldschool" but it's on the edge and not exactly offtopic if it's something that looks exactly the same as something from 2004. Pic related.

>>9102509
I like the colour combination and slightly different feel of the outfit here, you can feel deco-loli beginning to creep in.

>>9103800
You should post a photo of the tag when you get it; that will help estimate. They haven't had many tag changes over the years, but there are still some significant era signifiers out there.

>>9102404
I have the OP and can confirm that 94cm is the comfortable max on it. You can maybe go a little higher, but at that point it would be getting tighter to too tight.

>>9103800
>dat bottom lace
Probably between 2000 and 2004.

>>9105317
Old school was already a term in 2006, things could be old school in style still though but the Garden OP is not one of them.

>>9105422
Does the color of the tag matter? I recently bought a Meta dress which havea really old schoolish feel but I doubt it's actually old. Lolibrary didn't have it. Wish we still had Hellolace because it had so many pre 2010 dresses Lolibrary don't have.

>>9102509
Anyone know who this is? I recognize her and I recall liking her outfits, but don't remember who she is.

>>9106049
I think her nickname was/is CrazyKitch or something similar.

>>9102123
I didn't even realize that was her at first

>>9106079
Tried looking her up and can't tell if it's the same person or not, but I can't seem to find her "old0school" stuff. Maybe she deleted it? I'm really bummed, I was hoping to see other outfits and be able to properly source the photo. Thank you so much for the name, though.

>>9106276
I found her on d_l, it's definitely the same person. Her oldest posts are from 2010 and her style is more OTT sweet than the typical sort of old school you see in these threads.

>>9105771
The letter placement on the tag matters more than the color (I think there's only one or two color variations?). I have tags from 1999, 2000, and 2001 that all have the same lettering, and then pieces from 2002 where it's changed to be closer to the modern lettering. It's really tough to tell with Meta, but if you post a photo in the next oldschool thread then I'll compare it against mine and hopefully find an answer.

>>9106385
Huh, I couldn't find her on D_L, guess I better try again, but thank you so much!

>>9106443
No problem! Try searching for crazy_kitch.

Images maxed out, new thread >>9106887

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