/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>cute casual skirt from plumprimo

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/dreamv/item/519802/?s-id=borderless_browsehist_en

>http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/dreamv/item/520027/?s-id=borderless_browsehist_en

>>8984080
>>8984084
Thanks for the links, anon, these are so cute.

>the ita thread derail moves here
Calling it

>>8984084
I have this skirt and really love it.

I'm not exactly plussize but I thought this would be the best thread to ask this question in.
I have very large breasts and I find that whenever I put on a dress that's supposed to have a natural or lower waist, all of the fabric goes to the bust area, making it look more like a high-waisted dress, which is very unflattering.
I've tried minimizer bras and other ways to flatten my chest, but the problem remains. I have broad shoulders and a narrow waist, so without emphasis on my waist I look like a linebacker in lolita.
What should I do? Are there any brands, Japanese or indie, that have longer than average bodices?
I made pic related to illustrate my problem.

>>8984242
I have this problem too and I'm definitely not even near a plus size. I probably have a lot smaller breasts than you but I have noticed that push ups and longer straps helps a lot. I think my bust just sits kinda low?

>>8984084
Sorry for the stupid question but what are the measurements?

I'm plus sized (mostly due to my bust of 98 cm) and attempting to get into otome kei. I'd really appreciate advice if there is any or even someone to talk to it about!

>>8984242
DD cup here.

Adjust your straps so they're longer (move buttons, carefully handsew some similar fabric to the ends of your straps to make them longer and add the button) and lift the girls up. Use a good bra don't use a sports bra. I also used an underbust corset but didn't tightlace so I didn't get shelf-boob. I just used it for added support in combination with a good bra.

The waistline would sit closer to my natural waist all the time and my bust would sit fully inside an empire waist.

>>8984271
99cm busty anon here. I love ETC's full back shirring pieces. Comfortable and well-fitting even with my small minimizer underneath (because it makes my bust more proportional to my body). You can find otome-able blouses in high street stores and on Aliexpress/Taobao.

>>8984261
>>8984617
waist extender anons. No need to sew. Just make the straps longer this way.

>>8984057
>mfw there are tons of resources out there and listed already...

How new are you?

Id be interested in plus sized friendly blouses.

>>8984676
>>8984057

Let me help you newfags out

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Anw4aY5HpSLMdFViZ1M3WHMyeHdFazZHX3JNa3FvSVE#gid=0

Not to mention Beautiful Plus Lolita on Tumblr, Plus Sized Petticoats and Bows on Blogger/Tumblr, and the Positive & Plus Size Lolita Q&A group on FB.

>>8984661
Where can you buy ones like these? I only ever see the plastic or metal loop kind.

>>8984679
I'm not actually plus sized, I just need wider cut blouses for my man shoulders.

>>8984683
idk just google waist exetenders and choose a picture that fits your need and look if the website sells them?

>>8984635
Really? I was under the impression ETC wouldn't fit at my bust size so this makes me a bit excited! I was afraid the only answer would be to bind and I really don't want to bind for daily wear. Do you find you only need to wear a minimizer bra?

>>8984714
different anon but my ETC/Leur Getter full shirring dresses stretch to 100-110cm easily.

>>8984684
That Germanic feel.

>>8984917
This makes me so happy to hear. I thought i'd have to be strictly offbrand save for the occasional Mullberry/Peppermint Fox release

>>8984661
Honestly I prefer matching the width and color as closely as possible, so that's why I suggest sewing. If it's done carefully, there's little to no damage when removing it. But then again some people would say that just being larger damages the dress. So ho-hum whatever.

>>8984934
>some people say

It's a fact that if you stretch the seams it's damaged.

>>8984266
I'd like to know also, I can navigate Chinese thanks to the TB threads but don't know moonrunes.

>>8984271
>tfw to 120cm bust

>>8984945
What the hell, where did the "to" come from?

Also I have a back issue of La Farfa if anyone would like to see some scans.

>>8984945
Rough anon. I still think otome kei is possible offbrand like I had mentioned in my prior posts, just harder. If you ever want to swap tips or share inspo I'm down for it!

does anyone here have a wide frame, like wide ribcage and shoulders? Is there anything I can do to look less like a refrigerator? I'm already losing weight so besides that

>>8984669

Honestly not new. I made this thread in hopes to find more stores for more casual clothes. I do fine finding lolita clothes for myself (pear-chan). But I have troubles finding cute day to day wear. Such as shorts, skirts, etc

>>8984925
Be sure to watch out on length though, particularly on older styles. All my old ETC OPs and JSKs have a really short bodice compared to other brands which isn't ideal when you have boobs making everything ride up.

>>8984714
Yep, binding and/or minimizers are optional! There are no dubious fit-issues like stressed shirring or seams at all.

I forgot to mention that cuts with defined waists are more what you should look for (like pic related). I have a couple of ETC's fully shirred back OP's/empire cuts, but I find they emphasize my bust so I have to throw cardigans on over them. I've also heard that Leur Getter's dresses are generous, but I don't have first hand experience. There are some pieces with fully shirred backs, so I'm assuming they would be just as comfortable as ETC. If you like, I can take some pictures when I'm home tomorrow.

I have 2 of these blouses in size XL and they are great for otome. The green and yellow are accurate to the pictures and they fit me well.
Green (cheaper than the others)
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-woman-spring-chiffon-shirt-female-ol-high-quality-commercial-green-long-sleeve-blouse-girl-autumn/1594401532.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2016-New-Chiffon-Blouse-Bow-Collar-Long-Sleeve-Blouses-Tops-Plus-Size-Women-Clothing-Blusas-Y/32604245297.html

>>8985001
>>8984999
Awesome! I really can't thank either of you enough. This information has really made my evening (although it bears poorly for my wallet).

And >>8985001 I would love pictures if you could!

>>8984266
>>8984942

Length: 52 W3L, 54 WL4
Waist: 80 WL3, 88 WL4
Hip:
Hem Circumference?: 180 W3L and W4L

>>8984945
My nigga

>>8984945
I feel your pain friend. 116cm bust here.
>mfw the dress won't zip up because of my boobs.

>>8985058
Im only like ~104 (havent measured in a while) and I feel your pain.

Hips are fine, waist is fine, but boobs? Hell no its not going to happen.

>>8984057
So I gotta ask, which combo do you think works better for fatty-chans?
>OPs
>JSK +Blouse
>Blouse +Skirt

I would say JSK plus a blouse, but finding plus size blouses in working styles is pretty hard

>>8984980
Also curious about this

>>8985062

Really depends on your body shape I think. Apple vs pear.

I'm a pear so its a bit easier to get away with. I can technically fit into OPs but I dont think they look flattering. When looking for blouses I only buy from taobao and have had a good experience, although I'm about a 90cm bust so I'm usually able to fit the L or XL blouse size.


But yeah anyway, I'd definitely say JSK+Blouse is the best. And if you have chubby arms then long sleeves look more flattering imo

>>8985062
JSK and Blouse is my mine go to but I love OPs more which means I tend to buy a lot of indie custom sizable brands, not a big deal.

There are some brand OPs that would actually fit me too actually, but not much.

As for blouses I just pay for custom sizing those too or commissioning a blouse.

>>8984980
Broad shoulders can be minimized by necklines that either drag the eyes down (vertically) like deep Vs or that run diagonally at an angle and the like. As for a wide torso, wearing clothes that cinch at the waist would help make you look more narrows. If you don't like that kind of cut, try babydoll styles. They're pretty flattering for people with wide cribbages and shoulders, unless you have a tummy, in which case it can emphasize the area. Structured clothes are perfect for concealing flab.

It makes me happy to hear how much ETC and Leur Getter can stretch, but does it still boobloaf in an IW sort of way (like due to having a cup size above B)?

>>8984945
a-and I thought my 98cm bust was annoying af. My condolenses, anon.

>>8985112
Thank you for this, anon. I'm a petite girl with linebacker shoulders, so this will come in handy!

>>8985112

I dont know what the neckline is called but the first one on the wide shoulder lines (the off shoulder type) is freaking beautiful

>>8984934
They don't just say it though.
You'll stretch out the seams and elastic and possibly even tear the lining a bit if you're at the maximum size.

>>8984917
I can't really say the same thing. I have two ETC full shirring dresses, and the maximum would maybe be 95-98cm, you could probably squeeze in at 100+, but it'll most likely fuck up the bust seams. My LG dresses have been fine though.

>>8984271

With the debate over whether the item will fit or not, have you ever considered alterations?

I have a friend who gets a lot of items altered and they look really nice. She often takes them to a seamstress and has the fabric from the waist ties put into the side seams. You can only do this with JSKs however and not OPs.

Also I dont think the resale value goes down that much to be honest. She has sold altered pieces for about their going rate since there are other chubby-chans looking for larger pieces.

That feel when I lost weight and got down to a 95cm bust and a 71cm waist, and then but most of it back on again and am now at 105cm bust and 74cm waist. Half my brand fits terribly again, I can't believe the difference 5 kilos makes.

>>8985253
I think I might depending on if I like it enough. I'll probs just shelp it to truly darling or someone local.

I'm a newfag-fattychan and in the process of losing weight but I'm scared I might have man shoulders too. What measurements would confirm if I am or not? And you measure your shoulders like the length across your back right?

>>8985815
At least when you get a smaller waist manshoulders make it look even skinnier.

I'm getting a breast reduction this summer and I have a bunch of custom made shit that will probably be impossible to sell after I get the reduction. Do you think if I sell them super cheap, someone would be tempted to buy them?

>>8985822
I would be. What are the full measurements?

>>8985822
I'd be interested as well

>>8985822
I'd be interested too. Have a few blouses that don't fit my boobs if you want to swap.

>>8985822
I know anons like putting it into fat and tall girl's heads that if they alter their brand, it must sell for cheap.
A professional alteration isn't a damage. There's no reason to sell your brand for super cheap unless it's heavily damaged or the alteration was amateur.

>>8985822

Yeah anon like >>8985858 you shouldnt sell it for super cheap. If the alteration is done well you should sell it about the same as retail. There are always busty/chubby girls looking for a buy. Plus it saves them the scare of getting it altered themselves.

>>8985870

*sorry not retail price, whatever the going price is for the item. Of course dont include the cost of the alteration

>>8985247
Yeah, but I've seen people here bitch about how something is irreplaceable damaged if the shirring is just slightly stretched at all. Say the max is 110, and the person is 96cm. Yeah, I get that stretching a little will make it not fit on someone who is very petite and small-framed. It's like, if you're going to complain, don't buy second hand. That's the risk you'll have to pay when buying other people's used clothes.

That said, I've seen some really stretched out stuff. I've gained weight and I've maxed some of my stuff out or are close to it now, and I try to avoid wearing them until I get the weight off.
>tfw: lost a lot of weight and gained it back due to medications not agreeing with your body and fucking up your life.

>>8985213
I dunno if there's a technical name for it, but I always see it called 'deep V' or just 'off the shoulder'. Victorian era ball and evening gowns have that kind of bodice (especially the 1860s, my favorite) and I think it's flattering on plumper girls.

>>8985822
>I'm getting a breast reduction this summer

why..?
just get a better bra. its cheaper.

>>8986923
I don't think you actually understand how much large breasts suck.

>commercial clothing isn't made to fit them so shirts are either too short or too large everywhere else

>you have to buy expensive bras that you can only order online

>bra sales people will lie about your size to get you to buy bras from them

>you will forever be lewd or hot as opposed to cute

>they sag and make you feel like an old woman and are not pretty at all

large breasts suck so much.

>>8984057
Do yourselves and the world a favor and take all that time and money and put ot into something useful, like a gym membership or a bicycle or running shoes. Japanese people don't want their fashion destroyed by girls trying to put make up and bows on a turd. There is no real plus sized Japanese fashion because the Japanese acknowledge how horrible and disgusting being fat is, they have strict laws that would see most of you fined for being irresponsible overgrown fat children. Being fat is not related to Japanese fashion, its related to shame

>>8984060
If "plus size" fashion was normal in any way shape or form, you wouldn't need to make a separate thread for it- by doing so you're admitting being fat is indeed abnormal. By making a separate thread, its obvious you know deep down that you should be ashamed of yourself and you know you're in a completely different category than normal healthy sized humans.

>>8986973
Honest to god, have you ever possibly considered that maybe just maybe some of us ARE in fact losing weight but want a reward as they made progress? I've lost fifteen pounds thus far and you bet your ass I'm going to celebrate with new clothing while I continue to lose more.

Also some people are plus sized because of shit they can't control such as broad shoulders.

Yeah I know this is bait but I'm tired of anons claiming that some of us just sit on our asses. People may want options while working to improve!

>>8986923
... you're kidding right? Not OP but I'm an F cup, there's not much that a "better bra" is going to do. And most girls with large breasts already have good (and rather expensive) bras because otherwise we're in pain all the time.

>>8986975
There's a separate thread because it can be hard to find plus sized clothes in any fashion.
It's not an admittance of shame, at least not for many of us, it's a specific topic to discuss more in depth rather than derail an already existing thread to ask about sizing or alternative options.

How about instead of having to feel pious and make yourself feel better by coming to thread obvious not made FOR YOU you spend your time doing something more productive.
>>8986973
We get it, you hate fat people. What do you have to gain by letting the world know it? You're not helping anyone and you're just coming across and a salty cunt.

>>8986975
Right, I'll remember that the next time a tall lolitas thread gets made. Clearly that must also be something I'm "ashamed" of.

>5'9"
>muh shame

>>8986943
>Bra sales people will lie about your size...etc.
This is the most annoying thing. I absolutely hate the stores telling me what to do when I bother to ask if they have x size with y cup and they don't carry it. Online forever.

>>8985822
Like others I would be very interested. Don't sell too cheap. I say sell it at those prices and remember that custom means something is unique, even if it is just a larger size for that garment. You paid for it to fit, let someone else pay you back for those fees. Any busty chan who isn't new would gladly pay because they too know what's up. We've all paid extra for that one we couldn't let slip though our fingers.

>>8984945
Taobao has some cute stuff for people like us anon. Indie brands too, though the vetting will probably be hit or miss.

>>8986943
If anon happened to live in NYC there is one bra store I'd recommend because they specialize in larger sizes. They have an online store store too, lindasonline.

But I understand, I'm >>8984945 and it's a pain in the ass to find anything good to wear. But I've moved onto just refashioning clothes I get into ones that fit/look better.

>>8987185
>Taobao has some cute stuff for people like us anon. Indie brands too, though the vetting will probably be hit or miss.
Links?

>>8987185
I do browse a lot of the indie lolita shops that I see have larger sizes from the TB Google Doc, I try to find more J-fashion, though I notice TB has a ton of K-fashion in bigger sizes.

>>8986943
This. Also sewing for large breasts sucks, even if the pattern has separate pieces for different cup sizes it only goes up to a D.

>>8987005
> 5'9
> Tall
Look at this midget and laugh

>>8987195
French curve: best investment for large boobs and hips. It helps you alter patterns up to the size you need and comes with instructions.

>>8987191

Any links anon? Dying for some larger sizes for cute-general clothing

>>8986943

Honestly so grateful I have small-medium breasts.
I never even thought of the fitting issue with shirts. But I was happy that my breasts never got in my way or smacked me in the face while I was exercising.

I'm so so sorry for those anons with large breasts and the issues that they carry

(pear-chan)

At what point is someone considered pluz size, gulls?

>>8988259
over 130 pounds

>>8988259

To me I think this varies from a cgl plus size to an american plus size.

In American clothing I think of plus size as size 13+
But in lolita and jfash I think of plus size when you have issues fitting into clothes/brands and thus have to look for other alternatives. So even mildly chubby girls or large breasted girls can benefit from "plus size" lolita resources since its more difficult to obtain the clothes in larger sizes.

>>8988259
I think it's when you can't fit modern brand.

>>8988264
That also depends how tall your are, though..

>>8984980
>>8985085
i'm super broad in my ribs and shoulders, my bust isn't that big but i just have a giant + long ribcage so a lot of dresses don't zip and are too short. i only buy jsk's with adjustable straps because i always have to add an extra inch of fabric to them. i try to draw attention to my waist and downwards, so i put most of the detail in my shoes and legwear and keep everything on top relatively simple. i also like long wigs for disguising my shoulders.

>>8987368
Bless you anon-senpai. You're the reason I started the tall lolitas group on FB

>>8984679
>Positive & Plus Size Lolita Q&A
OMG I AM SO HAPPY. GOOGLE DOC SAVED. Ur teh besht <3 (3 month old lolita)

There's a fully shirred ETC OP for pretty cheap that's listed on Wunderwelt for whoever wants it http://www.wunderwelt.jp/products/detail12010.html

>>8988259
I've considered B100/W80-ish

>>8988259
You have to take weight, height, bmi, fat percentage to muscle ratio, age, frame, race, sex, etc into account as well as measurements.
I'm speaking from experience, I'm very short and I used to be very heavy.
Currently I'm still overweight at 62 kilo's (bmi 25.8), I'm 155cm (or 5'1) and my bust is 91cm.
I fit a EU womens size 40 and sometimes 38 which are not considered very large but on my frame it is!
I'm definitely plus sized too.

Working hard on that though!
Already lost 36 kilo's and hoping to lose another 12 to 15 kilo's.

>>8988418
Boy do I know the feeling. A wide ribcage is fashion he'll.

>>8988503
>age
>race

whut