/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

also still shameless self advertisement so Bob can win more sponsors to get advantage on the upcoming Hunger Games Larp this weekend.
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>>8983275
They missed a trick by not calling Hungary Games.

>>8983275
I for one, support Bob Bobnovich's Killstarter!

>>8983290
This is the first time I heard that today.

>>8983291
As do I. He better not let us down.

>>8983295
I doubt that.

>>8983334
it's already past midnight here so I'm technically correct, the best kind of correct

>>8983272
>drama

>next event has not even started yet
>tent sleeping spot drama is already imminent

why is it so hard for people to announce that they lack a personal tent and need a spot in someone else's or a guild tent while there is time left?

year after year, there are 3-5 people always showing up wondering were they can sleep, christ...

I'm intrigued by this thread continue

>>8983354
Are you new to the /larpthread/?

We cover more than larp. SCA, HEMA/WMA, ACL/HMC/BotN, rennfaires and historic recreation are all welcome.

Questions?

>>8983358
Don't forget armour pedantry! Always time for armour pedantry!

Speaking of armour, the plate stuff I use for Empire is getting a bit tired and battered now. So I plan to polish it up and paint it in black hammerite for a new lease of life. Before getting rid eventually. Potentially replace with PU stuff as I don't drive at the moment. YOU TRY CARRING PLATE ARMOUR ON LONDON UNDERGROUND!

>>8983463
>YOU TRY CARRING PLATE ARMOUR ON LONDON UNDERGROUND!
No thanks. Hell, the only time I've been in London I avoided the underground and just walked.

>>8983463
>replace with PU
Faggot

>TRY CARRING PLATE ARMOUR
The easier way to carry it is to wear it.

And you'll be safe from chavs with kitchen knives.

Checkmate, limey.

Hema Longsword fighting tends to rely on blade binding and close range contact.

Most longsword(see all sword) fighting in larps have 0 bind or players simply do not bind for whatever reason, and they play range controll simply to hop in and throw a shot then back out of range again.

If i wanted to use historical techniques, how would i overcome this?

>>8983468
Also not to mention alot of longsword fighting in historical transcripts is aimed at the head and neck. With this target not being legal it almost makes many of the guards useless. Wat do.

>>8983470
Different rules + different tools = different tactics

When you have a sword that is considerably light and a rule set that is based off making contact with said sword you just have yo adapt.

Just see it as a different sport or fighting style, like mma vs karate.

>>8983468
>>8983470
By forcing the advance, and not allowing them to open range. work the quillions and keep their weapon pressed. If they attempt to disengage, follow and attack.

Work on low and mid ward guards. Hands and forearms are ideal targets, so keep yours behind your guard.

Whos system of longsword are you studying?

>>8983466
It is bad enough wearing Kevlar on the Underground, let alone plate steel!

>>8983480
Germanic longsword teqs.

>>8983490
>Wah wah wah. My delicate britishness

>>8983495
We prefer the term civilised, you damn colonial!

>>8983491
Means nothing.

WHOS system?

>>8983497
Not your colony, Monsieur.

>>8983500
I've been watching Sword Carolinians stuff, and the academy of historical fencings stuff, if that means anything to you.

>>8983748
Means jack and shit to me.

Thibault. Fiore. Silver. Bluchard. Meyer.

You know, the actual people who wrote this shit.

>>8983801
The video that gif is from made me want to begin learning when I first saw it.

>>8983468
Speaking as someone who is in the same boat, but farther along the path of adapting, the main ways I've dealt with it are by focusing on mid/low strikes and guards like Gropey said, and just plain practicing a lot. Getting used to swinging around the lighter weapon helps immensely in figuring out what you can and can't do with it.

>>8983463
>YOU TRY CARRING PLATE ARMOUR ON LONDON UNDERGROUND!
I either carry my half plate on myself or in a big ALICE pack with the rest of my shit.
But armor is just one thing, with a good packpack it isn't that much a problem (although it takes up a fuckton of space) The real problem is my halberd. Have you tried to travel across europe with a 240 cm long halberd?
Every ticket inspectors first sentence when they see it is:
"This is impossible"

>>8983468
alright consider the following:
First of all, larp swords "can't" bind. By that I mean the padding on them means they will more often than not bounce of from each other on a blade hit. There are a few exceptions but basically you shouldn't count on that a bind will happen, ever. Plus they are lighter than the real ones, and ultralights can do totally unrealistic stuff compared to a sword.
Secondly, different target areas. Groin and head doesn't count so that's a problem. The real problem comes when neither the arms. Real problem comes when armor is in the equation that can fuck you up but that's pretty much excepted. Anyway if you are already good enough to use various techniques than this will be the least of your problems.
Third problem is this: in most systems weapons are kind of like light-sabers. If they touch you they deal damage. Sometimes it's a little better as it has to be a clear heat, but combining with how padded swords tend to bounce a little this can be a real pain in the ass.
Fourthly, and this is very important the world is full with dangerous amateurs. Most people have little to no training so they will try stuff that others would count as suicidal but because of the unexpected stuff they do and partly because of the previously mentioned stuff they can easily end up with a double kill with you

So what should you do?
deflecting the blade can be tricky but thank god, a lot of defense in german fencing has the basis of "just hit away the other guys blade" which works perfectly well. Like just hitting away the blade from an Alber or from a Zornhut.
But pretty much because of the lightsaber effect starting from Pflug, waiting where the other guy fucks up and just let him impaled on your sword is very effective too.
Anyway, just keep your distance and don't try to go into binding or wrestling.


Also this is for messers but works perfectly on larps, especially because of the bouncy swords
https://youtu.be/UHEs2m0IXAk?t=239

>>8983801
Oh its a compilation of alot of different sources and interpretations, Its just a basis. im not that in depth to it yet.

>>8983891
Ill have to give that a try then! do you have any tips on what works specifically well in whatever situations?
>>8983926
Luckly i use a heavier blade, weighing in at about 1.7 pounds but your right nothing binds, it just bounces, and alot of stupid shit happens with ultralight swords, which i might also add, are circular and striking surface counts on ALL sides(which is so stupid.)

I'll have to look more in depth into this stuff but the messer video you showed was really nice, Theres alot of things i think that could transfer. But when i talk about grappling im talking about how they bind the arm then move to something else like a stab while still retaining the arm. Not necessarily a tackle and pin.

>>8984230
>, which i might also add, are circular and striking surface counts on ALL sides(which is so stupid.)
that's why they called dicksowrds.

But generally a lot of depends on the swords. Calimacils for example are extra bouncy because they flex a lot, although becasue of this they are extra safe (and we use it to teach hema stuff for beginners when they don't have any safety equipment. Learning the stances and stuff like that can be done with it before transferring to steel)

If you have wooden, pvc or golf club cores the bounciness will be less, although the aren't as safe.

Weight is a tricky issue too because if someone is heavier than an ultralight is not necessarily means it handles closer to a real sword. There are a fuckton of larp swords that's point of balance are at the handle, so they can do a lot of weird shit with it.
Then again, if point of balance is fucked you can easier hit away their swords

Anyone else ever have mobs sent out during events to look for and prevent innawoods boning?

>Tfw you track characters by their moans

>>8984481
nah, we send high level rogues for that

>>8984481
No because we're not catholic or amish.
Scandinavians bone in the woods all the time.

>>8984230
>circular and striking surface counts on ALL sides

Real sword techniques are always at a disadvantage against lightsaber dickswords.

Look for a better game, where people at least try to not suck cock.

>>8984481
....Who cares? Unless its a safety hazard or something, its a non issue.

>>8984481
>>8984524
>>8984575
christ

>>8984481
>track characters by their moans
Implying I don't bang the shy qts who cum quietly just so I can't be ganked with my pants down.

>>8983926
For a full size festlarp I normally have two wheeled holdalls and my police backpack which is about size of a bergen. The lack of lifts in London Stations is a massive issue. Much easier if I can browbeat a mates wheels.

>>8984694
Let me guess
>Backpack: hygiene items, underwear, regular clothing, essentials, sleeping bag
>Big red bag: Armor and Gambeson&co
>Small tan bag: LARP clothing and accesories
>Black carrying bag: Weapons
>Loose items: Crossbow and fold able tent bed

The 2nd red bag must have a tent or a bunch of medieval items such as lamps, plates, mugs or maybe I am just underestimating the size of your armoury.

>>8984481
>>8984685
>Implying I don't bang the shy qts who cum quietly just so I can't be ganked with my pants down.

Dis.

We only ever did this once, and it was because people left used condoms at the site. I came up on one of the barons and someone who was definetly not his IRL wife, in the middle of 'clean up'

It stopped because we'd rather have a couple used condoms than air someone's dirty laundry.

Has anyone ever written a guide about how to play a character that'll be fun to others? Going to a big LARP this year (Drachenfest) and I want to make sure my character will give others the best experience I can pull off.

>>8984905

Play a prostitute. A cheap prostitute.

>>8984905
Try not being a massive faggot, it shouldn't be difficult.

>>8984646

That guys face is like 'What the fuck am I doing with my life?'

Does anybody have any tutorials for making foam armor and full face helmets that can be used for training?

>>8985349
Yeah, you go to a store, bring up your wallet and buy tested and well functional sparring protectors.

I've been trying to figure out a way to carry things at event. I'm a type 1 diabetic so I need to carry my meter and such, I have a couple of belt pouches but nothing overly comfortable. I play a celt if that helps at all.

>>8985749
A backpack?

>>8985749
>belt pouches
>not comfy
How fat are you?

>>8985897
149lbs
Type 1 my dude. It's a fairly bulky meter and I've gotta have some kind to sugary bullshit on me.

>>8985749
how about a haversack? it would be on your shiulder so it should be a tad more comfortable to wear, plus you'd have the spece for youe equipment.

>>8985749
>>8985996
how about a haversack? it would be on your shoulder so it should be more comfortable to wear, plus you'd have the space for your equipment.

>tfw you made 9 arrows at home in 2 days from scratch

I'm tired, and using 10 mm shafts plus the new boffer heads I bought made them quite heavy so now I will have to reconsider crafting a new bow or buying another one...

Anyone here happen to have 5 stacks of Yew, 1 roll of Leather String, 2 pieces of Soft Leather and one bottle of Oil left over?

What helmet types do you guys use?

>>8986604
Kettle helmet.

>Practical points
Comfy and breathable, protects you against sun and rain. Can be used as a bathing bucket. They can be a bit wobbly when making quick moves though.

>LARP points
They are kind of op in my opinion since they increase the target area of your head and thus leads to more hits on your head instead of your shoulders which makes you avoid a lot of potential hp hits.

Makes you look legit when on guard duties and a good piece for an average mercenary/soldier.

>>8986832
Also if fighting in woodland, kettles have a habit of channeling branches right into your face!

>>8986203
I'm just gonna buy the arrows. they are overpriced but fuckit.

>>8986858
I don't know really, buying all the materials (exluding nocs, and buying pre-made boffer heads) made the unit price to around 7€ for me whiles buying completed arrows goes for 10€.

I didn't measure the time to make one arrow but it is probably around 2+ hours.

So 3€ extra to save 2 hours isnt that bad.

The plus is that you can make your own details and preferences such as length and width of the shaft to suit your bow.

>>8986853
just keep your head a bit down.
>>8986832
try using a thicker arming cap.

>>8986604
also kettle hat
Basically the helmet master race


Also, got home from the hunger games larp, sadly Bob did not win

>>8987067
get better pants

>>8986604
Attic helmet = cool helmet

>>8987067
It's like you didn't even follow than one guide people always post when picking/layering larp gear

>>8987234
just for you

>>8987243
Yep. after all, that's for the noobs.

>>8986950
Yeah its on my list of things needed, I dont know if I should make one myself or buy one though.

Headwear aint my speciality and the last time I tried I got a hat that was maybe 4 cm to small in circumference. Somehow.

>>8987243
My guide is for beginners and novices.

Once you know the rules you can break them and do whatever the hell you want.

At that point, if you look like shit it's your own damn fault.

>>8987243
>>8987265
Additionally he actually is well within the lines that my guide postulates with very few exceptions.

>Practicality
Yeap. Everything's practical other than trying to keep white pants clean.
>Fit
Everything fits well and that armor is custom made.
>Layering
He is wearing armor so layering isn't particularly needed. The armor itself is the layer. He has a few good points of interest, mostly around his face (feathers, red cap) which draw attention to the area.
>Fabric
Can't really tell from here, but it's HLF so I assume it's all linen or at least cotton.
>Color
White is technically a neutral color, as is his black shirt. Based on how bright the red on his cap looks and the blue on his legs, I assume the brightness of the white can be put down to the camera/photo (it looks a little over-saturated)
I would be bothered by the red and the blue, but because they're in such small quantities it's not too distracting.
Additionally the white of the pants is mirrored by the white on the armor, which I quite like.
>Accessories
All his leather stuff is of a similar brown. The shoes are in-genre. The belt is practical.

Effectively the only parts that bother me is how the pants fit and the future issues of keeping them clean. Not a huge fan of the blue, but it makes the outfit more unique by technically breaking the color rules.

>>8987246
Tell Geralt I said hi

>>8987286
there is actually a fuckton of cheating on that pic. the "socks" is basically the inside of the lower part of my hose seen here >>8987246 before it was finished.
I have a linen shirt but the black thing is a black doublet with yellow inside, although you can't really see where the doublet ends and where the armor begins, which is sometimes actually quite useful. But the doublet while have linen inside and padding the outside is some strong textil I don't know the name. It fits quite well although the padding was a little too much and first project so sometimes looks weird.
The white pants is the generic pants I have that I can lend for others all my others were either on repair or weren't finished. And I don't like the whiteness of it either I like to keep them at least a little dirty, but probably it wasn't used much before that. But i keep it a little on the "baggy" side for better ventilation.

But here is a pic from the same event with probably a bit different shading/brightness

>>8984645
I mean, aside from the fact that that can be considered indecent exposure, which is illegal...

>>8985349
For foam armor, usually looking up cosplay guides is a good starting point. And any of those can be used for sparring. If you mean stuff that will actually survive sparring, though... well, you're going to have to find a good wizard first.

>>8984481
>to look for and prevent innawoods boning?

I mean, I can imagine doing this if the boning is IC and there's an IC reason for preventing the boning. Then it becomes hilarious.

Otherwise, why bother?

>>8988197
to praise Sigmar, my son. And to kill the heretics

>>8986604
>>8986832
>>8987067
>>8987239
Speaking of helmets:

Is there a way to connect a plume to a helmet that doesn't originally have one? (Preferrably temporary, but either temp or permanent work)
Dark Souls made me really want a plume.

>>47045382
DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER

Either this guy is a troll or is about to be horribly misinformed.

>>8989046
http://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/47045382/help-me-decide-a-helm-tg#top

Link as quoting doesn't work.

>>8988999
Buy a drill.

Somebody's latex ultralight snapped at our event this weekend from blocking an attack. On the one hand, I feel bad, because they were clearly pretty attached to the sword, but on the other hand, it made a nice demonstration of why ultralights are not a good idea.

>>8985349
>Does anybody have any tutorials for making foam armor and full face helmets that can be used for training?

No, as I don't suck penises, recreationally or professionally.

What kind of "training"? As >>8985457 says, spend the money and buy some real safety gear if your using anything harder than boffers.

>>8986604
Sallet.

>>8986832
>They can be a bit wobbly when making quick moves though.

What kind of padding and chinstrap are you using? If your helmet is sliding, its not protecting you.

>>8988009
Only if you get caught. Also, most events are on private property.

>>8988340
They are simply doing their Sigmarite duty for the Empire, and making new little soldiers!

>>8988999
Make a plume holder. Pic related.

>>8989062
Well... Just commented in it before comming here....

>>8989388
Plume guy here. That's awesome, thanks!
Is there a place to buy plumes/way to make them? Preferrably not from horse hair and such

>>8989683
You mean.... Ostrich, peacock and pheasant feathers?

Crafts stores muh knigga.

>>8989683
Micheal's craft stores: four all your tournament needs.

>>8989724

>>8989683
>>8989704
>>8989724
If you want them cheaper and don't mind waiting a month or so I suggest eBay, especially for ostrich plumes.

>>8989732
Hey stranger!

Also: Coupons. The power of coupons should never be neglected.

>>8989762
Hey friend!

Coupons and eBay are my friends, mostly eBay though.

Looks like peacock feathers are dirt cheap on eBay to, I'm attempting to win 10 for .75.

Is everybody's Province a bunch of lazy bums? Been asking the marshal where I'm supposed to get loaner gear, he hasn't responded in a week lol. My province seems to have dogshit communication in general.

>>8989732
that or go to an ostrich farm and bring your armor

>>8989785
>Is everybody's Province a bunch of lazy bums?
nope. We don't have a province here.
Nor do we have marshals.
but communication IS dogshit. that's a global constants I think

>>8985457

I appreciate your sarcasm but seeing as I want to learn how to make my own armor and not just fill somebody elses pocket with my hard earned cash your sarcasm doesn't help me in any way.

>>8988023

Thanks for your feedback! Yeah I've been looking at those and read through some of them and I've got a copy of the Armourer and his craft by ffolkes and Brian Prices, Techniques of Medieval Armour Reproduction, which I haven't read yet, .

What I want to do is practice those armoring techniques using layers of foam and some kind of harder layer like plastic, and then sew it into a covering of some kind. Or at least that's what I'm hoping I'll be able to do. The helmet I want to make out of plastic with a foam inner lining. I've been looking at what they are doing with American football helmets and how they are trying to improve concussion safety and was thinking that I'll make the helmet double layered, with the outer layer a flexible plastic then some kind of lining, foam/plastic/whoknows.

But like I said I can't really find any tutorials that covers this so I'm kind of making it up as I go along. It's pretty slow going. :(

>>8989388

Again the sarcasm is appreciated but it doesn't help. The training is for HMB but I can't afford full armor kit at the moment and none of the training gear I can get my hands on suits the purpose. I mainly have boxing body guards, pads and some boxing head gear. We are using boffers because we are training with kids as well but we need soft kit stuff due to safety reasons and nobody is providing it at a reasonable price, hence why I am asking for the tutorials. If I can figure out how to make a cheap, rugged enough alternative to what we are using now and can template it for other people, then it's going to make the sport of armored combat a lot more accessible.

>>8989724
Do they have the 'longer' kind of plumes? The ones that look like ponytails and such?

>>8990153
>The training is for HMB but I can't afford full armor kit at the moment and none of the training gear I can get my hands on suits the purpose.
alright so let me get this straight: you want to train for HMB, and you want to do this with a safety equipment of foam armor?

Anyone have any tips for someone wanting a Burgundian Gothic kit for SCA, I'm located in Lochac (Australia)

>>8990162
the only good thing about that is the tabard, everything else is bad and wrong.

>>8989785
What game are you playing?

>>8990026
Ostrich are easy tier. Cassowary will give you a fight for your life.

>>8990153
Im not being sarcastic. I am being a national ranked ACL/HMB combatant with (as of an event three days ago) 11 years of various armoured martial arts.

Don't cut corners on your safety, and stop being a rude little prat.

>>8990156
Usually

>>8990160
Its either a mall ninja who has no clue, or a troll.

>>8990161
Hello fellow late 15thC SCAer!

Yes indeed I do. The key to your kit is the gambeson. Now, my mother hand quilted me a burgundian quilted jack using a historic pattern (pic related), as they were incredibly rare on the market, and would sell for $400+ USD....

And a few months after it was finished, these popped up on KoA for $100.

Life is funny. LoB is a good brand, and is all natural fibers.

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SNMC7107E&name=15th+Century+Gambeson+-+Natural

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SNMC7107BK&name=15th+Century+Gambeson+-+Black

My suggestion from there is simple disk or shaped spaulders, simple elbow cops, and a friend to help you make the strips in between to make SCA legal jackchains. Mind you, you're in Oz, so everything is going to be a little harder.

>>8990161
Here is the single most common armour setup of the late 15thC: A quilted jack and jack chains.

You can buy nice looking jackchains online, but the elbow wont cover all three points, and the metal is a little thin. they are easy enough to make.

>>8983926
Awesome points made right here only have one or two things to add.
As Hungarian said the weapons are foam not steel so they won't "bite" or bind easily, and depending on your larp use the pommel of your sword to either strike or lock your opponents hands is frowned upon.
So here's a few things I found can help.
1. Don't try to swing the thing like it is the almighty doom hammer of god.
Yes you want to hit your opponent but the longsword was actually most of a time (especially unarmored) a weapon of finesse.
2. Create threat, at 99% of larps/battlegames there really is no real disadvantage to dying and well getting hit with a padded sword ( especially if you wear semi decent armor) doesn't really hurt that bad.
So create a area of threat where if a opponent steps into they truly know that they will get hit.
3. Adapt your stances/forms.
I have simplified my forms down to about four a modified from the rafters, ox but at the chest no throat, iron gate (held with the blade running angular down behind you), and finally a fools guard which I don't use to much as people can do dumb shit and this can end in there groin and I prefer not to hurt people.
4. larp/battlegame/sca the sword and shield will always be the preferred combo and without head strikes getting any two hander to be on par takes a lot of effort.
But it's worth it I using nothing these days bar a long sword, halberd, poleaxe, sabre or single sword and targe/buckler.

>>8987246
SIr I must take umbrage with this, that cod piece looks hardly large enough to hide ones loot and those sleeves are not nearly puffy enough.
But seriously nice kit man, Landsknecht and warhammer empire are two of my favorite kits.

>>8990153
Protection motocross armor and a fencing mask maybe a gambeson/aketon.
Also use wasters closer to metal then boffer also you will look like less of a twat.
http://www.woodenswords.com/product_p/ks-ss.htm
Otherwise make a coat of plates, cheap and easy to make.

>>8990591
>motocross armor
Overkill, and can actually cost more than for what he wants to do. A proper gambeson will serve better, and is the layer of which all ACL/HMB harnesses are built on. This allows for the growth of the harness as they progress, as well as acclimating to wearing it in the first place.

>fencing mask
Specifically speaking, a 3-weapon mask that will provide protection to the sides and top of the head.

Both the gambesom and mask can have leather or plastic plates added as needed.

And say no to boffers. Wooden or synthetic wasters, with a layer of foam. This will be moderately safe, but have the weight and handling closer to a real steel blunt.

>>8990600
I also want to specifically add an adage that has stuck and served me well:

If you train with one tool, and compete with another, you'll be good at training and shit at competing.

>>8990578
>that cod piece looks hardly large enough to hide ones loot
Since I lost my leg to a cannonball in Pavia I have enough room where I can put my "loot"

> and those sleeves are not nearly puffy enough.
see pic

but on a serious note, thanks. Both the codpiece and the sleeves are okay for early 16th landsknect, it's just a shame that the stereotypical landsknecht is mid-late 16th century

>>8990600
For fencing mask PBT just come out with a new one for historical fencing. I used their old version but the improvements they made is convincing

On a related note we finally managed to fuck up a calimacil sword on our hema training after one year of use (and in paralel another two years of larping with it). There was no injury, the sword simply just teared up at the side near the tip so it's no longer safe

>>8990668
I highly doubt that cheapanon would put money down on a calmacil when he's trying to make home made boffers and foam armour.

Pic unrelated, but fuggin gorgeous.

>>8990416
Hey Gropey, question for you, since you bring up the topic of gambesons. About a year ago I grabbed this one (http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SNMC7121BK&name=15th+Century+Arming+Doublet+-+Black+)) because it had holes in the shoulders for my jack chains. I've found that because it's so short, it tends to ride up under my tabard, which makes the whole thing look kind of lumpy and awkward.

The one you linked is one of the replacements I've been considering, but it doesn't look like that one has a way to attach jack chains. Do you think punching holes in the shoulders to attach them would work, or would that be a bad idea?

>>8990763
>http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=SNMC7121BK&name=15th+Century+Arming+Doublet+-+Black+

You committed a common mistake.

Thats an arming doublet. arming doublets are not arming jacks/gambesons.

What you have there is much much thinner than a gambeson, and is MEANT to be short. That is what you wear under a full suit, and is not meant to be exposed or used as armour in its own right, but as low profile padding and clothing for under a full suit.

A gambeson/Arming jack is stand alone armour, and is much thicker.

>it doesn't look like that one has a way to attach jack chains. Do you think punching holes in the shoulders to attach them would work, or would that be a bad idea?

Don't punch holes. Sew on points.pic related

>>8990771
Whoops. Sorry. Drinking.

>>8990779

>>8990771
>>8990782
That... makes a lot of sense, actually. I thought it seemed a bit thin.

Thanks for the advice!

>>8990811
No problem, Pic related on what you got now.

That said, its not totally a waste. In the late 15thC/early 16thC, France and Italy saw a "military chich" fashion, where civilians were wearing clothes with arming points that were purely for fashion. Get yourself a nice pair of hosen and a fancy hat!

>>8990825
How does that comfortable, the jacket looks very thin.

>>8991253
....What?

And its supposed to be relatively thin. Its about as thick as a sweatshirt, and is simply a little padding, mounting and chaffing protection from the full harness.

And arming doublet is not armour.

>>8990742
I never said that anyone should buy calimacil for hema training.
It's not bad for beginners though. As long as you just learning the basics and don't have proper safety equipment they are good enough to give out and try a few things. Plus a lot of larpers come to our trainings so we try to show stuff to them that works on larps with larp weapons

>>8991253
>How does that comfortable, the jacket looks very thin.
well, the guy is from the UK not from the US so maybe that?

>>8991497
What does his nationality have to do with the thickness of the doublet?

>>8991510
how does thinness makes something uncomfortable?

But it was just a bad joke on americans being fat

>>8990423
Thanks Gropey! You're awesome!

Dear Gropey,

KoA should be giving you commission, bought a couple tunics from them yesterday, should be here by Friday.