/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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No offense but I thought this was the ita thread based on OP. I don't mind punk j-fash like you can find on the secondhand sites, but punk lolita looks like you just got back from circus school. The looks contrast too much. Some of the other pics are just Gothic. Stick to Gothic or punk, don't try to force a substyle that sucks

>>8905836
Hide the thread if you don't like it, fag.

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>>8905836
to each their own

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>>8905836
>don't try to force a substyle that sucks
They didn't invent it. Fuck off if you don't like it.

>>8906144
This is so cute! Id love to see more creative sweet coords like this!

>>8905836
Coming from someone who deosnt normally dress up as anything, punk lolita looks a lot less ridiculous, mismatched, and in your face annoying compared.to other more popular lolita subtypes like decora. That decora , sweet,and other similar obnoxious styles are much less aesthetic than this stuff.

>>8905836
>being this newfag

>>8905594
3rd Wave Ska lolita

>>8907281
sweet/punk is an awesome style. i do not have a lot of pics of it though. usually people do regular punk or goth/punk.

i find sweet to often be formulaic despite its huge range of prints, colorways, and themes, all combined with its enherent playfulness/kawaii factor.

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>>8905836
>not knowing that punk lolita has been around longer than OTT sweet and was a key substyle from the beginning
Be new'er

gonna do a small dump of my images as well since punk-lita is a dying breed

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other side of this image

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nice

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Last one from me.

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These aren't even remotely lolita you twat

>>8910972
*twats

take it up with the brands, magazine editors, and Japanese fashionistas. a couple are outdated and have similar silhouettes to what was acceptable at the time, others are just a bit quirky.

it's punk, man.

>>8910347
Being old doesn't make it look better though. It was dumb then and it would look really dumb now next to all the other girls with piles of lace, crochet, and floral arrangements on their heads

>>8910972
Do people not even try to remember what was 'in' several years ago? Most of those images at the time they were created were featured in lolita magazines, blogs and endorsed by lolita models and brands as lolita. It's an old style yeah but just because there are new trends doesn't make the older one invalid.

>>8911106
>it was dumb then
According to who? Apparently not the people who created the substyle and the hundreds of people who wore it, brands that made it, wrote about it and took photos for magazines about it. The only reason punk would look out of place now is because the trend and general lolita aesthetic has shifted in the last decade. Punk was around when the lolita aesthetic wasn't as formulaic and rigid as what it's become and that was it's point.
Saying the current version of lolita is the only acceptable version of lolita is what's dumb. Fashion changes, clearly.

Can't imagine how much shit westerners would get for wearing some if this stuff now. A lot of it looks so cosplay-ish/mismatched.

>>8911452
some of these coords are quite recent and were received well.

i would still like to see some DIY punk lolita that uses things like cute patches on damaged dresses.

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>>8912356
It's punk just because it's plaid? Because I don't really see punk here.

>>8913105
I agree, it's a cute coord but plaid fabric and RHS don't equal punk.

>>8913105
it was tagged as punk (see file name) but yeah, you're right i think

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Punk is great and was my original love. It's really an ancient style and I hope it gets revived, or really, just the love it deserves someday. I think most lolitas get hung up on the fact it's not really elegant and it's super easy to skirt close to looking like a gradeschool mall goth, but it can be done right.

>>8905836
>so new she doesn't remember anything before ott sweet

>>8912356
Is this not just regular old school?

>>8916592
for a thread so small, it is odd you would respond without engaging the discussion of that particular coord

>>8905685
Nooo this is so ita!

>>8910223
This is so cute <3

I wonder if any of punk lolitas are actually punks. Like real punk who listen to punk rock or/and believe in anarchy.

>>8918405
Punk Lolita here. I do listen to punk and ska, however I much prefer post punk, deathrock & gothrock. As for anarchy, meh. I don't think it could work in my country. Way too many crazies.

>>8919057
Oh, I really adore goth and postpunk!

>>8919108
Gothrock and Deathrock is under appreciated, imo. I like Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Acid Bats, Sisters of Mercy, Alien Sex Fiend, 69 eyes, 45 grave, ect.

>>8919498
Do you love Play Dead? They are great! I also a big fan of SoM and their clones like The Merry Thought and Dr Arthur Krause. Oh, I really love Siouxsie's voice,
She's unique woman.

>>8919505
Aaah Play Dead, been a while. As for The Merry Thoughts, I prefer them over Dr.AK. I agree that Siouxsie is pretty unique and out there.

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I really appreciate dr AK for the song 'Fadime', I think it's cool (or what is nowaday word for cool?) when songs are based on real stories.

Also I found a great russian band, it's called 'никoгo_нeт_дoмa', I beleive it is nikogo_net_doma in latin alphabet. Anyway, you can find them on lastfm. Their music is really great.

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the bottom left is so-so, others are trash

So, doesn't punk lolita have rules, like 'you should wear a blouse under jsk'?

I love punk lolita for its old school touch

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Not really, punk outside of Lolita is hard to pin down as one set thing, so I find that it tends to be a little more freeform.

I think the most important parts from the main Lolita "rules" are the skirt shape, skirt length (though a few cm shorter isn't always bad if it's not scandalous), and reasonable modesty (I'd usually apply this to visible cleavage rather than bare arms, but I guess it's a matter of preference).

After that, it's about bringing in whatever punk elements you want, and pretty much tinkering around with it until it's identifiable as both punk and lolita. For example, the coord on the right in >>8905685
is way too far punk to the point where as Lolita, it's ita, there are no discernable Lolita traits, but in coords like >>8905594
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you can clearly see and separate the Lolita and punk elements in each. Of course they don't have to be exactly 50/50, coords will often lean a little more in either direction, but you'll often be able to clearly recognise them as having bits of both.

Punk Lolita isn't formulaic like standard Lolita, but honestly that's part of the fun, and it gives way to a ton of variety, even if there is a risk of there being plenty dodgy coords in the mix.

>>8920649
this is a good post. i want to add that part of the fun of punk is deconstructing the traditional lolita aesthetic, especially when it comes to color and pattern coordination. contrasting colors rather than complementary colors are welcome in punk, and clashing patterns and layers of different fabric types give the aesthetic a sensory factor that i find difficult to explain.

easymode punk lolita has the traditional lolita silhouette and safer color coordination, with the "British schoolkid punk" look of black, tartan, studs, chains, and maybe a touch of leather. but then you have stuff like all the Nana Kitade coords posted in this thread that demonstrate how you can use regular, non-punk pieces combined and layered in a punk way. (fucking love Nana Kitade's style.)

punk lolita can be hard to get "right" if you don't already coord well in one of the main 3 styles, imo. you need to know the rules and what flatters you before you can blow them apart with a punk coord.

>>8920649
thanx

>>8919057
I am really lucky I have found you! Email me at fakesoapmail@gmail.com please

>>8921154
Email sent!

>>8920659
Whatever happened to Nana? I don't see her anymore.

I think the better punk Lolita looks also have an 'eccentric rock star' vibe. Then again, rock stars made punk fashion what it is. The well put together looks, what most strive for in Lolita, seem forced. Whereas the messy clashing looks seem better suited for punk.
Alas, I've nothing to contribute because anons are on it and posted my favs.

Punk lolita seems to be not very popular

bump

More punk

>>8905602
Hello Bodyline-chan

>>8927859
What is wrong with Bodyline if it looks good?

>>8928024
the model Is Bodyline-chan.

the brand in that photo is h. Naoto.

it's ok, we all make mistakes

>>8928059
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm not familiar with nor h. Naoto, neither Bodyline.

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This was on cof about a year ago.

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i like the outfit but thats a piss poor mohawk

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boystyle examples?

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I got this OP recently and it's so comfortable, I really need to try coording it in a fun way.

>>8911106
all fashion is dumb if you regard it with that attitude! even if you don't like something personally it's still good form to appreciate predecessors of current styles. punk is a nice break from the rigidness of lolita. a lot of the above examples are very cleverly crafted to balance the chaos and cute, it's not as mishmashed as it might appear at first glance.

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yikes. no.

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yikes yes. This is more accurate to actual US punk fashion rn

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Lmao, it's that mintkismet?

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cop on those shoes?

>>8911452
I wear punk pretty frequently. It's a lot more toned down and wearable for everyday than most lolita, and I find it to be freer and more creative for events.
However, you have to strike a balance with your outfits. You can't be danger-chan.

>>8911106
>Being old doesn't make it look better though. It was dumb then and it would look really dumb now

The type of lolita fashion that's around nowadays will look tacky and awful in a few years, that's what fashion is like - it always seems terrible in immediate retrospect. It's not until you've lived through a few trends and phases that you're able to look at it subjectively.

NES games looked like primitive shit when the SNES came out, now it's considered an acceptable aesthetic choice to make your videogame look like a retro 8 bit classic. Nothing changed, just perception.

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this, a thousand times this

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Yep

>>8910376
Damn I hope that's not Ayumi plant irl.

But I think it's impressive that she still dresses like that with her age, I can only hope to be this cool when I get older.

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I was about to post some snarky bullshit, but the more I look at this coord the more I like it. I think I'm starting to appreciate the slightly jarring appearance of punk next to other more standard substyles.

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i have the same feelings often, it is one reason i keep looking at punk coords. it is strangely compelling

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I think we're so trained into the mindset that Lolita coords have to be perfect, neat, colour-balanced, elegant, etc, that we forget what it's like to just wear something fun, or in a way that's not as uniform as expected.

I'm really starting to love non-standard stuff in Lolita. JSKs with no blouse, punk, other non-Lolita or less rigid elements. I think the western standard has really started to stagnate and damage the fashion's existence as a street fashion.

>>8956807
Amen, anon.

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Could swear I replied
She's in a band called teenage kissers

>>8956805
her hair is so crazy I think it's looks so bad but I also really love it.

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are you saying that this is even slightly appropriate to be walking around the mall in?

looks like shit and she probably complains about being "bullied".

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this is the pic that made me fall in love with pinkXblack sweet colourways.
Don't look at it or you will be converted

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I love batshit pattern clashing like this, it just looks like so much fun. I think black/white/red is a really cute combination, too.

To my surprise, Tumblr wasn't a total trainwreck in the punk lolita tag.

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Colud you please tell me how to distinguish a punk lolita from an ita? No trolling, but like 90% of the coords I've seen on this threat would be instantly on the ita thread if they were posted on Closet of Frills.

>pic related. Is this considered ita or punk lolita? Because I've always considered it awfully ita (along with all the items in the "separate" section) but it looks even more wearable than half of the coords here

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Also a lot of people have a knee-jerk reaction to punk lolita as ita, and that's probably not going away anytime soon, unfortunately.

>>8956807
this

I love punk lolita way more than any other style, apart from maybe trad.