/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

So I'm considering getting the new JetJ shoes, but the sizing just doesn't make fucking sense to me.

I'm a EU 38, my feet measure 23,8cm, that pretty much equals a Japanese M size on that chart (24cm).
But according to the UK size on this chart, the shoes in M are only a Japanese 23,5 and according to the French (EU) size the shoes in M are only a Japanese 23,0. So they suddenly wouldn't be the right size anymore.
Going by the Japanese sizing again, the L size (25cm) would definitely be too big for me, going by the French size, L would fit me again.

So which size am I supposed to pick now? I'm hella confused. If anyone owns JetJ shoes and can tell me what the sizing is truly like, I'd really appreciate that.

>>8750403
Those are ugly af, don't bother

Has anyone else tried ordering from Maiden Clothing and received this error when trying to pay? Every time I hit the next button on my payment screen I get this error before I can input my information. Any idea what to do? I'm going to email them about it now and see if they can send me a new payment link...

"Apology
I am very sorry. Could not your application.
Please press the "close" button.
※ "close" when you click the button if the browser is not closed
Please closed on the Close button on the browser (or tab)."

>>8750410
I could be wrong, but I think Maiden Clothing only accept email orders for overseas customers.

Secrets and Valentines are up!

>>8750438
I know, but after you email them they send you a payment link. This is my payment link; I was able to get to the last screen once and it didn't take my card. Either it timed out or I entered a number wrong, but after that it gets this error every time on the second page.

>>8750403

......I'm just as confused as you are. I'm US size 8 and always order Japanese shoe size L. My foot size is 23.5 and this is the first time I'm seeing it as a size M (and yet US size 8 would be size L or bigger).

Might be easier to just email them and ask if the chart has a mistake in it. Failing that, ask if the shoes are bigger than normal Japanese sizing or if they're similar to normal Japanese shoe sizing. If it's similar to Japanese sizing, L size should actually be 24cm.

If the answer is still confusing, you can consider going one size up and then get ready to pad out the shoe with insoles, inserts and so on. I don't know if it'll be comfortable to have shoes that are too big, though.

>>8750456
Close the browser or try with another one. I've had this happen before when I accidentally clicked the wrong button, it wouldn't work until I opened with a new browser.

>>8750403
The Japanese sizes are in cm, you know your foot length in cm...just use the Japanese sizing?

There are so many different shoe size charts on the internet, so going by your real foot length is always the best option.

>>8750744
Thanks, but so far I've tried two different browsers and my phone and nada. Good to know it can be fixed, though, so hopefully they'll just send me a new link. I hope to try a new computer in a little bit as well.

Does anyone know "being lolita" on instagram? I keep seeing them liking everything and it gets me salty because for a general lolita fan page they only focus on safe efamous sweet lolitas and AP, it feels really one dimensional. If they were called 'beingsweetlolita" it would make sense. Hopefully it's just because the account is new and it will balance out.

BREAD PRINT BREAD PRINT BREAD PRINT BREAD PRINT BREAD PRINT BRE

>>8751024

AND IT'S GOT BUNNIES. FUCK YES. Thank you based anon for bringing this critical information to my attention.

/anyone have source?

>>8751024
CALM DOWN ANON

SWEET DEVIL RERELEASE
>mfw i wish i wasn't fucking broke

>>8751067
WHAT? NO. FUCK.

>>8751074
YES.
(FUCK.)

>>8751024
>read the text as "bready"

my body is bready

>>8751113
I'M NOT READY.

But seriously, I just placed a fairly sizeable pair of orders with Baby and Atelier Pierrot. I don't have the extra funds to get Sweet Devil now and that makes me so sad.

>>8751024
MY WARDROBE IS READY

>>8751132
UNDERRATED POST

Looking at getting a nice wig that will hold up and not tangle horribly for weekly use. I'm looking into Dream Holic, Pinkage and Gabalnara wigs. Anyone have any recommendations? I know Prima H is the best fiber for Gabalnara, but is "many yarns" or "supreme yarns" the best that Pinkage offers? Also, anyone have any experience with human hair wigs? Would it be worth it to just go for human hair at a physical shop? Thanks!

>>8751024
I need this what the hell

>>8751240
I 100% recommend brightele.
They're on rakuten.
Good price, skin top, not much shedding, really nice and easy to comb fibers.

>>8751245
Also like Bright Lele wigs quite a bit.

Gabalnara is nice, but some of their wigs tend to tangle pretty quickly. I have two from them, the original wig GLW based the Rhapsody on, and a pin-straight one. The frizzy wig is a mess of tangles in back every time I wear it more than an hour, so I've taken to wearing it in fluffy plaits to avoid that.

>>8751245
Are they natural looking? I'm looking for something that won't get spotted to use with regular clothes as well as lolita.

>>8751260
They're pretty good. If you know wigs, you'll spot one, but the average person won't know better.

I have one that I wear a lot because it's really comfortable. I wore it so frequently to meets that a few people thought was my real hair. Showed up without it one day and one of the girls demanded to know when I'd cut my hair.

>>8751270
ohh that's really promising. do you know what's the shipping time from their rakuten shop? i got a fucking ridiculous haircut and i need something to save me for the next few months.

>>8751278
I'm pretty sure they only do EMS like most Rakuten global shops, so 3-10 business days at the most depending on where you live? I went through their website via a shopping service for mine because I had other stuff I was ordering at the time, so I can't speak to their Rakuten service speeds.

But yeah. If you use a hair accessory to disguise the lack of a real/deep part, they're pretty darn convincing.

>>8751251
If I stuck to straight wigs from Gabalnara do you think I'd be okay? Bright Lele seems to be pretty limited on their skin-natural looking wigs (colors/style etc.)

>>8751278
Same, I fucked up my hair and I'm hoping to find a nice wig to wear when I'm not sporting a hat.

>>8751282
>>8751278
Most people think it's my real hair, so I think they're pretty convincing.
They ship super quickly! Pretty sure it's EMS but I don't remember -that- well.
You can also order stuff from their jp site btw I think you just have to email them about being overseas?

>>8751282
>>8751288
ohh i didn't know their japanese site shipped overseas! I'll give it a go, thanks anons. I'm actually moving in a week so EMS is ideal.

>>8751285
aww anon, i hope it isn't too bad. I basically got my front cut too short (above the ears..? wtf), so it'll be a while for me.

>>8751285
Possibly. I'd ask for more opinions, though. Both of the wigs I have are Prima-H fibre, but they act completely differently, so it could be down to a wig-by-wig basis. Pic related is the one I have that isn't a mess, so similarly styled ones might be ok.

How does everyone deal with having the local comm full of itas and fetishists? So tempted to give up right now but I love the fashion. Pic unrelated

>>8751503
get out and stop caring about that shit
if you don't want to deal with them then don't, and don't associate with them either
you can choose to ignore them you know, and you also don't need a comm to enjoy the fashion if you truly enjoy it
>pic related

>>8751508
At this point, might as well just give up and donate it.

>>8751024
Anons, there have been quite a few bread prints already.
Nevertheless, this is cute as fuck and there is a matching raincoat.
>http://tw.taobao.com/item/524223214197.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-10998544645.76.znERvn

>>8751024
I... I can't decide which color I like the most.

>>8751503
Seconding the other anon. Get out of that community, it sounds awful. You don't need a community to wear clothes. If you really like the community aspect, search around and see if there's another one near you. Usually areas with a good comm will have a token ita comm as well, so you might get lucky.

>>8751520
Its a jacket not a raincoat
The print is really cute, i'm super excited to get it.

>>8751574
Why no blue!?!? wtf

>>8751024
google translate is not very helpful today
>画手 @一条屁口
>面料:厚雪纺
>Hand painted a fart @ mouth
>Fabric: Thick Chiffon

Is thick chiffon correctly translated? Because it doesn't look very chiffon-y to me.. and very shiny

I know this skirt is a far, far cry from lolita but I don't really see any other jfashion related topics. But does anyone here know where this skirt is from?

>>8751688
I might be mistake, but it looks like Secret Honey?

does anyone have that drawing/reaction image of lolitas doing the slav squat? they were drawn in skirts and bonnets and stuff with the adidas stripes and everything

>>8751688
Why don't you send her an ask?
Agree with the other anon though, it looks like secret honey.

Are most Putumayo pieces really something you can just put in the normal wash? Any Putumayo owners can confirm this? I'm just trying to find some easy to wash lolita pieces to wear daily and Putumayo always seems to come up.

>>8751876
I own cutsews and skirts from then and you can easily wash it unless it's red + any other color than black. Go nuts

>>8751876
Yes, it's pretty much all fine apart from the obvious stuff like screen printed velvet/tulle and net overlays

>>8751010
I think most general lolita blogs are like this though, like lolitacoords on tumblr etc. But I agree it kinda sucks if you're not as into sweet.

how much value might the Sweet Devil rerelease retain once it's out? considering getting it, but i'm curious as to how the original value of such coveted dresses are affected by rerelease. I know AP can drop a lot but this is AATP, so...

So im running my first convention tea party, and i would love to make it as sucessful as possible. Could everybody please tell me from a gust perspective what you loved and hated from con tea parties in the past? What makes a great tea party for you? Ive hosted many regular meetups for my comm, but ive never had an oportunity to do a larger event like this. Thanks in advance!

>>8751958
Enough food/drinks so no one feel they should hold back but not so much that people feel overwhelmed

>>8751958
Once I went to a con teaparty where each table had a host who facilitated icebreaker games and chats, which was nice. Also if you have a special guest, don't just keep them behind a table, try walking them around for photo ops with the attendees.

>>8751958
no paper plates and kids party cups and napkins please.

Also if it's a tea party, then there should be a selection of tea

>>8751710
To quote anon: squatting with my comm whilst eating sunflower seeds, drinking cheap vodka and smoking outside of a deli, what else
I'm wearing my newest Adidas JSK

>>8751688
http://world.taobao.com/item/520850736960.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4002-9652414703.64.yMCTkz

I don't know if this is a reseller/replica or not though.

>>8751958
What is your event budget? I would place food and beverages as first priority, then factor in your set up and attendance and things such as place settings, decor, and games.
Keep in mind that seemingly small things such as paper print offs for games, writing utensils and place settings can add up quickly.
Also, consider making it a ticketed event with a dress code to keep mooching weebs looking for a free meal out.

Do skirts from Baby/Alice and the Pirates run a bit long compared to other brands? I recently bought their Gauche the cellist skirt and it looks really odd on me, but I'm also only 160cm.

I've bought skirts from Miho Matsuda and Moitie that look fine but I wasn't sure if this skirt just has an odd cut because there aren't really any posts online about it either.

>>8752038
Miho Matsuda and Moitie are usually the brands that run a bit short

>>8751958
Caffeine free options for those who prefer herbal teas or can't have caffeine are definitely a must. I would think two herbal options and at least one black tea would be best. They don't have to be pricy teas but definitely not Lipton or Tazo.

A decent amount of food but nothing especially heavy. Finger sandwiches, petit fours, maybe savory/sweet tarts, just small things like that. Tea/treat pairings can be really fun if you're able to figure that into your budget.

>>8751958
Definitely enough food/drink. I've been to too many con teaparties where they had something like 20-25 attendees and just one or two small platters of cookies and maybe 2 glasses worth to drink per person... Not really enough.

>>8752038
I have a few AATP pieces that are oddly short on me, but it seems to vary between releases. Haven't had that problem with the Baby side but I've also owned less pieces from them.

>>8752036
I'm a tad bit shorter than you. About 154 cm. Most of my dresses are from Baby or AATP and they hit right at the knees whereas my AP dresses are more at the top of my knees. I also have a long torso and average legs for my size if that helps.

>>8750376
Jingle Bell
Jingle Bell
Jingle all the way
Oh what fun is it to ride
nothing because i spent all my money on brand

>>8752080

>>8752038
Um AATP is generally the perfect length. I'm short but I hate when people have too much leg showing. Meta and AP skirts are way too short imo

>>8752062
Quoted the wrong person yo.

>>8752036
Uh.. you quoted the wrong post.

>>8752080
Same. At least we'll look good this Christmas.

Have any of you ever made Lolita friends online? Like, friends that you maybe met up with eventually at an event, or visited and keep in touch with regularly.

>>8751744
Her askbox is closed and there was nothing in her tags

So I want to get Lady Sloth's new clock series OP, but I've been losing weight for a while now and it looks like I won't reach my goal until March.

I'm not sure what I should do since all of her dresses are made to order to your exact measurements. I've never been as thin as I'm trying to get so I have no idea what my measurements will be. Should I just make a conservative guess, or try to find it secondhand or (?)

>>8752208
I met my gf of two years on cgl, and have talked to a few other lolitas online before meeting in person.

>>8751958
You are probably at the mercy of the hotel/venue for catering. And they'll probably suck and be expensive. A Hilton charged us $30-40 a person for black tea, punch, cut fruit, and dry scones

>>8752219
Could you get it made in your current measurements and get it taken in later?

>>8752208
Yep. I met one of my closest friends on cgl. We've been friends for a year now. I've met a few people IRL after chatting online first and it's always gone well.

>>8752219

Anon you have excellent taste, Lady Sloth's work is adorable! Do you know of any other Store envy/non-taobao shops?

>>8752302
I thought about that, but to get it professionally taken in would cost probably about as much as the actual dress, most likely, because her prices are always pretty low/reasonable, so I'm kinda hesitant to go that route...

>>8752336
Thanks! I only know of a few, not sure if they are on storenvy but none of them are on Taobao.

Phantom & the Maiden
Floral Notebook
Bunny House
MeLikesTea

Maybe I'm losing my marbles, but EGL is active again? New banner art, monthly themes, and a post almost every day the last while. Sure there are a lot of newbie posts, but when was that any different?

Was there a mass revival that I missed? I definitely want to get back to posting there and I was wondering if anyone here is interested in doing the same now that it seems to be getting off the ground again.

>>8752344
It was fun but it's over. Let it go.

>>8752338

Thanks anon!

>>8751998
THANK YOU ANON YOU'RE A TRUE BRO

seriously though I spent like a couple hours trying to find this and was going nuts and at one point questioned whether it was actually real and if I just dreamed about it or not.

>>8752370
Why? If it had been replaced with a better format, I'd agree with you, but cgl, FB groups, and the subreddit are hardly better than LJ, which was the hub for over a decade.

>>8752344
I like seeing egl active, but I always wonder when lolitas will get their act together and make a mega forum for lolita. Relying on social media has always caused the community to be kind of scattered.

>>8752435
That's the thing with LJ, everything was less scattered because it was the closest equivalent of a mega forum we had. Lolitaforums was always full of itas so it was never much use.

Lacebook was supposed to be the next thing after LJ, but the creators implemented a well-meaning but hugely flawed invite system, which was supposed to keep out itas, but just meant that nobody got invites, and then it just shut down mysteriously and "indefinitely".

There's literally no reason to not go back to LJ.

My best friend told me she wants to come to the local J-fashion swap with me. I'm going to dress her in a sweet/classic btssb dress that's not too ott that she said she liked. How can I best introduce it to her without making her uncomfortable? I've already linked the guide and she thinks it'll be fun, though she's nervous/self-concious about wearing it since she's super normalfag.

>>8752442
>literally no reason to not go back to LJ
how about it's really outdated

>>8752442
apparently they're working on a new updated Lacebook that will be released in a year or two? Kudos to anyone else who has free time and can make an equivalent version.

>>8752455
Maybe she is just saying that to be nice

>>8752656
Nah she asked me about it without any prompting.

>>8752609
Omg I hope it works. I hate every site except this one so far

Hey I have an important question. I've heard stories of women being groped on Japanese trains. The problem is so widespread, women only cars are operated on lines in Japan.

I'm a guy and will be dressed up in lolita on my trip to Tokyo in two weeks. I'm worried that some rando will grope me in my frills. Is it ok to use the women only car in this situation?

>>8752695
You should be more worried about jail time and upskirt shots

>>8752695
I don't know the stats for chikan incidents, but I think they are overblown in the media. You're probably fine and worried for nothing. You're a foreigner, dressed weirdly, and a dude, not some vulnerable japanese preteen. You are probably the worst target. Don't use the ladies car, you aren't one and they will think you're a pervert. Plus those are only for some lines.

>>8752695
The women-only cars are only at certain times anyway, like during the morning rush hour I think. I think it would be wrong to use it as a guy, just use your gaijin power and ride the normal car.

>>8752695
Statistically speaking, you're a horrible target. http://www.japantoday.com/category/lifestyle/view/women-who-attract-chikan-and-women-who-dont-an-illustrated-guide

>>8752695

Seconding women-only car being only at rush hour, they're not on every line either.

You're honestly better off wearing normie clothes and finding a place to change into at your venue. Some of the older, smaller train stations feature narrow staircases, narrow escalators, narrow ticket turnstiles, etc. It can be tricky to navigate in a poofy skirt, let alone a poofy expensive dress while being lost and looking for where you're going.

>>8752810

>gaijin power

this might be a dumb question, but how do you wear berets and make them stay in place? whenever i wear them they just slip off.

Can i vent for a moment?
I dont know how the fuck merry making in the ghost town always photographs as navy when it is clearly purple. Same with Porz Kerchief. That shit is gucking purple. But then aatp has ACTUAL navy dresses, and the difference is like night and day in a sode by sode comparison! Pic very fucking related.

>>8753129
Some of mine have combs inside and the others I just pin into place with bobby pins.

Is there anyone here who falls in the middle of the two lief sizes? Which one do you pick? I am 88cm bust and 67 cm waist, so I'm right on the edge small enough for s/m but don't wanna look like an overstuffed sausage

>>8753249
I was inbetween sizes too so I sized up, but then I was swimming in the L/XL when I got it so I had to sell it. Definitely go for the S/M, their shirring is pretty forgiving, imo.

>>8753144
Chill out anon, it's not that big of a deal.

Nice potato pic

>>8753252
Thank you!

>>8753259
Different anon, but it kind of is. I bought a shit ton of navy items to go with Porz Kerchief when I finally won it in an auction, but when it arrived it didn't match anything because it's purple. I didnt have anything else navy at the time so i couldnt use any of my navy accessories with anything else and I finally had my dream dress, but nothing to coord it with.

>>8753129
I use bobby pins to secure mine, but the wool ones usually stay on pretty well because they have some stretch.

>>8753155
>>8753323
thanks for the replies, just out of curiosity- how do you guys pin it down? do you put the bobby pin onto the beret?

>>8753390
I just slide it through my hair and onto the sides of the beret, it's visible but not a big deal imo.

>>8753390
>>8753404
Same here, slide them into my hair and sides of the beret.
Sometimes I try to match the colour of the bobby pins to the beret, but that's obviously easier with colours like black and brown.

>>8752338
Where are you getting your alterations done?
I got an entire dress taken in by like 5 inches and it cost me 20 dollars.

>>8753280
Why would you buy things before verifying the shade of the dress in person? That's a little dumb, if my honest. Photos are always going to be off in color.

>>8753532
*if I'm

Pics of the AP Party, with some new dresses. I'm glad I like none of these

Hope that the cherry ones don't release in march when I'm over there

Cecilia Cross Pink

>>8753573
Cecilia Cross Navy

>>8753577
Cecilia Cross sax

>>8753581
Strawberry Garland

>>8753584
Wrapping Cherry?

>>8753586
Charlotte Bear, collab with Imai Kira. Looks sorta like Baby's LP to be honest.

>>8753431
Well apparently I'm getting ripped off lol

I had sleeves taken in once and it cost me nearly $50

>>8753588
ah fuck

>>8753584
So pumped for this. AP Strawberry prints are my weakness

has anyone who placed an order with uniqso during their bf sale received tracking or their items yet?

the post has not been scanning any of my packages and i'm starting to worry if any of them will get here before i move in two weeks.

Quick question. I'm waiting on a parcel from a seller, and they shipped it DHL. The tracking shows the parcel as "shipment information received". What does that even mean? Has it even technically shipped yet? I hate DHL..

>>8753573
Where was this? Mainland China?

How do people feel about girls who put wardrobe albums up on Facebook? I mean its nice to look at collections, but it seems like bragging?

What style of collar is this? It's so damned beautiful. Being sold on WW.

>>8754166
>being this idiotic
wardrobe posts/albums have always been a thing, where the hell have you been? hell, come january everyone's going to be posting them
if you don't like them then don't look at them. not everyone uses them for bragging purposes so stop acting like they do, usually only the famewhores do that. everyone else does it to showcase their collection in general while everyone else does, some collectors like to do it for organizing purposes, etc.

>>8753982
Nope, information received means they've bought the postage and scheduled the pickup, are waiting for DHL to come get it.

>>8754168
Seems sort of sailor inspired?

>>8754166

I have mine because I'm usually open to trades when I sell stuff and it helps to have an album on hand of everything I have already. It's also cool to have a solid list of everything I have laid out in front of me for coord purposes etc.

>>8754168

WW?

So Btssb is releasing reservations for their LPs and this will be my first time ordering from Baby and I have read their overseas FAQ but I am afraid to fuck up and be blacklisted (And I do get paid two days after reservations). Will the LPs be posted on the San Fran or NYC webshop later on? Will it be popular enough that the LPs get sold out before the 12/15 JP time when the reservations end?

>>8754236
You usually have a period of time after they send you the confirmation email to pay. For Baby, it's 10 days after they send you the email.

This LP is projected to be popular, so I suggest you go for it, and pay for it once you get paid.

>>8753592
That is pretty underwhelming, honestly.

>>8754216
Wunderwelt

>>8754216
Wunderwelt

>>8754216
wunderwelt im guessing

>>8754168
Cape collar, if round in back. modified sailor if square.

WUNDERWELT

>>8753249
Seconding >>8753252
I have the same measurements as you and bought an L/XL once. It was massive on me, definitely go for the S/M

>>8753577
The print looks like it should have blingees on it and be on a Myspace page, especially the bottom parts

>>8753431
Thats cheap as hell.

>>8754211
How fast is DHL usually? I haven't ordered in so long, I usually have things shipped to me EMS but this is coming from Hong Kong to the US so they used DHL. I wanted the things for this coming Saturday (how fucked am I?!)

>>8754471
Not sure, I never use them because I know they're one of the only shipping methods that will get you hit by customs in the USA. Godspeed, anon.

So I was just thinking... There's that one shop in Tokyo that let's you try on lolita right? What if someone did the same thing but traveled to cons and had a booth where you could try on a dress and maybe get a wig and accessories too? And before you take it all off you get to take pics and stuff. Shoes would be a no go because you would need a pair in every size to go with each coord but other then that. Thoughts?

>>8754475
Fuck my life. Never again. Well, if you hear screaming in a few days you'll know it's me.

>>8754471
The last time I used them for taobao stuff and it was the same as EMS. Never got hit by customs and I'm in the US too.

>>8753592
I'm sorry but this sucks for an Imai Kira print.

>>8754475
What are you talking about? I love DHL more than EMS. I use it on default for mandarake and it's quicker

>>8754117
Tokyo. At AP's Luminous Night Festival.

>>8754483
No. Greasy weebs would steal/destroy your stock in a single day.

>>8754556
I was thinking of making a few rules, such as having everyone be measured by me beforehand so they don't try on dresses I know they can't fit, and that way people who aren't really interested won't be able to just browse the rack and take something when I'm not looking. Also a no bodypaint rule. And if they cause any damage to the dress they would have to pay for repairs/cleaning.

>>8754586
>And if they cause any damage to the dress they would have to pay for repairs/cleaning.
diff anon but lmao good luck enforcing that tbqh

>>8754603
She could require that they have to put a credit card on file first so if something happens she can charge it. Or they have to put money up front for any possible damages. Like a deposit.

>>8754603
Just make them put down a credit card before. Just like hotels do.

>>8754666
>>8754667
again, good luck enforcing that, especially at a con full of young weebs who probably don't even have cards nor money

>>8754689
Then I guess they wouldn't be allowed to put on or browse the rack of the dresses when they have no collateral.

>>8754475
I've only caught customs by ordering from asos lmao. But it was only once out of like 5-6 times and a few years ago before all their dresses went to shit material

>>8754603
This anon might have a point. It might not be worth it to even do this. I can see a lot of con goers saying never mind when they realize they will be held responsible and have to put up a deposit first in case they mess up something.
And it wouldn't really get any lolitas because they already wear the fashion. Maybe if the booth had rare and sought after prints then you could draw in lolitas too, but overall it seems like it wouldn't really be worth it.

>>8754513
>>8754524
>>8754703
OP here. Well, I guess maybe it depends on where you live? I've only had on DHL order ever and I live in a tiny town in the midwest. The driver couldn't locate my house -new development that didn't show up on GPS- and it was murder trying to get my package from them. So, I'm hoping for the best this time.
I'm just pissed my package hasn't shipped yet. My SS said it was shipped on the 4th. Maybe the tracking # isn't updating? Just praying for a short turn around time or it ruins my coord for this Saturday.

is it just me or is this taobao brand ripping off AP's Melty Cream Doughnuts....

>this especially

>>8754603
>>8754666
>>8754667
>>8754689
>>8754699
>>8754716
When I was a young weeb I had a debit card. It was tied to my dad's account and I would save up money from odd jobs and have him deposit it in my account. And there are enough adults who go to cons who would be interested in at least trying it. So with that said, if I had them put the card on file first I can avoid the deposit and still cover my ass if something should happen to a dress.

I just think it would be nice to have something like that travel to different conventions because it makes lolita a lot more accessible. Kind of like that manga library that travels to cons. And then with the profits I can save up money to buy some rare pieces that will attract actual lolitas. It's a win win for everyone. And maybe it'll save a few girls from becoming itas because they'll have at least seen how nice brand is and will never want to buy from Milanoo.

>>8754813
... they look nothing alike

>>8754874
I agree anon. I think it'd be fun for new lolitas and if you have interesting backdrops with good lighting, maybe for a small fee let lolitas use it purely for good photos.

Is anyone in Japan right now that's going to baby soon? Or anyone in NY/ SF? I'd prefer Japan because of prices but wherever is fine. I wondered if you could look for my dream dress that's sold out online in the colors I want. I have the money I just haven't seen it for sale literally anywhere

>>8754945

You might want to mention what shopping services/areas you already tried. Assuming you already tried chibitenshi (Sendai) and Tokyo Pirates (Tokyo), I guess that means you're looking for gulls who aren't going to either area?

>>8754166
>>8754213
Pretty much this. It's useful to be able to plan things out without having to physically go look in my closet and drawers. Most of my Facebook friends are normalfags that don't care anyway.

>>8754166
I used to not get the point of wardrobe posts until I put one together myself and saw how useful it is. Personally I find that laying out all the pieces you own makes it much easier to see what needs to be replaced or added to your wardrobe to make it more cohesive.

>>8755053
>>8755069

I'm considering making one, but I was wondering how people usually do. Do you include everything in it or is it mostly main pieces/blouses/shoes/bags?

>>8755083
If you're using stock photos from brands it's probably easier to stick to main pieces and other items that you can find easily; otherwise I think that simply taking pictures of your items works just as well (though obviously it takes more effort than just finding stock photos).

>>8754945
>sold out online
They can pull stock from stores if you message them

>>8752344
A new post almost once a day... in EGL's prime, there would be usually half a dozen posts a day. A slow day would be 2 or 3.

>>8754896
>the chocolate hearts, ap and MCD have artwork/jewelry pretty much exactly like that shape/style
>the cutlery, particularly the spoon with the ribbon

>>8754945
I'm from NY anon, what are you looking for? I can call into my store and ask if they have whatever you want in stock.

>>8754198
>it's not bragging, don't be idiotic!
>it's just showing off!
Wait, so what's the difference?

>>8755090
Thanks! I don't have a camera that's even half decent so I think I'll stick to stock photos.

>>8755135
>>8754166
For organization/selling/etc purposes more than anything.
idk how you're that salty that seeing someone else's wardrobe makes you jelly but I think it's interesting.
also this >>8755069

>>8755139
I have a wardrobe album too, but it's private so only I and certain close friends can see it. I just think it's silly to pretend that having the entire contents of your closet open to the public isn't showing off in some way. Personally whenever I post about a new acquisition I get messages from people begging me to sell it to them which is annoying as fuck, so I can't even imagine having everything out there. It's not like I only buy coveted releases, either. People are just thirsty and I don't need that shit in my inbox.

>>8755083
I took pictures of each of my main pictures individually, then did the rest in groups based on item type. (All blouses in one picture, cutsews in another, socks, tights, necklaces, etc)

>>8755142
diff but here's how to avoid that anon.
>keep your purchases private, too.
>have a disclaimer that you're not interested in selling anything until you are, so please don't ask. if they ask anyway, ignore that shit or remove their ass.
not everything is about bragging and famewhoreism. stop being so insecure and just let people display their wardrobes how they'd like, ffs. hell, some do it just to show their love of the fashion by showing what they have and love, they could care less about bragging rights. some do it because others like their friends or observers are simply curious. by saying this you might as well ban all of egl's January wardrobe posts, which is also unsurprisingly a highly anticipated event by many, especially people here on cgl. just keep your damn album private if you want and let everyone else do what they want in regards to their wardrobe albums, too.

Buttcape's blog is suddenly empty, which means not only have we lost the best guide to ouji, but her post about what happened at Anime Matsuri. Does anyone know what's going on? Did anyone save the AM post?

>>8755182
What's going on with Buttcape?

>>8755126
lol do you also think CDC and the Bodyline carousel dress are exactly alike?

>>8755126
Cutlery with ribbon isn't exactly innovative thinking. Even AP got that from somewhere else

>>8754514
Amen! It just looks so basic and more could have been done with the background in my opinion.

>>8755184

I just turn off anon messaging, refuse unknown friends requests and use the ban/ignore function if I find someone annoying. Only had someone message me to buy a dress once, and that was on a dress I said I was considering selling anyway.

As for online wardrobes, consider this: the whole point of being in an online community is to be able to find other girls who share our interest. The keyword here is "share". It isn't just about new releases and shopping, sometimes we want to be able to talk about old dresses, what we dislike about some dresses, compare notes, find out the real colour vs the brand's stock photos, and so on. And the wardrobe being open for public viewing helps spark discussion: you can ask the owner questions about particular items, bond over dresses you both have, discover dresses you didn't know existed, and so on. If you got a friends request from someone and all they had up was an online wardrobe and a wishlist, at the very least you know what kind of lolita they are/like. In contrast, if you got a request from someone with nothing on their blog, well, personally I'd be a lot more dubious that they're even into lolita.

I think there's a huge difference between plugging your online wardrobe in every single thread going "LOOK AT MY HOARD LOOK AT ME" vs simply having an online wardrobe open for public viewing so that they don't need to log in and change permissions everytime they want to show it to someone for whatever reason.

>>8755126
Knock that off, this is just like all the people comparing every print involving cats and tea to CTP. The dresses aren't even remotely similar.

>>8755265
This. I like sharing pictures of my dresses because I can find people who collect the same types of prints I do, or who have a similar style and I have actually made some friends that way. I also like to get inspired by seeing nice wardrobes, or seeing what dresses look like. Just don't be obnoxious about it.

>>8755265
i was so confused before realizing you responded to the wrong post, lol

>>8754483
I dunno. sounds like a cute idea in theory but I think it's really too much work, and the stuff you have to do to protect your stock will be either hard to enforce or very off-putting for people. as for >>8754874 I guess it really depends on how young, since I remember some young weebs never having a debit card and I myself never having one either. a lot of weebs, even if they're in high school with some sort of job, are the types who just show up to cons with like $75 in cash and that's it.

anyways besides that, how feasible is this from both an economic and physical perspective?

like first of all, where are you gonna get the dresses from? are you gonna spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on buying stuff for this or is it coming from your own wardrobe? are you expecting people to just donate clothes? are you charging them for photos like a photobooth or are they taking their own pics? how sanitary will this be - with trying on hats/wigs you run the risk of things such as lice, and what about people who have BO who have tried on dresses and the scent remains afterward, or people who sweat all over blouses and dresses? the clothing would need to be cleaned after each convention, some potentially at the end of each day. while lolita clothing can fit a variety of sizes, there are gonna be some people who just don't fit the bill for what you have on hand. are you prepared to deal with angry morbidly obese weebs? booth space costs a lot of money too, and that's gonna be a lot of space needed for a dressing area plus storage for people to put their clothes/cosplays down somewehre, plus clothing racks/shelves/tables/whatever plus the photobooth area. if you're taking photos, all that equipment - cameras, a laptop, photoprocessing software, different backgrounds, props if you want them, etc. is all gonna add up too.

>>8755296
I forgot to add, but don't forget there's gonna be a lot of wear and tear on those dresses after awhile as a result of people constantly tugging at them, pulling them on and off, touching them, being stored and transported, etc. there is potential for things to become lost or damaged in transport and storage as well.

>>8754960
I haven't tried a SS since I would rather use someone that is already going to a store anyway (to cut out the travel fee, especially if it's not in stock in the store. I would just pay whoever buys it whatever small fee they want on top of the purchase price). As long as nobody thinks that's weird. I definitely should try emailing the JP store, wish I had thought of that.
>>8755130 pastoral in the green grass firomera jsk in green or navy.

>>8755341
Yea, that is really weird. The SS would email first and then go when it is in stock

>>8755341
hey anon, sent you an email!

>>8755277

Whoah. I didn't even realise until you pointed out.

>>8755265 is meant for >>8755142

Sorry, my bad.

Apperantly also a new AP print? At least it was postet as such on Lolita Updates (FB).
I'm confused that there is text on a few elements, but no huge Angelic Pretty or AP like they normally do. That's making me doubt that it really is an new AP print.

>>8755448
I can make out the words "Baked Sweets Parade" on the bottom right can but that's it, huh.
Is it possible this could also be a taobao print or?
>also dat sceptre
It does look like AP though.

>>8755457
the necklace clearly says "Angelic Preygexxe" or some shit

>>8755448
>mfw I also just saw
if you look on the doughnut on the chest bow it does say Angelic Pretty, so yup, definitely AP.

>>8755448
So do we think people will go nutso for this one since it is kind of reminiscent of MCD?

>>8755448
I really like that!!! It isn't my style at all but on a cuter girl it will look great. I hate when brands put their logo all over, it is clearly AP from the details

>>8755467
I'm wondering the same
I'm also wondering if the value of it or MCD will stay/become low because of it
>mfw I like both so I'd be all right with either one, but getting one at a lower secondhand value would be a bonus

>>8755457
>>8755463
She's wearing the melty cream doughnut necklace, it's not on the dress.

For some odd reason right below the necklace there is some kind of a blurry stripe, as someone tried to block anything out.

I just bought a dress from alice fururun, and it still has the tag attached to it, which I thought was odd. Is it normal for people to leave tags on when they wear something?

Also the dress is white (Moitie's Holy Angel) and there seems to be a bit of yellowing around the inner neckline and some of the lace at the neckline, anyone know the best way to get rid of it, should I just spot clean with some standard stain remover?

>>8755595
This happened to me with an Atelier Pierrot dress from CC, the tag was still attached and perfectly intact. I'm not sure if someone wore it with the tag on or gave it in to CC without ever wearing it.

>>8754813
The first lolita donut print was by Dear Celine, a Taobao brand, so if you're going to reach that far, AP copied a taobao brand.

>>8752609
Bets on that it's another ~exclusive circle~ with a flawed invite system.

>>8755296
These are all really good points, and I'll definitely have to think about them seriously if and when I begin, but part of me still wants to do it.

As far as clothes I am completely prepared to spend time and money collecting the pieces. It wouldn't be an overnight process obviously. And at the start the dresses wouldn't be all NWT brand, lots of secondhand that's been marked down. I don't think I'd charge extra for photos or bother with a photo booth, I would just let them use their phone to take pics and assist when needed.

The wig/hat issue is a good point. If I had a bunch of disposable wig caps and threw them away after, do you think that would work? If not then I can just nix the wigs all together and just let them wear the dress.

If I stick with filing the card beforehand option (and if that stops the young weebs from getting to try stuff on so be it, there are enough adults that it won't make much difference) and they make the dress stink I can charge them for that. I'll make sure that's posted along with my no bodypaint rule and maximum sizing info.

Speaking of max sizing, if I'm willing to let my wallet take the plunge with everything else, I should have no problem just buying a lot of Haenuli and supplementing with custom sized dresses I've ordered with purposefully large measurements. With that I should be able to fit the average fatty chan and maybe even have one or two dresses for true hambeasts. If I have to turn people away after that, so be it, and at least I'll have taken their measurements down and can use them as reference for buying even larger stock.

It probably isn't the most financially lucrative operation, and it would mean a massive amount of effort on my part, but I can't stop thinking about seeing the look of pure happiness on someone's face after trying on their first lolita dress. That alone would be worth it for me.

Is it rude to remind buyers to leave feedback with a follow up message ? Even with putting a note in with the item 'let me know this reaches you' etc, I would say only 30% of my buyers actually leave any.

>>8755669
Nah, I don't think it's rude. Do you like said and just be like "Just wanted to make sure you received the item - if so, could you please leave feedback?"

>>8755673
>Do you like said

It's been a long day.

>>8755677
It's okay anon, I got what you meant. Have a lie down.

>>8755669
I don't think it's rude. Sometimes people just forget, and as long as you're polite about it 9/10 they'll leave feedback.

>>8755448
I honestly don't think this is AP, mainly due to the lack of their name anywhere. I also feel like the print is lacking the small detailing that AP puts into their designs.

>>8755730
>mainly due to the lack of their name anywhere
read the thread before dribbling your opinion out

>>8755657
>and they make the dress stink
here's the thing though, how can you prove that it stinks? because a lot of people can't smell their own BO (due to being used to it) and multiple weebs with BO could have tried on that dress. not to mention some smells don't linger until later on when the smell sets in. pointing fingers over this kind of issue would probably never work with a weeb.

>>8755657
Anon, I like you. I wish there were more people in the lolita community willing to try new things for the fashion.

>>8755756
also BO can be smelt from anywhere in a vendor room lbr

>>8755730
the necklace says AP, anon

>>8755756
>tell a weeb they have to pay because they stank
>inb4 HOW DARE YOU YOU BITCH / PROVE IT / I'M FILING A CHARGEBACK / I HAVE CHRONIC SWEATING ISSUES YOU'RE BEING ABLEIST (that's actually a legit thing tho too)

hey anon, she's wearing a necklace from another release, as >>8755479 said


also, this is definitely AP, this girl modeled in the fashion show and i remember seeing some lace with AP embroidery.

>>8755767
oops i meant to reply to >>8755762 . polite sage

>>8755762
because you obviously can't wear an AP necklace with a radom dress.

Do we even know the where this photo has been made?

>>8755772
this photo was taken from the personal instagram of one of the models from the AP event. I don't know why whoever posted to facebook did not include this detail.

No confirmation from the model about the print. She just talks about how cute AP is.

All that AP talk reminded me that we are still waiting on the promised 2nd round of the Holy Latern MTO, not to forget the promised rereleases. Only Dolly Cat was rereleased, Luminous sanctuary and a thrid one are still missing.

>>8755787
following up on this, i suspect it says angelic pretty in the circled areas of pic related. maybe that's why we don't see it immediately on the print from afar? iirc the lace also has AP embroidery.

>tfw secretly hoping they will rerelease the donut jewelry with this

>>8755657
This is really quite a lucrative-sounding idea, just don't be afraid to micromanage customers to keep the dresses nice

>>8755764
Charge everyone 5$ to try on things that will be credited toward any purchase

>>8755797
Bless your detective work, anon.

>>8754524
>>8754730
There's been multiple reports in the past of people using DHL (and Fedex) getting customs bills in the US, and it happened to a friend and I when we GO'd something via DHL once as well. Because they're couriers, not the actual postal service, they will charge customs more freely. It's not an every-time thing but it does happen and not even to very large orders, I think ours was a little over $50 something.

>>8755797
The thing you circled on the right 100% says PARADE
I think the lace on the straps says AP though.

>>8755820
They are referring to the hella small pink scribble that can be made out as Angelic Pretty

>>8755820
sorry, i was trying to point out the blurry pink bit under parade- the shape looks like the right casing for the phrase Angelic Pretty

>>8755182
I have no idea, but someone can go through the wayback machine and copy the guide/her account if they want to?

>>8755787
Don't have the models to blur out the dress when they are posting unreleased prints? I can't remeber an AP print spoilered by a model this badly.

>>8755822
>>8755823
Oh I see. yeah it does seem like it says Angelic Pretty under there.
>>8755842
The post was deleted so I'm assuming the model messed up

>>8755842
i think so, i don't know why she posted like this actually. she's an idol normally, so maybe she didn't know?

>>8755843
i don't think it's deleted? i saved the original anyways just in case

>>8755448
I love AP and donut prints, but I really dislike something about this dress. Not sure if it's the cut and bows or how weirdly flat and almost cartoony the print looks.

>>8755808
.....that's actually a good idea
would help pay for other damages, too
and even weebs can afford $5 usually

>>8755772
someone else on the lolita updates thread who seems to have been at the fashion show has said
>"This is Baked Sweets Parade, part of the pink label collection from the fashion show. The other colorway I think was mint. Surely there will be another two colorways once it officially releases."

>>8753589
Sleeves are much more difficult to tailor than waists. Also, tailor prices vary depending on cities

>>8755099
More like at least double that. Sigh.

>>8755808
this isn't a bad ideal at all, since I agree with >>8755756 that proving it is going to be hard and just not gonna bode well with weebs.

>>8755657
after all that if you're still willing to try and make it work then, hey, go for it. it really does sound like a cute idea, just be smart about how much time and money you're gonna invest in this because you definitely will be investing a lot of your own time and money in it.

I don't know how much money you have but it may be best to set out a budget sheet first because even with just like, 5 dresses and some accessories, there's still booth space and transportation costs and this sounds like it will easily cost you over $1000 to start up.

As for wigs/hats and lice, honestly just don't even bother, especially with wigs. Nits can remain on people's clothes, lice can hop around, if someone is standing in line with lice the people standing around them have a chance of getting it too because of the way lice jump, buts wigs/hats will make it easiser. It may be easier to find some kind of sanitary cap etc for hats. This is something I just thought of but legwear may be an issue too - tights are a little too up close and personal for me to want to try on after someone else has just worn them, socks are a bit better but there's also the risk of spreading like foot fungi around. I dunno what you're gonna do about shoes since you said it'd wouldn't be possible to have so many sizes in so many different colors and styles but I would try getting at least like........basic black tea parties or something in a variety of sizes perhaps and those throw-away sock thingies in shoe stores for trying stuff on.

good luck anon, I still can't say I'm convinced as to how well this will work out but I do admire your willingness to try anyway. I would also test it out at some small, local conventions initially as well and try to do feedback cards or something if/when you can.

>>8755890
sounds legit, cause that's exactly what it says on the dress, baked sweets parade. I couldn't make out the second word at first but I know I could see "baked" and "parade".

still waiting on initial confirmation just cause the art seemed a little less AP-y to me, idk why, maybe it's just the quality of the picture.

>>8755847

Yeah, I love donuts but I'm not sure if this is as cute as MCD. But donuts...my one true weakness (and so few donut prints out there).

>>8755448

I'm hoping it comes in Ivory and there's a cute OP cut. I have MCD in the pink JSK, but the OP that came out then was also super cute, and this will fill that void.

>>8754813
I see literally no similarity, this print isn't even really doughnuts.

Based Chibi Tenshi coming through with more deets on new AP releases.
http://tenshishop.com/angelic-pretty-tokyo-luminous-night-carnival-tea-party-2015/

>>8756047
when the fuck do we get that video though
(i fear for my wallet)

>>8755756
>>8755757
>>8755764
>>8755807
>>8755808
>>8755858
>>8755995
Thank you all for your input. I know I might rub a few tumblrinas the wrong way in the process but they can't say anything bad about me that hasn't been said before so I don't mind haha.

Yeah the start up cost is the only real obstacle for me. But if I make a budget sheet like >>8755995 suggested I'm pretty sure I can do it, it would just be a slow process. I don't imagine I'd do legwear because as you said it's just a bit gross, especially if lots of girls keep trying them on. And with the lice issue I'll just nix the wigs/hats and maybe just stick to headbands, bows, etc. Next time Bodyline has a big sale I'll buy a bulk order of shoes so that solves my shoe problem for the most part. If someone has feet that are too big then I'll just take a knees up photo for them.

Doing a test run at a small con is a great idea. There are a few in my area so it would be really easy to do. I'm pretty sure I can also rope my friend in as an assistant to help with some of the setup, transportation, and to help watch the booth.

I'm getting really excited about this. I know some people suggested charging $5 but honestly I was thinking of charging $15 to cover the cost of cleaning and so I break even on the booth. Thoughts?

>>8756112
$15 seems a bit much just for trying something on. That could pay for a newbie's shipping on a dress when you think about it.
Maybe round it out to $7 or $8?

>>8755457
I read that as Baked Sweet Potato

>>8756047
>magic princess
>melty sky

welp, I know what I'm saving up for now

>>8756112
Well, you do lose all sense of money at a con, but $15 isn't going to happen. In my mind, <$10 is a "low" price, I'd have to stop and think before I spend over that
I think this is a bad idea but I'm impressed by your determination!
I say $10 but $12 if you really really have to.
To cut down on costs, why not create really simple color schemes so all the pieces mix and match? Like obvioualy goth is all black but maybe get sweet prints either in black or with black? Get a classic dress that coords with black well. Only versatile black shoes in size 6, 8, 10. I'd say start small and get lots of bodyline.
That being said, weebs love pastel vomit and getting to try on pastel vomit Real Angelic Pretty!!! would be a huge deal to a lot of girls. I'd focus on that.
I'd also say get a nice mirror and backdrop and at least one light source. You want to make it seem like its worth it to the customer as well.
Good luck, anon!

>>8755790

I was waiting on Luminous Sanctuary for so long, finally caved and got one off yja. Dolly Cat kinda bombed, there's still a lot of low-waisted jsks left in the shop, so I suspect that might have put them off re-releasing the other two. It's a bummer, I would have liked to add Castle Mirage to my wardrobe.

>>8756061

>16 new releases

I need to just cut up all my debit and credit cards now huh

>>8756175
>Magic Princess
>Aquarium Carnival
my body is ready

>>8755657
I think if you want to bring joy to weebs with their first lolita dress, it would be way, way more feasible if you just bought a stock of decent bodyline or taobao dresses and sold them with a modest markup. You can have a fitting room too, so people can still try stuff on, and if it gets smelly you can just shoot febreeze at it. Your booth just sounds like an awkward experience IMO, why would I want to pay/put down a deposit to try on clothes that I can't even buy? 99% of people would be too intimidated/inconvenienced by all that rigamarole to even bother

>>8756047
what are the chances of any of these coming out in January or February? i need more money, fuck.
hoping more for a March and onwards timeframe.

>>8756164
Definitely what this anon said about starting out simple - try to pick just a few basic color schemes so you can make the most of your money and a smaller closet, similar to the advice newbies get when trying to build their wardrobe. I'm thinking something like black, pink, sax, and white/ivory/etc?
starting off, maybe try some plain shirred pieces and add in just a few prints here and there. definitely take advantage of bodyline too - a lot of people are constantly selling cheap BL in sales groups and certain BL pieces weebs would really enjoy. I would also try to make a WTB or search for sales for items people are trying to desperately get rid of, as you can get some good deals that way.

>>8756191
You could do something like this and focus on the dress up and coordinating aspects of it. Maybe put together bundles of a dress and matching accessories so they can get the "full look"

>>8756191
I was about to suggest this too - for all the money you're putting into it and the high possibility you won't or will only just barely break even on the booth cost, I think you would be better off having a booth with low-cost dresses where you are allowed to try stuff on.

I mean, think of it, it only makes sense - you get a weeb that's so excited to try a dress on, they see themselves and they feel super good and think they look really cute, and they think about how much they want to buy that dress. There's appeal in selling BL and taobao stock with modest markup, too - weebs don't have to go through the initial trouble (not until later at least) towards figuring out to buy these items themselves or waiting for a very long time. Heck, you could even create packs/sets after awhile.

>>8756191
Spraying fabric with fragrance is horrible for it

>>8756216
Selling things second hand online is one thing but I feel like if you started buying in bulk from brands you'd turn yourself into some kind of pop up shop and that's likely to anger a company whose money you are making...

>>8756350
I've seen booths selling infanta and bodyline at cons before, I'm not sure how they would know or really care since you already paid them retail price for the items

>>8756112
I honestly think $15 is fine, look at the huge markups noobs pay for "lolita" dresses at cons. But I really think you should give them a nice photo op or why would they pay to just put it on?
Once past your initial starting costs, I like the idea better than follow suit, become another markup lolita booth.

Ok but guys

This print is great

>>8756140
I would wear a Baked Sweet Potato print

>>8756397
>I would wear a Baked Sweet Potato print
you would, anon. you would.

>>8756047
Anyone got links to these photos she's talking about?

>>8756112
15 would only be OK if the full amount is credited toward a dress and you provide a very nice photo op. If it's halfass at all, 10 would be the most that would be reasonable

>>8756397

Oh my god so would I...and I'd make a butter necklace and wear a shiny tinfoil-looking metallic beret.

Chive rings with bacon bits...I need help anons, I do.

>>8756456
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>>8756458

Man, If I could sew and had the money to buy high quality supplies there would be so much crazy shit I'd make.

Seagull inspired coord, bread shoes, salt shaker handbag, blue JSK with waves and gulls, OTT feather epaulets or headband

Baked potato coord as mentioned above, called "The Cutest Potato", there would be a gap in the skirt filled with white ruffled layers like the inside of a potato with butter-yellow lace trim

Berries of all sorts, but not strawberries or raspberries. Blueberries! Blackberries! Scone purse accessories, berry berets with little stems and leaves up top!

And the historical fashions! Oh god yes, the true roccoco gowns with historically accurate materials and colors! The aristo for men in all sorts of pastels just like the French court would have worn! No more limitations to dull black or harlequin tights, bring back embroidered birds and elegant satins!

I want to design, but I cannot create. Why live?

>>8756504
>The aristo for men in all sorts of pastels just like the French court would have worn! No more limitations to dull black or harlequin tights, bring back embroidered birds and elegant satins!
yessss

>>8756350
I've seen people selling BL and secondhand items like a shop at booths at conventions all the time. I really don't think anyone gives a shit once the company has gotten their money. In general, many brands don't give a shit about shops selling their items as a middle man as long as they get the money i.e. think of shops like Glitzy Wonderland and Lolita Collective that purchase and resell or directly work with taobao and indie brands on selling items in the US.

>>8756047
I'm really curious about the last two, Antoinette Princess and Antoinette Decoration. I wonder if we'll get historical accessories or if the silhouettes will have a rococo influence.

>>8756504
>Baked potato coord as mentioned above, called "The Cutest Potato", there would be a gap in the skirt filled with white ruffled layers like the inside of a potato with butter-yellow lace trim

It's a sad life when I'm happy I dislike an AP release

>>8756350
even with markup you aren't really going to make *that* much money as an unaffiliated seller, and esp if you are someone selling things at a con
at best it seems like you would make enough money to support the cost of inventory, the booth, and travel.

if you're just selling at random conventions in the US I also seriously doubt you're gonna be making enough bank to anger any brand lol

>>8756557
poor mans toy march.

this is just reminding me that i will never have the toy march parka...

>>8756562
funny you say that anon, toy march is like my favorite print and when I saw that I was vaguely reminded of it, which makes me kinda want it. I really like AP's xmas-y toy prints.

if people dislike it then more for me; are there enough people who hate it where there will be some jsk's left instock in january?

>>8756578

AP is always a tough call, sometimes you'll have unanimous hits with western and Japanese customers, or it will sway one way and still sell out.

I can't remember what the recent print was (something with boxes and ribbons), but it looked like the English community unanimously hated it, and it still sold out in minutes, so clearly the Japanese Lolita's dug it.

I personally think this print is hideous, but I've seen similar prints sell out quickly. If you have to really question if you want to buy it, you should probably wait for better photos and feel like owning it 100%

>>8756504
I need The Cutest Potato

I wanna wear a pad of butter on my head though!

I would no joke, pay brand prices for something like that. Someone, please please design this or create this

>>8756658
I can sew but can't envision what that anon meant at all. Unless she meant like how IW does those dresses with a printed overskirt and white ruffled underskirt exposed in the front

>>8756661
Original anon come back and draw what you meant so we can do this

>>8756661
I'm guessing she meant a front bustle.

>>8756557
Looks like toy march. Still cute though, I guess.

I have probably about 15 brand main pieces plus blouses, accessories, ect that have been in storage for a couple years and finally decided to stop being lazy and sell them. But man have I been out of the scene for a long time, it seems like everything has gotten so cheap I'm wondering if it's even worth it to sell them. I feel like popular pieces are going for crazy amounts and the market is now so over saturated that everything else is dirt cheap.

Is it even worth it to list smaller individual pieces like bows and accessories anymore? Should I just sell everything in a lot for like $800 or whatever I decide it's worth? Or would it be more worth it to break it up into smaller lots at say - $50-200 each?

>>8756685
Well, what do you have? Maybe post in the price check thread, or have people make you an offer.

>>8756685
sell it all to the anon hellbent on making a lolita booth >>8756112

>>8756691
I suppose I could do that, have people make offers and then whatever doesn't sell I can just throw in a lot for cheap.

I guess I'm just worried I'm going to go through the effort of listing every little thing on lm and getting little return for it.

>>8756697
Probably not worth it to list every single offbrand bow, maybe sell main pieces and blouses, and do lots for accessories?

When do people usually sell their christmas themed dresses?

>>8754236
Fear not anymore anon! It seems some really angry girl sent a very angry letter to BABY's president and they finally put Sana on her place and there is no blacklist no more! Go order all you want from BABY, Sana can't do anything anymore!

>>8756685
I'd definitely say break it up, maybe even post in one of the buying/selling threads with a list to see if any pieces grab people's attention, or in the price checking threads.

>>8756732
I thought Sana had been gone from BtSSB for years, though?

Tocco-san or something like that is the one who has been ban happy for the past couple of years.

>>8756732
Sauce on this?

>>8756747
>>8756772
I was talking about the Tocco-san girl.
Apparently baby has been really worried about the web shop having such a bad name with international customers for some time now and the last drop was a girl sending a really angry letter directly to baby's president, which apparently is a very big deal for japanese.
So they finally decided to put a stop to Tocco-san and her banning freenzy and they banned her from banning people!

>>8756793
but wasn't a case of a ban just a few weeks ago?
That girl that wanted to reserve a print in a cretain color, but this color wasn't available and they wanted to force her to take the pink colorway. As she refused they banned her.

Would these work with gothic or classic?

>>8756557
It's cute but no green colorway?

Anons....how long does an item last on rakuten in general?
An anon linked me to my dream dress on tokyo alice, but I have to wait until next month to buy it. Am I going to miss it yet again? I was so close I could taste it this time, and I never see that colorway.

>>8757007
Unless it costs 50.000+ it won't be there for long

>>8757007
I don't think you can really predict that. A month is a very long time so it's very possible someone will buy it before you do, but things I'd wanted have stayed in stock for quite a while in the past so you can't know for sure. Depends on how sought after the dress is, I guess.

>>8757010
Ah man, it's only 27k yen.
I could get it, but I don't want to drain my account mid-month.
Thanks for letting me know anon, I'll watch it and hope no one buys it.

>>8756793
Yes, I read about that ban >>8756802 was talking about too. How recently did they get rid of Tocco?

I'm really happy if it's true. I've always been a big fan of BtSSB in particular but had to resort to shopping services if I wanted to buy directly from Japan.

How long should I wait for a seller to reply before flagging a sale on LM? I won the bid nearly five days ago and I haven't heard from them, even after sending a polite message with my shipping information. Am I being too impatient? I've never had to wait this long before...

How worth it are IW's happy packs usually? I dont like the idea of random picked items if I end up not liking/selling it and the AATP one is looking mighty fine. I'm also kinda waiting out on AP's reveal...

>>8757012
I have no idea how sought after it is, haha. I've only ever seen it sell on LM twice...but it always sell for around 230ish. So maybe everyone just keeps theirs but it doesn't have high resale value?
Thanks for answering anons, I'm keeping it bookmarked.

>>8757021
You aren't being too impatient, a week is long enough for them to at least send an invoice. Maybe send another message telling them you'll flag if no reply? Check your sent messages and see if they read your last one.

>>8757023
I hope you get it, anon!

Have you ever bought something you knew was probably overpriced? One of my dream dresses is available now at what I'm pretty sure is quite a bit above market value, but it doesn't come up often and I can afford the asking price. I don't want to feel like a chump, but I also really want the dress...

>>8757025
Looks like they haven't read it. It's not something super expensive, just a taobao brand salopette, but it's cute, and I was hoping to have it sooner rather than later. I'll send another message and wait a couple more days, I guess.

>>8757022
Normally I would say they're worth it but lately many of them had quite a few of those Rozen Maiden collab pieces that never seem to sell well, as well as a few frumpy looking cutsew OPs. If you generally like IW's designs and are willing to take the risk of getting something you won't like at all, I'd say you should go for it.
AatP's is more of a set than a lucky pack, but if you like the print and the matching items, and you prefer to know exactly what you're getting when you're buying something, go for AatP.

>>8757037
Try e-mailing them, there should be a link next to their username on the listing you bought. Sometimes LM doesn't send notifications for messages and such, it's happened to me several times.

>>8757034
If you really, really, really want to own it and don't need to starve after paying for it, why not?
You might not get all your money back when reselling, of course, but that's life.

>>8757034
I've never paid more than retail for secondhand brand but I have bought pieces that I knew were a bit overpriced because I wanted them and wasn't sure I'd find them again.
If the dress is grossly overpriced for no particular reason (meaning, it's not a rare or popular piece or print) you might want to think twice about it but otherwise it's entirely up to you. If you want it so much, have the money for it and you're willing to pay whatever the seller is asking for it (whether it's overpriced or not), then just go for it.

>>8757040
i'm surprised- quite a few anons including myself are after the rozen maiden sets. fwiw, i'd drop my pp email right now if anyone was looking to get rid of a shinku or hinaichigo set from a pack.

>>8757034
yes, i've purchased a lot of things above market value (not a big deal, stuff depreciates over time anyways). it all depends on your situation, sometimes i need stuff asap or something like that. on that note though, i don't really support blatant scalping (e.g. people who buy popular new releases and list them for like 1k+ the next day).

Soooo...radioactive donuts is a thing now?

>>8757044
Yeah, I think you're right. I've actually haven't seen it come up in this cut/color since I've been looking, and the dollar is so strong right now that the actual cost to me is something I'm fully willing to pay. I'd feel kind of stupid if I passed and found it later for a "better" price but the exchange rate had tanked. It's also a brand I wear as everyday clothing so I don't really resell it. (And after the really shitty week I've had, I want a treat.)

>>8757080
Go for it!
And if you're up to it, let us know what you are treating yourself with - none of my own dream dresses is available right now, but I enjoy second-hand happiness as well.

>>8757080
aww anon, you should treat yourself! I'm curious about your get as well, but i understand if you want to keep it private. hope your week is turning around!

>tfw just splurged on shoes
yay retail therapy!

>>8756697
I'm interested in seeing what you have. I always like buying small lots so if you plan to lump together similar items, I'd buy.

>>8756685
Geez, I noticed that too; the print of the month goes for close to a grand, therefore everything else must go for pennies because everyone's so broke and salty.

>>8757078
Oh god it's so ugly... AP, why??

new thread >>8757054

>>8755764
Sorry, but if you know you're a sweat machine you shouldn't be trying on $300 dresses. Know your measurements and use lolibrary.

>>8755790
Yeeeaaah I was really counting on that 2nd wave Holy Lantern release.

>>8756323
Febreeze comes in unscented. And I think the Febreeze would just be for the dressing room.

>>8757078
i'll be perfectly honest, i need this in my life

>>8756959
I have a similar pair with a small heel that I wear with classic and gothic. They're low enough to be comfy to wear to meets with a lot of walking.

>>8756705
+1

>>8757078
It's so fucking hideous and I want it so bad!

>>8756959
I don't think so. Pointed toe shoes rarely feel lolita imo, plus they're flats, plus they have a sort of utilitarian sandal-y feel to them with the materials and design. There are plenty of lace-up lolita shoes but these are more like a beach shoe than a classic one.

>>8757014
Like no more than a week ago. The blacklist is gone and also you will be able to use paypal to pay if your address is in Japan, so ordering by tenso will be OK too. Let's all thank this angry girl for sending that angry letter full of blessings.