/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8687761
...that's a fair price for the particular print/cut, anon. If it's in like-new condition, then that price is definitely justified. It's a fairly popular print after all.

Not so much of a WTF but more of a 'social etiquette for sales'. is it ever appropriate to comment on the amount someone has listed an item for, publicly at least?

>>8687780
tbh sometimes I wish this would happen, but not in cases like this where there's high demand for a piece. I just hate seeing newbies get scalped on something like a lucky pack item or similar things.

>>8687761
I don't understand what your issue is with this listing. It's ETC, so it's appropriate to list on LM, and the price is fairly reasonable. What's the problem?

>>8687799
Anon probably thinks that all ETC sells secondhand for $50~$100, topkek

>>8687808
>>8687761
>OP being this new

>>8687808
I didn't know that. I like it and have bought a few pieces very cheap.

Back to the topic, wtf is with sellers stuffing your envelope with random etsy cards? Is it their friends? Surely no one has 20 different etsy shops of their own

>>8687923
Sellers probably swap cards so they can then get promotion when someone buys something from a shop that isn't theirs. Seems like a good idea if it's just a couple of cards.

I don't understand people who post things up for sale with photos of their animals either sitting on the clothes or even wearing them.

There's a girl trying to sell an Anna cosplay that she made herself on the Disney cosplayers group. It wasn't too bad but if you go through the photos not only has her dog been on it but also her cat. She even put part of it on the dog.

Does anyone else find that odd?

>>8688183
I can't remember where I saw it, might have been LSE, but somebody posted a picture of a pair of wristcuffs modeled on her cat's tail. No thanks, I'll pass on the wrist hives.

>>8688183
isnt that for like proof though?
but no on the pet thing..

>>8688183
Hm, it's kinda hard to judge. On one hand, you'd want to present your clothes in a good way and pets are simply not a good way. But on the other hand, it's their choice and they are free to incorporate their beloved pets, since other pet-lovers might find it cute. You are free not to buy it.

>>8688253
>>8688359
These weren't exactly proof photos but more like her making it and the process. I just didn't see the point in including them when you're trying to sell something. They were lying on top of the clothing. I love my pets but I don't let them go on my clothes especially when I go to sell them.

>>8687780
I think it might be more acceptable to haggle with the seller privately if you must do it. OT but to be fair, this set was pretty cheap to begin with tho, and imo it isn't /super/ popular. I think $150 is reasonable.

>>8688416
The description is even better actually

>>8688410
>Favorited by: 7 people

>>8688416
>feedback
>782
That's it. I'm starting a overpriced ita brand

>>8688423
>material: fabric

>>8688444
I first think that was wig hair wtf

>how I overpaid and couldn’t even wear the dam thing since I was clearly sent someone elses item

Daaamn, how did the indie brand not fix this if they sent someone the wrong order?!

Old, used Bodyline doesn't double in value just because it sells out. Hell, AP doesn't even double in value half the time.

>>8688444
Holy shit. My con roomie made a makeshift petti with whatever tutorial she used for this. It's not even a sewn dress. It's just tulle knotted at the top and you can see the holes peeking through underneath.

>>8689131
>30+ inch waist doesn't fit
At that point, I think it's just time to lose some weight.

>>8689131
>Arrived too small
Sooooo someone lied about their measurements...

>>8689147
...aka 76cm, which is a Medium in the US. If you are going to fat shame, try a little harder than that.

>>8689149

Why would someone custom request something smaller than the standard size if their waist isn't that size. That makes no sense.

>>8689176
>in the US

>>8689187
That doesn't change the fact that a seamstress should be making things either to the measurements requested, or their stated size.

>>8689176
The US is known for vanity sizing (in some cases things they say are for waist measurements of 30 inches are are actually a couple inches larger). I'd be mortified if a US size M didn't fit me.

>>8687923
Lolita equivalent of buy my mixtape.

>>8689219
This. Then I have to hear people talk shit like XXS or 00 isn't a size! OMFG. Yes it is. It's what used to be a small or a 2 before companies decided to appeal to whales by making them feel good. "Oh, I only wear a large in X brand." That does't make you any less fat.

>>8689395
I wear a lot of vintage and it shows how insane vainty sizing is. According to that chart my bust is between a small and medium and waist and hips are an xsmall. One of my favorite 50's dresses is labeled at size 16 and is a perfect fit.

>>8688410
>>8688416
>>8688420
>>8688423
>>8688444
>>8688452
these fit better in the regretsy thread. >>8639083
this thread is more for lacemarket weirdness.

>>8689176
tfw xs-s and i'm tall + chubby
With sewing patterns I'm a size 12 though.

>>8688416
>Materials: gypsy love, magic potion
I guess they worked, seeing as she has 782 reviews and 145 people favourited this shit. I'm guessing (and desperately hoping) that they were all 3edgy5u 13-year-olds with gift cards, but still, damn. >>8688420 reads like some goffik fantasy doodled on the back of a school book by a bored teen.

>>8689176
Holy shit that is the most inflated sizing chart. I'm normally a medium but in this one in xs?? This is a terrible example to use if you wanted to argue.

>>8688420
Why Trash & Vaudeville moved in one photo.

>>8689176
I had no idea it was this bad in the US. According to this chart I should be around XXXS. How is that even possible?

>>8690295
how, is your bust under 30in or something????

>>8690367
Not that anon but my bust is at 28 inches

>>8689176
wtf? i live in the US and according to this I'm an xxs and I've never had to go that low before
my bust 30 unbound (i usually wear a binder though), waist is 24, never measured my hips
except i'm tall, like 5'8"

>>8689176
This is not what most places in the US go by. Idk where this chart is from?

>>8690376
Fellow 28 inch bust-chan. My tits aren't even that small; I'm just really fucking narrow.

>>8688426
Actually is children's costumes.

>>8690423
JC Penny's Worthington brand of office clothing. I just grabbed something at random because I know that I'm really small by American standards.

Can we not use brand stock photos to sell knock offs? That's like Milanoo tier level of shady. Literally.

>>8690489
>legal design replica

This drives me fucking crazy. Tea Party is a model of shoes from AP. It's not a cut/style of shoes in general. It's literally AP's specific shoe.

This is like calling a random dress Sugary Carnival JSK. Or Elizabeth OP because it's a lolita JSK/OP.

>that fucking price
This shit is still in stock on IW's site!
Even more unbelievable is that an American bid on it... She could get this set for $50 less, firsthand.

Then again, I always see this seller listing items with ridiculously inflated prices, including stuff she just bought from LM, then turning around and immediately relisting it with a $50 increase.

>>8690489
I really wish she would stop listing more of these over and over and over and over again. At this point, she's just an ebay seller with 200 pieces of stock. That's not what Lacemarket is for...

>>8690638
Did you take into account shipping overseas?

>>8690497
There is nothing wrong here. Calm down.

>>8690742
Yes. I got this release as well, I paid ~$290US to IW after taxes and shipping. And this listing doesn't include shipping from this seller.

I know UK gets charged out the ass in customs but a) unless she's selling to an EU buyer that's way more than anyone would have to pay to buy it direct and b) I'm baffled by this American bidding because, like I said, she could pay $50 less for it straight from IW.

>>8690497
Are you OP or are we having a rash of idiots mad over nothing?

does anyone else think it's weird for someone to ask for $5 less on something you're already selling for less than $50? It just seems exceedingly cheap to me for some reason, like the old ladies who offer a dime for stuff priced a quarter at a yard sale.

A girl in my local comm just posted this. I'm extremely new and haven't attended a meetup yet so I don't feel comfortable calling her out. Plus I'm worried someone will defend her

>>8692066
This is absolutely not lolita in any way whatsoever. If you call her out, try saying something like 'I didn't think leggings were seen as lolita' instead of 'you ita bitch' so people won't lose their shit at you. But if this is what she tends to wear, please call her the latter at some point.

>$20 for a jacked up scrap of ribbon
>doesn't even have the charm

Man, just throw it away.

>>8692066
>>8692096
To be fair, you can absolutely wear leggings in lolita, so long as you wear boots higher than where the legging ends. I've done it for cute leggings that were advertised as tights online. If you're new, I wouldn't say anything; you'll make a poor first impression and risk looking like an elitist/drama monger.

>>8692298
>Rocking Horse & Charm Clip
> Does not have charm

>>8687808
I managed to snag an older ETC piece for like $65 and I did cartwheels. None of this shit is cheap.

>>8692409
uhhhh...you can get older ETC pieces for $20 (or sometimes even less). Some of it is cheap, and justifiably so if the skirt is too small to fit a petti and/or if the cut is wrong for any discernible Jfash.

>>8690428
Yeah, your bust is actually crazy tiny. I've never seen a bra band below 26", so unless you're a true 1-2" difference A/B cup where do you even buy bras? I've never seen an adult size chart that goes below a 30" bust and a lot don't go below 31 or 32. My bust is a few inches bigger than yours and a lot of Japanese one-size clothes are too big.

>>8691984
Idk, it depends on what it is, if it's a used blouse that isn't unreasonable are all

>>8692298
Idk I'd pay $0.50 for it plus a dollar for the shipping

"80% New"

>>8692414
What the fuck are you smoking if you think that's not a super rare occurrence. Also...I don't even think a lot of ETC is even meant for a petti. It's also a Japanese brand. It IS JFashion.

>>8691984
there are some situations where the person has slightly less in their paypal than you're asking and they don't want to dip into their bamk account. other times, though, it's just about the person's budget and the hard limit they've set on spending. some people have a very set price in their minds.
I had a similar situation but the person asked for $20 off a $250 OP (after putting in the bid for 250 which was super frustrating). I asked her if she would take a $10 discount because I bought it at a bit below market value and though I might pay it forward.
>mfw this bitch asked for an extra dollar off
so yes, anon, some people are just genuinely cheap and are willing to haggle for a few fucking dollars.

>>8692471
Sorry anon but ETC for cheap is not rare at all. Just browsing Rakuten I found several secondhand pieces for around $20-30. Maybe just get better places to shop from?

>>8692478
I'm potentially one of these people
>Seller has LM listing up for months with zero bids
>no price reductions
>get enough money to buy it but listing has ended
>PM her about buying it for price + shipping
'Oh anon, I was just about to relist it, just buy it on the new listing'
>New listing is $15 more
>Ask her about price change since she just agreed to the original price when I PM'd her
>'Oh, I was planning to relist it at this price and you agreed to purchase from the listing, soooo...'
>Say I am no longer interested
>she sends me a rant about time wasters

Not sure why but I just couldn't get around her adding on $15, maybe I am just a stingy bitch but it was so off

I wanted to make copper flowers and see how well they sell on Etsy but I'm worried that I won't price it very well.

>>8692492
You mean the non-print Almost-Axes-Femme-But-With-Less-Shape pieces? Sure, of course, but honestly, I don't think those are the ones people are looking at when they're talking ETC prices.

>>8692512
The size should determine the price for crafts. I hate when people charge a lot for labor, it's one thing if you used a lot of nice material but totally another to charge for 5 hours of hotgluing like you're a surgeon or something.

>>8692519
This. Print ETC costs almost retail in CC.

>>8692500
Man, fuck her. She was just trying to get a few extra dollars.

>>8692500
Would have told her to eat that $15, if someone showing interest made her hike up the price it probably hasn't been selling for a reason.

>>8690428
>>8692431

For real though I was thinking the exact same thing. Where the fuck do you buy your bras? Like genuinely.

Do you just wear sports bras?

>>8692519
Original anon just said "none of this shit is cheap" not "none of this cute iconic print otome shit is cheap" - obviously if a print is super popular it's going to go for retail, but you can still get piles and piles of ETC for considerably less than. Pic related is up for like $30 right now, there's another cute print dress that's a little over $50.

>>8692534
people can charge for labor if the labor the good quality. like you said, charging for hot gluing something is bad, but for doing something like working rivets into leather (assuming its done well) it makes sense

>>8692302
exactly. my first meetup is tomorrow and i don't want to have awkward tension when i arrive because she's attending too. it's so much harder to call people out when you're not anonymous
maybe isucky is right. we are cowards hiding behind anonymity

>>8690748
I was tempted to message the seller and ask how much in pounds it would be to see if she would compromise and sell to a UK seller. That was before the person who bid on it since I don't think she would be willing to sell to me for cheaper in pounds now someone was stupid to bid on it for that amount.

>>8692066
I joined that comm recently but haven't posted or attended any meetups because I am planning on moving nearby, but not sure when yet. Also not about to call it out. But know that you do not stand alone in your side-eye anon, we can be friends one day.

>>8692066
>Footless tights
They mean leggings?

>>8692834
Different materials and thickness

>>8692841
Thank you, anon with material knowledge. I still don't see the point of these.

>>8692298
>NWOT
>charm is missing
I'm curious to hear her definition of "new".

>>8692414
I hardly ever see JSKs or OPs for below 5k yen. You can get Skirts for 3-4k regularly, but anything below is just really lucky. You don't know what you're talking about.

>>8692500
Nah anon, she was clearly trying to get a few extra dollars on shit that didn't even sell.

>>8692880
>You don't know what you're talking about.
Lmao so I'm just imagining the 55 ETC OPs/JSKs currently for sale on closetchild that are less than 5k. Okay anon. Whatever floats your boat.

>>8692834
she listed them as footless tights but really they're leggings because I know what local shop she got them from

it may not be 100% relevant but this discussion of 2nd hand etc sales reminded me i had this saved

>>8692903
holy shit i remember this thread
thanks for reminding me anon

And from the same comm upthread where a girl is trying to sell a pair of skull print leggings, this. Now the price is fine but this should be on LSE, not clogging up our local comm page. I think the only kind of sales done on comm pages should be from people who are actually in the comm

>>8692302
>leggings that were advertised as tights online
bane of my existence

>>8690489
>legal design replica
>as if design replicas were illegal in the first place

>>8689176
>...aka 76cm, which is a Medium in the US. If you are going to fat shame, try a little harder than that.
No, no, 30 inch+ waist is still fat, even if it is a medium in the US (which, if you didn't know, is one of the fattest countries). JCP just likes catering to delusional cows who think they're ~*~ healthy~*~.

>>8692941
It depends on how tall you are and some people don't have defined waists. Even at 100 pounds (I'm 5'4) my waist was barely 25", maybe 25.5".

I'm 140 now with a 29" waist, need to get down to 120 and it will be about 27".

>>8692965
Oh, and while I went up a size from an AU 8-10 (US 4-6), 8 is still way too big on me and even 6 is too big in jackets. Proportions and fat storage and all. But I look fat because of my calves.

Sorry, I know no one cares about my stats, just trying to put into context.

>>8692941
This. I used to buy work clothes there and even out of shape, normally a medium, I could wear XS in Worthington. It fit perfectly when I was fatter

>>8692941
>even if it is a medium in the US (which, if you didn't know, is one of the fattest countries)
Stop pretending like being fat is in any way new to us. That charts been talked about to death, scroll the fuck up and actually read the thread. Like, it's awesome that you feel like less of a sow in comparison, but really. Scroll up.

>>8693032
Additionally: get better at knowing when something's bait. I can't believe I left that out.

>>8693032
>>8693034
>stop talking about it because I don't like it

Not really wtf but
>sell shoes for $15 shipped
>assumed shipping would be like $5
>comes out to 10.99
>made $4.01 off of shoes

>>8693069
Why would you ever sell something shipped without calculating first?

>>8692629
I'll concede to that. It just rubbed me wrong to see shock at what's either at or slightly less than retail for a fairly coveted piece upthread. But it IS rare to find one of ETC's cute prints for cheap. The dresses you found aren't impossible to come across, but they take digging. I wouldn't say quite as much as AP and Baby, but goddamn, have I trudged and trudged through clothing looking for some of their cutsew dresses, and they're about average in popularity depending on the print.

>>8693065

>>8693083
Not that poster, but usps shipping on shoes from where I live (Kentucky) to Tennessee, Florida, Ohio, and Michigan has almost always been 5.95 or 6-something. I can't believe how much shipping to California costs but didn't know til I did it once

kind of wtf sales but it was something i did
>buy accessory off of someone on /cgl/
>pay the invoice
>like a week goes by, get caught up in college stuff
>"huh i wonder when the package will arrive"
>checking my email for unrelated stuff for the first time in like a week
>the seller has been trying to contact me for days to confirm my shipping address
if you're reading this, i'm sorry

>>8692941
It's always weird when these discussions come up lmao. I'm slender and a size medium, but then I remember not every girl is 6'0.

>>8692941
>US (which, if you didn't know, is one of the fattest countries)

The US is barely in the top 10 at place #9. JSYK.

is dollskill really selling these terrible replicas and straight from taobao items?

>>8694529
Yo, isn't that chibi moon jumper featuring art from a tumblr artist? Do they have permission to use that?

>>8694529
>Tfw you almost bought the bunny bag on your last order

Thank fuck I decided to skip on that.

>>8694529
What about that decoration dream pony bag replica that had a description like "made of soft veggie leather"
This website is like a glorified storenvy reseller.

>>8694529
Dollskill is gonna be way to edgy desu to give a shit about copyright infringement.

>>8694529
I mean, they are collaborating with limecrime and sell their merch so i'm not really that surprised...

>>8692500
> 'plans to relist it at higher price'
Who the fuck would do this after their item didn't sell

Does this count?

>>8699565
>I dunno my exact measurements
Confirmed for lazy as fuck

>>8699624
On top of the gem that is "I'm not looking to buy right now" but still expect people to waste their time and post their for sale cosplays anyway.

>please spend $100 on a costume I displayed on a bare mattress and some dirty blankets plus only inches from a bowl of food

In some of the pictures it's hard to tell what is costume and what's unwashed blankets.

Two girls on the off brand sales are complaining on how a salo is short and how is doge salo is not lolita related.

>>8699837
>being that new and stupid

On another note, I saw the same person selling that in another group and I would have bought it if I weren't too tall and it weren't $100.

>>8699565
Wtffffffff wow. Yep this is the thread for that

I feel like this could be a bingo sheet or a quick way to drink yourself into a coma.

Things I've seen on other peoples sales post or gotten on my own recently that are just so why the fuck would you do this?:

>Do you take trades for this (max 98cm bust blouse)? Here's my album (full of nothing but plus size things starting at 110cm)!

>I don't get paid until the end of the month (three weeks from now) can you hold this $20 item for me until then?

>Your measurements are listed in centimeter, can you tell me what they are in inches?

>I wish I could buy this (Moi meme Moitie JSK) but $200 is too expensive for me because I'm a college student.

>Your shipping says USA only, does that include Canada too?

>I want to buy this but I'll have to ask my mother first because I don't have my own paypal.

>You don't sell to people who don't have their own paypal? My mom totally said it was okay, I can give you her Facebook or phone number and you can talk to her and she'll tell you! (Not making this shit up, it really happened)

This person is practically a treasure trove of wtf sales. They have never once paid for anything, they're just endlessly in a state of wasting everyone's time for 10+ minutes with questions without knowing how the reply function works and then finally going straight to "Do you want to trade?"

Why 2000 starting? Only been around for a few years so am I missing something? It's just an apron?

>>8700589
>$30,000 BIN
I'm missing something too

>>8699837
>stupid people
I saw one for sale but it's a M/L and I'm sure it's too big for me

>>8694529
>>8695060
Laughing my ass off, I guess we should have seen it coming. They've been toeing a pretty cringey edgelord line for the last few years and now it just looks like they're grasping for anything vaguely popular on the internet now that it's not working.

The LimeCrime thing is so sad, too. LimeCrime is being buried under makeup brands with better pigmentation and lasting power that have more colors. That would have been a smart move, what? 6? More? years ago.

>>8700589
It says "sold" in the description, so clearly she's already arranged a sale and has that listing up so she can get feedback from the buyer

>>8700588
Oh yeah.. I saw this yesterday.. It made me extremely sad to see.

This is less of a WTF sales and more of a "WTF why would you buy a bob wig for $300 in the first place unless that shit is 100% human hair?!"

>>8700888
>$300
>worn four times for maybe an hour at the time

If it were $300 for a wig I'd be wearing it every damn day just to get my moneys worth.

Semi on topic, does anyone know what the deal is with Circus Doll? Are they just scalping Lucaille wigs at a 200% markup with 9 week shipping, or are they really an "authorized USA" seller as they've claimed? If they're really authorized I don't get why they would have to ship directly from Asia.

>>8700914
>9 week shipping
Sounds like they're resellers. I honestly don't understand how the "You pay me now and you'll get your order in 2-3 weeks" resellers manage to get any customers because there's no way you can 100% say the item you're sending is good quality.

>>8700914
They're resellers. Lucaille ships worldwide when you order from their official website (aka not Taobao), so they have no need for an "authorized USA" seller, especially if it's more expensive and more costly. It would ruin their image.

>>8700888
>$300
wtf? you can get human hair wigs with monofilament parts for that much
no synthetic wig should cost that much, at that price you might as well switch to human hair as it's much more versatile

>emergency feeler

>>8701470
What does that even mean..

>>8701470
>500$

>>8700914
Has anyone on here bought from that cosplayer that collabs with them to make commissions? Her stuff looks decent but her being associated with them seems sketchy to me.

>>8700888
holy shit even cancer patient wigs are cheaper than this. girl got played.

>>8692581
Not those anon but I'm roughly a 30A and I buy most of my bras from the little bra company.

>>8692066
>selling something for $4

>>8701647
well she posted it on the comm page, so she probably wanted to exchange the item locally for cash

Anyone who tries to sell lens they're worn, especially when they post photos wearing the lens "to show what they look like" or say they've "been sanitized".

>seller on fb selling an over skirt
>comment asking how long it is since lolibrary/official site doesn't have measurements
>they say they'll get back to me
>they never do
>got notification on post today
>assume its them replying to my question
>nope, just bumping the sales post
How do you expect to sell your shit when you can't communicate with a possible buyer?

>>8701700
I'd say something. Just casually ask them if they ever got those measurements on their bump post.

>>8690295
vanity sizing

>>8701700
I sometimes forget to answer measurement-type questions because on my experience, it's always asked by fatties that can't fit anything. And after you waste time measuring for them thinking they will buy, they always answer "oops, It won't fit my 200 cm waist, good luck with your sale!". Of course it won't fit!! Why waste anyone's time?
Sorry, nothing to do with your post, just venting.

>>8688444
I thought this looked OK until I clicked on the thumb and saw the full picture

LOL nope

>>8694529
What the fuck is up with that Carlton top? Why did they split his face into three?

>>8700569
$200 is too expensive for me because I'm a college student

And that's the seller's problem why exactly?

>>8700888
It's a fashion wig, some of the more quality fashion wigs can be that price for synthetic and high quality human hair wigs can hit $2000

>>8701849
I think one is a jacket and the other is the sweater underneath. Took me a few minutes of staring to figure it out.

>>8701861
Speaking of Carlton, at a con in Ireland this summer one room requested a framed photo of Carlton in their room and the hotel delivered

>>8701864
Beautiful.

>>8692431
>>8692581
My friend has a 24" underbust (she's very very petite) and she special orders through Nordstrom. You have to get the lingerie specialist to order it and come back in for a fitting when it arrives, but its a good option if you've never found one small enough before since you don't have to pay until after trying it on. My friend is also a G cup so she's kind of double-fucked size wise.

Adding onto the craziness in sizes, I'm a 46/30/48 and 6'. I have maybe 4 pairs of proper pants that have been tailored and everything else is skirts. Its a really good thing I like classic with all its corset lacing and being able to use vintage victorian-revival blouses.

>>8700888
Adding on to >>8701859
The brands listed are real wigs for people who want hair that doesn't look like a wig. Old ladies buy them. Those kind of wigs have a front cap made of some kind of rubber (on the inside, not just a skin top) and are very thickly wefted.

>not defending the seller, I just shop at a lot of estate sales and some ladies will have had 3 or 4 of these $300 wigs.

>>8687761
This girl's sales.

>dat price
Also, am I the only one who thought the boob job part was tmi?

Same seller, again
>dat price
I clicked on the ebay listing to see if it was just a placeholder or something

http://www.ebay.com/itm/H-Naoto-Jelly-Coat-Jacket-Dress-Goth-Visual-Kei-Lolita-Cyber-/201462213906?hash=item2ee8156d12%3Ag%3AL7kAAOSwI-BWO91T

It isn't

>>8703147
>that price
>slight signs of wear

Holy shit people are deluded

>>8703142
>>8703147
Lol, I saw who's selling it. It's some cybergoth raver girl who used to post overpriced ugly top hats on the comm sales like 7 years ago. I think her profile picture is the same as her old LJ one. She hasn't changed at all apparently.

/cgl/ isn't letting me directly reply because the page is stretched out and the captcha keeps moving away from it, ugh.

>>8703278
Dropped my picture. Does anyone else remember her and her ugly $200 mini top hats and hair falls?

Still not letting me post properly...

Is this happening to anyone else? When I scroll to the right, the page keeps stretching and it never reaches the rest of the captcha. Can only post from the top/bottom of the thread.

>>8703280
it super annoying but I just dragged the quick reply box closer to the middle of the screen

>>8703279
yea thats lady saw i think

>>8703327
Dur, why didn't I think of that.

>>8703506
Lady_solo you mean? Sad I actually remembered, what a useless piece of information as she was never particularly inspiring, just a tacky scalper

>>8703280
It's happening on mobile too

>>8703513
yea that one, i couldn't remember if it was saw,solo, sloth etc.

>>8703506
Fucking love Rich Girl

One of these is not like the others

>>8701544
I stay away from any cosplayer who promotes them. They keep trying to pass themselves off as a legit company by giving people coupon codes to promo their site as "sponsors". They can afford it because the base price and shipping markup is so high - even with 10% off they're still turning a profit just by clicking the order button on Lucaille's website.

>>8703817
Thank you for the kek, anon

63$ for a plain bodyline dress? Wtf?!?

>>8703893
>gyaru
when will people understand lolita and gyaru are very, very, different fashions (yes even hime)?
and gyaru is arguable even more brand conscious than lolita

>>8703895
You can be gyaru without a single piece of burando lmao

Anyway, they claim to be a shop dedicated to gyaru. So why selling an overprized bodyline op??

>>8701470
That mysterious emergency where you need money right now but only if it's above a certain threshold.

Also this seller here.

can someone please explain the point of putting "FINAL REDUCED!!!" on your sales posts? Like do they think people will suddenly feel a sense of urgency to buy or something?

>>8704665
So you don`t get people messaging you, trying to haggle?

>>8704665
It's just as useless as putting "RARE" in a title. This shit isn't ebay, don't list your stuff like this.

>>8704668
Hmm, I never considered that. But why not just put "not accepting offers" in the description?

>>8704670
people dont always read it

>>8704781
But that has nothing to do with lolita...?

>>8704784
yeah so why the fuck is it on lacemarket

slightly related but I constantly see people making vague WTBs for 60cm BJDs with a budget of like 100$

>>8704789
Report the listing, anon. Do us all a favor.

>>8689176
I'm clinically overweight and I fit an American size 2.
So glad my country doesn't have this bullshit vanity sizing that lets you validate unhealthy behaviours because muh "size medium".

>>8704789
>$100
that isn't even enough for a recast. though tbf i got two of my vinyl 60cms for $150 secondhand.

>>8703817
God I hate that girl so much,

and why is UK sales so crappy right now? It's all bodyline or crap that isn't lolita or those same 4-5 brand pieces getting bumbed

>>8704805
Shut up fatass.

the sale isnt wtf but why would you waste someone's time by commenting that? its beyond me

>>8705996
Smells like tween on allowance money.

>>8705170
I don't know, but honestly when UK sales opened I could buy good stuff at a good price, and now everything is scalped to hell if it doesn't sell within the minute.

The community has gotten so big that everyone is buying, but so few are selling anything at low prices. I feel like when ever newbie girls do manage to swoop in on the cheap items, they never wear them in a coord, and never come back to sell them again.

>>8704665
i put reduced in my sales posts when i lower my prices, hoping maybe someone will feel like they're getting a deal or something.

>>8699737
the fucking bowl of beans

>>8701681
>selling worn lenses

Who buys these? Do they just cross their fingers and hope they don't get infections?

>>8704805
You must be a miget then or have ginormous legs

>>8699737
I honestly thought she was selling a filthy kigu with a very strange detachable hood until I read the description, jfc. Absolutely nothing in this is remotely helpful, too, she can't even give measurements.
>>8700569
The 'Talk to parent, it's fine!!!!1' gets to me like nothing else. If it's fine, why not get the parent to pay without all the hassle in the first place? Just... damn, it's annoying and awkward and 90% of the time it's the kid trying to pretend to be their parent, hoping to hide their £200 purchase from the people who actually have the account. You know, because it's cheap enough to be missed. >>8700588 at least has her family to help her on her impossible quest.

>>8703817
Are the FREE dresses already sold or is she just delusional?

>buy JSK off lace market
>it comes, open up package, the dress is covered in hair
>ribbon corset lacing is missing and the shirring is stretched out
>smells weird

Sigh. Not a big deal, but none of these things were mentioned in the listing.

>>8706946
jesus, that's bad.

>>8706946
Anon, I know you might be conflict-avoidant but you really need to ask either for a partial refund (very small is fine) or leave negative feedback for this.
If you message the seller about how you weren't happy but don't want a refund or to leave negative feedback, they will never learn. But people DO learn if they had consequences to their actions such as a refund or bad feedback.
The corset lacing thing is enough if you're too embarrassed to say about the shirring.
They will only do this again to another buyer if you don't take a stand.

I know this isn't very wtf but this is important. Well, it's kind of wtf considering people haven't learned common sense when buying online...

>Bitch in pic related has scammed people out of $180 and at least four costumes
>Has an account named Wong Chen she used as a front, would post gorgeous costumes with stolen cosplay pictures to lure people in
>Last night, all of this came to light and there have been at least four people who sent her money and costumes
>The one girl used Western Union to send money because Yuuki/Wong said Paypal wouldn't convert to Indonesian currency
>Apparently more people keep coming forward

I just don't understand how people are so trusting and send strangers money and items without having a backup system. It seems like this bitch has shut down her cosplay page (good) but she could make more accounts. NEVER purchase something from someone overseas unless you reverse image search their facebook pictures first.

>>8701855
cause they're hoping the seller will be like "oh ok i'll just take whatever you can give me" cause , ya know, pity the poor student in the luxury fashion.

>>8706946
It is a big deal if you paid appropriate prices for better quality than what was described. This is my pet peeve, I'm not buying 50$ dresses yet people send me shit in that condition without marking it as such. I'm not a newfag, I know what things should cost

>>8707076
This is why I don't buy from international sellers unless it's eBay or through a shopping service.

I thought Wong Chen's display picture looked familiar and thought "No way that cosplayer is from Indonesia."

>>8706020
Problem is is that most people in the group are weebs and people who just nab up any cheap crap regardless. I know that unfortunately my first purchase was a hella ugly dress from an efamous Lolita on there because I thought "crap, that's cheap!"... now it's just hidden away

>>8703142
well idk i mean if you see something in good condition that you want to buy secondhand, you should definitely always ask why they are selling it. they could be selling it because something is wrong with it, and they don't want to tell.
my guess is she knew people were gonna ask, so she just threw that up there as an explanation for why she's selling something in good condition.

>>8707321
There's a lot of nabbing cheap stuff on there, I think, since Parcelforce are absolute w*nkers. It works out a lot cheaper to buy your brand locally, and not pay customs.

I wear lolita almost every day, so it's excellent for me to nab cheap brand to further pad out my wardrobe. I don't mind that things go quickly, but I am sick of people putting up fugly wigs, or Bodyline that's hella marked up. We know what the retail was when you bought it, and we know something similar will come up for half the price within two weeks. Stop bumping your overpriced shit.

This just got uploaded to the worldwide lolita sales. I'd like to point out that the blouse isn't a blouse and the buttons are just decorative.

>>8707606
I saw this. And immediately face-palmed. Her comments defending it are just barely legible. I would blame ESL, but she lives in Texas, so I'll blame redneck illiteracy instead.

>>8707606
Oh... weird. That's a Touhou cosplay. I wonder if the seller even realizes this?

>>8707616
Her profile photos are all Touhou art. She's aware.

This goes for what, $20 on Ebay?

>>8707606
>scrolling down FB dash
>literally just spotted this

>>8707690
>>8707606
I don't know what's more cringeworthy, the girl trying to sell this costume as lolita, or the girl posting her shitty cosplays in the thread as examples where "thin and cheap" fabric works fine for costumes.

>>8707606
Seriously no one said it was Bodyline and then it derails into "Well this cosplay's fabric isn't so bad, I'm a cosplayer I would know!" while some how talking about affordable lolita?

>>8707698
Dropped my pic.

>>8707606
It looks like a Touhou cosplay.

>>8707708
Because it is.

>>8707682
is this in lolita sales? ew

>>8707606

>>8707736
Thankfully it wasn't. Just very overpriced in the cosplay sales.

$25 for Secret Shop Miracle Candy replica socks? Seriously? You could buy the originals for less than that and these ones retailed at $7 at most.

>>8707912
Aaand she's trying to sell two pairs of Milky Chan socks for the same price and charges Paypal fees. What a tacky douche.

>>8706941
It refers to the free shipping. Not the seller's fault, Facebook just has weird algorithms.

>>8707299
Their picture is stolen from another cosplayer according to someone in the comments. Here, I'll post the original post by a mod.

>>8707962
2/2

- tries to sell ap replica for more than 40$ the original price
- gets called out and then claims harassment

>>8707076
I'm sweating right now, I have been using PayPal for a few months and don't really understand all their options. It's such a hard interface to use to find things. Took me forever to get my account verified since I don't do online banking. A seller recently asked me to pay as a gift so she wouldn't have to pay fees, should I report her to the mods on LM? I thought that was weird

>>8707992
Is that.. mold?

>>8708108
Looks like a toner stain to me, actually. But could be.

>>8708108
Sure looks like it. Mold permanently damages most fabric too. It already looks threadbare as it is in the non-moldy areas too.

>>8700588

This bugs me. Maybe I grew up someplace strange but that parent shouldn't be begging for the daughter. The daughter should be doing something to make money, or get it for a gift on her birthday/Christmas/whatever.

Why do they feel like because they're poor, they're entitled to a free costume - a costume that looks REALLY complicated, too? Know what I did when I was too poor to afford costumes? I didn't do costumes, I did crappy closet cosplays, etc. I think a LOT of people in the cosplay scene did, too. It's a sad story, I guess, but there are plenty of people who are in that situation.

Yeah entitlement.

>>8707992
Caps of the calling out and defensive "They're bullying me!!" comments?

>>8708099
Yeah

>>8708472

they ended up lowering the price afterward to 50$

>>8700888
What FB group is that in? I'm interested in the one for $50

>>8708616
>three years
she's had this dress for 3 years, and she's trying to sell it for that much?

>>8708099
Definitely report. ALWAYS ask for an invoice or pay through goods and services.

>>8708734
She's also trying to sell a bodyline skirt for 50$

I basically spat out my orange juice.

>>8708734
Ooh and these too. Like, I get that she's a complete noob, but trying to sell destroyed shoes for nearly the purchase price of the new ones is so stupid.

>>8708616
>come off anon and say it to my face

Kek

>>8708785
yeah i'll be totally honest here and let you know i have literally no knowledge on lolita brands at all.

>>8708786
i would be hesitant to buy those for 5$ at a thrift store if i was an expert on repurposing shoes. jfc i almost feel sorry for this person.

>>8708786
Ugh someone in my comm was trying to sell similarly damaged shoes for $35. Bodyline wannabe scalpers need to be called out

>>8707682
>95cm waist

>>8709103
Trueee. Unfortunately as soon as she was called out for scalping, she became highly defensive.

She also ended up removing a lot of her sales posts/lowering the prices, which pretty clearly shows that she knows she f'd up.

The images weren't loading but they're irrelevant anyway.
Did the meaning of NWOT change over the years or do people not realize the New Without Tags literally means NEW without tags?

This was on my comm page.
We don't even do clothing sales.

>>8709215
Like those people that say something like 'excellent condition still have tags!' then 'worn x times!', as if just having the tags upgrades the newness or something(?). Worn is worn, people...

>>8709234
I'm really confused by "it can fit a cup of liquid"

Like, the whole set can fit one cup? Altogether?

>>8709215
I thought NWOT stood for "never worn or tried on".

>>8709288
It means "new without tags".

>>8707752
I put "touhou cosplay lolita" into eBay and did get a hit for that dress, so it's possible she bought it and honestly believed it was lolita? Awkward, though.

>>8709234
>>8709287
I'm really really hoping they mean the actual cups can each hold a full cup of liquid, because otherwise that's very tiny. Even most single-serve teapots hold more than one cup. I wonder if its actually a child's tea set, given the price?

>>8708616
>come off anon so I can reply privately and save face

>>8709234
My tea set can hold at least three cups, this is kinda weird. If it includes six cups I would think it would be able to hold 36-48 ounces.

Listed item on LM that I wanted to sell quickly.
Put in description "Only US shipping currently, no international. Sorry for the inconvenience!"
Buyer messages me and says "Please sell me this, I really, really want it, but I live in Europe!"
Tell buyer that international shipping is very expensive, but I'll check the cost of it and get back to her within a few days.
Get 5-6 more messages from buyer before I even get to go to the post office.
Impatient seller then just hits the buy it now button, because "I'm sorry, someone else bid on it and I really didn't want to miss this!"

Package item up, tell her the estimated shipping cost.
"Oh, that's really expensive, someone else sent me something from the US for much less than that."
Slightly annoyed, but seller pays and I ship the item, she says she's received it.

I'm glad it's over with now...but I was pretty annoyed the whole time....

>>8709663
That's a Grade A obnoxious buyer. Glad you got it over with without any postal hassles though.

>>8708616
>The two stains are from age

No, they're not. I don't know what those stains are, but you don't get two spots like that from "age". They looks like cigarette burns to me.

I had a buyer purchase something from me once on LM while I was at work. Literally happened early in my shift. Usually I can get away a bit to check my phone or do whatever. But this day was pretty busy and I had to get a lot done. 30 minutes after she'd won the auction, I get a message. I figure it's just the obligatory, "Hi, I won your listing, here's my info thank you." but I couldn't check the actual message because poor internet and too busy. Another half hour passes and my phone goes off again. It's another message from lacemarket. Finally when i go on my break, I'm able to check. Damn girl was asking why I haven't invoiced her yet. I explained I was at work and now I'm on break. I send an invoice, pays instantly. An hour passes another message or two. I check them on my lunch. She wants to know what her tracking is. She messages me again later in the day and wondering if I've shipped it. I couldn't even get to the post office that day because I worked till 5. Do these people not know what jobs are? jfc.

>>8708616
>replicas were never loved by the majority of the community, the times have not "changed"
>three years is a really short life span for a lolita item
>when items age it's normally fading, not giant mold stains

What a freak and she has a terrible attitude too. She reminds me of that gross person who did a shitty Mana costume for Halloween's replies to secrets made about her last week

>>8689176
Holy shit, according to this chart I'm an XS when I'm usually an M. Where did you get this from, anon? It's really fucking scary.

>>8709719
Fuck that noise. Even franchises can take more than a day to ship.

>>8704781
she's also selling a cheap ap powder rose op.... hmmm

>>8708099
Personally I'd mail her and say no, it's against LM's ToS, and see if she surrenders. If she pushes for it or tries to ask you to pay the PP fees after that then contact the mods.
Sometimes people are just cheeky if you seem causal enough for it not be a problem.

>>8709234
>What included

The fuck, America?

>>8687780
TIL I can sell my Wonder Bunny II set for $250 AUD, score.

Saging because i'm replying to an old ass post and i'm OT.

>>8708153
It's easy to break costumes down when you don't know shit about making them. Armour's just padding painted silver, right? And anyone can make a Miku outfit, it's just a long cardi and a shirt and skirt! See, easy!
That's why we have the bad cosplay threads.
And no, I agree that the parent shouldn't be the one going round asking. It's really weird to me too, especially when her daughter is old enough for a fb of her own. If she wants her parents to ask in case people are hesitant to sell to a child that's fair enough, but they should make that more obvious. It sounds pretty creepy like this. I also get the impression that, if some poor sucker DID make the costume, the stuff they'd get in return would be wrinkled, unwashed, and super shitty quality.

>>8709719
Could be worse, she could have harassed you all day and then taken ages to pay.

>>8703817
I am SO GLAD other people noticed this like wtf. Why would you use such an unattractive picture when you're trying to sell something?

>why would you make such an unattractive picture public anyway desu

>http://www.lacemarket.us/innocent-maiden-beige-blouse/
>"Innocent Maiden"
I'd say it's a mistake but it's on two of her listings And then she even abbreviates it IW in her post...?
When I see shit like this I wonder if the seller even owns the item they're listing, if they can't even get the brand name right.

>>8710200
Don't even try to blame this on us, that's not an American English thing. In fact the only time I've seen that usage even jokingly used is with stereotypical poor British English.

>>8709719
if she didn't pay for next day shipping, note that to her.
also note that "next day" shipping doesn't mean "today".

Thought you guys might like to see this high quality replica I found on ebay.

>>8710911
Slight OT, but I didn't know there were eBay payment plans.

>>8709663
Do different states in the us have different shipping rates i live in europe and have paid $20 shipping for a dress then other times been quoted $60 and thats for normal weight dresses not like velvet or anything and without tracking.

>>8711231
States have different prices depending on distance from destination. Shipping to CA from where i live is about 7 or 8 minimum, while Chicago or PA are about 5.95. And FedEx/ other shipping companies are about 2 or 3 times what USPS costs in my experience

>>8711231
I'm going to be honest, it often feels like USPS charges whatever the hell they feel like at the moment for international shipping.

http://www.lacemarket.us/ap-horror-garden-gilet-wine-nwt/
ummm....

So I tried to sell a dress because my parents basically abandoned my brother and I, and I needed money for food... This girl commented on a sales post two months ago asking if the dress would fit a size 12. I gave her a clear and concise explanation of vanity sizing and how to measure herself, including what to do if she didn't have a measuring tape. She then messaged me a month later asking if the dress was still available and I asked if she'd measured herself yet. Over two days she continued asking if it would fit a size 12 after I told her I wear anything between a size 6 and 14 depending on the store/garment, then sent pictures of herself so I coukd try and guage the fit. Even though I was desperate for cash I accepted her being unable to pay until the end of the month. Three weeks later she was ignoring my messages, then after a week told me her debit card had been stolen and her account cleared out. As a victim of theft/fraud myself I felt awful for her, and still feel awful not knowing whether or not I'd prefer if this was the truth. I wouldn't wish that on anyonex

Sorry for the sloppy caps but this is going on in the Fairy Kei and Lolita Sales group on FB right now and it's mildly infuriating how dumb this girl is. She also posted two more comments just now:
>I bought this for $250 tho.. I'm not lowering it anymore. I have college to pay for. Sorry I ain't rich like you all.
>If I can't sell this, I'm just gonna throw it away. Plain and simple.

>>8711231
In a flat rate box, they wanted to charge me $60.
Put it in a regular box, comes out to like $35.
So confused.
It's more affordable without tracking, but most people want tracking.

>>8712117
"If I can't sell this, I'll throw it away!"
And get no money for it? Okay...imo $50-60 is better than zero, lol.

>>8712232
It looks like one of the mods has had enough of her shit and basically told her to lower the price or shut up about nobody buying her overpriced replica.
Somebody also told her that it won't sell for $150 and her response was like "Oh but maybe somebody will see I need to get the money for college and buy it at that price". Bitch that's not going to happen.

>>8712088
Holy crap anon I hope you're in a better situation now, that's horrible.

>>8712117
>>8712252

>>8713057
Thanks... Parents are back in the country (for now) but you can bet I was shocked to come home and realise that they were both absent (and missed my little brother's birthday). Usually just one is out of the country and the other is at church every damn day and won't replace milk on the fridge for three weeks. I can't even drink milk but I'll make sure it is there for my brother. Blew my budget for the next week on new glasses but need them

But seriously, why do so many girls not seems to understand that buying clothes requires you to know how big you actually are and that sizing alone means nothing? I felt bad that she had to buy or borrow a measuring tape so suggested the string + ruler method twice and she wouldn't do that either

>>8713181
Don't feel bad- if you want to buy clothes online you need to know your damn measurements!! She's the one at fault here.

Sounds like things are pretty rough for you, hope they get better.

Uhhhhhh.

This reeks of scammer but the picture didn't turn up when I reversed it

>>8713631
Yeah, they're a scammer. The proof photo for the other item is stolen. From another LM listing.

>>8713634
Damn, if you're gonna be a scammer be a good scammer.

>>8713638
Pretty sure the Country of Sweets/"Sugary Carnival" OP is stolen from an old Mbok auction which is smarter as the pictures from there get deleted after awhile. What an ass.

So I was looking around ebay and found this. I would like to draw your attention to the 100% positive feedback, and the fact that there is one person watching this.

Can you spot what's wrong here?

>>8712229
In a regular box shipping is determined by weight. Flat rate is just what it says, no matter what you put in there the cost is the same. Never use flat rate for light items, but usually a good deal for heavy things. A lot of people quote flat-rate because it's the guaranteed max the buyer will have to pay ("$60 shipping, will refund difference if less".)

>>8712117
This is why print replica sales should be blanket banned, I'd always worry that some poor newbie would fall for shit like this in a less moderated sales group. To be honest, them lying should constitute a ban.

>>8713631
I reported it, but I don't even know if the mods take any notice of reports.

>>8713653
Isn't Angel Pretty some shitty company that was sold in the UK?

>>8713659
Already posted. Twice.

>>8713670
The post is gone from the group now, so I'm assuming she either got banned or got butt-mad about all of the people pointing how that her replica isn't nearly worth $150.

She keeps relisting this and I seriously can't imagine anyone wanting it without the bag, especially at this price. I have this and it's barely even a pamphlet, it's not like it's full of interesting pictures or anything.

>>8687775
>>8687799
What is with people being so ridiculous when it comes to other people's pricing lately? I remember when people were only called out in blatant and extreme cases of overcharging, like if someone were to ask for $700 on a piece that doesn't even sell for retail. These days you get called a scalper or end up in a WTF thread for asking for what an item is worth just because the person complaining is either a complete newfag or butthurt about having to pay an item's typical going rate, even when you're only talking $200 items. I've seen people call scalper on people for their auctions ending up crazy high after massive bidding wars.

>>8712117
I am one of the admins in this post. It has since been deleted since it was becoming an issue. Not sure why throwing it away would be worse than selling for less money but W/E have your hissy fit.

>>8713727
We removed it.

>>8709663
I had someone do this exact thing to me. Like, exactly right down to the hitting buy it now and then arguing that their last order cost less. They weren't European though so I hope it isn't the same person.

>>8714868
Why do people keep trying to sell little things like this, or shopping bags, or whatever? It just seems so odd.

You can buy this genuine jsk for a minimun bif of 100$ plus shipping
"Worn once by model for Fashion Show"
such haute couture

>>8719950
Hahahahahaha this is fucking gold what sales site?

>>8719937
There's someone trying to sell a lot of AATP bags on LM right now, those bags aren't even cute and they're way to big to use as gift bags

>>8719997
here http://www.lacemarket.us/hangry-and-angry-headless-puppet-jsk/

>streched ita dress
>115cm waist and up
>AND UP
>30$ shit taobao dress
>min. bid $70 (plus shipping)
Why live

>>8720043
>these back rolls...

This is more just kind of cute than anything, but I'm imagining some Nightmare Before Christmas shit where she opens the box and gets attacked by the shoes.

>>8720055
>mfw I'm using my brother's computer and forget to crop his stuff out
oh god I'm so sorry
sage

>>8720043
>mfw I know this girl
>mfw I recognized her shape before her face
>mfw she does stupid shit a lot
>mfw she really does think she's a normal size and always tries to model in fashion shows

>>8720055
>they do not like me at all when I received
Not sure if that means they didn't fit or like you said, they just attacked her straight away.

>also dat Henshin tab open

Someone's trying to sell this used sticker page for $5

>>8721195
Dropped my pic gdi

NEW THREAD
>>8721563

>>8719937
>>8720001
Some people buy them as novelties or something like that, apparently. I do save my little shopping bags to reuse but I don't really get collecting them.

>>8711670
what's wrong with this one?

>>8721894
I'm confused but it looks like they took the top part of the JSK off?

>>8689176
>fat shame
>whacked-out inaccurate data

>>>tumblr

>>8721197
Hooly shit.