/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Newbies who don't get that they're newbies, so aren't qualified to say shit to anyone. If you own less than three coords, I respectfully motion that you should go fuck yourself instead of giving other newbies wrong information.

There's also a girl I'm in a comm with who's forever buying brand that's a hell of a long way from fitting her, and then complaining because nothing fits her. The measurements are on the listing, girl, you're not getting any pity from me. You knew they wouldn't fit.

What the hell is with people talking as if they are lolitas when they don't own anything lolita related? I hate that people have some sort of weird thing that the fashion is an identity or something and that they are still a lolita even if they don't dress it or have any clothes or anything. Honestly since when did lolita become a "cool thing" to just say you are.

>>8623608
Usually it's girls that can't afford to have anything lolita and admire it from afar, they think they're 'lolitas at heart!'
They want to be a real lolita but they can't afford to be, so 'lolita at heart' is the next best annoying thing.

I think I may have just one:
>walking against the wind so my petti tucks between my legs
That shit drives me up a wall every time it happens and sometimes my petti will tuck between my legs without wind.
Getting it back to normal always requires awkward shuffling.

>>8623607
Reminds me of that one girl from some months back giving out advice on how to create lolita outfits on a budget, when she was new and badly dressed herself, and was suggesting skater dresses as cheaper lolita dress replacements. Then got a huffy and butthurt when she got told why her advice is bad.

>>8623693
oh that muslim chick on tumblr aye? She was comparing cherry skater skirts to one of AP's cherry pieces

This girl has been coming to my comm's meets on and off for the past two years because she wants to "get into lolita". I know she's won prizes of clothes at meets before but she never comes in lolita.
Like if you're coming to the meets, wear the clothes. It's been seriously long enough.

>>8623705
Yep that's her. I wonder if she's still wearing her terrible outfits, improved, or did she flounce out.

>>8623684
Cure this by wearing a pencil skirt or miniskirt underneath. This is what I do instead of wearing bloomers.

>>8623597
>lolitas who will do anything for attention
>shots of unfinished coordinates for asspatts, constantly bringing up chronic physical/mental illnesses on lolita pages, labelling themselves to get a sense of identity, treating lolita as said identity, etc...
it really rustles my jimmies. jfc make some friends and stop asking the internet for validation

>people who say their comm has no drama
>people who claim their sub-comm has no drama
>people who tell others to 'stop hanging out with the wrong people' when they complain about drama

Give me a group, and I'll give you drama. It's everywhere, please stop being in denial.

>>8623684
>>8623743
This is genius, not that anon, but fuck I'm gonna start doing this

>>8623771
>shut up your comm is full of drama
Not everyone is a pathetic slab of salt like yourself. Everyone, everywhere has minor issues, but no, some comms really are lacking in drama.

>>8623780

Your facebook group of you and your friend doesn't count, sorry.

>>8623815
Naw it's true. My comm in particular is very free of drama but this is probably because my comm is clique-y and no one really talks to anyone but their established friend group.

But anyways;
> wearing socks over tights/ leggings in general agghgjjg

>>8623743
a slip. The name of the garment you are looking for is a slip.

>>8623771
My comm really doesn't have much drama at all. I know of stuff that happens and people that do stir shit online, but they're all talk and look like shit themselves. But compared to the drama I see at other conventions, our comm is a placid lake.

Pet Peeves:
>People asking the same damn questions. "is lacemarket, bodyline, milanope clone, safe to buy from?"
>Plus size girls who stuff themselves into anything and complain that people are bodyshaming when they say they look bad or offer assistance in helping to make them look nicer. Please, I'm big myself but I never look downright terrible even if my coord is a little off.
>I have sensitive skin so I can't wear makeup. You most likely can, but you can't buy cheap shit and you need to test it before settling on a good product. This means effort, money, and learning.
>All the armchair lolitas that exist in anonymous communities like this, judging everyone because I'm sure their collections of collages are an indicator of how perfect they would look if they actually could afford the fashion. Honey, anyone can put together a collage, finding the items and finding out the color matches perfectly or fits as intended is another story entirely.

>>8623608
>>8623608
I get facebook and irl but Ive been curious for a while as to how many gulls who participate in the lolita threads are actually lolitas
Like hell I'm not a lolita but I wanted to be for a while, became familiar with everything with plans to eventually buy a dress but slowly stopped caring about wearing it myself.
I still lurk and occasionally post in the ita, drama, and this thread. I have eyeballs, though. Coordinating an outfit isn't rocket science to everybody lol!

gems stuck on the face. it rarely looks good. mostly it just looks tacky, even in OTT

>>8623840
>my comm is a huge clique
>nobody talks to anyone outside of established groups
>"no drama"
Did you know that people don't have to be in all out altercations to exhibit highly dramatic and snobbish behavior ?

>fan+friends terrible male aristo clothing
>fan+friends terrible fandom themed prints
>fan+friend in general

>idiot newbies who think wigs are required and look down on girls who don't wear them

>>8623780
Whoa anon, you kinda insulted that other anon a bit harshly

lolita's who'll buy the full set of whatever Angelic Pretty's newest must have release is in two colourways but still have the nerve to complain about not getting the colour they really wanted

>>8623597
Honestly the OP bothered me more than the comment.
I hate it when people give a lolita a genuine compliment, but she tries to play the victim instead of just taking it.

Normies don't know any better, and if they're genuinely being nice, why would you throw it back in their face?

It's like yelling at someone for saying "Merry Christmas" when you don't celebrate that holiday

I've had this happen 3 times now.

>nave closet clearout
>Newbie buys cheap item
>messages me constantly after sale is complete.
>gushing about excited they are to be a lolita, sending photos of bodyline items they own
>constant friend requests

I don't know how to politely tell them I don't want to be friends with a total stranger so I usually end up ignoring the messages.

>>8624133
thiiis

>>8625747
My goodness, newfriend, maybe you should wander back to your hugbox if you can't handle the banter of an imageboard.

>>8623840

>my comm is really cliquey
>but there's no drama

You guys sound super fun and welcoming to newbies.

>>8625747

Nah, she's just projecting.

>>8624133
this so much holy shit. Like where the fuck did all these newbies even get this idea?

>>8624133
>>8625939
Newbie here. Does this also apply to short hair, or is the only acceptable natural hair long? I've seen a lot of girls with short hair get posted on cgl and get shit on for not wearing wigs.

>>8625947
Girls who get posted for that kind of hair usually have hair that doesn't go with the coordinate, thus making it look jarring.
Recent example was that girl in the navy Milky Cross OP wit the super shirt silver hair. It just didn't go with the OP at all, or lolita aesthetics in general. Masculine haircuts just don't work with the super girly aesthetics, nor do unnatural hair colors that don't match with the coordinate.

>>8625947
it all depends how nicely your hair is styled. Can't make your hair nice? Use a wig. Have nice natural hair? Use it. All you have to do is look well groomed, this isn't a difficult concept

>>8623883
Thank god I'm not the only one who thinks those gems are tacky as hell. It reminds me of those stick-on earrings that they have for little kids.

>>8623864
I have very sensitive skin and can still wear a full face of makeup, I completely agree that if you just put the time and money in even the most sensitive skin can handle makeup. On the other hand I just spent $90 at sephora for 3 items and spent a good 15-20 mins rubbing various concealers on my forearms.

>>8623886
>Did you know that people don't have to be in all out altercations to exhibit highly dramatic and snobbish behavior ?
Did you know that it's entirely possible to be neutral towards people you don't talk to? Or do you just assume everyone is out to get you just because they don't say "hi"?

>>8625747
Original anon, another anon commented about her community being cliquey. I just keep seeing some anons going on about how every comm has -sekrit drama- and a peaceful comm is like some mythical unicorn. There might be issues between girls or minor problems, but some comms really are good enough where you can't tell or are all around easy-going.

>>8625974
>just said people don't like each other and wouldn't talk to one another in a social situation if they weren't in the same clique
Oh, you mean passive aggressive "neutral." Lol.

My pet peeve is people like >>8623860

>>8625997
...people that provide information? Really?

>>8625947
Hi, I'm >>8625939 and I have short, naturally colored hair and and I tend to wear wigs with more OTT styles and I go with my natural hair with casual stuff. I always make sure I have appropriate headwear, lolita with short hair often forgo headwear which is why they get posted sometimes.

>>8626002
People that chip in with unnecessary, pig headed info to sound superior to others.

>>8625895
Oh friends, how nice.

Insults are chill, just whenever they are deserved.
maybe I didn't read the conversation carefully.

>>8625953
>>8625947
Also the hair should balance out whatever you are putting on your head ideally. Often times people who get posted here use a giant bow (or other inappropriate head piece) with short hair and it often looks quite stupid.

If you have short hair volume is the key to try and balance this out.

>>8625951
>>8625953
>>8626017
>>8626077
Thanks for the info and tips! I'm currently putting together my first coord, and I'd like to avoid looking awful so I'm trying to cover every base here.

>>8626024
They were being helpful you shit stain. Now the other anon can look for a lightweight item of clothing designed for that express purpose, because they will know what it's called.

My pet peeve is handmade lolitas that use tulle trims or trails at the bottom of their skirts. I keep seeing it, and it looks like their petticoat is disintegrating.

>>8626096
No problem! You can also go ask for help in the coord help thread too.

>people who posts clearly sketchy "lolita" stores selling brand rip offs for $30 and INSIST that they "guess lolita isn't for them" when you tell them it's not a real store and they should look at bodyline instead.
>"reasonable price". not "in my budget". "reasonable price".

>>8625986
Or, and this is even rarer, the comm consists of rational adults who talk it out when they have issues instead of making secrets or trying to ruin one another's lives.

My comm has had a few personality clashes, but almost no drama, because the parties involved had a moderator/admin intervene to sort shit out. They're not bestest buddies now, but they don't gossip about one another or post each other to ita threads or any of the usual pettiness.

>>8625989
She didn't say they don't like eachother, just that they don't spend a lot of time talking with eachother. You really sound like you're projecting.

>>8623607
Be nice to the newbies :(

>>8623608
Obviously they sexually identify as an attack lolita. On all levels except bank account, they are lolita.

>>8623771
Nobody ever says "My <group> is good at handling drama when it arises", do they? When that's the far more important stat.

>>8625895
Quiet you, or I'll get Romania and Australia in here.

Ultimate pet peeve
>No concrit please, I'm perfect as I am.

Minor peeves
>Going all salty for WIP
>Only talking of Lolita during meets
>CoF in general
>Costumey regal Lolita

>>8626293
>just that they don't spend a lot of time talking with eachother

The post flat out said it's a clique comm and nobody talks to anyone outside their friend group. Lol. Don't say things you don't mean if you don't want people to take it for what it is described like.
>"h-how dare u not read into any ulterior meanings I didn't mention u projectile b-b-baka ;-;"

>>8623684
This is also my pet peeve like fuck, i call them petti wedgies

>>8623608
I'm pretty big into the 'lolita lifestyle' myself and I still think these types are annoying. You don't need to have all the latest brand prints to be considered a lolita but you need SOME of the clothing. What if it turns out you don't like it once you've got it on? Are you still going to hang around the community and call yourself lolita then?

>>8626024
Did anon not throw in enough ^_^ and :D emoticons for your liking?

>>8623597
Ah yes, I still remember this awesome post someone made last year.

>>8626654
Oh god I remember this.
>princess-pauper-poppets
>poppets
Gets me every time.

all the fucking newfags ITT are my pet peeve, holy shit

>>8623749
Holy shit, the disability thing has been everywhere lately. I get that you cant know how someone feels by looking at them, that health problems don't always show on the outside but if someone mentions fuckig spoons to me one more time I'm going to teach them about acute temporary fatigue syndrome.

Everybody is fucking tired and in pain all the time, its called life.

>>8626538
>>No concrit please, I'm perfect as I am.
This is my top pet peeve too. Concrit is helpful for everybody and it's always the girls who look shit that do this.

>>8626654
I think my entire body has frozen in the cringe position after reading that.
Holy shit.

>>8623684
Petti Camel toe

>>8626263
Every damned time.
It's a children's parasol. It's not a damned real parasol.

Sets jimmies at maximum overrustle:
>being called bitchy/elitist/mean for offering concrit or polite help
>"IM NOT LIKE OTHER LOLITAS IM SPECIAL"
>wannabe efamers who constantly try to kiss up and make fan pages they invite everyone and their mother to like
>ugly hairstyles, bad makeup
>ugly/cheap/badly styled/poorly maintained wigs

Jimmies rustled:
>non-Lolita shoes, especially in sweet
>newbies trying to give concrit to literally everyone
>casual is now major nitpick/ita tier
>FUCKING FOREVER21 BLOUSES THAT AREN'T ACTUALLY LOLITA SUITABLE AT ALL
>"Lolita is so expensive!!!" yet has an equally or more expensive hobby like BJDs or cosplay

>>8625997
Kek

>>8626778
>casual is now major nitpick/ita tier
What kind is being called ita? The old casual with cutsew/skirts or the new basic coord-casual?

>you only dislike this because she's fat and ugly
>you only like this because she's skinny and pretty
No, shit. It's fashion to be worn on a body, not a painting. Make a collage or lay flat if you want to have a hobby that doesn't rely on the shape of your body.

>>8626778
Casual is not ita, normal non-OTT coords are casual.

>>8626778
I don't get your point about lolita being expensive. Lolita IS expensive, it's a luxury hobby and even Bodyline or Taobao will be expensive since you need more than just a dress.
And there is nothing wrong with having other expensive hobbies and not wanting to splash some cash on lolita. I love fashion more than I love cosplay thus I only invest a small amount of money to get a cosplay that's sufficient to me. This still makes cosplay an expensive hobby as well.

>>8626819
>>8626827
Did you two miss the point of the thread?

>>8626835
It might be anon's pet peeve but it's not a really legit pet peeve imo.

>>8626863
My pet peeve is people complaining about other people's pet peeves. Is that legit?

>>8626819
Non OTT coordinates are not casual by default, idiot.

>>8626827
It is expensive, but I'm specifically talking about how people will complain about how costly it is like they'd never spend that much on anything, or that Lolita is somehow more frivolous than dolls or cosplay.

>>8626800
The old casual.

>>8626869
That's not my personal opinion but rather the current notion looking at how nitpicks threads are full of "too boring" comments.

>>8626871
Normalfags will do this all the time. Buying excpensive cars, electronics or fashion brands like Chanel are totes legit, but when it's about lolita brands spending money is ridiculous.

>>8623607
Tbh I'm a "newbie" (been in the fashion for a year and a half) and I consider myself good enough to give out coordination tips

>>8626891
Do us a favor and please stop.

>>8626891

I wouldn't take that as a personal attack on you.

But, consider how in this thread we're already boggling over why newbies think a wig is mandatory because that's somehow the only thing they focus on in the ita thread and not the bajillion other complaints about any ita outfit, or just a few weeks ago some idiot newbie tried to make out that dark shoes were mandatory for grounding lolita coords (bull. shit.). There's so many things that newbies get mixed up, remember wrongly, or just outright were told the wrong thing. Can't really blame other girls for being frustrated when they find out they received the wrong info because some newbie with her head up her ass thought it was a piece of cake to shit some lolita words she'd just learned in order to look cool.

Personally I don't really mind if newbies repeat info, so long as they CITE THEIR SOURCE. That way it's obvious that it's not their own info, it's easy to doublecheck what the original source says (we'd blame the newbie less), there's still free flow of information, and the newbie looks less like an idiot if the advice doesn't exactly work out.

>>8626891
The only newbies that dress well are the ones who are fully decked in brand and basically only dress in full-sets.
You haven't seen enough and tried to judge and give advice that's beyond "Get a petticoat and wear a blouse".

>>8626919
A year and a half in any fashion is enough to time to pick up information, experiment and dress well. It's not that hard. It just seems that way because 90% of lolitas are female neckbeards who can't grasp basic aesthetics and likely fat and poor.

>>8626024
*pig-headed

fyi

>>8626778
Pet Peeve: People who complain when others are griping how expensive a luxury is.

>>8626974
Pet peeve: People who think lolita is a luxury hobby. Collecting cars is a luxury hobby.

>People who project their fit issues onto other people.

i.e. "She's fat so her things aren't fitting properly!"
"She's skinny so she's swimming in her clothes!"
"Busty so BOOBLOAF!!111!"
"WTF I CAN'T FIT THAT DRESS SO HOW CAN SHE WEAR IT?!"

Unless there's visible pulling, the seams are bursting, the buttons are straining, there's too much excess fabric, fabric gaps, or there's lumps everywhere I think "fit" nitpicks on here are bullshit 80% of the time and come from jellychans.

People who think that newbies dress like shit 100% of the time. Nigga, you put out all these guides so new lolitas won't dress like trash and then when they utilize it you say they still dress like trash? Come on. If you've got a basic understanding of what looks good on your body (color, fit, and style-wise), lolita is easy as fuck.

>Polite concrit only! ^_^
Fuck you. This is closet of asspats, nobody is a dick to anyone.

>non-binary
Or
>I'm actually a boy uwu
Into the trash

>>8626984
This.

Along with that,
>Muh dream dress!!!

If you wanted it, you should've gotten it before they did. Go hunt it down just like everyone else and coordinate it to your liking. You sound like an entitled child.

>>8626982
>dresses cost $300 when being released
>"That's not a lucury FOR ME!!"
Alright richfag, spend your allowance however you want.

>>8626922

>>8627065
>Kids who think people who buy new brand are obviously buying it with allowance money.
>What is a decent paying job?
>What is being an adult?

>>8626984
A dress not looking good on someone is not a hard concept to grasp. There is more than the extremes "bursting seams" and "looking like a kid wearing mom's dress". In normal every-day fashion people wear missfitting clothes all the time just because they are between two sizes or just have the wrong body-shape for it. Lolita is no exception. Just because it fits on your body doesn't mean it's flattering.

>>8626982
> my mom: You spent $150 on a dress??? (mbok auction)
later that same day
> my mom: oooh look these Dooney and Bourke bags are on sale! Look, this generic and unremarkable bag is only $275 now!!

But that's just moms though isn't it.

>>8627069
For the average household buying $300 dresses on a regular basis is a luxury. Spending this much money just like that without considering it a luxury is not ordinary.
You sound like that brat in the feels thread who said she can spend all her allowance on lolita.

>>8626684
Spoons???

>>8627089
I work a full time retail management job. I don't have a college degree. I make 2k a month before taxes and insurance. After pitching in with my husband for living expenses and bills, I have a good deal of money to save or do what I want with it. It's called budgeting. I can afford to buy a $300 brand new dress a month if I want to.

>>8627174
How much is your rent and bills then, your half only I mean?

>>8627174
So you make less than $24k a year. Just because you clearly don't have any other expenses or do anything else with your money, doesn't mean buying a $300 dress and accessories isn't a luxury. You literally just don't have bills or much in savings, anyone could "budget" money towards lolita with those specifications.

>>8627168
i hate that you made me look this up

>>8627185
Just because something isn't a necessity doesn't mean it's a luxury.

>>8627196
I'm sorry but if you were living on your own with $24k proper you would not be spending hundreds on a dress per month. Just be grateful the only thing you've got to worry about is an insurance bill and clocking in to work on time.

>>8627199
Kek. It must suck to be this poor.

>>8627174
In this case I actually have about the same amount of money as you, if I wanted and had no other hobbies I could easily afford many dresses, but I still consider it a luxury. Just because you can easily things doesn't mean they aren't luxuries.
Also I doubt you realistically can afford this much brand considering you put money aside, go on dates with your husband, have other expenses like a car or debts.

>>8627174
>$2,000 before taxes and insurance and rent
>so at most $1400
>$300 a month on dresses
Do you not have a car or something? 0 savings? That sounds like some bad decision making

>>8627208
SHUT UP POORFAG, STOP USING LOGIC D;

>>8627174
You come off as a snob but I earn almost as much as you and I'm just a college student with a well-paying student job.
And it's not budgeting if you spend all your money on lolita instead of savings and other fun things, it's crazy.

>>8627195
I still have no clue how this works. I've read so many articles and I still have no fucking clue.

>>8627195
The only thing I have done on that list is get out of bed today, and I am already out of energy.

>>8627223
Cross out the things you have done/are going to do today and count how many spoons you have used

>>8627236

I like how "go to work" takes the same amount of spoons as "get groceries" like being in a supermarket for 30min will sap you of the same amount of energy as standing at a retail job for five hours or sitting in a cubicle all day.

>>8627241
It says "go to work", not working. It's just the transit.

>>8627085
It is all a matter of perspective. People think spending $300 on a purse is silly because you can get a cheap one from Walmart. Some people think $150 is expensive because you can get a cheap on at Forever21. Someone thinks one is a worthwhile investment and the other thinks it isn't.

It is all a luxury.

>>8627229
Ha
>Still in bed
>Living that neet life
>100% trash

>>8626654
Purrfect copypasta

>>8626684
Honestly as someone who is ACTUALLY disabled and has a REAL chronic illness. I hate all of these tumblrinas that say how rough their bullshit "disease" is. Seriously fuck you and fuck your self diagnosis.
>sorry to rant

>>8626917
Cite references to what? color combinations? do you want newbies to refer to pantone colors when suggesting a different shade of pink?

is not rocket science, is common sense

>new friend wants to get into lolita
>encourage her at first
>invite her to meets
>she goes to 1 or 2, has a good time makes friends
>starts shittalking other lolitas
>complains about some random ita she saw in town
>complains about other girls in local comm
>gets very judgmental, trollshields
>looks for validation, complains about other newbies and itas
>reassure her 1000 times she looks fine
>tfw bitchy myself and maybe influenced her, mostly agree with what she says
>but don't really care, don't have time to pick on every ita out there

>suddenly she starts making a bunch of excuses why she can't go to meets
>everytime we talk she makes excuses
>"ok friend, sure"
>starts talking about how she's afraid to go to meets because of drama
>even though she had a good time when she went
>reads /cgl/ and secrets every week
>says she's scared of drama because of them
>claims she was ripped apart here
>look it up and there are 2 or 3 negative comments at most

>new friend wants to get into lolita
>encourage her at first
>invite her to meets
>she goes to 1 or 2, has a good time makes friends
>starts shittalking other lolitas
>complains about some random ita she saw in town
>complains about other girls in local comm
>gets very judgmental, trollshields
>looks for validation, complains about other newbies and itas
>reassure her 1000 times she looks fine
>tfw bitchy myself and maybe influenced her, mostly agree with what she says
>but don't really care, don't have time to pick on every ita out there

>suddenly she starts making excuses why she can't go to meets
>"ok friend, sure"
>starts saying she's afraid to go because of drama
>reads /cgl/ and secrets every week
>says she's scared of drama because of them
>claims she was blasted here so she stop posting pics
>look it up
>2-3 relatively tame comments

>>8627204
Hahaha different anon here.
I have the same, a bit more, and can go on dates, my husband can afford his hobbies, we have savings account, and etc.
We don't have a car, but we don't need one, we can cycle to work. We are young, we don't need kids or anything now. Is doable, and yet doesn't have to be done (buying dresses every month).

Luxury entails sacrifice. There is no sacrifice.

Go get an useful degree, kiddos

>>8627286
>Luxury entails sacrifice.
No it doesn't. Its like a billionaire saying they don't live in luxury because they can easily afford caviar every night. Luxury has nothing to do with sacrifice, luxury is dumping extra money into things you don't need. Lolita is a luxury. If you want to be technical about it almost everything you don't need is a luxury, going out to eat, buying nice furniture, etc.

>>8627299

^Preach.

>>8627286
>Go get an useful degree
Lol, anon shut up. You don't even have a car for fuck's sake and you're buying dresses.

Random ass pet peeves/things I'm getting sick of seeing:

>slow-ass responding sellers on LM

If you know you're not going to be quick at replying/shipping/etc., make a note of it on your sale.

>diamond socks

Especially when shoehorned.

>bat headdress

Don't kill me. I have a black one, and I thought it was cool after first, but now it's so trendy that I don't even want to wear it anymore. I do wish we saw the white one in coords more often tho.

>neon wigs

Please fucking stop.

Why are people so defensive about the luxury label? Anything that's not essential to live in your current situation but provides pleasure is luxury. Any hobby is luxury. It's not a bad thing.

>>8627323
This

>>8627317
I'm not defending her shit attitude. But you need to be aware that there's places in the world where owning a card is a complete waste of money and luxury in itself. Where you really don't need it more than a frilly dress.

>>8627317
>>8627317

Seriously. There are tons of people without college degrees who make more than anon. It's really idiotic to assume you can get more money with a degree, bc half the time all that time and money spent on school is for nothing.

>has master's degree and a stable job that pays shit

>>8626684

I swear to god the spoons thing is the most retarded shit. It complicates the concept of being too fucking tired to do anything. Most people will get the idea if you say 'energy levels' and will say shit like "Yeah, I used to be able to clean up, but now my husband has to do it for me!" See? Simple concept demonstrated.

Just as someone who has to make concepts accessible to a normal person, spoons is a fucking shit analogy.

>>8627333
So US-centric, I only ever hear americans complainibg about useless degrees.
In my country you're almost lost without a degree of some sort.

>>8627349
Well in /your/ country, do you have to spend thousands of dollars on college? Or is yours ~free~?

Some people aren't lucky, and classism here is really fucking prevalent.

>>8627349

It's because of the payout from attending a school at 20-30k a year needs to be a lot to justify the student loans of anywhere from 5 digit to 6 digit.

School is nearly free in the EU, which is why you don't hear people complain as much. They get out with less debt, so a 30-40k job is not as bad as someone saddled with debt trying to make payoffs on the same salary.

I would rather have mid 50k salary a year with no debt than my projected 6 digit salary in 10 years to be honest. I hate the idea I'm enslaved to some privatized company because the US is shit at handling student debt.

>>8627355
No of course it's free. I'm just pretty tired of people telling me how useless college education is and how degrees are worth nothing just because they assume everyone is american.
Like you're making fun of >>8627286 while anon could live in a country where getting a good degree is useful advice.

>>8627349
Useless degrees are a US thing due to just the often insane costs of getting a degree. Most any job requires a degree, some degrees are frankly useless or just get your application thrown out, and you usually need to go into debt just to get the degree to start.
When someone is in the hole financially before they even graduate and then can't get a job because >lol wrong degree, that's fucked for them and their degree is useless and their time wasted, essentially.

>>8627069
Except you know, there are plenty of richfag kids that don't work and are under 18 that have their parents buy everything for them

>>8627349
You are lost in the US without a degree, which is why it's worthless. Bachelor's degrees in the US have basically become equivalent to high school diplomas.

On topic: It peeves me that every time the whole money/budgeting topic comes up, everyone and their mom has to brag about how well they can budget, how much they can spend, etc. I spend quite a bit as well, but I feel like it's silly to assume that everyone is in the same position (for example, able to live and share housing expenses with an SO). It comes off incredibly rude and altogether unhelpful, but then again, maybe I'm asking too much of /cgl/.

>>8627395
Yeah, if you're still in college, have normal steady job and/or live alone and can't spend hundreds every month you're automatically a poorfag. Isn't the demographic of lolita in the 20's?
Who are those married rich people with well-paying jobs, why do they assume everybody has to be like them or else is poor and why are they browsing 4chan instead of living the high life?

>>8627405

>implying that we can actually afford to live the high life instead of clinging onto princess fantasies as a piss poor substitute

We're just trying to stay high all the time.

>>8627327
>where owning a card
Yeah, cards are really stupid to have for transportation unless you're a wizard.
>hope you live in a temperate climate where it never hails, rains, thunders, or snows too
>oh and hope your public transport takes you everywhere because you'll be limited to that as well

>>8627236
But how many spoons do you even start with????
How do you know?

How come all the charts have different spoon values!?

It's so inconsistent.

>>8627185
>>8627174
Yeah... i agree, there's no way that anon is putting anything towards savings. lolita is probably the only think they can spend money on too- they probably live in a shitty apartment/house, have to worry about using electricity/water/etc, and can never go on vacation because they wouldnt be able to afford a hotel. sounds like hell.

>>8627611
You start out with 15 spoons
A lot of my friends use this method all the time, and it drives me nuts seeing them posting how they used too much spoons and that they're in physical pain

I think it also varies from person to person, but I can kind of see the point. It's a good way to explain disabilities to people.

>>8627344
I agree
>I'm sorry, I can't come to the party because I just am not feeling up for it. I will definitely try to make it up to you
vs
>sorry, I don't have enough spoons today

>>8627643
The spoons thing only bothers me when everyone and their mother uses it instead of saying they're lazy/tired or whatever. I only learned of it through a disabled friend and when I see perfectly normal people throw spoons around, like Choke for example, it just screams new levels of attention whore.

>>8626684
I work a full time job with fatigue from PTSD and you know what, I don't even use spoons any more because people get beligerent and rude any time it's mentioned regardless of who it is or how it's brought up.
I'm sorry I don't have the energy to do anything other than work and sleep, but it doesn't affect you at all.

What bothers me is how so many lolitas seem to have "invisible illnesses"; it's a niche hobby, seems a bit unrealistic that so many of the people participating in it are ~medical enigmas~.

>>8627705
Actually, it makes perfect sense that someone would have to have something mentally wrong with them for them to dress up in a doll/child/clown fashion. The best coords look like weird art teacher attire, and the rest looks like female aspie uniforms.

>>8627654
>>8626684
>Have rarer form of narcolepsy (Mostly spontaneous muscle weakness/dropping.)
>mfw some snowflake motherfucker brings up spoons.

>>8627712
G8 b8 m8

>>8626684
>if someone mentions fuckig spoons to me one more time

What

>>8627819
Really though. What sane/neurotypical person would someone willingly jump into a fashion where there are everyday stories about
>being harassed for wearing it in public?
>fighting with family/BF over it?
>constant community drama?
>ambassadors being mistreated or shady themselves?
Frills get to be the scapegoat for why the world hates them, instead of their festering personality and mental issues.

>come here to bitch about dumb fucks with their petticoat stuffed up their ass
>spoons, degrees, PTSD
Come on cgl, learn how to polite sage for OT.

>>8627882
most gulls these days are newfags from tumblr. that's asking a lot, usually they can't even figure out how to quote

>>8627638
Why do they require a theory incorporating spoons for any of this? What does it have to do with disabilities?

http://strawpoll.me/5557859

>>8627892
If you google "spoon theory" you have to read a big dumbass story but here's the jist:
>Girl explained disability to a friend at a restaurant by holding a bunch of spoons
>Every time you do something, get up, get dressed, leave house, you lose a spoon
>Normal people have lots of spoons. Disabled people only have like 3 so doing few basic things wears them out and they can't function anymore.
The word "theory" in this makes no sense

>>8627872
I just wanted frilly dresses.

>>8627705

>tfw my comm has "spoonies" in double figures
>i guess everybody in this part of the us spontaneously developed fibromyalgia at some point

>>8628003
I've come to hate this whole thing mostly because of one person I know. She's constantly complaining about "not having enough spoons" for eating and work and shit but oh, burning man? Totally fine! If you don't have the energy to function basically, how do have the energy to run around in the desert for a week?
Also I'm pretty sure her "disability" is just depression. I have depression too but I manage to get my shit done and not act like I have a physically taxing disease.

>>8628102
IMO invisible illness is on a spectrum and while the spoon analogy is somewhat helpful it doesn't always apply to people with "invisible illnesses". For example, I have an eating disorder that creates crippling anxiety. Going to work? Easy peasy. Taking a shower? No sweat. Making dinner? That's gotta be six spoons at least. Trying on a pair of jeans? Probably 4 spoons. I'm not super skinny or super fat so my "disease" is technically "invisible" but, there are some things I am more capable of doing and other things less so.

>>8628102
Does anyone else know a bunch of these "not enough spoons to eat" girls who are fat as shit? Who do they think they are kidding. I know at least three girls who constantly mention how they don't eat ~for days~ but can't wear brand because they have waists bigger than my bust, and I'm a fatty.

>>8628102
>"disability" is just depression
It might actually be bipolar or borderline.
I know so many mentally fucked people like what you're describing. They usually
>can't prioritize
>are extremely impulsive
>have drastic mood wings = energy for things they enjoy and demotivation for daily unpleasantries
>seek attention and validation constantly

It's unfortunate, but I think certain mental illnesses just make people assholes.

>>8628114
I might add that I understand that the spoon theory is for folks with serious chronic illness such as narcolepsy, MD, etc which technically I don't fall under but folks with any "illness" tend to adapt the theory and that's where it falls apart.

>>8628118
FWIW you can not eat ~for days~ and pig out for two days and easily gain weight.

>>8625969
90$ at Sephora for 3 items is pretty regular, your sensitive skin didn't make the price go up, that's just quality makeup for anyone.

>>8628118
Did you ever consider that maybe they genuinely believe they're eating less and don't have a motivation to necessarily lie about it? Nobody cares about "fooling" you.
Fatties who fail at dieting usually do one or two of the following:
>eat a large amount and exercise but overestimate how many calories they burn
>underestimate how much they're actually eating because they drink their calories and don't keep a food diary
>are eating less but are eating high carb, low protein food that's loaded with calories and drinking calories

>>8627270
I had to go wait outside in line at Universal's Guest Services because when my husband had gone the previous day he ended up dropping my debit card. I didn't think about it when I had to go, but I have lupus and sunlight makes me really sick. We were standing out there for awhile and I was feeling shittier and shittier. There was this chick and a dude in front of us in line, she had this weird gray and black layered hair and I would occasionally hear her talk about tumblr. I talk to my husband about how I don't think I can take much more, my sunlight allergy is making me too sick (it's how I tend to refer to the various side effects of lupus) and I hear her laugh and I hear what I think is her saying "Sunlight allergies aren't a thing.' I wasn't sure I heard her right or else I would have called her out, but tumblrinas are fucking judgey bitches with no tolerance for people with real problems.

>>8628127
Why bother with the constant posts about not eating though.

>come to thread about lolita-related rants hoping for funnies
>it's actually a bunch of NEET autistic shut-ins letting steam out about fatties, tumblrinas, mental illness, and jobs because they have no irl friends to vent this shit to


Saged and hidden. SIGH.

>>8628135
I bet you message people to tell them you're unfollowing them too

>>8628134
Because they genuinely believe they aren't overeating or underexercising and therefore want sympathy for their perceived hopeless situation. What about that didn't you understand? Why are you looking for malicious intent there? Got a fattie you care to bitch about?

>>8628139
Found the tumblr with no followers

>>8628118

Oh god I used to know a girl like this.
I just figured she used all her spoons for ice cream.

>>8628160
10/10

>>8628160
kek

>>8628160
>fatties use utensils for eating joke

>>8628121
I don't think that it applies to narcolepsy, though. Clinical narcolepsy isn't being tired all of the time or "Boo hoo I want to sleep in."
The closest equivalent that I can think of is having a 'normal' number of spoons, but accidentally dropping them everywhere a couple of times a day and needing to gather them back up.

>>8628121
Unless someone's blog specifically says their condition, treatments, and so forth, any time someone talks about spoons, I immediately assume that they're one of those John Green fantards on Tumblr who think that being sickly is romantic and dreamy and the road to the easy life.

>>8626982
Completely agree with that, when compared to car collecting, battlebots, air soft (gear+ events are pricey), paintball, and hunting is cheaper or the same price.

>>8628258
(Men just don't want the prissy connotations of 'luxury' to apply to their pricey toys; those are still luxury hobby items.)

>>8628114
I understand that these things make life more difficult; I don't go out much and socialize because it takes a lot of my energy. And if someone consistently acts in that way, that's one thing. But if you're complaining about getting through the day on a regular day but can go to cons/burning man/Disneyland/whatever that's generally kind of a situation where it's going to "cost a lot of spoons" so to speak and be fine, I'm going to discount your issues a bit.

I had in mind situations where newbies give technical advice, eg- corsets, petticoat, etc. Even something as simple as petticoats, if a newbie says "The handbook recommends an A-line petticoat for a princess seam dress, which I think this is", it's better and more transparent than "This dress needs an A-line". The first one cites the source, takes no responsibility, and still passes along info. The second one implies personal experience and endorsement. Getting an extra petti is no biggie, but consider if they're giving info on body shaping foundation garments, newbies could really hurt somebody by recommending the wrong thing, all because they wanted to "join in" the discussion.

Speaking of colours, though, one of the strange things you can tell newbies apart, they seem to have a disconnect between real life and the monitor. Maybe it's just that they've never seen the items in real life, real lolitas seem to make mental adjustments when they see photos where pastels are too bright to be pastels anymore. Newbies, though. They'd derail half the thread saying green socks don't match the dress, then continue to explain that the socks look green even after being told that they're ivory in real life. So yes, either newbies do need to refer to pantone colours, or at least shut up when told that their colour sense is off and/or the colours are inaccurate.

As for color combinations, yes, it also helps to cite sources, or at least name the colour scheme. Everybody knows a pop of colour, or can google it. Do you know what grounding an outfit is? It's when you add darker elements to an outfit because it looks too light. It works for normies who think pastels are too cotton candy, but it doesn't apply to sweet lolitas. Do you know how the newbies are using the term? At least one said that all outfits need to have darker shoes. If they'd said up front "lolita tips said that", then we could have quickly solved it with "lolita tips is not reliable"

>>8628333

Forgot to cite >>8627273

>>8628235

>open my fanny pack
>all my spoons fall onto the floor
>grabbing fistfuls of spoons and shoving them back into my fanny pack while repeatedly apologizing
>make my way to the door, still apologizing
>fanny pack is still open, I'm leaving a trail of spoons behind me as I leave

I never went to another lolita meet again

Pet peeve - people supporting oo jia.

Btw, this is from the page of that girl who added EVERYONE and their mom the other day.

>>8628654
Well when will AP give my my Holy Lantern bedsheets then?

>>8628654
not gonna lie, if Oo Jia did one of the nice Moitie architecture prints as bedding i would give her all my money.

>>8627872
This is bait, but anyways. Wearing it is fun, and I look good when I do.

>being harassed for wearing it in public?
I only ever get compliments. I live in a pretty progressive area.
>fighting with family/BF over it?
My boyfriend loves it when I get dressed up, and encouraged me to get into the fashion.
>constant community drama?
My community has lots of younger girls, but everyone is pretty kind and try to be inclusive.
>ambassadors being mistreated or shady themselves?
This only matters if you give a fuck about the ambassadors. They are adults who can quit if they are dissatisfied with the organization, and complain publicly if they witness problems. The organization itself is a bit of a gong show, but it's pretty much just a way for Misako to spread her influence and travel. I don't really care about the hype.

>>8625768
This.
Also...

>buying full sets wearing it as a whole and posting on CoF

If I wanted to see the full set, I would go to the brand's sites/magazine releases. This is boring.

>>8625969
Not always the case actually. I can tolerate at most only the occasional use of some eye shadow and liner. Not foundation at all. I've tried even expensive shit meant for sensitive skin. Still allergic. I would wear more makeup if I could.

>>8628677
Not everyone coordinates things to excite and amaze you anon. Granted, some people who do buy full sets do so to show off. Others just really like a particular series and want to own everything from it. Sometimes they might want to wear it together. Shocking, I know!

>>8628128
Sunlight allergies really are though, who the fuck does she think she is?

>>8628672
>Uses a reaction image indicating bait
>States it is bait in first sentence regardless
>Responds to bait

Bravo

>>8627677
You're right it doesn't affect me, that's why I'm bored of people bringing it up all the time on facebook/tumblr wherever. The pity party isn't fun, and most people offering sympathy are faking it because no one understands or cares.

Kind of sucks but if your body or mind starts trying to kill you from the inside with hormones, maybe it knows something you don't.

>>8628654
Yeah she added me, why? Who is she?

>>8628881
Idk but she invited everyone to like her store too. Just wants to be an efame whore I guess.

She's got a long way to go.

>>8628881
I suspect she's adding everyone from CoF to get more traffic to her store

>>8628896
That's a pet peeve of mine. Random lolita I don't know repeatedly sending friend requests despite being told 'I don't know you, won't add you.'. Just because you're also a lolita. Lookign at the mutual friends list, also see they've tried to ad a bucnh of your friends also into loli as well at same time.

>>8628658
If you ever have a successful clothing company I'll be sure to steal all the in-house art made specifically for your garments and put them on whatever the fuck I feel like, since you apparently think it's totally ok.

>>8628003
PDX?

>>8628716
I can respect that but it's often the ones wearing full sets who complain about casual or old school being boring.

>ITT: I hate all those stupid tumblr fakers and their fake illnesses and spoons, they make it SO hard for TRUE and HONEST sick people like me!!
Lol no. Who would believe this shit? The proportion of people claiming they have weird allergies and shit on /cgl/ is just as high as facebook and maybe slightly less than tumblr. I don't know why you all act like you're special.

>>8628913
Not that anon, but I was thinking the same exact thing

>>8628924
>maybe slightly less than tumblr
Have you ever even been on tumblr?

Plus it's legitimate to be frustrated with people using the spoons analogy in lieu of actually communicating with someone. When you tell a person you can't help them or do something with them because MUH SPOONS, it's rude. If you want to say "ugh I need to wash these few cups and plates but I am seriously out of spoons for the day" it's not rude.

I didn't even know about this spoons thing until I read this thread. Now I'm worried I'm gonna see it on my dash soon cos I know people who would eat this shit up if they find out about it.

I hate Tumblr and its glamorising of illnesses.

>>8628754
>Kind of sucks but if your body or mind starts trying to kill you from the inside with hormones, maybe it knows something you don't.

Not even that anon but what exactly are you trying to imply with this?

>>8628924
>The proportion of people claiming they have weird allergies and shit on /cgl/ is just as high as facebook and maybe slightly less than tumblr.

FUCKING THISSSSSS!!
Holy shit, every fucking thread when someone brings up something personal:
>muh weight
>muh eating disorder
>muh shitty bf
>muh NEETism
>muh mental illness
>muh meds

Seriously the only difference is that anons are bitching without a username.

>>8628936
that sickanon doesn't come from good breeding stock

>>8628955
A lot of people don't. Maybe even you for thinking that it's okay or normal to tell someone that.

>spoons

I'm not english and I'm understanding like the 10%

>>8628909
Do you know what sarcasm is?
I doubt Oojias fabric would make comfortable bedding anyway. Anyway, I'd be very happy if AP sold some more decoration and interior.

>>8628958
except i dont? i was translating the less than subtle implication

SPOOOOOONNNSSSS

>>8629042
>how dare you ask a question directed at anon and mistake me for same anon despite me not making the distinction that I am a diff anon!

Alllllrighty then.

>>8629051
overdramatic much?

>>8629051
>quoting Jim Carrey

how old are you

>>8629056
how dare you respond to a post responding to me without making it clear you are not, in fact, me!? didnt you learn from my mistake?

>>8626917
unrelated anon here, I've been lurking in lolita for a couple of years now and I've not had the money to buy more than a couple of things and haven't had the confidence to wear it out, and I get pissed off when I see newbies giving out shitty advice because they have one bodyline dress and think they're hot shit
Obviously I'm not going to give advice anywhere other than here but it really grinds my gears when kawaii pastel decora demiboy starts giving their opinion after purchasing one replica salopette.

>however if it's decent advice, continue
>but we all know that most of the time it's just not

>>8629055
>>8629056
>>8629057
>samefagging this hard
Cringe.

>>8628654
THIS REPLICA CHAN IS IN MY COMM

>>8629087
sorry to disappoint

>>8629101
>thinking MS paint proves anything
Why are you trying to win anon's approval anyway? Go away little girl.

>>8629104
>implying im skilled enough to do more than paste a screenshot

>>8628128
>tumblrinas are fucking judgey bitches with no tolerance for people with real problems.
>talking on 4chan.
>like anyone else is tolerant about real problems.
>topkek

People who buy and sell their pieces within a month (more or less). Or more specifically, right after wearing it to a meet.

I wanna ask them if they have a real estate license because they flip dresses faster than people who flip houses for a living

these threads are so embarrassing

i have no interest in cgl i just come here to see what the lowest common denominator is like

lolita is cool but people who are part of lolita communities are embarrassing

>>8629089
Mine too...

>>8629203

>>8629123

At least we're honest about it. Tumblr has a fake acceptance thing going on where if you don't fall into their neat "oppressed" boxes they will eat you alive for it.

>>8629192
I do this sometimes. If I wear it and then realize the fit isn't very flattering, I'll sell it. I don't really see a problem with that.

>>8626654
This needs to be framed. I wonder what her wardrobe looks like.

>>8629192
>>8629221

I do it too. I'm still relatively new at lolita, and trying to figure out my style. There are a couple of pieces I kinda sorta regret selling, but I've gotten to try a lot of different things, too.

>>8627032
I don't think that anyone thinks that newbies dress like dolldelight puked on them all the time. Newbies tend to be plainer, sure, but that's better than being downright crap. The notable ones that get posted here tend to be the ones who are at least one of your other two pet peeves, and therefore look like shit pretty much by default.

tbh nothing has annoyed me more than this invasion of tumblrina lolitas. And they worst part is they don't even KNOW they're tumblrinas.

>>8628913
>>8628930
Same

>>8629120
Sorry for thinking you're competent...?

>>8627195
Oh god, people really believe this crap? I barely have the energy to get out of bed but I don't have any illness but lack of motivation

My pet peeve is self-diagnosis for sure

>>8627643
Whenever I use the first one, people take it really personally like I'm saying that hanging out with them is a chore and not something I'd do for fun. Usually I make up an excuse about transportation or something...
I don't use the spoon thing because I'm not actually sick/disabled, and nobody here would understand it anyway.

>>8628127
>>8628140
Different anon but I know a fat girl (lolita, so I guess kind of relevant?) who's always talking about how she's been starving herself, even though everyone saw her have a big lunch and eat a full-size Mars bar like five minutes ago. Generally this wouldn't affect me except she makes sure it does, by constantly pointing out how everyone smaller than her "eats so much more" without gaining weight, and from time to time she not-so-subtly implies that all the skinny girls around her must be bulimic. Like if a girl goes to the bathroom after a meal, she points her finger at her throat and wiggles her eyebrows. I can't stand this bitch and wish we could call her out on her shit without being accused of fat shaming or whatever.

>>8628251
>John Green
Yeeech

>>8629971
Alright this is what you're gonna say to her "Just because someone is skinny doesn't mean they have an eating disorder. Look at you for example, you look like someone with BED but you don't, so stop assuming everyne is sick"- or something like that. It worked on someone I know

>>8627195
ok don't hate on the spoons i have a (fully diagnosed by doctors) chronic illness and when used appropriately (aka not by self diagnosed idiots) the spoon theory can be really helpful when explaining symptoms to people who don't live with the same thing i do. i only use it with my family though, not total strangers and on the internet. your spoons have nothing to do with your outfit shut up stop trying to use it for asspats.

on topic:
>newbies dishing out advice, fuck you and your twintails
>cosplay lolita
>'i can't wear makeup because i have sensitive skin!!!' you can get plenty of organic/mineral makeups at drugstore prices, start taking better care of your skin
>fucking square dancing/cheap flat ebay petticoats
>friend requests from complete strangers on the other side of the planet after posting on CoF

>>8630010
Le sigh. Some chronic skin conditions don't allow you to wear much makeup, if that. Organic doesn't automatically mean ok. Don't get me started on places like LUSH - can't even walk past it without wanting to scratch my skin off.

>>8630019
>Some chronic skin conditions
You mean like a permanent rash on your face?

>>8630019
>'le sigh'
get out

>>8630021
Yes, like eczema, or psoriosis. Some get it badly enough that they are allergic to products for even sensitive skin.

>flat shoes
>too much petti poof to the point of looking ridiculous
>that pose where one foot is over the other

>>8629201

>you need more poof!
No thank you, I like minimal poof with my gothic coords

>>8626891
I wouldn't call you a newbie if you're 1,5 year in tbh. Newbies are new but if you're active as a lolita and you can learn pretty fast than after one year you should at least know a lot.

>posting something for sale with detailed info and still getting questions about price and size
Can't you ffing read

>"Oh that's so pretty where did you get it from?"
Ehm where you get all lolita stuff 2ndhand via facebook or shopping services, noob

>"I hate btb/cgl/rumors"
Those people are usually the dumbest and naive ones you can't really talk with. Nobody likes people just saying bad things and I don't like all stupid secrets either but at least some people are honest and share their honest feelings there.

>sjw and special snowflakes
oh come on why not just be someone normal with pretty clothes, if you're just yourself you are very nice as well..at least I hope so.

>I'm so proud of this coord I'm going to put it on CoF. Oh no no critique please I just love it as it is
then just don't post it anywhere.

>going to meets together with not the brightest people
ugh
> stupid people trying to be friends with you even when you said literally no
please leave me alone or sit with the other itas
> people who add you on fb who you dont even know but know you from other social media
for godssake that's why you have public things and not-public things
>newbies that are uber-hyper-excited over everything.
YES that is AP SO WHAT ugh. You don't have to scream it in my face
>thinking anime-fans are always stupid weebs
Yes I like anime, doesn't mean I'm as weaabo as the rest

and last but not least
>"I have so many clothes but I have nothing to wear"
please for all those luxurious lolita's out there..get a check on your brain at the hospital or sell at least half of your wardrobe so you have less to choose from and not these stupid problems.

>>8630595
Maybe they have too many lolita clothing that don't use for casual and no casual stuff or daily jfashion clothing?Some people buy lots of lolita items but out of lolita dress like crap or too plain normie. I'm doing my best to buy casual jfash clothing to not looking sad and plain everyday, better a usable cute wardrobe than a full lolita OTT wardrobe that you use rarely.

>>8627872
pretty sure most of the harassment stories are a bit exaggerated

>>8627852
look up spoon theory

>>8629087
lol

thanks for my daily samefag accusation, paranoia-chan. have you taken your meds today?

pet peeve: straight white female lolitas who talk like black drag queens or use black drag queen reaction images during discussions of lolita.

get a personality and stop borrowing from something you have no experience with. it's cringe as fuck and just tells me you'd rather hide behind some black man than come up with an interesting response.

>>8631050
OH NO SHE BETTER DON'T

>>8630595
>>8630595
You sound really annoying and negative
>posting something for sale with detailed info and still getting questions about price and size
Ok granted this is stupid
>"Oh that's so pretty where did you get it from?"
Oh no someone likes something and is trying to start a conversation about your coord, better sperg out and brush them off!
>"I hate btb/cgl/rumors"
I can't stand people who eat this shit up openly more. They're tryhards most of the time.
>sjw and special snowflakes
Granted
>I'm so proud of this coord I'm going to put it on CoF. Oh no no critique please I just love it as it is
So they shouldn't be allowed to post it ANYWHERE? Not even just their personal page or blog? Ok anon
>going to meets together with not the brightest people
Happens. Make plans with just your friends if you really hate your comm so much.
> stupid people trying to be friends with you even when you said literally no
Wow people are friendly to you, I'm legitimately surprised because you honestly sound like an insufferable bitch
> people who add you on fb who you dont even know but know you from other social media
That's not even lolita-specific
>newbies that are uber-hyper-excited over everything.
Oh no someone getting excited about your outfit - AGAIN! The gall of these people.
>thinking anime-fans are always stupid weebs
Anyone who identifies as a "fan" or part of the "fanbase" of anything is usually the bottom of the barrel and you sound like you fit that stereotype perfectly.
>"I have so many clothes but I have nothing to wear"
You sound jelly.

>>8631150
are you the person who goes down the entire cringe and ita threads and comments on every single image?

>>8631050

>>8631155
fuck no that person is a dipshit

but most of those "pet peeves" are literally just humans interacting normally and spergotron here >>8630595 gets annoyed by it