/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Does FromJapan bid on Mbok on weekends? Just wondering since I put an order in this morning.

>>8620260
>what are your Halloween plans?
relying on CT to get me Horror Garden
watching the rest of the bloodbath from afar

>>8620260
Really hoping to get the Dolly Cat hairbow tonight.

>>8620281
holy fuck i forgot that was tonight

>>8620281
>>8620296
Good luck ladies, I'm also trying to get a headbow. If I'm lucky I'll get the otks too.

What are the chances that Meta will increase production of their squirrel series? I need this dress in my life.

>>8620313
Only if Meta feels like the demand is high (which it is by the looks of it, let's all go email them because ugh we need the dress) then yes, they will restock but we gotta show the demand first.

>tfw u havent met ur goal in savings for BTSSB's Arietta's Ball Gown rerelease and the order period closes at the end of the month
fuck it all for relying on sales selling

This is my first time pre-ordering from meta. How does this work? Are they going to send me an invoice?

I'm stalking the AP website to watch the bloodbath go down ..

I FUCKING LOVE YOU CHIBITENSHI
>GUESS WHO GOT ME MY DOLLY CAT AWW HELL YEAH

>>8620392
congrats anon!!!

>>8620392
Congrats anon... I wasn't in time...

gulls help

i let an item that needed to be signed for sit at the post office for a bit, barely over a week (i have had stuff sit there for SEVERAL WEEKS IN THE PAST) and when i went to have it redelivered tonight i saw that they had already. returned it to sender.

it was a brand new baby jsk.

does anyone have any experience with this?? i'm going to call the post office in the morning and see what the hell is up (WHAT SHIPPING DO THEY EVEN USE FOR RETURNING OVERSEAS ORDERS??). the old ems tracking number is no longer working. will contacting baby and asking them to watch for the package and resend it (i'll pay for the shipping again ofc) do any good? i know their customer service is Notoriously Shit so i am kind of already setting myself up for the worst

>>8620401
don't give up!! surely there will be an AP USA rerelease too, right??

is it just me or is this bloodbath going slower than usual??

>>8620418
>>8620401
It's up now on AP's site

>>8620387
Is dolly cat also going up on the US site?

>>8620425
no the Japanese site, US site isn't going to be for another week I assume.

Anyone manage to get anything from Automatic Honey? Was aiming for the green brooch, but only managed to get the purple. Call me basic, but that shit's cute.

>>8620423
10 minutes only a couple of colorways sold out.

>>8620428
There goes the head bows .. everything else still up

>>8620428
yeah, and lavender for both the OP and JSK were first iirc, black seems least popular
low waist jsks all still in stock too
kind of surprising imo

>>8620430
again idk if it's just me but the refreshing time hasn't been too slow too

>>8620430
Well everything in still in stock in some colorway other than the head bows as of now. I'm surprised black was the least popular colorway though, because it does look like it is.

>>8620430
>>8620432
oh spoke too soon, headbow restocked in sax .. everything is still available

>>8620429
Managed to get pink headbow but that was nerve-wracking. Went back and bot the OTKs as well.

>>8620427
I got pic related! Really happy about it, this was my first time attempting the Automatic Honey bloodbath, and I wasn't expecting to be able to get anything.

>>8620427
Cat the cat necklace in the dark purple with the matching ring. Unfortunately the earrings got away from me, but eh, all I really wanted was the necklace. The ring was an OHH SHITTT impulse.

>>8620426
Thank you!

>>8620441
Cat the cat, yeah, that's what I meant.

*Got the cat

>>8620427
How many pieces do they usually make of each? That shit was gone in under 10 seconds, are there like 10 of each?

>>8620427
Really wanted the rosette but w/e. Love the broach you bought, too cute!

>>8620439
>>8620440
Nice anons congrats!
>>8620437
Headbows all out of stock. It's really surprising, like another anon has been saying how easy it is to refresh the page. It just feels like this release isn't all that popular the second time around; 15 min in and only the headbows are gone.

some bloodbath kek. i wonder how horror garden's release will compare though. also wonder where all the chinese lolitas went

>>8620462
It will release in red and gold. I'm still trying to decide if I want it or not

>>8620462
yeah this is pathetic for an AP release. 25 min in and only the headbow is gone.

I think Horror Garden is going to be brutal, since AP doing goth is so rare.

After this, I just can't support Automatic Honey. Their checkout system is so infuriating. Maybe if they ever completely move to preorders I'll reconsider, but I am really upset that everything sold out so quickly. Every release they have this problem and say "oh just refresh, there's stock!" I refreshed for like 20 minutes. Everything I wanted was all sold out.

>>8620470
well, to be fair, the ops and jsks that weren't black sold out too, except the low waist jsks which somehow are all still in stock

>>8620462
Considering that all but black sold out, it's not as bad as it seems, especially for a second release.

>>8620472

>>8620472
This was my first time ordering from them and I managed to get my second choice item. You just have to be fast at clicking stuff and refresh constantly 10 seconds before the release time starts.

Unrelated, but do you guys know how often Automatic Honey stuff shows up on the secondhand market and how they're priced compared to retail?

>>8620560
different anon but I was so surprised....I refreshed when the first thing on the page was the witching hour rosettes and that was literally as soon as they were on the page and they were gone. You have to admit that this is just a little bit absurd for an indie brand. I don't mind a fight but this just seemed really dumb, especially with all the cart errors I keep hearing about.

>>8620575
I was thinking that too while reading these posts. Why is there a bloodbath for an indie brand. Seems a bit much.

>>8620427
I got the cat necklace in pink! I wanted the purple and the rosette but damn those rosettes went fast

>>8620472
That's weird I managed to get my second choice item and I was sitting in a restaurant, so I did it on my phone.
>>8620560
I saw last years Halloween necklace go for $40 but that's all I've really seen secondhand.

>>8620376
>This is my first time pre-ordering from meta. How does this work? Are they going to send me an invoice?

Since it's on reserve they send you the invoice when they get the items in stock. (I emailed them earlier asking the same thing and they replied within the hour. Their customer service is always awesome!)

>>8620427
I also got the brooch in purple. I was wanting black but its cool.. purple will go with the coord I had planned. I just wanted black for more versatility.

>>8620577
Everyone seems to like Automatic Honey but I've gotten multiple accessories from them and they're not really that great, especially for an indie bloodbath. I guess if you like things similar to Angelic Pretty accessories a lot they're fine.

>>8620593
Is it embarrassing that I want to gather up a group of people who got the purple brooch and wear school uniform coords like we're actually in the same house of a witch academy?

>let me love you my witch sisters

>>8620606
anon i think thats cute as fuck

>>8620417
I think a week is the limit tbh. You should have done something sooner

>>8620606
that would be fucking adorable

>>8620313
>>8620323
They often restock. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

>>8620260
>try to plan halloween meet
>make it on the 31st
>everyone declines because they have other plans
>I have nothing to do on the 31st

Pretty disappointed by CC's coat sale, to be honest. I feel like their prices are a bit higher right now than usual. For example, I got one of the baby coats that they're currently selling for like 100-180 for 2-3 levels (and some of the 2s are bad) for $80 from them not that long ago.
All I wanted was a cute, short brown coat gdi

>>8620687
It's in season, so I figure the best deals for coats are already gone. It looks like they just have that Academy coat from AP in all colorways.

>>8620687
Same. I'll probably keep trolling auction sites for a coat or just bite the bullet and order the one I've been eyeing for years off F+F. Also, third option, just mod an existing wool coat that's been in the back of my closet for years. Only thing is that it'll look more aristo than lolita as it doesn't flair out.

Secrets are up

>>8620417
I've never heard of a post office letting something sit there for weeks (unless it was a lost package they didn't know existed, and assuming you're in the US).
It also seems the US removed international surface mail from it's shipping options (again assuming you're in the US). So they might use regular air mail to send it back.

>>8620687
Fucking this. Wasn't even worth setting an alarm for.

>>8620687
Yeah I thought they were a bit high too. Was debating on this cute Meta sailor coat, but decided that since I already have two coats for lolita, and it doesn't get that cold where I live anyways during winter, I'd rather spend the money on a dress.

Does this say sold out or that i am doing something wrong?

>>8620789
Nevermind, i am an idiot.

>>8620417
US postal gull here; they hold regular sign-for packages for 21 days after the package arrival, including weekends (so if it arrives on the 1st it gets sent back the 22nd), and anything intl. registered, EMS, or US/North American Express will only be held for 7days.

>>8620417
>>8620796
Oh, and to answer your other questions, they'll send it back just the way it came, so, EMS. Try contacting Baby and tell them there was a postal error and they might show mercy on you, but EMS is only held for 7 days, but you might be able to call and talk your post office into holding items longer if you need them to; it's at their discretion.

Seriously i dislike how AP and even lolita got after 2009/2010 i cant get excited about their releases anymore. Dolly Cat is so ugly and OTT and pastel vomit like most or all of their stuff when its not chocolate diarrea all over. Call me an oldfag whiny bitch and say "lawl more for us then" but lolita now is just not the same. It evolved in something so OTT and the lolita "spirit" got kinda lost i see so many lolitas hoarding brand just for the status and the popularity more than because they truly like it,lolitas trying to get famous online,... It just makes me feel sad to know that it will never be like in my glorious ol' lolita days again...I know things evolve but i just hate it now.

i'm super behind the times, who's chlamydia-chan?

>>8620805
I know the feel, anon, the scene as a whole has changed a lot in the past few years. There's not much to be done about it though. Just do you - Buy and wear the clothes you like, and enjoy the fashion in your own way.
(I know that might be missing the point you were trying to make, but I'm just trying to cheer you up a bit)

>>8620808
Some youtuber with questionable tastes and even more questionable opinions. She's called chlamydia-chan because she once used chlamydia as an insult (as far as I know, in any case).

>>8620808
isaki

>>8620755
one comm member went just full rage about one secret about her and is going all LACE. jfc, she accuses someone of bullying, while that person never did.

and I thought the comm was doing well

>>8620811
You are a cutie anon. I just feel like everything changed TOO much you know? I also miss livejournal comms and forums so much

I was able to get the pink Dolly Cat OP and head bow............ on my phone, rofl. That was the least painful release I've encountered.

>>8620805
>have a wardrobe full of old school and Innocent World which is as close to old school classic as you'll probably get
>use the opportunity to get old school burando dream dresses, wear them daily and be a lone lolita like Momoko was and fucking enjoy it
>profit?

>>8620837
Yeah, I know. I actually still try to keep up with good old egl but the newer posts are so scarce and bland that I have to try really hard to care about them. Browsing the archive every now and then is fun though. I miss it terribly. (I feel super old now oh god)

>>8620853
Exactly this

>>8620837
>I just feel like everything changed TOO much you know? I also miss livejournal comms and forums so much
>diff anon

that really can't be helped though. that changed as the internet grew and developed and honestly the movement and scattering of the lolita community was inevitable because of how livejournal began changing and going down a lot and glitching and pissing everyone off, plus with all the better platforms out there people don't even want to bother with lj anymore. it's just too complicated for them to understand like people suddenly became technology inept to old websites or something, even when they were honestly still easy to use. i've witnessed this being in huge animu fandoms that used to be on lj (also harry potter fandom) and now literally all the comms that used to be super active over there are 110% dead. egl and the comm sales are honestly one of the last handful remaining that's still trucking along at a snail's pace. journal sites changed when places like myspace and facebook and twitter and tumblr started coming around, and the internet began growing and becoming more mainstream.

>tl;dr the developments and differences with the technology and websites used was inevitable, because many of us back then grew up as the technology age was still young and growing while now people are living it fully.
>idk this is something i think about a lot in general

>>8620417
Dude just call the USPS hotline and see if they can get it to re-route back to you. Seriously though you need to be quicker than that, they don't hold things very long at a post office. It's not a storage center, they're just trying to deliver mail.

>>8620823
who what where?

Lolita general this far down? Not on my watch.

>>8620860
Two major things contributed to egl on lj's death. In the fall of 2012 there was a major upheaval of both egl and egl-comm-sales at the same time. I forget exactly what it was over but I'm sure you can find the posts on getoffegl. The result was that both comms were shut down simultaneously for two weeks while the moderator/admins were shuffled around, reorganized, and comm rules revamped. At roughly the same time, tumblr was really starting to take off (I remember the first time I went to a tumblr was of those two weeks, and it was so bewildering like "why are there so many gifs???") Well, as they say, it takes two weeks to make/break a habit, so people either moved their activity to tumblr, or they just stopped checking the comm as often.

I remember looking at the archive calendar a year later and posting dropped by something like 90% in 12 months. Most of us never really looked back. It's telling that the only consistently active Lolita community on LJ is the shitposting comm.

>>8621022
See all I remember were the people talking shit abt facebook and tumblr and how confusing it was.

I do think that the feedback system was so engrained with the secondhand sales that not having access to was a big issue.

>>8620440
>>8620427
I got this in white! I'm thrilled because it was the one thing I really really wanted. I also got the cat ring in the Halloween colorway.

I'm salty because at the time livejournal was really active,it ran on my computer like shit so I never really got to use it. Now when I can, there's no one there.

Anyway, I have to agree that lj is just simply not in "style" as a go to place anymore. Which is a shame because despite the internet growing up as >>8620860 said, there STILL isn't a exact replacement, even though people don't use forums much anymore (except for reddit, which the system looks god awful). Facebook is shit and I hate the attitude of the people there (having to use your real name creeps me out too) tumblr is shit for discussion, and instagram and others are even worse.

Part of the problem is that people are more lazy and don't want to have a tab open for each thing
The want to just scroll and reply as they do down. You got notifications on lj, but you still had to open another tab or whatever. At the same time, they want little shines to themselves, of their content, for doing relatively little. When I was a teenager, making a website was in style. A lot of people just make it as a random crap they like, yes, but you don't get the gratification like today's kids do. I remember making a more helpful to others website (I wanted to be efamous of what it meant in 2006 to me- a lot of people visited your website, and signed your guestbook, used your forums and used your shit you made) I worked on it for months just on layout and original stuff and got very little out of it. These days, I got a decent amount of people on tumblr for just uploading a few pictures and reblogging my interests. People are so used to this, why would they work hard to be recognized? In forums it's the same way. My dream on forums when I was younger that I post enough to become of "high status" type of poster, where people refer to you all the time and shit. But again, that took a LOT of work on a smaller group of people. Now to become efamous, it's pretty simple.

I think a lot of this too, I realized.

>>8621109
Fuck e-fame I just want a place to view everyones meetup pictures and photoshoots etc. now days there's really nowhere for that. Where as back in the day, you could expect to see pictures of every meet up or related event that happened anywhere.

We have lost the lolita community as a whole all we have now is our local comm. And it's sad.

>>8620271
Nope.

>>8621125

They just bid for me and I won the auction, so, yes?

>>8621120
Yeah I agree. The closest we got is closet of frills, but it is a growing arms race there, and you can only post pics of surprise, surprise: yourself. I would love if there was an equivalent to what you are describing, but nope. I am a relative newcommer, but I don't really have a sense of community for the lolita fashion. It just seems to be of a bunch of girls talk about it on various sites. I barely recognize people in the same way you are suppose to in a comm. It a little hard to explain but it just doesn't feel... right. Maybe it's because I'm not active on facebook, which is the closest thing we got, ugh.

The reason I brought up efame a lot is because so many people are striving for it these days while being lazy at the same time.

>>8621120
It seems like some people are trying to revive Daily_lolita, at least. I would post, but I haven't gotten any decent pictures of myself recently.

Speaking of which, when I do post, would it be weird to include old coords (like up to a year old) to just sort of show my progression?

>>8621142
>Speaking of which, when I do post, would it be weird to include old coords (like up to a year old) to just sort of show my progression?
No that's not weird, go for it. Lots of people do a roundup post like "here are my coords over the past x months"

>>8621109
Oh I know. I remember reading everything on Oh No They Didn't and Pink is the Black or just getting a forum invite to lime light was the biggest thing. Right now, the biggest forum I know for niche stuff is Den of Angels.

Reddit can work and I use it for all my other forum needs but there just isn't a huge one for Lolita, partly because there is no central reddit for that kind stuff. It's like they can't decide if they want EGL or Lolita

>>8620898
dutch comm. some fat ass got buthurt

>>8621131
> We do currently offer a manual bidding service for Mbok.
> Our buying service operating hours are from 10am until 7pm JST on weekdays (excl. National Holidays)
(Note: As customer support is only available on weekdays, for all weekend enquiries, we shall reply the following working day. Additionally, there may be slight delays for contact relating to your items during the weekend and national holidays)
Well they should update their Q&A and "Important Notice before Purchase" sections then.

>>8621142
Nah I actually love it when people do that, seeing improvement over time is really inspiring to me.

I might do a daily_lolita post too, I'd love to see that comm revived. I don't post any lolita stuff on facebook because I only have a personal account that I use for non-lolita stuff, and the idea of making a second FB account just for closet of frills is not enticing to me whatsoever.

>>8621249
You're a cunt, anon. Anyone would feel shitty over such a secret.

>>8620813
It's getting so old.

>>8621109
I feel you anon, I still don't have a blog or even tumblr because I am pure lazy, but also people nowadays aren't used to anythibg more than pressing 'like'. Back then people actually liked sharing because the audience would respond not only with appreciation, also comments and ideas of their own. Now with instagram tumblr etc nobody gets into discussions, it's all 'u so pretty' kind of surface level interaction.

I wish these boards were faster ..

>>8621284
It's referring to another secret. It's the Brazillian woman that went butthurt over a chlamydiachan secret (which for whatever reason she thinks is done by our comm). Rosalynn has every right to be mad right now.

Does anyone else hate the phrase "dream dress". It's just grinds my gears the wrong way. i don't dream about this shit, they're just clothes. I really want some dresses more badly than others.
Then it also gets used every time someone wants a dress even a little bit, rather reserve it for a special rare dress.

I don't know maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way, but it does bother me.

>>8621311
dream dress for me just refers to a dress I love and covet and want badly. It's not an obsession or something i dream about. It's just an expression.

>>8621311
Probably just you, anon. The phrase dream dress isn't necessarily meant to be taken literally; like "dream home" or "dream job," it's just the thing in that category that you covet/want the most.
I think it's silly when people post their whole wishlist saying "these are my dream dresses!!" but other than that, I'm fine with the phrase.

>>8621311
>rather reserve it for a special rare dress.
the term for that tends to be "holy grail" now, i think.
like for me, it tends to go normal dress >>> dream dresses >>>>> holy grails

>>8621311
I hate how people just say "dream dress" when they mean "something on my wtb list". It becomes very apparent when your "dream dresses" are ordered by preference, are more than half a dozen and as soon as you get a "dream dress" it's replaced with one or more new ones.

how does /cgl/ feel about non print replicas?
I'm tempted to get a claudia.

>>8620805
I'm also kinda sad about this change, but I get the feeling that more Lolitas recently want to bring back the good old times. Of course you can't bring it comepletely back, but every little step, like getting more active again in egl and daily lolita, makes me happy. It will need some work, but for me I really want to bring back that old feeling when I started with Lolita and I try to surround myself more with Lolitas who want this too.

>>8621344
Prepare to be disappointed. Replicas are notoriously worse in quality and that's what non-print items are all about.

>>8621298
Don't we all

>>8621271
Mon-Wed of this coming week are national holidays in Japan

>>8621517
>diff anon
oh wait, if that's the case does it mean dolly cat could take longer to ship too??

>>8621311
Not really. I mean, my version of a dream dress is that you're willing to drop money almost immediately to get that dress. It's dumb when someone posts a dream dress and then complain that it's too expensive when it's selling at market value or say that theyre not really looking for them.

so i was sent a wrong item, and i'm trying to return it back to the seller so i can get the item i bought or at least get a refund, but online usps is saying their address is a non-deliverable address so i can't print postage. i'm super confused and don't know what to do, and this is all happening during the worst possible timing for me and my family. i'm going out of my way to my local post office soon to try and deal with this, but i'm 99% certain they're going to say the same thing, and then i won't know what to do... has anyone else had non-deliverable address issues when returning items?

>>8621109
I'm dealing with a real-life stalker, so FB's insistence on a phone number and real name is just so creepy for me. Too many articles of victims being found and harmed through there, and at the very least it enables easier access even after I've changed so much information to try and get away.

Ah yes. I remember the days where it was about monthly layout changes, domain hoarding and making little cliques by hand. The cliques got replaced by official fan thingies that typically had no work at all. In the time to follow, it has only gotten worse with the laziness.

>>8621188
PPFT. I still read ONTD it is still really active. Just very angry-black-tumblr most of the time.

>>8621311
Yeah, just you. I used to say dream doll all the time, and if there was a holy grail bjd I really wanted, well, sometimes I could actually dream about them and that was how I knew I really wanted it. Then, the hunt would just turn obsessive.

Hiya gulls! I'm currently in the process of making a lolita themed video game. I was wondering if there was any interest and if there is, what sorts of things you might like to see.

I want to make it for people who love the fashion as much as I do, so I'm planning to include jokes, references, and easter eggs that only a lolita would understand. I even toyed with making Mr. Yan a villain, but thought that might be a bit too literal, plus he might sue me for libel lol. Thanks a bunch!

>>8621669
If it's like an RPG you should totally have little horde opponents wearing yan's ugly hat. Or venuses that throw weeb beams and ita-attacks at you.

>>8621686

I am making it in RPG maker vx ace but I was gonna make it less about fighting enemies and more about solving puzzles. If I was to use the fighting system they provide I'd need to get custom enemies that would be lolita themed (like the ones you suggested) and tbh I lack the artistic ability to make them and the money to commission them XD

>>8621669
What genre is it? I'd like to give advice, but it really depends on that to me!

>>8621695
>xD
>le epic lolita memes only lolis will get guiz
>doesn't seem to even know what their game is about other than lolita puzzles
I'm sorry but I'm going to have to say that i already don't support your cause.
You do you, but try to take concrit and suggestions along the way

>>8621311
I've even heard this term used for normal fag clothing. It's really not a big deal. It's just a way of saying it's a dress someone really, really wants above other pieces.

>>8621750

I mean in the post I made I explicitly asked for suggestions but lol wut is reading amirite?

Also I didn't say they were lolita puzzles, that's what some of the gameplay would be focused on in lieu of fighting enemies.
I do have an idea of what it would be about since you didn't bother to ask.

>player starts out at an Academy for learning about lolita fashion
>the founder of the Academy is named Momoko cuz obvs Kamikaze Girls reference
>The Academy has her original diaries as the foundation for how to teach the fashion
>Diaries get stolen
>Player is sent to 3 other academies (one focusing on each of the main substyles) where you gather information and followers along the way

I've got more in my notes if you've got any questions or concerns

>>8621784
This might be a dumb question, but where are you getting the art if you can't make or commission it?

>>8621731

It'd be kinda adventure-ish style with problem solving. As I said, I don't have any artistic abilities to make lolita specific enemies so there's not gonna be much fighting.

>>8621795

RPG maker has resources built into it and a lot of people who make their own don't mind if you use theirs as long as you give credit which I obviously would.

>>8621271

I guess the moral of the story is even if the rules say so, it doesn't hurt to try otherwise.

I got a dream dress either way since it was a BIN so I'm pretty happy about that.

>>8621669
...this doesn't sound fun at all, tbh. Sorry anon, but this idea screams tryhard.

>>8621802
Oh okay, makes sense if the community provides some. I figured it included resources, it was just that various lolita styles seemed so specific. Good luck with your game.

>>8621821

Thanks! As I said, I'm open to suggestions and advice and have no qualms about answering questions.

Are there any visual novels/dating sims where you either play as a lolita or one of the love interests is a lolita?

>>8621271
Not that anon but they also say they won't order from online sites with a shopping cart on those days but they have for me

>>8621517
Ugh this means waiting longer to hear from Meta about little Squirrel. Did anyone else email them and/or heard back?

Anons, what do you do if you see a dream dress on auctions with no proof pics but the seller has excellent feedback (500+ positive)? Would you risk it?

>>8621695
Using the RPG maker for a game that focuses on aesthetic such as Lolita and you have no artistic skill neither money to commission, is a fucking bad idea. RPG maker games are alway top down view with small sprites, which us pretty much the worst option if you want to represent a certain fashion. You could compensate that a bit with bigger facesets but without anyone to draw it, well... Good luck on maling an ita game

>>8621669
I might be interested, assuming you have a solid, interesting story in mind. Good graphics/art are a huge bonus, too; I don't expect to see mind-blowing masterpieces but I think the game should be aesthetically pleasing to some extent, considering the subject.
And I'm pretty sure you can go with the idea of making a Mr. Yan-esque villain without worrying too much about being sued, as long as you don't use his image and name explicitly. Parodies are perfectly legal, after all.

>>8622267
Ask for photos. Couldn't hurt, right?
>but if they had photos they'd post them
It's more to see how they react to your request. I've done this before and they've flat-out defensively deny me so I stayed far away.

Is this even the right thread?
I just got Nameless Poem and I need some help coording it. I'm usually ott sweet.

>>8622316
you're looking for the coord thread. I own it and I match it with black platform heals, black tights and a black hat or my AB bat headdress. just keep it simple and don't go OTT with this dress

>>8621669
Make Mr Yan the character in charge of the item shop.
So on completion of each puzzle you get a piece of a brand set so at the end of the stage the character has complete matched coord?

Why are peignoirs so hated? I love mines to death because I can easily wear it in the summer with simple coords but why does everyone in general hate the way they look? Is it because most people don't know how to coord with them?

>>8621669
you could do it like a parody of a efamous lolita's life
>opening cutscene "My name is Venus and I am a living doll! My one dream is to be a namba wan dolly aidoru in glorious nippon!"
>bid your mother goodbye as you leave her, your only companion, to set of on your journey towards stardom as a kawaii aidoru
>complete quests to get dolly dresses, multicoloured wigs, circle lenses and kawaii japanese candy
>have to collect a certain level of kawaii points and dolly dresses to be able to progress through the first challenge, which is the bodyline modelling contest
>Your attacks include kawaii poses, kawaii noises (uguuuu, kyuun, ano, etc.), libel against the yandyman, and the most powerful attack: LET'S BAKE CUPPYCAKES
>you can use your fangelics to defend you also (fangelic shield?) and to stun/troll your opponent
>To win the game you have to win the heart of a true nipponese man and obtain that juicy spouse visa
>Good end: You live in Japan as an internet 'sensation', and continue to fuel your delusional dreams that you're an aidoru as you marry your husbando and live as a gaijin in japan
>Bad end: Mr Yan makes you his wife and you end up in China, not glorious nippon paradise like you wanted. You are chained to the waifu couch for all eternity.
>True end: After defeating the evil Mr Yan and getting married, you wake up and it was all a crazy dream. You're Venus, a normal dutch girl who lives with her mother. Your wardrobe is filled with normal clothes and there isn't a hint of weebishness in your house. As you leave the house for school the camera pans back to your open laptop, where a youtube page opens itself and begins to play. It's kawaii Venus chained to a chair, and Mr Yan's laughter can be heard from off camera. She's wearing his hat. The screen goes black.

I think I've played a few too many horror rpgs for this.... Sorry about the weird tangent I took it down, I just wondered what a venus-inspired game would be like.

>>8622451

>>8622451
I want it

Let me fund this

>>8622451
I would play the shit out of this.

Anyone have any opinions on coording black and brown? I know navy x black is frowned apon, but wanted to know if it was the same for brown x black.
Does anyone have any good coord pics for black x brown?

>>8622478
ew

>>8622478
no, this is not an ok thing. next to black brown just looks like it is dirty.

>>8622478
Here's something featuring brown and black, though it seems unbalanced.
If you want to use those two colors together you should use a light brown, there are a lot of examples in mainstream fashion, just google it.

Why do people always talk about how many times they've worn their dresses and stains on them when they're selling? Do they ever wash their clothes?!

>>8622441
>Is it because most people don't know how to coord with them?
Mainly this, but I also just think that it looks like wearing pajamas outside so I don't personally like them even when they're decently coordinated. If someone actually made a sheer overdress specifically for lolita it might look better, but most peignoirs are cheap poly-chiffon with ugly lingerie lace that doesn't go well with the dresses.

>>8621120
Why not here?

>>8622506
The number of times worn is to give an idea of how "worn out" an item is, if something has only been worn once or twice it is probably not stretched out or damaged. If there are stains of any kind, you're obligated to mention them.

Personally in my listings I always mention that the item has been cleaned as well, indicating that any stains are set in - usually they are small/barely noticeable - I am not a messy person, I buy a lot of used/damaged items are clean them up as much as possible such as reducing stains but you can usually not get the stain completely out.

It's more of a CYA thing - if you say the item is "worn" and poi t out flaws, you can't get some asshole doing a PayPal charge back for "unlisted damages, not as described"

>>8622506
How often you wear a dress can affect its condition - A brand new dress that was tried on once will be in a much better condition than a secondhand (or third hand, etc.) dress that was worn many times.
As for stains, some are more difficult to remove than others and not every person knows how to get rid of them. Not the most pleasant thing in the world, but it's better that sellers are honest about any and every damage that a dress might have than not.

>>8622513
I feel like here would never work.
It's too anonymous, which I know is the point, but people still like to have friends in the community.
Also here doesn't really have rules of conduct and is a little too ruthless which will lead to many girls having their feelings hurt

>>8622478
I made a brownxblack coord once and anons were really great about helping me make it work! Pic related was the coord and this was that only good response I got after I posted the finished version hah.

"Personally Im not a big fan of black and brown but you managed to make a nice coord Anon, that said I can tell what you're going for and Im afraid the hair accesory is too casual for the overall coord and the wig is too fancy." - https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/S8367674#p8369505

Overall though, it's really hard to make it work. You need to be really careful and know how to balance your colors. It just work with this particularly because the skirt had black lace and the tights helped contrast and hilight the crown theme I was going for. This coord obviously isn't even that great but I hope it's a helpful example!

>>8622441
They're oldfags afraid of change.

>>8622530
Useless collage, let's see how it looked in real life. No offense but it probably didn't look very good.

How long does it usually take for things to reach AP from Tenso and update?
It's been 6 days now with no update to my Tenso page, and shipping within Japan, especially Tokyo, is usually so fast.

has anyone ever successfully backed out of a purchase from CT and if so how did you do it? non-refundable deposit?? i've suddenly found myself in a tight spot and could really use the money i put down for horror garden. i feel terrible, but i'd be willing to pay her a non-refundable deposit even if i backed out so i'm wondering...

>>8622593
Advertise it in a sales comm. Someone else can take your spot, especially for such a highly anticipated release.

>>8622593
hey anon, I'll take your spot- drop a throwaway email?

>>8622503
Thanks anon. It's just that I bought the brown x black version of Nightmare Factory. So I was just trying to think of how to coord it.

>pic related

>>8622577
Sometimes they forget to add your tenso number to the package, email the details to tenso.

>>8622530
Thanks anon! This is the kind of thing I was looking for.

Heads up, Antique Beast is opening up on the 22nd.

>>8622630
That print looks georgeous anon.

>>8622603
In the time I posted that and now I thankfully managed to come up with a solution when it came to the money being tight, and I still really want Horror Garden myself... but if I have to give it up again in the future I'll definitely leave a throwaway email for you, anon. Thank you for offering

>>8622634
Thanks, anon. I checked the tracking AP sent me, and supposedly it was delivered to Tenso on the 15th. Just sent a message to Tenso, so I hope it all works out okay. I have like $300 worth of sale stuff in that package.

>>8622665
Fuck. I just realized there's a number missing from my Tenso account number on the AP email. I don't know how that happened since I copy and pasted everything, but I really hope I'm not screwed.

>>8622636
Here's also a post from r/femalefashionadvice on how to combine brown and black.

reddit.com/r/femalefashionadvice/comments/26nw8t/black_brown_inspo_and_thoughts/

>>8622659
no prob anon, I'm glad it worked out!

>>8620313
Holy shit that is ugly. I need it.

>>8622708
>lol meta you so ugly meme
There's nothing "meta ugly" about that series.

>>8621311
Many of my Dream Dresses are dresses I didn't originally like, but then I had a dream about it and couldn't let it go (ex. Misty Sky)

I've actually had a shit ton of dreams where I am in a place filled with lolita shops, or in an AP shop (even tho I don't like their stuff that much). My thirst is real.

>>8620823
I don't get why she did it either, I mean if you hate drama and bullying, don't create more drama and call names without explanation. It's just the same as the secrets she much despites. I mean even when that girl did something, this is not a solution at all.

>>8621784
Maybe you could team up with people who have useful skills and want to make this game a reality. Dreaming Mary, for example, has a small team and short gameplay but is interesting and audio-visually pleasing. Or Painted Heart, it has a nice story and varied graphics.

>>8622630
How did you buy this is reservations aren't open yet?

>>8622764
Not that anon but maybe a SS. Baby opens their reservation Friday to Sunday in-store and through the phone first before opening it online. I actually had mine ordered a week before reservations were opened because of an event they threw

>>8622630
I'd say that's more of a fade purple than brown.

>>8622773
I think blackxbrown is one of the colorways of that print though.

>>8620805
Baby releases oldschool looking dresses, and meta too.

You don't have to be part of the online fame party.
Just stay away from CoF and etc. This efame is happening not only with Lolita, is many things and it gets so cringeworthy I hope it dies soon.

I've never bought an AP release /from/ AP before, all my stuff has been secondhand. I don't want to pay aftermarket prices on what I'm sure is going to be a bloodbath of a sale for Horror Garden, so wat do? I keep seeing "Tenso" being thrown around, is it a shopping service? Does it work at all like a taobao service? I know this is a super fucking stupid question but I'm stuck on mobile because of some unfortunate circumstances and my site browsing capabilities are kinda limited.

Would I be taking my life into my own hands if I tried to order it myself without a shopping service?

why this hurts so much...?

>>8621076
In fb there is no very well organized ways to leave feedback if you don't use LM, I believe

>>8622865
its shit
shit, right?

>>8622865
i will say this version of shoop on her somehow has the most uncanny valley vibes.

>>8622513
Salt

You don't know who can take your photos, no control of who is following you, observing you. Same problem wit Tumblr

>>8622863
you're kinda late for a shopping service now, I bet all the spots are filled by now for Horror Garden. but to give you answers to your questions: Tenso is like a middleman for AP. you sign up for Tenso, get a japanse tenso adress, you order from AP directly, but instead of your own adress, you use your Tenso adress and Tenso ships the package to you. they also do other shopping stuff I believe though. your best bet is going with an instore shopping service, online is even for the Japanese hell. but as I said you're kinda late, so your chances of finding the right ss now are slim.

>>8622863
Anon, your phone doesn't limit you from using Google, but I'll tell you anyway.

Tenso is a forwarding service. you get an addresa in japan. Register in AP, pay with credit card, ap sends to tenso, tenso sends to you.
I have survived blood baths better alone than with ss. You just need to be patient and suck it up if you fail.

So now Chlamydia chan is using btb too for self reassurance

>>8622888

I only found out about the print today so tbh I'm not surprised that I might have to brave the bloodbath on my own. Thanks for the info though!

>>8622478
Haven't seen much black x brown in lolita, but I've seen it work incredibly well in steampunk, might be worth a look for inspiration?

>>8622478
There was a black and brown plaid coordinate on CoF recently and it looked nice, I don't remember who it was though

Does anyone own this hat? I really like the shape and the design but I'm afraid it will be to small and I'll end up looking all weird instead of like a victorian lady.

>>8622647
thanks! It was actually my bfs suggestion to go with black versus my initial want of sax. Am not disappoint.

>>8622675
oh thanks this is hella sweet!

>>8622736
Dude I spent way too much time thinking about lolita, and having dreams like that. I feel you. I just want all the brand to live on my body haha.

>>8622764
In store SS, which became available on the 18th

This dress has red pandas in it. So cute but I dont like the style of the jsks.
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?spm=a1z5f.7632052.0.0&id=522127424771

>>8621829
I think you're going to have a tough time finding lolita relevant art for RPG maker, whilst there is lots of cute free sprites, lolita is very specific. Report back though when you have something to show us and we'll try to be helpful.
Please also lurk more, too much 'gonna' etc

>>8621857
I'm assuming you already checked out the cute games thread and saw things like LINE and other avatar/shop building games, but I do know that a lot of dating sims have lolita/maid 'styled' love interests. Check out gothic and horror styled eroge if R18 is okay?

>>8621328
This. Over the past year or so the DD threads have just become general 'hunt for my wishlist for me!' threads and I feel like the level of expectation is reaching really selfish levels, even if it is answered with some great generosity.

I miss when DD threads were just that, DD threads.

>>8622346
Is that you?
I've been admiring that coord.
Thanks anon, Ill look for it.

>http://www.babyssb.co.jp/info2/teaparty2015_content/

Is anyone going to wake up early / stay up to watch this?

>trying to find a cutesy Halloween mask to match Gardenberries
>wanted to find a bunny inspired mask
>they're all either cheap looking or bondage tier bad
>found only one I liked
>it's $250 for a thin 3D print mask
>nope.jpg

It's been such a letdown. The only thing I can think to do is to go to Michael's and buy a regular black masquerade mask and maybe cut out some of the details similar to the dress and paste them on it. It doesn't look like I'm going to be getting the bunny theme I wanted.
Artists wants RIDICULOUS prices for masks.

>>8623183

This.

This is also why I resent the Hospitality Doll fiasco so much. Nothing against her, but goddamn, it definitely changed the attitude other anons have now about dream dresses.

>>8623438
Deets? I knew there was an anon who desperately wanted that set, but I don't look at the DD thread much so I guess I missed the fiasco part.

>>8623436
Why not make your own mask, anon? Buy a normal felt or fabric masquerade mask and attach ears using matching fabric, then put little flowers, berries or lace over the seams to cover them.

>>8623468
With my luck it'll look like shit, unfortunately. I was thinking maybe a lace mask instead.

>>8623427
>http://www.babyssb.co.jp/info2/teaparty2015_content/
I defs am, I'll be just finishing work when it comes on but nothing exciting happens at the beginning (hopefully). God, I hope they show off new prints...

>more ballet prints please baby

>>8623456
For some reason people got ungodly attached to her and brought her up constantly/kissed her ass. She ended up getting the set and respectfully stepped aside, but since then it seems like everyone has taken the attitude of "If I sound desperate and post a wtb then anyone will do anything for me".

>>8623427
Nah. It'll be nearly 3am in my time before it even starts and I have to get up for work at 6:45am. So skipping it. Will see if I can watch it later.

>>8622630
That pumpkin screaming because of the chocolate on him is life.

>>8623488
I like that people are willing to help out for dresses though. Someone helped me out with a dress I was looking for close to a year. I just don't like it when people complain that it's too expensive when it is going for resell value or when they aren't really looking to buy.

>>8623507
Yeah, I like that too, but that doesn't seem to be the trend anymore. HD did it right, honestly; she posted one dress and that was it, and people liked her enough to offer to search and stuff, but now people post lists 10-dresses long and claim that each one is their "dream dress". It's like everyone saw how much people offered to help her and just assumed that's all they had to do; post everything and someone will throw it their way out of pity or attachment or something.

The DD thread is just an extended WTB now. I don't think it's HD's fault, but everyone's trying to get what she had and it's obnoxious.

>>8623427
if i'm still up i will, i really want to see if they'll have any new prints

So, I was browsing closet child and went to the BABY section.
First thing I see is pic-related.

Both BABY and AP have used this fugly fabric (or some that looks too similar to me) and I just wonder how anyone likes this.
I'll post the AP piece the following post.

How common is it for items to come with defects when ordered directly from brand? I just got a dress with about three broken zipper teeth.

>>8623648

>>8623648
Idk about the ap dress but the baby one looks like a play in Cher's outfit in Clueless... In which case I need it lol

>>8623648
ngl I kinda want this for a Cher Horowitz-inspired coord

>>8623661
The outfit you posted looks a lot better than the BABY 'version.'
The red in the suit is just too much for me to go with the yellow.

>>8623662
I honestly am not even sure of any other reasons why anyone would buy that set. Glad I'm not the only one who thought of Cher.

>>8623648
As if the yellow, white lace and pattern weren't enough, they had to add red. Would've been cute and Cher-like like other anons said if Baby would've toned it down.

>>8623665
I kinda like the red in it plus the structure is cuter than the movie costume. I would legit wear this.... Like I've never bought from closet child but I'm thinking about figuring it out just to get this set.

>>8623698
They have a guide on their site that tells you step by step how to do it.

>>8623661
>>8623662
Man I loved these sets when I saw that movie. At that time in my life that was some clothing I wanted more than anything. Along with OTK socks to match.

>>8623699
found it, thanks.

>>8623234
haha, yes that's me. thank you. I hope you'll find some nice items to go with the dress, the dress is lovely

>>8623043
are there any measurements? that might help

>>8623653
I've never heard of that. Usually it's smaller stuff like loose threads or snags. A broken zipper pretty much renders the whole thing unwearable, so you should see if you can exchange it.

>>8623474
>it'll look like shit
... gee. I wonder why artists want you to pay them money--OH RIGHT. SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE SHIT.

>>8623819
Well there's a difference between a $50-$100 mask and a $250+ mask made of thin plastic anon.
Calm down.

>>8622865
Found this in Larme 18.

>>8623919
lmao since 'larme-kei' is 'what is popular/ shown in larme magazine', does that mean larme-kei is btssb now?

>>8620676
That's why you never plan meets on big days of the year. Most people will already have plans.

>>8620676
Agreeing with the anon above me.

Halloween is the WORST time of year to plan meetups, especially if the comm demographic is 20 and above. Everyone has already got other plans to do whatever. A Halloween meetup would be best a couple weeks in advance, or have a "fall" themed meetup in November.

>>8622865
this sounds probably weird but she looks like her head is really small in comparison to the dress.

>>8623100
I thought it was cute too, but the print looks really washed out though.

>>8623922
tbh larme-kei is a fucking mess

>>8623922
I'm seriously wondering this now too. Larme-kei features BtssB. Larme-kei confirmed?

>BTSSB runs ads featuring known lolcow
>seagulls focus on what larme-kei is/is not

the times they have a-changed

>>8623922
It's an ad which just means there's crossover interest among people who read the magazine.

>>8624016
Kota's old news. BORING.

>>8624020
It doesn't look like an add. It looks like they want to call Lolita, Larme.

I wish they kept their nymphete hands away from Lolita

>>8624016

Good.

It was always annoying seeing three same threads on the front page of cgl, or asking for scans of new burando releases and being met with "but lolcow isn't in those pages". Just give me burando, doofus, what do I care what about lolcow.

So very, very happy with cgl's current rules, janitor and all.

What is up with Baby's sudden obsession with Kota?? They even put her as the finale for their fashion show tonight.
And since when was she into lolita?

>>8624082
Kota has never been lolita even. I think she even mentioned how she disliked it. She's always gone for Vivienne Westwood and Milk, but knockoffs and is a notorious replica taobao shopper. She's never had money to be a lolita before, hence her minimalist style. Even now, the stuff she wears outside modeling is either given to her or rather basic.

Fashion show thoughts? That bookshelf print was absolutely hideous.
I liked that pinkish dress with the big star print but it was hard to see the details.

>>8624082
She's been into lolita since she was like 3 and watched the animes on dvd and became obsessed with Japan durr

I hope you get my sarcasm

>>8624082
You don't have to be into a certain fashion yourself to model for a brand. Also IW featured her a bunch of times before so this isn't really new.
>secretly hoping her desperate has-been sister will jump on the lolita train for more Japan fame
>can you imagine the hilarity

>>8624092
I wanna buy the crossbow

>>8624092
the nurse/medical store one was adorable. That lil hat! Fuck! And the one with that little red riding hood feel omg

>>8624092
I really want better looks at the apothecary/nurse print cause hot damn
Also hoping it comes in a JSK

>>8624103
SAME ANON
that little box bag holy crap I need so bad

>>8624105
They should've had Misako model that

>>8624105
I loved looking at all the audience members to be honest. It's nice to see how it gets worn over there for a brand event.

>>8624109
I reckon, she could've shown off a new release rather something that was on reservation already.

>also that ita in red with no headpiece smh
>surprisingly not that many veils

>>8624092

The bookshelf print had potential, but yeah, seeing the way it sat on the dress was iffy. Nice illustrations though.

My favorite was the chocolate dipped strawberries print, if there isn't an ivory color way I'm going to be all over the pink one.

According to chibi, they're releasing Favourite Ribbon, but in a pinkxbrown colourway.. urgh no thanks

Tempted to get La Robe vert blue ... im a sucker for gold and navy but I dont dress in OTT

>>8623436
I'm extremely jelly you own Gardenberries in black, hope you find what you're looking for for your coord!

>>8624122
I wish they at least didn't add the microdot pattern on top of the logo print on the ribbon. It's so unreadable and busy.

>>8624135
Wonder if they'll release different colourways of it? Although if the brown is consistent.. meh

>>8624088
Just curious. How do you know how she gets her things?

I got an e-mail from Antique Beast.
Will they accept orders on the 22nd again? I didn't fully understand it.

>>8624158
Yes.

>>8624158
They're opening the store on the 22/9. Not sure how long the store is open for though. A new headdress and skirt will be added to the store.

>>8623436
This what you're going for, except not paper?

Question about all these new BTSSB/AATP releases, are they all assumed to come out this year or this year extending into the next?
>tfw trying to budget for three likely expensive as hell dresses at once

>>8624174
God I hope not, or I'll be in the same position as you anon.

>so much for saving up for a trip overseas

>>8624082
She did wear lolita dresses but they were all shortened. She has some photos floating around where she's wearing old AP which had clearly been taken up to be mid thigh on her

>>8623812
It's meta, I pretty much immediately took photos and asked for a refund.

It's just upsetting. Thankfully I have another coord ready. But three obvious zip pulls are ridiculous.

>>8623812
There were loose threads as well.
>sage
It's just so upsetting.

>>8624122
I wish they would rerelease it in other colors, I think this one does not look great at all.... I don't know if it is just me but does the ribbon look smaller?

Lief is opening reservations for Sacred Night Septh 25th.

Anybody going for it? I live in the tropics, this was one of my dream dresses that I never got (because tropical weather), but I may cave and get it in ivory all the same. Too bad the headwear does not come in ivory.

So someone on my FB linked this dress. I know it's F+F, but I'm curious what cgl thinks of that shoulder chain. New trend?

Bless Meta's soul!
I sent them an inquiry via email about ordering the JSK because it sold out, and they got one for me! So excited!

>>8624269
this is why I love meta, they have such great customer service

>>8624152
If you look up any old drama on her, there's plenty of threads picking apart her photos and some of her coords. It's practically a sport regarding Kota.

She'd buy knock-off Chanel, Vivienne Westwood, etc. and people would find the replicas on Taobao. The differences between the replica and genuine piece would be pretty obvious. Just remember: If Dakota were a lolita, she'd buy replicas.

>>8624092
Same. I like that one with the star print and I guess what looks like their winter print too with the snowflakes

>>8624082
I guess because 1. she is famous and 2. she has a cute doll-like face, with her blonde hair and blue eyes

This release is absolutely stunning, but, er, that's a penis.

>>8624269
I got a response today too, I wanted the mini skirt in green, unfortunately for me their stock got so rekt that I'm on the waitlist. Pray for me anons.

Since I wanted the bag too, they were like "the bag is in stock, just go buy it. Sorry meta but I ain't paying full EMS twice.

>>8624329
They'll combine orders if you end up getting the skirt, anon. They combined my jsk with the headdress and socks I had bought.

>>8624326
... Why
Why you had to ruin my new dream dress...?
>Can't unsee now

>>8624356
I'm sorry anon. It's not exactly my style, but if it were, I'd wear it with pride anyway. I suggest you do the same.
But then I'm the type of person to want cherish my juicy cherry for the lulz, so take my judgement with a grain of salt!

>>8624339
That may be but I don't know if I want to buy the squirrel bag if I don't get the skirt lol.

just wanted to share this

this set made the model look huge tbh

>>8624356
Better now than later somebody telling you while looking at your own tea party photos.

>>8624326
I think this print is just okay. I have a feeling people like it because of the name.
>~Death Angel~

What do you think of navy and lavender together?
would they work?

>>8624927
As long as the coord is balanced, I don't see why not. AatP's Midsummer Night comes in navy/lavender and it's beautiful.

Is it too much to ask for a lolita parody of the Peaky Blinders called the Peaky Bloomers?

>>8623427
I had a friend snapchat me the highlights so I saw it first thing when I woke up
>best friend ever

>>8624927
That's my fav colour combo in lolita.

>>8622865
Is that dakota?

>>8624658
Is that Venus?
It kind of looks like the back is missing something, those buttons are just floating there. Maybe it was supposed to have one of those strap things on the back like vests often have to cinch the waist, and the model didn't fit it like that so they took it off for the show. IIRC Venus is kind of rectangle or apple-shaped, but I'm not sure if that's her.

>>8625026
No it's a Japanese girl.

Maybe I missed it the last thread or something, but when is Horror Garden supposed to go on sale? I've never dealt with AP's release schedule before, I'm more of an AAtP kind of girl. I know I probably sound like a fucking idiot or something, but I can't find anything on their site.

>>8624329
Why don't you just use Tenso? cheaper airmail

Achinami posted a couple fashion show pics on her IG
>https://instagram.com/achinami/

I liked that gothic dinner table print, hope some better photos surface.

>>8625117
Hasn't been released yet. Looking like it would be that same weekend at their Halloween tea party

How come when some lolitas take OOTD pictures, they stand in the middle of their rooms on a piece of paper? What's with that?

>>8625191
paper is probably to keep their floors clean?

>>8625191
Probably to protect the carpet from their dirty shoes.

>>8625122
is the difference worth the fees?

new thread >>8625213

>>8622945
Elaborate >>8623046

>>8624237
How do you order from them again because this is one print I want of them.

>>8625191
Depending on who it is and where they live it might be part of their culture to not wear shoes in the house. Or they are living in a rented home and it to keep the floor/carpet clean.

Newbie incoming, I'm trying to pick a few pieces to put together my first coord. The skirt I chose is 65cm long tho and I'm having a bit of trouble finding a suitable petticoat for it that doesn't cost me too much, as I'm only giving my first try at lolita and I'm a bit afraid of not liking it and having spent too much money for nothing.
Any recommendations? I'm not expecting something great for ultra cheap but a middle ground would be nice. So far the ones I've seen for an affordable price are all short. Thank you!

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