/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>bought a pair of shoes off eBay
>shipped without tracking
>didn't arrive within estimated time frame, opened dispute
>won, receive refund
>shoes arrive day later
>haven't contacted seller yet

Though to be fair, the seller wasn't particularly responsive or cooperative during the process either. All their replies were basically "trust us we're not scammers!"

>>8547245
>mfw I'm trying to sell some shoes on eBay and stuff like this scares the hell out of me

Anon, don't be a dick. Usually when people ship without tracking, it's to save both of you money. If it's from outside your country, which I'm assuming it is, that was definitely the case. Just pay it up. Arriving a day late is no excuse to basically steal from them.

A girl in my comm posted about her dream dress up for auctions on her facebook.... I ended up bidding on it and winning it. The dress is rather obscure and rare, and all of her friends are on the hunt for it, so it's not like I can wear it out without being questioned.

Idk if I should sell the dress to her or something, or put it up on LM under a pseudo name.

>>8547266
Do you like the dress, or did you do it to be spiteful?

If you like the dress, wear it, then claim you've had it a while, but didn't want to rub her face in it. If you did it to be spiteful, stop being a petty bitch and sell the girl her damned dream dress.

>>8547245
>>8547255
Different anon, but this is why I never offer my items to international buyers when selling my items, whether in the lolita comm sales or on eBay. (I would give an exception for a friend who lives abroad, but that is the exception.) And even within the U.S., I'll put in tracking and signing as mandatory. That way PayPal has my back in case the buyer files a dispute. Sorry, non-U.S. buyers (especially the Canadians), but you're going to have to buy secondhand from people who do take that risk.

Not to mention international shipping is expensive and I really don't want to waste my time educating people who whine about shipping fees blowing up the overall cost.

>>8547239
Stole an iron gate skirt, nbd

>>8547299
Tell us something we don't know.

>>8547255
It arrived about a month late, the claim/dispute process just took forever because the seller barely understood English and kept repeating themselves over and over again. It would be too much of a hassle to contact them to set up another payment so unless they contact me about it, I'm pocketing that $35.

Sold a replica as a brand dress. Girl never found out, resold it at a marked up price a few months later, not my problem anymore.

>>8547266
sell it to her, but make her pay more than you did
win-win,
you give her the dress and don't appear like an asshole
while still getting the money you spent plus some extra

>>8547291
>is a canadian
I've even encountered people refusing to ship over the border. It blows.

>>8547291
But if the international buyer will pay for tracked shipping?

>>8547273
>Do you like the dress, or did you do it to be spiteful?

I did it because I liked the dress. I've had the dress for 2 years and I still haven't worn it out.

>>8547390
My max bid was 1.5x higher than hers, so I don't know if she'd be willing to pay that high of a price for it...

>>8547447
>says its her dream dress
>wont pay out the ass for it
It's not truly her dream dress.

>>8547340
what dress

>Bought an AP cape
>Pay and everything, then I realise that the seller has seemingly blocked me on Facebook
>Wait a week
>Still not here and I paid for first class sign for shipping
>Never gave me a tracking number
>Opened PayPal dispute, they returned the money within an hour
>cape arrives next day
>Try to find her everywhere - asking other people, apparently she's just gone - no one is in contact
>I got AP for free
>Feel really bad - I see it sitting in my wardrobe
>Donate the money I got back in the dispute - half to the Cat Shelter half to a Dementia charity

I still feel bad but I don't know what to do
If she is a gull and see's this, I am truly sorry

>>8547433
Shipping something tracked international from the US is a huge headache and insanely priced. I used to work for the post office, and basically if you're shipping an OP and want it tracked, it's around $65-80. Most people don't want to deal with the bullshit run-around that the US post will give them anyways because it's a terrible company (note: not government service, USPS is certainly a company that is just overseen by the government) that doesn't want to take responsibility for fucking anything.

>>8547464
A DOL replica of AP's Wonder Cookie OP with apron attached.

>>8547492
Holy fuck what idiot couldn't tell the difference?

>>8547492
Was this on Lolita UK Sales?

>>8547476
But that's pretty much the case with every other country as well. If I sell to the US I have fill out form, pay roughly the same and go to a specific post office, but if I didn't sell to the US I couldn't sell my stuff at all.

>>8547447
That's really not your fault if she wasn't willing to pay more than what you would did

>>8547504
It's not the same. If selling internationally you have to fill out a customs form regardless, but the forms for tracked are like a damn book and go so far as the post having to decide what hour the item will be delivered, so the wait for them to get all the info is an incredible hassle. The price for tracked US shipping is far higher than most countries for sure, because there literally is no cheaper option.

>>8547476
This is one of the biggest reasons I avoid overseas buyers unless absolutely necessary. My local USPS is run so incompetently. Standing in line usually takes 30 minutes AT THE VERY LEAST. If there's a line of 20 people? The USPS agent will still be like, "idgaf it's time for a smoke break" with no replacement, leaving all 20 people to wait for one service window. Most of the agents at my USPS don't even understand how to do anything more complex than selling stamps or shipping a domestic package, so I also often have to explain the international shipping process to them, how the customs form works, etc. It is not worth the headache unless the dress I'm selling is $250 at minimum.

>>8547474
Kind of her own fault for blocking you.. That seems sketchy on it's on.
If I dished out a bunch of cash for an item and the seller blocks me before it arrives, hell yeah I'd open a dispute. You can't even contact her lol.

>>8547527
Whoops forgot to remove my FC from another board, ignore that.

>>8547499
>>8547503
A girl in my comm. No one really liked her.

>>8547239
off topic but jfc whats the name of that jsk, I remember seeing it on IW's website when I was just getting into Lolita and loving it

>>8547577
Astronomical Clock

>>8547527
Forgot to add - seems like she didnt block me - she deleted her whole account, which is why I felt bad. Something bad may have happened in her life

>>8547522
I noticed on Etsy when you print out international labels through them they come with a tracking number. Also direct through the USPS website, "first class international" offers tracking for most destinations. About $6.50 for light items. Does anyone know if this tracking actually holds up as proof on paypal? I remember a long time ago it didn't for some dumb reason but perhaps things have changed.

International lolis scammed me three times in a few months before I had to stop international shipping for that shop altogether. I've never had a single "lost package" issue with my other shop despite having sold far more items.

>>8547582
Thanks so much anon

>>8547596
First class international certainly does not offer tracking at all, (you have to upgrade to GXE or EMS) only a customs number. It just gets printed the same on the label, but you can't actually use it on the website. However, printing first class off for domestic the tracking will always work.

>>8547643
It definitely does, as I've been using it but it only seems to be offered online. Here's tracking from a recent package, only cost $6.50 to go out first class. I remember a discussion a few years back about this tracking not holding up for Paypal claims so I'm curious about if they're valid proof now. The number looks just like a normal international tracking number so I don't see why not, but I'm a bit wary. It is indeed a huge price difference.

>>8547649
That is really strange, then; I worked for the post office for two years and if someone came up to us asking to add tracking to anything that wasn't EMS or GXE, we wouldn't even have the option. The systems at the post literally will not let that be put on at all, no matter what you did, but I know they have strange agreements with certain companies that allow them to get around regulations so that that shithole can make even more money. Amazon being the biggest one.

>>8547653
Word of advice, though; don't ever pay for tracking on first class domestic. You get it no matter what, even if you don't print online. It's the PID # on your receipt next to the item.

>>8547653
Yeah it seems to be somewhat recent. Definitely not offered in the office, but I know it's on the USPS website and Etsy does it as well.
Good to know about the domestic tracking!

>>8547299
Nope.jpg

>>8547255
Sellers need to get tracking, end of story. As far as I'm concerned it's to protect themselves and not much else.

>>8547457
nice logic homeslice

>>8547476
>bought some anime merch I really wanted from an US collector (I'm from the EU)
>seller does their best to give a tracking number and just generally helpful
>tracking isn't doing shit
>seller goes on a rant about how USPS always fucks up the tracking by not scanning

Really though what's the point of adding tracking as an option as a company when it takes 4 days for the first person to scan it.

>>8547786
It's so if it gets lost you get reimbursed by the shipping company I think?

My most shamefur experience would have to be getting super horny at a meet up for no apparent reason and having to rush off to the ladies to... fix it...

>>8547786
They probably gave you the customs number, which updates when an item enters a leaves a country, but that's about it. They always scan, it's how they know where it's going, since the machine spits out directions when it scans something, but unless you pay more for a different number, it won't upload all of the information where you can see it.

I've bought a few dresses which I know are other people in my comm's dream dresses, but I won them in auctions so honestly they have no reason to be salty. I always want the dress myself anyway, but sometimes I rub it in the face of the person if I find them annoying

>>8547794
Ah I see that makes more sense. I just wish international shipping wasn't such a hassle.

>>8547474
>get free brand
>wasnt your fault
>feels bad and donates to charity
You are the purest thing and nothing bad should happen to you

Father forgive me, for I have fucking sinned

>Ordered dress for girl in comm
>tempted to keep the bows on her dress for myself, she wouldn't notice until too late
>did not do it

>ordered brand item from overseas
>cost under $40
>no tracking
>never arrives, no communication from seller
>file claim, win money back
>item arrives
>she overcharged me grossly on shipping anyway
>keep item and never tell seller
>item doesn't even fit anyway but can't sell off so sitting in my closet forever

>>8548122
Aww thank you! I do try!

Unfortunately I still haven't worn it as I have no dress for it to go with as it's pink. My next goal is to make a sweet outfit around it (I usually stick with Classical)

>decide to get out of lolita (still into cosplay/jfash hence me still being here)
>sell last dress
>buyer seems super eager and excited, says its her first dress
>suddenly communication stops
>figure she got the dress and just stopped coming to that site maybe
>some months later
>severely beat up package arrives at my house
>its dress, unopened
>says delivery was refused
>still no contact with girl
>tried to refund money but paypal bounced it back?
>her screenname is very newb-loli-ish and only google result was that site, no visible email either
>dress is still sitting in the shipping box
>feels too guilty to sell again
I still feel weird about it even though its been a while. Maybe she was underage and her parents didn't like her shopping online or something? I don't know.

>>8548421
Damn, sounds like she got busted by her parents. They probably didn't want her getting into the fashion and she did it behind their backs or something.
Poor girl.

>>8548275
Couldn't you sell it in the bst thread?
Or did you get it from here?

>>8547291
>especially Canadians
Why don't people like shipping to us? Is it because of how expensive it is?

>>8547239
Two guys at the same time. Yeah. I went there.

>>8547266
And this is why if there's anything I want that I'm currently bidding on I don't post about it anywhere. Just in case someone might bid on it because of my post.

>>8548510
I could, I'm just paranoid, I didn't get it here

>>8548588
Yeah, you live in Canada but as far as shipping goes, you might as well live in Germany, costs the same. USPS is dumb

>>8547457
trufax

>>8547735
how is this bait?

I once coughed up a tonsil stone and flung it into the wig of a girl I was having problems with.

>>8547291
Won't be a problem if you ship it tracked, you always know where it is. I honestly don't really get this attitude, but then again I'm just a bitter European.

>>8550023
It's okay I'm bitter too
>people refusing to sell to Europe
>the prices for getting send anything outside of Europe
>watching Americans never pay import fees (or custom fees tbh I mix them up all the time)

At the last meetup I wore a diaper underneath my dress. no one would have noticed because it was under tights and bloomers anyway. I didnt mind it but it got kinda hot lol

>>8547447

If you hadn't bid, would she have won it? Were their no bids b/w her max and your 1.5x higher bid?

>>8550028
It's kinda both anon.
Nobody really gets hit by customs here and we don't have import fees for clothes/gifts afaik.
I'd be salty too. Euro shipping seems like a horror story.

>>8550417
Things going into Europe are the horror story, things going out of the US are the horror story. Each side has its perks, but they both have horror stories.

> I keep small items girls leave at my house or in my car unless they ask or I already know who it belongs to and will be seeing them again. If you don't care enough, I'm not hunting you down for a $5 hair clip.

>>8547239
I must confess

>I'm addicted to buy cheap shit on ebay
>Everytime someone ships any item without tracking number I contact seller after a month
>"Item never arrived"
>They always offers a refund or re-send the item, I always choose the money
>I never opened a claim on PayPal so my account isn't suspicious
>I'm buying with the same money for months

>>8550549
A girl did this to me once. Said the item never arrived

>didn't give her tracking number
>check # online
>told her item arrived three weeks ago

That shut her up. She said she found it after asking her roommate

>>8549874

NO

> Organizing a photoshoot meet
> Rules say that everyone must come in lolita, no other Japanese fashion
> Newbie to lolita but not to other Japanese fashions and pretty known in those communities wants to join but doesn't have a full coord yet
> Offer to lend her some lolita (just blouse+skirt)
> "You're so nice anon! <3"
> It's my Bodyline ageplay coord

Maybe not on topic, but I have a list of all my comm members I've caught on cgl by selfposting for concrit, posting in mail/bst threads, or by giving out their instagram and tumblr accounts. It's so many of them too. I don't know why everyone is so catty about /those terrible cgl types/ when most of you fucks post here.

>>8550644

oh fuck that shit so hard. i used to hang out with a girl who would bitch about /cgl/ on fb and her blog and shit, claiming she was too grown up/didn't have an interest/said it was all lies and "petty jealous people" but then i'd be sitting next to her in her house and she'd selfposting her own photos to start "good x coords" type threads lol

>>8550632
oh
my
god

>>8550593
Someone who understands the gravity of my actions.

>>8550644
Same.
I always catch people who I would NEVER expect posting stuff here. Even if it's just in response to a WTB request, I know who they are and it's so funny.

>>8550685
>tonsil Crypts

>>8548421
Ok, not cgl related but when I was into Ball jointed dolls I had a similar experience.
I did commissions where I would paint dolls and when I was first starting out a girl sent me some limited edition doll parts to paint. Her communication was great and it was the second time she had hired me.
so I have her items for about 3 weeks and I go to message her with some final photos for approval and confirm her address since she hadn't sent it to me and there was no return address on the box.
No reply so I try again a few days later, again nothing so I try finding ways to message her other places. After a month I open a problem transaction thread since the mods will flag her account and send her an email (which I didn't have).
I give up after a 6 weeks and the doll parts just sit in the box forgotten about.
Nearly a year later she messages me. I don't know whether to believe this story or not, but here's what she told me.
She had been kidnapped by human traffickers through the Internet some how (this was in 2007?) and had been separated from her family for months. Some how she was rescued and was reunited with her parents. She then had to undergo therapy or something and was completely banned from going online. She said she had finally convinced her mom to let her send me a message (while her mom was watching).
If the story is true I don't know how her mom ever let her give me her address, I actually think I had to ship it to an Aunt or something.

>>8550731
she probably got in trouble for buying things online with her parents' money or got caught sending nudes and got super grounded

>>8547447
Just wear the dress, or list it on LM under your real name and explain you bought it but never got around to wearing it. If she gets mad, then she's got the maturity of a 5 year old and that isn't your problem.

>>8550731
Oh shit. I am curious to know what dolls

I hate our comm leader

She's kind, yes, but she's a total *~special snowflake~*

She's fat, horribly so that I am concerned for her health. She had to modify brand to fit her. She's not ita, but there are multiple girls in the comm that dress a million times better than her.

I've had an arguement with her before, and a ton of girls sided with me on it, that she was being rude and unreasonable with me.

She makes it sound like that everyone is beneath her as well. I hope that she'll get out of lolita and focus on her son instead.

>>8547474
If you paid via paypal. You should still have her email address, technically you could contact her or just send the money as a gift payment to the same address.

> I had a girl buy something off me and claim it never arrived so I refunded her.
> 2 years later I buy something off her and recognize the name. Ask here if item ever arrived.
> replies "Oh anon it did arrive, it's been sitting in my closet all this time . I was going to give it to a friend, ahahah i'll ship it back to you"
> Invoice was sent via paypal....had my contact details the whole time >.>
> paid for my own f-ing item to be shipped back to me. At least she admitted it though.

>>8550364
I'm guessing this wasn't for medical reasons?

>>8550364
You finally did it huh anon

>>8550771
It was so long ago I hardly remember. It was a limited MNF head and one of those weird cracked skin monster arms?

>>8550644
Same. Only a fraction of them actually own up to it, most of them are like "cee gee ell? oh, I've never heard of it!" at meets.
I'm on to you, bitches.

>>8550583
Tbh I've had family try to keep things of mine from the mail and not tell me. Baby heart bag never came in, so filed dispute since no tracking or info. 2 days later my mother is using said bag, argue and have her repay the poor girl back after she refunded. I got my bag, but was pissed my mother always tried to take those.
It can happen, so glad I live alone now.

>>8550644
Not everyone on here is bad, he'll one of my first meets a girl flatout talked about cgl. I didn't know what it was then, but she definitely wasn't who you'd expect on here.

>>8551705
What the hell is wrong with your mother? I would literally go apeshit if anyone tried that with my stuff.

>>8551711
She really likes cute shit, and I did go nuts. The embarrassment in the whole situation pushed for me to leave sooner.

>>8550549
a-are you me?

>>8550644
I do the same haha

I posted about a girl in my comm on here once. We ended up becoming good friends later. She's still mad at the anon who judged her, not knowing it was me, but every time she brings it up she exaggerates what was said more and more. Girl I love you but I was right and you overcompensate and this just proves it.

I have big feet and wore too small lolita shoes a bunch of times for 4-5 hours at a time because they were all I had that looked cute. I ignored the discomfort and the damage on my big toe nails ended up causing an infection thats still healing ~6 months later. Havent been able to wear sandals all summer.

>>8547291
Why not, if it has tracking? It's an irrational fear, because you can win any dispute.
>>8547476
I've repeatedly bought OPs and JSKs from the USA and Priority Mail Intl fees came to less than $40. What are you smoking?
>>8547596
Please continue shipping to us, using Priority Mail Intl.
>>8549063
Only if you get a flat rate box. The shipping is slightly cheaper to Canada otherwise.

For people complaining about the price of international shipping, Priority Mail Intl to Canada for something which is 1.5 lbs is $33.67. For any OP/JSK selling for over $200, this shouldn't be a dealbreaker. Please sell to us Canadians.

>>8552397
>>8547291
>>8547423
please, please ship to us

>>8550731
Hoooly shit. Why are both of my hobbies full of either completely crazy people or people who have very interesting and unusual problems that cause them to miss transactions...?

>>8547474
You should send the money as a gift to her PP email. Just to clear your conscience. If you wish you can attach a note saying what happened.

>>8552397
There is a special canada/Mexico discount; those high prices given are for all other countries.

>>8551705
why did your mum open your mail?

I sold all my "babby's first dress" (which were kinda ita) and some Bodyline pieces on ebay and made profit. I didn't even scalp them myself, but those normalfags think "lolita is so expensive, what a great deal!". Would do it again.

>>8551827
Dude just buy shoes that fit, cuteness should never come at the cost your health

Not really cgl (though everyone I know that does this is part of one or the other) but I just can't buy being genderfluid.
I've read responses and heard explanations of people who say they are saying how it feels but just no. I simply refuse to believe one needs to switch between genders depending on how they feel, and that it isn't just being a special snowflake.

Being trans? Yeah I can see that, I understand why, I can sympathize. But genderfluid? No.

Not that I'd ever say this in public because I"d get murdered (socially) by everyone I know.

>>8550807
>>8552964
Okay sorry forgot to add - I did try that but I'm not sure if it's because I filed a complaint, but they wouldn't let me do that!

>>8553741
You know, that's just like being gay,trans or bi. You don't have to believe ir or even understand it. People will still feel how they feel and live their lives accordingly. It affects their life and not yours.

This sounds kinda hypocritical, since I cringe at trans women a lot (I think they will never be 100% women since they'll never have major female experiences). But I still think their can feel have they feel.

>>8553746
I was going to tear a chunk out of you for saying that about trans women, but no, you're actually being honest and I respect that, especially since you wouldn't make a deal of it.

>>8553741
Any genderfluid people I've known in person have used the term to describe themselves when they're trying to figure themselves out and what feels right for them. I think a lot of people (who are actually gf and not jumping on a trend) use the term for that, so they're not confining themselves within one gender and feel freer to explore what feels more comfortable and natural for them. Even if they feel better staying gf, there's no harm really. The only thing that bothers me are the gf people who use two different names, one masculine one feminine or whatever, and get pissy when you use the wrong name without letting you know. That's just stupid and almost looking for someone to misgender/name them.

>>8551827
This has got me scared now. I have this pair of bodyline shoes that are just barely too small like I can put my foot in them but they're not comfortable at all and my feet end up hurting really fast. I wear them anyways because I paid like $40 for them and they're my only black heels.

>>8550549
>mfw i have a bunch of cheap items coming in soon from various ebay sellers
>most did not give tracking number
>just might start doing this
I'd feel kind of bad though

>>8553752
I basically can completely understand feeling that you're in the wrong body and such. Like if I was suddenly turned into a man by some weird magic and everybody treated me like a man I would still know that I am a woman.
But on the other hand I think that part of being a woman is also experiencing growing up as a woman with social standards, seeing and thinking about how women across the world are and live. And periods, pregnancy as well as child birth are things that definitely are part of being a woman. I'm not only talking about actually being a mother. The decision to not have kids, losing the ability to have children or just periods in general are things that in some way or another women all around the globe have in common.

But on the other hand trans woman experience a life of a woman who isn't accepted as such and this is something other women can't relate to. I guess I simply see them as other kinds of women.
Cringing might be to harsh, I simply feel uncomfortable talking about certain topics or doing things in their presence that usually every girl can relate to while I don't know if they can.

>>8553741
Fucking agreed bro.
Just because you're a girl and sometimes you wanna drink beer and watch football or whatever the Fuck doesn't meant you're fucking genderfluid or whatever.
It's funny because whenever People try to explain why they think they're gender fluid they just use stereotypes of what genders do and it's so fucking retarded

>>8553741
Many parts of the LGBT don't even understand each other (as evidenced by its board). As long as you don't go on a tirade trying to prove genderfluid isn't a thing, you'll be okay.

>>8553745
did you try emailing her with the pp address provided?

>>8550644
>>8550665
>meetup
>mention cgl in passing
>you go on 4chan, anon? whyyyyyy that's a horrible mean place
>wut, cgl is like a lone secluded island
>besides, it's the last place left when people provide actual honest concrit and not just sugarcoated bullshit, it helped me improve
>well maybe you, but most people feel devasted and ridiculed
>3 hours and few drinks later
>offended girl gossips like crazy
>offended girl trashes outfits of a newbie teenage girl from nearby comm
>offended girl refers to asian lolitas in racist terms
>my regular posting of local con itas here can't even fucking compare

>>8553746
It just seems like a pointless term to me?

>>8553752
I know some of the first example you gave, and I understand why they use it but it just feels kinda weird to use a term like genderfluid when you simply don't know.
And yeah the latter group is the one that annoys me the most.

>>8553761
I know that's not everyone's reasoning but the ones that are "yeah sometimes I like skirts some I"m genderfluid" are the absolute worst.

>>8553786
Don't worry I won't, even saying I question it's existence would be social suicide anyway.

>>8550731
I remember a few years ago there was a situation where someone sent their doll out to be commissioned, the artist stopped responding, and then a long time later the owner got a box in the mail with their doll, another doll they had never seen before, and some odd accessories and a letter saying something about the girl being in the hospital so they sent all the doll stuff they could find. As far as I know no one ever contacted the owner back about the second doll.

Also there was once that an artist lost all contact with a customer, and then found out the customer had passed away and the family didn't want the doll things back. Weird situation to be in. I think she ended up auctioning it for charity or something.

>>8550789
I am 99% sure we are in the same comm, and if so I would like to add that I have seen this woman beg to use people's food stamps cards for Thanksgiving dinner but bought dresses and shoes the month before.
>inb4 dont hate on people in bad situations
>you fucking know when a holiday is coming up theyre the same time every year buckle down and budget your shit

I think once I get a credit card, I'm going to start buying cheap brand to scalp at my local con to all the newbz.

>>8547499
Newbs are idiots. One girl kept telling me her dress was brand because the print said AP even though it was clearly a replica and I told her, you paid $50, brand cost way more than that.....people are naive

>>8554814
Not always. I've scored brand stuff for $50 and under! Just depends on what it is.

I trim weed for a living. Nobody would ever guess. I just lie about how I get money for Lolita. But shit, ten thousand dollars for a month of trimming weed in the woods... Can't beat it. I don't ever want anyone to find out about it though, Id never hear the end of it.

>>8555041
I basically only work 3 months out of the year, plus some side jobs where I make 2 to 4 thousand every six weeks

>>8555041
Holy fuck thats...hilarious. Bumfuck United States?

>>8555041
How does one get in on this?

>>8555041
>>8555071

>>8555214
Lol its not bait. You get 200 per lbs to clip. Im fast so I can do 2 or 3 lbs a day. Go out to an outdoor grow in humboldt county and trim for 4 weeks straight and you have quite the stack of cash. Its not easy though, its risky and you have to live in a tent for a month or however long it takes to clip the field.

I pretty much got in on it by knowing.oeople who work in the pot industry. I've worked private grows and weed warehouses for the past 6 years.

>>8555209
You have to know somebody for the most part. I got pretty lucky myself.

>>8555041
My hippy mom up in northern California used to do this for money too lol. She would send me enormous bags of the trimmings she got to keep through the mail, and I would make edibles with it.
Good times, man.

>>8555249
Yeah you can make a surprisingly large amount of money plus free pot and stuff

I wish this thread had more people talking about shameful things, so I'll contribute.
I faked some screenshots and got a really popular ~kawaii~ blogger in a lot of shit just because I wanted to see if I could. To be fair, she was really annoying though and I did a lot of people a favor because now she changed her whole persona after it and doesn't pretend to be into Lolita anymore. Which doesn't justify it of course, I'm a shitty person.
Any other bpd anons who use this board to fuel their need for drama?
>>8554424
You have to be 18 to use this website anon. Or at least don't make it obvious that you're underaged.

>>8556457
>faked screenshots
>changed persona
Pastel-cutie? or whatever the fuck she calls herself now. dont worry anon you did everyone a solid lol

>>8556457
Tbh you should get treated for that mental illness of yours.
I'd never do anything to anyone just to see if I could, only if they've slighted me in some way or said something annoying, and even then I'd never do anything too bad. I just don't care for random girls on the internet enough to do anything past some light googling. Have fun being eternally 14 in the worst way possible.

>>8556460
what happened to her?

I touched a loli on the butt and smelled her hair.

>>8556497

>>8556457
>>8556460
I want to believe but I'm not sure I do.

>>8547733
This, but it still doesn't make it any less shitty of people to steal from them.
>>8547735
Different anon, but unless you're in a financial position where you can't, only a casual isn't willing to pay whatever it takes to get their dream dress.

>>8556457
I did something mildy similar to my comm. My comm has some history with drama because of a drama queen and even broke up. I added fuel to really old drama here on /cgl/ first accidently then on purpose, just to see if I could a reaction from the comm leader which was the former drama queen. Turned out she still is and it was good not to join the comm again.

>>8556496
she fucked off from lolita/the kawaii blogger comm and became an aesthetic/ulzzang type blogger. she still posts awful unflattering pictures on instagram though.

>>8560316
oh, berry

>>8560316
She looks like Charms in a pastel wig, and Charms looks like an overweight crackwhore. Oh, karma.

>>8560316
link link link

I sold an ita weeaboo in my comm an old as shit bodyline dress and claimed it was old school AP, what an idiot.

>>8547556
Bloodmyer?

I borrowed some VW shoes off a friend and got a big scuff down one side. I felt crazy bad and buffed as much as I could out. It looked okay. Not noticeable.

I offered her money towards a new pair but she said it was okay, even when I pressed. She looked so disappointed though. I'm so sorry, friend. Please forgive me.

>>8560693
bloodmyer is loved in her newest name/carnation
or am I the only one in our comm fed up with the spamming

>>8560754
she needs to stfu and stop spamming the comm
her awards thing is bullshit too and just an excuse for her to win the golden heart award.

>>8560896
Golden heart? Wasn't that a Anime Matsuri award?

>>8560754
>>8560896
I like her but god she needs to shut up sometimes and stop over sharing every aspect of her life. We get it, you're severely disabled/dyslexic/ass-burgers, you've told us all a million times.

>>8553810
i begin to think many of the more vocal anti-/cgl/ lolitas are like hardcore homophobes... the type who are hiding or suppressing something.

>>8553741
i can understand this opinion. i myself certainly believe in nonbinary genders (agender and bigender specifically, not all that stargender kawaiiself garbage) because i've talked to actual nonbinary people who actually have gender dysphoria.
i'm really on the fence about genderfluidity as an actual identity (excluding "i wear boy's shirts and play video games so i'm a boy sometimes uwu") because dysphoria fluctuates and can fluctuate enough so that a person can be perfectly fine being seen as their assigned gender one moment and having crippling dysphoria the next. that doesn't make them have two genders that they switch between, just different amounts of dysphoria at any one time.

>>8553741
Genderfluid is a thing but it's something easier understood when you're older. Only good explanation of what genderfluid is came from a genderfluid person in their 40s that identifies as that since their 20s (Long before than tumblr and shit)

It's generally something very personal that varies from person to person. Even people who know they are genderfluid will have problem defining themselves. This person said that being honest and open about it to non-close people will eventually hurt you in the long road.

Also, genderfluid was first used by intersex people who had very un-defined genitals and were in some weird way of being raised 'bi-gender' which screwed up all the shit about gender they later on experienced with the world.

That being said just polite nod and continue on with life.
(Engrish because not from USA)

>>8550632
anon, are you me? this is totally something I would do

>>8560994
Has anyone noticed that she isn't as dyslexic as she used to be. What disability did she tell you that she had?

>>8560896
I thought I was the only person that felt this way.

>>8550549
A-are you me, anon?
No, seriously, I did this for over a year, but via PayPal disputes. After that, Ebay wised up and prohibited me from opening any more disputes. I simply opened a new Ebay & PayPal account. I'm not doing it anymore though...

>>8563002
I can't remember if she's even gone into specifics, just that she's mentioned it at any opportunity.

>>8563006
Not that anon but it's frustrating that is the biggest prize since it isn't even applicable to any other comm members.

>>8550632
>tfw idk what bodyline ageplay coord looks like
it's like my first day here pls

>>8556497
Who hasn't?

A lolita in my comm bought a dress from me, saying it was her dream dress.
A few months later a friend of mine said that she would like the same dress for a specific coord she had in mind.
I was higher up in the comm hierarchy than the lolita I sold the dress to in the first place so I persuaded her to sell it to my friend who wanted it.

>>8554303
I'm not part of your com, but you are 100% right. There's no forgiveness for not budgeting.
>>8555041
>this would be a dream job and all profit because I'm allergic.
Time to plan my retirement and grow some weed.

>>8563109
Do you even remember who came up with the categories, did we have a community discussion

>>8563411
There was no community discussion. So unless there was one in private she came up with the categories by herself.

>>8563445
Categories that conveniently fit her to a T for one of the awards....
People organising awards things shouldn't be able to be nominated, that's a normal thing

>>8563483
I hope there was a discussion with the mods. I really like the other two but since they made toni/bloodmyer a mod it's ruined things for me

>>8553741
Maybe it helps when you see it as partly trans? Trans people have brain structures that resemble the gender they identify with more than cis-gendered people. Someone who is gender fluid might have a milder version of that because their structures are in between those of a trans and cis person in either amount or likeness.

>>8553741
I'm with you there. I've always been "genderqueer" or a real tomboy with gender issues for as long as I can remember (I am talking about wanting male pronouns when I was in preschool and kindergarden and wishing to be male in the early part of my life). I met a girl kind of like me a while ago and it was really helpful to have someone in common.

Now she's hoped aboard the transtrender bandwagon and claims she has no gender or is genderqueer, when before she admitted to being kind of like what I described. She's gone full Kool-Aid Tumblr and I'm fumbling trying to learn to be more effeminate since I feel like I fit neither way. People like her infuriate me since she's gone full militant SJW fakeboi and rips apart anyone like you who doesn't understand/doesn't believe in it.

I feel like transtrenders are making what I think is an interesting thing to look into and seriously discover more about into a fucking piece of fashion. I actually love the concept of genders and transgender and always have, but Tumblr has made it a circus parade and I'm honestly depressed about it. I used to be so happy about this stuff and seeing it progress, but now I'm jaded because they're these narcissistic teens calling them faeself and junk.

I used to know people who were into this stuff in sort of a mild activist way, just want to learn about it. It was pre-tumblr and they felt so much more genuine than anything does now. Is there anyone who knew about this stuff pre-tumblr that kind of feels similar? Trans is just the new fashionable thing and I'm scared the movement is going to hurt itself when we get so many detransitioners. If you look up the hashtag on tumblr, there's already a ton.

>>8552993
Some people just have very controlling families that don't realize that there is a thing called privacy.

>>8547239
Sold a brand dress that had cum stains on it.. Not sure if anyone would of wanted to buy it if they knew what caused stains.

>>8560896
Awards thing?

Like what...best dressed? How does that win you the golden heart?

>>8563119
It's literally their outfit where they pretend to be a little girl and have sex with their Dom who they call "Daddy" and who treats them like a little kid they kidnapped. It's probably really simple and easy to clean with lots of frills.

>>8564699
If you are a really spoiled little girl you do it in brand dresses :P

I try to be a moral person at all times.
>inb4 do u kno where u r
Being here doesn't excuse amoral behaviour. I like the conversation, but I have some values and self respect.

>>8564704
I need to get in on that.

>>8564500
>Is there anyone who knew about this stuff pre-tumblr that kind of feels similar?
before tumblr, there were fakebois on DeviantArt, MySpace, and LiveJournal. the problem is the same, the scope is just different.

>>8564697
Bloodmyer made lots of categories for us to vote for, gold heart, best dressed,things like that. We aren't allowed to plan meets, she has to do them

>>8564705
That's me too. I tried to wrack my brain for a story but I haven't done anything bad besides talk shit on here.

>>8547239
A few people in my tiny comm chatted shit behind my back so I hacked one of their accounts, made a really long ragepost in the comm fb group and gave it back to the girl I had stolen it from, then left the comm.

Aside from that nothing, I'd never do anything bad on purpose. I'd feel guilty for days on end.

>>8550731
The only hobby that can rival lolita for most weird-ass drama is BJD

>>8564733
I have met so many fucking fakebois on Gaia back in the day. One of my highschool bffs was 'dating' a British 19 year old emo boy who she regularly mailed American candy, snackfood, collectibles, and possibly money to. Supposedly the money was going towards him moving to live with her here, though I don't know if she ever actually sent any in the boxes. Of course he eventually turned out to be a 15 year old girl with a hoard of stolen Myspace emo kid pics.

>>8565865
To point out, that' not being a fakeboi, but identity theft and excessive lying.

>>8553746
>It affects their life and not yours.
This is how I view 99% of views and lifestyles, but genderqueer people feel it absolutely necessary that it DOES affect my life (and the lives of others around them.)

Does anyone shove their gender identity down the throats of others quite so hard as genderqueers?

>>8551827
What sort of infection? Fungal infection? Ingrowing toenail?

>>8556959
North West?

Well, I don't think this is bad in the sense, but I'll share:

>I bought my first Lolita dress off of Tokyo Rebel (wasn't aware of second-hand shops until much later)
>I think I'm ready to dip my toes into the lolita fashion
>Shell out almost $170 for pic related
>Arrives a few weeks later
>Didn't do proper research, dress is ill fitting (boob loaf & tight as hell)
>Cry a thousand rivers because I got over excited & blinded by babby's first burando
>Have to face the facts & sell it back since I can't wear it
>Post on a price check thread asking if I could get my money back for it
>Nope.avi, not even close.
>Estimated sell back less than $100 because Putumayo is ita as shit apparently
>Get desperate & sell it on lacemarket for the price I bought it for + shipping/handling + tracking
>Someone buys it the day after I put up on lacemarket
>Barely make my money back when the dust settles

After that, I haven't looked at or made any plans to get into Lolita. I've been pussyfooting with the idea for years now, but you know how that goes when you're a beginner.

>>8566226
If it makes you feel any better, that dress is cute as shit and you have good taste. Better luck with your next purchase!

>>8566292
Aw, thank you for that. Maybe when I get the courage to stop being a filthy NEET, I'll get back into the swing of things.

>>8550632
Fuck. I have some shitty Offbrand plaid JSK I use for kink classes/meet ups but I don't think any soul could ever pull it off in lolita.

>>8550644
I also compiled a list but only so I know who would be shitty moles. I don't want you on my facebook friendslist. There's a reason I won't add you. >:(

>>8550731
Denver, CO?????

>>8548588
International shipping is expensive.

Even going from New York state to Quebec, or Vancouver to Washington will easily cost 16 bucks for a small package, and by small package I mean a bubble mailer sized thing.

Theres also inherent risk of it being opened at customs, customs officers damaging it, and the general swapping of postal services which can obviously be hard on your package.

I dont sell CGL stuff but I do sell on eBay. I don't ship outside of Canada/USA. I've had people ask me for quotes for mailing shit to Brazil and I don't even respond because I don't want to deal with it.

Its too easy to go "I never got the package" especially for people internationally. "Item was damaged". I don't want to think people are scammers, but when your only reasonable option for making restitution with a buyer is
>Get them to ship it back and refund it
>Give partial discounts
>Or just straight up refund it

It becomes a huge pain in the ass. eBay/paypal can and will fuck you over at the claims center if they just decide they don't want to return the item to you and want a refund to boot.

I've lost items and my money because a buyer in Germany decided they were going to open a claim that they didn't get it, I used to include tracking in all international before I stopped. It didn't matter that it was marked as "delivered" because the buyer just says he never received it. Paypal takes your money and gives it back to the guy and he gets to keep your shit, and all you can do is leave him positive feedback.

So yeah, fuck selling internationally.

>>8566341
>I've lost items and my money because a buyer in Germany decided they were going to open a claim that they didn't get it, I used to include tracking in all international before I stopped. It didn't matter that it was marked as "delivered" because the buyer just says he never received it.

It may not be your fault, be he might not have received it anyway and could prove it. I'm from Germany as well and my Bodyline package was apparently delivered to some guy in another state on the other side of the country. According to Bodyline they shippied it to the right address but somehow it didn't end up at my house. So of course I opened a claim as well.

>>8547504
It was faster and cheaper for me to ship a dress via ems with full insurance to the USA from Japan than tracked taking a week within the US. USPS is the fucking devil, and they refuse to help/take responsibility for anything.

At a meetup, I put gum into another girl's wavy brown wig because she wouldn't shut up about her huge lolita order that she supposedly got a 'great deal' on. Congratulations. Go buy a new wig.

>>8551305
>>8564750
Why the flying fuck do you put up with this as a comm? Someone should either depose her, or start a new one.

>>8548598
Same here. and i fucking hate it when someone is posting it in a finds thread.
I'm like, nooooooooo! If these bitches don't want to spend hours looking for things daily like I do then they don't deserve it either.

>>8550583
That is why I only ship tracked and often pinch in to make it signed for (costs me only about €1,50 ish).
Bitches can't scam me.

>>8566514
thats fucked

I make a habit of buying the dream dresses of the girls in my comm (NW)

>>8567823
NW UK?

>>8567832
I hope not. They've had enough drama.

>>8567845
I think it's somebody posting as them, seeing as it's gone past 2am in the UK. Not that people can't stay up or anything, just doesn't seem to be convincing.

>>8567866
Probably up watching hot yowie aneemays

>>8556457
Did you post the fake screenshots to btb?

I always drink Cranberry juice and vodka at the bar after con. There is only 1 bar on site so everyone is there.
I hate people wearing costumes to the bar. The bar should be chill. If you're wearing a costume then you're desperate for attention.
And you shouldn't wear precious costumes to bars. Bars are messy.

Shame about that cranberry juice stain on your costume. I spill when I'm drunk.

>>8567823
Why waste money like that? Just buy the things you care about, not what others want, and stop stirring up drama. Everybody's sick of the NW shit. Don't you care how you present your community to the rest of the world? I'd hate to be in a comm where the whole international lolita community thinks you're all incapable, whiny, bitchy itas.

>>8567970
It's clearly a troll don't bite

>>8550023
It's because you stupid whores always ask the rest of us to underdeclare as if your customs are my problem. I'm not breaking the law for your cheap ass.

>>8553741
Genderfluid here.

I'm genderfluid because I don't mentally fit my body. I have really bad dysphoria with my chest and always have done. I've always been a tomboy but I've always liked dressing up. I'm still struggling with my gender and I feel like I'm probably transmale, but honestly I have an easier ride in a female body presenting as a male rather than the other way around. I am a she and the pronoun has never bothered me, but I have really bad body dysphoria which is why I identify that way.

I cringe for all the 14 year olds that will have to take back coming out when they realise they're perfectly happy in their own skin and should enjoy what they want outside the realms of gender confinments. I'm a bit jealous of that security.

>>8553746
The other day I was really pissed off at work for someone laughing at me for being "such a girl" when I was struggling to open a door.

A coworker who is a transgirl said that they would have taken it as a complement.

Clearly was being laughed at for bring weak. I don't think she gets it. Plus I'm not sure she has actually dressed female in public other than one cosplay so I'm worried for her experiencing reality.

>>8555234
Lol I'd love to move to US for a few months to do this. How likely is it that I could arrange that?

The mods of my comm have a habit of posting a "warning" whenever they're mentioned on 4chan.
"Just a reminder, everyone! Please don't post our pictures to outside groups without permission!"

That's my cue to go to 4chan, find the thread, and add more fuel to the fire.

>>8568017

Get connections, get a J1, and get a sham part time job?

And if you're European, they rarely check them since they're white. My classmates have gotten away with doing really weird shit in the US.

>>8553757
Get a shoe stretcher and work them out a bit. I have to do the same thing with a pair of AnTaiNas I bought.

>>8568113
This, there's so many French people living illegally in the States it's maddening.

I often spot peoples nudes from /b/ and /soc/ because i recognize their nail polish color, thumbs, beauty spots ect.
Ive privately messaged them about finding it,
did it to a tumblrlita.
Once i lied about finding a local lolitas nudes from the details when really she changed some useless username to her chan name

>capcha says select all the outdoor pools. only two images are arent pools but instead hot tubs.

>>8566514
Hope someone does the same to you and puts gum in your hair.

Not really Lolita related but

>buy Honoka wig over ebay
>seller contacts me to tell me the item is out of stock and it was their mistake and they would give me a refund if I wanted
>order is cancelled, I get my money back, totally fine
>end up deciding to cosplay Kotori later anyways
>cue a month later, I go to check the mail
>an unexpected package with the letters "ANIME WIG"
>wtf
>Honoka wig is sitting in package, beautiful as ever
>keeps both wig and money

I feel like a whore in church honestly.

>>8567823
I've intentially purchased the dream dress of a girl I disliked just to wear it and eat extremely slopply in front of her.

A lot of my comm members think I'm a saint who is completely against /cgl/ when I've actually contributed to threads specifically about my own comm drama.

>>8568159
I had a captcha where I had to pick hot tub, but pools came up.

>>8567823
>>8567832
Why on Earth would anybody wanna buy the dream dresses of those clowns? What sort of disposable income do you have?

>>8567980
That's what I was thinking. Nobody sane would buy their shit taste.

>>8568240
Something similar happened to me, I bought a JSK from some girl, month later dress still isn't here with EMS and she gives me a full refund, I thought maybe she tried scamming me because her communication was terrible. A month later on one sunny morning, dress shows up out of nowhere. Got free burando.

I pretend to be a girl in MMOs, get shitloads of donations, then use the cash to help my gf buy lolita

>>8568315
If this is true, you're a little sweetheart.
You trick those neckbeards, you.

>>8568161
No one knows it was me and frankly there are enough comms out there that I highly doubt Id be found out. I also dont go around bragging about how much money mommy and daddy spend on my lolita clothes when I have a modestly paying job that could very well go to it and instead don't bother helping and just live off of everything they give me.

She deserved it.

>>8568321
So you just jelly

>>8568327
Hell yes. So I ruined her thing. Not like she can't afford another 'high quality wig that was pretty expensive for my parents, but they got it for me anyways because I asked really nice and said I would pay them back, but I don't plan on it' wig.

Anon, if you knew this chick you would fuck with her shit too. Next meetup I am going to find some way to nonchalantly tumble my tea.

>>8568321
>She deserved it.
She did not, you're just a fucking scrote.

>>8568321
>What is being a decent human being?
Get the fuck out.
I bet you're a fucking ita.
I hope someone spills tea or wine or what have you all over your favorite burando top tier dream dress.

>>8568321
>How dare other people get gifts from their loved ones! Those bitches!

>>8568358
wait so lemme get this straight
>wig was pretty expensive for her parents
>they got it for her because she asked, probably because it made her happy
>you decide to teach her a lesson because she said she won't pay her parents back... by putting gum in the wig they paid for her
>isn't that counter-productive?
you basically ruined something her parents bought, not something she bought.

>>8568315
>tfw actual girl playing various MMOs and MMORPGs but never get free shit from neckbeards
what am I doing wrong
besides not using voice chat because obviously you don't need that

I bullied a 'brolita' out of my comm through /cgl/ and BtB. Later it turned out that he was a creep who had been making other people uncomfortable and even sexually harassing several underage members, but when I decided to try to get rid of him I didn't know this. I just wanted him to gtfo because he was gross and ugly.

>>8568569
more girls should trust their gut feeling
too many people like that hide behind acceptance and transphobia to prevent getting shit on when they harass others

trannies especially, in my country there is one who flashed a child at a con and harassed some of the lolitas and when she got thrown out of the comm of course she started crying transphobia

>>8568415
You don't flirt enough. And well, talk about how amazing your tits are. Might help if you whisper anyone with how lonely you are.

Just seen a lot of girls do that lol. Wish I had the balls to do too.

>Found predatorrat as recommendation for cute stockings
>Spent most of my lolita money in slutty panties and flatchest bras

>>8548421
>>8548459
Fuck that's sad. I hope she finds the dress again someday.

>>8555041
Honestly I think that anyone who would judge you for trimming weed for a living isn't worth your time.

>>8566145
Tumblr MtFs.

>>8568315
Boyfriend of the year.

>>8568569
>>8568579
Yep, always trust your gut.

I always offer tracking on my packages, but I don't know how my postal system works. Normal shipping is expensive as it is, and tracking would be double the price and I have a hard time trying to sell anything with such steep shipping prices... My items are so friggin cheap, but the shipping quotes kill me. So I charge the cheaper rate, ship it as soon as the money is paid and tell them I spilled water on the tracking number or lost the slip of paper, ect. I am very convincing and they all end up consoling me and not to worry, they'll tell me as soon as the package arrives (I take photos and everything at the post office to prove I've sent it, everything bar the "tracking number" I don't have). Recently I was too exhausted to think of an excuse so I never messaged her with the tracking number. I avoided my messages for weeks and then finally checked...I guess she didn't care because I never had her chase me up for it or even confirmed she got her package and I never got a charge back sooooo....Yeah.
Forgive me, Mana-sama

>>8572566
Where are you from anon?

>>8572520
Tumblr FTMs.

>>8568569
That Dutch brolita? I actually always wondered what he really was ( I mean sorry but just because 4chan/secrets doesn't mean I believe it), he's probably just not very bright and made some stupid remarks, but I was curious so I tried to talk to him a bit during events but I just got nothing out if him at all, like he doesn't really have a personality really. Maybe he got scared and lonely after the whole incident or maybe he just is really that creepy guy, I don't know.

>>8568415
You don't get random guys trying to flirt with you if you voice chat with any of them?
I used to get people flirting with me and giving me free shit just for talking to them on vent and mumble.

>>8566226
>Putumayo is ita as shit
Um fuck whoever told you that I fucking love Putumayo. Some of their stuff isn't that good because theyre mostly punk type clothing but they still release a lot of good shit.

>>8568569
Was it MB? I wanted him kicked out because he yelled slurs and threatened physical violence on other comm members, but I didn't know about the sexual harassment thing until later.

>>8572582
He gave me the same vibes. He seemed like a nice guy but I didn't know what to make of him. He didn't seem particularly creepy, just...weird. The little conversations I had with him were so bland I can't even remember what we talked about.

I signed up for seekingarrangements.
I'm waiting for my profile to be approved and when it does, I'm going to try to get a sugar daddy to help pay for college.

I plan on getting into lolita and otome once I have the cash.

I'm very conflicted about this but I really need the money...

>>8575211
I've been on SA for ages, even got my friend into it. It's not a bad site, just takes you a while to distinguish between the morons and the legit ones.

>>8575221
Signed up for it a while ago and never did anything bc I was chickenshit. Is it hard to like talk to these guys? Have you personally ever had a bad or scary experience? Are they ever assholes about paying you?

>>8575221
Do you have any tips on how to find one/how an arrangement works?

I don't want to do anything too sexual, and would prefer if the relationship was platonic (I know that probably makes it more difficult in finding one, but it's not impossible, right?).

>>8575225
I've never had any scary experiences but I have had to deal with a lot of dickheads who feel entitled. After messaging this one guy a few times he sent me like this laundry list of questions, some were okay (what would you wear to a first date) and some were like ??? (what gift would you give me for a first date) And then when we planned to meet up he wanted to do it in a hotel lobby and have me give him boxers. I told him how weird and creepy that was especially since the whole point of the website is *I* get stuff and he gets to have sex, then he said "you sound difficult" lol wut?

Essentially, the first 2 times you meet up with the guy, do not have sex. If he discusses money up front without getting to know you first do not messages him. Always meet up at a public place like a coffee shop for the first meeting. Get the money (or gift since some of them are sensitive about cash and don't want to feel like they're paying a hooker) before hand. Also read the forums on the website, there's a lot of tips on there that really help.

>>8575243
Damn, that one guy does sound creepy.

Thank you for sharing.

>>8572582
Other than getting posted on BtB I don't think he was actively bullied out. That guy did a few inappropriate things, like showing his bra to different comm members, and acted weird around the underage members. At his age he should of been aware that hanging out with 15 year old as a guy in his twenties while wearing a dress is an odd thing to do. Things like showing his bra might have been more accepted in different circles he's in but it just doesn't fly in a lolita comm and he did it weirdly often (at least at 3 different meet ups). The community wouldn't have been as hard on him if he had apologized and stopped doing it but instead he continued and called us bullying elitists. I definitely find him very odd especially how he never improved.

>>8575242
The basic arrangement will be something along the lines of:

>get to know each other
>discuss budget
>plan times to meet
>get money/gifts/food/spa treatments/college tuition/whatever it is you need the money for and what he feels comfortable getting you
>go to hotel or his home if he's unmarried (a lot of them are married, just saying if that makes you uncomfortable)
>have sex
>rinse and repeat until either of you finds the arrangement inconvenient

And yeah platonic probs won't work unless you can find the suckers who don't want to meet you and just want to be financially dominated (google it if you're curious)

>>8567916
No? she wasn't Lolita enough to be on BtB, she was literally just a kawaii blogger who bought bodyline.

I once changed my mind about selling something (never really wanted to sell it in the first place but needed money) so when someone bid on it I lied and said I didn't have it anymore. I'm sorry!

>>8572588
>Um fuck whoever told you that I fucking love Putumayo.
I'm not gonna lie, they're a guilty pleasure brand for me.

>Some of their stuff isn't that good because theyre mostly punk type clothing but they still release a lot of good shit.
When I was first starting my research in lolita, I fell in love with their punk stuff. But as I looked more into their clothing, the punk loli style seems hit-and-miss.

>pic related
>my first dream dress
I don't know why, but I just fell in love with this dress. I don't think that a good petti would fit under (not that I've seen any pictures with a full coord anyways), but I think it might be fine enough to wear on it's own for running errands & stuff like, not full lolita.

I'm girlyhoot

>>8556480
This.
Unless they did something really bad to you like harassment, make your friends go aganist you, etc... that isn't justified.

>>8568412
Anon's a dumbass anyway... even IF this story is true, it's not like gum is impossible to remove from a wig. Unless she somehow managed to mash it ieverywhere, worst case scenario, she'll have to seamrip an inch of wefts out. If it's a high quality wig, it'd be impossible to notice that little bit of missing hair. Salty anon is still salty and wiglolita is none the worse for wear.

>>8547474
>>8548122


UPDATE

A Gull must have known who I/ she (or maybe she is a gull) was because today I got a Facebook message from her! She re-activated her FaceBook account and we talked.

Turns out it was a massive misunderstanding between the both of us.

I offered to send her the money but she refused. She told me not to worry and to enjoy the AP Cape

I'd love to thank the Gull who read my post and sent it to her, or if she's reading this herself then thank you - thank you for being so kind and understanding

>>8572581
Tumblr general. A community who is adamant that beekeeping is slave labour and feeds their cats and dogs no meat will do their damn best to shove all the half-understood buzzwords down everyone else's throats relentlessly. Jfash is a pretty touchy topic with SJWs in general, but transtrenders always get a free pass because muh oppresshun. They then spam every social media outlet with rants about the dysphoria triggered by seeing the colour pink, and then add in twenty photosets of their new girly Jfash dresses. Yes I mad, I know someone like this IRL and it bugs the shit out of me.