/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

love it.

>>8528717
Simple and pretty.

>>8528717
Ooo! I love this

I love this so much.

>>8528717
What skirts is this? Did AatP actually release something that already looks like a replica?

>>8528913
The Secret Between Alice and the Clock Tower. It does look like that, I have the JSK.

>>8528903
so cute!

this JSK isn't perfect but it's so sweet for handmade.

>>8528919
You mean sew sweet

>>8528919
As far as the JSK goes, I wish she'd defined the waist a but more with a ~1.5 inch black band or something...but that's my only minor nitpick and this coordinate is adorable!

>>8529052
**a bit more

also that wig color looks great on her, wow

I really liked this one too. Glad to see old gothic isn't completely dead.

>Still hate those stupid socks tho

>>8529163
I actually like the socks in black with Gothic outfits. They're like fancier fishnet/lace tights. It's the pink and white that look weird to me.

Better than her usual coords, I suppose.

>>8529193
She has to be fucking with us...she literally has trolls in her hair...

This is a hot mess.

>>8529197
Kek. I'm really confused over the troll shit but I think it's better than her ridiculous droopy boob crap. She looks terribly squished into that dress, though. Poor dress.

>>8529193
NO, I refuse to believe this is real.

>>8529198
Woops, I got beaten to the punch

>>8529193
>salopette + underskirt
>pastel vom wig
>troll
Why would anyone think this was a good idea?

>>8529193

Erinne....bitch...why...

>>8529209
I didn't even realize it was a salopette with all the other crap going on in the picture. I was wondering why it looked so short. Eurgh.

>>8529193
God is dead.

>>8529193
I had to do a double take because I legit thought it was PT in the first image.

>>8529163
These socks still look like something a scene girl would wear to me. But I'm sure it breathes great for the summer.

This is possibly one of the only times I've liked a crazy intricate headress in a coord. It seems nicely balanced with the rest of the outfit.

>"lifestyle ouji"

>>8529193
How the hell is this better? She has trolls glued to her wig. She holding a naked troll ffs. not to mention day dream carnival looks terrible here.

>>8529193
She looks like a troll herself.

>>8529235
Department stores are so prince lifestyle.

>>8529193
On what planet does she think this is cute?

>>8528717
Kinda weirded out about the fact that it seems like she's wearing two headbands at once?

>>8529229
I'm so in love with this, sweet devil (?) looks less clusterfuck here than it does in all those stock pictures

>>8529198

>>8529193
Everything about this chick disgusts me.

>>8529288
....why. Not that weird.

>>8529220
shit is that not PT? or is it that chick with the boobloaf and massive chin?

>The Lolita feminist meet took place
>Lolita feminist
haha what are you serious?
Also god damn her face is so unfortunate.

>>8529398
Bingo

Guess who's back on the lolita scene

>>8529402
Her make up is horrible! My three year old neice could do a better job!

>>8529402
>we had to be equal parts girly, and badass
Being girly is badass all by itself. People shouldn't have to be "badass" as feminism defines it by being violent and embodying masculine traits. badassery is about doing what you want and screwing what other people think. I've never seen a feminist event where people are told to do what they want, there are always specifics about what qualifies as "strong".

Suck it. feminism. You're worse than the "patriarchy" because you actually think you are liberating women when all you are is another power telling us what to do.

>>8529163
I actually think this is one of the few outfits I've seen where they work, because of the lack of detail overload elsewhere- which is the kind of coord you usually seen these worn in.

>>8529220
same

>>8529229
I like this a lot, but anytime I see gold shoes like that I think they cheapen the outfit. Something with a duller or smoother gold shine would be more luxurious looking.

>>8529402
idk why you'd want to revolve a meet specifically around feminism. Dont get me wrong, I know how you can link lolita to feminism like you could with gyaru (please don't start this debate again guys) but I find the 'badass & cute' thing kind of.....weird?
I mean, feminism states that the way you dress doesn't define who you are, so why are they saying 'girly and badass' as if the two are mutually exclusive?

please excuse me if this post makes no sense, kinda stoned

>>8529443

>>8529235
"Ewji"

>>8529472
>>8529443
>"as feminism defines it"
>"feminism states ____"
>implying that 'feminism' is a singular concept and not an amorphous clusterfuck of differing opinions and values.
raffs.jpg

>>8529193
Oh god she's taken to kawaii shooping now? This can only get better.

>>8529491
noji

>>8529021
Carlos!

>>8529544
I thought I noticed something weird about her eyes.

>>8529229
damn, do you know who made her headress?

>>8529557
>noji
all right can this be the term for ouji itas?

>>8529398
same thing?

What is that clusterfuck monstrosity on her head??

>>8529769
looks like one of those taobao headpieces + crown from Ciciworks combined all together

>>8529707
Voodoodolly

>>8529769
>clusterfuck monstrosity
It's a headbow and a mini crown, anon. Please calm down.

>>8529769
It's not that bad.

>>8529769
i'd be more concerned about her shoes, and even then it's not that bad. calm down.

>>8529769
Damn, I was just about to order that same bow in a different colorway after admiring it for months.. Now it's kind of disappointing.

>>8529769
Sweet Dreamer Gold Star Cross and Sweet Dreamer Mini Rose Crown together, that's what.

>>8529423
jesus sandals so kawaii

>>8529804
I know...either one would have been fine buy why both at the same time? It looks like a red growth with tendrils.

>>8528717
I hate those headbands, they make the whole outfit look tacky

>>8529163
Not gothic though

>>8530021
...are you being serious

>>8529723
nope, there's another girl

>>8528717
I love this so much

this wig is so ugly. she looks like a giant baby

>>8530069
Sorry for your bad taste I guess.

>>8529423
who is this?

>>8529829
Same, the proportions are so weird though, I'm glad I saw this.

>>8530111
anon don't be so mean, I think it's wonderful that aliens are getting into lolita too

>>8529769
>>8530111
Conehead lolita is a thing now it seems

>>8530111
Looks like a typical hime gyaru wig. I see no problem with it.

>>8530190
>>8530188
Get out of my elongated head

>>8529193
I wish people would stop praising her on CoF. I wish someone would tell her to stop.

>>8530111
She looks like Glinda.

>>8530211
I kind of want her to continue to see how bad she can get.

>>8529193
She looks so much like PT it's uncanny.

>>8530188
>>8530190

Nevr 4get

>>8530232
Semi OT but it's refreshing to see an example of 'pinks don't match!!!' that's actually warranted and not just lolita OCD nit picking

>>8530188
>>8530190

Her head looks so much smaller compared to the rest of her.

>>8529769
The headpiece was probably supposed to be flatter, but the tulle/organza kept fanning out. It happens to me a lot with my veils since I have long hair- see how its getting caught in her wig? I'm sure she looked nice in person.

>>8530316
I think she's leaning back a bit (maybe to smooth out the tummy?)

>>8530111
If this was lavender instead of pink it would be the perfect LSP coord.

>>8529258
Girl on the left is very cute but her posture isn't flattering at all. If you're reading this, try to remember to keep good posture for photos, I have the same problem.

>>8529198
the new PT (jk our queen cannot be ousted)

>>8529198
does anyone have a pic of her in normal clothes? Is she far or just weirdly proportioned or what?

>>8530213
It's GAlinda....with a Guh.

>>8530474

>>8530499
Damn she doesn't look so bad. Lolita is just not her style imo.

>>8530502

>>8529402
"badass and cute" seems like a good excuse to wear teddy motors if i've ever heard one

>>8530505
why does she do this with/to her eyebrows

>>8529769
The headbow wouldn't be so bad if it was in a nice off-white color, or even pale pink. The red is too stark for the dress

>>8530316
She needs to stay away from puffy cap-sleeved blouses but otherwise she's pretty cute

>>8530505
I take that back.

She takes really unflattering photos and the way she positions her jaw and lips, makes her chin look WAY bigger than it should. And where's her eyebrows??

>>8529769
Woah chill there. I was there at that tea party and her head piece actually looked cute but the angle in the photo is pretty bad. Although i would prefer if the crown was more to the side rather than smack in the middle.

I actually really liked the way she coorded this skirt but fucking hate her purse.

>>8530505

>In-N-Out

western faggot confirmed

>>8530569
That lipstick is so not flattering

>>8529193
she's so sweet in person though

>>8530587
Anon, she's super fake

>>8530587

Sweetness does not a good coord and chin make.

>>8530594
how so?

I think this was really neat

>>8530633
That crown looks lovely and Choke looks flawless.

>>8530111
rose quartz cosplayers need to take a leaf out of her book. Perfect hime bump

>>8530633
I think it sucks. The dress seems to fit really unflattering with no waist. Maybe that's why she's hiding it behind hair or maybe it just looks like that because of the hair.

>>8530633
where's the dress from?
gosh lockshop wigs have never looked worse.

>>8529443
>just another power telling us what to do.

Bless. When will people like this learn? Also, using badass to describe lolitas ever is just cringeworthy.

>>8530633
That goddamn crown. Why did she think it'd look good? I don't know if that raggedy wig is too flat or if the crown is too cheap. Probably both. Something about blank tights pisses me off here too. I like them in casual coords, but it looks like she's trying to half-ass an OTT thing here.

Also, hi Choke.

>>8530652
Juliette et Justine

>>8529229
I love this girl, best black lolita

>>8530164
Peacockfeather

When will the shitty-ass underskirts end?

>>8530721
Gotta keep warm in winter. It's cold out there without shelter.

She looks familiar...

>>8530698
Agreed! So far, I've loved all her coords and she seems very nice on top of that as well.
Many of her coords are very creative and out of the box but she makes them work, everytime! Not everyone can pull that off, that takes skill.
She's in my top 5 best/favorite Lolitas, I don't look at race though, imo that is the least important thing in Lolita for me as I only care about how good a coord is.
She's really pretty though, got a girl crush on her.

>>8530721
I hate on any lolita that makes our fashion look like a costume.
This shit right here is a costume, like cosplay and on top of it pretty gd ita.
Only thing I like about this are her shoes lol.

>>8529193
Hahhah once again she's trying to fit into something that doesn't even remotely fit her.
Fuck, she's worse than PT at this point.

>>8529402
She has lovely hair but this style doesn't work with that kind of headbow.
Red lipstick is nice with pastels imo. Why is she wearing those shoes, gurl what were you thinking?

>>8529769
Yeah, that thing on her head looks awkward.
Other than that it's pretty cute.

>>8530111
I hate that wig so much. So far none of the wigs she worn flatter her, they swap her face. Looks like an alien ffs.

>>8530658
>Also, hi Choke.
hi paranoid-chan, did you remember to take your meds today?

>>8530677
thank you
only jetj dress I've seen that I've really liked, wow

how come nobody posts all this crit on the actual posts rather than here? not bitching, i'm genuinely curious, a lot of people do say they want concrit

>>8530633
honestly I don't see the creativity
she's literally styled it exactly like the stock photo (it's an OP, yeah) which is fine, but it's hardly anything 'neat' it's just...meh tier
You only love it because it's choke

>>8530633
Underwhelming for Choke. She did say she was sick, though.

I'm interested to see where her shoe line goes, since apparently Lockshop/Rosenrot is making shoes now (in the picture)

>>8530810
Whenever people coord just like stock pics I wonder if it is intentional or they subconsciously are referencing it? Anyway, we have established that Choke isn't creative but she doesn't have to be.

>>8530810
>>8530633
She's wearing a completely different wig, a hair accessory, underskirt and some jewellery. Also socks instead of tights. Because it's an OP in a monotone colorscheme there really isn't that much variation possible, anon. What do you want her to do? Wear it with red shoes, blue ankle socks and a pink headbow?

>>8530810
I think that it's equally neat whether it's on Choke or the stock picture.

She said 'neat', not 'creative'.

>>8530843
They want her to stop being beautiful and recognizable, duh. If you get even a little e-fame on here and you're not everyone's definition of flawless every time then you're dog shit, it seems.

>>8530809
because people find it difficult to give concrit in a nice way. it's easier to bitch anonymous than be nice and pointing out flaws at the same time

>>8530505
oh god she's uglier than I thought.

>>8530499
>>8530505
I really wish there was a way to ban ugly girls from wearing lolita, I hate that so many ugly girls wear it.

>>8530922
People are always so much harsher on anyone who gets any sort of attention. I think it's cgls jealousy of the attention not being given to them.

>>8530922
>recognizable
Well, whose fault is that?
I hate it when people get e-famous and then complain when, gasp, they're exposed to a lot more differing opinions and some aren't always the most positive.

What planet do you come from where everyone likes you and thinks you're gorgeous? Why does a negative comment even matter to you when it's about someone else and not you? Oi, cringe.

>>8530977
Bingo

>>8531087
bleg

>>8530977
Then by your logic people are just jelly of people like Kate and PT. Stop whiteknighting.

>>8530316
She modified / embellished the bodice of the dress. This fabric is very shiny in person so it's not going to hide any imperfections. Also, I'd have corded with black, gold, and red, not the white.

>>8530809
because they are lazy and self-serving

screaming
what the serious fuck?

>>8531190
okay i kind of love that card monster. not with that coord but it's fun and could look awesome on something more explicitly trump-based.

>>8531190

Wish the shoes were gold or red and there wasn't so much white (black and red would have been more dramatic colors). The white just feels like it cheapens it. I think the collar is creative in an OTT way, but the crown is cheap as fuck. I'd have rather seen a crazy headdress or hat that incorporates cards. The silver in the coord is just off.

>>8531105
Jealous of positive attention I guess I should have put.
I am not saying the critique isn't deserved in a lot of cases it's just the more attention someone has on them the more people are going to critique them. Especially when they get a lot of positive attention people like to point out flaws.

>>8530633
You guys seem exceptionally salty over this coord. It honestly looks really nice.

>>8530721
That makeup is disgusting and her circle lenses make her look crosseyed.

>>8530499
ok i'm like 30 lbs thinner than this girl and i can't fit into any of my brand anymore
how do fat girls do it

>>8531087
Everything in these pictures is gross but I can't get over how crusty her neck/cleavage area looks.

>>8531368

She doesn't "fit" anon, that's the point.

>>8531368
Fat distribution is a factor I'm sure, after that it's just a matter of willingness to stretch brands to the extremes.
Notice how she buys pieces like Sugar Hearts which have full back shirring. Also she has a DDC salopette, which tend to be really baggy and thus fitting more inside.

This chick always seems to have nice coords but I wish she'd stop wearing black wigs. Her skin is too dark for it imho so her face just blends into the abyss of her wig. I'm sure a light brown or even a cream wig would have looked much better

>>8531251
>the more attention someone has the more likely someone won't like it because of personal tastes
Hm....

>>8531251
>Especially when they get a lot of positive attention people like to point out flaws.
this.

in Choke's case she is a seagull as well as a model so people are extra salty and paranoid.

this place turns into a tabloid whenever someone efamous is posted or mentioned. if i had shoop skills i would have made a mockup /cgl/ celebrity gossip/trash-talking mag, the kind you see in supermarket checkout lanes, a long time ago.

>>8531444
>seagull
She's a tripfag with a history of being a cunt. Why does it have to be a big deal that some people don't like her? Stop being salty because anons dissed your idol.

>>8531440
Obviously that's a part of it but it goes beyond personal taste to flat out gossip a lot of the time.
>>8531444
Exactly. There is always some sort of terrible rumour that gets put out there just because someone gets positive attention. I have seen things like "oh they are an age player" "they are actually a trans male/female" or stupid shit like that which usually has no evidence.

>>8531427

Milk tea or a honey brown would really look good and brighten up the coord and her face. Anything darker than caramel would be too bright.

>>8530739
Hi choked and/or her friends. It's well known she self posts here. What's wrong with calling it out?

>>8531487
She posts here with her trip, anything other than that is just rumors

>>8531469
>idol
either i am not an average seagull, or you not everything everyone says is because they idolize someone or have a vendetta against them. a lot of people grow out of that after high school.

>>8531479
remember the "Misako is pregnant with John's baby" shit someone tried to start on BtB? some people do not grow out of highschool-level politics...

>>8531487
seek therapy, your worldview is warped.

>>8530633
I usually like her coords but this is very lackluster.
I hate that wig to be honest it takes away too much of the dress.

cute casual coord! she says she knows she needs a petti and legwear. it might be a bit otome?

>>8531368
She buys those sack dresses and then hikes them up so the underbust line sits at her neck and the skirt barely covers her crotch. She's not fitting into anything, anon.

>>8531513
Holy shit those bruises. Very cute, but damn what she doing to them legs

>>8531513

Cute casual coord but jesus did she fall down before she took the photo?! Her legs look awful!

Needs accessories, too. Some cute bracelets and maybe a single necklace? I'd also suggest a thin belt to match the bag. Not sure if it's her slip that's showing, but the lace on that is really shitty. She should invest in or make an underskirt with an eyelet lace trim.

>>8529229
Whenever I see this I think of that tithed gatekeeper.

>>8531506
Okay, Chokelate. Our world view is just so "warped"(?)
You're the one who keeps coming here lusting for e-fame.

>>8531524
It's pretty creepy how you think anyone and everyone who disagrees with you is this one chick.

>>8531427
How can someone's natural skin color be 'too dark' for their natural hair color

>>8531499
Your English is horrible...
>proceeds to pitch a shit fit at anyone who doesn't like Choke's coord or has a bad opinion
Yeah, you're not above the high school level as much as you'd like to believe. What's even your point? People should just not have opinions you don't agree with? You're too defensive over opinions that aren't even about you, which is why you're either a whiteknight or Choke herself. But afaik, Choke has been laying low since the last 'U JELLY' tantrum she pitched a few weeks ago with her trip on.

People like you are beyond idiotic and only serve to make things worse.

>>8531528
people like >>8531524 are too wrapped up in paranoid ideation to argue with. "creepy" is a good way of putting it.

>>8531531
Agreed; the wig looks fine. Maybe other colors would look particularly better with certain coords, but in general that's a safe color for her to use since it is the most natural.

>>8531534
>>8531528
Are you fucking blind? The samefagging in this thread is unreal. Choke and her Whiteknights, you're the creepy ones if you seriously think anyone who thinks your stock coords with your shitty, ratty wigs are anyone but you.

>>8531531
You can naturally have a mustache but that doesn't mean it looks nice?
If any white lolita wore the same wig no matter the coord she'd get called out for being lazy even if it were the same as her natural color.

I dont think it looks 'bad' I just think it could be better

>>8530698
Yeah, she's amazing! And she does ouji really well too! I wonder how much her closet is worth. I sort of follow her sales on fb and her turnover rate is huge! Also very jelly of 3F bonnet collection.

>>8530633
Shame she hates light shoes because this would look a lot more balanced with dark tights and light shoes.

>>8531595
do you have any pics of her in ouji saved? my gigantic ouji folder needs more diversity.

>>8530499
OHMY GOD
I KNOW THIS GIRL HOLY SHIT
I HAD TO DO VOLUNTEER WORK AND SHE WAS IN THE SAME TIME SLOT AS ME AND SHE WOULD ALWAYS HIT ME WITH THE DOOR. AND SHE MADE ME HOLD OPEN THE ELEVATOR WHILE SHE WENT TO PUT PAPERS ON THE WALL EVEN THOUGH OTHER PEOPLE HAD TO GO TO DIFFERENT FLOORS. AND SHE KEPT CALLING ME CHILL WHAT THE FUCK

>>8530633
I really like this

>>8531637
>SHE WOULD ALWAYS HIT ME WITH THE DOOR
imagining this literally right now, what do you mean?

>>8528919
Really good, but would have been so much better without the black bow on the stomach

>>8530721
this reads as more aristo than lolita to me, and because of that i kind of like it.

>>8530723
bad pictures but cute coord. Is this Etoile Twins?

>>8530813
Those are shoes from her brand? They're pretty cute looking. I have a feeling they'll be awful on girls with thicker legs though.

>>8530955
I think it's both that and the number of people who say they want concrit on FB but then can't take the heat even from people who ARE being both nice and critical. It's hard to give concrit in a hugbox...

>>8531637
Your meltdown is amusing me. More details, anon?

>>8531647
we had to go put up some flyers in rooms. she had me carry the tape and she would have the papers. all of the rooms were small siderooms (?) so it was crowded. each room had one of those buttons that automatically swings the door open and i never knew if she was going to open it manually or use the button. i usually avoided it but sometimes i wasn't paying attention.
we also had to make the flyers and since it was just text obviously we would use microsoft word but she wanted to use fucking excel.

>>8529402
Her make up is the only bad thing in this coord, but jesus, it's so bad!

>>8531427
She looks good with black hair but I do think maybe a milk tea wig would look good on her too. She's very pretty either way.

>>8531513
This would look cuter with a darker wig IMHO. Not only does the blonde blend into the straw hat too much, it also clashes with her eyebrows a bit much. I like this outfit though.

>>8531190
Another interesting idea with poor overall execution.
>>8531427
If she switched her blouse to cream her skin would be brighter. The wig needs to be brown/natural black because the flat black has too much blue or purple for the coord which is mostly browns with yellow tones. A wig with yellow tones would fix what seems off.

>>8530721
pretty sure that stuff like this stops being lolita when your skirt goes all the way to your damn ankles. looks like aristocrat more than lolita...

>>8531593
>wore the same wig no matter the coord she'd get called out for being lazy
We need to match our hair to our coords now? What the fuck.

>>8530633
I really like how this looks!

>>8531480

>>8531427

Quick shitty shoop to show what might work. I actually think the black isn't so bad, maybe she just needs to use a bit of highlighter to help brighten her complexion (not whitewash, but to help bring out a glow beyond the blush).

>>8531818
if you choose the wrong wig or style, it can ruin an outfit. so yes.

>>8530511
I disagree, I think it would work better if she have a cream color blouse to balance out the red more

>>8530698
Link to her tumblr?

>>8531850
Yeah, I like this less than the black she has on, but maybe even if her lighting was better it wouldn't blend so much with her complexion. It seems like there's just too harsh of shadows on the one side of her face.

>>8531515
>>8531517

Might be scars. I have a bunch on my legs from mosquito bites from camping. I sometimes use concealer to cover them up.

>>8531850
Too yellow, needs more brown.

>>8531818
Only if you care about cgl's option too much

>>8530564
looks like some sad tea party, dude. that cheap hotel room, that plain cup... them old sandwiches... that poop cake...

>>8530721
Her face is so scary. What is it with lolitas and not knowing where uncanny valley begins? She doesn't have to look so zoned out with crazy makeup to pull off a big eye look.

>>8531737
i disagree, the way the underskirts are layered makes the whole thing potato-shaped, which really isn't a shape i'd associate with aristo. it's just ugly.

More San Japan tea party.

>>8531941
I think she made a valiant effort with how mustardy that gold is and matching her wines. That being said, still a lot of clashing golds here.

>>8529163
>old gothic
How is this old? Just because it has a maxi pad headdress doesn't mean it's old school. Looks like regular gothic to me

>>8531978
not that anon, but the lack of print, the simplicity, etc., is unfortunately rare to see in gothic at this time. i can post examples if you like but it would be a bit off topic.

>>8531513
Is that a man

>>8531518
>Her legs look awful!
Looks like the could be pole dancing bruises to me.

>>8532010
I assumed they were bug bites that had left scarring. I've known multiple people with legs like that, they all scratched their mosquito bites until they scabbed over.

Not trying to sound mean, by the way. It's a cute coord. I would have gone with a darker wig though. The clashing eyebrows look a little unnatural in a country theme.

>>8530043
Despite the abundance of 'kuro = gothic' these days, that coord is indeed gothic.

>>8530316
>thumbnail
oh, that doesn't look so ba--
>fullsize
jesus christ

>>8531818
A sadly common opinion amongst newer lolitas. Just a step below the ones that think you need a wig before a petticoat.

>>8531941
That blouse is just too much, and pretty cheap looking. Not a fan of the shoes material either.

>>8531190
The card collar would look so good in Wonder Queen or in Magical Night Theater.

>>8532146
I have Wonder Queen and would really like to try this idea out. But I guess people will probably accuse me of stealing this girl's idea or something...

>>8532267
Rest assured anon, there will be dozens of these popping up in the coming months. Madonna crowns, anyone?

>>8531967
I think it's a filter. They actually matched pretty perfectly at the tea party itself, I saw her in the hallway afterwards.

>>8532048
Please look at that outfit for more than 1 second and you will see that it is not gothic

>>8532267
No worries, Anon~! I got the idea for the card collar off Pintrest, so I'm 1000% sure I am not the first person to wear one and I certainly won't be the last.

Wonder Queen is on my wishlist, so please, make it a thing! I would love to see it worn with other card themed prints, XP

love this! the glasses are kind of weird but this is so cute.

>>8531517
Yep, scars. I scar pretty bad, especially on my legs, but they're getting better. Will get pantyhose to even then out!

>>8531518
Yeah, someone else mentioned a belt. Didn't occur to me, but matching it with the bag seems like a good idea. I was also thinking something with a bow in the back. Maybe not with this coord specifically.

Petti is shit and I need to get a better one.

>>8531677
Thanks! I'm revamp this and go for a darker wig next time

>>8532000
It me

>>8532010
I'm not that athletic

>>8532032
Yeah my eyebrows are super dark and thick. It's rough.

Nice, not bad for my first time getting posted to /cgl/. Thanks for the feedback!! I hope to blossom into a loli you can all be proud of

>>8532489
as the one who posted you, i had no idea it was you! keep up the casual spirit, i miss casual coords a lot

>>8532476
She's so fucking cute it hurts me. I like the glasses, they make her eyes look really big. Extremely minor nitpick, I don't like the hair ties. Some cute ribbons or something would've been a little nicer than elastics. She matched the lavender in the print at least but it's still a little plain.

>>8532495
Thanks! Haha I just started and have been pretty hush hush about it. I was pleased with the general look, but of course a lot of details need fine-tuning. I like more casual stuff too so I'm hoping to go a little more down that route.

>>8531531
plenty of white people with platinum blonde natural hair that looks terrible on them, because it washes out their features since their skin is white. This is the same idea but inverted.

>>8532489
I like you; you handled everything super mature and I can see lots of potential in you. Keep at it!

>>8531427
>>8531850

I tried my hand at some photoshop. I really think this hair color helps her define her face more.

>>8532516
I'll work hard for you, senpai!!

>>8532452
Please learn what a non-print gothic coord looks like.

>>8532453
Thanks anon! It is a really creative idea and I think it goes well with the card theme in your dress. I have this jsk in red too and I love it.

>>8532556
Pfft. The dress is super cutesy with scalloping and rounded bows, the socks are cutey too and the shoes are sweet as fuck. The only gothic things are the headdress and maybe the wig. Newfag, please learn the difference between the main three styles before posting.

>>8531987
Stop judging what gothic looks like by what few outfits you see on CoF

>>8532556
Mana would be ashamed of you, there's no excuse. The dress itself is super sweet, like the anon mentioned the scallops and bow are not gothic, nor is the cupcake shape of the skirt. Gothic tends to use textures and lacing details more than things like scallops. The socks are a sweet staple and the shoes are TP knock offs which are as sweet as you can get. You may be confused by her hair and makeup.

>>8533149
Also, not saying bows aren't used in gothic. But there are different types and puffy round ones like this are not gothic.

>>8530111 Since when do babies have hair? I think it's super cute. I only wish I could do my hair like that!

Such old lady hands. Cute aside from that though.

>>8532048
haha I am one lolita who got a wig before a petti but that is due to my seamstress not finishing mine in time due to tons of orders. My wig simply arrived in the post first haha. sad times. so not all of us do it by choice XD

>>8533282

>>8532476
I think this is really creative coording with this dress - I've never seen it done this way. It's super cute!

>>8533285
Aw, her hands can't be that bad
>clicks thumbnail
oh my god

>>8533144
pic related is you

>>8533149
this is definitely a sweet dress. her hair and the ribbons of her headdress cover the design around the collar, and her general styling is gothic, but the dress is clearly meant to be sweet.

cute and atypical!

>>8533431

Wish the socks were cream and the shoes were maroon to match her hair ribbon. Feels slightly unbalanced colorwise.

>>8533285
See, whenever I tell people that hands show your age, too, and you should moisturise them as well, they think I'm being obsessive and say you don't need to worry about your hands. This shit is why. Good. Lord.

>>8533630
i am now and forever going to use moisturizer and sunscreen on my hands.

unrelated: love this outfit. the neck ruff is a skirt.

>>8532267
I shall wait for your card collar and wonder queen coord anon. When I first saw it, I knew that it had to be done with that print since it's already a OTT print in a way. And I don't think anyone will think of you as stealing the idea. Like how >>8532286 said, one girl wore a Madonna crown, everyone and their mothers started to make and wear Madonna crowns. A lot of things seen once in lolita inspire others to do it so give it a shot anon.

>>8534063
This is really nice. Sidenote: she has a cute face.

>>8532406
I kind of wondered that. It's hard to see if colors work well in photos or not.

>>8534063
This outfit is lovely, but I just wish the footwear wasn't so plain.

The coord itself is nice but her makeup is way too heavy. Those brows might be fine in regular fashion, but are too mature for sweet lolita.

>>8530594
Yes, deets please?

This coord was really well put together but the lack of headwear pisses me off to no end

>>8535095
Dat tiny ass purse.

>>8531519
I thought I was the only one, thank you anon

>>8532489
If you do get tights, try dance tights! They cover stuff like that really well.

>>8533149
Anon, how is this not completely subjective? If a dress is solidly black, chances are, it could be coorded either way. That's just how solid colors work. You could coord some ivory IW JSK gothic if you used a bunch of bone accessories. You could make a pink BtSSB jsk gothic if it was with the right accessories as well. The brand and random, non-motif features don't necessarily make something one way or the other.

Also, you could argue against it being gothic, but it's definitely kuro lolita and not something I'd call sweet. There simple isn't enough to define it as that and you're squinting really hard here.

>>8535095
I like it at a glance, but everything else is kind of bad individually if you stare at it.
>tiny purse
>torso does not fit the top right at all
>incredibly poor wig choice
>lack of accessories, especially head
The gold shoes don't really fit here to me and look a little harsh next to the yellows. I'd have picked a pastel shoe since gold isn't a dominant color at all the print. The jsk is cute and I like her effort, though.

>>8535192
>discussing gothic motifs
>"a bunch of bone accessories"
Kek heard round the world

>>8535218
I didn't mean literal bones, but now I'm laughing at the thought of it. Like those awful Etsy real animal bone necklaces for some type of shaman lolita coord. I meant along the lines of skulls.

>>8534063
Apparently this is an entirely offbrand coord? Either way, this is the perfect way to pull off lolita using solely offbrand items.

>>8529443
Feminism literally ony states that men and women deserve equal rights. Children on tumblr being confused and getting the wrong idea about what feminism should be about is another story. "Cute but badass"is one of those teenage tumblr things. Dangerous thing is that people out ther get the wrong idea about feminism bc of people like that, an because of the agressive "feminist" activists who literally attack people.

Sage for ot

>>8535230
Mana-sama only uses the finest bones, imported directly from Boneland

>>8533431
I love it, this is perfect for a casual coord. Not everything has to be so matchy-matchy all the time. Although if she wanted to take it up a notch I agree that getting wine shoes would be more elegant.

>>8529491
>>8529557
>>8529278
>>8529235
They're from the NW comm, what do you expect?

>>8535192
Kuro isn't a style, it's a theme. It's kuro sweet. If you don't realise that then there's no point addressing all the other things you said.

>>8535005
>Those shoes with that dress
The lack of refined accesories bothers me a lot. Rosa Mystica is a really elegant dress that deserves more than 2cheap elastic bracelets
Also in addittion to the eyebrows her eye makeup is too black making it really harsh for the dress.
>>8535095
>>8531941
>>8531190
>>8530721
>>8530111
>>8529198
>>8529193
I hope this trend of making EVERY single coord OTT dies soon. Girls who try way too hard to look "unique" and "speshul" are becoming a contradiction to what lolita is supposed to be, a fashion.
No wonder the general publuc thinks we're in costume.
Just take a look at most nice coords; those don't need everything but a sink in their heads or over-dramatic makeup.
Natural looking hair, a small original accesory, harmony between colors and themes. That's it!
/rant

Classy graveyard photoshoot, Kate.

Also, the way she did her lipstick isn't doing her any favours. It makes her jaw looks 10x wider than usual.

>>8535005
Is she wearing kids bracelets?

>>8535803
When she wears lipstick like this she looks like the queen of hearts

>>8535790

It's not like these girls wear an OTT coord every time they wear lolita. I don't really understand the problem, most of the time they're dressing like this for events. Not everybody is Kate who needs twelve underskirts and every accessory in the world for every coord.

>>8535803
She always reminds me of an unfortunate version of Choke. Like she has the same eyes and cheekbones as Choke, but an elongated face with a long nose and manly chin and jaw. She could have turned out very pretty, if the genetics didn't fuck so hard with her.

That being said.. that hair flatters her way more than her fried yellowish natural hairstyle. All black doesn't flatter her though and IA, the lipstick wasn't a good choice either.

so pretty. a hat would perfect it.

>>8529491
kek

>>8535790
so much this

>>8535991
this is nice

>>8535621
I just don't get why it matters either way. Not everything has to be shoved under a holy lolita trinity of classic-sweet-clothic. This is why we have substyles? It's not really super sweet and if you believe it is, you're really looking too far into a plain old black coord. Point out to me this source where scallops are only sweet, because that's as stupid as saying black lace is by default gothic.

>>8535803
I'm really tired of seeing her pose in cemeteries. They're not there so you do a fucking photoshoot. People are dead there, they're are people's families, friends, loved ones in the ground. Fucking retard.

>>8536021
it's part of her image rebranding for her new documentary.

>>8536026
What's part of her image? Making herself look like an edgelord without an ounce of respect? Because if that's what she's going for, it's working.

>>8535803
I'm so tired of people posing in front of graves because "graveyards so goffick". Show some fucking respect.

>>8536036
seriously, fuck her image. Gah, she just rubs me the wrong way. At first I just thought she was a decent coorder and I enjoyed seeing her outfits. After the whole LACE thing and this shit, I just want to punch her in the face.
Dude get over yourself. /rant

>>8529193
>boobs spilling out everywhere
What is she doing? Why? Is she some sort of elaborate troll, or?

>>8536039
Once she actually employs some sort of creativity in her coords, cuts her bangs properly instead of pinning it back / cutting them into broom straws, and cuts back on her thirst for fame and relevance, I think Kate could be a decent lolita.

Shame that'll never happen.

>>8535803
I hate seeing her in gothic. It really doesn't suit her and she looks horrible.

>>8536038
>>8536021
>>8535803
>tfw I tried to argue the same point about posing in cemeteries a couple months ago
>got bashed to bits for it

Probably because it was in an Ero thread?

>>8536163
prople have been bashing cemetary posing since the days of getoffegl. you probably just hit a flock of extra salty seagulls.

>>8535973
Still. When you look at major tea parties in Japan you don't see the amount o try-hards you see in the US.
Seriously this is a trend that began in the west and it needs to stop.

>>8536163
Well one anon said something about Victorian park like cemeteries. Which is fine. If everyone's been dead way too long for someone remember.

>>8536021
>>8536038

I sometimes wished cemeteries were used more often by the public than just burying the dead. In the 1800s, cemeteries in the United States were the only green space that people could go to and relax from the societal ills of the city. There weren't any funds to construct public parks at the time.

>>8536169
i guess part of the way to help stop it is to give more attention to simpler coords, by liking, sharing, and commenting on them while ignoring the OTT disasters.

i have been focused on simple coords lately and tend to only post simpler coords i like from CoF here (like pic related; nothing flashy but i want to see more like this!)

>>8536176
though it looks in need of an iron.

pic related is plus sized done well.

>>8536169

I think that's because Japanese girls like to let the dress do the work; Westerners like to accessorise more. I don't see it as tryhard, just differing tastes. Honestly, I can't really grasp why people are so bothered by other people choosing to accessorise more than others. If it's not your style it's not like it's making your coords look bad by comparison or anything.

>>8536179
this style of braids looks great in country and i want to see it tried in other styles also

>>8533431
Blouse looks a little tight, and the lace placement on the socks is kind of weird. Other than that this is pretty cute thought, I like seeing more wearable coords like this.

>>8536180
Maybe if you're judging Western lolitas by current trends only.

>>8536179
Fucking adorable. Kinda wish that the shoes were brown instead of mint, but that's a big nitpick.

This doesn't look that great but I actually really like it in a ghostworld-whatever kind of way.

>>8535248
Most of her wardrobe if not all is offbrand. I think she does fantastic things with it.

>>8536282
I'm not into sweet but I think it's great. Simple and cute.

>>8536282
i really like it. It's simple like oldschool but updated and cute.

>>8536174
I assume it's just because no one wants to go use a place where hundreds or thousands of people are lying there dead. When that was your only option it doesn't seem bad.
I don't disagree with going to cemeteries to relax, get away from it all, or just reflect.
Kate using it as a way to propel her goth coords is just terrible though.

>>8536282
Ah, I love this. This kind of outfit is why I fell in love with lolita in the first place.

I really like this, too. Like what people have been saying, not an OTT monster - just simple and cute and lolita.

>>8536163
People are just sandy about it because it's Kate. I personally don't think it's a big deal, especially because she's posing in front of what looks like old structures. I doubt anyone visits them anymore.

>>8536303
Kek I remember back in the day when everyone was desperate to get rid of this

>>8535790
Normally I would agree with you, anon, but when you RSVP for a formal party or dance or whatever in non-lolita clothing, most people are going to go all out. You wouldn't attend a gala in a sundress. It's the same basic idea, and kind of expected at this point, so useless to get bent out of shape over it.

Though I seriously don't know what the fuck that girl in the ill-fitting DDC salo was thinking. Why the fug as shit 90s trolls?

I personally think that OTT is just another style. So what if the japanese lolitas don't do it? We don't have to be damn japanophiles and think "would a kawaii japanese rorita wear this coord?" everytime we get dressed. If you don't like OTT don't wear it. Don't get salty because people like to go all out for certain outfits.

>>8536435
Different anon, but chiming in here - I think going OTT for certain events makes absolute sense, such as brand tea parties or even just conventions. But for the more casual meetups it seems a little silly, and ends up making things feel like a contest of who can create the most OTT outfit with the most brand...

>>8536179
But she isn't plus sized it's just a weird angle. Look at her other pics.

>Did some experimenting today and ended up with an ero/Alice coord.

>ero/Alice coord

>... plz no

>>8536530
Okay I can't type ignore the third arrow I just woke up

>>8536530
I honestly love the IDEA of this for an ero coord, but this is a poor execution.

>>8536163
i'm in the "they're dead anyway" team and i don't feel like doing anything to a tombstone that isn't actual aggression (like pissing on it or breaking it) is disrespectful, so i'm always kind of baffled at the number of seagulls that get really salty when some poor kid (not talking about kate only, obviously) has the gals to pose in front of a tombstone.
i understand why some people wouldn't like the meaning of it or do it themselves, but it's purely a matter of belief, and other people are under no obligation to share yours. this feels a bit too close to tumblr mentality of "if it's offensive to me, it should be to everybody" to sit well with me, honestly.

>>8536530
there's really nothing that screams alice here beside the color scheme, if even.

>>8536179
What a QT

>>8536303
I really hate that dress and I can't decide why

>>8535991
For outdoors, yes it would.

>>8537162

Burials/tombstones are fucking expensive, man. Even if you are not actually touching it, I pay to get my dead a nice resting place, not so you can take pictures there.

>>8535095
Unfortunately this isn't a very flattering photo but I didnt take many (my mistake) so it had to do. I originally purchased a sweet dreamer headbow to match but it came in and was such utter junk I canned it. There wasnt enough time to re-order something else so I made do with those spiral hair accessories in the shape of stars.

As for the comments gold wasnt a prominent color in the jsk, it most certainly is in person, there's foil stars smattering the entire dress. This is one of the worst coords to photo as many things just dont pick up like they do in person.

Attached is the details. (Blouse was changed but still relatively similar)

>>8531850
Exactly as it says on the label, shit photo shop. This hair colour looks like those shitty asian burnt orange yellow hair colour who can't dye for shit.

Anyone ever thought, “it's the UK, the weather 'twas shit & cloudy, of course her face wasnt going to radiate!” or maybe she wants to look like her natural self but with Lolita Oomph?

>>8537162
It's about respect and common decency for other people, particularly the loved one's families. I could say I don't find peeing in public offensive but most people would agree that's generally common decency not to do.

As another anon said, it's one thing if it's a graveyard from like, the 1800's or older as generally they now only get visited for purposes of educational or recreational use, but in a more modern graveyard it's just rude.

>>8537663
>This hair colour looks like those shitty asian burnt orange yellow hair colour who can't dye for shit
mte, I hate that color.