/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8529143
>>What's your favourite Oldschool feature?
those crisscross ribbons on sleeves

>>Favourite coord/street snap?
ah difficult, I like so many, but this one is quite nice

>>Dream Oldschool piece?
Elizabeth OP in red x white. Once got in a bid war for one, but decided I should spend so much money at that time. now I just save and hope baby will put it up for reserve next year

My favorite oldschool feature is hard to describe. It's more like the vibe of the whole thing. Lolitas then didn't just wear plastic and tulle. They looked like actual dolls.

I like most oldschool coords. The black shoes with light colored outfits always bothered me, though. That was from a lack of available matching shoes, though, I suspect, and might not have been desired.

Dream old school piece? Pic related. I love red with white, and this is about as old school as it gets without being too campy. Also, most old velvet pieces by Cornet and AP.

>>8529335
I feel like the only one who doesn't hate an outfit being paired with black shoes, I agree it was probably from a lack of availability of other colors but I think black shoes look fine with any outfit that isn't shiro.

I kinda miss the days before colored shoes were an option, though I do think that colored shoes can be cute too. Simple black or white shoes with an outfit will always be my preference though.

>>8529335
Also a lot of japanese lolitas still used their natural black hair back then, that matched nicely with the black shoes.

>>8529864

>What's your favourite Oldschool feature?
Pintucks and cross ribbons at the neeckline
>Favourite coord/street snap?
>Dream Oldschool piece?
Baby heart apron. I've always wanted one but I know I'd never wear it out.

>>8529839
I love outfits paired with black shoes it gives a coord that last touch of a grounded oldschool feeling.

>>8529335
Black shoes with red outfits are my fav, but other wise yeah

>What's your favourite Oldschool feature?
runs of lace down the front of the dress, or black x white in general, but done well.
>Favourite coord/street snap?
Pic related
>Dream Oldschool piece?
Again, pic related. For some reason on lolibrary they don't have the black x white stock photo

>>8529973
Damn, I want this dress now. What's the brand/name?

>>8529170
This dress is beautiful!

>>8530182
it's just called "pintuck jsk 2003" but here's the lolibrary link
>http://lolibrary.org/apparel/pintuck-jsk-2003

>>8530295
forgot to mention, its old school btssb

>What's your favourite Oldschool feature?
Peeking bloomers, platformed shoes, ringlets, creepy doll vibes, emphasis on pattern design and textures, less nitpicking on matching

>Favourite coord/street snap?
I love the picture of the girl on the far left.

>Dream Oldschool piece?
That tartan jsk in the image, also: Metamorphose Pintuck Tiered jsk in all colorways

>What's your favourite Oldschool feature?

These cross strap things. They're so difficult sometimes but I love them!
>Favourite coord/street snap?
That all back coord that popped up everywhere

>Dream Oldschool piece?
Momoko's pink Babyssb OP from Kamikaze Girls.

A lot of old school pieces don't have listed measurements on lolibrary or hello lace, I was wondering what the average measurements for non shirred and partial shirred pieces would be?

I know non shirred skirts are normally around 64cm Waist but I can't find much information about jsks.

>>8529973
hey, that's me! it really is a lovely piece.

>>8530321
I think the max bust most of the time would be around 88cm. I once had a non laced oldschool btssb jsk, and it was at least 10cm too big on me (I've a 76cm bust), so I think that would be a decent guess.

>>8530321
My reaaaally old pieces tend to be like 86-88 bust mid 70s waist. I thought 86 would be small but it's fine? Perhaps I measured myself wrong)
I'm a s-m (size 4 USA?) And they fit me perfectly. For reference I actually have a large chest but a small ribcage so take that.into consideration (i know some girls complained about them sitting awkwardly on larger frames). As a tall girl the ones (ops) I own actually have a better length than modern dresses too. I find OPs more forgiving than jsks. Skirts are a no-go for me generally. Shirred is ok but not as comfy, I like high cut dresses or some room in the waist. Tight waist stuff feels awkward. Arms are pretty small on them if that's an issue for you.

>>8530682
Oh and that's unshirred baby. Partially shirred ancient mm juuust fits now that I fained weight. It was fine before.

>>8530295
Thanks! Unfortunately, there are no measurements on there, so I'll have to wait until it goes for sale somewhere (and I can ask the seller) to know whether to buy. If it shows up at all; not sure how rare it is.

>>8530844
I have the dress and I can give you measurements if you want

>>8530858
Oh, cool! What are the max bust and waist measurements? Thanks!

I have a lot of other oldschool stock pics in one of my photobuckets, but i'm not sure if anyone is interested in having them posted?

Dress in pic is Cornet.

>>8530872
it has a 68cm waist and 82cm bust unstretched. it has partial shirring, so I would say you can add about 5 to 7cm to these measurements.

>>8530875
would love to! I'm just building my oldschool folder, so more pics are always appreciated.

Tartan jumperskirt by Meta. (Name?? Sorry, some of these are before I labeled the entries.)

>>8530877
Yeah, probably can't fit that. But thank you!

Velveteen 3 frilled dress by Meta. (I might have liked red a little.)

Ye olde AP.

>>8530910
The same in wine red.

Bonnet saved off of a looooong extinct Y!J auction. It was saved to AP, but i'm actually not sure since theremis no visible tag.

>>8530890
ah, that's a shame

A classic by BABY

Shitty photo of BABY's Elizabeth OP in black x white.

maybe a bit borderline oldschool, but I'm just a sucker for tartan

This cutie was by an indie brand called Jack Rabbit.

>>8530962
Is that by And Romeo? It is so cute! I'm not sure how their quality is, though. Sorely tempted.

>>8530966
I guess that's the brand indeed! want to make a dress inspired by it soon

More Cornet.

I only somehow saved a pic of the back

Old school will always seem so much more practical and wearable. Lolita today looks out of place outside of a con.

I still want this thing like 5 colors. So freaking cute.

>>8531003
I agree.

Pic related is probably my most lusted after oldschool set. It will never not be stylin', and it will never be mine.

>What's your favourite Oldschool feature?
Chunky black shoes, ladder lace, peeking bloomers

>Dream Oldschool piece?
I haven't done that much research on old pieces so at the moment I really just want any sort of BxW jsks, like the btssb babydolls.

Saw this appear on yahoo auctions a while back in a different colorway that looked like ass in comparison. So close. So far.

I still own this bag. I swear it's indestructible.

>>8530321
Lots of oldschool VM and JetJ tend to have a waist of around 60-64cm and bust no bigger than 86-88cm. Older MM tends to have a waist of ~65cm and bust ~86cm. Innocent World's sizing has pretty much stayed the same over the years from my experience.

>>8531003
I agree with this so much and its the reason I can't get into OTT or modern Lolita. For me Lolita was suppose to be a fashion that I could actually wear regularly that would look like I popped out of an old story book or a time machine without being hard to wear or looking or feeling too much like a costume.

Out of curiosity, how many people who are interested in old school also interested in the old lifestyle stuff? It seems like it used to be a bigger thing than it is now, so I would guess a lot of people who are interested on one are also interested in the other to at least some degree.

>>8531041
I'm definitely interested in older lifestyle stuff but I hear differing info on what it actually is, do you have a link to a guide of some sort?

>>8531048
There's a lifestyle thread right now, but I have a few links!

Parfaitdoll did a few well done articles about it, IMHO.

http://www.parfaitdoll.com/2009/09/so-you-think-you-want-to-be-a-lifestyle-lolita.html

http://www.parfaitdoll.com/2009/07/lifestyle-misconceptions.html

There's also one from Skye back in the day but it currently won't load on the wayback. I'll post a link if I can get it working.

I know that I've seen more than that, but I can't think of them offhand.

>>8531003
This. The wigs really kill it for me. That's not to say I don't enjoy seeing photos of modern lolita, but it really looks odd to me in real life. Even at a con it just seems to sway more on the costumey side of things.

>>8531127
That's why I use my natural hair. I don't have anything against them, but I feel like I'm wearing a costume when I wear wigs. Currently growing it out, might learn how to style it sometime for fancier hairstyles.

>>8531110
I cant post links, it thinks I'm spam, but if you go to princessportal on the wayback and go to an older date where the "writings" option is, go there and go to the newest date available and you should be able to see any of her writings. She has a few on lifestyle and related topics.

To keep it relevant to old-school, besides the fact the lifestyle thing is pretty old-school of course, I love all the cotton crochet lace that got used in older pieces. The tulle and net lace with the little pictures and things woven in that they use now is cute, but nothing looks more maiden and luxurious like than soft, thick cotton lace.

>>8531127
>>8531133
I always hated wigs personally because it does make it feel more costume like. Nothing against girls who do wear them though. I have really thin hair but I still prefer it to wearing a wig.

>>8531133
Not the anon you're replying to, but I've also started using my own hair with Lolita, and it feels so much better. I used to wear wigs almost all the time with Lolita, about three times a week or more, and I ended up hating my own hair because I'd deluded myself with the "perfect" look of the wigs I was wearing and began nitpicking my own hair.
I'm growing mine out too at the minute as I cut it about shoulder-length after Christmas, but I feel so much better since I stopped wearing them so often, both physically (wigs can hurt something wicked), and mentally.

>>8531110
Thank you very much for the links!

>>8529143
>>What's your favourite Oldschool feature?
the attitude. it wasn't about being perfectly coordinated and kawaii, there was something more rebellious and self-expressive. it was also way more wearable in daily life!

also ringlets and other doll-like features other anons have mentioned.

>>Favourite coord/street snap?
well, it's barely lolita by current standards, but pic related.

>>Dream Oldschool piece?
don't have one really

>What's your favourite Oldschool feature?
The velvet, I'm so obsessed, it feels so thick and solid, like it'll last another 40 years.

>Favourite coord/street snap?
I love all black pieces, I have a harder time liking dresses with a lot of white trimming, but I get it. I'm trying to go less cute, more elegant, and to find things I could possibly get away with wearing to work without drawing toooo much attention to myself, with all black I feel it's a little easier to do that.

>Dream Oldschool piece?
Anything gobelins, I'm slightly too big for most VM and it's absolutely heart breaking.

>What's your favourite Oldschool feature?
Peeking bloomers and the massive clunky shoes

>Favourite coord/street snap?
This one

>Dream Oldschool piece?
Does and old Usakumya count?

I wish I had my old files available on my phone, there doesn't seem to be much on my old photo bucket.

Anon from a few threads back that is collecting as many oldschool pics as possible, I uploaded all my findings so far to imgur, thought some people might appreciate it. There are probably quite a few doubles since I had things saved to two different computers, and have been too lazy to sort through them all yet. Also they were all sorted by colour, but newer additions are not in the correct place, sorry.

http://imgur.com/a/ij8db

Aaaand that's all my photobucket holds. I'll see if I can dig up some files later.

>>8531612
never mind, lets do some more right now!

would it be possible to diy an oldschool jsk out of a plain black jsk using quality lace?

>>8532003
that really depends on the cut and general design anon, why not post a pic for some suggestions?

>>8531659
These are amazing anon, I haven't seen some of these pics in an age and some of them I've never seen at all. You are doing the lord's work.

>>8532009
excuse the potato quality & lack of a blouse. I'm planning on adding a ruffle or something to the bottom anyway, it's a little too short. I had to hike my petti up for this photo, sorry if it looks weird, the dress is like 1 1/2 inches shorter than my petti

I just received this in the mail, such a lucky find. It was <50$ shipped. Needs a bit of TLC, but I can't wait to coord it! I haven't worn lolita in almost 5 years, this is so exciting.

>>8532831
oh wow, congrats anon! please post pics when you can

i won this a few days ago, hopefully i can pull it off

>>8531604
Thank you so much anon! Can't wait to go through these.

>>8532076
It has a nice shape but the pleated parts of the skirt are quite unusual in lolita fashion (although not unheard of) and tend to be seen on more on classic pieces.

Other than the ruffle, what changes were you thinking of making? Did you want to use black or white lace? What material is your jsk?

I think something like pic related would look good if the material's not cotton, slightly sheer ruffles etc. I recommend looking at some simple moi meme moitie pieces for inspiration, I think the style in general would lend itself to a jsk like yours.

>>8531604
bless u. I hope you find a sum of money on the ground.

pulled pic related out from anon's glorious collection, I just love the dark cream and reddish brown combo and the lace peaking over the boots.

love the slightly creepy doll look of even some of the classic ensambles

I love this set so much, it's a really unusual color combination too. sadly I've never seen it come up for sale.

>>8533307
it's not actually pleated, i just falls that way a bit, like the pic you posted. I was thinking like adding white lace like >>8529973, also the ruffle there too. And as for the fabric, it's like a thick cotton. It's got some pilling I need to take care of before I do anything though.

how do you find old school pieces on LM? People say they're usually cheaper than newer stuff but I can't even find any.

>>8534199
I check LM religiously and I don't see much good oldschool stuff on there tbh. And in the rare case, some good stuff pops up it sells within an hour or it is overpriced. You should stick to Japanese second hand market, it is full of oldschool and you will find something nice in a matter of days.

>>8534193
thanks for the clarification anon, I think you would be best being fairly restrained with the white lace and not adding perhaps as much as in the in the image you linked to. Something more along the lines of pic related would be the most complimentary in my opinion.

>>8534238

I bought an oldschool AP dress sometime back, I can't fully decide how to wear it. I've been hunting down street snaps or coords, but have found next to nothing.

It's the velvet OP in the top right hand corner.

>>8534244
If only those waist ties were removable.

>>8534199
Don't bother, it's usually marked way the hell up so it's generally not worth it.

http://page11.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/n146198971

Wasn't someone looking for this in the last thread? It's super cheap.

Momokos dresses from Kamikaze Girls. I love that rose printed JSK on the lower left.

>>8534494
Second on the bottom right, does anyone know what it is?

>>8534524
No idea, but isn't that the dress she wears at the cafe or wherever while reading and listening to Strauss? Hnnnggg

bump

>>8534524
I heard it was made specially for the movie, sadly for us.

>>8533913
Saw the skirt on eBay a few months ago.

>>8535769
fuuuuuuuuuu

Well shit, I guess it's out there somewhere.

>>8534494
I don't recognise the dress on the top right at all, what part of the film is it from?

what would your opinion be on an indie brand focussing on oldschool lolita?

>under what conditions would you buy oldschool from an indie brand instead of (secondhand) brand? (price, colors, type of items, location, sizing, construction)

>>8537407
The scene where she's asking her dad for money. She also has a dark brown wig on in the scene.

I'm still trying to find her sun dresses with no luck.

>>8537415
It would have to be very, very good, considering that a lot of brand still (at least partially) cater to old-school looks.
Price and quality would be factors, but so would original designs. If you'd be making things that are ~heavily inspired~ by oldschool brand pieces, I'd rather stick with what I know is quality.

Do you have anything in the way of a sample piece, like a headdress or even something small like that? I know I've probably sounded negative until now, but if it's good, and not starting out at brand+ prices, I'd give it a look.

>>8537415
There isnt enough interest to really make a brand out of it. Oldschool stuff is generally cheap to get because it isnt that popular, so the pricing would be competitive to that which is not good for you. It will be hard to charge those low prices and match the quality. Then without a general interest beyond that niche substyle you would barely be able to make any money.

>>8537434
the tote is made by me. also made this headdress. I figured it won't be possible to get a living out of it, but more as a side thing

>>8530889
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/sweet-heart-jsk
Sweet Heart JSK

>>8537465
but what if the indie brand had more flexible sizing like the brands do now?
sizing wasnt that flexable back then

>>8533913
I've seen pieces from the same series pop up on y! once in a while, but never the set.

is anyone able to identify the name and release year of this jsk? I trawled all the databases and still couldn't find it.

Will absolutely love you forever if you can help.

>>8537944
sorry, just to add, it's btssb.

>>8529335
lashy and acchirin did a review of kamikaze girls and said that the girl who wore this dress was the "mother of old school lolitas"

>>8537953
>explaining kamikaze girls
>doesn't post a link
summer fag detected

>>8535703
hnnng those pintucks

>>8535703
I like most old school dresses but that one is ghastly.

...old school???

>>8537944
Sapphire jsk from 2005, it's on hello lace with the blue version on show.

http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r129231915

This was my dream oldschool piece (BTSSB babydoll jsk in all black) but I'm broke right now, so maybe someone else wants it! It's on Wunderwelt..

>>8538892
Not with tea parties you're not.

>>8537515
Being flexible is great but it wont make up for the lack of people wanting this style. Making a brand is a business, you need to look to where the money is.

>>8538892
Cardigans are supposed to be worn over a blouse though, and not tucked in a skirts waistband.
A nice peter pan collar would polish this look.
These shoes look off, like anon >>8539914 said. I think white platform heels or rhs would look better and more old school.
I don't like the socks over the opaque tights either. Either the tights or the socks need to go.

>>8534494
dokidoki

>>8539914
>>8539951
this isn't me, but I was really confused. I didn't think that was actually oldschool? But, I do own that skirt but in purple. Could I try an oldschool coord with it? What else should i wear?

>>8540793
IMO, I don't think the skirt really suits the style. Lavender wasn't really popular or even visible at all in the old days. Even apart from the colour, it's sort of a Meta knock-off and funnily enough the original would work better for oldschool.

>>8540803
Whoops, forgot the image.

>>8540803
Yeah, I thought so. I really only bought it for casual coords anyway. Btw, what meta skirt is it a knock off from? I'm kinda curious now.

>>8540807
>>8540809
ah. huh, I prefer the meta tbh.

>>8540811
Same, it's a really nice jsk design. I like the pic related version too. It's very busy with the dots, but I think that's part of why I like it so much.
>still don't know how I've come so far without buying a dress from meta

>>8540813
There is no hope for me.

speaking of bodyline, could this jsk in black x white work for oldschool?

>>8540807
is this the same design but in skirt version or am i blind?

>>8540817
I'd be wary of the lace, anon. It looks a bit thin and netty, similar to what was on a dress I got from them once. Black on black, it's fine enough, but in white it looks really cheap in person.
If you're looking for something oldschool from Bodyline, pic related is actually really lovely in person, and I believe it's the same price as the one you shared.

>>8540821
It's the very one!

>>8539569
Ah, thank you so much anon! You have no idea how happy this has made me. Loving you forever for reals.

Not sure what the best thread to ask this in is so I thought is try asking here first.

I wear simple Lolita outfits and a lot of them have an old-school edge to them. I have IBS and petticoats are hard for me to wear a lot of times. I was wondering if anyone knew if there were some bloomers out there that would provide just enough poof to keep from looking flat, that way I could skip the petticoat altogether. All the bloomers I own right now I hand made, but I have very limited sewing skills and they are very sloppy and I don't know if I could make some sort of poofy bloomers on my own.

Sorry if this didn't come out right or sounds like it's worded strange, I'm tired and it's close to my bedtime.

>>8541240
Oops, forgot to mention I am going for causal level poof, obviously I know a pair of bloomers isn't going to get my skirts filled out, but I was just wondering if there were any bloomers out there with enough poof to work for casual and older styled outfits where you don't need much poof.

>>8540815
I bought this for $30 earlier this year, it's gorgeous

>>8541240
I'm a bit confused by this I must admit, aren't a lot of bloomers just as tight in the waist as the waistband of a petticoat? I have IBS trouble too so I just buy petticoats that have a slightly larger waistband so that they don't feel tight at all and sit just bellow my natural waist (not low enough to spoil the line of any clothes though).

found this on mbok going for 3000yen. someone please pick it up and do it some glorious oldschool justice.

>>8537415
You would make pocket money if you made old school totes and what not. Everyone always focuses on headdresses or dresses, but never bags

What shoes would you recommend for old school? I know the consensus is RHS and platform mary janes, I mean specific models, though.
Would pic related be ok in a black/black x white gothic coord? I already have them because of my gothfag stuff.

>>8541933
I didn't know they were just as tight, I made mine myself and I guess I had a brain fart. I loosened the elastic in my petti but it's so much trouble since it slips around now and its a little poofier than I'd like.

Yeah sorry for the stupid question.

>>8542029
I like these, I think they could work with an old school gothic look. Platforms were pretty popular for old school gothic lolita.

>>8542029
My girlfriend has these and they look fine with her coords. They're super heavy though, just as a warning!

>>8542011
ah, I could do that! thanks!

I can't really walk in platforms, so I was wondering if normal mary janes would work in oldschool? I have these in black with glossy finish.

I want to start with lolita and just jump straight into old school. Because old school can quickly look ita when done wrong, are there any pitfalls I should look out for or any tips?

>>8542595
keep away from cheap stuff, keep things basic and don't go for any crazy meta designs (that's hard mode old school). choose a 2 color outfit, with basic items. and use a decent petticoat. buy something that fits you and suits your body type. try to find a cheap secondhand brand mainpiece and if you want, you can add bodyline items and other brands to it. an example: offwhite blouse (would recommend bodyline L076 / P295), Baby or AP JSK in sax/offwhite or pink/offwhite or black/offwhite, offwhite UTK or OTK, rectangle headdress or headbow in same color combo of the JSK, offwhite clunny lace wristcuffs (when short sleeve blouse) and offwhite shoes for pastel base colors or black shoes for black base

>>8542442
I personally find the matt color a better option, but depends on the other items of your outfit. the shoe design will work for oldschool.

>>8542595
>Don't look sloppy. This is a general for all lolita but I see it a lot in oldschool. Esp pay attention to your headdress and make sure it's sitting right.
>not every black x white thing is old school. A lot of milanoo-tier dresses LOOK oldschool when in fact they are trash. Use discretion.
>For god sakes, wear proper shoes. Tea parties were not around back then. Look for RHS or Mary Janes.
>Hair. Do some research on what was popular back then and pick a good style that works. Not everything will.
>Now this is my personal preference, but don't over-accessorize. It looks dumb. OTT didn't really exist back then either.
That's all I can think of rn, hope this helps!

>>8542624
Ahh okay. I had the matte, but the buckle broke and they were out of my size in the matte when I went to replace them. They're my everyday go-to-shoe so I wear them a lot.

is this hairstyle okay in oldschool?

>>8542667
it's not common, but the pic itself is oldschool, so it could work

>>8541935
The image says gobelin, is it though? It seems more like corduroy from the pics. What's the actual name of this piece, or is it shown in any edition of the glb?

>>8543997
they're calling it 'gobelin print', I really don't know any more than that, the number in the original pic is its item number on mbok.

Looks like pretty regular cotton to me?

>>8544315
scratch that, I see it now, I'd say 'light corduroy' as well

Does anyone know where i can buy peeking bloomers? Or would it be easier to make my own?

>>8545024
I bought some from Little Dipper on Taobao, but it looks like they're sold out. But it looks like Infanta has some now. You can also try searching "南瓜裤" on Taobao.

>>8545024
>>8545044
"Cat Tea Party" on Taobao is also selling some, but I have never ordered from this store and cannot vouch for it.

>>8545024
fanplusfriend have several types of long bloomers, they actually seem pretty decent.

pic related are currently on special offer for 15 dollars

>>8541935
this is so gorgeous, it would look glorious with cream peaking bloomers and/or lace frill socks

>>8542683
I think if you keep bangs in tact then you should be good

>>8540815
Ahhh dammit. You just made my wishlist grow. My wallet is already crying.

Does anyone know any details about this JSK?
It's a nice velveteen piece by AP, but I have no clue if it has a name or when it was released.

>>8538892
This isn't old school. The tea parties aren't old school, and idk why she's wearing a cardigan as a blouse. She's also wearing ankle socks over tights and the more I look at this the more ita it becomes

>>8546892
velveteen? I have to say, it really doesn't look it from the pictures

>>8546902
Yeah I was doubtful as well, but I actually have it in person and the design is exactly the same as the stock picture.
Unless they released a non-velveteen version?

>>8546892
>>8546909
You have the stock pic but no name? Also I know brands used to do do velveteen versions of popular basic cuts (see: that one boxy baby jsk that always goes cheap, or their babydoll jsk) but that one is probably velveteen, even now days their stock pics kinda suck.

>>8546913
Yeah, I found the stock pic from https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xqx0b58yvczr9hs/AAB3qwxahZ-ua7JCl5uXCWbYa?dl=0
which a gull kindly uploaded a while back

Pic related is actual dress

>>8546943
Holy shit anon, that is beautiful and 100x nicer than the stock pic jsk in my opinion. I wonder if you have something genuinely quite rare there.

I tried to search for it as well using all the methods I know but no luck. The case continues..

>>8546949
Aw thanks for searching anyway anon, I appreciate the effort!
I guess it will remain a mystery for now

I'm still requesting old-school photo-shoots, if anyone has any good ones.

There's nothing I love more than the photo-shoots from back in the day. I was so inspired by them.

>>8547857
Here's another from this shoot. I always liked seeing lolitas out in nature.

>>8547857
Do ones from a magazine count?

>>8548339
I was hoping more for non magazine shoots, but I appreciate those too!
I was always more fascinated with seeing "real" lolitas more than the ones in magazines.

everytime I browse hellolace I start to feel so nostalgic, wish the creativity in design would come back

Lauran has uploaded a few small videos from Harajuku around the oldschool area if anyone is interested.

https://youtu.be/Kl5iwPaddk0

>>8549860
this was pretty cool. I've heard that there isn't really an outdoor social gathering of lolitas any more and hasn't been one for several years?

>>8545024
Elegy sells long bloomers in black and in white that are really nice! I just got some, although be aware the lace on the white is a bit more cream against the white, still is nice though.

Does anyone have any photos of coords with aprons? I have three and I'd love to wear them but I'm at a loss as to what neckline type looks best.

So I just picked up some old school IW and I'm finding the elastic on the sleeves are digging into me a bit, I'm guessing I'll have to take it in for alterations, but I'm really nervous letting anyone handle them.

>>8551472
Seems like it's usually a big white lacy collar.

I'm getting so pissed off with itas slapping the "oldschool" label onto any half-assed coord they put together. It's weird to see people in the fashion so out of touch with what is and isn't oldschool.

>>8545111
I have these in white and black and they are great for peeking and yes, very affordable. And comfy

>>8552375
I think it takes a good while to start noticing all the little details that make up old school, like you need old school goggles. I donno, I remember what it was like not understanding what separated a modern black jsk from an older black jsk, it takes time and some people just get way too ahead of themselves without looking where they're going.

>>8552446
True, I was thinking of doing a post about it, but I feel like I might have rambled about Oldschool enough for a while. In a few weeks I might put up something of a "spot-the-difference" for older-style and modern pieces. When I started seeing the little things that were different, it all started falling into place.

a girl can dream

>>8552375
Yeah. I really hate "modern" oldschool as well. Apparently sticking RHS and a new style rectangle headdress is "oldschool inspired" now

What is your guys' opinion on this jsk? I really like it but I'm worried it might be too yellow for my skin tone, I'm a bit of a light olive.

>>8552466
I see these on LM all the time, just have to keep a close eye.

>>8552605
I must be blind af

I just got the greatest old school haul in the mail today, it's like the greatest feeling, these are the best dresses I've ever had, I've been literally burying my head in my dresses today, the quality is so good, I've always been disappointed by my purchases up till now ahhhhhh.

>>8552544
Beautiful jsk anon, I honestly love it.

Since it's quite low cut and won't be directly near your face, you may find that there's enough space between your blouse and the jsk to make it work. You may also find that tailoring your make-up can help colors that aren't necessarily the most flattering work a bit better for you.

If you can find a blouse in that cornflower blue shade that would probably look really good if the other options still aren't working. Your best bet would probably be vintage clothing outlets if say taobao etc doesn’t turn up anything.

>>8552708
can we get pics anon?

>>8549860
I prefer laid back, outdoors meetings than these high tea parties or other expensive meets that everyone fawns today. It gives lolita a more street and rebellious vibe, than a fancy costume party.
But now i want to ask a question.... there are some Taobao listings of old school styled jsks in blackxblack? I can't find anything simple, only busy designs and modern lolita prints.

Can anyone ID this skirt? I can't seem to. It's on CC right now and I think it's beautiful, even with the couple of stains it has. I can't afford it right now but if it's still around when I can I think I'm going to get it. It looks old, but I don't know if it really is or not.

>>8556228
http://hellolace.net/wardrobe/baby-the-stars-shine-bright/type/skirt/item/121/

Wish Lolibrary was up right now, but this will have to do. Just so you know, copying the title of the item and pasting it into Lolibrary or HelloLace will often turn up the item in question.

What old school pieces are you guys currently looking for?

>>8556453
I never realized how much I used Lolibrary until the site went down.

Thank you so much for this though, I felt like I was looking all over to find the name of the skirt and couldn't get any results. I never thought of pasting the Japanese name into the Lolita database itself, I always just paste it into Google and see if I can get it to turn up that way.

Not sure if the waistband is my size but now that I have a name I should be able to figure it out. Thanks again!

Favorite thing was all the bustles, tartan, and stripe socks.
Pic was my dream dress, caught her 2 years ago. Blue tartan that I like is so hard to find, but this is perfect

>>8556594
I usually hate tartan but this is really cute. Nice taste.

>>8556466
baby's elizabeth OP in red x white. still saving for it though, hope I'll have enough by the time baby releases it again or when it pops up secondhand

>>8556622
I normally do hate tartan or at least super picky about the patterns.

Does anyone have any photos of old school school themed coords?
Thank you.

Also I was wondering how much of your lolita wardrobe is oldschool?

>>8557345
This year for me has been the year of the old school main pieces. I'm super picky about my dresses, I don't wear print unless it's floral and I generally stick to black, wine, or navy so that I can easily incorporate it into something more casual with the rest of my clothes. This year I've gotten my hands on 3 pieces that I fell pretty hard for with another on the way, and I love how cheap they are! My collection is pretty modest, probly 10 pieces tops which I aim to keep low as I also collect a lot of vintage clothing.

>>8557345
90% of my wardrobe is oldschool,with the rest being "modern" pieces that I love. I tend to buy a lot of ops/jsks but I'd love to snag some skirts to wear daily!

Where does everyone purchase their headbows? I've considered doing a taobao order but there don't seem to be many on the site. My headdress collection is getting out of hand atm and I need variety

>>8557713
try closetchild, they often have some baby headbows, like the cameron type

>>8557725
I have no clue why I didn't even consider closetchild...thank you anon!

>>8557713
I've purchased my old school headbows from Maiden Clothing. Wunderwelt and Grand Bazaar seem to stock a lot.

>>8557345
The shoes make it look a little modern but I thought this was cute.

I think more than a third of my wardrobe is old school. This year I've mostly bought old school pieces.

went through my wardrobe today and a question popped up when I saw my oldschool IW OP again.

>What's your first oldschool piece?

>>8548345
>>8549344
Ha-ha I remember when people used to always pose like that when sitting down - what was it again? (Broken) dolly pose?

>>8557345
My entire lolita wardrobe is old school, save for a skirt and a couple accessories. I plan on wearing the skirt in a very old school way, though It's not like I can wear it any other way with my wardrobe.

>>8558371
My first piece ever was old school, a replica of a 2005 AP JSK. I got it from a booth at a con and didn't know it was a replica until a while later. I still have it and, believe it or not, it's really nice. You wouldn't believe it's from a con booth if you saw it in person.

My initial thoughts on the pic related OP was that it looked like a rumpled trashbag however, I'm trying to see past it and think it may actually be very pretty in person. I have a feeling the pictures were taken with the flash on and so don't do it any justice at all.

It has some kind of rose-thread design running through it that looks quite pretty as well. Trouble is, I can't identify the name of the dress and going by the label, it's pretty old Angelic pretty. Any ideas on the name of this? I thought if anyone knows, it would be you glorious oldschool mofos here.

>>8560067

>>8560069
>>8560067
easy anon. AP changed it's name from pretty to angelic pretty in 2001, so it's older than 2001. found it on hellolace: http://hellolace.net/wardrobe/angelic-pretty/type/op/item/256/
Jacquard Organdy-Using OP. it should have detachable sleeves

>>8560096
I don't care what anyone else says, you guys are rad. Thank you so much.

>>8560269
no problem.

So here is my first old school haul I mentioned earlier in this thread. The one on the far right being my first, I absolutely love it, I have never loved anything lolita related as much as this. It comes with sleeves and a peter pan collar like the op in the center but black.

The far left, it looks like karami but with different straps in the shoulder style. A very dark navy blue with all blue lace trimming which I was really pleased to discover it wasn't black.

The center op appears to be part of a maid set and I'm not really quite sure what to do with it just yet, but I'm so excited that I got two pieces from the same season! It shares the exact same lace as the piece on the right.

So here is my first old school haul I mentioned earlier in this thread. The one on the far right being my first, I absolutely love it, I have never loved anything lolita related as much as this. It comes with sleeves and a peter pan collar like the op in the center but black.

The far left, it looks like karami but with different straps in the shoulder style. A very dark navy blue with all blue lace trimming which I was really pleased to discover it wasn't black.

The center op appears to be part of a maid set and I'm not really quite sure what to do with it just yet, but I'm so excited that I got two pieces from the same season! It shares the exact same lace as the piece on the right.

>>8560885
Amazing haul, seriously. I'm so jelly of the central OP too, it's like my ultimate oldschool dress - relatively understated but still distinctly lolita and a bit of Wednesday Addams thown in too. So perfect. Damn.

I have the same jsk, I picked it up on Y! auctions, I love it but I'm still not entirely happy with any of my coords for it, especially the blouses. How do you plan to wear it anon?

>>8561103
The central op is insanely long! I'm 5'6" and it comes just up above my ankles, I was seriously shocked, I was expecting something maybe more mid shin.

I know how you feel about the jsk, I was having a little trouble myself. I'm not exactly a purist though when it comes to old school looks as I'd like to wear it casually. I've tried it one way so far and it involves wearing a long black cardigan to calm the frill down a bit, a long sleeved sheer black blouse with an attached ascot, black patent oxfords, dark blue tights, and a gold necklace with charm, and no petti as this is something I'd want to wear to work hypothetically speaking. Basically lots of the same solid colors without piling on more detail than there already is.

>>8530182
I have something really similar in pink if you're interested!

>>8561373
That is incredible that is so very long anon. Nice haul and I hope you find a way too coord it all soon. Your taste is fantastic.

>>8561394
I'm broke right now, but thanks!

I was wondering, has anyone struck gold on Y! Auctions? What have been some of your best finds or bargains?

I'm currently stalking something that's sitting around the 2500 yen mark which seems way too good to be true. I'm half expecting a bidding war out of nowhere.

Pic unrelated, just one of my old school favourites.

>>8552346
I have a similar problem, except it's the opposite, too loose. I'd rather trust a professional to alter it instead of myself

>>8564723
it will probably be a bidding war, my luck is always shit with auctions, always ends up getting outbid

>>8556594
I have this in a similar color but slightly different. It's one of my dresses.

>>8564723
I snagged a very rare Btssb OP via BIN for 13000yen which goes for about 500$+ on the western market. Also some very nice IW blouses and boleros for under 4000yen. All via BIN though.

For the nicer stuff that starts at a ridiculously low price you can automatically expect a bid war, especially if it's on Y!auctions. On mbok there is a higher chance the item remains unnoticed since bidding on there is more difficult and less people bother with it.

>>8564926
Pardon my lack of knowledge, but what does BIN stand for?

>>8565022
"Buy it Now"

>>8565022
Buy it now

Cherry Ribbon is up on Y! auctions for 1,920 Yen with two days left. Borderline old school 2008 release I guess, but still has older style lolita charm I think.

>>8565497

Hey, sorry if this is a stupid question im still sort of a newbie? I wanted to know if these shoes (like the style of them) could be considered old school. I wanted a pair of rhs but bodyline is sold out in my size so i was looking at other options, thanks in advance!

>>8565827
The ones in the upper right feel super appropriate and are insanely cute, the other ones feel like a hybrid mesh, or am I wrong? They actually look a little bit more quality than the others too, let us know how they fit if you decide to go with them! I'm really curious.

>>8565841
Okay, thanks! Yeah i may get the right in black and the left in white so ill definitely update with how they fit!

>>8549344
This picture is ruined by the girl standing up. The girl in white has the perfect face/expression for her pose, but I don't know what red was thinking.

Mainly here to say how much I LOVE the plainer front panel in old school lolita. New lolita is all about what's going on under your cooch.

>>8540817
I think the lace looks like it will be fine quality, the bow looks like it may be bad though

I have IBS so some elasticted stuff in my waist or hips is unconfortable if the elastic is too tight. The BTSSB Karami skirt (100+cm waist) has a confortable elastic? Old school items at times are small but this finally seems ok. I'm 71 cm waist

Bloomer anon here. I was recommended the f+f bloomers and just got them in the mail. If anyone here is interested I could do a little review

>>8566250
yes please!

>>8564723
I have this OP and a velveteen skirt, I'm considering selling as I'm moving and it's rarely cold enough to wear (even though I love it)
Would people be interested in raiding my wardrobe? It's mainly oldschool.

I collect velvet old school pieces especially Meta so would be very interested. Do you happen to know the skirt measurement?

>>8565827
The ones on the left aren't very oldschool. The one's on the right definitely fit the aesthetic though

>>8566338
Yes holy fuck open the gates anon.

>>8566349
My phone is out of charge right now so I'll post pics when I deal with that but the skirt has shirring & lacing. Double rows of buttons close it, I repaired the buttons on it. It'd probably fit a 70cm waist max? Fits my ~68cm. Not sure of the year, it looks like that old one that came with a jacket. Was thinking to you around 50USD for the skirt maybe. My mum really likes it haha, it's just reaaaally short on me. Mid-thigh, but all skirts are like that.

>>8566361
What price were you thinking for the OP, anon?

>>8566360
>>8566360
A bit of it. It's pretty small, probably not as cool as I made it sound but I could cut you guys some ok deals. Just making back what I paid. Everything's in good-like new condition except for the black meta blouse which I ripped a bit due to being an idiot. For some reason rrh op in red seems to go for a bit on japanese auctions? But not as popular here. Old stock pics suck, they look nicer in real life, I'll post more later.

>>8566369
That picture of the skirt isn't mine btw! I don't store velveteen on clasp hangers!

>>8566367
Sorry to triple post, I didn't see your reply... $160-190?
I paid $160, then quite a bit for shipping.

Porn.
I tried saving as a png and it was 8mb so have a shitty jpeg
Ignore onigiri, it seemed funny at the time.

Fabric and lace texture on a 2001 baby dress.
I should have taken nicer pictures with my camera to share. Maybe I will another day.

Pin tucks
Baby uses such a nice red, I don't know why it looks so disgustingly orange in a lot of their stock pics. Except for 2006 for some reason.
I'll stop spamming now.

>>8566450
Damn anon, if I hadn't done a shopping spree I would be buying those 3 dresses and the skirt off of you right now.
So much regret.

>>8566412
Shit anon, that OP is gorgeous

How much for Chelsea jsk anon?

>>8566517
130? Idk
Is that fair? I didn't get a steal on it or whatever. The condition is good and nothing smells like grandma house since I hand wash and air them when I get them.
>>8566469
Thanks anon, I'm upset I never got any full body outfit pics. I wore it out only once, I might do one last coord and post it some time.

>>8531041
>Out of curiosity, how many people who are interested in old school also interested in the old lifestyle stuff?

I always saw the lifestyle as an excuse to play stay-at-home-trophy-wife and spend all the cash on brand dresses.

>>8531561
Misako looks so young~

>>8566532
Less detailed pieces aren't as fun to photograph on my phone. I always forget the detachable bow heh

>>8542029
I use these for some coords. I like the chunky feeling.

>>8564723
>>8566554
Meta approves of your shoe choices

I may take nicer pictures of the other dresses tomorrow. Pleats hate me.
Good night anons

>>8565497
Do you happen to have a link? I've searched through the Baby section with no luck,I'm guessing it's in the AP search?

>>8566593
Oops,disregard that comment I am blind

>>8566177
since it's fully elasticated, it should be fine with your measurements and not tight at all.

this dress in red tartan is my ultimate dream right now

>>8567659
I've never seen this one before but it's so freaking cute.

I've never hated an old school dress. I find something charming about even the ugly duckling dresses.

>>8567704
this will be the death of me

>>8566539
This is me right now, while looking for a jerb.

>>8566532
Damn, this is gorgeous, so gorgeous I don't think it'd ever leave my closet.

>>8567811
Sub-tropical climate breh
Though it does get cold enough sometimes, I just missed it. Honestly debating whether to keep it now. There's going to be a cold spell next week so I'll try it out then. I'll probably still get rid of some other stuff though so it's not all in vain. I'm just happy people liked the pictures.

>>8566539
Kek, wish i could be like that.I need to work and save for burando, engage in other "lolitable" hobbies, i'm not married nor in any relationship and no chance to have free cash from a partner. It's a bit egoistical for me depending on money to someone for buying burando.
>>8566450
Why i can't find a red cotton BTSSB jsk like this?? It's really hard, i only saw a velveteen one that i don't fit because no shirring.
>>8567109
I hope so anon!I try to wait if i can spot the jsk version and buy the skirt in case i can't find the dress version.

>>8530944
oh wow that's really pretty, nice taste anon

>>8532831
congrats on the great find! it looks gorgeous,

>>8541935
damn that's pretty, anon

So I just got this in the mail today and I love the skirt, but I never had any real intention on wearing the rest of the set as I'm older and it just doesn't suit my looks, would anyone here be interested in it? I'd rather sell them together, but am willing to break them up. It looks like they're both crazy rare, but I know it'd just sit in my closet otherwise.

>>8569584
How much were you wanting for them?

>>8565497
>>8565499
Did one of you gulls grab this? it went for the 1,920 yen starting bid. Someone got themselves one hell of a bargain.

>>8531021
I love this so much

>>8570335
$15 for the headpiece, $25 for the cape.

one more post

>>8571987
why did you do this?