/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Some of Utatane's yukata line

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Those all look lovely, I wish I could wear yukatas and kimonos without looking like your average white weeaboo.

>>8490270
Be stylish and now what you're doing and you will be ok.

120 bucks for a yukata is a bit much, but gosh I love that set.

What are the best sites to buy a cotton yukata? All I can find are made of nylon or polyester.

>>8490270
Have good hygiene, keep your look very toned down, wear natural looking makeup, and try to keep your look very traditional and understated.

If you avoid weeby elements or things that make it look like a cosplay (wigs in an unnatural color, cat ears, etc.), you should be fine.

Can anyone post a little tutorial/explanation on how to make a yukata? I need to make one for a cosplay soon and I'm kinda lost. Also, fabric choice? Thanks.

I found a vintage kimono set once at an antique store, and I still kick myself for not buying it because I didn't have money at the time.

Uniqlo has a Yukata collection right now and the prints are pretty cute, plus they have vids on how to wear them, if someone here feels like dabbling.

I need a Tsukikage yukata in my life. They have a pop up shop in Harajuku right now and everything is so awesome.

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Thanks, it's mostly an issue of where to wear it though. There aren't really things like japanese festivals around here and honestly I don't think I could handle the stares just wearing something like that outside, I live in a village so I really can't wear it there.

>>8491627
Use cotton. It is basically all straight lines. I am on the bus right now but I should have a pattern in a book. I'll take some photos of it for you when I get home.

>>8491672
not to be /that/ person, but you shouldn't wear it anywhere

wearing a culturally important traditional japanese garment as a fashion statement is literally cultural appropriation. It's kinda fucked up.

>>8491738
Says the white girl as she sips her on her Starbucks brand sugar water.

>>8491738
>wearing a culturally important traditional japanese garment as a fashion statement is literally cultural appropriation

Kimonos are literally fashion. They're meant to be worn.

>>8490270
>Those all look lovely, I wish I could wear yukatas and kimonos without looking like your average white weeaboo.
Don't listen to the other replies. No matter what you do, you're going to look weeb/cringy if you're a white person.

>>8491748
They're a fashion that has deep cultural roots. Even in Japan, it's only worn during certain traditional or important events. Parading around in one when it's not even apart of your heritage is wrong.

>>8491744
Hi, i'm a japanese-american.

>>8491785
Funny how japanese americans always have a problem with this when japanese living in japan are like "PLEASE WEAR OUR STUFF EVERYONE"

>>8491785
Sounds like you're still sipping that Starbucks and talking out of your ass.

>>8491800
Have you ever even been to japan?

Also, even if it did happen, it was probably from a store owner or somebody similar who was trying to sell a product, not the opinion of the majority of japanese people or society.

>>8491785
>japanese-american.
So an american with an identity crisis?

>>8491738
tumblr pls go

Ignore the segregationists and post kimono

>>8491785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwoSYWIgV9Y
Even if you're japanese american that doesnt mean you can speak for a country you're not even a native of.
Also deep cultural roots my ass. It was common wear at a point. We're not talking about dressing up like a maiko or geisha. it's a yukata.

>>8491819
My white friend is currently in Japan right now and she's annoyed that everyone around keeps asking her WHY HAVEN'T YOU BOUGHT A YUKATA YET!?

Even though she has no reason to own one.

I love fur as an accessory

>>8491870
Oh man those Secret Honey Disney yukatas...

>>8491834
America is literally the only country I can see needing to specify for clarity sake, but here it's really unnecessary.
She's a halfie (or so) which invalidates her if she were to be living in Japan. She'd be thought of the same or worse as white people. Since she's here in America though, she's an automatically an expert in everything Nihonese for sure.

There's currently a lucky bag on Rakuten containing the whole set needed for wearing a Yukata. It's $95 USD plus shipping. I don't know how much it usually is, but it seems like a pretty good deal for anyone who's interested.
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/kimono-kyoukomati/item/10001106/?l-id=rgm-sl7-en-l-01

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ikr ? The only reason I didn't splurge is that I hope I'll find some cheaper ones in Japan this summer.

>>8491859
Is this Oshima Yuko?

Posting some super over-the-top ageyuka

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>>8491738
>yukata
>important traditional garment
it's literally old casual clothing
it's like me saying no one should wear drop waist vintage sailor dresses or jeans unless they're white and american
or moccasins unless you're native

a yukata isn't the equivalent of
>a priestess uniform
>a war bonnet(which was really only worn by plains tribes)
etc
etc

>clicks to see tumblrina cry CA
> obvious bait everyone falls for

its always the ___-american.

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>>8491870
Yall bitch about fashion being too weeby or costumey, but these look pretty fucking costumey.

>>8492429
lol, jeans are french btw. That's why they're called "Jean", like the name.

Also, can we not respond to the trolls ?

I was under the impression that the "geisha" who tied their obi in front were actually prostitutes during the WW2 era. They can't keep retying their obi after each customer, so they tied it in front and as a sign that they were for sale.

I friggin love kimono with hakama. One of the past threads I said I loved the simple red and white striped kimono with navy hakama style KPP had in Yume no Hajima Ring Ring. Still might make it one day just to hang on a rack or wall.

>>8492468
Nop. Until the 19th century obi were worn front or back, actually the only person who wore them in the back was those who did manual work. When it started to become old fashion, high grade prostitutes (tayuu and oiran) kepts doing this but everyone shifted their obi to the back, especially geisha. That's when people started to think front obi = prostitute.
Also see the tayuu clothing ? They can't untie it that easily, it's a myth.

>>8492472
Oh god, the other day I wore a kimono with hakama set at a japanese traditionnal festival (I was helping for the fashion show) and I've never heard so much "is that korean ?" "but this isn"t japanese, right ?" "that's not a kimono, I'm pretty sure.' comments I ever had in my life.

>>8492451
most event wear looks "costumey".Think of things you wear to a play, formal party or wedding

>>8492492
Yeah but my wedding and formal wear could be more costumey than my friends'. Like showing up in hot pink with sequins at an adult party or wearing cat ears at a lolita meet.

For anyone who is actually worried about the cultural appropriation angle, this offers some insight: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/culture/2015/07/18/books/underneath-orientalist-kimono/

>>8491738
I'm white and I've worn yukata to matsuris and such and no one said anything except to complement me on tying my own obi.

Ya, I wouldn't wear it just anywhere and stuff, but I didn't get any vibes of people being annoyed that I was wearing it. My Japanese friend's family thought it was cute.

Can we all agree to ignore the sjw troll who always parrot the three same phrases and start to actually discuss kimono ?
I love han eri, but throwing 30 bucks + in them is killing me. I do make a few on my own, but some are just sooo perfect. Especially the embroidered ones.

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Captcha is showing japanese food.

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What is this type of pattern called? I love it

sure is kimononagoya dot tumblr dot com in this thread

>>8492717
I think it's Yabane ? These are arrow hemps.

As the anon who first started the convo higher up in the thread, sorry for starting that all.

Here have a picture from Double Maison.

>>8492872
That's ok anon, I'm OP and I'm just a little bit tired of having this convo pop up every time we try to talk about kimono.
Enjoy some new Mamechiyo designs.

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Gosh I love Mamechiyo

>>8491785
>Even in Japan, it's only worn during certain traditional or important events.

Except blatantly not? Most of these trendy modern kimonos are specifically designed to be worn casually.

>>8492475
I stand corrected. Thank you.

>>8492708
dat color scheme is my dream coord.

I feel like planning kimono coordinates is nightmare-mode. I'm sure there's a rhyme and reason behind how the patterns, colors and textures go together and what you're "supposed" to wear in each season. I'm saying this in awe of how they put together these different items that a westerner would say 'clashes' but then taken together it all looks so luxe. I think that's what impresses me so much, is this treads the line of art/fashion. It's always telling to see a western person's reaction to a combo like >>8492690 or >>8491869

sage for no contribut

>>8493471
Yeah, kimono coordination is the tricky part. I've got a few basics charts from Utsukushii kimono to help with colors, and there are lists on the internet (I guess the kimonolady blog cary one) with patterns, fabrics and colors matching by season. Few new them entirely though, and while being complex seasonal is super chic opting for a simpler outfit with all seasons patterns is way safer.

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"Nico antiques are the original Japanese clothes sent to the world. So that the female sensitive to dressing up of the all over the world may receive this kimono."

Guess I have to buy it, then.

There's a new "princess kimono" trend that's popping up and it is amazing. I just really hope the tumblr-tards never catch on to call it "appropriation".
http://jonellepatrick.me/2015/03/25/new-type-kimono-maximum-princess/

>>8491785
i saw a lot of people when i was in japan mixing the items and wearing open yukata abs geta sandals and stuff. i don't know much about this but it definitely seemed like they think this is beautiful clothes, not that it should be locked away.

if you wear it and appreciate japanese culture and people, it's not cultural appropriation.

>>8493873
Oh my god I love this style so much. I'd never heard of it before, but it's just so stylish and beautiful, the mix of east and west is perfection.

>>8491785
>Parading around in one when it's not even apart of your heritage is wrong.

You're wrong.
This is why culture is dying, from people like you who would rather let it go extinct.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwoSYWIgV9Y

shut up.

>>8493931
Ha, already posted.

>>8493894

Exactly. Wear it with respect, even if experimenting, and I don't think there's anything wrong with it. The mentality of "you're not Japanese, you can't wear it!" is a slippery slope. One could argue, conversely, you should only wear the fashion of your culture, meaning a Japanese individual would only have to wear kimono, not Western dress. Fashion, all over the world, appropriates styles from other cultures. Western fashion has everything from mandarin collars to sari prints on non-traditional clothing and it's rarely seen as an issue, just as you don't see people going around saying, "cultural appropriation" every time a Japanese person walks around in Western clothes.

If it's not sacred, then it's not sacred.

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Thank you!

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Yes, it's yabane. Good taste anon, I adore it too.

>>8491738
Fuck off back to Tumblr

Actual Japanese people from Japan don't give a shit about it.

In fact a Japanese company in Japan arranged for Bostonians to try on a kimono inspired by a famous painting in front of said painting in a famous Boston museum.

It ended up being derailed by non-Japanese Asians screaming cultural appropriation

So I found this floor length michiyuki at a thrift store.
What can I do with it? I don't have anything to wear under it and it's too long to wear casually

Can someone give some patterns examples for cutting cotton fabric to sew an yukata?

Let's do this
>Favourite pattern
>Favourite colors
>Socks or nothing ?
> Zori or getas ?

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It's all essentially measuring out different rectangles of fabric, with the angle of the collar only being cut after the basic construction of the garment is done.

Some resources - http://tanukihouse.com/miscpics/how_to_make_yukata.pdf
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~weyrbrat/Japan/yukata/
Commercial pattern https://www.etsy.com/listing/101423511/easy-yukata-full-size-pattern-sheet-for

I only have a few pics but I'll post em, I love seeing fun looks

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I love these outfits so freaking much

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>Favourite pattern
I love ichimastu for obi, but it's hard to come by strangely enough. I also like modern stuff like stripes and gingham. I'm not found of traditional flower arrangement a la kaga-yuzen, but I love old abstract patterns and indian fabric.

>Favourite colors
I like black and deep natural colors, nothing too flashy. Too much pink is killing it for me.

>Socks or nothing ?
Socks all the way. I don't like showing my feet and there is plenty of cute tabi around to complement my outfits. Actually I need a bunch of them, it's one of my main shopping goal for next trip to Japan.


> Zori or getas ?
None. Well, zori I guess but honestly they're my least favourite part of a kimono outfit. They're not really comfortable or easy to deal with. I guess I need to find the fun in them. Maybe by changing the hanao ?

>>8496489
I like it, didn't expect to see a peter pan collar in a kimono outfit work.

>>8496499
Why is this always such a perfect combination. I don't think I've ever seen it not look lovely.

Are there any English speaking communities out there since Immortal Geisha went down?

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So sue me I love this

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Sorry I forgot to post this 1/2

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2/2

Basically you need about 5 meters of.

For the back you will cut out two panels that are 32 cm wide and 160 cm long. For the back where the two panels will join cut out a little rectangle 9x2cm.

For the front cut out two rectangles that are 23x160 cm.

For the sleeves you will need two that are 39x50cm. And for the Okumi two rectangles with right triangles on the top that are 15x80 with the triangle being 63cm and the c side being a straight line at a 45 degree angle. The collar is 5.5x47cm

Then you just see the parts together with .8cm seam allowances. It's honestly pretty easy. The fabric looks like cotton in the pictures.

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And I forgot about the other pic with the actual construction. Sorry for the shitty cell camera photos.

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You can join their facebook group, i's very active.

Any tips for where to purchase a good quality yukata that isn't obnoxiously bright and won't destroy my bank account?

>>8491785
No, people wear it as day to day clothes too, ranging from young women to old ladies.

Last month's Kera magazine included 6 pages of yukatas, all being 'fashionable' styles. I showed a few middle aged ladies this and they were really interested and excited, one even talking to me about being careful that nothing 'pop's out by wearing a slip underneath and such.

From the Japanese people I've met so far, they're really happy to share their culture with others. There's places you can buy yukata at supermarkets, department stores.. And there's even places where you can hire (I haven't seen in Tokyo yet but saw this in Kyoto).

>>8500747
Uniqlo Japan has some.

>>8491889
People in Japan recently seem to like whites, especially halfies though? It's all the rage currently in media.

>>8491738
Kimono and yukata designers SAY that they like everyone to wear kimono, experiment, use and restyle, keep them alive and really part of fashion. I'm going to go with that.

Where do I wear them in summer? To cocktail parties, street fairs, a BBQ party and every July 4th to see fireworks. And I live in a southern US state and am tall and blonde. When I have posted my photos, my Japanese friends are really happy I wear them and say so and have actually PM'd auction and sale links for me to buy more. I do.

Don't listen to the bullshit, just ask a Japanese person.

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>>Favourite pattern
Yukiwa, roses, usagi, 4 season flowers, red maple, shaded dying, yuzen pieces.
>>Favourite colors
Blue, black, strong bright combos, bold stripes on white or cream, muted tonal shaded colors, tacky sparkly soft obi
>>Socks or nothing ?
Woven socks that fasten with kimono, bare feet and a decorative pedicure with yukata unless wearing it kimono style, then I like embriodered tabi or the more wild stretchy fashion type.
>> Zori or getas ?
Geta for sure. I don't like zori much at all, even the pretty shoe and purse sets. I like quirky western shoes, rocking horse shoes or Tokyo boppers and I want some okobo.

What sort of bags do you like best? I have a few clutches and an antique lucite box purse but I'm looking for some cool and quirky bag ideas.

Also, kanzashi, yes or no?

>>8492929
I love all the styling details in mamechiyo advertisements so much!

Looking at how in Japan kimonos are still very much worn, it makes me wish in my country they'd try to bring traditional clothing back. It isn't exactly practical clothing (or always that pretty) but it would be great to see a designer trying to modernize it for daily wear.

>>8500404

Not that anon but the one Immortal Geisha group I've come across so far has its most recent post from December 2014? Unless there's another?

I'd love to host something similar to IG's website (when it was up) but I'm not sure if it'd be worth it - what do other anons think?

>>8501073
The active group is called "Immortal geisha - a kimono kitsuke and geiko group" I believe.

>>8501073
Depends how active you could be, how knowledgable you are in kitsuke to answer questions, how good you are at people and group management, and how good you are at website care taking when things break. Also those kinds of sites take a lot of storage space for the photos and periodic maintainance as the forum software updates. I do miss the IG forum site being active, even though I'm mostly just a lurker. I hate the way facebook groups handle search, topics and discussions, and photo compression.

>>8490299
Is it really too expensive compared to other yukata sites and places to order though?

>>8500967
Which country? I love when designers include little touches from ethnic clothing or national dress. Caucasian americzn here with Swedish and Irish ancestors and I love the national dress and traditional clothing of both evrn though I am at a remove.

>>8501266
Depending on the product you're going for, nay, it's midrange. I mean thest things are priced like a dress mostly. You can have low price ones in department stores for 30$ or pay big money (500+) for big name designer thing. All in all it's regular j-fashion price range. It's just that yukata are some glorified bathrobes, so 120$ is too much for me.

>>8499938
And for what size is this?

>>8500947
I absolutely love kanzashi but every time I go to look for them online most of the affordable ones are handmade and I think, "I could make this myself," and close the tab. And so I haven't bought any yet, but also I haven't made any, so who wins in the end?

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Thank you so much, you're lovely

>>8501505
Most ready-made yukata and instructions for making one are just one standard size. You adjust length by a bigger or smaller oshare and width by how you wrap and any padding underneath. A few places offer reasy-made plus size yukata but I have not seen any instructions for making bigger ones. Kimono and yukata-specific fabric bolts are usually sold in a set length and width as well.

>>8501860
I wear an antique all metal bira-bira fan shaped one sometimes. Both with yukata and just with vintage dresses in an updo. I guess you can make tsumami types or decorative cord type but it's also quite an art from the videos I've watched.

>>8496460
>Favourite pattern
>pic related

Flowers, leaves (i.e. morning glories, wisteria, maple leaves) & firework/streamer prints are really nice too

>Favourite colors
Red, black, turquoise, crimson & dark grey

>Socks or nothing ?
Socks (are stockings or leggings any better? Are they kimono appropriate?)

> Zori or getas ?
I like geta, but zori look a little less heavy. I'm on the fence about those.

>>8501903
I will sell my firstborn to whoever can get me sauce on this furisode

>>8501505
The measurements I listed were for a Japanese Medium. If you look at the picture it lists the sizing a for a small and large as well. Though since it's straight lines altering the pattern should be easy.

>>8501885
Your welcomed.

>>8501903
No reason stockings wouldn't work, but they would be hidden by the kimono as you don't see above the ankles anyway, and don't really pair up well with sandals, so I guess it might be not the best idea.

from the WAFRICA fashion show

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>>8501903
Well, leggings are often worns in winter to keep your legs warm while still being able to wear tabi (shops carry really heavy, non-strechy tabi with clips or even fleece ones nowadays), and stockings are ok with wstern shoes but as >>8504409 said, the pattern won't show anyway.

I am currently working on like...3 kimonos. Well, one is a yukata. But they are all for cosplay and I am trying so hard to make sure they end up looking okay lol. Especially my kimonos. One of the characters I am making them for has on like, three layers and I am starting to doubt which colour lines what layer and stuff. I have also been trying to work out which layer is called what and I am still unsure.

Pic related.

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Second pic and why I am getting confused because the CG render and concept art seem to have different layering

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From what I gather it's a shiromoku uchikake (white uchikake for weddings) doubled in red and with the top loose on the waist court style, with a white kosode doubled in red. The obi is white too, must be maru obi with red obijime.

>>8490270
I think a yukata works for almost any outdoor summer festival-type event. As long as you have a clean face, tie or pin your hair up and light makeup it should be fine. And don't wear the wrong way around. Always your left side over right from your perspective. What makes weeaboos stand out is wearing right flap over left(reserved for corpses in funerals), unironed wrinkled fabric, frayed scraggly hair and a pasty blemished face. If you have big boobs, wrap towels around your waist to flatten the silhouette so they don't hang over the belt.

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>>8506110
You're cosplaying that ?
Woah, good luck then, it must require an incredible amount of work.

>>8506113
It looks like two kimonos to me, rather than three. The big one is tied around the waist with the sleeves down, and the other one, lined in red, has the sleeves tied with a ribbon on the back (I think there's a specific name for that).

>>8506828
Tasuki, that's the sleeve tying.

>>8506922
>Tasuki
Not that anon, but thanks I was always wonder what that was called. I always think it looks kinda cute. (don't ask, I don't really know why, but I do)

Saved by the bump

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I live in Japan (not as a tourist, as an actual resident) and I thoroughly disagree. As long as you look up a video and wear it properly, wearing yukata and kimono out and about normally is completely fine. I see Japanese people going about daily business in wafuku DAILY. I don't see a lot of foreigners so I can't attest to if they'd wear wafuku as normal clothes, but I've seen plenty of foreigners in yukata at festivals (myself included) and they are always well loved and complimented.

Please take your tumblrina attitude back to where you came.

>>8493931
His reaction to sjw views is hilarious. Like comparing it to Sakoku should be a bit of an eyeopener to some sjw but they probably think that was a great idea too.

>>8494033
This! There is a difference between wearing sacred Shinto or Buddhist priest's garb like its a sundress and wearing kimono, goddamn some Americans are really dumb and overly sensitive about fear of racism.

>>8496460
>Favourite pattern
Yabane/yagasuri (arrows), mizutama (dots), asagao (morning glories), and kingyo (goldfish)!

>Favourite colors
Creams, blues, and reds

>Socks or nothing ?
Errr, well. Socks always with zori, nothing with geta of course.

> Zori or getas ?
Zori! Geta hurt like hell after walking 4-5km around a matsuri.

>>8510919
Fuck off

>>8510926
>Geta hurt like hell after walking 4-5km around a matsuri.
I saw someone doing a what I though was a Touhou cosplay and she was walking with big single tooth geta and with incredible agility at that.
It was in the evening so she probably walked all day with them.

>>8510926
Is it just that you're walking on pavement? I find the wood itself comfortable as a surface against my feet but it feels like a shockwave travels through the wood with every step after a few hours. I wonder how different it would feel if I was walking on grass or dirt all day.

>>8511375
I heard that those are actually very comfortable if made correctly.
It's a matter of posture, walking on Tengu Geta.

>>8512095
Yeah, the two matsuri I have been to so far this year were on pavement. The second was Tsushima matsuri, which technically was half dirt roads but still tiring. Geta are comfy for the first like 2 hours wearing, then after that I want to die haha. The upside is walking on tatami right after taking off wooden geta feels sublime.

>>8491846
Are even maiko and geisha "sacred", though? It's practically Halloween costume material over here and it's not religious like a shrine maiden. Hell, shrine maidens have been cosplayed to hell and back? Nothing is sacred. Don't listen to these social justice white tumblrettes. Just be tasteful and know where to post.

>>8515350
I get what you mean- for example "Maiko henshin" is incredibly popular in Kyoto, basically a normal girl paying to be dressed up as a maiko for a day and walk around taking photos. Its totally normal for Japanese people. Honestly, Japanese people are really laid back about sharing their culture. I asked my boyfriend (Japanese) all the same questions as that one youtube video and he agreed with everything the guy in the video said.

Japanese/Asian-americans and Americans need to calm the fuck down about a culture that isn't even theirs to police.

I found a stash of kimono/yukata pics that were hiding in my download folder, I think some of you might enjoy them. Also, sorry in advance, but I don't know the source to all of these. I either picked them off from a previous kimono thread or I found them off of Tumblr.

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All done.

Not the picture that shows her kimono the best, but I'm biased because of the dog

>>8516681
Thanks for the dump

>>8516765
It's no problem at all. I'm happy to see that other anons are really into kimonos & all of that jazz.

>pic
>checklist for appropriate times to wear certain kimono

Might come in handy for anyone who needs it

>>8515341
Now tell you these ladies dance with them for as long if not longer.

Placed an order for a yukata through aliexpress. Got a nice deal for the whole pack (yukata+obi&geta set).
In a month I will get to try it on. I'm only going to wear it at cons and maybe at some approriate festivals if I find any. But these are just so pretty that I just need to have one.
Fashion is for having fun after all.

>>8516844
Can you explain what the shapes each mean?

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o is yes, x is no, triangle is maybe/depending on the event and kimono

>>8491738
Came here expecting comments like this. Was not disappointed.

Speak to the majority of traditional kimono producers and they will all be VERY happy to have foreigners wearing kimono. Speak to the majority of ACTUAL Japanese people (not "Japanese-American" who haven't actually grown up in Japan) and they will be VERY happy to have foreigners taking an interest in their kimono.
This ridiculous "cultural appropriation" shaming is so horrible because it doesn't actually represent the opinions of those who are supposedly meant to be offended by it. At all.

i'm 41cm shoulders, 98cm bust, 77cm waist 94cm hips 155cm tall...sports bra takes me down 3cm

i want to know whether i'll look like a dumb blob in a yukata or i'll actually look cute...can i request photos of not-skinny but not-obese girls in wafuku?

and please for fucks sake dont turn it into a fat acceptance/shaming tumblr argument, i just want to better visualise how i'll look like in a yukata

im not really into the idea of binding because back fat+shoulders can't be binded and the point of wearing yukata is to stay cool in summer while having fun at the matsuri (32 celsius high humidity here)

yea uhm wafuku kamisamas of cgl please...post pics of not-so-skinny but not like superassMcBurgerobese girls in wafuku?? because i have so much faith in the resourcefulness of cgl h-heh

>>8518762
Impossible to look good in one when you're really fat

>>8518776
yea i want pics to see how bad it is before i blow my money on it!
im sure some seagull out there saves photos of fat girls looking bad in kimono to post to cgl?? time to reveal your fatty wa-ita-fuku collection now *cough*sothatidontjointhatcollection*cough*

>>8518790
Just look in the mirror

>>8518762
You have to keep in mind that yukata have standard sizes for japanese people, and most japanese people aren't fat. So, most likely a yukata won't fit. You may consider making a yukata for your size rather than buying one. I haven't' seen fat people waering yukata, but from what I gather it can look flattering since the general idea is to alongate the silhouete.

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>>8518762

Apologies for the shitty pic, but here's my yukata from the Otakon Matsuri. I don't consider myself fat, but I'm by no means skinny. My waist is 78 cm and my bust and hip are slightly bigger, but not by much (I have an apple shape).

So your waist isn't really that big but the problem here will be your boobs and hips. At some point, you'll either end up with "kimono boob" which is a faux paus OR you'll have to pad out to get the shapeless cylinder and that will make you much larger looking.

I agree that yukata are about staying cool, but with your measurements it's going to boil down to either wearing the yukata and dealing with the problems that could arise from your measurements (if you don't pad and bind), or not wearing one. You might be more suited to actual kimono than yukata. Also, idk about anyone else but I have never found yukata to be all that cool. Maybe around your legs if you catch a breeze but being wrapped up like a sushi roll, even a cotton one, is still a bit uncomfortable and makes me sweat a ton around my waist.

I don't think my comment really helps you find a solution, and I apologize for that, but yukata aren't magically cute or magically cooling. It's really about how you decide to wear it. If you're skeptical, get a really inexpensive one to try it out and worst case, it can be a lounge robe.

I'm thinking of buying some copies of kimono hime from Amazon Japan. Do you have any specific issues to recommend?

>>8491785
Okay Katrina, whatever you say.

Some links to buy a yukata, please?

>>8518873
Elongate

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>>8520210
I lie the seagull motif. Please tell me it's part of why you bought it.

>>8522785

No but now I will definitely wear it with gull pride.

I really just loved the colors and the stripes. Felt different than a normal yukata.

>>8522704
This looks very good but the sword is too much I think.

>>8525881
Look like it was a festival and she got professionally dressed. A ohashori so smooth and yet so tiny yells pro to me.

>>8518915
he looks glorious, like a demigod or something

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>>8491785
You are wrong.

The reason they aren't as much anymore is due to two large historical events which have led to Japan becoming quite western.
The first was obviously the opening of the ports in the 19th century with lots of European (especially English) culture flowing into the country.
The second one was the end of world war two and the Americanization that set in as a direct result.
An apt comparison would be the BDR, albeit with much less severity than in Japan.

I suggest you read some actual literature, particularly Dazai's last two novels, they give quite the insight into post-WW2 Japan and the way the war and the occupation changed it.

Think about how Kazuko in Shayou would almost certainly favor western clothing over the traditional attire.

Think about Yozo in that communist "book club" of his and how they would fashion themselves after the Chinese who, under Mao, in turn abolished their traditional dress in favor of western, Russian clothes.

>>8528336
Definitely.
The colors and pattern are wonderful!

>>8528514
I also read something really interesting, I think it was in Dalby's book. Kimono was on it's decline in the 70's, and then the great Kobe earthquake. Housewives died by dozen trapped in their houses, and there were images going around of dead women exposed due to the kimono coming loose. Dalby explain that it was a huge thing for most japanese women at that time, thus they refrained even more from wearing kimono or changing back to yukata once home.

>>8518915
He looks amazing, though.

>>8516859
>Now tell you these ladies dance with them
What?

Hey guys, I apologize if this sounds noob, but I'm interested in cosplay picture related-
Can you guys give me the appropriate names for the articles of layers so I can start search for patterns?
The top looks like a basic red kimono to me, but I'm not sure if the item around her waist is an obi or something else, along with the name of the pleated skirt.

>>8530714
nagajuban (under kimono), red iromuji kimono, mint/light blue hanhaba obi, navy hakama. The tying style for the sleeves is called tasuki, just made with a regular himo.

>>8530737
Thanks!

>>8529260
This honestly makes a lot of sense as well.

>>8530702
It's a traditional dance where these women dance dressed like that, with these shoes too.

is there a word for this kind of yukata/kimono? she wears them like pajamas

>>8531572
It's just a yukata (yukata literally means bathing clothes btw), these are usually worn as pjs and after bathing when you stay at a Ryokan.