/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I guess I'll start with a sort of nooby question, how exactly do you wear a blouse with a skirt, what's considered correct? Do you tuck in the blouse or leave it out? If the blouse has a nicely finished end that wouldn't be too long or out of place, it it alright to leave it (neatly) untucked?

How does chibitenshi get so many pieces at AP releases? Their purchase limit rule for releases is pretty strictly reinforced (at least for the Tokyo area shops).

>>8487119
They may have a team of people helping them or maybe they use multiple computers and addresses? That's just my guess

Is it true that Classical Puppets has gone downhill quality-wise?
I was going to buy one of their bell-shaped pettis in blue, but now I'm not so sure...

>>8487106
It depends on the blouse and skirt. if it looks fine untucked (like if the skirt doesn't have a big bow or something that's going to look weird with the blouse untucked) then leave it untucked if you wish. there are no rules for that. Do what you think looks best.

Hey guys! I'm not sure where to put this, if it comes down to it maybe a thread should be made, but do you guys like lolita and japanese item hauls? Do you think that would survive as its own thread? I personally LOVE seeing what other people get, especially from stores near me such as Daiso.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPjG_b_u1MM

>>8487143
There's already a Youtube thread, which is probably what you're looking for.

>>8487146
Oh! Thank you! ... Now I feel silly. I went through the catalog, but I guess I didn't see that. My guess is it isn't a n obvious YouTube thread. Ill ctrl+f.

How much is DDC tiered worth now? I'm hoping to buy just the jsk but I wanted to know how much to budget for. I saw on auctions some people sell for like $500+ if they have the headbow or tights.

>>8487231
That sound's reasonable, from what I can tell from past auctions on LM the JSK has gone from $450 - $900.
Where the higher prices ones usually come with the headbow, tights, etc ...

>>8487231
>>8487290
There's no way the jsk is worth that much, the OP set is on LM right now for 400, and that's a set of OP, headbow, and tights.

>>8487316
The OP isn't nearly as popular as the jsk though

>>8487316
OP kinda sucks, ngl. I can see why the jsk would sell for higher.

>>8487390
I think the OP is prettier than the tiered JSK tbh

>>8487130
yeah, their newer pettis deflate pretty fast. Not really any good anymore.

Auction came up on mbok for one of my grail items, its got 6 days left with no bids yet. Do I proxy up and bid the asking price now, or do I wait till the last day and bid then? I don't know if anyone else will bid in the meantime so I can adjust my max bid, but on the other had me bidding at the start could possibly deter other potential bidders. What do?

I asked this in the last thread, but I figure I'll ask again since I'm sure people have additional ideas.

>What are some ideas for lolita panels besides the typical Lolita 101?

in the last thread I got

>Lolita then (early 90s) and now
>Lolita fashion on a budget
>hair/wig styling for lolita

For my own purposes, I'm trying to brainstorm ideas for panels that are more likely to bring in newbs, onlookers/casual followers of the fashion, etc. from the 101 panel as my comm isn't that big compared to other comms in the US and though from what I gather from cgl, even though there are some lone lolitas I don't think a large enough amount of them attend my home convention where I would get a lot of turnout for certain panel topics, though I think all 3 of the ideas someone posted would bring in people just fine (especially the lolita fashion on a budget one). Either way I just really want there to be another panel beyond the 101 panel.

>>8487450
Lolita: Why the book and fashion aren't related

Anyone else find the new Haenuli print a bit messy and cluttered? I normally love their print execution, but I'm really not feeling this despite my love for jellyfish prints and motifs.

Is belsel.jp legit? I have checked the archive but haven't found much!

>>8487477
>belsel.jp
Seems legit enough, but a bit pricey for a Japanese second hand site. I'd say it's worth keeping an eye on.

>>8487471
At least the dresses themselves are getting better.

>>8487483
You can buy this for as little as 49,680円! But for real though, they're basically charging retail for secondhand clothing.

>>8487500
They don't advertise the clothes as being secondhand though

PSA that should be obvious but apparently is not:

When you're a hosting a meet, if you're going to change the date, PLEASE mention that on the event page and be open to discussion about it, especially if you are changing the date near the time of the event.
If you've had the date for a meet-up set for a few weeks already, you cannot just randomly decide to change the date and not tell anyone, especially because once a few weeks have gone by people have likely already asked for time off and set aside plans for that specific day.

I know the host is ultimately the one who decides when their meet is going to take place, and I know that you shouldn't just keep changing dates willy-nilly because 1 person says they can't go, but that's not what I'm talking about here. If a bunch of people agree on one date, and then you have that date marked down on the event page for a few weeks, IMO it's kind of really discourteous to just randomly change the date/time and not say anything about it at all, or discuss it and let everyone know that you were thinking about or were needing to change the date because something else has come up for you as host.

>>8487450
Lolita Fashion in Japanese Music and Animation

show good, bad, meh, and weird examples.

Newfag here, when is AP's dreamy planetarium releasing? How much of a bloodbath will there be?
Do I even stand a chance?

>>8487471
Are there Previews in Black?

>>8487512
You know that girl just graduated high school?

>>8487533
What are you going on about?

Can we have a You laugh you lose /cgl/ edition??

>beginning with the kawaiiest of them all

>>8487555
fahk meant to start a thread. Ignore me.

Secrets are up.

>>8487100
what websites can i use to look for quirky decent/medium quality accessories? Ive completely given up on etsy since its just expensive ebay.

Im having a hard time looking for an umbrella necklace that isn't flat.

Update:
We cannot have lolita lifestyle wellbeing threads, the mods banned me for posting another one.

>>8487500
Who makes these again, anon? I want to keep an eye on them.

I was on the bodyline website looking for measurements on my old dresses and holyyy shittt the prices are so high.
I don't want to sound like a douche, but I was going to sell my squirrel party for like $20. Can I get more for it now? I don't want to rob newbies blind, but at the same time, every dollar counts when saving for a new release.

Anyone have this? I know mint is one of those colors that can vary even with brand stuff, but I'm wondering if this matches anything.

>>8487743
Try double that

>>8487130
I got one from april and it's perfectly fine for me.

>>8487435
I would bid on it probably a day or two before it ends. I know some sellers would cancel the auction on mbok. I do know that a bid doesn't deter people from bidding if they want it bad enough

Good luck!

Woohoo! Dreamy Planetarium was way rougher than I thought. Managed to get the regular Jsk in sax. Pretty stoked. Anyone else?

>>8487727
damn, janitor

>>8487414
That's depressing to hear. Is there any other place that sells bell-shaped pettis in light blue?

>>8487756
Has there been any flattening or deflation? I've also heard stories of the petticoats arriving with holes and hems coming undone, but no signs of that so far?

>>8487523
It already happened I think.. I was keeping an eye on it but I'll just buy one second hand some day..

I've been wearing lolita for about 6 years, and I have always been pretty mediocre with make up.
I have large genetic dark circles,I have had since I was a baby.
they don't bother me so I don't cover them, but I was wondering If it is strange that I don't cover them when I wear Lolita?
Do they make me less presentable in lolita.

>>8487877
Is it the kind that makes you look dead? Like are they on top of your pale skin?

>>8487523
happens tomorrow. A lot of people seem interested in that print, good luck.

>>8487877
Dark circles are a desired aesthetic for some people.
They probably look fine.

>>8487877
I think you should cover them. Find specifically a dark circles concealer that works with your skin color. I've had them on and off in my life, and I have them right now. I just put some on in the morning and I look totally alive again. Everyone should wear a bit of makeup for touching up, imo. It takes me seriously just less than a minute and I'm not exactly good at makeup either.

>>8487885
I'm not sure they are very prominent , I have tan skin.

>>8487889
oops nvm, got my days mixed up. sorry anon.

>>8487893
thanks, I have seen a lot of gothic girls look great with them. I am sweet atm tho.
>>8487894
I need more than just concealer to cover mine, I've got to color correct and all that jazz. I tried in the past but maybe Ill go to a mac and get some help.

>>8487119
She's not in Tokyo, so that might be one reason.

>>8487825
My SS got the OP in navy and the matching accessories but there's this pang of buyer's remorse.

>>8487825
Nope. My SS messaged me that she was unable to get any of my choices :/

Kinda turned me off from the experience of using an SS since they all are let downs.

But that's okay because I think I will have better luck on the US site. I hope anyway.
If not, my interest had been waning so maybe its for the best

>>8487920
I cheer you on, fellow mediocre makeup anon. I think MAC and getting someone to help will definitely get you what you need.

Does Wunderwelt's system send any sort of automated email when you place an order with them, or do I wait for their shipping quote email to know whether I got the item or not? I just processed an order for some stuff but there's nothing new in my inbox.

I hate all the dumbasses on Tumblr who are getting into "lolita" by wearing maid cosplays in pastel colors, skater dresses, or random dresses with prints.
Just because the Taobao/ebay/Taobao reseller store put "lolita" in the name doesn't make it lolita.

"Sexy hot cute beautiful woman women's trendy 2015 lolita kawaii gyaru harajuku skater a-line vintage peter pan collar" so rori.

>>8488056
Never ordered from them before, but what did you buy, anon?

>>8488056
When I bought stuff from them, I paid which gave me a confirmation email, then I got a second email about paying for shipping that led to a link. That also got a confirmation email. After that I got a 3rd email when it was shipped.

>>8488062
Never mind, I reread the guide thing. Was supposed to pay first and then they'd send me the shipping invoice. Just blew $300 I probably shouldn't have, but on the plus side if everything went through properly Fleur Antoinette in my first choice colourway will be coming to me in a week or so.

Fingers crossed!

>>8488073
Hope it all goes well for you and you get what you want!

Gulls, please remember to wash your damn clothes.

I bought a blouse on here from a BST thread. Tried it on briefly, it didn't fit. Today I was inspecting it because I plan on selling it, and noticed some yellow sweat? makeup? stains around the neck/back of the collar. Threw it in the washer and it came right out. It's not even a brand blouse is the seller had no excuse to be ~afraid of damaging it by not washing it properly either.

This isn't the first time I've received something clearly not washed either - it seems to me that half of secondhand sales are people trying to get rid of stuff to clear closets or get cash (or both), and the other half is full of morons who are too lazy to clean their clothes or sit down and figure out how.

>>8487106
Same as with regular fashion. If it's finished or ruffled on the bottom, usually straight or with a slight curve, wear it out. If it's just a plain hem or hem like a regular dress shirt-tail, tuck in. Most people will say 'whatever looks good' but that's pretty subjective. Cutsews almost never tuck in though.

>>8487471
This print in plus size and my immediate thought was 'Bubble Whale'

>>8487727
Why don't people just post one in /fit/?

>>8488098
are you a summerfag? /fit/ would eat us alive.

>>8488098
/fit/ says it is about health and fitness, but all it is is lifting. They make fun of everyone else. ESPECIALLY women.
We'd get deleted there too.

>>8487471
oh damn. this would be perfect for a meetup happening in the fall...how long does it take for haenuli to make and ship things out once orders close? meetup is at the end of september.

I just got an IW dress in, and although it 'fits' I have some serious boobloaf that is honestly rather depressing. The panel your boobs go in is about half the space I need. I don't really want to sell it, and I don't think I'd get back all of my money anyway.
What's the general opinion on getting things altered? Anything I should know before taking that leap? Do you take notice of alterations on other people's dresses, is it a big deal?
I'm still rather new, so any advice is appreciated.

>>8488126
You should get it altered.
Innocent world is notorious for boobloaf.

wait wait wait is Baby rereleasing this??
and if so would it be for the original retail price or marked way up??

>>8488154
FUCK IT they are
when I have little money
fUCK
>this was the dress that sold for $11k on japanese auction
>fucking damn i hope i have more money by august 3rd through september 30th

My meet for tomorrow is being threatened by bad weather. I have an alternative now, but how pissed would you guys be if your host decides to change the venue of the event?

>>8488160
Explain the situation and put it to a vote?
Might actually be considered a better idea all around.

>>8488192
This. Doubt they'd want their lolita to get rained on.

>>8488160
As long as I had a reasonable amount of time to know about the change I wouldn't care. Meaning, I would like to know about the venue change the morning of, instead of 1 hour before the meet when I'm on my way to the location already.

Since it's such a sudden change I would probably also personally message each attendee just to make sure everyone knows.

>>8487106
>>8487134
>>8488090

Talking about blouses...
When I wear skirt + short sleeved blouse, what can I wear in my arms/wrists to not look so plain? is there some alternative to lace wristcuffs?
specially for gothic.

>>8487727
This is ridiculous. Janitors let a load of shit slip by, but when they're a reasonably relevant thread that people are contributing to and benefiting from they delete it?

>>8488216
There's*

>>8488154

The price is 129,600 yen and it's only available at these stores:

BABY Harajuku flag store
BABY New York store
BABY San Francisco store
BABY Paris store

source: http://www.babyssb.co.jp/info/baby%E5%8E%9F%E5%AE%BF%E6%9C%AC%E5%BA%973%E5%91%A8%E5%B9%B4%E8%A8%98%E5%BF%B5%E3%80%8C%E3%82%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A8%E3%83%83%E3%82%BF%E5%A7%AB%E3%81%AE%E8%88%9E%E8%B8%8F%E4%BC%9A%E3%83%AF/

Kinda too rich for my wallet, but good luck to those looking for this dress.

>>8487825

I got the sax jsk and hairclip, but I was waffling on getting sax or lavender. What are my chances of putting up a trade for lavender once I get the dress? I kind of have the feeling lavender was more popular.

>>8488256
>129,600 yen
It's nice, but it's not THAT nice. I wish they'd put more work into pieces/prints that aren't samey and forgettable instead of this carry on.

>>8488201
I'd wear a bracelet on one wrist and a larger ring on the other hand and darker nail polish. But Moitie makes wrist cuffs so they are also fine for gothic.

>>8488154
I just want the underskirt, is it sold separately?

>>8487395
I do too but the tiered JSK fits more people than the OP does so it's more in demand.

>>8488201

>>8488201

Other than bracelets and bangles? You could try gloves (lace gloves, opera gloves, fingerless gloves, etc), or Moitie makes armwarmers if you prefer. Or if you were doing something that skews western goth or going for the "hard" look route, you can try leather or metal wrist bracers or cuffs.

So many options, depending on what look you want to achieve. Don't rely on lolita rules to substitute fashion sense.

>>8488270

Isn't it their staple underskirt?

http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore/b39pn521/
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore/b39pn509/

>>8488280
Looks like the same hem. I didn't know it could puff out that much though. I guess I'll ask about it in the worn thread. Thanks, Anon.

>>8488265

I don't like this dress, but I can't diss baby for re-releasing it. If you read the other comment, it seems girls are crazy enough over this dress to bid some crazy amount for it on yja ($11k what).

We're all so quick to demand AP do MTOs to cater to us, let's be happy Baby is doing the same for other girls whose dream dress happens to cost 130k yen.

>>8488289
Who on earth has 11k to spend on Lolita? I don't think the sum of my comm's wardrobes is worth that much

>>8488297

Me neither.

What's more shocking is when you consider there must be more than one of them, since it's an auction there must be a runner-up bidder who bid $10,990 and didn't win, in order for the final bid price to be $11k.

>>8488289
>We're all so quick to demand AP do MTOs to cater to us, let's be happy Baby is doing the same for other girls whose dream dress happens to cost 130k yen.
I get that, but I wish Baby would actually just make nice dresses again. The only print of theirs that has appealed to me in the last two years is the bears on broomsticks one, the new release dresses I like from them are either re-runs of plain pieces they've always done (which I'm thankful for, don't get me wrong).

I don't know, I just feel let down by them since about 2012. They're my favourite brand but I haven't liked anything much by them in the last three years or so.

>>8488302
either re-runs of plain pieces they've always done (which I'm thankful for, don't get me wrong) or lazy re-imaginings*

>>8488297
You'd be surprised how it adds up the first time you list out the retail values of your entire wardrobe for insurance purposes. Not saying most Lolitas have 11k but a whole com or even 2-3 that have decent-sized wardrobes? Yes. But that's a lot to spend on one dress.

I ordered from IW 11 days ago. Both of the items are still in stock, one wasn't even on sale. No reply yet. What the fuck is taking them so long?

>>8488300
http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r128439674

>>8488154
If this was floor-length, I'd buy it. I want a gown like this. It's really pretty.

>>8488309
Imagine being the seller, assuming the seller bought it on release. Holla holla

>>8488302
>>8488303


I think if a stye sold out quickly, they'll try to revisit it. This year's Swan Lake looked a lot like Ragnarok. Rose Prisoner and Scheherazade looks like classic AatP. Though I don't really know if they can produce another Elizabeth or Gloria.

Elizabeth wasn't even a bloodbath from what I remember, I waffled deciding on the colours and was still able to check out without the site crashing. My guess is Baby doesn't really know how popular some of their prints are, they don't seem to track secondhand prices after the items are sold and out of their warehouses. Maybe if we started up an email campaign they would consider re-releasing it.

>>8488321
Aren't Baby fairly oblivious to customer wishes, though? While AP isn't my favourite and I can't afford to keep up with their releases, I have to commend them for doing all they can to keep customers happy.

Baby seem like they'd shoo people away, they haven't exactly got a stellar customer service history.

>>8488154
I love this dress so much along with the headpiece that comes with it.

My dream dress.

>>8488321
How low are the hopes of Elizabeth getting a re-release?

>>8487450
I've always wanted to do an evolution of Lolita panel, but focus on the direction the fashion is currently going and what's trendy right now, predictions for what Lolita will look like in the future, etc. Could also talk about the rise in popularity of styles like otome, Larme, etc among Lolitas and give overviews of those styles as well.

>>8488385
Curious, but where do you all see lolita trends going to in the future?

How do I git gud at coording? I don't want to just keep doing the cookie cutter newbie ones.

>>8488468
Same as any other fashion. Develop a taste and inspiration beyond your particular niche.

>>8488406
OTT is quickly going to become the only style we see posted--not because people will stop wearing simple coords but because it's what is generally worn to meetups, cons, and photoshoots, which are the places we generally see photos posted from. And who wants to be the person who posts a generic JSK+blouse+socks+headgear coordinate on COF or wherever, when everyone else is more dressed up than a bride on her wedding day? It won't mean the "death" of simple or casual, but it will mean that we'll see less and less non-OTT coordinates posted.

I also see a lot of opulence and elegance, I can imagine that we'll be seeing a lot more focus on more elegant things like OTT bonnets and Victorian Maiden style floral hair clips. I also think maybe feathers and more 18th century influence will come into play.

I also see a lot more of an otome feeling coming into the style, as I feel like a lot of Lolitas are drawn to the otome style for its way of doing elegant and even opulent without needing a giant Rococo ballgown-inspired dress. Jane Marple has been gaining in popularity I've noticed in the Western comms.

Angelic Pretty is going to focus on doing a less strictly Lolita look and more of an inspired look--their most popular and best selling pieces recently have all been things like Dream Marine, Dolly Cat, and Milky Cross, which are stand-outs from the typical Lolita palette and design. Their brand look will continue to draw influence from the latest trends but they will work the trends into an Angelic Pretty 'look': IE all the almost Larme-feeling, almost neo-gyaru stylings of their latest ad spreads in Spoon magazine, which are not the usual Lolita looks. Eventually we'll reach a point where AP is the furthest from conventional Lolita of all the brands, while BTSSB does more OTT pieces and the classic brands just keep doing what they're doing.

Has anyone here ever ordered from the Moon Bunny storenvy? I ordered a necklace on the 4th and she still hasn't shipped it even though she says it take 1-7 days to ship. I sent a message asking if I did something wrong when I ordered but I still got no response. Is this normal for her and what should I do?

>>8487727
Those thread topics are too broad and usually devolve into people whining about being overweight, exchanging bad diet advice, and trolling. Getting in shape for lolita isn't any different than getting in shape in general and there are countless places on the Internet to research and discuss that stuff (not just /fit/).

>>8488307
They have 1 person handling overseas orders who only works 3-4 days a week and a large volume of orders to get through due to the sale.

>>8488532
you know, this whole OTT trend actually reminds me a lot of classic Baby (just look at Elizabeth for example...)

>>8488329

Baby used to do S, M and L sizes specifically because western lolitas requested bigger dresses. They pulled that after just a year, because nobody bought the L sizes (the L size dresses being mostly fug).

When pointed out that their older prints were being scalped, they did a re-release, but it's old series that didn't sell well (Alice Chess, Wiz me over the Rainbow). Then they did an anketto to find out what customers actually want re-released, but they ran aatp prints and btssb print on the same card. Midsummer Night's Dream won, and the re-release was so fierce Baby did a second round, and further added stock when the things went up (got an extra hairclip and otks that way). However, the btssb print lagged behind MND in terms of sales.

They're responsive, they want to sell as many dresses directly to you as they can instead of AP's stubbornly limited supply causing price inflation. But every time they tried to cater to Western lolitas' demands they've made mistakes and probably taken huge losses. So you can see how they might feel a little burned.

You can see the effort Baby goes into meeting demand if you watch their news pages -- Juno's bouquet and the deer print got a second round of reservations. Unlike AP, there's no need for emails begging for an MTO. Stuff at Baby just needs to sell out fast enough, Baby will do a second round of reservations, and I've even seen some dresses that sold out in two rounds go up with extra stock.


>>8488380

Like I said earlier, I don't think they realise which ones of their prints are stupidly popular and which ones aren't. If you want to do something, round up some auctions and send Baby an email pointing out how high the bidding goes and how many girls want it badly. Point out that this print now costs more than MND. They'll definitely listen and consider it, though I don't know if they'll think the demand is enough for them to do a re-release.

>>8488532
This was a good read, thanks for sharing your thoughts, anon.

>>8488653
Baby really was part of what started the movement towards the really OTT with their expensive MTO pieces like the Robe Pour Midori. Some people would argue Juliette et Justine is the reason but if you actually look at most OTT photos, the style is closer to the BTSSB look than it is to JetJ. JetJ may be featured more prominently what with their hard to ignore prints, but sheer socks, flowy chiffon blouses, floral overload, veils, and elegant heeled Mary Jane shoes are all mostly borrowed from Baby's concept of OTT. JetJ does have some similar leanings but their "opulence" tends to come from rich prints and materials (lots of darker tones and rich fabrics like velvet or satins, not a lot of lace but very structured pieces), while Baby usually keeps the silhouette very airy and light (lots of chiffon and light cotton, muted jewel tones or dusty pastels mostly with some richer accents).

>>8488081
Yes please. Bought a dress, and after I washed it it was a completely different color. It doesn't even match the blouse I wore it with anymore. It grossed me the fuck out. And I know I'm not the only one this has happened to.

>>8488134
>>8488126
How would one go about getting these dresses altered? I have two that are giving me boobloaf and they're both dream dresses so getting rid of them isn't an option

I was actually scrolling down this thread to ask if anyone has ever bind there boobs for lolita?

>>8489014
There's a whole thread on binding for lolita, and you can try using the waist bands to expand the dress, or just talk to a seamstress about how to alter the dress in order to dissipate the boobloaf.

Opinions on unnaturally colored wigs in lolita? More specifically somewhat muted and muted colored like pic-related.

I normally dislike unnaturally colored wigs in lolita but the idea of colors that are muted seem kinda appealing to me...

>>8489089
this "taro" color has been really popular in jfashions the past year, so I wouldn't call it too unnatural/out of place. I've seen people with this hair color wear lolita and it looking cute.

Has anyone got pics of the AP fashion show that happened this month in Paris? My googlefu fails me.

>>8489123
It's been longer than that. I remember getting one from Lockshop a couple years ago, and one from Taobao before that for dollykei.

>>8488659
Baby has been the guest at one of my local cons this year and last, and they answered many questions in the Q&As with "write us and request it" in a way that suggested that they actually do care what their western customers want.

>>8487130
their new ones are shit quality. I can post pics if anyone wants, literally doesn't look much at all like the stock photo in terms of shape. Also uncomfortable as fuck to wear, and I'm no way fat or w/e
>paid the steep price of it from my-lolita-dress and almost cried in frustration at the results

This might belong in the stupid questions thread, but how should one go about measuring how the length of a dress would work on them? I'm about 96 cm from shoulder -> knee, so I figure I'd need a longer dress than that after the poof from a petticoat pushed the dress outwards.

Anyone have any idea what a salopette weights? a simple one with lining and thinner fabric (not something thicker like the little bear's cafe salo). I'm trying to get a shipping estimate but I'm not too sure on the weight, don't want to severely over or under estimate.

Would this dress be considered more casual, or just straight-up vintage?

>>8488532
I'm curious, how does Dolly Cat deviate from the usual lolita look? I personally don't see it.

>>8489715
It's not strictly that it deviates too much but that it's fairly different in terms of color scheme and dress cuts (it's not very 'traditionally' Lolita) while still staying in line with the AP aesthetic (print idea is much like CTP, cuts reminiscent of Cinema Doll and all the 3/4 or 1/2 sleeve OPs AP has been putting out this year). The colors are a little more saturated and it reminds me much of Fantastic Dolly, which in and of itself was a fairly nonstandard print particularly for the era.

>>8487450
I know some panels do an intermediate lolita and they address things like:

>expanding your wardrobe
>finding your style
>public perception: testing the waters, bullying/discouragement from close people
>shopping at Japanese auction sites
>meet ups (in detail)

I'd like to do one myself since I tend to get a lot of people asking questions after the panel and not enough time to discuss them.

I think a "How to Host a Meet Up" would be a good panel and could be useful for cosplayers too.

>>8489574

It's more or less like what you've done, but there is one or two inches leeway: If you don't mind your knees showing, or if you're looking at a low poof dress, shorter dresses often look okay. Change your legwear to tights if there's too much leg showing.

Now, if 96cm is barely the length from your shoulder to ass, you'll definitely need a longer dress.

>>8487457
>>8487514
>>8488385
>>8488532
>>8489832

all really great ideas! I suppose even for newbies that want to attend another more in-depth panel than the 101, an intermediate panel like this one could still be useful? also all the different topics would be a great way to get more people in the comm involved.

What are some SS' that you gulls use? I'm tired of using Chibi because she charges USD and my country's exchange rate is shit to the USD. I know Tokyo Pirates is coming back in August but any others?

>>8489854
Haha no, it was literally shoulder -> kneecap. Thanks, anon.

Does anyone know of a way to get smells out of a bag? I ordered an enamel bag along with few other things from auctions, but the bag and a coat I ordered came to me absolutely REEKING of cigarette smoke. I can dry clean the coat, but I wasn't sure how to go about airing out the bag.
I wiped it down and stuffed it with dryer sheets, but it still stinks. Any ideas?

>>8489904
Febreze, or try leaving a steeped teabag in it overnight?

>>8488154
so whos getting this over than me?

>>8489875
Every time that I would message her, she would tell me that I am full or whatnot :/ I would love to find another SS

>>8489875
>Tokyo Pirates is coming back in August
are they really? i was beginning to lose hope

>>8489700
vintage

I want to start an SS but I have no idea how to get round it. Do I set up a website or something?

I'm Tokyo based and can do AP releases. I'm a little busy this summer but I can start this September.

>>8490163
You could make a Facebook page. What kind of services would you offer? In-store or online? Would you be lolita-only or will you do other shops like Swimmer?

>>8490169
I won't be doing auctions/shopping apps but in-store shopping (as long as it's in the Shibuya/Shinjuku/Harajuku area) and online stores are fair game. I'm not sure if I'll be doing in-store Closet Child as I will have to charge a lot to make it worthwhile for me.

Honestly I don't know how busy this will be so I was thinking of concentrating on AP releases at first since I'm most familiar with AP.

>>8490175

Are you reluctant to do Closet Child because of the potentially low item prices? In that case, maybe require a minimum spend?

>>8490175
>>8490182

Or apply a flat rate fee for orders under a certain threshold.

>>8490182
>>8490183
I'm reluctant to do CC as I would have to comb through every one of their racks regularly and deposits would be hard to deal with since there's absolutely no guarantee and it's a rather long term search.

>>8490163
I'd love a new SS
If you stayed on top of store blogs and twitter too and update ppl on things in store

>>8490192

Oh, so you mean like Tokyo Pirate's wishlist search service? I was thinking more along the lines of people sending you after stuff that appears on the CC blogs.

>>8490198
The stuff on CC blogs since it goes really quickly and you can't reserve them by phone (last time I checked anyway). This would mean commuting to the CC location without being able to guarantee the items so I'd rather not do it.

>>8490202
>*The stuff on CC blogs goes really quickly
Wow, didn't realise how bad the sentence structure was until now.
Polite sage for dumb

>>8490175
Aww, that would suck since most of the stuff I want were from CC blogs.

>>8490163
If you don't really know what you are doing yet, I think you should start small until you figure out what you can and can't do before taking on many clients of jobs and build a solid reputation. One thing I do know is that to make a decent amount of money, you are going to have to build clientele and be willing to do things for them, more than just a little shopping on AP release day.

>>8489089
I dig it.

>>8490574
Thanks, that's helpful. I was thinking of just doing AP releases along with instore shopping for the usual lolita brands (or shops that are in the same building) at first before I expand to do anything else. I don't want to offer a wide range of services only to find that I can't juggle all that.

>>8487512
Quick (related) question: what exactly is the etiquette around organising a meet? I'm relatively new to my comm, and to lolita in general, and it seems as though all the meets have to be cleared with the comm's mods. Is this right? Or can I just post saying 'Hey, I found a really cute _____, shall we meet up there one time?'

>>8488134
If I'm a B-Cup, I'll be okay, right? It would really suck if my tiny boobs aren't tiny enough for IW.

>>8489700
dosen't really ping on the lolita radar but could certainly be 'otomed' up a bit with an additional color/colors and a bit of pattern.

>>8490649
Not not about cup size you have to take into account how big you are all the way around. I also have b cup but IW is tricky and boobloafs on me.

>>8490644
Ask the mods! I know we have mini meets which aren't heavily organized and basically just and girl posting like you described it.

>>8490624
I pay 5-10% to my main SS but I expect her to call around Tokyo for me and/or be willing to go to several shops to get my stuff, usually with extra samples, call me about specials, etc. Then pack it well, ship it quickly and economically. She does. I use another for AP releases because she gets them more often in my first choices.

>>8490644
Depends on your comm. Mine requires a mod be at each meet because too many flaky youngsters cancelling at the last minute, not showing up to their own meets, etc. but your comm might be different.

>>8490669
:O who do you use?

>>8490735
She's a private service that only takes referral clients. That's why she's a well kept secret. I just was giving an example for SS chan who is thinking about doing it but says she wants to start small and not shop here or there or do auctions, etc. It's harder and more work than it sounds like and we customers are very picky and pretty demanding and spoiled.

Does anyone know where this bag is from?

>>8489185
iirc they didn't want pictures from their last show being posted online. Maybe cameras were restricted this time around.

>>8489875
Seconding, Eurofag here- Chibitenshi is nice and all, but the USD to Euro exchange rate is shit and I need someone who would charge in ¥¥¥

>>8490764
angelic pretty probably

>>8490764
AP's Elegant Tassel bag
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/elegant-tassel-bag

>>8490769
Pictures were posted, but then were removed because AP asked, because they included the forest animals print and at the time of the tea party/photos, that print had not had any official images released yet.

>>8490669
>>8490753
I've given it some thought and I think I'm most likely going to be only doing AP releases. I see a lot of people not being able to find SS slots for releases whereas I don't think there's really that much of a demand for instore shopping or auctions as chibitenshi is doing a brilliant job at those.

Thank you for your help, anon!

>>8490806
But CC instore services are always in demand anon.

>>8490644
Yeah it depends, just check in with your own comm's rules. Different comms will have different rules for different reasons - some other people have shared their similar rules so it sounds like perhaps your comm has that rule in play for some sort of reason (maybe in the past people kept trying to host inappropriate/lame events idk). Personally in my own comm meets don't need to be cleared with any mod or admin, but I think it's generally accepted that before people have a meet, the host should post in the page to see who is interested, dates, and then start an event page from there. Sometimes people in my comm may not want to host a meet but will post something in the group as a polite suggestion like "I found this place, can we have a meet up there sometime?".

I'm not sure where would be suitable to post this but what in the ever loving fuck is going on here
http://www.closetchildonlineshop.com/product/78151

>>8490880

>>8490880
isn't that the bear from that moonlight electric circus whatever print?

>>8490880
>paging PETA

>>8490886
OOOOHHH ok i thought it was some kind of freaky bondage bear

>>8490780
Me too, I want to try Japonica someday, it's sort of weird that Tenshi charges in usd while she lives in Japan...and the exchange rate sucks.

>>8490999
She uses a US based credit card to shop, that's why she invoices in USD.

>>8490197
Seconding this. It seems like a bit of work, but something fun to do on the side while making a little extra income. And another SS would be helpful because there's not many atm.

>>8490780
Fellow Eurofag here, I use Japonica most of the time. I've used FromJapan as well, but I prefer communicating via email over the cart system.

>>8490880
animal cruelty, so kawaii.

>>8489123
How do you go about getting your natural hair this color? Do you just need medium blonde hair and dye over it with a pink or purple?

>>8489994
I think on their blog they said that didn't they?

How much does an SS usually make a month?

>>8487849
I'm really late sorry anon!
I bought it in November but didn't use it until April so it was in the package until then. No problems I could see, and since then there hasn't been any flattening/deflation. I bundle it up and stuff it in for storage, which helps keep the shape for longer.
As for holes/hems, no holes found. The hems were done, but it's just loose thread hell with it. Just reach under the skirt and tug, and loose stings galore. I combed most of it out now, but occasoinally I still find a thread or two.

>>8491456
Not that much really.
AP jsk is around $300. If you're charging 20% (which is a very high rate), that's $60.
To get that $60, you probably had to wait in line (and had to dress up in AP for the release depending on the store), do the shuffle, probably wait another couple hours, find time to go to the post office (hard if you work normal hours, have to travel to a main one on weekends which might be far), wait more in line, deal with a million demanding emails asking "did you ship it yet/I want this rare thing at CC for $100 or less plz check every day/I changed my color preference/etc", hope customers get their packages safely and don't PP claim you (now there's 180 days limit), deal with currency exchange fees from PP and bank. Now consider that most SS charge 5-15% - $15-45max for a $300 item. Is it really worth the trouble? You're probably getting min wage or less out of the work put in.
Not to mention that soooo many SS get into money problems. They use customers' order money for themselves (own bills/shopping) and then have to get new customers so they can pay for pervious customer's items, and it becomes a cycle where they get more and more behind - this has happened so many times.
If you really want to be a SS you have to really be responsible, on top of orders, a good communicator, good with managing money, and accept the fact that the work vs payoff is low.
Chibi tenshi gets her money by being able to do high volume, but even she is struggling as you probably have seen with many posts saying that she hasn't responded for weeks. Any other SS would be crucified by now probably, but because she's built up a reputation she hasn't got it too bad, though I expect her reputation starting to take a hit

>>8491311
Honestly, I'd show a professional this picture and ask them to do it. Dyeing over natural color with an unusual color dye rarely turns out well even if you have light blonde hair.

>>8491611
That's what I thought. Isn't chibitenshi running a business of it though? I was thinking of joining some company like some of the taobao type SS groups where there are more than one person involved.

I don't even know if it's human or just a giant ball of lard pretending to be a person

>>8492291
Why isn't the JSK ironed and what is up with those wonky-ass socks?

>>8492304
socks are too smaller to her so they're stretching to the limit and therefore are warping

>>8492378
>too smaller to her

what is english. I meant "too small for her"

>>8492275
Any company is going to want a Japanese speaker and probably won't pay more than min wage. Won't sponsor visa but will want you to work full-time business hours

I want to host a ~fancy meetup with giftbags some day, but I was thinking about how to fill them. How would one go about getting things like makeup samples?

>>8492564
sorry, meant to say perfume samples, but makeup samples works too I guess.

>tfw you like bodyline's new unicorn print
>$133
>$133
>$133
>9999 yen
>yan why

>>8489875
>>8489969
>>8489994
>>8490780
>>8491249
>>8491131
Never tried it before, but I was wondering if you could order a reservation product (I'm thinking mostly about IW) through a SS. Anyone experienced it ?
Also I used Chibi Tenshi few times before but she won't be here in august and I was wondering as well if every SS was marking down their packages, or at least if you ask them. That's the only reason I want to use one.
And as a fellow eurofag I hope to find one who charge in ¥ directly.

>>8490886
well that just made me depressed

>>8492636
Are you looking for an in-store SS? There's Summer Tales Boutique which IIRC is the official IW retailer in Europe and they can SS for you so you don't have to pay customs charges, but they aren't located in Japan.

I know that a lot of seagulls are desperate for butterfly/moth pieces.

If you could name a butterfly/moth collection, what would you call it?
>Bonus points for cute pseudo-Engrish.

I know that a lot of seagulls are desperate for butterfly/moth pieces.

If you could name a butterfly/moth collection, what would you call it?
>Bonus points for cute pseudo-Engrish.

>>8492956
Not working for free, lazy-anon

>>8492966
I'm not lazy, I'm just bitterly uncreative.

>mfw I accidentally typed "bitterfly."

>>8492956
Look at the brand Sheglit. They may have something you like.

>>8492956
Lepidoptera in the Day and Night Dream Flight.

>>8492971
I love this! If you don't mind my using it, you can have a 30% off coupon for the JSK in question.

>>8492969
Yo I would pay for scientists to create bitterflies
>As they fly next to your ear they whisper "YOU ARE THE REASON DAD LEFT US"

>>8492972
Be my guest, I'm glad you like it.

>>8492564
for perfume samples, maybe try finding a set of small flacons. I got a set of 5 or 6 french flower perfumes for like 10 euros on sale. or you could ask your local perfume store if they maybe have sample flacons left over from a previous season. at least don't put sachets in the goodiebags, they look too cheap and neither use those cheap smelling perfumes from a dollar store or market.

Gulls, what's the usual turnout for a meetup that isn't a special event or tea party? I feel like our comm's had bad turnouts lately, but I think I might just be worrying and overreacting.

Which SS do you use for in-store Closet Child shopping? I want them to find one of my dream skirts now that I finally have the money.

>>8493040
50% is a good turnout from my experience, at any cafe or bar where people can come and go as they please. Most of the people canceling will cancel within six hours before the event.

>>8493040
I think that depends on the size and location of your comm, and if it's a comm for a particular city or if it covers a larger area. The comm I'm in covers a whole state, and has about 150 members, and we seem to average about 5-15 people per regular meetup. But most of the members of my comm are spread out across the state, so it's hard to get a lot of people to show up to a meet because there's not a location that's equally close for everyone.

>>8493040
For my comm, it's usually not so good. Five people if we're lucky. But we're a smaller comm as it is.

I'm not actually sure if this even exists, but does anyone have detachable bell sleeve patterns/tutorials from GLB? Or any detachable bell sleeve tutorial really.

>>8492564
Perfume samples sound like a fun idea! Lots of indie perfume stores do little 1ml samples.
I'd recommend Black Phoenix Alchemy Lab: http://blackphoenixalchemylab.com/ (They even have a perfume named Lolita but it's book based)
Possets: http://possets.com/
Villainess: http://www.villainess.net/perfume-oils/

Indie perfumes are my second money eating hobby after Lolita.

>>8487414
>>8489532
Not that anon but I was also planning on buying one soon. Is there any other place that sells good bell shaped pettis for a similar price?

Is going to a very hot summer meet without a blouse, but wearing a shawl like this acceptable?

>>8493733
As long as you keep it on, yes. It looks very pretty.

>>8488307
>>8488562
And I beleive she is going through it by package size or quantity of items in an order. I have already received my order, but I only ordered a pair of OTKs. I imagine order picking and packaging larger orders takes the most time.

>>8493727
Most people these days seem to recommend Bunny House or Melikestea. Apparently BH deflates quite a bit, dunno about MLT.

>>8489904
Try leaving it in a sealed bag with an opened box of baking soda.

>>8487849
There was one anon that had her petticoat completely unravel. It was such a mess. I felt really bad for her.

Wondering what your guys thoughts are on this dress? Considering getting it but I'm no good judge of what's good or bad.

>>8493727
I'm the anon from >>8489532 and my victoriangirldress petti gives me more poof. it's not perfectly cupcake shaped but I've heard people layer a cheap one on top for a more cupcakey shape.
I layered my shitty classical puppets one on top of it and I had the most godly poof. I think it would be worth it to buy one of the vgd pettis and just layer. The classical puppets one cut into me horribly, it was just all round so disappointing

>>8493947
It's cute but... just want to point out that a wintery print with a summery cut is going to land you in the 'when the fuck should I wear this?' category of coordinate questions come december.

>>8493947
Style seems more summery, motif is winter. I'd like it better if it were a JSK. If I liked it and had more than 5 main pieces but not fewer, I'd probably get it.

Bought my friend groceries and now I can't afford my Classical fairy tails OP by $15 dollars and they don't accept Pay Pal so can't even use their credit. It'll probably be gone by next paycheck.

I'm never being nice again.

>tfw no gf to cosplay with

>>8493961
>>8493970
I see. I did find a JSK version so would that make things a little better?

>>8487849
Only place I can think of is getting a malco modes petti and pinning up some of the layers to change the shape, getting something from melikestea, or that one from bunny house (you can get nearly any color I think) but I think it may be an a-line...

>>8493985
Yes! Though it's still seasonal, you can wear a long sleeved blouse or bolero with this. I'm contrary enough to wear something like this in summer as well, probably with a lace bolero or better still, a peignoir over but you should think of that too, if you can wear it much and how well it fits to your wardrobe. It's very pretty.

>>8493985
yeah definitely, even the lace round the top makes it look more wintry, as well as the warmer cut
idk why but the OP looks really unbalanced to me, probably the plain cut of the top while the bottom is really fancy

Anyone have a Closet child petticoat? Are those any good too?

This is a weird question, but I recently bought some brand from a local convention and I'm kind of wondering if I got gypped.
Does anyone know how convention booths mark up their prices or whether they have to pay part of their profits to the con for hosting them or what?
The item I bought was 13000 yen (google converts this to a little under 120.00) but even factoring in my state sales tax, it doesn't add up to what I paid (nearly 170usd)
The sales girl (a member of the con's local volunteer force) initially told me ~160 then added on another 10 for tax? Import tax? What is this extra $50 coming from?
I could have bought it through their webstore for cheaper at this point.
Has anyone else ever had something like this happen to them?

>>8494084
It's worth noting that it wasn't 2ndhand or from a retailer like Tokyo Rebel, it was bought directly from the designer, who was visiting as a guest.

>>8494067
I have the 'new super gorgeous pannier'. I think it's pretty good, I like the way the poof looks, but I feel like mine kind of 'settles' throughout the day, going from 'nice' to 'decent'. Not sure if it's me or the petti. I don't think they're a bad investment but if you only have money for 1 petti/want to get something really good then maybe keep searching?

>>8494090
In regular stores items are marked up a lot more than that. The wholesale price of an item is supposed to be doubled at least for retail.
You did not, this was a fine price. The stallholder still needs to pay for the booth, for their time, etc,

>>8494067
I have their chiffon pannier and it's kinda sucks. I got it for my shorter skirts but it barely does anything. My shitty tulle petti does better.

>>8494084
They may have to charge the consumption tax if it's a direct sale, (the higher of the 2 ¥ prices usually listed together in the online prices), then your state and local sales tax? That's all I can think of that might raise the price.

>>8494084
Jesus do you not know how businesses work?
State tax + local tax + possibly fees from paypal or CC + them marking up because of the trouble it takes to ship or bring their items with them to the states. They have to make a profit anon, if your entire budget is going to break over $50 you should have looked it up online before purchasing.

I feel like this is a weird question to ask. Do any of you guys ever buy things from ~efamous~/well known lolitas and just kinda think, "oh, cool"? I don't mean like that craycray who was obsessed with milkyfawn, but just like, a subtle acknowledgement that some other person into the same niche fashion as you with totally arbitrary internet popularity once wore/owned the thing you now have.

>>8487450
I like
>Lolita Then & Now
>Hair/Wig styling

but I think there's tons of information on budget lolita, and every panel I've been to on that subject has been a bit of a bore.

>>8487514
is a good idea

>>8489832
and so are these

Is it worth it to get a wig that is way lighter than my natural hair colour?
Wig is blonde. I am tempted as I really need one. I am considering dyeing it a reddish colour if it doesn't work out well with my eyebrows.

>>8494084
Things at conventions are always marked up anon, from shitty anime figurines to burando. It's why I don't really buy things at cons unless I'm getting a good deal (or at least, I think I'm getting a good deal), it's something I can't find anywhere else, or an item I really really want or need (i.e. emergency wig purchase because the one for a cosplay didn't come in or got fucked up).

>>8493985

It's adorable! What brand is this?

>>8494117
i think it is a natural thing to think, even if it is a bit silly. just a part of human psychology.

>>8494117
I have a dress that was featured in a fashion show so, kind of? I wouldn't go out of my way to buy from an E-famous person but if I found them selling something I wanted, I might be amused and think 'oh cool, she liked this too, we have good taste' kind of thing.

sorry to sound like a noob, but can someone explain how i can bid on mbok and yahoo japan auctions?

>>8494126

It might be worth it if it's a radically different hairstyle/ length than your own, otherwise why?

>>8494126
Dyeing a synthetic wig is tricky. Use one of the online hairstyle/color trial apps to test the color with your skin tone, brows, etc. I bleach my hair quite blonde from medium brown and it works but I'm pale with light eyes and thin brows. I look dead in a black or dark colored wig though unless I wear a ton of makeup. It just depends on your coloring and styling.

>>8493972
Are you buying diectly from the AP shop? Its not super popular, itll likely still be there, unless its the red OP it might sell out...

>>8493985
It's way better as a jsk. Go for it, anon.

>>8493972
can't you just take a cash advance?

>>8492980
I laughed so loud I scared my boyfriend.

>>8492980
damn that hits close to home

>>8493972
Its so unpopular that many of the cuts will still be there by next paycheck.

And the japanese AP site just re-stocked on all cuts/colors.

>>8494137
you will need to use a shopping service. you can use buyee for yahoo japan, and fromjapan offers service for both mbok and yja. fyi when you're bidding on mbok using fromjapan, you will need to use the 'shopping' form instead of the auction link (for yja only).

both websites can walk you through it but if you google things like "how to use buyee"/"how to use fromjapan" and other similar terms there's guides on how to use them as well as some videos - I know misslillith made a video about fromjapan

but essentially it works like this:
you would input the link to the auction into the service you are using, and you will fill out the information they ask for - usually item amount, and your max bid. depending on what SS you use it will ask you for a deposit of your max bid.

when bidding on FJ for yja items, you will need to deposit however much money you need into your FJ account before you can bid. for mbok items on FJ they either charge you the full amount of your max/bin or they wait to see if it's "in stock" (again, you need to use the shopping link for mbok so I think that's just a system thing) before they bill you, I forget tbh.

for buyee, which again only does service for YJA, you only get billed if you win the auction. it doesn't cost any money to bid, you don't need to put in any sort of deposit. you could bid 500 dollars on a dress and lose but you won't spend any money.

FJ and buyee have different fees though, so it's best to do some research to figure out which one you will prefer. I don't like the deposit thing FJ does but I do like their service, the website is easy to use, and they also will store things in their warehouse for up to 30 days.

>>8494137
Google for a Shopping Service. You essentially send in a request for them to bid on your behalf

>>8494321
>>8494323
thanks anons. I was thinking of using Japonica, just a bit confused about how the whole thing works. Another question, if you don't mind, is how much is the service fee usually? Their faq about it is really confusing.

>>8493972
>>8494319
also really hoping it lasts until my next paycheque

>>8494096
But it wasn't retail...it was directly from the designer, who was also a guest at the convention.
The price tag on their item was presumably from the store in Japan where they brought it over from, but it wasn't in USD. Adding to the shiftiness was the fact that the next stall OVER, not the actual brand booth, was calculating the tally for the shop girls because they didn't have their own register. This was a big name brand, too--not specifically lolita, but definitely a higher-ranking brand than, for example, putumayo.

>>8493951
I actually currently use a VGD petti but I was looking for something with more of a cupcake shape without the layering.
Funny that you brought that up though

>>8494395
It's a little late to be fussing around about it now, don't you think?

>>8494428
Dude, where am I 'fussing'?
If fifty dollars was a big deal to me, I just wouldn't have bought the item.
What concerns me is the idea that either
A) the designer was simply raising the prices simply because they figured western weebs would never bother to check the webstore price/"gaijin tax"
Or B) the volunteer staff/ the booth next door manning their hand-operated register was pocketing some of the profit.
If it's A, I don't want to support a brand like that, if it's B then obviously nothing can be done about it now, but it kind of explains why the price hike on other items (the ones that DID have USD price stickers on them) was around ~$20 rather than ~$50.
I'm just asking whether anyone else has had similar experiences and knows how the price hike is accounted for.

>>8494096
if you're one of the convention's 'guests of honor' then do they still charge you for the booth? that seems weird to me.

I'm a bit confused about the Baby online sale. Has anyone bought stuff from it before or know when it starts/ends?

>>8494386
I like Japonica - I used them once on Mbok and twice on Y!A. I really don't know how the fees work, tbh since I usually send them my max budget for a dress and they will bid that. If a dress for example cost 100 - I tend to say to have a max bid of 150. They will invoice me for 150 plus the paypal fee. If it sells for 100 then they apply the extra 50 to the commission, shipping to them and EMS to you. If it's not enough then they will invoice you with for the remaining balance. They will also refund you if you paid too much rather all those additional fee are brought in.

If the items ends up being 200 then they will email you asking what you want to do. If you want to continue bidding or if you want a refund.

I like them but I do want to try buyee since having to put down a deposit does kinda suck and if you are counting on that money, paypal can be dumb and refund that money after between 2 days and a week.

Just keep in mind that not all buyers accept bank transfers and buyee's interface will flatout tell you that you can't bid on this item

i'm so mad

i really wanted one of those scepters from baby...i remember i found out that they had released them like a week before i asked if they were going to be released, obviously there was nothing left when i got to the website.

when scrolling through the FB sales i came across a bit of an old post and found out THEY APPARENTLY RESTOCKED THEM AGAIN LAST MONTH at the beginning of june. what the fuck, baby.

i just want a useless gold scepter goddamnit. finding one secondhand is hard AF and i find that they tend to be kind of scalped. ugh.

>>8495065
I got mine from a Baby shop in Japan. I guess they stock the Japan stores more often maybe. They may be hard to find because some girls get a pair. I know a few who have 2. Try a shopping service?

>>8494519
The only real way to know the answers to these questions would have been to know your prices for what you were buying and ask them at the time of purchase. But yes, buying from a designer booth at a con is 'retail' so they probably charge the Japanese store tax and a markup for bringing it over/not shipping. Buy honestly, their merch, their price and they can charge what they like.

Have you ever bought something without a proof photo from yahoo!j or mbok? How did it turn out?
Japanese sellers are a little more trust worthy, but I'm still a bit paranoid even though I just want a small accessory.

Bambi de la forêt secrete when

>>8494889

What are you confused by? The sale already started, the banner will take you to the sales page, or you can click Online Store > Sale to get there. The prices written in red are already marked down. You have to click to the item pages to check if it's still available or not (the sales pages look quite full, but quite a lot of items are actually sold out once you try to buy them).

Use the shopping cart, check out, and wait for Baby to invoice you (ie- you must receive two emails, the second one will have international shipping added to the total plus what paypal address to pay to). The shopping cart is real time, if it's in your cart when you check out, the item is yours (barring freaky bad luck). If you don't get a second email after a week, email baby and say you didn't get an invoice. Don't flake on payment or change your mind after you check out, that's ground for Baby to ban you.

>>8494395
I'm gonna assume they include a fee when importing the items from abroad (not just shipping, but also customs, in the UK it would be 20% tax, handling fee and customs duty. Also they probably had to take into account they will lose money when transferring currency back from USD to yen.

Like what >>8494096 said, there would be other hidden costs such as having the booth, also the fact if they came from Japan they would have had to cover their flight tickets.

>>8495246
should be out by the end of this month. i got the ivory jsk, but i kind of want the brown more now

>>8495228
Bought wonder party JSK without a proof pic on mbok, had no issues with it. Considering people have bought things with proof pics that still have shit like missing bows or waist ties when the item arrives ymmv.

Does anyone own a pair of these Meta platform shoes? I wanted to know how they are for sizing.

>someone on LM tagging VM as plus sized

Looks like Dreamy Planetarium is available again.
>JSK in sax
>Sailor JSK in every color
>Skirt in every color
>Chou in sax and galaxis
>Cutsew every color
>Fuck you if you want the headbow or OP

>>8494084
I have their super gorgeous pannier and it sucks ass. It's itchy as fuck, too long on me for like 2~3 inches (I am 5'2). And they delate only after like 7 times of using it for a good 8 hour meet for each meet. So not worth the investment.

Anyone ready for the new AatP print? I am really wondering if my SS came through since last I heard was that she got it but said I needed to make a payment or a deposit. Couldn't gene blue one too so I'm hoping that the lavender is just as pretty. I have more lavender dresses to so I hope it works out

>>8495296
The ivory JSK sold out super fast, you might be able to trade it.

>>8495426
only the sailor jsk and skirt left now

kinda surprised this didn't do that well

>>8495380
This ruffles my bloomers so much.

>>8495380
It's plus sized tears friendly

>>8495430
ok mine also deflates super easily, I'm glad it's not just me doing something wrong...I feel like it will look nice the first time I put it on but then start to settle super quickly. I guess I will just have to use it for layering.

>>8495380
I think it's funny because it likely was not even intended to offend. They probably just did it because they noticed it fits looser or longer on them. Not everyone is hyper-vigilant for 'muh fatZ'. They might have even been disappointed themselves if it was big on them!

There is no set measurement for plus or not plus for lolita anyway. It's not such a terrible thing if measurements are actually listed and you can determine if it will fit you, right? No need for the sad. I'm a tall lolita and you don't see me crying because someone listed an 85cm long AP dress as tall friendly, right? I think you guys are a bit hypersensitive on this issue.

>>8495426

>missed the chous, didn't get the hairclips the first round.

It's okay, I'll just put a cat on my head. Brings out all the cats in the print amirite.

I'm somewhat surprised it didn't sell out completely, but then with a lot of AP's new clientele being chinese lolitas, maybe most of them do think this reminds them of that taobao galaxy seifuku that was everywhere last year.

>>8495881
This made me realise how fucked AP would be if they weren't trendy with the Chinese any more.

>>8495609
I got the blue instead of lavender because the print o.n lavender didnt stick out

>>8495806
i'm not surprised. the sailor jsk looks impossible to pull off and the skirt isn't anything special.

Does the online Baby/AatP shop let you reserve two different colors of the same JSK in one order? Or would they have to be separate reservations? I was going to try reserving one for me and one for a friend who won't be able to make her reservation herself. Sorry if it's a stupid question, I poked around the site for an answer and it's either not stated or I missed it entirely.

>>8496055

They generally have no limits at all, but there are some very rare exceptions. On the series page where they write the time and date of reservation, they will also make a note if you cannot reserve more than one dress.

>>8495879
You sound very chill, I like you. IAWTC.

Does anyone know max messurments of babys Dot Millefeuille jsk? Im really paranoid about sizes.

>>8495858
Kek

>>8495609

Did everyone else manage to snag what they wanted? How fast did each colorway seem to sell out?

I used an SS (totally lazy) but I'm always curious to know when Chinese hype compared to Western hype creates sleeper hits with Baby and AP.

>reaction seemed normal but not insane on LU

>friend said there was tons of Weibo chatter about the red colorway

>>8493755
I ordered two things. Very sad.

>>8496622
Im doing online reservation so no worries there. Im just gonna hang back at work to reserve (6pm aus time).

I'm still waiting on them to release the ex-libris pinocchio OP that I reserved like a month or two ago.. they released that black/white one ages but nothing on the stripe one.

>>8496622
The chinese love red. I would expect brands to have a red colorway of everything if they want the chinese to buy

I must know.
Has anyone in this community ever openly tried to sell a garment that's been stained with period blood?

>>8496756
>is chinese
>really wants the red colourway

I even told my mum I'll wear it for CNY...

Can anything be done about a negative feedback on LaceMarket if you feel like you don't deserve it?

>>8497037
How would you even manage to get blood through panties, tights, and a petti?

>>8496622

> 3 hours

Soon my precious.

http://sugarysymbiote.tumblr.com/post/124723624502/warning-to-all-lolita-fashion-enthusiasts-kokoro

new scammer alert, lacemarket user kokoro

>>8496622
I guess the Red sold out in stores before it even went up. There won't be stock of it till October now.

Blue sold out within 2 or so minutes.
Black was sold out within 8.

I managed to snag the black! Which I'm beyond excited about.

As of now, the lavender and second order for red are still in stock for this cut. Everything is in stock for the other one.

Has anybody experienced ordering a new dress/skirt directly from a brand, and upon arrival there were quality issues that were immediately noticeable? How did you react? Did you alert the brand, or vent online, or both?

I just got a skirt from a brand, and while at first glance it's beautiful, upon closer inspection I noticed some wonky sewing. There is uneven stitching around the waist. In another spot, at what I assume had been an attempt at back-stitching, the stitched line is in the form of a long "Z". In the same area I found two loose threads.

It's not noticeable at all unless you look very closely. But it's a bit disappointing for me because I have never experienced any quality issues with this brand until now. (Every item I've bought from them has never left my closet. They're that good... generally, at least.)

I feel that either it was a sample skirt and sold to me by mistake, OR a staff person intentionally put it in for a foreign order thinking that a customer abroad would either not notice or not bother to complain about these quality issues.

The brand in question is NOT Baby, so don't think I'd be blacklisted. But at the same time, would it be even worth it to contact them about it? I'd be OK with even a 15% refund.

For the record, I know some Japanese due to being raised bilingual, I'm absolutely terrified of committing a cultural faux pas as I haven't lived in Japan for most of my life.

I just found this on Qutieland while searching for jackets to get ready for winter. I feel like it would be considered ita automatically but I also feel like I'm gonna die if I don't get it.
Should I buy it or is it too ita?

>>8500616
This looks like a maternity coat anon. Don't do it.

>>8500616
That fabric is hideous