/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8462286
christ she's back at it again.
insert obligatory "WHAT ARE THOOOOOSSSSE" joke here.

Why must muslims try getting into lolita? Their religion obviously makes it impossible.

>>8462287
Can't wait to see her defend her horrible fashion choices because ~muh unique snowflake style~ on her blog again

>>8462290
Can we not shit up the thread with this argument again

>>8462290
gr8 b8 m8

>>8462290
I think it could work if done right?
why is she wearing those shoes though

>>8462300
She's also wearing pants under her dress. I see more girls with leggings nowadays than actual pants, so she must be a from a stricter background.

>>8462300

>>8462332
It honestly just seems like she made this dress and was so excited that she wanted to take a picture without having prepared a full coord.

Does that make her ita, or are you opposed to the kente trim?

Again? Lame!
I wanted a NEW Ita CoverGirl damn it!
I'm so over this grumpy little mud hen.

>>8462340
If it's tagged LolitaCoord then it's up for crit. She KNOWS what's wrong with it, she knows there are a more than a few of us opposed to this kind of thing. She's just another pushy ita poorfag with wishful thinking like so many before her and the many who will follow. So can we just call it what it is? I hope whatever comm she lives near is prepared. This is why we can't have nice things.

I'm sick of seeing this girl posted. Stop giving her attention.

>>8462291
Link to her tumblr? Yiiiikes.

did pastie-cutie send her this ask?

... actually sounds a lot like her sort of wording -- the whole fashion should be fun acceptance shit

there's so much samefagging in this thread, take this stupid vendetta somewhere else. you hate muslim lolitas, we get it, shut the fuck up mrs. edgy and let's get back to our regular ita posting, yeah?

>>8462425
14 posters anon, 15 replies. So no.
but yeah, back to itas please.

>>8462313
I really don't object to the hijab and pants for modesty. They may not be my cup of tea but most intelligent people really can look past those 2 items IF the rest of the coord is on point! If there are other unrelated things wrong with the coord then guess what? It's just ita. No one has given her any negative critique over the hijab or pants at all, did you notice? Many Lolitas have stuff that they have to work around to get a good coord, some are fat, some are male, some are poor, some are very short or tall. Point is, she's not trying hard enough. This is not lolita, and neither is her attitude. If she made this, she could have also chosen to make something more like actual lolita. Im not giving her any slack, she's being a stubborn pig.

>>8462424
I don't understand when people say it's too hot to wear a petti. Saying it's too hot to wear a blouse makes sense to me bc layers of fabric but petticoats are only made of layers of organza or tulle and it's not like the material is stuck around your legs???

>>8462425
It's not muslim lolitas, it's her fucking annoying way of tagging unfinished coords with everything that she can think of.
I don't mind hijab lolitas unlike some, but this chick rustles my jimmies.

>sage

>>8462424
Speaking of!
You guys seen this train wreck yet?
....sorry it's off topic

>>8462432
Dropped pic derr

>>8462435
>wow what a hot body
>click
>:/

>>8462435
Nice socks.
Wish they were longer
Like up to her chin.

>>8462441
kekkkk

>>8462441
I will second that motion.

>>8462435
oh man that gut, looks like she's popped out like 50 kids already. Shiet.

>>8462435
Nothing like emphasizing your beer belly

>>8462441

>>8462435
You didn't post the best ones

>>8462463

>>8462465
JESUS CHRIST

I'm guessing she's going down the ~*~nymphet~*~ path but that shit don't work when you look like.. like that I suppose.

also cut your fucking wig bangs jfc

>>8462473
Well she has added gagballs to her amazon wishlist lol

>>8462465
kek she shooped assne

>>8462435
You can tell she's a pigslob.
Flabby body
Acne on her ass
Farmer tan on chest and arms
Cheap nappy wig, uncut bangs
Cheap sailor fuck-u, no shimapan, alternately, shitty knit 'lingerie/room wear' Neko set
Cheap lashes and hooker brows
Shitty wall texture in her rent-a-dump
Such sexy, much sugar baby, wow.

>>8462475
... no... oh my god fucking kek
next thing you know she'll be begging yeha (or her followers) for shitty plastic bdsm bras and collars.

>>8462488
Nah, she'll just get a cam daddy to bang her paypal for enough to buy the the fakes.

Hey. Kids. No reason to harass the girl in the OP photos. Seriously. Let tumblr do it themselves. Considering how many of you tell people to go back to tumblr, maybe some of you should stay there as well. We talk so much about how our lolita is better than those of tumblr, yet I can easily tell some of you left here to go harass her. Its really disappointing. The tumblr lolitas can handle her.

>>8462493
Except they can't. Because it's ***fucking tumblr***

The whole reason they suck is because of their "everyone is beautiful desu! It's lolita if you want it to be!" Attitude

>>8462313
I don't know the specifics and such for Islamic dress rules, but surely leggings/thick tights, with knee-high boots and a longer cut, below-the-knee, dress would look so much better?

>>8462427
>intelligent people agree with me

>>8462510
This type of bullying isn't helping her at all and is only going to make her deviate more from the fashion.

>>8462528
is it really bullying if its nothing but hard facts? con crit or not she's not going to listen to anyone who tries to help her.

>>8462532
Yes. Its not helpful to be an asshole just because she won't listen. This side of lolitas I hate the most. Its not classy, its trashy. Half of the girls on here shouldn't even be allowed to wear lolita and call themselves lolitas with how they act. Its embarrassing.

>>8462511
It depends on background as well. Im a half white half malay muslim, I wear thick tights with lolita, I just don't show leg. This girl might be from a stricter culture (personally I shudder at wearing pants with lolita)

>>8462519
Say what you like to think you are clever but the hijab and leg coverings usually are not what most people critique in a coord that has them. Yes, there are people who really dislike the look of hijab and shit on the coord because of it no matter what and there is no reasoning with them but they are usually the type of people who say shitty things about gingers, make racial slurs and post fedora memes too. Just sayin.

>>8462286

OP dress has potential actually.

*should go with a better black fabric.
*take the waist bow off and use it as a hair bow
*no to that lace. Get nice lace or leave it off.
*bodice is a bit plain. A center placard with buttons covered in the kente cloth and some pin tucks might help
*same with the shoulder straps.

Optional would be some type of decoration on the black part of the skirt. Maybe some very narrow stripes of kente verticaly spaced in 3s or every 6 inches or so.

A nice black shirt with a rounded collar and some cuff detail. New black pants so they are nice and dark.

A pretty shoe.

All in all the potential is clearly there. If the keeps at it for a couple years her sewing prowess will improve and her eye for design will too. Everybody has to start somewhere.

>>8462548
I personally think she has potential to sew a really good coord. She has basic sewing down pretty well. Its fairly clean. Its just about integrating more lolita aesthetics to it.

>>8462539
who the fuck do you think you are to even say that? and well guess what you're one of the girls/guys on here just like the rest of us anon and don't you dare exclude yourself. you're literally the type to pull down every lolita and tell them 'oh no that isn't classy, it's trashy you don't deserve to wear lolita and call yourself that. it's more embarrassing that you would say that in general.

>>8462554
Try green text next time.

Don't be mad that someone is calling you out for clearly being one of the girls from /cgl/ to go to her tumblr and give her grief without criticism. Everyone talks about how lolitas should act. Bullying is not very lolita-like and it is embarrassing. This is someone who is learning, has potential. Yes, she is disregarding stuff, but that doesn't mean turn into foul mouthed brats and start harassing her because she doesn't want to listen.

She will figure it out on her own and of course she will be upset that people want to tell her what to do. From her tumblr and instagram you can see she is very religious. Its harder for a lot of lolitas who are interested in the fashion to really break through properly when they are highly religious. I know not many people like the hijab style, but especially for Muslims this style can be difficult.

Instead of attacking her, just leaving her with what has already be given on criticism should be enough. The lengths some people are going to now are just harassment straight out. Its uncalled for.

>>8462561

You're on /cgl/, not fucking Neopets.

>>8462566
Also not tumblr. Anon is right. You all talk about how much you hate tumblr, so don't go on there.

>>8462545
>the hijab and leg coverings usually are not what most people critique in a coord that has them
Those are literally the first things that people complain about because they look completely out of place in lolita. Where have you been?

>>8462566
Different anon but I'm so tired of summerfags like you that are trying too hard

>>8462541
Thanks, anon! I'm just thinking that with the longer cut dress and long boots, the whole issue of showing one's legs off can be circumvented quite easily, if their background is of a stricter background than say, yours.
I've seen aristo done really quite nicely by a girl wearing a hijab. It was only a simple outfit with a full length skirt, but it pulled together well.

>>8462554
>being this butthurt

>>8462561
>don't be mad that someone is calling you out for clearly being one of those girls from /cgl/ to go to her tumblr and give her grief with out criticism.
any better for you, anon?
first of all you should know that you come off as really controlling and you should probably stop. or maybe you just have a controlling personality via the whole

'those girls shouldn't be classified lolita on how they act' type of view of the whole thing.
bitches are gonna be bitches and you know what it happens everywhere.

secondly i'm not one of those anons to go and give her shit on her tumblr.
yeah there are some girls that do but hey you picked out the wrong one. but keep going i love hearing you yap on about things that other girls are doing and how you shame them about it which is probably rightfully just. continue to talk thought anon i can't wait to see what others will put.
tbh my only problem with you is that you picked the wrong anon to put into that category.

Do all Muslims have such shit taste? I've never seen a Muslim lolita who wasn't an ita.

>>8462566
this exactly thank you anon <3
>>8462583
>talking shit

>>8462582
She may not like that style or not know of it though. Thats the only problem with that thought, but still a good thought nonetheless. She is new, its easy to tell. We all had our ita moments, even giving bad advice and not wanting to listen to coaching. Eventually she will learn.

I agree with the stricter family or stricter personal religious views. This seems very possible. Especially considering her other normal wear which can be found on her instagram.

>>8462588
I can't wait for school to be back in session.

>>8462561
> Bullying is not very lolita-like and it is embarrassing.
top kek

>>8462594
can't wait for you to go to sleep

>>8462590
Poor thing. This is baby's first coord. As other anons have said she seems very strict with keeping her clothing as in line as possible with her religion. She looks like she may be confusing costume lolita with actual lolita. She will figure it out eventually with all the hate she's getting.

is it just me or do lolitas outside of japan have this huge idea that they own a fashion that they didn't invent and feel the need to lash out at people who are 'doing it wrong'? ive only ever seen real drama arise from the uk and america on several sites. what the hell is the deal?

>>8462286
>Black
>Muslim, which is a sandnigger religion.

Literally how?! Is one of her parents Arab or something? That's all I'm wondering here, besides how one could possibly make a lolita coord this boring and frumpy.

>>8462613
You know you can change religions, right? I have a friend who has no one else in their family being slightly religious, but she became a Mormon because she found a purpose in it.

>being this dumb
>probably bait

>>8462613

Arabs exported Islam to Africa. That worldwide caliphate isn't going to build itself, you know.

>>8462619
I always assumed Islam was just the national moon religion of the sandniggers, kinda like how the Hindi cow religion is for the currynigs, and that there are barely any converts to either cause its ethnoreligious or something.

>>8462626
Does that mean Arabs also participated in the national slave trade? So let me get this straight...

>Europeans enslave blacks
>"DATS RACISSSSST~!"
>Arabs do the same thing
>STFU YOU RACIST ISLAMOPHOBE!!!111

Dat logic.

>>8462631
>>8462629
PLEASE let school go back into session.

>>8462593
*Nods* I agree, hopefully, she will learn, and yeah, I agree that her newness clearly shows. So people shouldn't necessarily tear into her quite so easily, unless she gives bad attitude back, refusing to listen. It is harder to work in strict dress codes, especially with the requirement of covering her hair and neck, etc, but hopefully she will learn.
It might be worth someone suggesting these ideas to her, possibly?

>>8462641
>*Nods*
SUMMERFAGS, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>8462642
Are you sure that you're not the 'Summerfag' here, with that pathetically immature show? Typing '*Nods*' is just a show of agreeing on a point. Sheeeesh!

Ah christ, janitor please come in and clean this shit up

>>8462650
have you not been around cgl at all??? jfc go get the bingo sheet we have a winner

>>8462641
I suggested it to her. I hope she reads it. I talked about how elegant it is and how since her lolita taste seems very reserved, she should give this substyle a lookup and learn more about it in case it interests her.

>>8462590
Argh malay white muslim anon here. Fuck it I'm uploading a pic onto CoF tomorrow. Don't regard all muslim lolitas as itas

>>8462548
I hope you send her this advice, its pretty decent anon

>>8462664
Everything is awesome, anon. Don't worry.

>>8462554
Different anon, but holy shit. Get the salt out of your vag, honey. She's right that anons like you are the reason lolita has a stigma and girls get scared off.

A little tumblrette muslim lolita couldn't dress in your style and you're having some autistic meltdown. Did it hurt your fee-fees?

>>8462340
Kente could work if it were more muted colors being used but then it throws the point of using kente out of the window. It's such gorgeous fabric and u has beautiful dresses that use it but it doesn't suit Lolita, like at all. If someone wanted to use African fabric in a coord something like guipure lace (pic related) used as an overlay would be better suited. Granted both fabrics come from completely different cultures.

>>8462475
Like what hoping people will buy them for her? Oh god.

why are you picking on the same girl? it's just coming across as bullying now

>>8462435
is this real life

>>8462487
>farmer tan
That isn't gross, it's normal. Have you tried not being a disgusting yank?

>>8462919
How is it normal to have an awkward tan on your arms? White girls need to learn how to use sunscreen ffs.

>>8462629
lots of blacks are muslim
black isnt just american black

>>8462561
>lolitas should be lovelies
top kek

>>8462919
Uh, >>8462957 is right. Have you tried not being a trashy redneck?

>>8462435
god damn, i'm so glad I stopped following her. I knew she was a trainwreck.

>>8462899
This looks like it could get a great music video

>>8462661
Malay muslims are the most laid back and easy-going. Of course your coords are going to fit in more with the aesthetics.

Look, it can be done 'close enough', but I honestly don't think this chick will rock the lolita well enough unless she's willing to go black gothic lolita style but man, with that comes the crosses which is against their religion, oh man, this is too hard.

>>8462961
I know that but since when was Islam, a Middle-Eastern religion in Africa?

>>8463128
Only Jews have something against crosses, Muslims are able to wear them since they already consider Jesus a prophet, just not the Messiah or the Son of God.

>>8463140
Most of northern Africa is muslim, anon...

>>8462427
Have any Muslim lolitas tried a classic look with long Victorian bloomers? I think it has potential to be cute.

>>8463140
A while, anon. Quite a fucking while.

>>8463140
Since Muslims from the middle-east went over to Africa and started spreading the religion.

>>8462961
Plenty of black Americans are Muslim, too. (You know that Muhammad Ali guy? Muslim. Along with millions of other black Americans and African immigrants.) The ignorance and racism in this thread is astounding.

>>8463179
It wouldn't be 4chan without the bigotry

>>8463179
>ignorance and racism
>4chan
top kek. Let's just stop fighting like babies now. The muslim in OP's pic looks ita with or without context. Here we post itas. Not all muslims are itas. Moving on. Back to posting itas and cringing at their bad taste, before the fucking thread gets deleted for being a shitfest.

Unfortunately that's the only full body pic I found.
Her hair is even visible under that shitty wig.

>>8462899
I just showed this to my bf, he squinted and asked if that was a pimp cane. I'm dying here.

>>8463291
>tfw you own this dress because it was cheap and you were a noob but still wanted to coordinate it well
>tfw the lavender colorway is popular with itas
>tfw you wonder if you should even bother
>;_;

>>8462798
>Why?
>I love that her "blouse" doesn't cover her pudgy arms.
>The stringy hair, why?
>Grandpa's orthopedic shoes.
>No petticoat?
>What a mess.

>>8462465
honestly i hate the whole "i'm kawaii but sexy" thing. it's disgusting.

>>8463396
OT but holy shit there's a lot of nice photography on her instagram

>>8463347
I'm sure you'll look cute in it as long as you coord it nicely, anon.

>>8463422
>b-but onee-san~

>>8462613
>>8462613
There are a lot of muslims in Africa though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Africa

>>8463248
I know; I certainly don't come to 4chan expecting nothing but sensitive, thoughtful commentary, but this thread was especially ridiculous and needless. cgl is usually a bit better than this.

>>8462899
Mary had a little lamb....

>>8463422
She ruins literally everything with her duck face

>>8462613
Your american is showing
fucking fat apes

>>8462561
>lolitas are all perfect lovely beings who drink tea all day. Definitely not human beings.

>>8463356
you're forgetting whovian trash

>>8463574
I bet they are a superwholock

>>8462463
She's covered up in that one and she always makes that dumb face, so it's not nearly as funny.

>>8462528
Dude, people make lolita hard to get into for a reason. It really is my secret club shit where you have to prove yourself before you're allowed in. That's why ita threads exist, to point out all the people who aren't included bc they don't do it right or they try to use the name of the fashion.

>>8462899
i like it

>>8462608

>>8463143
Jehovah Witnesses also don't like crosses, while claiming to be Christian.

Doubt they'd get into lolita anyway as looking like someone other than yourself is something they don't like.

>>8463157
Oh my someone please do this

>>8463309
she's not even wearing a wig cap oh my god
she didn't even bother to pin her hair up or anything good lord

>>8463756
disgusting

>>8463756

>>8463756
I could scream for ten years and it still wouldn't be enough to accurately describe my horror.

>>8462852
I'm sick of hearing about her too, anon. I tried to derail the thread with someone else as much as I could..

>>8462902
Is that a fucking mole or zit in between those eyebrows because holy shit. Either way, take cover because that shit is ERUPTING.

>>8463291
I'm crying. This is so bad it hurts.

>>8463756
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD.

>>8462619
Its so sad that people need religion to find purpose in their life. What a bunch of weak minded dullards.

>>8462608
There was a thread posted awhile back where someone translated a forum discussion between Japanese lolitas and they were just as catty as we are.

>>8463756
Is that a fucking sack dress?
Looks like a god damn moo moo.

>>8463756
Jfc this is too horrifying.

>>8463834
>makes all non-religious people look bad by bashing people who practice.

do their religious choices affect you at all? No, so from one non religious person to another, shut the fuck up.

>>8462487
>cheap nappy wig
How? I think the wig is the only nice thing about that photo. I think it looks fine.

>>8462688
this is great lol

>>8463547
this exactly

>>8463792
>Doubt they'd get into lolita anyway as looking like someone other than yourself is something they don't like.

Not sure what you mean? I don't think I look like anyone other than myself when wearing lolita. Well, I'm sure there are people that have worn similar outfits to mine, but that's going to be true no matter what you wear.

>>8463836
IIRC there was one part where a newbie was asking questions and they called her poor and ugly and directed her to Bodyline. Such lovlies!

>>8463875
It only looks okay under the filter. If you look at her icon you can see it's a cheap shiny mess.

>>8462688
i love how you think everyone is autistic damn i love this place for this exact reason

>>8462424
"fyi if its fucking hot im not wearing a petti it too fucking to be layering shit"
Then don't wear lolita during the summer?

>>8462428
You wouldn't even be having this problem with your petticoat sticking to your leg either if you wore bloomers or simple shorts underneath.

>>8463903
>IIRC there was one part where a newbie was asking questions and they called her poor and ugly and directed her to Bodyline. Such lovlies!
Fucking kek.

Though sometimes I question the advice I'm given here because of things like that. It's like you can't really trust anyone.

>>8463869
>do their religious choices affect you at all?
They do now and haven in the past.
There's a reason why religion spreads like it does, anon.

It's bad to discriminate and hate people but it's also bad to be welcoming to just about anyone, even rapists and murderers.

>>8463915
Yup. It's a seasonal thing for sure.

>>8463756
the things you can see below the image are not for human eyes to be able to withstand. The dress ends there, but the FUN begins.

>>8463939
100% b8 m8

>>8463849
If you look carefully... It's the higher cut version only the elastic where it should go under Her bust is waaaaaaay up...God if this is an oojia replica why didn't she just have it done mammoth size???

>>8463957
...holy shit.

>>8463939

Wow, there is a whole load of stupid going on here. Someone else's religious views, unless they're trying to ram their beliefs down your throat, has zero effect on your life. Kind of like how gay marriage becoming legal has zero effect on the marriages of every heterposexual couple worldwide. Just deal with it.
Also, not all religions have the same beliefs, and practices. There is also a heck of a lot more to religion than just the Abrahamic Faiths. This sort of closed-minded arseholery from some types of atheists is just as bad as the crazy religious extremeist types who do try to ram their beliefs onto others, giving the rest of us a bad name. Religion doesn't necessarily give you a purpose, aside for in some cases, in life.

Now get back to discussing Lolita.

>>8463939
This board is about discussing lolita, not religion. I don't particularly like religion, either, but this debate is better had elsewhere.

>>8462590
Muslim doesn't mean hijab wearing. And there's one hijabi lolita with good coords, she used to wear sneakers but she now wears knee high boots

>>8462902
>>8462899
Same comm? Yikes

>>8464084
Those crooked bows

>>8464082
Thank you!

>>8463792
Jehovah's Witnesses don't like crosses because it's considered sacrilegious to them to wear what Jesus MIGHT (people were put on crosses and stakes and it's never specified which he does on) have died on around their neck or on their clothes. the example they use is it's like wearing the gun that killed your son around your neck.

Some Witnesses like lolita by the way. I am one and I know a few others.

>>8462590
>I've never seen a Muslim lolita who wasn't an ita.
Look up thehijabilolita on Tumblr. She was brought up in the last thread and she's pretty good at making coords while still adhering to hijab.

Sugarnoor is a hit or miss. Her old coords are awful (lacemonsters and sneaker+jeans pastel vomit) but she has a couple newer ones that are decent unless you're the type that doesn't like the pants look. I'm hoping this girl eventually grows out of her giga-ita phase like Noor did.

>>8462613
>not sure if bait
Islam stretches from Morocco, down to central Africa, all the way across to Indonesia, and up to the Europe/Asia border, and that's of course not counting the diaspora. Nearly half the population of Africa is Muslim. The country with the highest Muslim population is actually not Arab at all- it's Indonesia.

Polite sage due to mildly off-topic.

>>8462332
>#I hope I don't get negative msgs don't kill my vibe please

TOP KEK

>>8464182
I'm surprised a witness would be on a site like this. I grew up as one and remember the talks about avoiding sites with strong worldly association. Alternative fashion was also frowned upon because it was materialistic and worldly.

Are witnesses less strict these days? I left when I was 18 and have nothing to do with the religion nor the people anymore.

>>8462899
where 2 kop shoes

>>8462435
How did she think posting this was ok?

>>8464420
>BoDy PoSiTiVe ~*

>>8463522
duckface is hardly what's ruined this

>>8463347
It's not a bad dress, it's just always coorded like shit
>Like that love nadia dress
>First dress, never done right

>>8463157
I feel like it would work in theory but would look terrible in practice. It would look like you're wearing sweatpants under your dress.

>>8462435
idaf 9/10 would poke her cute little tummy and bang. she has to trim those bangs, though.

>>8464576
>cute little tummy

>>8464303
Eh I come here for the draw threads and coord tips and stuff like that. My family is very artistic and kind of let me dress as I please provided I'm modest and not wearing anything such as a cross. It probably helped that my mom has a degree in fashion and dresses oddly herself at time. I also don't have friends in my congregation so I get lonely. Usually, it is the case that a Witness wouldn't associate with worldly people if they didn't have to but I've always had mostly worldly friends because the people my age in the congregation were way worse.

>>8462340
She didn't make that dress, she bought it at the gap for $5 and added fabric to it. Pic related, I own it for normie days.

>>8462435
????? I thought she was tanner/skinnier? What exactly happened to her? I know she was really popular in the kawaii tumblr community, but...

>>8462608
>oh honorable nipponjin desu. Daisuki!
jp lolita=/=non jp lolita

Gross.

>>8464682
Ew, she looks so old and that potato nose is gross.

>>8464682
That vest is disgusting

>>8464682
Now that's ita. Holy crap

>>8464682
I love this one.
Shoot me.

>>8464084
from the same meet

>>8464726
At least she tied it together. Nitpick for random necklace and mediocre wig.

>>8464726
The coord looks salvageable. That BJD however looks terrible.

>>8464705
same anon
it's so horrible it's sort of cute?

>>8464726
So many itas own this dress.

Yes.

>>8464766
It just brings me back to a simpler time when people who wore lolita were just freaks in frilly dresses, and not the polished tea party variety that whore themselves out online for likes.

>>8464826
?
not remotely ita

>>8464726
I think the BJD looks adorable

>>8464095
This was from Otakon's tea party last year. The girl in the pink and sax coord was wearing lolita for the first time. I don't think she's active in it, but I guess her friend bought a ticket and couldn't make it and then someone made her dress. She was genuinely happy to be there. I felt so bad. I'm surprised it took this long for those photos to be posted on here.

>>8464830
>>8464835
these are decent , imo

>>8464832
Yeah. Chop off her hair, rip off those cheap tights, burn the dollar store hat, put on nicer shoes and it'll be remotely salvageble.

>>8464682
nother anon. this is cute!
cgl stop being so uptight.
you know you can use these pieces to just dress kawaii in general, and not actually lolita, right?

>>8462463
> dude looks like a lady

>>8464826
>>8464842
I smell some vendetta

>>8464842
>her hair is gorgeous and looks well kept
>Cute hat
>lolita specific tea party style shoes.
Not seeing it, anon. Lurk more.
>>8464830
Nitpick.

>>8464852
But she posted it to CoF saying she tried to do OTT sweet.

>>8462902
>dat face
She looks so uncomfortable

>>8463102
Why follow her in the first place?

>>8463157
Maybe she can try this when she has more experience. As of now, she'll probably look really frumpy

>>8463309
What's wrong with that Deadpool?!

>>8464682
This is actually cute. Not quite Lolita, but I like it.

>>8464084
Dat mustache...

>>8464664
She's always filtering out her skin to look whiter, and no. She's always been kind of a chubster, it's kind of her thing because she always preaches about "body positivity" (or rather, self obsession)

>>8464664
she went cray and sent threatening asks to someone saying even if the other girl released these asks she'll claim it's photoshopped (which she did later) but her reputation pretty much got tarnished kek. She went into some gang girl phase but obv that didnt work so she's going down the nymphet road.

Oh and she got shit on when she tried to get around not wearing a petticoat in lolita. Her lolita phase was pretty short lived.

>>8464303
Studying Witness here. It's pretty much conscience based decisions and trying to protect their spirituality. I like cgl because it's super helpful with lolita and I find it no different than being out in the world. Also it helps that I'm old enough to make my own decisions.
I haven't actually worn lolita yet (still building up my wardrobe), but my family has seen my dresses and loves them. I think if anyone would have a problem with anything, it'd be OTT sweet or Goth styles.

>>8464182
Incorrect, it's because crosses have pagan roots. Early Christianity adopted them to draw more pagans into the religion and weren't actually associated with Christ.

>polite sage for OT

>gawfic

>>8465067
what the fuck is going on with the random strip of lace?

>>8462641
She replied to me and she said she will look into it. Im glad she accepted and was very nice about the suggestion.

>>8465067
Why does she have a censorship bar on her bust?

>>8465077
Why did you call it aristo *lolita* though. It ain't lolita. It's just aristo.

>>8465089
>summer

>>8465080
i thought the same thing fellow anon!

>>8464998
>weren't actually associated with Christ
Wasn't christ kinda... HUNG ON A CROSS?

>>8464826
>>8464830
>>8464835
These aren't ita at all.

>>8465067
...that is the strangest bodice lace I have ever seen.

>>8464996
Previous to this she apparently said the girl's friend (whom got bullied by acid-desu) deserved to kill herself or something like that.

>>8462286
I've gotta say, I like this girls attitude. Not her clothes, but she seems like a pretty cool gal and she is going to be just fine in the end.
Everyone has an ita phase, hers is just... better documented.

>>8465089
EGA is a sister style to lolita, so anon probably just used the term to make it easier for her to understand what she was recommending.
>summer.

>>8462487
>Cheap nappy wig
Nappy doesn't apply to straight hair jfc just say messy.

>>8465114
This.

She is interested in lolita. The easiest way to get this girl, who seems very resistant to critiques people are giving her, is to use the term 'lolita'. If she actually does the research she will learn about it as its own sub-style.

>>8465098
According to historic evidence... it's anyone's guess. He was more than likely crucified on a single stake with a little foot peg and a cross-beam, was likely tied up as well as having the nails driven through his hands/arms and feet. However there is speculation and conflict amongst reports and accounts from the time. A single stake was more commonly used, and the very first manuscripts found were vague at best about what exactly he was crucified on, and then later writers were super wishy washy about it, with everyone saying something different.

The cross is an appropriated pagan symbol, (It feels super weird using the word appropriated unironically btw) just like Christmas (jesus was actually probably born in late summer or early fall) and believe it or not a lot of the other things they told you in church are also either straight up wrong or educated guesses at best if you look into actual fact a little bit.

Sage for OT tho.

>>8464982
>>8464996
>>8465100

Damn. I found info on her on the liars forum

>>8465088
nitpick/vendetta

>>8465063
Oh my. It was tagged lolita?

>>8465100
yeah those are the messages that I mentioned in my post, also some previous usage or some "offensive" language or something.

She had her own thread on lolcow for a while. it's probs buried in their archives/catalog.

>>8465187
Time to bring it up again, perhaps lol.
She turned her shop-cute blog into a nsfw blog all of a sudden, thanks for the heads up...not. I want to find cute pastel items not look at a vagina.

>>8465197
Yeah I am pissed at this one since I keep my tumblr clean of nsfw because I browse tumblr in public places. Was not too happy about that honestly.

>>8465197
wtf? Even her shopping side blog? jfc

she just reblogs stuff from taobao resellers, you're better off just browsing cgl's taobao thread instead.

>almost went down this path
>thank god lolita saved me

>>8464826
Nitpick at most. I would change the tights and switch the pink shoes for some red ones.

>>8465207
Same. I browse tumblr at work when I got nothing to do. I don't want pictures of naked people with a pastel filter to pop up when I'm looking for fashion inspiration on my dash wtf.

>>8465220
I know, I know. But it lets me see things that might be to my taste so I know what to look for next time I browse taobao.

>>8465307
Her skin tone really sucks... The only thing that looks good is either black or brown. Blonde and pastel looks so bad on her. She must love the colors, but they don't love her. That must really suck.

>>8464212
As previously discussed, hijabilolita is a rich white girl who makes typical lolita coords but instead of a wig wears a hijab. I don't think she counts. She doesn't stick to her religion and mostly wears it as an accessory. Sugarnoor and others end up being itas in some people's eyes because they actually try to stick to the "modest" part of islam.

>>8464182
Why are all religions so retarded? Not even trolling

>>8465374
You can be a part of a religion, but not have to comply to every rule all the time. Especially with clothing. This is especially true with Muslims. A lot of the newer generation choose when they feel like wearing the hijab, if at all. I have one friend who sometimes wears it and other times she doesn't. Especially during the summer and for a few parties during the winter time.

>>8465374
>rich white girl
what kind of white person looks like this??
>she doesn't stick to her religion and mostly wears it as an accessory
how she interprets her religion and what she defines as "modest" is none of your business lol shut up

>>8463078
Sun > tan.
Tan lines just means you're wearing a shirt and in my country wearing shirts is acceptable afaik. I don't see how it's 'redneck' or 'disgusting' but you're a fat American so your beauty standards must differ from mine.

>>8465388
The kind that wears tanner and paints on her eyebrows thick. If I wear light colors they make my skin look darker, too.
There are strict modesty rules in Islam and the hijab is a tiny part of this. Haram erryday.

>>8465399
You clearly know nothing about Islam lol

>>8465388
I'm not going to dig them up but in other photos she is obviously a white girl. Even her friends defended her as such. She draws her eyebrows in thick and just happens to be tan, wears tanner or picks dark photos. Maybe she's halfu. but she's a convert and not ME

>>8465388
Just go back to tumblr. You're so wrong you're not even wrong, you're just dumb.

>>8465067
Her tits have a moustache.

>>8465207
>>8465307
>tfw can't turn on nsfw filter because it also gets rid of anything tagged lolita

>>8465380
People are just kind of retarded in general, it's not limited to religion.

>>8465405
And you don't know anything. Probably some fat white whale who thinks she has to protect the poor brown people. Just go away

>>8465395
Sun > wear sunscreen and seek shade > no tan or gross damaged sunburned skin
I'm from Europe. Farmer's tan makes you look like you're too stupid to protect yourself properly.

Holy fucking shit guys, go argue about religion elsewhere instead of constantly derailing this fucking thread. Yes, I'm mad.

Meanwhile on Instagram's #lolitafashion tag...

>>8465416
I agree, wearing sunscreen isn't hard. Farmers tan kinda shows you're a pleb that can't even go to the beach or anything.

>>8465416
What mystical place in Europe are you from where a decent amount of people or even the majority think that?

>>8465416
Sunscreen is for people who can't tan. Here everyone tans and looks good doing it, if you don't want a 'farmers tan' just take your shirt off. Not everyone cares about being a ~eternally youthful pale rori~.
Back in the day when people didn't wear sunscreen you wouldn't have survived for 5 minutes.

>>8465399
here's her in dark colors. still looks non-white to me. you do realize that ethnicity isn't always about skin color, right? look at her facial features ffs.
>>8465407
>i don't have proof photos but lol just trust me ;)
>>8465408
i don't have a tumblr, try again. quit samefagging.

>>8465419
No, it shows you live in a sunny country where people have to work and don't have time to go to the beach 24/7. But keep thinking that, snownigger, enjoy that one week of summer you've got :^)

>>8465416
>I'm from Europe
Bullshit. I'm Finnish and even here most people get a farmers tan in the summer and it's perfectly normal. Only Americans get this buttblasted about silly things like personal appearance.

>>8465424
Girl, her features are Caucasian as fuck. Just go to her tumblr and ask her if she's white, I'm sure she will say yes, or give some "well I'm actually 1/16th Cherokee" answer.

>>8465441
She says her nationality on her instagram

>>8465472
who cares. you can be muslim no matter what nationality

>>8465472
Well, you're both kind right. Spaniards/Italians are Caucasian (albeit tanned) but have a hefty Muslim population due to the influence of North Africans so it's not impossible especially if her family comes from the south (which seems like it, based on her looks). However, I've been to Morocco and not many people are wearing hijabs. Some even drink. Perhaps it's different elsewhere.

>>8465478
You can, but the whole point is that she's essentially a white convert who plays up her "ethnic" features for brownie points on the internet. I get that you want to defend this girl but it's ok to be critical of people if they're exploiting a marginalized group, you know?

>>8465388
So is this bitch Arab or not?? Or is she just a white convert to Islam? Anyone in this thread ever see her parents? Are they Muslim as well?

>>8465067
That sad strip of lace.
Kekekek

>>8465490
Holy shit. I didn't think this thread could get more dumb. You're as stupid as those 'cultural appropriation' protesters. Time for me to bounce from this thread.

>>8465490
You do realise that there's people who are European, white and Muslim, right? It's not a religion reserved for Arabs. Have you not read a single history book? Have they not ever mentioned the Ottoman Empire? Go to Bosnia, half of the people are light-skinned, light-eyed Wahhabi Muslims. Her features mean nothing.
Fucking Americans...

>>8463347
I was gonna get that dress for my first dress too anon! (Not counting the god awful Milanoo dress I got when I had no experience in anything whatsoever)
Unfortunately it was sold out when I was ready to order it ; - ;

>>8464084
>that bjd
Let me save you my love!!

>>8465089
Thanks for the update. Sorry, but I'm with >>8465089 on this one, aristocrat is a sister style to lolita, although you can take influences from one and use them in the other. You can also get longer length normal lolita dresses, such as what IW puts out from time to time. BABY also do some, but they tend to be quite flamboyant. IW's better for a more reserved lolita, I think. The Romilda jsk is a great example of this, from a couple of years ago.

>>8465580
>>8465585
Shh I was trying to speak the tumblrina's language to get her to shut up. Guess I was too good.

>>8465490
>exploiting a marginalized group
they're not marginalized when they're fucking taking over entire continents anon.

>>8465482
You do realise that caling Spaniards and Italians as all being 'tanned 'is dumb? While some are fair, a lot also olive skinned without a tan? Not everyone in Europe is pale white? Yes, they're Caucasian, and classes as 'white' racially, their skin isn't necessary white white, and never will be. Yes, they still tan on top of that.

Also agreeing that here isn't the place for debates on the ins and outs of religion, and stupid calling it dumb.

>>8465387
>You can be a part of a religion, but not have to comply to every rule all the time.
>this kind of thinking
What is the point of even being religious then? Like, you just pick and choose what suits you and then claim to be a part of something even though you aren't following the rules.

Kind of the same thing for lolita. Like, that shit needs to be looked down on for a reason.

>>8465482
> Spaniards/Italians are Caucasian (albeit tanned) but have a hefty Muslim population due to the influence of North Africans
Almost every single Muslim Caucasian from Europe, is stil a convert.

>>8465100
>doesn't want to be shamed
>threatens to shame someone
ah, tumblrinas.

>>8465641
tanned is a common expression for olive-skinned people you retard.
>>8465647
have you not ever heard of catholics? in my parish they play fucking bingo in church, and smoke. welcome to religion.

>>8465647
Just do what the Christians did
>new testament

>>8464998
Wedding ceremonies have pegan roots to my friend and Witnesses still have those. The not wearing the gun that killed your son and not knowing what Jesus on are actually in several publications. Pretty sure both are in What Does The Bible Really Teach and Keep Yourself In God's Love though I haven't read the first in years so I could be wrong.

>>8465663
> Jesus died on

My phone is a jerk

>>8464998
>Studying Witness here
People like you in the congregation always got to me. I'm not a Witness anymore and never wanted to be but my mom made me go. I'd always run into people like you who were studying and weren't actually into it. Do you actually go door to door and shit? You really think you'd do that in something like lolita?
I'm surprised no one else in your congregation hasn't stopped you or talked to your family yet.

If you're posting here you have to be over 18 which means you're doing this willingly, or at least for the most part.

Get out while you can, anon. You don't need that shit. None of it's true anyway.

>>8465657
>welcome to religion.
I'm the other person in this thread who used to be a JW. not the one who's studying.
I'm not new to religion, I just think people are absolute idiots if they really think they're truly religious yet post on a board with hentai.

Why are they here? Is it because they're hypocrites like the rest? Probably.

>>8465672
Not that person but, I'm pretty sure you can have lolita clothes and own normal dresses too.

>>8465681
Oh I'm sure she's a huge otome lover as that's what most JW girls wear anyway, haha. That's all otome reminds me of, which is why I don't wear it.

>>8465666
uugghh jenny

>>8464838
FOR THE LOVE OF DIO KEEP JOJO OUT OF THIS.

>>8464726
I'm so mad bc I honestly love this dress but its such ita bait I'd be afraid to wear it.

Nah. I'ma get it. I can coord this shit.

>>8464826
Total nitpick. This is fine.

>>8465080
You just lift it up for easy access.

>>8465088
C'mon this is total nitpick.

>>8465666
Using removable Bodyline bow as headbow.

+ 10 ita points

>>8464830
Ayy! Now I know for sure my fat ass will fit into some bl

>>8465088
Is she a midget

>>8464996
I never saw any of her lolita stuff, where do I find it? She's a fantastic train wreck...

Can we just get a new ita thread with actual ita and less vendetta please?

>>8465088
People are yelling nitpick but that dress is way too shiny. Fucking gross.

>>8465919
Watch out with the high-waisted skirts though, they use cheap plastic boning that is likely to warp if you have a bigger waistline.

>>8465935
Not until this one auto sages, people will throw shit at you for starting a new thread too soon

>>8465939
Thanks for the tip! I'll use a waist cincher too.

>>8465673
Is she wearing that on ther head or is it a decoration behind her? What is that even.

>>8464835
>>8464830
>>8464826
Do you know what an ita actually is, anon? These belong in the nitpick thread if anything.

Autosage with less than 100 images, you HAD to derail this thread with religion.
Next time move it to /pol/

>>8462286

North Q, wear a
>blouse
>a petti
>fix your hair
>do make-up

1 year gone, get with the fucking program!

>>8465672
>>8464998
I was raised in a similar situation albeit Mormon. Just don't do it anon. It's not worth it. All of it's bullshit whether Witness or Mormon and just causes pain in the end. We left the church a couple years ago after being in it forever (since I was born) and it still causes a ton of pain.

>>8465585
Okay this is completely irrelevant. I don't know how people still aren't getting it. It's not a question of whether Spanish/Italians can be muslim or not because she's a convert. Her parents probably aren't Muslim anyway,
So basically we have a girl who converts to muslim by choice and plays up her ME features with thick eyebrows and the same eye makeup ME girls often use. She picks and chooses what parts of the new religion she converted to she wants to follow - notice how all the other lolita who wear hijabi also wear pants with their coords? You think they do that for shits and giggles? notice how often she wears pants?
She picks the most prominent visible wearable icon of the modesty aspect of the religion and wears just that while not really following the other rules. Then she fucking goes and brands herself with this. It's like if I converted to Judaism and starting calling myself the Yamaka Lolita.
If her parents actually are muslim too it makes more sense but still suspicious.
And the thread is saged now so its not being derailed.

>>8465676
The violin looks badass though, everything else is a fucking mess

>>8462465
How do you even get acne on your ass

>>8465992
Looks like those felt antlers you get around Christmas time to me.

>>8463522
looks like she's had children already tf

>>8463522
How can she have such a flabby, protruding belly yet zero ass

Also her face is super creepy

>>8465416
>>8465419
>>8465422

People in my country never shield from the sun, so most of them start getting farmers tan around late june. Except for actual farmers, who work fields in summer shirtless and are in result nicely, evenly tanned.

However I've noticed that older women around here have noticeably more spotty, damaged and flabby skin in the exact places where they tan. Since then I've started using strong filters all throughout the summer. Yeah, I'm gonna get old and saggy eventually, but I still do have the possibility to delay or improve it...

>>8464833
It's one of the cheapest BJD's available, a bobobie/resinsoul. Can't remember the exact mold name but it's basically babby's first BJD and ita of the BJD world.

>>8466887
That's the cheapest one? I just got one for like $20 off ebay. Bought a head for it separately - most spending on these things comes from getting a face up done.
Not only that, but most BJDs look the same - it all depends on what face up you get and the clothes you buy for them..
I watch BJD secrets and there are rarely "ita" type things going on in the community.

>>8466050
>derail
>OP insisted on posting the same musli girl as last time
Yeah, this whole thread was just trolling anon.

>>8466909
>I just got one for like $20 off ebay
You probably bought a recast then.