/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8417413
I love cutsews, and given that brands still make a considerable amount of them, they're definitely not dying, I just don't think people post coords with them as much, which is a shame. I love seeing casual stuff, which cutsews make a lot easier to do, like pic related.

>>8417417
Wrong picture, meant to use this. It's still cute but I think it probably goes further than casual.

I love cutsews but find that they are hard to find. I know brands usually have one or two on their websites but man $100 for a cute t shirt is too rich for my budget.

>>8417422
Closetchild usually sell them quite cheap, there are a lot on there now for less than $30

>>8417417
One problem I have that is that cutsews always look better in magazines? Like, If I saw this in RL I would think:
>Wow, this is ita
before
>oh what, a casual outfit

I guess I've been trained to accept blouses you know?
It's like 80 degrees + high humidity, having a cute shirt I can machine wash is a blessing

I wear cutsews all the time, but only buy them if they're under $50 on LM. It's ridiculous to pay $100 for what's basically a t-shirt. I try to find the ones with fancy collars though so it's not just a tshirt under my JSK.

I like them but they always have tiny sizing and my bust is 95cm.

I got rid of my blouses in favor of cutsews, mostly because they fit better on me than blouses and I feel cooler since I live in a tropical climate. Easier to wash, too.

If I could find cutsews that would go with my Lolita clothes, I'd wear Lolita all the time. I find blouses uncomfortable, especially when I'm already wearing a petticoat. Cutsews would make Lolita wearable daily for me. I also live somewhere with crazy hot and humid summers and really cold winters, so cutsews are way more comfortable for both those conditions.

I only own one offbrand cutsew. I wish I could find a few for cheap. I watch CC but so far haven't found any that would match what I own right now.

Pic related is one of my favorite cutsews even though it's less Lolita and more casual wear. I wear mostly casual Lolita though so I guess it would work for me.

I only wear cutsews, but I make them myself.

Most of them aren't worth the price. I like them but can often find offbrand tshirts trimmed with lace, bow prints and actual bows which is alright for what I'd call a 'lolita-influenced/inspired' outfit rather than casual lolita. I know it sounds weird but I prefer to wear regular cute t shirts with a proper lolita skirt, petti and shoes for casual, going out and about. Both options seem to work better for sweet and punk

A fancy cutsew might be nice under a jsk when you might be quite active or travelling a long distance, but for more classic styles I can't find a cutsew that is comfy enough without looking too cutesy or casual, so when I travel 5 hours on a bus to a wedding I'm going to be wearing a JSK with no blouse or cutsew and throw a bolero on instead.

>>8417427
You're probably just so used to blouses, because it's not ita, but I guess with the way the fashion has developed between media and coord posts we're just not used to seeing cutsews or casual lolita as often.

cutsew? more like CUTEsew

>>8419677

>>8419680
i've seen them with high-waisted skirts too but can't find a good pic.

>>8419684
of course they look good under JSKs. a good summer option.

>>8419677
You, I like you

>>8419686

>>8419688
<3

>>8419689

>>8419693

>>8417413
I love cutsews but I can't justify a 100$+ t-shirt so I only buy them when they are on sale or are part of a lucky pack.

As of right now I have 3 but I have another 4 that I am watching until they go up for sale.

>>8419693
i thought for a minute this was an animal crossing dress jesus christ

>>8419698

>>8419712
they come up secondhand pretty cheaply. on closetchild there are some for under 2kyen, but the nicer ones are closer to 3k or higher and are not much different from a blouse.

>>8419717
So I didn't see the bottom of her RHS and legit thought she was floating

I love cutsews but I'm a classic Lolita and don't frequently see a lot of casual stuff for classic. Does anyone have any good examples of classic suitable cutsews?

>>8419686
Holy shit, I love this JSK. Is it AP?

>>8419806
That illusion of floating was the reason why RHS became popular in lolita fashion in the first place.

>>8419861
What about Atelier-Pierrot cutsews? I know they're more gothic as a brand, but they sometimes release individual pieces that can easily be used with classic. Here's a princess-sleeve custsew in white.

>>8420214
Cutsew*, not custsew

Cutsews are the greatest. If you like sort of a casual lolita look, especially sweet, they're a must-have. Much easier to take care of than a blouse and can usually pass as a normal top for most things.

>>8417427
Cutsews are made from tee shirt knit, anon. Why the fuck would you think they're not washable?

>>8419686
why is that purse so small omg

>>8420332
which one
lol

>>8419861
Innocent World seems to have some nice ones.

pic semi related, classic coord but not sure of brand. stalk fannyrosie's older stuff for ideas.

>>8420440
for her classic coords, it seems she uses axes femme, liz lisa, and pic related is a mary magdalene cutsew.

Since cutsews are t-shirt material they obviously have some stretch. In your experience, how much bigger than the listed measurements do most of them go? 5cm would be my guess but I have no actual experience.

>>8421174
Also wondering this since I've heard IW's cutsews are notoriously non-stretchy... Does anyone know how much they stretch?

I had an AATP cutsew dress and I felt like I was at the upper comfortable cusp at 86cm...

>>8417444
I have the same problem with blouses, so I've been opting for chiffon, off-brand ones for the most part. I love cutsews for the same reason I don't live in a tropical climate, but it does get like that in the summer and they're much warmer to wear in the winter.

How about wearing actual t shirts instead of brand cutsews? does it ever look okay?

>>8421833
It can be cute as long as it matches thematically and colour-wise and the rest of your coord is toned down enough that the t-shirt doesn't look out of place. Simple hair, a plainer skirt, plain OTKS or ankle socks, more basic shoes etc.

I only like cutsews. I don't like how blouses feel but then I never liked that crisp cotton feel with any blouse, lolita or not.

Can someone explain cutsews? I am a serious novice at sewing and when I hear cutsew I think of circleskirts because you just cut those out and bam, instant skirt basically.

>>8421899
they are fancy t shirts made out of cotton knit
or something like that

>>8421904
You just cut them out and sew right there? Like.. No special sleeve to be added also? Just cut the whole thing out, front and back, and done?

Any recommendations for good, cheap cutsews on taobao or the like? I'm looking for peter pan collared ones especially.

>>8421907
You don't actually sew them, anon. They're already sewn. They're just called cutsews because lol japan.

>>8421926
That is so dumb.

>>8420290
I didn't??

>>8417457
Can we see some pics of the cutsews? Do you use regular t-shrts as a base and modify them or do you make it all from scratch?

>>8421926
>>8421907
>>8421967
think t shirt
now think fancy t shirt.
you can make them if you want here is a tut http://lolitatutorials.livejournal.com/2839.html
http://t-shirt-surgery.livejournal.com/4066549.html

>>8421970
and btw I think cutsews got its name from
cut and sewn why they call it that , idk

>>8421971
I heard they're called cutsews because they are made of jersey fabric, so they won't fray if you don't serge the edges. Ergo, since you don't have to serge them, you just have to cut-and-sew them.

>>8421985
It refers to the technique of cutting pieces from knit fabric as opposed to knitting to finished size like a sock.

Does anyone know some good Taobao stores for cutsews or just cute puff sleeve shirts? Looked through the taobao thread and the usual Taobao store lists and can't find any... or even just cheap Cutsew places that aren't Closetchild like Rakuten stores and such.

>>8422492
Adding on to this comment to ask about place you don't need to go through trouble to order from, like local stores or sites that sell overseas without a SS. I don't have the time to mess with that stuff anymore even if it means paying a couple extra bucks.

Could I make a cutsew like this >>8421226 and wear it? I feel like the attraction of cutsews is comfort, but also the fit. I've got relatively large arms and hate how many blouses seem to have big, puffy sleeves that make me look like a line-backer.

>can I make a high quality cardigan as cute as this?

>>8421967
My style is otome and casual lolita, so one of the reasons I make my own is to get that simpler cute style (and necklines and sleeve sizes that are more flattering for my shape). Cutsews are super versatile, though. I make them from scratch and use two basic silhouettes, set sleeves like this one and raglan sleeves, and change up the style of the collar or neckline, add lace, embroidery, buttons, short sleeves, long sleeves, etc, etc. You can really dress them up or down. Making cutsew boleros and cardigans is basically the same process. You can also use a men's size t-shirt to make yourself silly graphic print cutsews.

Turning a standard t-shirt pattern/tutorial into a puff sleeved top and adding a collar are easy alterations. If someone wants guidance I can post a quick tutorial. Square necks are slightly more advanced with set sleeves but easy with raglan sleeves.

Ive noticed that Dreamv has some really cute cutsews, especially from their Dear My Love brand

>>8422631
A tutorial would be amazing!

>>8422631
Yes, please! I am too tall and bust for brand ones.

>>8421899
They are knits sewn on a serger, cut and sewn in one operation.

I don't like them. I do think of them as very casual lolita tshirts or something trying to pretend to be a real blouse. Woven thin cotton is cooler than a knit to me as well and less bulky.

>>8423116
Too bad their fabric is polyester that get piling fast and too warm for summer. I got one but the fabric was pretty low quality, even if the construction is pretty solid. AP cutsews all the time, i have two of them and the quality is amazing, super soft cotton and crisp prints. Bodyline is better than Dear My Love, at least their polyester fabric never get piling.

If you search for "knit co" on taobao you can find lots of cutsews suitable for all lolita styles and otome. I bought two turtlenecks and a high collared cutsew with ruffles (perfect for gothic) that are pretty amazing for the price and confy.

I love cutsews. Just not the fact they're still expensive.

>>8425145
Right????

>>8420102
If no one answered you already, anon, the yes, it is. Fruit (or Fruits) Cafe.

>>8421174
>>8421204

I've own/owned both AP and IW cutsews. I actually found that my AP cutsew was less stretchy than my IW one. I had to sell the AP because it was just tooo small, but I love my IW turtleneck cutsew to pieces.

Just for reference I have a 100cm bust. I wouldn't recommend AP cutsews if you are more than 5cm above the recommended size; it just ends up looking bad even if you can get them on.

>>8420214
That's a blouse though

>>8417422
been waiting a long time to use this gif tbh

>>8424449
>>8424455

Here's a tutorial for a cutsew with collar and puffy sleeves. (Sorry about putting the address in an image; 4chan thinks it's spam.)

Raglan sleeved cutsews are the easiest to draft (two polygons based on body measurements) and sew, but I think this collared style is doable if you have some experience with sewing.

>>8419680
Isn't this Fannyrosie? It gives me hope to know that she hasn't always been a literal godess.

>>8430605
bless

>>8430665
Yup, that's her before Accutane, makeup and skincare. Shows that with efforts, you can improve your looks greatly.

>>8429377
Actually, it is called a cutsew on the shop listing:

Off-Shoulder Shirring Cut&Sewn (White) / オフショルダーシャーリングカットソー(ホワイト)

http://atelier-pierrot.shop-pro.jp/?pid=54770500

>>8430605
I'm getting this page when I type that in

>>8419693
>that face
yes i am immature.

Cross posting from the general, how is the fit on AP cutsews? I love pic related but my bust is 92cm, and the lowest I can get is 86cm.

>>8430605
Thank you!

>>8431231
See >>8429362

>>8431242
I saw it, but I was wondering if anyone knew about that specific one. The measurement on the site is 80cm, but I'm not sure if it's worth taking the risk for since I read someone else saying their cutsew dress from AP was really stretchy.

>>8430605
Love you. Thank you!

>>8421226
Sauce on this cutsew?

has anyone resconstructed a craft t-shirt into a cutsew?

>>8421922
Little Dipper has a reservation for one right now, I've never ordered from them before so I don't know about the quality but it seems decent.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-9943094229.7.5YdZt0&id=520184448782

I'd also like to see some non-taobao/JP sources if anyone has - aliexpress, eBay, western shops with suitable fashions - basically I'm SO done with waiting months and months for some SS to process an order.

>>8432098
I've got a blouse from them once. It was high quality and super well constructed. But the measurements were waaaaay off. I had to sell it.
I recommend you ask your SS to check the measurements for you.

Btw, I've reserved both their cutsews.

>>8432143
Me too. Also shopping overseas always makes me more nervous when it's going to take longer and part of me prefers to be able to buy as local as I can whenever possible.

>>8431792
Angelic Pretty. I don't know the specific name but you should be able to find it searching through Lolibrary.

>>8431852
Look at >>8430605 and >>8421970

>>8432164
Aw shit well thanks for the heads up! I hope these cutsews come out nicely.

>>8432308
Thanks, anon! I'll look for it.

>>8419703
this keeps getting posted as lolita and it's blatantly fairy kei

>>8419693
this isn't lolita either, that's otome

do none of you know what lolita is?

>>8432709
Do you know what lolita is?

Both outfits have a coordinated look and theme, with feminine/girly details, they have lolita appropriate legwear, matching hair/head accessories. The first one is worn with a substantial petticoat and has a knee length jsk. The second one could easily be worn with a petticoat and it's length depends on the person wearing it.

Does the first also classify as otome? Yes. Does the second also look similar to fairy-kei, yup. But they also are lolita.

Why then does this make them not lolita, rather then fitting into both? This either or bullshit is such black and white thinking.

I've been thinking about altering some band tshirts with gothy designs on them into something cuter, but I feel like it would be really easy to fuck up. Are there any examples of it done well?

I never buy cutsews because I'm afraid they will get pilling immediately. Is there a way to prevent that? Would I be generally safe with brand cutsews?

>>8434407
handwash or gentle cycle in garment bag and don't put it in the dryer. That should make it last a little longer

bumpin

>>8434407
>>8434409

Also if you have a problem with piling, try shaving it off with a razor

Although it can take awhile it works to get rid of it

>>8434017
Not lolita. They would be cute for regular fashion though.

>>8438863
This, holy shit. I've saved so many old shirts like this. You can also pick up little battery powered shavers made for clothes, pic related. I've used both and I like the clothes shavers more because it's way harder to accidentally cut the fabric on your shirt with them.

>>8438870
what? band cutsews are pretty usable in lolita, espacially in gothic and punk.

>>8439290
>Ita detected

>>8442829
talk to the hand

>>8442907
I thought she had a spider on her face for a moment.

Nah that coord's a mess.
Maybe if you shortened a band shirt and added puff sleeves it might work for a casual gothic lolita look. Maybe.

Cheap-ass cutsews? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-summer-candy-solid-color-short-sleeve-T-shirt-women-s-sweet-princess-puff-sleeve-slim/1751358247.html

>>8442907
that vomit pile is ita trash.

>>8442907
>>8442984
>>8446881
I feel like at least the tshirt is not the thing that makes it ita...she just doesnt have a sense of style

>>8420214
I honestly did not know that

>>8442907
It's okay anon, I think this is pretty cute

>>8442907
whats this girls tumblr?

>>8442907
I really like this, I just don't think it needs the rose or star clip, seems like overkill for a fairly casual, punky type lolita outfit. If being really nitpicky, I think the smaller striped bow needs to go up higher, worn closer to the larger one.

I like how she clearly has fun with and experiments with the fashion though. I know 'punk lolita' isn't a lot of people's cup of tea, especially since it clashes with notions or elegance and well-balanced coordination. I don't think it's 'ita' in itself though, and love it when it's done well (subject to interpretation yadda yadda).

>>8448762
*of

>>8448762
i think punk lolita reminds Westerners too much of mallgoths, emo, scene, etc., and the teenagers that go with it. they associate the look with cheap Hot Topic shit and adolescent angst.

i like it too but it is difficult to overcome the social context for the stripes, plaid, funky hair styles, mixed patterns and textures, all that.

>>8448793

>>8448798
just gonna dump some various cutsew looks

>>8448801

>>8448805

>>8448810

>>8448813

<--otome or casual? sometimes i can't tell.

>>8448816
dropped pic

>>8448817

>>8448817
otome

>>8448849
elaborate why?

is it just me, or is the standard for casual lolita much higher than it used to be?

>>8449345
The top is cute but simple in style, the skirt has a yoke waistband and modest poof, the top, skirt, and tights have noticeable patterns that play off each other rather than match, and the motifs are not sugary sweet, elaborate Victorian, or gothy. The accessories are also cute but understated and the shoes are relatively mature. Those pieces could be coordinate with lolita, but put all together like that in one outfit it's an otome aesthetic.

>>8449490
Definitely, but that's because the availability of proper lolita garments is much higher so there's less excuse to look like shit.

>>8449490
It is. Western lolitas are make up rules out of their asses so anything disqualifies being lolita.

>>8449633
No, it's because Western lolitas are weird bossy control freaks. They'll snark on coordinates brands use in advertising.

>>8449662
Ok, but the bar has still been raised due to ease of availability. The coordinates that get tossed around as examples of 'REAL' casual, like the cutsew and skirt with no accessories type, are generally 5+ years old, which you can tell by the use of old(er) school items in a lot of them.

And before you decide to accuse me of being an OTTlita, I'm not. It's just a relevant factor in the raised expectations of all coordinates.

>>8449689
You don't have to cover yourself with accessories just because it's "available".

>>8449689
Are you really trying to argue that "accessibility" has raised the bar beyond coordinates that brands themselves put together? Because, uh...

>>8449701
You don't have to, but having an item or two that keeps the outfit actually styled in a lolita manner rather than 'it's lolita because I'm wearing a skirt and I say so' helps.

>>8449713
Uh, no? I never said anything about that. You did.

>>8449721
So you prefer "it's lolita because I have some accessories and I say so" noice

>>8448793
I think you hit the nail on the head anon.

>>8442907
>>8439290
I'm a goth and I would never wear my band shirts with lolita. I'm sorry, but Christian Death is not kawaii. It just doesn't fit the look.

>>8425134
Adorable! I really need to get some

>>8450153
>goth
>kawaii

>>8451455
>goth
>not kawaii

Anyone have a pic of bodyline P145 worn?

I always thought they were called cutsews because you could cut up a knit shirt and sew it back together with bows and ruffles from the same material. Or at least that's how I imagine they started.