/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

How much do you guys sell your artsbouvine bags for?

ugh i was anon that posted on the last thread a little while before about vograce and another company responding to my emails and inquiries. The other company has responded and sent their sample, Vograce on the other hand has not made a single peep. I've messaged multiple times with multiple days in between each message. Either they are deliberately ignoring me or just unresponsive to the alibaba messages?? Would anyone happend to have the email for vograce on hand so I can just email them instead of having to deal with them through alibaba?

Yeah Digit, don't you know that chans are a horrible and disgusting place to be, lol XD?

>>8441712
$7 for small ones, $10 for medium

>>8441859

Thank you kind anon!

>>8441763
Vograce has been super busy/unresponsive lately. Coco is so apologetic though, and I would feel bad for badgering her if I hadn't paid so much + fast shipping. There's been a lot of delays in orders in the past month or two. If you don't mind anon, which is the other company you've contacted and how do you like them?

>>8441861
are there any other examples of nice button display ideas? still struggling with my own.

What do you guys think about services like
MinZ Princesses?
This seems basically to be art theft and they could be in a lot of legal trouble.

>>8442163
whoops dropped pic AND it messed up my formatting. :(

Anyways they're like a "pay me and I'll print whatever picture you want on an article of clothing" service. I'm sure there's a lot of legalities surrounding this kind of business model since they're selling copyrighted images on shirts like pic related and also Disney "inspired" (more like straight up disney) skater dresses. I know Disney gets really uptight about people selling fan art.

>>8441712
What's an artsbouvine bag?

>>8441707
How many prints do you guys print of each thing for a convention?

Last year I posted my painting of the King of All Cosmos grocery shopping that I was to enter into my first Otakon art show. It actually sold lol. and for over twice the minimum bid.
I want to do a series of them now that I'm signed up for my first AA. If you anons have stupid ideas of mundane boring things the King could do, id love to hear them. The best I could come up with so far is taking a bath, and putting gas in his shitty car with the Prince eating mcdonalds in the back seat.

>>8442181
taking a shit

My friend is selling their decal equipment and I was thinking of buying it since she has a lot of stuff, and I have some ideas, but was curious how well decals go over at a con?

>>8442171
A bag printed by that place with cow after arts. The spamfilter won't let us say it.

>>8441763
Are you that one anon that asked for samples from the washi tape supplier? Please post your samples when you get them.

>>8442188
>cow after arts

Ohhh,I gotacha

>>8442181
I don't have any ideas, but I want to see this.

>>8442130

Unfortunately not really. There was this picture a thread or two back. I really love the faux-frame look she has.

>>8442206

sorry dropped picture

I was at a con last weekend and saw one vendor who was practically hiding behind their overabundance of wire racks (which weren't even used to display product).
Yeah it's annoying when vendors start shouting their sales pitch when you even glance at their booth, but hiding like that makes you look reclusive and sad.

Don't do that.

>>8442203
>>8442206

Also the blue picture frame (8x10 or 8.5 x11 I believe) was my first button display. It served its purpose but I out-grew it pretty fast. I think picture frames though in general can look really cute and a bit more professional.

>Its my goal to have a beautiful stunning table one day
>also sorry for shit picture, it was just already on my computer

>>8442214
Wait, so they just had wire racks just to have them or what? I mean, if you're not displaying product on them, I can't imagine why you would have them at all.

Is buying a button machine a worthwhile investment? They're really expensive, holy shit

>>8442187
some cons don't let you sell stickers or decals because dumb people stick them on hotel or convention center property and the con has to pay the repair charges, so double check that.

Mostly, people expect decals to sell for cheap like $1 for a small one. It's definitely a more hit or miss product than sticker sheets and charms.

>>8442244
Thanks! I might just skip out on the equipment then and do charms and buttons.

>>8442222

Mehhhh. I know a guy who runs a button making business and he even thinks its not worth it sometimes.

Like if you plan to continue doing cons a lot, you definitely will make your money back for it eventually. But you also have to consider the time it takes you to make the buttons themselves. When you outsource they just show up all ready to go, plus they're still relatively cheap.

I'd say the only super good thing owning a button machine allows you is to do convention button commissions? But if you dont care then maybe dont bother.

Where is cookie anon? I want some tips on how to ice/decorate cookies like she does.

>>8442275
They kinda shoo'd her out of these threads. Her tumblr is cartooncookiekitchen though, maybe you can ask her there.

>>8442130

The button desplays I did this year were really simple and cheap to do, stacked/packed flat. I got some cheapo steel art prints/signs from michaels and covered them with white paper (or you could use magnetic whiteboard panels).... bought a bunch of rare earth magnets in bulk from china off of ebay, and voila. Made a sample of each button design that didn't have a pin in the back, and stuck it to the panel with a magnet. It was a lot less messy than using cork tiles because people are gonna pull on the display no matter what you do, at least this way the button comes right off with no damage. You just gotta periodically look over and make sure no one's shuffled your samples around. No one stole any, either!

Also made little printed logos to stick to the boards so people would immediately recognize what series they were looking at. Seemed to help a lot; had loads of people recognizing kind of otherwise generic looking characters.

The panels hung off our grid racks with clips, and packed flat in our luggage.

Howdy. I found this little hand badge machine thing while searching through badge machines and dying at the price of them.

Have any of you guys come across one of these? They're $50. Are they worth it? It seems to good to be true.

>>8442258
Alright, I might outsource them.

I live in Australia, does anyone know of any good places to to order buttons?

>>8442311
They are too good to be true, if you're looking to make buttons in bulk. They take a long time to make each one, the process is fiddly, and you're pretty likely to throw more parts away than you would if you got a tecre/whatever machine.

I guess if you're only looking to make a very small number of buttons for a hobby kinda thing, they're fine, but for sale production, I wouldn't recommend it.

>>8442314
Damn... alright. Thought that might be the case. Thanks

>>8442315

If you're looking into investing in a machine to make buttons, maybe check locally and see if there's anyone in your area who sells parts and machines? Sometimes places like that sell refurbs for cheaper than the new ones.

Questions for people who sell acrylic charms:
>Raster or vector?
>Where do you get them done?
>What size do you get?
>How much do you sell them for?
>How do you display them?
>How well do they sell?

pic related are my charms. They're 1" and I sell them for $5. I used Ink It Labs and like how they turned out, although next time I will get them with candy gloss. They don't sell very well, though. I think it's because 1) they're too small and 2) they're pretty plain and not detailed.
I want to order different charms in the future, so I'd like to see what other people do. Any advice is appreciated.

>>8442412
I use vector, most of my friends use raster
Inkitlabs
1.5"
$10 ea 3 for $25, friend is testing $12 ea 3 for $30
On a board that lets people flip them, no packaging no added charms
Incredibly well, about half my revenue now is charms (the other half is prints)

>>8442412
I don't mean to be that guy but those are kinda ugly and not even the ugly cute.

I do wire wrapped jewellery, with tumbled stones
but I thought it might be neat to do it with a resin domed image of say like a sailor moon brooch or other magical girl shit
do ya'll think it would be worth the extra bit of effort or should I just bulk buy some cheap cabochon settings instead.

Thanks in advance

>>8443384
can you draw said image? art theft is generally frowned upon.

>>8443375
they look adorable to me

>>8443397
yes, I can, sorry forgot to mention. I wouldn't just steal an image

Has anyone had any luck with magnets? I can't draw for shit, but I'm pretty confident as a sculptor. I've also got a lot of experience with silicone mold-making, which means I could make multiple copies of a magnet from a single master sculpt. My only concern is that they need to be hand-painted, so for it to be worthwhile in relation to the time invested, I'd need to sell them for like $10-15 a pop. Anyone here have any experience selling sculpted goods? Do they sell well enough to be viable?

I have a question how would you manage with thieves? Would it be wrong to have all selling products in a glass case and some with that black what's it called strapped to the metal boxes? While having everything else behind the table in draws?

I feel like having everything on table and not just displays would be bad, because of wandering hands and it's so crowded and you can only keep up with so much. A log too to keep up with how much stock was sold.

Any tips for opening an online store? I'm planning on selling simple things like pouches and charms; I'm from Europe so I don't want shipping to be off-putting for customers from outside of the EU.

How do you pay for product costs, with preorder money (if at all) or just out of your own pocket and then making it back?

What platform for selling would you guys recommend, and is there any advice you wish someone had given you when you started with a store?

Is anyone else getting fucked up the ass by Zap's shitty customer service? Other than inkit, does anyone have a good charm printing company that does materials other than clear acrylic? (A chunk of my stock is wood and coloured acrylic)

Jackie giving us words of wisdom...

So I'm planning on making charms/keychains for the first time, but I'm not sure if my style works for small things like charms, so I wanted to ask if I could have some input on it.

Here is an example, it's just a coloured sketch obviously but just to give an idea.

>>8443996
that's fucking adorable anon, would love to see acrylic charms in that style (cleaned up of course)

>>8443375
Thanks for the honesty. I hear poros sell pretty well among league fans so maybe my charms just aren't appealing. I'd like to hear critique if you have any so I can improve.

>>8443398
Thank you, I'm glad you think so.

>>8442412
i actually don't think they look ugly, but i think for, example, that the one on the left could stand to have its tongue a little defined. i don't know what's going on with the one in the right. the eyes are different sizes and are a little crooked, plus i don't know what's going on with its mouth, which makes it unappealing.

Also planning on making keychains/charms soon. Would my style benefit with some lineart or something? Still feels unfinished to me.

>>8443996
anon, that is so cute. I think your style definitely works!

>>8444257
i think this is really cute, but it needs a little bit more contrast.

>>8444242
I didn't realize the eyes were uneven, thanks for pointing that out. Perhaps shading would solve these clarity issues? My other lineless works are shaded (as opposed to flat like my charms).

>>8444331
that might work, though i like your flat coloring.

I would also love some feedback on this charm design! Are the colors contrasted enough, and is the background/border ok?

>>8444470
I like the design but I feel like her neck is too long.

>>8443996
I'd buy the fuck out of this, anon

>>8442114
the other company I contacted was Huayuan for washi tape. During the solstice there was a dely, but after that they get to my emails within about 2 or so hours when its daytime over there. Its nice, but I need to receive their sample before I make any final judgments and so far the tracking hasn't moved from "received shipment info" from last Thursday.
I did manage to find the email for Kylin (a different worker at vograce) and contacted her through that. Turns out she was away from work(?) so she said she would get back to me tomorrow with all the information I had asked.

>>8443907
HEHHHHHH.

I might be a little presumptuous but I'm fairly sure she's referencing what I told her at fanime. The fact that she is still salty months fucking later is just...Lord give me strength to keep my sides attached to my body.

>>8443764
It seems like a lot of charm printing services are getting fucked recently. I know 3 artists within my general peer group who got fucked over by Inkit pretty hardcore, Chillypig is, unsurprisingly, not able to handle the pressure of increased volume and apparently Zap has always had the weakest customer service of the three so them fucking up is not anything new.

I think your only shot might be to find some merchants on alibaba aside from vograce.

>>8443996
That's so damn cute, are you planning on doing all the girls in those outfits? Because I'd buy a few.

>>8444693
>got fucked over by Inkit pretty hardcore
How so? I don't think I've heard any complaints about them yet.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-01/funimation-issues-statement-on-fan-art-and-trademark-rights/.89972

I wonder what this means for AA artists who do work of Funimation IPs. I want to say they're trying to say "As long as you don't put logos on it, we're cool," but...

>>8444715
Roomie- put in her order a good 3 weeks before the con, keeping in mind their turnaround time (11 days or something?). Their place flooded, they weren't able to finish her charms in time, said they'd overnight it but didn't overnight it which meant she didn't get her charms in time for con (they duplicated her order and hand-delivered it, since the con was in Texas, which was good, but wouldn't have happened if they hadn't fucked up the first time). She also had an incident where she clearly communicated to them where the package was supposed to go, but they still fucked up the delivery and sent it to the wrong address.

Friend- They fucked up the coloring and pattern on my friend's charms. Like some of the character's limbs were different colors, patterns that weren't even on the original designs appeared on charms they weren't supposed to (she was doing FNAF charms- for example, for some reason they printed some stars on her Freddy charm, and her charms for Freddy, Fox, and the rabbit had oddly-colored limbs- not even shades off, but like completely different hues). She got them earlier this week so obvs. there's no way she can get them fixed in time for AX

Some other artist my roomie knows- Fucked up on delivering on-time, basically.

I know a lot of their recent mishaps have been because of flooding that happened at their headquarters, but I mean, their customers are constantly checking in and being very clear about their expectations through multiple emails explaining and confirming deadlines, delivery locations, etc.

>>8444735

Well, that's the big thing they're saying. But it looks like they're also saying don't use character names, even in displays. I have heard of them asking artists to remove character labels from displays.

I'm looking at my own art now and there are character names all over the place... ugh. Now I don't know what to do. I have one AA table this year and it's a DFW con so I can bet that they'll be out in full force combing the AA there.

>>8444738
>>8444715
Oh, to be fair, statistically hiccups will happen. I think my roomie has a right to be pretty pissed at them, though, because they've fucked up 2/3 of the orders she's made through them.

>>8444693
Yeah I got skipped over by zap's print queuand one of my friends orders just totally slipped past quality control. They look like misaligned ass but they're saying it's his fault somehow even though it is a reprint that printed fine before. Chillypig as a whole is subpar imo and inkit was only going to be my last resort anyways.

Basically I'm so salty you could use me for ramen broth.

>>8441707
Oh shit that's kawaiiboku from my local con.

>>8444735
>>8444744
They approached each table individually at A-kon. They just didn't bother me, just looked everything over, but I know they asked the table next to me to take down one print because it had a name on it. My table partner sells pic related, and they had to talk it over for a bit. Apparently, had he been selling them in the dealer hall, they'd make him remove them immediately, but because their Artist Alley rules are more lenient, and because technically it wasn't a trademarked logo (yet? They were ambiguous about it, but they made it sound like it could become an issue in the future) they told him he could continue selling them.

>>8444934

An awful lot of the symbols within their shows are copyrighted, and I'm sure if they're not, then they will be doing it soon.

I do a lot of typographic prints and stuff (pics is mine) and they do have character names. Obviously if the name is trademarked, it's a violation (and even if not, they probably have the right to ask me to remove it). So now I'm kinda like... well, this sucks. Do I try to have these at the con? Levi was my top seller last year.

It's not like I can't make other prints, but I guess that up until now my style of prints and such has leaned on character names and that will have to change. It's easier to leave names and stuff off of my drawings, but these types of typographic prints are different.

>>8444470
Oh gosh please post your store or some kind of social media! I need this charm since not a lot of people make Hanayo stuff.

>>8444693
What exactly did you say to her? Did you say it to her face?

>>8443384
If you made it into something cute and brightly colored like a Madoka soul gem, I'd buy a ton of them.

>>8444020
Thank you, it's very motivating to hear that!

>>8444257
Thanks! Your design looks very nice too, I think it can work without lineart.

>>8444495
Again, it's very motivating to hear that.

>>8444715
I'm still deciding. I want to do all 9 girls in either those outfits, or all in a different UR outfit. My main issue is though, do I want to instantly get 9 different designs made, since this probably means I'll need to do quite the order.

>>8445272
If you're curious enough, hit me up on twitter or tumblr (t1mco) (or fb if you know me personally). As much as I'd love to wordvomit the entire account (as phenomenally awkward and hilarious as it was), it's not really thread-relevant and if Jackie sees it, she'll probably turn it into something even more convoluted due to her apparently poor reading comprehension skills.

>>8445527
>do I want to instantly get 9 different designs made, since this probably means I'll need to do quite the order.
I totally get that. I'm working on a set of LL chibis right now too, and it would be super cool to make charms but I don't think I have enough of an audience to risk making such a big order.

>>8445545
I'll message you on Tumblr.

>>8445527
Instead of getting all 9 made at once, you could release them by mini idol group (Printemps, BiBi, lily white). That way, you only have to order 3 designs each time. You could do the set of 9 after the first run of all the charms.

>>8445527
You could also hop off of >>8445596's idea and just do the mini idol groups on one charm. It might be a little tricky composition-wise, but it's different from what most people do and it'll be way cheaper for you.

I think most people like the mini-groups on their own too.

>>8445584
Yeah, since I want to use it as a first set of products for my shop (I want to set it up sometime this summer) I don't want to risk too big of an initial investment.

I was thinking of opening preorders and ordering two 50 charms bags from Zap (I'm EU based so it's the least worst when it comes to shipping) where I can do two times 5 designs.

I'll probably keep them one-sided since I don't know how the backs look and it pretty much makes the producing costs double the price.

>>8445596
>>8445598
That actually sounds like a nice idea too; maybe all of them in the new Marine outfits? Which is the one I drew the Umi in.

>>8445601
I've never printed charms before, but my friends who make charms say that most buyers think that one sided charms are the norm anyways. I believe the back of Zap charms is just solid colored acrylic

Imo double sided is cool, but since it's your first time doing charms I think you should stick with one sided to keep the costs down and to build up your reputation as a seller before selling items which would cost more.

I have heard not so favorable reviews about Zap products recently though. From what I've read, their images get printed misaligned a lot and the thickness of their acrylic varies between batches.

>>8445602
>>8445608
Or a simple pattern/design on the back is nice too!

>>8445598
http://panicprince.tumblr.com/ did this and I think it looks so so cute. Though as you can see they're organized by year - personally I much prefer grouping by subunit but I don't know about anyone else. The new marine outfits are adorable too.

>>8445608
For me the issue is that since I'm EU based, getting my charms made outside of the EU will mean a big increase in shipping costs and even worse, import fees. Zap unfortunately is the most close company the produces charms. Inkit seems nice too, but I'll need to check how much shipping would be.

Thanks for the tips btw!

>>8445617
>>8445618
Those look very nice! And yeah it's kind of tricky; do you divide them by year or by subunit. I personally will go for subunit though.

>>8444481
Thank you so much - I fixed it, and it looks a lot better!

>>8445272
Oh gosh, that's so flattering! I really, really love your charm too and will need one when it's done. Like, pronto.

What are you guys' thoughts on this? Like...does this mean they'll be sending someone around at cons where they have a table in the dealers room and just hand out cease and desists? What are they even trying to achieve from this.

I'm getting a few new sources for charms including clear and metal ones as well as testing out some PVC/rubber keychains. I did get some metal charm samples via alibaba, but I was disappointed with the results. I did find a company that looks promising.

I'm also getting samples for things like wallscrolls, clear files, stationary, and some US places for mugs and lanyards and other things.

May take a minute but I'll update the source list as things come in.

>>8446013
So, if I read correctly as long as we don't include the show names/logos we should be alright?

>>8446013

This was already posted in the thread. See >>8444735 >>8444744 >>8444934

In terms of art it looks like it covers logos primarily, but potentially show and character names. It definitely includes having a show or character name on a display like saying, "Hetalia chibis."

>>8446034
Thank you Digit! May I ask what happened with your metal charm samples?

/r/ing some good jewelry setups, I'm planning on doing my first AA soon and I need some inspiration.

>>8446034
Love you Digit, keep us posted!

>>8445618
I wish these were on a fairy kei necklace with like, rainbow beads and I would buy 10
>tfw nothing to put phone charms on

>>8446236
why not buy it, get a beading set and make them yourself? That way you can make them exactly the way you like.

>>8446236
I've been wondering if people really use their charms...

>>8446302
Yep! I use the charms I buy from other people. I have a Madoka and Homura set that I use to mark my Gamecube controllers when I lend them out. I had a perler on my phone before the strap snapped. I also plan on getting some of Shunao's Guilty Gear charms for my school bag when she reopens her store.

Btw if anyone knows people who sell fighting game related charms or buttons, hmu. I'm always looking for cute things of my mains. Also Hanayo.

>>8446302
I use them, but I've seen many people just display them on corkboards in their rooms. (along with other merch such as stickers and buttons)

I've also heard of people buying doubles just so they can use and have one for keepsake.

>>8442163
>>8442170
I work in screen printing and our company does sublimation like this as well. People send us copyrighted stuff constantly, like holy shit the military is the worst about it, disney shit like donald duck all the time. We just make them sign a thing saying they're responsible for getting the rights to whatever they're getting printed.

>>8444277
Thank you anon! I think it looks better now.

In the last thread we had some people share what was the most money they ever made at a convention, but I felt like it was mostly print artists. I'm a craft artist looking to expand, what is the most you fellow plushie/jewelry/craft artists have ever made per-con?

>>8447804
I can't speak for any of them, but there's a really cool report of profits and other statistics from almost 200 artists, if you haven't seen it yet.

>http://kiriska.com/misc/research/2014_artistalley_survey.pdf

>>8445618
I love these designs sooo much

>>8444257
not cute

>people laughing and telling me my prints are cute/funny/awesome
>people literally screaming in excitement after looking at my prints
>they all walk away without buying anything

i sold one print today. are people lying to me? does my work only appeal to people who don't spend money??? i don't get it

>>8448125
Maybe your work has that 'fad' appeal? Is it edgy and/or 'meme'-like? Post an example? I can find something amusing without wanting to keep it in my room. Who knows, maybe your current sample population is an outlier.

>>8447940
Aren't they cool? I know nothing about yowapeda but I love the format of these too.

>>8448179
If these were sold in an actual gachapon machine, I would buy so many.

How do you get yourself motivated to draw? It's crunch time for me, and yet I can't bring myself to make any progress with my pieces. I just open Photoshop and stare at it.

> and how do you get your friend to work on his/her AA stuff too

>>8446013
>>8446077
How the hell is this going to work since funimation doesn't even have an exclusive copyright in the U.S. for most of their stuff? With stuff from the AA and most things from Funimation, the anime comes from a manga/light novel. Which have different publishers. So how the hell is this going to work?
>pic related in so many ways

>>8444771

OP here. I know it is. I'm a local con goer in vancouver as well. They always have such a cute table set up, incredibly jelly

>>8448158
here's 3 of them. i know they're not great so them not selling doesn't bother me that much. i was actually really happy about all the compliments but after the 20th time this happened it was just really discouraging.

>>8448290

They don't really need exclusive copyright or trademark, though? You yourself don't have trademark rights, so even if your fanart is from the light novel instead of the anime, you still don't have the rights to distribute anything from the light novel, so funimation can ask you to take it down.

From the posts >>8446077 linked though, it seems like you just need to avoid naming the characters and avoid blatant logos. It does seem like they're doing the littlest bit possible to protect their trademark and not trying to take down fanartists, actually.

>>8447530
oh my gosh, yes! it definitely looks so much better!

>>8448414
Are you charging a fair price? Using quality paper?
These look juvenile at best.
Add some outlines (doesn't have to be black) to help figures pop. Looks washed out overall.
They're funny though.

>>8443446
Is this your art?
Because holy shit please tell me you have a store I can purchase this print from.

Are bookmarks good sellers?

Do people even read books anymore?

>>8450711
not really, they've kinda been demoted into being preorder freebies for zines and have hit trashy tier ever since everyone started doing prism bookmarks. Some people will buy them as mini prints though (and I personally like them, but I carry books in my purse and match them to the mood of my current read so I might be an outlier).

For printing, how much do you guys usually get charged per A4 print?

>>8450968
Jesus Christ, I still don't know how any artist alley allows this kind of shit

Is it okay to sell dakimakura at cons?

>>8451249
If they aren't R-18 like just the character lying on a bed fully clothed, they should be ok.
If it's R-18, you should ask the head of the AA.

>>8448240
>> and how do you get your friend to work on his/her AA stuff too

do you know their situation?

i have a hard time getting started and my life is stressful (illness, relatives needing care, etc.). i get discouraged and exhausted. if someone messaged me to say, "i hope you're feeling well and that you are able to make something cool today!" it would motivate me to get back to work and make me feel better about this feelful time.

if it is regular procrastination, direct confrontation can help or it can worsen it. but you mention struggling to work on art too. so that is perfect: "hey friend, i have been in a slump. want to be accountability buddies?"

>>8450711
>>8450805
Not that anon, but what do you think is the hot new thing? I wanted to invest in the smaller prism prints since it doesn't suffer the shipping costs of a normal sized print, but I'm guessing something else might be better?

Maybe pouches?

>>8450968
How do you even transport that...

>>8448414
Good concepts, but the actual artwork is lacking.
People are laughing, but they don't want them on their wall.

>>8446077
Of course, that raises questions about whether you could use euphemistic names that don't explicitly mention anything. Like, they'd have every right to ask you to take down a label for buttons from Free!, but could they do the same if you labeled it "Homoerotic Swimming Anime?"

>>8442307
>Using logos on display
>ishygddt

>>8452080

I imagine some artist doing the same as the localization for the jojo game and having ridiculous equivalents.

Like, imagine someone with a sign that reads "Gratuitous!"

>>8452138
Honestly, I might just have to do this for my Anime Boston booth, given that Funimation has a pretty big presence there. Find kinda-similar-but-not-the-same fonts for everything, too. I mean, many of the super-popular bread-and-butter sellers are Funi properties, anyway.
>Reptile Orb
>Strike the Giants
>Cosmic Pompadour Guy
>Wings: Stockpile Story

>>8452176
i like the way this line of thought is developing

>>8452195
>Funeral Procession
>Natural Hair Warrior
>Completely Mechanical Wizard
>Seasoning the Canine
>Urban Flesheater

>>8451317
> i hope you're feeling well and that you are able to make something cool today!
That's what I ended up doing, haha. I invited them to my place since they said they worked more efficiently with people around. I am/was a little worried because they tend to be late with deadlines, and we both can't afford to be late with deadlines.

>>8452203
>Dark Manservant
>period-Exploit
>Single Chunk
>Shinobi Killer
>DangleGrandpa: The Animated Series
>Blacker than Dark
>Foxtrot Lima Charlie Lima
>Spook in the Carapace
>Sanguine Stronghold Frontline
>Ronin Shampoo
>Admiral Amphibian
>Rocks;Door
>The Matspace
>lmao 3gun
>Lily Bear Storm
It's going to look like a weird bootleg vendor, and it'll be hilarious.

>>8450968
I've seen the same perler designs like 20,000 times, it's exhausting.

>>8450711
idk my bookmarks sell really well, but I also don't price them too high. It really depends on the art and if they're interesting enough just like anything else.

>>8448125
Also consider if you're being friendly and engaging, or ignoring. I had a friend with good art who didn't sell much cause he sat there ignoring everyone and not even faking a smile.

>Demons feel Sad
>Clenched Hand of the Pole Star
>Gay Swimming Anime
>Poltergeist in a Hard Covering
>Regretful Coronet
>World War 2: The Anime
>Medusozoa Royalty
>Destiny Journal
>InfernoChorus

>>8452405
>>lmao 3gun
kek'd

Does anyone else feel jealous when they look at artists who get really cool stuff made? I've seen tons of Korean artists in particular post tons of nice merch.

>Theatrical HomoCide
>Crystallized H2O
>Knotted
>Assault on Giant
>Dulahanhanhan
>Noise Small Tuba
>Tiny Horse of Mine
>Revengers
>Archangel of the commencement
>CompleteMetallic Chemist
>Sodium Hyperchlorite
>AU Hour
>Ebony Bay

>>8452176
I>>8452176
>>8452203
>>8452405
>>8452487
>>8453025
Oh my god, this is so hard...

>>8442307
that actual stock art of ao oni tho

>>8450968
>perlers are an art

>>8453025
>>Theatrical HomoCide
>>Dulahanhanhan
>>Sodium Hyperchlorite

>Fraternity of Totally Plated Wizards
>Ebony Manservant
>Wyrm Sphere Zed
>Triumvirate Hemoglobin
>Final Expatriot
>Fortunate Celestial Body
>O Deity of Mine
>Spirit Snacker
>Spiral System of Floormats
>Dawnward Paradise
>Produce Container
>Excessive Epic

"I honestly think the only similarity is the tagline"

"it’s been over two years (!!) since i did a short comic about wonder woman and cosplay that some of you may remember! (you may also remember the piece that sarah and catherine satrun did the same year that i definitely had in mind while i did this one!) a lot of things have changed about me since then, including my art! so i decided to return to the theme in a happier way.

we’re all wonder women!"

So plagirism is all right now if you have good intentions, according to thumbcramps

>>8454118
She credited them....

>>8454118
To be fair both pieces are try hard shit, but at least the top one doesn't add in unnecessary randomly coloured hair, tatoos and a muslim girl.

>>8454118
Dude, they're all wearing Wonder Woman costumes, of course it'll look similar. The style is different, the people are different.

>>8454118
whats the point of even crediting if you're just doing the same thing, its not like you're taking a particular pose or drawing someone's character or a specific clothing design you're literally making the exact same poster

>>8454132
the concept is still the same

>>8454118
One guy tagged the creators of the one on the left.

>>8454367
Well the creator doesn't sound too happy about it

>>8454367
I don't blame them for feeling that way. If thumbcramps had made it clear on every venue she posted her drawing that "I wanted to do a tribute to x piece by y artist, check theirs out too, it's just for myself and I won't sell it" etc then I think that would have been more okay, but the way she posted it in the group without any mention of the original and then backpedaled when called out on it seems like she wanted no one to notice. Oh and apparently plagiarism is also cool if it "has a different vibe" than the original.

For those that run online stores: what is everyone's preferred method of shipping? Especially internationally? Like fedex, usps, dhl, etc.

>>8454757
I don't run a store, but as a (non-US) customer, in my experience FedEx is the fucking worst. I will refuse to shop at a store that uses them exclusively. DHL I will put up with but they're annoying too. I would personally prefer USPS.

>>8454757
>>8454811
I'm alright with FedEx as a Canadian shopper, but UPS and Purolator just make me want to light a fire to their headquarters on a daily basis. Puro especially because they make me play phone tag to confirm random bullshit like my address every time. UPS is reliable but their leverage fees are fucking stupid if you are hit with them.

I prefer USPS by a long shot even if they are only mediocre.

>>8454757
I sell everything through my etsy store and their shipping part of the site which is USPS. Few problems usually just pissed that sometimes my post office doesn't scan the tracking barcode every time so plenty of times people are complaining that the tracking doesn't update until the day the package shows up.

>>8454757
>>8454811
>>8454848
As a consumer, Canada Post/USPS/etc. is preferable. I'm alright with FedEx and Purolator, but if someone only sells with UPS or DHL, then I'm not touching that within a ten foot pole. It's more headaches than it's worth.

>>8454135
Yeah, but the concept is generic as hell. Hurrah body diversity in cosplay, huzzah.

How do you guys feel about people selling art of youtubers and stuff (Markiplier, game grumps, etc)? Personally, I always kind of inwardly cringe when I see it. I mean, I know they're putting on a bit of a persona, but it still feels a little too much like selling merch of a cutesy over-idealized version of a real life person.

>>8455231
>real life loser
fixed

>>8455231
Honestly if it's just straight up caricatures of them and stuff, I don't really care, as long as the people depicted don't mind. I used to find it cringey too but I guess I got used to it, most of them seem to like getting fanart and there are sometimes official products like that.

>>8452176
>>8452203
>>8452405
>>8452487
>>8453025
>>8453748

These are the best!

>>8450968
How much art did they actually make and not trace from someone else's work?

>>8444963
Cheesey as it is, you could take all your prints with trademarked names and make them look a little worn with age or something. So the name gets scratched out but it's still kinda obvious who it is.

>>8442311

I have an even cheaper version of that, made for kids essentially does it's job nonetheless.
It's called "Suki Button Factory"
It came with I think 50 button parts and 2 simple contraptions, I find them easy to make as I make a small amount, I've had it for a couple of years and still works for me.
Tedious even making small portions though.

>>8455797
Probably none of them, but I'm having trouble finding sources on the really huge Lightning and Link ones. All the other one I recognize from games.

>>8455970
I definitely have seen the Lightning one before. I highly doubt anything being sold there is original

Those of you who sell prints, is 200gsm paper preferred?

Does anyone know how to deal with sorta-kinda bootleggers? There's a girl selling "swag snapbacks" that are clearly a rip off of Anime Trash Swag's snapbacks. She kickstarted the costs for manufacturing and started cutting her prices at AX making her a literal bootlegger (you can literally buy the spiked/horned snapbacks in bulk off of aliexpress/alibaba). It's not like ATS has a copyright or anything (yet?) but I wish there was a way for people to know that these bootleggers are nothing but that and that they shouldn't be supported. Their fanbase is nowhere near as big as ATS but I also don't want it to grow...

I saw her booth at AX today and spitefully asked her if she was ATS. Fake ass bitch told me she wasn't and told me they were in the opposite direction of the actual ATS booth. As I left, I heard her table partner ask if ATS was actually here, like she was afraid of something, jfc.

Other than that, good AX
/endrant

What exactly are the requirements for getting a booth? I've seen some VERY amateur art that looks as if the artist has only been drawing for a couple of months.

>>8456218
I know who you're talking about.
Did she message anyone else directly asking them to fund her kickstarter and/or asking them to share it? Maybe it's just because I'm not into shameless self promoting, but it always rubs me the wrong way when you ask people individually for money, especially if you have to start your message with something like "I know we've never spoken", and already addressed that "I know you've seen it my kickstarter floating around on AANI". If I've already seen it, and I had no interest in donating, or even commenting or liking, what would asking me personally accomplish?

>>8456356
Depends on the con. Most cons are either first-come-first-serve, lottery, or juried. In the case of the first two, there really aren't any skill caps or requirements for getting one.

>>8456361
What's usually the case for bigger cons like AX and Fanime? Lottery sounds a little silly, unless previous artists are guaranteed a chance back in the following years.

>>8456403
AX is FCFS, Fanime is juried, and if the selected artists cancel, the remaining tables are sold through a lottery(? Not sure if this was the case this year, but it was last year).
There's not really a catch all for "bigger cons", since all three methods are seen at big name cons. I can say that smaller conventions tend to be FCFS though, since they may not always have the numbers to bother jurying, or running a lottery.

Has anyone wondered how that dodgeball comic guy in AANI manages to make money off his crap?

This email just popped up in my inbox. Not sure if everyone got the same free code or it's individual so I'm hesitant to post mine but I think if you haven't signed up for their emails, they'll send you one asap.

How do you guys display large amounts of stickers? I know cork boards are a good way, but I have a bunch of sets as well as individual ones. I was thinking of having a book set out that people could flip through to look at available stickers, what do you guys think?

>>8456476
This anon again. Too lazy to make anything so feel free to use my code.

Coupon Code: GIFTS15
Expiry Date: 7 / 10 / 2015
Effective Period: 30 days

>>8456476
>>8456490
FYI everyone gets the same codes.

What advice would you guys have for a noob? I've wanted to do a con stall for ages but I've never gotten round to it. Thanks!

Just offhand does anyone know the min order per design for vograce? The way they present that info on Ali is always so foggy to me

>>8452176
Ngl I'd buy "cosmic pompadour guy" merch.

>>8456863
No min order. They count total pieces, not pieces per design.

Thinkin about selling this as a print but I really want some feedback for it since I have a bad habit of fuckin with the colors a bit too much

>>8456609
Have different products at different price points. Prints for $10-$15, buttons for $1-$3, stickers for $1-$5, whatever. Just have more than just one type of item. Think of a good but efficient table setup before the con. Have a good suitcase to hold your stuff. If you want to actually make sales, be sure to draw things you like and make you happy, but don't forget to look at it objectively and think, "would other people actually buy this". Too many people forget that AA is also a business, so you have get off your high horse if you're on one and try to pander to your audience a little bit. Some people pander TOO much that you can tell by looking at their art that they're just following whatever's trending. If you can't have good small talk about something a subject you've drawn, don't do it.

If you just want exposure, just do whatever you want. Lots of people just jump into AA head on.

>>8457319

Its not your colors, but your pigeon anatomy. There is something funky going on with the head/face, looks kind of lop sided?

>>8454367
I really like her artwork but this comes across as "why buy it when I can make it" both are really great pieces but as an artist I would have asked if the first artist would be okay with me doing my own version before I just did it knowing how closely the two look.

>>8457336
Ah, yeah, I see what you mean. Sorry, I've been working on him all night and I feel rather dumb for not picking up on that till now

>>8447804
Just started going to conventions that weren't my local 500 attendee anime club style event. I only ever make about $200 after costs from the tiny local con. I made a little over 1k at Metrocon this year. Not as good as I had hoped, but I learned a lot.

>>8457319
You mind if I do a paintover with suggestions?

>>8457433
Not at all, go right ahead!

>>8457448
Very quick, but I'd bump up the contrast by working in the deep purple of the background into the shadows on your bird. Then I'd bump up the contrast in the other direction by bringing even brighter highlights coming from the glowing puddi. I used a bright golden yellow with the brush set to screen mode. I selected the puddi and increased the saturation on it to make it pop, then brought some of the colors from the rest of the image in to help define its form (a low opacity purple from the bird's shadow to help round out the bottom of the puddi)

I also made your clouds in the bg asymmetrical and made one of them pass behind the bird's head to help increase depth.

Something else I'd do that I really forgot is really make the bottom of the wings softer. You don't want sharp edges on things that are a) soft and b) in motion.

tl;dr work all the colors in your image through all parts of the image, and pump up the contrast.

>>8456490
>>8456476
Can one of you explain to me how to use this? Do I just type it in at checkout?

>>8457496
Will do! Thank you so much, you make so much sense. ;u; I'll report back once I think I fixed it up

If we're multiple artists working as a group (under a group name), would it be better to display our items separated into sections by artist or shuffle everything together (though still maintaining a button section, print section, etc.)? When 2 different artist share a table, I understand cutting it in half, but would it still apply if we're a group with shared costs/profits?

Idk where else to ask this, but does anyone know what these kinds of clips are called?

Anyone else kind of relieved that some of the long term people who have been in AX's artist alley won't be there next year since the online registration screwed them over? Not the amazing artists who deserve to be in the AA, but the ones who have just been lucky to get priority reg for the past couple of years.

>>8457593
There's people of all calibers that I hope don't return as well as a lot of people I hope will return.
For me, it's not their skills, it's their mannerisms. Small talk or asking me to break a bill, I'd be glad to do. I hate when they gloat about sales, take my stuff (like my tape or pens) without asking, that kind of behavior.
Also if they have an annoyingly large display which encroaches on my or other people's table space, I will hope with all my might that they cut their stock next year or don't come back.

Does anyone know any places to outsource something like a comic or artbook in China? I'm in Australia, so most printing places in the US are no-go based on shipping prices alone.

>>8457580
Zipper pulls?

>>8457580
Lanyard hooks

>>8457773
Zipper pulls are totally different things

I snagged all these pics for you Artist Alley Thread! Fresh from AX. So as you can see, nobody has the same style. There were booths I past and thought "pfft, ain't nobody going to buy anything from you." Literally sold stuff while I was thinking this. To each their own! So art away, fellow artists. Your art doesn't have to be AMAZING HOLY SHIT YOU DREW THIS HOW!? quality. It just has to be something that another person out there would like to own.

>>8458139

>>8458141

>>8458150

>>8457660
>mannerisms
The fb group is a fucking salt mine. They're being petulant as hell. It's like they forgot that AX is literally the largest anime convention in the United States.

>>8458166
Aaa that's my roomie!!

>>8458180
That's awesome. Jesus, the AA at AX is SO FUCKING HUGE. I was there all 4 days and I still didn't manage to see every booth.

>>8458139
All that prism print

>>8456218
I know who your talking about. She got permission from ATS to sell those hats so I don't see the problem.

>>8457558
i would separate into sections so that if someone likes a particular artist's style, they can find more from them easily.

>>8458150
>that punchline print

AAAAAaaa does anyone know the artist name??

>>8458139

I know prism bookmarks are everywhere, but what place offers full holographic posters like that? I'm thinking of doing a holo series and Google is no help right now.

>>8458209
Which ones is the Punchline?

Here's another booth that I thought wasn't going to sell anything, and then a girl bought 2. And they aren't even anime/fanbased anything. They're just really pretty landscapes.

>>8458218
I think these are lovely, but that display looks pretty bad. I'm not a print buyer though unless they're postcard sized, but having these in small size would pointless...

>>8458199
Pretty sure that's bullshit. I asked ats about them on their tumblr and they didn't seem super stoked about them and definitely didn't cite any affiliation. Talked to mf about them at ax and they were just as annoyed as I was about them, but there's really nothing they can actually do about it either which print just makes it more aggravating.

>>8458210
Jimi occasionally does them in their orders

>>8457868
Thank you kind anon!

Strange Juice!
I was trying to scour the floor for Punchline stuff.... should of just found that booth instead =_=;

>>8455970
I think the Lightning may be originally from William Niu? I'm not sure

>>8458218

>>8458166
Holy shit, is that a print of Morgan with Eevees?

>>8457319
>>8457496
Alright, I tried my best to follow Paintover-Anon's advice. How'd I do?

>>8458325

>>8458399

>>8458424

>>8458428

...oops. Didn't see the no photos sign until just now. Shhh. Nobody tell her.

<---- This chick was selling posters and pins out the ass. For such a simple idea, people sure did like them.

>>8458424
Pretty art, too bad they felt the need to include the title on some of these. It can work, but this just makes it look boring and less appealing.

>>8458445

THIS. I hate when they do that, cause then it looks like it's mass produced official art from the company.

>>8458440
I took this one to show the anons that have asked in past threads, "what is the quality you need to sell lots of stuff?" That simple and rather plain and boring Ruby and Sapphire sold out.

>>8458465
>simple
>plain
>boring

These are very interesting ways to spell "I'm jelly" anon.

Joking aside, yes it's not the most exciting print, but it's still rather nice art of a very popular show. So.

>>8458484
Oh no no no, I'm not dissing it at all, I'm just saying it's crazy simple. There are those artists that have like Rambrant oil painting style prints with epic background and amazing amazing compositions and angles and omg factor. This is still a nice piece, and congrats to her for selling out. I, however, personally, don't think it's anythin amazeballs. And that is why I didn't get one.

>>8458361
I like it! He looks so soft and fluffy. If I were you though I would add a little more detail to the background? It looks kind of unfinished compared to the foreground, the stars look especially rushed with some of them not being circular. If it actually IS unfinished, then I'm sorry, just ignore that. I'm planning a Lord Pudi print too, it's so fun.

>>8458497
Well, the other possibility is that the artist also considered it boring so they only brought a few of them, and thanks to the lack of Ruby/Sapphire (? I am literally guessing) it was more popular than expected and she had to print more.

If it seems oddly specific I have had this exact situation happen to me, just with a different series.

>>8458542
Lol it's fine, I wanted to make sure I didn't fuck him up before I did the finishing touches but thank you for pointing it out, I really appreciate it. And I agree, Okosan is so much fun to draw

>>8458558

I hadn't considered that she just didn't have enough. I'm dense like that. But it wasn't a lack of RxS, that's for sure. I'm sure EVERY table had one. Maybe like 2 didn't.

>>8443996
i'd buy this as it is.

>>8443375
Bitch gonna get cut who calls a poro ugly.

>>8452176
>>8452203
>>8452405
>>8452487
>>8453025
>>8453748

I had a lunch table full of industry nerds guessing all these and we had a blast. Blacker than Dark had us all laughing.

I'm seriously considering using these in my display just to be funny and avoid getting in trouble with a legal team.

>>8458465

Last one! I hope the giant ass photos will help everyone get an idea of what's out there in the AA and if they need to step up their game. Good luck!

>>8458680
lol how many did you guys figure out?

The answers to mine (>>8452487) are
>Devil May Cry
>Fist of the North Star
>Free!
>Ghost in a Shell
>Guilty Crown
>Hetalia
>Jellyfish Princess
>Future Diary
>Hellsing

>>8458726

Ooooow. My sides. I'm laughing like a lunatic over here. What's wrong with me.

>>8458440
You seem to forget that some of these artists are active in social media and have a big following. That artist is uguubear, one of the biggest League of Legends fan artists at the moment. Of course people are going to flock to her. Plus, simple prints are sometimes more appealing than super busy ones.

>>8458719
Nailed that secret photo

I really like seeing artists without a huge crossbar over their table like, I get having lots of merch you want to display but if it is at all feasible without, I just feel less crowded out and pushed back by the set up.

>>8458736
She usually has some fairly popular/e-famous streamers with her too, so that's usually a draw to her booth.

But yeah, simple prints tend to do really well. Simple, memey prints are a fuckin' gold mine. If you can handle people reading your prints three times a minute (or more), that's definitely a simple, easy way to make some cash.

>>8458726

Actually all of them but Future Diary. See, I thought Death Note for Destiny Journal (guess I was thinking themes, not title) but we saw an awful lot of familiar titles on the list. It was interesting, because ones I'd been puzzling over all night people got instantly. These were all so good (Devil May Cry still has me laughing)! It was a really fun game!

Would someone be willing to redline or give advice on how to fix something for me if I posted it here...? I thought I was done with a print but now the legs look off even though I thought I had the anatomy pass the decent threshold at the sketching stage. Something is weird and it'd be cool to get another pair of critical eyes on it since I'm so sick of looking at it and want to move on.

>>8459231
Yeah, sure. Asking /ic/ would be slightly more appropriate though.

>>8459235

Different anon but I post here sometimes for crit. I honestly find I get way better feed back here, since everyone in /ic/ is riding Loomis' dick.

>>8459231
Post it and I'll redline.

>>8459235
what this >>8459313 anon said, /ic/ can be good for very specific things, but if you posted anything anime as a print they'd just shit all over you and telling you to stop drawing anime.

>>8459604
Not if you post in the anime thread. I do agree with >>8459313 that a lot of the advice comes back to 'learn the fundamentals' and 'LOOMIS' though. Posting on here will get you good crit too, but it's more 'Is my art AA-appropriate?' and less 'Is my art okay?'. Like that tatoo artist once; their art wasn't bad, but probably would do poorly sales wise.

>>8458399
THIS IS MAYAKERN! She is one of two reasons I even went to the Artist Alley at AX. I looove her stuff so much! I bought over $50 of her stuff at Fanime this year, so I only went to see her at AX to grab a George keychain [a character from her comic Monster Pop!] and get a commission done [which I accidentally threw away....]. She is super nice and really fucking adorable.

>all these buttmad people in my feed about AX tables

I get that they feel like the should have priority over others in getting a table for next year, since they had one this year, but that way it would be incredibly difficult for foreign or new artists to get into the AA.
Would love to go there in a year or two to table myself though. Seems like tons of fun.

>>8459650
AX had the largest AA I have ever seen. It was crazy. But maybe thats just because everyone was so packed like sardines that it looked huge.

>>8459654
Going by my twitter feed (not American so I can't exactly visit AX myself easily) and all the people I follow that went to AX to table, it seems like THE con to table at. It's the one time each year everyone seems to be there instead of just a few people.

>tfw sitting at home watching people have fun and meet friends

>>8452478
yeah, I think this was also one of our problems. the first two days I was smiling at people but not engaging and since I barely got any sleep I probably looked pretty grumpy anyway. The third day I started asking people who looked like they were browsing if they had any questions or needed help which seemed like it helped plus it made people who weren't going to buy anything leave quicker lol. we ended up making more on saturday than we did on thursday and friday combined and sunday was even better. it was our first con so we made a bunch of mistakes in general but it ended up being a really great experience. honestly it was really surprising, we started our con prep maybe a month before the con and the only reason we didn't break even was because we bought a button maker.

ultimately I know I have a long way to go before I can do more than just break even but this was probably the best motivation I could ever have

>>8418673
Thanks a bunch for your help! If we ever meet, I owe you a lunch or something. Yeah, sports anime seems to be popular this season. I kind of want to do Yowamushi Pedal. I'm tired of drawing prints though, so I'll probably switch to doing charms/buttons for a bit. Can I ask how many charms/buttons per design does one usually get made for a con? I can't seem to find much information on that...

Also jumping onto the charms bandwagon: would pic related sell okay as buttons/charms? I was thinking of getting those acrylic ones where you insert paper inside.

>>8459643
YOU THREW AWAY YOUR COMMISSION? WHAT? HOW?

>>8459235
>>8459571
Dammit anons I posted this before I went to bed after working on it and woke up late. I'll post it after work, thank you so much for your interest.

>>8459623
I didn't know ic had an anime thread, hmm. I've peeked into the board before and I can handle the harsh critique they'd give me well, but yeah when they just tell you to stop drawing anime it's not worth posting.

What do you guys think of thumbcramps art?

>>8460097
>>/ic/

but really.
>stiff
>failing anatomy
>muddy colors
>poor line control

>>8460097
>Chubby, black mermaid with piercings
Oh tumblr
I bet she has a dick and is attracted to spoons or something

>>8459623
I don't visit /ic/ but what's Loomis?

>>8460018
I'm going to be honest and say no. I think your line quality and style could use a bit more work. Also Hiyori's hair is longer.

>>8460097
her username is a good summerization of that illustration quality

>>8460097
Her art all seems very pandering and tumblr for my tastes. This mermaid only has 3 fingers and a thumb, it's offputting. I could crit this piece to death about the colors not matching up and her jarring fat pencil brush lines everywhere. It looks like a tight sketch if anything.

>>8460063
Yeah, it's called the alt art/stylization thread.

>>8460240
Andrew Loomis, the author of a bunch of halfway decent fundamental how to draw books. Basically just an /ic/ maymay. The idea of saying that it "needs more loomis" is that there's so much wrong and giving specific critique won't help- you just need to go back to the fundamentals.

>>8460257
I can't really stand /ic/ on the fact of how pretncious a lot of them are considering the quality of their art. They give ok critiques but I'd probably get a better one from my friends. I belong to an online studio group made up of my classmates from college and I know everyone in there actually knows what they're talking about.

I also don't really ever see anyone in ic talking about shit like composition and how things are placed on the page, it's usually all technique with them.

>>8460269
Yeah, they might not be the best, but they're far from the worst as far as online critique goes. I'd take /ic/'s word over asking Tumblr, dA, or AANI.

>>8460277
Oh definitely. Conceptart.org's forum gives some pretty good crits and advice. But tumblr has this weird split of hand holding and the good artists giving solid advice just to be flooded with a bunch of asks saying stuff like "Why aren't I as good as you!?!"

>>8460097
I hate her stuff. I hate how pandering she is, how she friggin tags her illustrations with "body positive!" "fat positive!" just for notes. Also pic related irks me, I'm sorry I'm a huge ass weaboo and I keep seeing "Fat Naruto character!!" posts on tumblr. No, the only fat characters that are ninjas would be the Akamichis because of clan-specific techniques. You are a fucking athlete for a living, you would not be fat and dumpy like that, you would die. /rant

sorry, it just irks me so much for some reason when I see the "these naruto characters would be fat! Like me!" posts, idk why they bother me so much.

>>8460284
Plus there is the lack of varicose veins, overhang and cottage cheese flesh present in her drawings.

>>8460305
Tumblr has this weird tendency to fetichize fat people. "Look how cute they are! My queen!" and it's like no. Cartoon fat people are cute, but realistically where is the overhanging gut, gross flab, etc. They all self project so hard onto these cutesy drawings that they most likely can't even comprehend that if they look at their own bodies it's not very attractive. The whole thing reminds me of when people talk about how "Cute asians are! All of them are tiny and adorable!" This weird fetichizing of being a POC, w/e ethnicity and trans. I mean, good on them that it makes them feel better about themselves but don't pretend you're something you're not.

How old is this girl even?

>>8460315
And of course the blatant hypocrisy of her tastes when applied to other genders unto which she cannot project.

>>8460321

>>8460315
22, it looks like.

>>8460321
I actually just realized this. So...tumblr is supposedly body friendly and shit. Like her Naruto self insert, they always draw cute rolly polly fat girls and scream at people who tell them to lose weight or get healthy. But I literally never see them talk about body acceptance for men. They all love their buff husbandos and beautiful anime boys (I'm getting sick of the cinnamon roll meme tbh), but none of them ever have fat or pudgy male characters (outside of Steven Universe), and if they do it's as fetishized as girls. "I love the pudge omg chubby so cute." Idk why I just realized this, there's no body positivity for men on that site. Better be a cute twink or a buff grisly dude, but regardless ur still ciss male scum.

>>8460395
This is just a huge, sweeping generalization. I definitely see a lot of body acceptance for men on my dash, especially from artists.

Then again, I follow bara artists too and try to keep the snowflakey SJWs off

>>8460284
what in the fuck is spoken word genjutsu

>>8442196
Alright I finally got my washi tape and I managed to get Kylin speaking again.
Washi tape is actually pretty nice quality! Other than the white one in the middle, they are all generally opaque. They sent me eleven rolls and a small magazine basically showcased all of their products (they are a tape company so stuff like electrical tape and the like). I would definitely recommend you guys to perhaps looks to get your own sample of you'd like a first hand look. The company name is Zhuhai Huayuan Electronics and they should come up with a Google search. I contacted through the alibaba messenger.

>>8458497
>Rambrant

>>8460354

Ugh, neck tits... Easiest way to tell if a girl is fat. She'll use myspace angles to hide her flab, but the lack of collar bone and the nasty tits pushed up to their neck to resemble something more perky gives it away. You ain't fooling me

>>8460556
oh, this is really sweet. is this a company that offers custom printing? and if yes, what's the MOQ?

>>8460573
Yes they are custom! And I was told earlier in our emails that the price per roll is .50, but I was not informed of the MOQ, so I just emailed them now. If the MOQ is a lot higher than what I need, I may come here to ask for people to join a group order if that's fine :0

>>8460597
thank you so much for this! I'd love to join a group order, but I am a eurofag so that might not be for me. good luck with that tho!

>>8460021
qq It was in a Japancrate box from the Japancrate booth and I forgot I put it in there on Saturday. Then on Sunday when I went to leave we were cleaning up the room and I tossed it. Halfway home I was like, "FUUUUUUCK!"

>>8460597
I'll gladly join a group order!

>>8452176
>>8456951
>Cosmic Pompadour Guy.
>He's a guy with a pompadour.
>In the cosmos.

Kylin from vograce sent me a /really/ useful picture about how the different types of acrylic charms look like! You guys should take a look too. She also sent me some templates but I'll have to get on the computer for that.

>>8458428
can anyone tell me the name of this artist/link to a blog or gallery?

>>8460063
Ok. After half a day of not seeing it I'm thinking her arm and neck are too long, but regardless her legs just look so...wrong. I redid them in a different pose than the original and it still looked wonky. Is it a problem even related to them? Shading or the angle or something? Idk but I'd love some help kind anons.

>>8461000
The first thing I notice right away is that her head seems gigantic. I know anime girls typically have proportionally big heads, but it just looks massive in comparison to her very narrow shoulders and torso.

>>8461000
same, I feel like both legs are fine, but that the head is huge.

>>8461000
Thirding the heads part, and maybe the eyes slightly lower on the face, but that is probably more my personal thing.

It looks gorgeous otherwise though!

Posting some pics from Anime Midwest, considering that everyone worth gold went to AX instead...

>>8461198
using a whiteboard for display, also the guy did a solid wall of just art when he split a table with his friend

>>8461200
I was attracted to the madoka kinoshita style art on the right, like selling originals is a thing too!

>>8461206

>>8461000
It's the head man.

>>8460018
I think you would benefit with more defined lines, either straight black or a very dark brown. The colored lines don't really mesh well with the strictly anime style. Also your lines are very wobbly-- find a way to either up the line stabilization or draw more onfidently.

>>8460597
I'd def join up on a group order! .50 per roll is hard to say no to.

>>8460395
Did you completely miss the pathetic "dad bod" fad that celebrated male fitness mediocrity?

>>8461424
I never saw that. Pretty much everything I have ever seen on tumblr was just whining about fat acceptance for ladies and "luving them curves"

>>8461013
>>8461124
>>8461148
>>8461251
Wow tbh I didn't realize the head had anything to do with it. I had even resized it before. I'm so glad you guys pointed it out for me! I resized it, shortened the arm, and modified the tights some and I think it looks much better now.

Does anyone know what happened to myrollingstar aka cartoongirl7?

>>8461552
miles better! Amazing work.

A very sad sad day for me and for everyone else that was willing to do group order....turns out MOQ for the washi tape is 3500 per design. Yes, per design. I'm gonna try asking to see if they can lower it(significantly), but I doubt it ;-;

>>8460684

That's very handy and now I know what to order next time! Thanks so much anon!

>>8461552
Hey, I hope you don't mind but I did a super quick draw over with my trackpad. Sry, wish I had my tablet on me argh. You still have a few anatomy issues. So her head could still do with being a bit smaller. I extended the forarms with my amazing photoshop skills, since the anatomy is a bit off. The arm on the right, I extended down a bit, as well as lengthened the forarm. The front-most knee could do with a little bit of definition (idk something as simple as a highlight to showcase the curve). Doing this will help with the foreshortening. The feet are a tad blunt. It would really add to this if you just went in and gave a little bit of shape to where the ankle curves into the foot. Think of how manga artists do that really well. Finally, I upped the saturation, added a low opacity multiply layer and color fixed it a bit towards purple (b/c Homura). I thought this would help with what I saw as muddy colors.

I have flux on right now so idk how this all looks on a screen w/o it. Do these few things and I honestly think this will be one of the most beautful prints I've seen in a while.

>>8461759
wait........$3,500 per design?

>>8461912
I meant 3500 rolls per design. But not much better since their approximation was .50/roll so it'd be $1750 without shipping....
That's not some kind of money I have lying around, especially just for one design.... :(

Dunno if I should wait for next thread or not, but anyway. I'm thinking of selling at a doll convention next year, and I am having a problem coming up with a good display. I've got doll clothing which needs a good way to organize it so it can be browsed, small props to display, and somehow work in a few dolls actually wearing the stuff. This past year most of the artists and vendors had a very basic set up with just baskets of goods on the table and I want to be a little more efficient than that. I like the idea of the frames/corkboard for smaller stuff like >>8441707 and >>8442210 but its the clothing (which can be pretty heavy, I do a lot of full fantasy gowns) and some of the larger props that are confusing me.

>>8462124
Can you get some cheap doll clothing display mannequins and do a display of those?

>>8459654
It probably is the largest AA in the US at the moment, the map specified that there were 594 tables.

AX will very likely release more tables later on depending on cancellations and such so this is really only the first round. That and Kentia Hall is bigger and they expect to add more tables than this year.

I'm at such a loss here
So I can't seem to find a washi tape supplier wig a lower MOQ per design, but I did find a tale supplier that seems like it has a low MOQ, but it's all in japanese, and most likely ships only in Japan so you'll need a service like Tenso to send it to you.
http://www.wave-inc.co.jp/products/tape.html
Seems nice, drawbacks being its for one thing, not washi tape. Also you can only have one color on the tape. You can however choose the color of the tape and the color of the ink. Maybe do lineart type stuff or super minimalistic stuff? This is the best my research has gotten me. If anyone else has a good washi tape supplier or knows of a group order happening soon please let me (us) know ;-;

>>8460242
>>8461254
Thanks for your imput! I redid the lineart using SAI, which has a line stabilizer. I don't think I ever want to go back to Photoshop for my lineart after trying SAI. Does this look better? Also lengthened her hair.

>>8461963
Holy shit ok that's a pretty absurd number to force people to buy. Shouldn't they do it by the hundreds/500 max?

>>8462558
Yeah! That looks better. Also, maybe shrink her just a tad to center her a bit more. You don't want the image going out of the canvas like it is on the right side of her head.

I've sent my clear charms to the taobao supplier and...They look like the design of the back was flipped over(I did it myself, for design purposes...)What should I do? Do you think they will fix it if I ask them? Like fix them without an extra cost? I requested a closer photo to my agent so I can see it better but so far, some of the characters are not symmetrical looking(They have beauty marks...etc) And there is also my handle(Which is not that important tbh but flipped text is weird)

>>8463095
I'm not the supplier so I wouldn't know for sure, but I don't think it would hurt to ask. You should mention that you had made a separate later for the back

>>8462346
There's a washi tape group order going around on twitter if people want the link (I'll have to dig but the user is trickywagon) the moq per design is 35 but the organizer is based in the UK so transit and shipping will be a bit steeper. Iirc the going cost is $2 a roll or something

>>8463025
so far it has been that kind of MOQ that saki and others had contacted. One supplier I contacted explained to me that with lower MOQ making the set up, the "stencil" for the roll and everything is barely worth it. Most suppliers even ask a 100$ + fee per design to make the printing template thing.

>>8462346
Are you just checking alibaba. There's a few Taobao suppliers with smaller MOQs. You may have to google translate something like "custom washi tape" or "custom paper tape"

>>8462346
>>8463244
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DsAJl5P0blvZYv_JYTSjGT8_JSAzvsprOgthprbPI1Y/viewform

does anyone know where i could print clear files/folders, preferably with MOQ around 10-100? the last link in the outsource sheet seems to be able to print them but idk how to use taobao (and their MOQ seems to be 1000?). i looked around on alibaba but all the suppliers i found had very high MOQ.

>>8462175
That would take up about as much room as just having the dolls themselves up. I've been trying to think up something like one of those old timey rotating clotheslines to hold packaged clothing though. The tricky thing is that almost all of them are one-off fashions, like I don't just have 7 green dresses in one size, I have a smattering of things in each size but all different fabrics and styles. So pretty much all of it has to be on the table.

>>8463025
These are mostly services for actual companies or bigger businesses.

>>8461896
Hey, thank you! You're totally right about her left arm. I had abandoned it thinking there was no issue but now I see it would be really short if it were straight laying against her side. I'll definitely fix it and add a shine to her knee.
When you say low opacity multiply layer, is it like a copy of the image or a solid color? I'm really old-fashioned and am not well-versed in digital art, sorry. I did have a purple color blending mode layer on already and should increase opacity like you did. I saw muddy colors too, but like I said I'm old-fashioned and didn't know how to easily adjust them with layers and filters and all that.

Went through another hunt and found one supplier that said "MOQ is 600, with mix patterns"
I'm not sure what that means but I'm hoping its 600 minimum rolls, with multiple designs....

Am I the only one who thinks JiMi Agency's price ranges are a rip off? For anyone who orders from them, is it worth it? Do you actually make a decent profit from screen wipers and holographic bookmarks/prints?

>>8464534
Don't worry anon, I paint with watercolors, and the only thing I do digital is color edits, manga edits, and putting things together. All of my friends are digital artists though so I learn tricks from them.

Uhm, ok first I upped your saturation a bit using the Levels. Then I hit command + B (i'm on a macbook) and it brings up the color balance. This allows you to essentially bring out whatever underlying color you want to and boost it (Think CMYK on one end and RGB on the other) It's usually set to midtone which is what you use most. You can always mess around to see what clicking the others do. I moved your tab left more towards Magenta because I thought it could use a boost in purple. Using color balance is the easiest way to help with muddy colors or to fake knowing how to do lighting lol.

Next I just copied the layer, and then changed the layer setting to multiply. I wanted to add more depth to your piece, and then lowered the opacity of that layer to about 25% or something.

I hope that all makes sense.

>>8464687
I think that they're a ripoff too, I've seen a lot of people move on toget their prisms/other merch from @getmeds (twitter)

Would it be ok if I take sticker paper to my local staples or something and print my stickers there? I'm having a hard time finding a good sticker printing company that does die cut at a reasonable price so I was thinking I could just print and cut myself. But then I'm not sure my printer can take printing many higher quality color pages....

>>8465083
most office places don't care if you bring your own papers. just check the type of printer the paper is compatible for; most companies like staples and office depot use laser printers.

As someone looking at artschools and interested in one day doing an artist alley table (once I learn digital, just started) can I ask what schools cgl might recommend or discourage?

>>8465145
Don't go to art school.

>>8465158
Did you go to art school? Or any similar alternatives?

>>8460597
I'd also be down for a group order!

>>8465145
"Doing artist alley" probably shouldn't be your primary criterion for choosing a school.... just find out which schools have good programs that you are interested in (animation? illustration? fashion design? etc). No school has a major in "artist alley"... and I don't think your major determines your success in artist alley, it's your skill as an artist (regardless of your focus) and as a businessperson that will have a greater effect. And neither of those things necessarily require going to an art school for the record.

>>8465145
This >>8465158
You're better off honing your talents yourself and go to school for something that you'll actually be able to make a living off of like a trade or just start working now. You can do art on the side and if you actually become a popular artist, then you quit your job and focus full time art once you know you can get a relatively stable amount of income from it.

What size badges do people generally favor more?

>>8463239
OK they send me photos. They really flipped over the charms, but what irks me most is that they never used the art for the back of the charms. It's like they just printed the art for the front for both sides...I´m going to ask if they can fix it,