/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Should have added: Prior thread in autosage >>8422226

Repostan

>>8423729
Stop reposting hearsay. Until there's actual proof of it there's no reason to spread this. Let's stick with the facts, and just wait until we hear from Misako or JLA.

>>8423749
+1

>>8423749
I really hope it differs from the posted convo.

Akira/Midori still OTP

>>8423749
But let's also not be surprised if this is an accurate version of things. She does come from the Land of Ignoring Subway Groping, so it's very possible she'll look the other way.

>>8423836
more like the Land of Having No Opinion On Anything. it's one of Japan's downsides tbh, what with the collectivism culture and all.

>>8423749
Ok cadney

>>8423852
I'm not Cadney. It's just ridiculous in believing in a screencap where there's no proof or mention of who's even talking. Literally anyone could have made that.

>>8423749
This is either hearsay or part of the lies John has told AM staff about the situation. JLA has started investigating, including contacting lolitas in the US to find out what is happening. Apparently Misako was told something completely different about what happened, and was really surprised by my friend's stories.

>>8423863
Agreed. I hope it's not true. We honestly don't know at this point so speculating is senseless. There's enough tangible proof to go by--we don't need to make shit up

>>8423888
>"JLA has started investigating, including contacting lolitas in the US to find out what is happening. Apparently Misako was told something completely different about what happened, and was really surprised by my friend's stories."
>popcorn.gif
shit's gonna go dowwwwwn

>>8423729
I'm thinking maybe the "translation" John gave her wasn't entirely correct. That would make more sense.

>>8423888
>Apparently Misako was told something completely different about what happened

do you know what, exactly?

>>8423942
probably John trying to cover up his acts

>>8423942

probably "it was just jokes! hehhe no biggy!"

>>8423810
ttly offtopic but I agree anon
One of my friends who can speak Japanese well met Midori at AM a few years ago and asked about Akira and she said Midori jokingly called her, her "boyfriend".
I'm really bitter right now because I really wanted to go to AM next year but I have to put my money where my mouth is and avoid this shitshow, maybe I'll try SanJapan.

#BoycottAnimeMatsuri #ArrestJohnLeigh

Is Deneice Leigh still a member of HLC? They seriously need to give her the boot if they ever expect that FB comm to return to any normalcy.

>>8424271
Yes, she's still a member of the community. I wonder for how long if she and John gets their KA positions taken from them.

>>8424271
People have done less to get kicked out of groups. This. Stop being supportive of this shit. There's enough evidence out now to at least know you don't need to deal with them anymore.

>>8424214
Arrest for what? Lifting up his friends jabot?

>>8424214
While I agree with boycotting AM, I don't think its very likely he'll get arrested for anything.

>>8423729
I guess we will see as things develop but if they booked Misako for future cons and charity events and she's under contract for those obligations, I won't be surprised if she keeps the status quo until they are over. Otherwise she and JLA could be sued for contract breach, and if she says anything negative, maybe libel too.

Perhaps Misako has loyalty to John because he donated cash money to the JLA...not just a Prada bag for her.

There has to be something else that we're just missing besides a contractual agreement to stay on these dbags' good sides.

>>8424214
the worst crimes he could get nailed for are tax evasion and MAYBE quid pro quo harassment, which I don't think actually involve arrests. But they could nail him with a legal case that'd make it real difficult for him to ever be in a business leader/owner role again, which would be great.

>>8424402
material is only libel if it is proved to be untrue

I've just realised though, this must be hilarious to some of the Japanese people involved - one of their number one stereotype of Americans is that they sue everyone, and threaten legal action. And look what we're doing.

>>8424564
well what would you suggested we should do?

>>8424568
I'm not saying it's the wrong thing, I say sue his ass off. I'm just saying it's funny how we do pretty much fit the stereotype.

>>8424564
Just want to mention Baby blacklisting people because they complained when their shoes arrived damaged. Or any of their other hairtrigger blacklisting I've heard about.

>>8424574
well irony is a beautiful thing

>>8424576

>>8424636
This was from a week ago, not 2 hours ago.

>>8424651
...how stupid are you tho

>>8424636
she lacks trigger discipline

Seeing the amount of anons stand up for victims of John's sexual harassment* warms my damaged, cynical heart. I was afraid a lot more people would have the incredibly foolish, naive attitude of "Well you didn't say no enough! I would have punched him in the face!" attitude because lel 4chinz.


* defined as unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical harassment of a sexual nature so yes John sexually harassed Buttcape and Nicole.

>>8424689
Fuck off

>>8424636
That creepy face. Stop smelling her hair.

>>8424733
Both of them have a creepy face there.

I just realised... maybe Misako this is not such a big deal because that kind of attitude towards women is common in Japan? Idk

>>8424781
My understanding is that sexual harassment is actually regarded as a fairly serious matter in Japan. It's already pretty socially unacceptable to speak about sex in general, add on that John is making inappropriate comments in what is essentially business setting, and I think Misako would more than understand why his behavior is problematic. She probably hasn't noticed just how gross his behavior is until it's brought to her attention now since he'd most likely been on his best behavior with a high-profile guest like her. Also, language barrier.

>>8424781
There is no way that this is not a big deal for her. JLA is her thing, and the source of the drama came from it accepting John. I doubt that she is going to just ignore all of these accounts even just for saving face and unless you have any real proof that she does not care, you have to just wait until the official reply.

>>8423715
We really need a summary for the next thread.

Information:
>Planet Zero
>Buttcapes accusations
>Chokes accusations
>All the accusations on facebook
>All the anon accusations on /cgl/ (minus the suicide bs)
>The HLC Comm and AM
>The Grand Lolita Tea Party
>L.A.C.E involvement
>Kawaii Ambassadors retiring
>John,Deneice & "friends" backpedaling
>JLA currently investigating
>Lawyer trips taking this shit to the next level
>Johns "apology"

Other stuff:
>A dropbox or imgur link with all the screencaps
>Link to the petition: https://www.change.org/p/japanese-lolita-association-global-lolita-community-revoke-the-kawaii-ambassador-titles-from-john-and-deneice-leigh#petition-letter
>Anime Matsuri Threads:
Part 0: https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/S8406336
Part 1: >>8418213
Part 2: >>8420830
Part 3: >>8422226
Part 4/5: >>8423715
>Semi related threads:
JLA speculation: >>8419494
Petition: >>8418560
German Thread/Pre-GLTP: https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/S8323065
The Grand Lolita Tea Party 1: https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/S8411721
The Grand Lolita Tea Party 2: >>8416049

Or we may just write a whole non-witty Encyclopedia Dramatica article.

>ppl itt having no fucking clue what Misako is really like

She won't do shit, she's just as bad as John. Steps down on others to get what she wants, sees western lolitas as fucking annoying little shits she has to endure to achieve goals and looks away when there's drama going on.
The only difference between her and John is that his was of excusing himself is "it was a joke!", whilst hers is playing the role of dumb and useless woman.

>>8424891
Dude, we've established you can't say stuff like this without some kind of supporting evidence. What's your experience with Misako?

I believe it's time I share something.

>It was few years ago when I attended AM. I was there with my friends and, back then, my boyfriend. I was cosplaying a sexy version of Sailor Moon, my friends were cosplaying other anime characters.
>I didn't think about entering a cosplay contest as I treat cosplay merely as a fun hobby. However, I met J and he told me I should enter his contest and that "if I had a sexy superpowers I could easily win it".
>I wasn't underage back then, but was enough stupid to laugh it off. "It's just a joke" I would tell myself. He asked me what were my plans and if I could meet him later so he would "show me something pleasant". I started getting nervous, at it was obvious he was trying to set me up. Thankfully my boyfriend came and asked if everything was alright.
>Then J asked if that was my boyfriend. I nodded, when he replied "I should meet a real man, not a pussy like my boyfriend" and that he would "show me what a real man feels like". We didn't want any problems so we just excused him and left.
>I have met J few times during the con, mostly he was chatting with some young girls. Creepy as it is, I'm happy it all ended safely for me.

>>8424786
>>8424891
I know nothing about the lolita scene except what little I know through friends and what I've seen posted, and from my viewpoint as an outsider she seems to be fairly full of herself and not the type to care about this whatsoever. Much like John, the niceties seem like a facade.

>>8424889
I'll throw together the caps I have real quick.

>>8424913
Not same person but it's a bit hard to provide proof of someone pretending to be stupid, especially if she doesn't speak or post in English.

>>8424942
Right, but conveying this information in a story, like "I was at x tea party when..." is somewhat more helpful than "Here's my opinion without any qualifying information, bye."

>>8424889
>Or we may just write a whole non-witty Encyclopedia Dramatica article.

Give me a few days to gather all this crap up and I can probably write up a decent article and get it set as AotN ;)

>>8424917
>>Then J asked if that was my boyfriend. I nodded, when he replied "I should meet a real man, not a pussy like my boyfriend" and that he would "show me what a real man feels like". We didn't want any problems so we just excused him and left.

I hate assholes who say shit like this to people while knowing that they already have SOs.

Even if he defends himself by claiming it was harmless "flirting", that shit is gross and unprofessional.

It also sets off all sorts of alarm bells, because it signals that the speaker has a blatant disregard for basic social rules. He not only insulted your boyfriend at the time, but insulted your judgement in deciding to be in a relationship in the first place. It still is unacceptable to say even if the relationship had looked like an unhappy one: at one point in time, two people chose to be together, and a third-party stranger does not have enough info to make an immediate informed judgement on it (not vocally, and certainly not at the very first meeting).

Fuck Hollywood movies, too, that use this behavior as a plot device for romantic storylines. it's unromantic, creepy, and is the laziest of lazy scriptwriting.

>>8424923
I'm just saying she'd probably understand why what he did was gross, not necessarily give a shit. She'd most likely have a, "shouganai, ne" type attitude about the situation.

>>8424952
Don't mean to derail but I've had several men say this shit to me and I'm engaged. They even say things like "Oh let me know if it doesn't work out with you and your fiancé!"
Fuck people who think it's okay to disregard social and personal boundaries, people like John included.
Again, lewd jokes between friends? Sure, okay. If that's how you joke that's how you joke. But "testing" these jokes on members of your staff or your business partners isn't okay. Many people don't really know how to express their discomfort, and the perpetrator will just assume it's okay.

>>8424917
>thingsthatneverhappened.jpg

>>8424964
In reality, she is completely useless to this cause as all that will be done on that front is kicking them out of the JLA. This doesn't matter to anyone except for lolitas and it's a false victory.

>>8424967
Gonna have to agree with this. Unless you're willing to put a name, if not face, to your accusation, you're effectively useless here. I'm not saying it didn't happen, but unless you're willing to back it up by putting yourself out there, you're contributing absolutely nothing and giving his supporters an excuse to say that all these claims are false.

>>8424982
Idk, it definitely hits home for lolitas, but I feel like cosplayers/other general con attendees should also care since it's someone who helps run a major anime convention who's being a creep.

>>8424964
Of course that she understands it is gross.
But she doesn't give a shit, really. It's all bussiness, and as long as she can escape the drama and still come on top she's happy.

She's always been anti-men when it comes to loltia fashion, so approving of John's involvement in lolita must be giving her some sort of great benefits in exchange.

>>8424992
Is she a feminazi or lesbian?

Do any of you guys know if there are any other shows besides the Lolita one in Anime Matsuri?

If that's so, I'm sure we can try to find the people who have been aiding during them, such as Stephanie and Choke during the Lolita one, and get more people with REAL stories about John.

>>8424994
Feminazi, sort of.
She thinks lolita is all about females being innocent and pure and that shit, so I think lesbian is a no.

>>8425000
But is that her real opinion or part of the facade she puts up?

>>8424998
I know there are at least four other individuals that told me they have put feelers out to communities that were present at Import Reactor, Planet Zero, Club AM and the Nerdlesque Show. I'll let you know if I hear anything, some of them are posting here in this thread too so they'll probably give you guys info before even I hear of it.

>>8424992
How can she be anti-men when the main company she models for is run by a man (BtSSB)

>>8424889
Nice

>>8425039
It's more that she has voiced disagreement with men wearing the fashion (apparently, I've only heard this from attendees, never seen it in writing or an official source).

>>8424568
Not go to his con.
This mob mentality is disgusting. You are all as gross as he is with your pitchforks. If you are unhappy with what he has done stop attending his events.

No, that does not mean showing up and borrowing your friends badge. No that does not mean only hanging out in the Hilton. That means not taking your greasy warm body within a 5 mile radius of his event so he can't benefit from your spending and presence.

I've seen so many people talking about how they've known how gross John was for years and how terrible AM has been for years...and guess where they were this year in April? Guess where they will be next year in February?

The only thing you have the power to do is to not financially support his events. He didn't fail to pay YOU. He didn't touch YOUR butt. Stop yelling Sue, none of you can do that.

>>8424913
The proof will be when JLA either does nothing or collude with John and Deneice to "recall" their title but still work with anime matsuri through "contractual obligations." We all know John is not organized enough to plan that far ahead or draft those types of contacts. It doesn't even seem like the vendors were under proper NDA (e.g. Choke).

>>8425048
Aannd that is exactly what I am going to do. Attended it last year (will be the first and last) but never again. I'm in Cali so there are many other options for me, like pmx. Don't pretend we are all just talk, no one here has said they will continue to support him except for his cult.

>>8425053
lmao you can't make a statement like that and then say the proof will reveal itself some time in the future. I don't understand why some people itt are hellbent to drag Misako through the mud - all I'm asking is that you help me understand.

>>8425045
Wasn't there an interview where she said that lolita wasn't for men? I remember this from the "Misako is a racist" phase.

>>8425065
I will be the one laughing my ass off when JLA continues to do biz with anime matsuri. If you have been around Misako and John, you will know she does whatever he tells her. While I take his word for shit, I do believe that part of his statement is true, that Misako will do what he tells her.

>>8425073
It isn't, though. It's women's clothing.

>>8425076
I haven't. That's the point. Why should I believe you if all you can tell me is "Well, if you knew, you'd know?" Your logic is shit.

>>8424891
To her defense, the vast majority of American lolitas ARE annoying little shots.

As someone involved with conventions and close to people who plan and organize them, I don't understand how you can get away with this shit. We've had to let go of high-up staffers for being creeps because we deal with so many minors. They might joke about gross shit, but there's a time and place for that and within the right company who you KNOW are OK with that and will joke along with you. Not just any random person, staffer or attendee. That shit will come back to bite you.

TBH I'm sick of all this Kawaii Ambassador stuff. What do they actually do? It seems like It's nothing but efame and pageantry. I see people doing more work to teach and inform people about the fashion who are not interested in all with receiving a special title and getting to be flown out to events with special photoshoots? I'd just like to know what JLA is actually doing? Or is it just some elite club?

>>8425087
That's the complaint of most of the sane lolitas.

Since there are caps of his creepy conversations, can someone answer me why none of these lolitas are filing sexual harassment charges against him?

>>8425087
How high-up, though? His wife is the chairman (chairwoman?) of AM and I'm brainfarting on what his exact position is but it sounds like the Leighs are pretty much the "owners" of AM. I'd guess there's a difference between kicking out and replacing a staffmember and overthrowing the head of the con.

>>8425094
Unless the person's a minor I don't think the police would actually care.

>>8425048
Basically this. I'm going to be so disappointed, I'm sure, by the number of lolitas who still attend in February after this mess, but I'll bet next to none of you actually do one of the few things that could put some hurt on John and AM and not attend.

>>8425101
Oh, definitely. There will still be a huge crowd and they'll use every excuse in the book.
>"I pre-ordered my badge before all of this went down!"
>"I'm just here to see [jnsert guest/brand]"
>"Well all my friends are going...."

>>8423715
Part 5? Did I miss a part 4? I didn't see anything in the catalog.

>>8425096
He's the events coordinator/manager.

>>8425118
Part 3 was actually thread #4.

>>8425116
I mean, even Buttcape still went this year and she's the one that outed this whole mess.

She used 2 of those excuses too.

>>8425133
Yep, exactly. I feel less distaste toward people who know what's happening but haven't really spoken out and who still want to go--at least they aren't vocally dissenting and then still giving AM their money. People who keep raging about how terrible the con is and still give it their money are hypocrites and I'm sick of them acting like they're taking the moral high ground lol.

>>8425048
>>8425101
>>8425116
>>8425133
Individual "activism" in the form of not going to AM is going to do little to deter him from engaging in this conduct when another 20,000+ people are still going to go. The sentiment is good, but wholly unrealistic.

Hitting him "where it hurts" is going to come in the form of outreach to voice actors, people like Volpin, vendors who need to uphold their reputation in their respective communities, the lolita community, the charitable community, the hotel, the convention center and donaters/sponsors.

>>8425138
LOL, it's cute you think the industry isn't aware of things. They don't need you to harass them about it, they're fine. If you fuck one person over at your show word spreads.

Please put down your torch Masao, you aren't helping anyone. You're being an annoying little shit.

>>8424952
He did this to one of my friends too.

>>8425148
John, be quiet. The adults are talking.

>>8425148
I think he's been pretty helpful, actually. Being helpful and being annoying aren't mutually exclusive.

>mfw Mr. Yan isn't the male center of drama in the lolita community anymore

can someone translate these moonrunes?

minori speaks: https://mobile.twitter.com/cute_minori/status/613646760179732481

>>8425205
LETS TELL YAN ABOUT IT.
I'm sure he'll blast in reverse whiteknighting and acting all "that's bad! sexual harassement serious!" in broken English being the biggest hypocrite ever.

>>8425206
Not sure if she's saying that John granted opportunities / helped Atelier Boz or the other way arround.
However, she just dismisses the topic by saying that whatever happens isn't her/ther problem since they don't work with him anymore.

I made the mistake of looking at replies were posted to his apology on fb, and found this gem:
"I think this is a serious case of some self-righteous women jumping on the victim train"

It was said by a woman. A mom.
Smh

Why doesn't 2chan have an equivalent of /cgl/?
I'm trying to crosspost this over there but I can't figure out what board it should go on.

>>8425225
pretty sure the japanese lolitas don't care about what happens to us gaijin piggus so why waste the energy?

>>8425221
No one wants to believe their friends and family members are sexual predators, it's easier for them to wrap their head around "oh they're just lying!!" than the idea they've been close to an abuser.
Abd unfortunately, of course, victim-blaming is still a knee jerk reaction for a lot of people, especially older generations.
The comments on J&D's pages are so crazy though, so many of them are mega religious and it's just too weird given the situation

>>8425206
Mm, it's something like, "For my work, I think I want to be a sincere person. This time, we have the opportunity to check the extent of (this thing?), though I am not sure. John. Whether this is dismissed or not, I don't think we can work together anymore. In a place unknown to me, many things were going on."

If anyone is fluent, though, I'm sure you can do a much better job than I can; it was hard to know at some points who exactly she was referring to.

>>8425228
But the hikki males that plague that website will do anything for cute westerners in frilly dresses.
Plus, we could do with some japanese translators.

>>8425229
Very good point.
It's really sad

>>8425230
Could you check the tweet she posted soon after as well? Here's a link https://twitter.com/cute_minori/status/613647539800162304

>>8425234
Last I checked there was a brolita board but I haven't been on 2ch in forever

>>8425230
https://twitter.com/cute_minori/status/613647539800162304
She also posted this about it. Can anyone translate?

>>8425230
Why exactly are you posting in these threads? You're not a lolita, you hate Texas and have never been to Matsuri.

>>8425245
Holy shit why are you so salty, damn. Next time I won't be as rude as to follow a topic I'm interested in.

>>8425238
>>8425244
I can look at these but I'll be afk so it might be a bit, sorry! Also again, I'm not fluent so I might make some mistakes

>>8425197
How has he been helpful? He hasn't said anything that's actually applicable or relevant. He showed up, claimed he was a lawyer, and started spewing a bunch of shitty advice.

>>8425247
Sure is Deneice in here.

>>8425247
He's been digging up actual evidence about the Leighs and is helping people who would need legal advice about this situation. Now kindly go fuck yourself, John.

>>8425206
I wanted to be a sincere person in regards to work. This current incident might be the chance to check just how much I have been. John-san. Whether or not you are dismissed, I don't think we can work together anymore. A lot has happened somewhere I don't know.

>>8425244
I've heard stories from various sources. I've come to a decision based off them. A lot of problems have intertwined, though no single side can be said to be completely at blame. It is an indescribable feeling.

>>8425245
They've been more helpful than your dumb ass, unless you want to help with translations too.

>>8425261
What this person said for the second one; this translation is way more eloquent than what I was trying to piece together haha. Thank you anon!

>>8425261

So Minori is out of AM for good? Wonder what the other brands and guests will do. And if Baby knew about this, because they didn't come back for this AM.

>>8425247
Actually he's been more helpful that you usually see in these types of threads. He's right on the money about how "boycotting FOREVER!!!" really does jack shit in the scheme of things since he'll keep getting funded and keep carrying on his events until the powers that be take notice and take action.

Basically, keep bringing the screenshots into the public eye on social media, contact those in charge until there's a statement on the matter, and keep momentum going until some kind of action is taken. Everyone's hot and bothered now, but it's easy to lose steam and let people sweep it under the rug.

>revealing your power level this hard

>>8425138
its so largely based on lolita though, it would make a huge difference if no lolitas went.

>>8425267
I hope Akira doesn't go back. I would be shocked if she did after how they treated her.

>>8425274
This is so embarrassing

>>8425267
From what I've been told, BtssB hates John's guts, in particular the SF store, and there is a VERY good reason for this which I am not going to discuss until I speak with them.

>>8425276
It really isn't, though. Also, a few lolitas not showing up and a thousand more that do isn't going to change things.

>>8425285
I was guessing so. Because Baby used to be the principal brand there. I do know, however, that they don't stand shit.

>>8425285
The current shop girls?
Because there's been a turnover in employees

>>8425289
For now I'll just say it's very similar to conduct he has exhibited at this past Matsuri involving failure to provide for shipping after the convention.

>>8425253
>>8425269
You mean all the shit that's been posted here over and over every year? This bull has been going on for years, it's posted in every AM thread. If you didn't already know all of this you weren't paying attention.

There isn't any action to be taken because no venue is going to drop a huge revenue stream because the internet said they don't like someone. The "dirt" this guy is posting is years old. There is absolutely 0 new information. Why would anyone that has had a stable business relationship with them now give two shits that they had a failed endeavor 4-5 years ago?

The only thing any of you are capable of is legitimately boycotting. If you call and harass these places they're going to get pissed off at you, not John.

>>8425290
I don't know who works there now or in the past, all I know is that their turnover rate rivals that of a loan shark secretary position. Do you have contact info for anyone who was around when they dropped Matsuri, or know if any of them are still involved at all with the store? I'm supposed to be speaking with one of them at some point online.

>>8425138
And that's why once we get a look at this NDA I Have nukes I can drop about this year

>>8425295
That's not "harassment". You're delusional if you think boycotting the convention is going to do anything. In fact, that's precisely what they would want to happen. People who have beef with John not showing up to the convention to cause waves and so that there are no parties present who would be interested in gathering more evidence of his misconduct.

#loominati

MIDORI FUKASAWA ISSUES A STATEMENT

仕事に対して誠実な人でありたいと思いました。今回の事でどれ程のことをしたのかを確認するための機会かもしれないです。ジョンさん。解任かどうかどちらにせよ、もうお仕事は一緒に出来ないと思います。知らない所でいろんな事が起こっていた。
いろんな方面からお話聞きました。その上での判断です。いろんな問題が絡み合い、片方が完全に悪いというのは、存在しませんが。なんとも言えない気持ちです。

I wanted to be a sincere person in regards to work. This current incident might be the chance to check just how much I have been. John-san. Whether or not you are dismissed, I don't think we can work together anymore. A lot has happened somewhere I don't know.

I've heard stories from various sources. I've come to a decision based off them. A lot of problems have intertwined, though no single side can be said to be completely at blame. It is an indescribable feeling.

>>8425314
You got Hanzo'd by >>8425261

>>8425306
20 people incessantly calling a business to tell them they don't like a guy for REASONS.

What do you call that?

>>8425314
wasn't it MINORI who said that?

>>8425321
Certainly not harassment. Events management and complaint lines exist for this reason. As far as I know, no one is calling anyone as of yet and no contact information has been posted, so slow your roll.

Pretty sure sexual harassment on an absolutely massive scale and tax forfeiture are pretty legitimate "REASONS" too.

>>8425295
You act as if vendors (legit...jla is not a real org) and partners don't care about being affiliated with a pervert.

>>8425289
The drama I heard was that Baby Japan was going to AM and Baby SF wanted to help but AM said no.
Ever since that happened Baby SF told Baby Japan that AM is horrible and stealing their money. I guess it was true and that's why they didn't come back.

>>8425238
screenshot in case she deletes it later...

>>8425328
You are telling people to contact businesses and hit him "where it hurts"

>Hitting him "where it hurts" is going to come in the form of outreach to voice actors, people like Volpin, vendors who need to uphold their reputation in their respective communities, the lolita community, the charitable community, the hotel, the convention center and donaters/sponsors.

People were posting phone numbers in the last thread BTW
>>8423290

Screen caps of some gross comments on facebook don't make a sexual harassment
case, they won't give a fuck. They'd only be marginally interested if someone actually managed to charge him with anything, but that would take actual evidence. There's also 0 evidence of Tax fraud. People have been trying to prove that for years too.

>>8425314
>>8425322
Yes that's Minori get your shit straight.

>>8425329
You act as if they do
See Dragoncon

>>8425343
i just saw this actually. A lot of vendors do care, especially about a case that's so public like this.

>>8425342
She fixed it also on her personal account it appears that she's working with the houston press and they're going to nail john on mainstream media now *popcorn*

>>8425350
Oop, posted backwards.

>>8425352
WHAT

>>8425352
Minori is going to Houston press what?

>>8425362
No, GH was contacted by Houston Press

>>8425363
she's coming way to strong about this xD

>>8425341
>Minori just said she won't work with him
>Lockshop obviously as well
>Pop princes, Lolita collective
I'm expecting this list to grow

>>8425370
at least somebody coming ^_^ ^_- -_-

>>8425314

>MINORI
but thanks for an easily cap-able reply.

There are a few things missing from our discussions here that would help verify the background details.

Picture of the designers with VS bags in a limo?
Reika lost in the airport? (searching his twitter now "reika2011")

My major concern with this issue is the designers/guests identifying the AM leadership as the problem with doing business with USA events and -not- just all USA based experiences.

Unfortunately this is not the only event I have witnessed where guests have complained about not being brought food or not being given access to paid/professional translators. Hopefully this issue doesnt deter guests from agree to appearances in the future!

Not replying to John and his minions anymore. We know you're watching and posting in this thread, it doesn't matter and the list is growing. >>8425374

>>8425380
its funny how they think we don't know they lurk here

Also, All we need to do is tell Misako (and Japan in general) that John smokes pot and he will be blacklisted for life.

>>8425374
And I'm forgetting the people who have not publicly said it but have stopped working with him:
>Baby Stars
>unsure of this one but GLW?

>>8425394
GLW definitely have stopped working with him.

>>8425394
>>8425397
This I'm confused about because John supposedly says he's extremely tight with GLW's owner.

>>8425394
GLW is still working with them. They were there this year selling wigs. I am sure they will announce them as their new wig sponsor after Lockshop dropped them.

>>8425394
>>8425397
They still had a booth at the last AM.

>>8424698
But she does

>>8425378
Only found info on JohnxMisako bathing suit shopping but not VS

https://twitter.com/amjohnleigh/status/542753208427216896

>>8425402
>>8425405
>>8425406
Shit, then don't mind me. I figured that after john had used lockshop this year, and attempted to threaten Choke under the guise of GLW, they had stopped working with him. My bad. Though that really surprises me.

The owner of GLW and his wife were at the last AM tea party.

>>8425378

From what I see, Reika often posts images of his itinerary at the airport. He doesn't seem to be asking for info so that part of this story might be a misunderstanding. Though I'm basing this solely off of google translate so...
https://twitter.com/reika2011/status/610928007155310592

WTF!
http://i.imgur.com/BtvXRzJ.png

>>8425432
Reika is a girl :(

>>8425370
Obviously. I never met attention whore of this degree before it's actually hilarious and sad at the same time. Least she is directing it somewhere but damn the whole LACE! LACE! LACE! Thing is annoying.

>>8425439
Old news anon. Although Daniela liking it is both funny and also incredibly sad.

>>8425439
Backpedal faster.

In other words, don't be an asshat. Think about your actions and how they are going to reflect upon you, especially if you are in a position of influence. Don't go opening your mouth saying and doing whatever without worry about any repercussions. The world don't work that way. Too bad so many people had to get shat on before he dun fucked up.

Zero sympathy.

>>8425082
>The vast majority of lolitas are little shits

There, fixed it for ya

>>8425352
>>8425363
I wonder if this applies to her speaking to the press.

>>8425468
Or maybe said KA are fed up that someone is talking for them and even releasing info to press.

>>8425454
*sigh* with Daniela's and Cadney's response, the prospect of JLA dropping the jerk and his wife are seemingly low. Or as other anon has suggested, if they do drop them, it will just be a front and they will continue to work with him anyway.

>>8425472
Hopefully Daniela is kicked out? I think all the KA business might be dropped entirely.

>>8425472
I don't know, the fact that three KA have resigned completely still speaks volumes, I doubt the JLA have taken that too lightly. I hope, at least.

>>8425477
Who dropped out? Been wanting to know.

>>8425468
Jesus fuck she tried going to the press? And speaking for the JLA? KATE, STOP. Not only does she look bitter as hell for her original posts, this just makes her look way too invested--and not even because of LACE. It really just looks like she wants attention.

>>8425477
It's not 3, only 1. The Thailand ambassador. The Taiwan one stepped down because she was moving to a different place, unrelated to this. And we have no idea who the supposed third one is. Lol

>>8425485
Some stepped down after Matsuri (but before all of this noise). Arthael confirmed it.

>>8425491
But who? I mean Mila isn't saying a word. Pom wrote the other day on JLA, the same for the other Taiwan ambassador. And Cadney's statement made it look like she was still in.

Daniella and Ann are obviously there so ... we don't even know who told Kate all that stuff

>>8425501
Mila just wrote on her fb that something is happening!

>>8425501
Oh, Mila's talking. She's doing it in memes, but she's talking.
Apparently there's going to be some kind of announcement tomorrow and we should be excited about it.

>>8425501
It's Cadney I don't understand why you wouldn't think it's her. She is the one she is closest to.

>>8425508
Oh really? I want to know! KA are being so cryptic about everything.

>>8425517
Well no shit, it's a big decision that's having a huge impact on their reputation, of course they're going to be tight-lipped until the official consensus is reached.

>>8425491
That would be Kitsune th Taiwan ambassador, but unrelated to AM. Only 2 KA have resigned.

>>8425482
Arthael, Thailand Ambassador

>>8425520
GH said three. As much as I don't want particularly like going by her info, she does have KA ties. Maybe one just hasn't made an official announcement hey.

>>8425517
Cos they're cowards who value their fame and connections more than what's right. So disappointing

>>8425515
I thought it was Cadney at first but then her post made it look as she still was in.

>>8425528
Probably, I mean all the KA have been a little bit secretive about this whole mess...

>>8425531
>cos they would rather take time to collect their thoughts and not let emotions be the sole deciding factor in organizational decisions
ftfy

https://twitter.com/aokimisako

>>8425432
All of it was deleted the afternoon after, or right before her flight, but I was following her twitter when it happened, and cgl when it was translated. She got help from someone via direct messaging.

Has this been posted yet?

>>8425550
Like 3 times dude, read the fucking thread.

>>8425546
I wonder what Misako's recent tweets are about.

>>8425553
Sorry dude have a fuckin life outside of AM

>>8425540
Hi Cadney. Excuses much?

>>8425553
They're basically about how your happiness in lolita should be #1, that it's most important to enjoy the fashion (I'm paraphrasing hard, but you get the idea).
She also posted a bit about crying, but without context.

>>8425557
It's not even halfway up the thread, you're just lazy.

>>8425564
well if she really didn't know about anything (maybe for the language barrier), she must be pretty bewildered by everything. She's just seen the "pretty" side of things after all.

>>8425559
You're trying so hard to call out Cadney in these threads and it's hilarious, considering I don't think you've been correct a single time

Misako's last tweet

>>8425532
No, I meant to answer who is giving GH all the info. I feel like it's one of the lesser known KA like Nadine or something.

>>8425559
nothing wrong with being cautious.

my respect for arthael has grown quite a bit for the way she handled that shit (not that it needed to with how beautiful some of her coords are), but from what i understand the girl is absolutely loaded and she's far enough from the US that nothing john might cook up could possibly trouble her anyway.

i understand why it would be harder for people closer to his influence or with a business that revolves around cons and the lolita community (like choke has) to make a stand.

>>8425590
Oh that, yeah that's obviously Cadney... but guess even she isn't amused that GH is telling the world all she shared with her.

>>8425394
H. Naoto
Atelier Pierrot

>>8425285
>>8425289
Still waiting for people to notice how much merchandise goes "missing" or isn't paid for. And how he was planning to open a lolita shop next. I wonder what he was going to stock it with, hmmmmm?

>>8425622
If the brands talk that's really a good way to put a stop to this and kick John out.

>>8425622
>>8425394

It ever cross you guys that maybe AM just didn't invite these brands back because they didn't want them? Baby/Alice had been attending in some capacity for 3-4 years. Usually cons like to cycle guests out so the attendees don't get bored or feel like the con is stale. Unless there has been a public statement I don't think you should just assume the brand chose to terminate the relationship.

You guys with your KA theories are forgetting about Nadine. She was basically snubbed at AM and would have very good reason to quit.

>>8425633
BtssB terminated their relationship with AM.

>>8425633
I don't believe John is the guy to do that. He seems more the type to want literally as many guests as he can get. More big names, more attention.

>>8425635
When it comes to Lolita, it doesn't matter how many time the brand goes. Everybdy will be killing to be recognise by their precious burando

>>8425635
What happened with her?

>>8425633
Buttcape said on Facebook that there was a falling out with Naoto, and I've heard hints from a credible source that there were issues with both Baby and Atelier Pierrot. It's not a public statement but I don't have to work hard to read between the lines.

>>8425468
This likely means that the info she gave saying she got it from a KA was not something she got permission for, and that post may not be true since she was getting it second hand. Which makes me wonder how much she knows. GH is the one saying 3 KA quit, but it only sounds like 1 did because of AM drama, and there is no 3rd girl.

>>8425635
She chose Nightfall over the fashion show, in hindsight the better choice. But unlikely she would quit, girls who do not have a lot of e-fame behind them are less likely to give up a chance at it.

Just spoke with BTSSB. They know everything that is going on right now but are unable to (see: refusing to) make a statement at this time.

My read on this is that they told their employees to keep a lid on everything that happened, so I won't be divulging what I know in case they decide to issue an official statement.

That said, >>8425622 is pretty much on the mark.

>>8425659
I'm not sure if this is a good thing...?

>>8425384
but does he actually smoke pot??
(wouldn't surprise me if he did)

>>8425683
indeed... less if the spoke person if not any of the implicated.

>>8425683
The question is who went to the press; one of the aggrieved parties or John himself to play the victim?

>>8425699
None. apparently GH xD

>>8425705
>xD

Get out.

>>8425659

Someone trying to grab a couple minutes of fame? This is actually a bad thing in any case.

>>8425705
She really needs to just chill. I understand that the fashion show was awful but that is far from the most serious issue here. Let the people who were harassed or not paid lead the charge. Support them, help them be heard, don't talk over them.

>>8425647
>>8425664
Oh someone said something. Ok then. 100% believe it, no need to prove anything on this anonymous message board.

>>8425710
This. Kate should not be the one talking to press. I fear she'll focus on herself, the fashion show, and LACE, as opposed letting the most affected most in the know speak.

>>8425589
I feel so sorry for her, damn.
This must really hurt for her to say something like that.
Judging from this, I doubt she knew much of what was really going on at all.
Though I'm sure it also relates to the KAs that stepped down/are speaking out, she probably feels terrible about all of this, especially if she didn't know.

>>8425735
Also nothing can be taken seriously if the most affected don't talk by themselves

>>8425735
And I realize that she didn't say she'd be the one speaking to them, but like anon said, she's really "taking charge" when she doesn't exactly have the right to. Yeah, the fashion show sucked, but she is not a big player in this and she needs to accept that. She's not a KA, she's not a ripped off vendor, she's just e-famous.

>>8425705
>>8425708
>>8425710
>>8425738
I'll see if I can intervene.

>>8425738
I really think she didn't know. with the language barrier and all.

>>8425735
Agreed, those who initially came forward should be talking to the press.

>>8425713
Sure is summer in here.

>>8425699
I doubt it was John himself, wouldn't that just add more fuel to the fire that he wants to avoid?

>>8425708
She kinda irks me.
I don't know if it's good to be on mainstream media.
Desu desu popular desu

>>8425659
This is so dumb. Don't worry, normalfags don't give a shit about drama in some niche fashion they've never heard of. Let's just hope it's not a slow news day just in case.

>>8425809
They don't really, but in a best case scenario (for us) this might pique the interest of, I dunno , tax people. Might also get the interest of parents who send their kids to am, which could mean lower attendance.

I doubt the effect will be huge, but there might be some negative side effects from all this

>>8425119
So... Who's the actual head/owner of the con?

>>8425809
>>8425817
Problem is, she'll probably make it all about herself. From what I have seen her post, she is not a rational person so asking her to stop and allow the actual victims to come together and formulate a way to go public with this information is not an option.

>>8425820
I'm fairly certain it's all under Deneice's name

>>8424564
It's not just the Japanese. This has got way out of hand and I am just laughing at it, am starting to feel bad for John at this point.
You are all batshit insane.
Nothing will happen at all. Those girls consented to their "harassment" via the pms that John shared, which makes their other stories less credible because they are perfectly willing to take things out of context to make him look bad. Silence is not compliance, but those girls were not silent and instead (in each individual case) positively affirmed Johns retarded behaviour. It's no wonder it escalated.

It's like mattress girl all over again. Send your boyfriend a text asking him to "fuck me in the butt" and then call rape 8 months after he does because from talking to your friends you determined that he is "creepy".

>>8425801
It might be good if the focus is on the financial issues, poor business practices, and general harassment and less on the concept of lolita and the KAs themselves? /shrug

>>8425659
Buttcape just posted she never consented to being covered in a newspaper, nor was she contacted by the media.

>>8425749
STOP THE PRESSES!
THE INTERNET LAWYER SAYS SO!!

>>8425832
hi John or one of his supporters
>also nice victim blaming there

>>8425832
>Those girls consented to their "harassment" via the pms that John shared
>consented to their 'harassment'

uhuh. So are you John, his wife, or one of his delusional friends?

>>8425841
Go away. You're looking like a moron.

>>8425842
I am not one of his supporters. He is a fucking creep. But for not saying that he was being inappropriate and for laughing along with the things he did as jokes, it is only the natural consequence of their actions that he would continue.

>>8425761
>implying this whole thread isn't full of summer fags

>>8425842
Don't feed the trolls, ignore them. The cult of John is here to feed him info and bait us into stopping.

People who sympathize with perverts are part of the problem.

>>8425851
>>8425843
I'm not a troll, and I hate John.
But don't let hatred cloud your judgement. This will get nowhere if you decide to sue.

>>8425748
This. GH is just talking over them and it's disgusting.
I find it rude that she not only didn't ask Cadney about posting her KA news, which she deleted, but did not bother contacting Buttcape to put this in press.
All of this to be the center of attention and not giving anyone else credit. It is so disgusting. I feel like she is the female John now.

>>8425834
It's possible
So the person needs to be chosen very wisely

>>8425832
I hate to say it, but I agree with this.
It's been bugging me since the allegations came up in RC:U but I didn't know how to phrase it.
It cannot be harassment if it is consensual.

>>8425857
Wait, Buttcape wasn't contacted? Holy shit.

>>8425834
I think the best thing to talk to the press about is the fake charity if there's solid proof on that.
Mainstream media doesn't really handle outright rape very well, much less the kind of harassment that went on here. The only person that might hold up to public scrutiny is the girl who wouldn't make the porn video for him.

>>8425867
Buttcape just posted in fb that she wants no part of it and didn't know.
GH is being an aggressive attention whore.

>>8425846
>laughing along
Look at buttcape's example...closely
Reread it if you must
How is anything of what she said "laughing along"?
She literally avoided the question and changed the topic
he is making jokes while in a position of power

>>8425853
No one is going to sue at this time. Stop fucking throwing around the word.

>>8425857
This is being dealt with.

>>8425884
Who posted this?

Buttcape just posted that the article will make no mention of her, only the cosplayer's story.

>>8425886
based masao getting shit done

>>8424584
I wonder if those things on her neck are there to cover hickey from John...?

>>8425640
Can confirm. He boasted about how many brands would be at AM 2016. Although who knows how many will be going anymore.

>>8425888
renée marie

>>8425748
I feel like I'm one of the only people who was in the show who wasn't too bothered by how disorganized it was. Was it frustrating? Absolutely. Was it ridiculous? You bet. Did I feel the need to make a huge post bawwwing about it? NO, because it wasn't that bad. We got to take pictures with the guests and mingle with the designers. Yeah, not being properly fed sucked (we did get grilled cheese sandwiches eventually, though) but I personally had a good time in the show. I'm disgusted that she's trying to make this all about her and her experiences when there were people who have actually been harassed. That's way more serious and takes precedence over you not having the best time in the fashion show FFS...

>>8425710
Agreed. All people will see is a he-said-she-said article aside from a tale of a piss poor fashion show experience. They won't take it seriously coming from her, in fact people will probably just see it as a gossip column.

>>8425832
finally, someone who isn't fucking nuts. It's like everyone here drank some kind of rage koolaid and can't look at anything objectively. Every single girl that has posted "proof" continued their working relationship with him for months, even years after their "harassment" and every single one of them said in the beginning that those jokes personally didn't bother them at the time.

>>8425828
This may be a stupid thought, but if Deneice is technically the con head and her husband is fucking everything up, what do you think the chances of her firing him as event coordinator would be? No divorce, still have everything funded by herself and her husband, but have someone else in place of John handling everything?

Anyone else beginning to draw similarities between Johns deperate need to control things and Masao's? I think we have two creepy dudes to watch out for. Also, what kind of a lawyer is posting on 4chan on a Wednesday afternoon?

>>8425933
Nope, just you.

>>8425924
I actually would be ok with Deneice running AM with a professional event coordinator. I feel most of the things were fucked up by John.

>>8425898
Here, have some attention sad person

>>8424384
First of all, she's not his friend. She specifically states that she's not his friend or close to him or anything. Second of all, he lifted her jabot and then made comments about her breasts which is sexual harassment.
He can't be arrested, but he can get in trouble for it.

>>8425933
>This is being dealt with

that doesn't sound disturbingly like something a mafia boss would say at all!

>>8425922
Please back up your statements with quotes. At no point did buttcape say she was comfortable.

You do know that many assault victims are in friendship or family situations? They can't always stop contact

>>8425922
I FUCKING KNOW RIGHT.
The only people who have decided it is harassment and are pushing legal action are those "feminists" who were not involved in the situation in the first place and (from what I have seen) are trying to take over so they can gain traction for their movement.
John is crass, John is inappropriate, but if nobody sat him down and said "look, this isn't ok" then nothing will come of it because all of the positive responses and buttcape posting kawaii asciis in response to his inappropriate comments simply prove that they consented to the harassment. People were treating it as a joke. If they didn't find it funny, they should have told him it was inappropriate and asked him to stop, not "oh im going to run away from that question :3".

I know a guy who was like John. I told him it wasn't ok when he pushed a bit too far (came up and grabbed my ass), and he apologised and kept the creepy jokes and shit for other friends. It's not hard to deal with those situations, but you need to take them seriously instead of laughing it off.

>>8425944
I found that comment funny, actually...

>>8425947
>Not his friend
>showing up at his house after dark

I would never drive over to a co-worker or bosses house in the middle of the night for business related matters. There absolutely is a level of comfort their for someone to decide to do that.

>>8425953
Your opinion
Not mine bro

>>8425884
Can confirm. Blotted out name but it's here >>8425904.
I don't really even know who this girl is? Anyone have deets?

>>8425955
But he was essentially her boss.

>>8425933
The kind that's able to post from his phone on his free time while wrapping the work day up? Masao's not really a control freak, but it really hits home when it's within our own local scene and involving friends, so he'd like to help out.

>>8425952
>>8425955
^this
and also a person does not have to explicitly say "I am comfortable" to give consent. Compliance (while in a sane state of mind) and positive affirmations do the same.

>>8425953
>nobody sat him down and said "look, this isn't ok"
John is not five years old

>>8425933
>Also, what kind of a lawyer is posting on 4chan on a Wednesday afternoon?

One who doesn't have many clients and is fresh outta law school.

>>8425969
Doesn't matter. If nobody told him to stop, there would be no reason.

Even if you told him no like he said to do ...there is this comment..

>>8425933
Vendetta chan, pls go

>>8425972
I didn't know a handful of years was "fresh outta law school."

The things you learn every day!

>>8425964
LOL he's been posting in this thread all fucking day. That's a hell of a lot of down time.

>>8425985
Don't respond to the troll. You and Masao are awesome.

>>8425939
Okay, good to know its not a total shit idea. I wonder how she would react if someone pitched it to her.

>>8425985
>handful
So...five? He's not an experienced lawyer or else he wouldn't be playing cop detective on an anonymous image website doing shit pro-bono for e-pats.
If you want to suck his cock then by all means, but let's be real.

>>8425994
Stop derailing the thread.

>>8425933
One who didn't have to go to court because it's a Wednesday and every county I personally service has court dates of Monday, Tuesday and Friday, is simultaneously juggling writing stipulations, consent judgments and continuance motions, and really cares about his friends and other people in the community being sexually harassed and stolen from.

Your personal attacks are as despicable as John is, so kindly go fuck yourself.

>>8425959
All I know about her is that she's a Carolina Kei mod. Sometimes I see her posting in Rufflechat but that's all I know, really. She seems to keep to herself.

>>8425974
He should have common sense not to do it in the first place.

>>8426001
>implying
Stop being butthurt because someone negged your hubbo and there wouldn't be an issue. Also, put your trip back on.

>>8425983
He says "Make it perfectly clear that you are uncomfortable with my conversation. I would respect you enough to stop joking."

He is not saying that he will ignore someones wishes, simply that if you do not like his personality then you should not try to make friends with him. A perfectly reasonable statement.

Stop taking shit out of context. We must look at this objectively. John has done plenty of shit, no need to bring excess lies into it as this discredits your whole cause.
If you don't watch it this is going to go the same way as Occupy.

>>8425994
>implying being with him doesn't mean I get to

pls summer, that's a privilege


>>8425991
So I can't tell him about things on here he should reply to while I'm in class and he's at work? Please show me your 4chan police badge.
Now can we go back to the topic at hand?

>>8425959
She wasn't staff, though. She's not even from the Texas area.

>>8426012
I keked

>>8425967
They were hardly positive affirmations.

You sound like the people that say "oh, they don't have to say yes- they were totally into it"

>>8426012
>Please show me your 4chan police badge.
Show us yours first.
>WEH MUH TOPIC
Thread is autosage dipshit, make a new one and don't shit up the next one because you're insecure about being a greasy lurker 24/7.

>>8426028
You don't have to say yes though. Actions speak louder than words.
Like seriously does your bf ask you if he is allowed to have sex with you each time? Or does it just happen?

>>8425801
>>8425708

What really bothers me is what is the media going to say about some girls "dressing up like little girls" being sexual harrased by an old man. It will give the fashion a terrible reputation

>>8426030
bro can I have some of your salt for my fries?

>>8426030
>Show us yours first
Nice comeback, buddy.

>insecure about being a greasy lurker
Okay, if you say so from the past few threads I've been posting in.

I don't feel like going through the process of starting a new thread and getting a picture to put on it, autosaging or not because I'm on my phone with the limited photo reaction library I have.

>>8426042
I'm concerned about this too, we need to make sure there isn't some hack journalist taking this over. I'm not into lolita in the slightest but I understand the concerns.

>>8426003
>your personal attacks are despicable
>literally building a nerd army to destroy a mans life and family

Sure thing bro.

>>8425959
She's the main admin of a comm that covers both NC and SC and was a model at AM two years ago, and then apparently was on staff last year. That's all I know. I think she may be friends with Kate, but she's not very fame-hungry at all and avoids any and all drama, which makes it odd to me that she's speaking out about this. Either she had a truly awful experience or has a strong opinion about this.

>>8425838
gfdi kate, I blame you

new thread, >>8426057

>>8426055
She wasn't in the AM 2013 show and she wasn't part of the J-Fashion staff this year. Was she in a different department?

>>8425959
Where did she even post this? I have her added and don't see anything.

>>8425352
When it rains it pours, eh?

>>8426079
My bad, she wasn't a model at AM. I was thinking of AWA. I can't verify if she was on staff in the j-fashion department or in a different department either, unfortunately.

>>8425905
John literally drove one of the AP designers to tears, did you seriously not see Maki crying with Asuka trying to soothe her? There were those at the fashion show that had it way worse than you, so please stop trying to take attention away from that. Horrible event-planning and the awful treatment of guests are both still valid complaints against the Leighs.

>>8425690
Still kinda bummed out about that, I wonder if Novala is too

>>8425878
Well duh, why else did she start LACE?
>To ride that sweet tumblr victim dick

>>8425993
>>8425939
>>8425924

Why are you floating this idea when we know nothing about Deneice, her event planning skills, or her involvement in any of this? It could range from her being totally blind sided to his infidelity and fraud.... to the possibility of her being completely involved in possible money laundering etc etc etc.

We have no idea. So no thats not a "good idea."

>>8426217
Her name is on everything. She is the front man for all of the organizations/ money aspects of it all.

>>8426232
You (or the original replier) is assuming she is a good person and that she is being used as the fall guy for his actions. I'm saying that we don't know how involved in all of this she is so its not a good idea to assume she will take over and fix everything.

>>8425933
hi John
you're doing a bad job of trying to act anonymous
stop trying to throw Masao under the bus when he's actually getting shit done

>>8426054
>acting like this man and his wife have done nothing to warrant such action taken against them
>topkek

>>8425589
>何だか、涙が出てきてとまらない、、、
Bing's being weird.
It's "Somehow, I can't stop the tears from coming out"

>>8425432

I've told Reika about it, and sent the link to the petition to her when news broke. It wasn't translated then, so I tried to explain to her what happened to the best of my ability. She was concerned that this happened, but said that John didn't harass the cosplay guests.
She'll still be attending John's Hawaii event, but I'm not surprised since the drama doesn't affect her.

>>8426407
I think it was a continuation of the previous few tweets she made. Going off of memory, there were around 4 of them. She started off by saying that lolita is supposed to be fun and make you smile. Then there was a tweet that was basically "Except..." and then finally the one posted, "I can't stop crying..."

>>8424982
you, of all fucking retards

>>8426407
>"Somehow, I can't stop the tears from coming out"

omg bitch is so fake

>>8426048
post a pic of your degree and stop being a pussy

also your a shitty lawyer.
Lawyers know the policy is to sit down and shut up and make sure their client makes no types of statements whatsoever until the court date.
this bait and trolling is killing me guys. stop being so gullible.