/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

http://buttcape.blogspot.ca/2015/06/onlyatam-behind-scenes-tale-of-buttcape.html?m=1

Get Ann out too

Signed.

>>8418560
FINALLY.

Time to put these bitches down!

Signed too.

Signed. I really hope AM gets taken down after this. Who knows what else happened behind the scenes with other japanese guests and even American guests.

I hope people from outside the lolita community come out as well.

>>8418568
Ann is ok. She seems to genuinely want to help the lolita community. But fuck John and Deniece.

Already discussing this here >>8418213

>>8418560
This should include anything with the regular cosplay community too.

>never liked the KA idea to begin with and idc how it turns out either way
I just love drama.

Also Daniela (The Mexico KA ambassador) has been seen working closely with them and hasn't spoken out as well. She seems to be behind them 100%

I have never signed something so quickly

>1000+ signatures in less than 12 hours/a day
holy fucking shit

ITT: jelly butthurt bitches believing anything they read on the internet

>>8419544
ITP: Whiteknight who's fucking John. Hi Kate.

>>8419544
Who the fuck is Kate? I don't even know who this John is, I'm an european anon who's unaware of all this and just keking at american comm drama.

But seriously, how is making a comment about orgasms on facebook "sexual harrasment"? And how was this guy made KA in the first place? Please don't tell me he wears lolita.

>>8419623
>not knowing about girlypoop
are you not a lolita or...?

>>8419627
Lol it's not even this Kate, anon was talking about HLC mod.

>>8419615
hoot already made a post against AM

>>8419627
>>8419634
>>8419635
As I said, European Lolita so I know barely nothing about Houston Lolitas. Currently reading the links on the change.org page.
Mind filling me in on who this Kate is? Is she really fucking John? Isn't he married?

I wonder if the Japanese lolitas know what is going on?

>>8419658
I really hope they see this

>>8419623
Telling someone that you're going to give them an orgasm and then hassling them to tell you details about their sex life is sexual harassment, yes. I feel sorry for your acquaintances if you can't even see that.

>8416049
From what I can tell there are two Kates that people seem to be mixing up right now
Kate Davis: Girlyhoot/Girlytoot, LACE founder, annoying but harmless and she spoke up about her horrible experience at AM
HLC Kate: Mod of HLC and AM staff, sucks john's dick for more power, makes tasteless stupid jokes and seems to want to rule the community with an iron fist so she can play queen bee

I am happy that finally something is being done about those two. I don't think they should revoke the whole KA for all the others since it is a neat thing that helps get people motivated and that most KAs help with organizing major events.

>>8419627
They mean this Kate
>>8418386

>tfw too many white bitches named Kate

>change.org petition

You do realize those don't actually DO anything right?

>>8419893
Legally no. But it shows the force of the support for an action. So it's just about right for a situation like this where you can hold it to water and go "Look at all the people who want you gross people out."

>>8419900
Exactly. Almost 1,900 people have signed and the petition hasn't even been up for a full 24 hours.

>>8419900
Is it Misako who would have to remove them from their position if it were to happen?

>>8419965

I believe it's a guy called Takamasa Sakurai who runs the JLA or at least he used to.

>>8420000
I just googlled his name. He physically looks like a Japanese version of John.

so who exactly is going to show this to JLA?

>>8419681
>>8419658
I really hope that they do because I want them to feel that the badly organised events don't represent the Western community.
But at the same time, I'm worried that the big fuss of this campaign will jar with the cliche Japanese 'sweep it under the carpet' responses, and also make us look bad.

>>8420032
I don't think this would make us look bad. We have every right to make a fuss about this.

having the Petition is cool and all that jizz, but you are well aware that Misako who is chairman of the JLA doesn't speak english?
You would need to translate everything to make it presentable to her. Even then it's questionable if she would react in any way.

>>8420320
You do know they already translated everything?

>>8420000
No he is the creator of the Kawaii Ambassador title for the Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs as a way to promote tourism. Misako was named one and she sort of stole the phrase "Kawaii Ambassador" for the JLA.

>>8420326
even the proof storys from buttcape, chokelate and girlyhoot?

>>8420354
Yes they should translate the proof stories as well. It'll be much more effective in proving how messed up John is and that he needs to be removed.

http://blogtodayblogtomorrow.blog.com/2015/06/22/hello-world-pt1/

>>8420430
of course he started with "I son't do it for the money" and "look what I do for charity!". The things he told the girls were "Jokes I made with friends"
That part about Choke seems weird? I don't know. Not talking about the VS part, more the wigs and the german teaparty. It just doesn't add up to me. Maybe I'm biased but this sound more like a sob story on his side.

Look like john finally said something

http://blogtodayblogtomorrow.blog.com/2015/06/22/hello-world-pt1/

>>8420430
>>8420481
Oops lol

>>8420430
>If you are offended by sexual innuendos, dirty talks or comments about boobs and orgasms, you should not be my friend. Online or offline. This means no disrespect and I would suggest not engaging in conversation with me. I act this way with my friends regardless of gender, and as my friend, you should make it perfectly clear that you are uncomfortable with my conversation. I would respect you enough to stop joking.

First he says don't be his friend if you don't like his joking, then he says he'll stop if you want him to? He sounds like a tool.

>>8420496
''Ugh they took my overly sexual comment as harassment, stop being so offended!''. He also tries to play the misandry card. No John, we think anyone saying stuff like that is creepy.

>>8418560
Crosdboarder lolita here. What is happening who are they and why the hell is everyone flipping their burger over it?

>>8420496
Nigga can't separate joke time from business time apparently

Does anyone have any other others story caps aside from the Choke one?

>>8420581
Check the Anime Matsuri threads.

>>8420430
>At no time did she tell me she was uncomfortable with my jokes, or to stop.
"you don't need to know!"
Like come the fuck on.

It's just a sea of mansplaining in that post. What a fucking toolbox.

Not everyone's comfortable with sexual jokes coming from men in their 40s, regardless of if they have a wife or not. The dude's trying to pretend he's an innocent angel. Fuck you John

>>8420430
>"Waaah! Lolitas are bullies! They hate me because I'm a man! They just want attention! I'M SUCH A VICTIM"
John's account feels like such bullshit. Even the ~~context~~ for his posts didn't help his argument at all in my book. It feels like he's trying to deflect a lot of the issues people have with him by talking about the harassment claims instead.

This guy is an immature businessman and an even less mature person. For him to go so far as to accuse people of mongering for attention by speaking out against him is just a terrible fucking reaction, whether they are or not. He could at least apologize for not knowing how to run or organize anything for shit.

you just met choke, that make you her a good friend. Butts is your employee. that make it OK to talk about orgasm, boobs, sexual innuendo that's sexualharassment your on trying to justify it makes you a complete deuchbag.

>>8420430
Interesting. Current drama aside, I feel like these messages really show that Choke is a decent professional about her business - Even if she's an incredibly blunt person and not particularly great at PR.

>Basically, there's always someone worse.

>>8420430
Holy shit his explanations are worthless. Seriously, he's going with "it was a joke you guys don't be so sensitive, I won't change" Oh, you're right creepy sir its just my hysteria acting up I better go see a doctor so they can finger this discomfort out of me.

I'm not saying men aren't allowed to make lewd jokes to their lady friends. That's completely fine. However when you make your lady friends the object of those lewd "jokes", then they really aren't jokes anymore. At that point you're just dipping your dick in the water to see if you catch any lady fish with such gems as "I just walked by a sexy lingerie store and I thought of you."

I feel like this guy wants them to flirt back so he can start dicking them. He's not "joking", he's trying to figure out who's desperate enough to choke on his cock.

>>8420717
holy shit this was really well done, that dick bar tho

He is a tool but Choke comes across as a cunt yet again

has anyone read the latest girlyhoot's tumblr post? Is it true that KA have dropped the position?

>>8420430
>I'm not harassing you, you're harassing me!

>>8421206
i read the one where she talked about KA, honestly does anyone else get vibes that she's bitter that she wasn't picked? It is pretty clear through a lot of it for me that she was certain she'd get the position.

She also tagged it "i love lace" which annoys the hell out of me because she's totally talking shit about Ann in there

>>8421377
She straight up said she was bitter, lol. There's nothing wrong with feeling ripped off, at least she wasn't bashing Ann or trying to throw her under the bus too.

>>8421380
You've got to admit she made all the wedding event look like a joke. It may have looked fishy but it was the girl's special day.

>>8419623
It's not sexual harassment legally. Everyone who says otherwise is way oversensitive, people make sex jokes with their friends all the time. If they thought they were creepy she should've said something instead of humoring it with ~kawai desu ne~ comments and emoticons.

>>8421418
It's sexual harassment in a work environment, though, and I think that is the main issue being brought up.

>>8419893
b-but anon, if they get enough signatures, Obama will have them kicked out!

>>8419623

Uh, you do realize not just America is involved in this, too? Hence the huge drama?

>not knowing Kate

How new are you, anon? Or do you just live under a rock with your Bodyline?

>>8421462
That's the dream, anon. Just imagine it.
A State of the Union Address that interrupts Dancing with the Stars to have Obama step out and talk shit about John and Deneice.

>>8420430
Fuuuuck John.

Okay serious question: Can someone bring up all this evidence and show it to his wife? If multiple women come forward it won't look good for hubby.

I want to at least ruin his marriage. That'd just be divine.

>>8421512
I'm pretty sure Deneice is aware of all the posts and accusations that have been put forth at this point (even if she didn't before).

I guess there's been a lot of speculation about whether she's known all along or not, but yeah, she definitely knows now.

>>8421512
maybe she can't do anything because he put all the debt in their first business in her name, and he is "protecting" her. And because it is in her name, he doesn't have to pay it back with all the money he is getting from AM.

>>8421538
Wow, this just got a whole lot more depressing.

God, I just saw a picture of this John guy for the first time and he definitely does NOT look like someone who it legitimately interested in the fashion.

>>8422900
>http://tippingscales.tumblr.com/post/122115290908/pearl-is-me-as-hell-animenext-2015

>Judging someone's legitimate interest in something by the way they look.

Hypocrisy much?

>>8423006
I don't understand why that link is relevant

>>8423013
there's a john-defending newfag in these threads who keeps fucking up the quote/reply feature.

may be john himself lol

>>8420430
Did anyone cap this? He deleted everything.

>>8423129
>>8421784

Or just go through the AM threads and search for imgur links

>>8421445
This! It's inappropriate for work, period. Even if the person he was specifically targeting consented to it, it's wrong because it can create an uncomfortable and even hostile environment for others.

>>8418560
these two are both complete asses. Fuck em both.

>>8419681
I especially enjoy this as its out of context. If you read the whole convo it was about times for signing

>>8423201
It's 100% workplace harassment, yup. The fact that you used the term "hostile environment" makes me think both of us had to run through that same state-mandated training, because it uses that too.

Same training also spells out: you don't have to all be working for the same company/organization for it to "count," either. Just cause this didn't go down in an office doesn't mean it isn't workplace harassment