/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Gonna post my question here then >>8408653

>>8408729
People seem to cream themselves over their new releases every so often, but I'm still hesitant because their quality and sizing (even when custom) was always super hit and miss. I can't seem to dig up reviews from anywhere except newbie blogs.

>>8408114

Which one did you request? Maybe I'll take it from you instead

Does anyone have a pic of Fantasy Night Sky by IW? I noticed they announced it on their news section, but I can't find a picture.

gonna miss the milky cross re-release since I'll be in Vegas this weekend so I'm ready and willing to buy whatever markup people are offering when i return!

>>8409027
Is it this from the last thread?

>>8409038
Oh it totally is. Derp. I wasn't following the last thread. Thanks.

I know there's already a lot of sales groups on FB, but I'd really like to create a brand-only sales page because I hate scrolling through tons of Bodyline, off brand and replicas. Would anybody use it, or would it be kinda pointless?

Does anyone know any ocean/fish printed skirts/JSKs/OPs? I already have Lost Sea and Luna in the Sea on my wishlist... I've also seen Dream Marine, but it's too confetti for my tastes.
I saw a print with two angelfish kissing somewhere as well but can't seem to find it today.

Any help is appreciated!

>>8409157
I'd use it, I'm sick to my teeth of shitty replicas being sold on sales groups. Don't get me started on people putting up WTBs FOR replicas. christ.

>>8409165
Pumpkin Cat's whale series?

>>8409157
I would love it. You would however need to have an exact policy on what is brand and what isn't, beucase there are a lot of indie brands that can be interpreted as being in a grey zone (Haenuli, Triple Fortune, Antique Beast, I Do Declare etc)

>>8409200
Probably a bit too sweet for me, but thank you for the suggestion!

>>8409157
I definitely would use it, but I second what one of the previous commenters said about establishing what counts. I personally would like a group like that more if it was less brand vs off brand and more about quality. So, brands like haenuli, triple fortune, or Leif would be nice to include.

When is Dreamy Planetarium coming out, aside from the late June thing I've seen everywhere.
Do I just need to refresh their site every chance I get until it's released?

>>8409038

Posted this in the other thread before realizing it was saging. Good luck to everyone going for this!

I paid babyssb last week, no answer or notifications or anything. Is this normal?

>>8409251
What do they mean by special customer?

>>8409165
Here are the ones I know of, anon:

Cherie Cerise- Sparkle Jimble Skirt
Pink Up- Jellyfish series
Belladonna- Amelia's Locket, Twilight Twinkle Jelly, and Medusa's Legion
Juliette et Justine- Robe de méduse et la mer

>>8409260
It's a membership program where if you spend a certain amount in a year you get special perks and privileges.

>>8409255
I always get notified that they've recieved payment. They usually ship out within a week of receiving it. I would contact them, if I were you. They'll ban you if they don't think you've paid and even if they lift it since it's their fault, they'll act like it's yours and downgrade it to a warning.

>>8409220
>>8409205
>>8409173

Ah, awesome! I'll go ahead and start making the page now.

On the topic of indie brands, the standard would basically be established indie brands, so yeah, Peppermint Fox, Haenuli, Baroque, but not some randomer's Etsy shop or whatever, they have to be a fairly solidly well known indie brand. I would be including some whitelisted non lolita specific brands like Qpot (Maybe biased, as they're my favourite...), Triple Fortune, and Kokokim.

The only thing I'm a bit uncertain on is how to classify Taobao. I would not classify all Taobao as brand, but by that same token, I know some people consider Taobao stores indie brands. Like, I'd call maybe Krad Lanrete an indie brand but not some random taobao store.

Daniela's forhead is bigger than my life goals.

>>8409314
*forehead

>>8409311
Why not classify the bigger stores on Taobao? For example, allow KL, surface spell, CP etc. but not allow smaller/lower Quality stores like Boguta for example?

>>8409330

Good idea, thank you ~

>>8409333
No worries!

>>8408729
I think the quality of the fabric is alright but their sizing is fucking stupid. I bought a lady 80? Or an 85? Because it fit my bust measurements and when I get the shirt it's two sizes too big for me. I looked like a hunchback since the collar just floated off my neck by 4 inches. I went back to the website, got a size down so it would be a little bit snug and what I thought would fit better since it seemed their sizes ran big. I get the new shirt, it's so small I can't even get it over my head, it's like I was putting on a 7-year-old's shirt. I've heard stories of even custom sizing being messed up, where they mixed up bust/hip measurements.

>>8409251
If it starts on the 26th, anyone know what time they go up? So i know when to jump on my comuper to reserve?
And do you fill out that form to reserve the same way you would off it were a regular order?

>>8409330
How about Infanta? I know it's a newbie lolita's go-to first piece (aside from BL) but the last piece I got from them was still high quality.

I had this idea for a sales group last year, but we forgot about it and I just decided to fix it up today. Can some of you please join and tell me what you think of the format/idea? What can be improved on? Essentially it's more like a store than a sales group, there are categorised folders for each type of garment that can be clicked through to view all jsks, or all skirts, or all shoes, etc.

(facebook) /groups/672075716243016/

>>8409377
I'm already in a group that categorise their sales like that and I think it's annoying.

>>8409372
Oh I'd include them too, basically once it's a high quality store with a decent rep and if it's popular enough then I would say include it.

>>8409225
anybody?

>>8409383
Why? is it too much bother to put each thing in a category? Or that you can't combine sales because you can't see everything a person has posted?
Or something else?

>>8409397
Alot of people tend to not read the rules so they don't know that they have to share the picture, before it can be commented in the album. With messages typically ending up in the "other" folder, so it can really be a difficult to get in contact with them.

>>8409384
I love the idea, if it's created and you're willing to welcome in someone who's only just started buying and putting together coords, then let me (and all of us!) know the name.

>>8408388
>>8408419
>>8408568
Thank you! And yeah, >>8408520 made the same observation as I did. I own a few MM pieces from ~2009 when they still did mini-length and busts of 84-88cm max. Now it's like 88-92cm is the new normal for MM and going up to 100cm is possible with some brands.

>>8409165
Moonlight Dance by Cloudberry Lady is absolutely gorgeous.

>>8409412

I'm just drafting up the rules and shit now, shall I post a link once I've made it?

>tfw I am sitting behind someone on the bus who is wearing a Baby purse.

>>8409428
Please do!

>>8409225
That's basically what I've been doing this whole time. I seriously want to get one of the JSKs, so I'm just checking constantly.

Fellow gulls - By some stroke of luck I am moving someplace cheap and big. It is out in the middle of nowhere so there are trade offs, however - I am getting my dream of a master bedroom sized closet.

Should I go all out set dresser and just have dozens of rolling racks for my clothes or try to make it cute?

Am not making a thread for it because it's not a lolita room thread per se. I am looking for quick & dirty rental ideas. I can't drill holes but everything else is okay.

I'm still working on organising the whitelist and stuff, but here's the brand only sales page. I'd love crit if you guys have any.

groups/1454224274894025/

>>8409474
I figured that was the only way. damn.

>>8409495
Make sure you make it a closed group once it gets some momentum, otherwise it'll be swarmed by itas posting bodyline's latest releases because 'Omg that's a brand right?'

How many lps does meta usually stock?

>>8409505

I thought of that, I figured there might be some backlash at me saying no Bodyline...

>>8409270

Is this open to foreign customers? I'm going to assume no, because I spent an ungodly amount on IW stuff last year...but I have no idea what the qualifying amount is, so that doesn't help.

>>8409518
No. Also I'm pretty sure the qualifying amount is 200,000 yen a year.

>>8409515
Just a question; for WTB/WTT feedback, are we allowed to have positive feedback as a buyer? Eg. if I wanted to trade but I've only bought things in the past, may I post the link to my buyer feedback?

I'm the one that's new to the purchasing world, so I probably won't have seller feedback for a while unless 2011 bodyline crap counts

>>8409531

I figure yeah, that's fair enough.

>>8409477
are you going to stay there a long time or under a year? If you're staying longer then YES make it look nice.

>>8409386
Jesus Christ nobody ever fucking knows, not even the staff in store, until AP puts a notice up on their site. All you morons stop asking as if cgl or LU has some secret hookup to their main office

>>8409744
I just thought maybe someone knew. Especially when it comes to getting a SS to get it for me. Like can't I just pay someone to pre-order it somehow?

>tfw German thread is gone

go fucking public with your complaints about John, please, gulls. the janitor can't tell the difference between attacking someone and trying to discuss an exploiter safely. just go public with your experiences if you want change to happen, or make a RC or RC:U thread about it.

>>8409808
No you fucking can't. AP will drop it when no one expects it and then you have to fight.

>>8409808
You can "book" a spot with a SS (but not always guaranteed)

Jesus you're new. You can't pre-order AP stuff unless it's a MTO but you can reserve from other brands.

>>8409814
Well. I'm ready. So crazy, though, I really just want the pink and navy tights..

>>8409831
>Jesus you're new.
Yes I am but the other threads directed me to ask questions here even though they were a question thread and they weren't very helpful so..

>>8409808
>pre-order AP
har har har

>>8409835
It's mostly cosplayers in the help/question threads

>>8409838
Yea I know. I tried to post in the correct thread but it wasn't cause I guess that's usually who inhabits those threads. I made a dumb questions thread a long time ago and it's just been sitting around in catalog and a lot of stuff in that thread is unanswered.

I figured this is my next best bet as I was directed over here anyway.

>>8409836
>tfw everyone thinks you're trolling
>you just thought you had a simple question
>being this god damn dumb
life is hard.

This is a really tricky hobby actually. I had no idea such skill was involved in buying clothes.

I look disgusting in lolita. My boobs are too big and my shoulders too wide and I look like shit no matter what I do.
Please help.

Reposting my question in the new thread:
Is there anybody out there who would trade a jsk for an op in the same print, or am I better off just selling it and trying to find the jsk later?

>>8409920
Surgery? Weight loss? We can't help you if you just happen to be ugly. otherwise choose clothing that fits correctly and flatters your complexion. Not much else you can do.

>>8409920
Minimal poof in the sleeves and a line skirts.

>>8409930
Yes, there are lots of people who do that.

>>8409920
buy clothes that fit.

>>8408743

I also had terrible luck with them years ago, but gave them another try a few months ago because I needed a blouse in a non-standard color. It was terrible. I have pretty normal proportions (92 cm bust, 75 cm waist), and even though the torso fit, the sleeves were like three times as big as my arms (they were supposed to be fairly fitted, not princes sleeves). It looked really, really bizarre. The fabric quality was OK, but not anything special. Pretty much the same cotton material as bed sheets.

>>8409810
This
I have been hearing this shit for so long, if you guys don't want to use your ammo to fucking deal with John, then just shut up and accept that he's going to continue doing what he does.
I know some of you have information that could literally get him arrested, and he deserves it, but you don't get to complain if you have the power to do something and simply refuse.

>>8409165
?

>>8410011
I NEED IT

>>8410011
I wish it came in black

>>8409988
I'm trying to continue the thread here for now >>8406336

The problem is I don't directly have the permission to let out that information directly, there's a lot of people who don't want to out themselves personally. I just want someone to start the discussion on Rufflechat, I just can't do so personally because of the information that I know and l don't want those people feel like I'm going to jeopardize them. So I can only post what information I can until someone decides to change their mind and publicly post about John.

>>8409930

Nobody knows. Your best bet is to post it for trade and then post it for sale later if nobody bites.

>>8409988
Better to be passive-aggressive anonymously on the internet than actually be held liable under their real identities for the shit they claim. People like them don't like accountability, they liked bitching and gossip. Which is why as much of an asshole John is, he is the only one who steps up to be the figurehead to get shit done. These idiots who complain on the internet have zero initiative to do jack shit, things will stay as they are.

>>8409988
This guy is really clever for at least identifying the best group of people to take advantage of. Young girls, who are impressionable and easily intimidated/threatened, and who don't really have much empathy for others unless something bad happens to them personally.

Also, what would it look like if you took this to the police? "Hi there. I'm involved in a hobby where young girls dress in a way that might be mistakened as ageplay, and we think there's a guy taking advantage of us."

Ok. So i think I'm gonna try for Twinkle journey jsk, but i like the bow that comes with the op best. I wonder what the odds are of finding someone who would be willing to trade bows?

>>8410461

In the same colourway and either local or willing to ship it across the country/the world just to have a different bow? You're definitely gambling.

I'd suggest you post on your local comm and see if anybody else is interested in Twinkle Journey. Ideally you should be able to find someone who lives close by and wants the OP and prefers the flatter bow. If nothing else, you can make small group orders (like 2-3 LPs) to save on shipping since Meta allows you to order multiple LPs at once. I don't suggest making a large group order because I'm not sure if Meta items will fall out of the shopping cart while you're checking out.

Alternatively, you can try posting on other places (BST thread, LSE, comm sales) looking for a trade partner, specify your location or preferred partner's location (eg- US-only or "x state only") and arrange something that way.

If you really find anyone to trade with, you may want to consider either buying two sets and selling off the surplus, or looking ways or for someone to help you modify the flatter bow into the standing bow (it doesn't actually look very hard, and is easier than modifying the bow from standing to folded. But I'm not sure of your skill level, and i think the modified bow will be smaller than the one that comes with the OP)

>>8410593

Oy, dropped words that change the meaning of the last paragraph, sorry

>If you really *can't find anyone to trade with, you may want to consider either buying two sets and selling off the surplus, or looking *for ways or for someone to help you modify the flatter bow into the standing bow (it doesn't actually look very hard, and is easier than modifying the bow from standing to folded. But I'm not sure of your skill level, and i think the modified bow will be smaller than the one that comes with the OP)

>>8409421
I have the skirt in navy/green and the print/fabric is absolutely astonishing IRL.

Really noob question but how would the skirt look if the petti underneath was a lot shorter than the skirt?

When is Mary Magdalene re-releasing Perfume Bottle this year? I have a mighty need.

>>8410915
Like a jellyfish

>>8409869
Not who you were replying to, but don't worry about it too much. That's the beauty of being anon, next post you have a fresh start and no one knows who you are. We were all newfags at some point, and now you know about AP releases.

>>8410915
Like a lampshade

>>8410915
If you pull the petti down to hip level and wear a skirt or smaller petti of some kind over the top (starting at waist level) to maintain a continuous line it may look alright.

>>8410935
No date is given. It's just listed as "Under Consideration".

>>8410940
Yeah thanks, I'm at least doing research before diving in

>>8410961
So when buying a petti, do I measure the skirt length on a jsk and get a petti to match?

>>8410983
http://lmgtfy.com

>>8410983
Get one that is 3-5 cm shorter. On average.

There are many jsk lengths, you can't go around getting a ton of them to match each dress.

http://www.lacemarket.us/shipping-cost/

what the hell?

>>8410986
There's a reason I'm asking you guys and not other people.

>>8410988
Thank you!!

>>8410992
Hahah vendetta maybe??

>>8410995
There are like 500 lolita blogs and websites that say the exact same thing as the other anon

>>8410998
Yea, yea, shame on me

>>8411067
Yea verily, Olde English anon. keep on keeping archaic words alive my nice friend.

I've never sold a dress, only bought off japanese auctions. I'd like to make a trade/wtb, am I better off trying on the egl comm sales or the facebook group? Both? I'm not involved in either atm.

>>8411073
Are you the same person who spell corrected my yea to yeah once?
Talk about nitpick...

>>8411128
That brought out all the aussie lolitas out pretty fast kek

Also, is Marie coming out from what ever hole she dug herself in? She's posting on some aussie lolita sale facebook pages.

>>8409454
OT but how do you even start a conversation when it comes to Baby? Like if I saw something wearing Baby I'd want to compliment them and maybe chat about glorious burando, but if you just pipe up with
>hey I like your baby purse
that sounds super weird and even insulting if someone doesn't know the brand is actually named that. Just imagine one normalfag saying to another that they like their "baby thing".
Baby the Stars Shine Bright is a mouthful in that kind of situation. Does anyone ever say bee-tee-ess-ess-bee?

The other brand names are weird as well but at least none of them make it sound like you're saying "hey I like that dress you're wearing that looks like it was meant for an infant".

Has anybody gotten invoiced for the innocent world lucky packs yet?

>>8410011
>mighty need
>high-waisted dresses look like crap on me
Fml

>>8409165
Angelfish print? The only thing I can think of is this by Magic Tea Party:
http://m.intl.taobao.com/detail/detail.html?id=43868148445
I've seen the navy jsk in person and it looks great btw

No LM thread so I figured I'd post here. How do you guys handle this bullshit, just give bad feedback?

Took several days to even respond, too.

>>8411248
Give them bad feedback.

>>8411248
I'm pretty sure this same thing happened with me and this buyer, anon. Definitely leave negative feedback, and possibly contact a mod (even though they're pretty non-responsive at this point, this girl needs to be banned at some point).

>>8411265
>>8411254
Yeah, I saw a lot of posts sounding like this in the LM threads before.

The username is childofspades in case anyone wants to know for their own protection.

I'll be leaving the negative feedback and contacting the mods, thank you for the input!

>>8411268
Different user than the person who contacted me, actually, but I'm wondering if they're trying to dodge negative feedback by creating multiple accounts. Your message sounds exactly like the email I got from another user's supposed mother.

>>8411248
lol just send them an invoice and say she is committed to buy the dress.

>>8411274
Never sent me the pp address to invoice, is the problem.

>>8411276
It's at the top of your sold listing, where it says the username of the winner

>>8411281
holy shit I am an idiot.

Thank you for pointing that out, it'll make things quicker in the future for me.

>>8411231
>Oh hey, I really like your purse. Where did you get it?
>It's from a brand called Baby, the Stars Shine Bright.
>I thought so! blah blah blah

There you go.

Can anyone ID this Meta OP? I just won it on an auction but i can't find anything about it anywhere and it's driving me nuts. The only thing i know is that it's from Metamorphose since there was a picture of the washing? tag and it had their phone number on it.

>>8411236
I think some anon in an earlier lolita general did (tim?)
Also slightly off topic ,but I missed you /cgl/. I've spent the past couple weeks on normie boards like /b/, /pol/, and /r9k/ and wow they are full of cancer

>>8411307
Ahhh i was eyeballing that one! I kinda wanted to get it but then when i checked back on it a day later i saw it had a bid so i was like ehhhh I'll let them have it. Lol

lol, what is happening?

>>8411349
"Chill."

If you want someone to be calm about something stupid you did, you don't tell them to chill. Lel. maybe beware of this seller

>>8411353
Dumb bitch.. You just don't use someone else's picture.

>>8411353
Oh god, both sides are overreacting hardcore. Grow up.

Maybe i'm the only one but i'm really tired to see the same "celestial" themes for every brand lately. Sky, crosses, unicorns, veils and blue colors. Also IW, ugh...And AP is starting to not be anymore my favourite brand, it's getting really dull and repetitive. Give me old school or toys/sweets prints anyday.

>>8411248
Leave bad feedback. Even if the ~whoops muh bby did it~ story is true, she shouldn't let that child have access to her money or sites like this. ESPECIALLY if it happened more than once.

>>8411353
People using AP stock pictures isn't frowned upon because nobody is retarded enough to think those pictures are from anywhere but AP. How dumb is this girl?

>>8409316
*fivehead

>>8411414
She said that in reply to "you don't have the copyright for it" which is an equally retarded statement.

>>8409358
Use the Japanese site and translate for the release, don't go on the English site because they update later.
It comes up in the US some time Thursday afternoon, I've seen times range from 5PM PST, to 11PM PST.

You will have to submit the order form they have so you can have it open and filled out with your other information.

That being said since they still use the order form there's no guarantee you'll get it so your best chance is to submit that order form as soon as you can after the dress comes up.

Good luck!

I have the Cosmic sailor jsk but I can't seem to coordinate it right. It makes me look really...bulky for some reason. My body shape is like an hourglass so maybe that's why?
Would really appreciate any advice!

>>8411353
>>8411349
What an idiot. Regardless of legality and "waah muh copyright", using other's people's photos makes you look shady as fuck. She should of just used the stock photo

>>8411442
I think anyone with larger shoulders or bust will look bulky in this kind of cut.

>>8410992
I saw that too, how is that not taken down already with personal information being shown? So shady...

>>8411165
She started trying to sell on lacemarket too. Has anyone called her out yet?

>>8411442
I've seen it coordinated with a chain around the waist like this, and also with belts.


On a different note, how hard is it to buy from Automatic Honey releases?

>>8411545
They sell out in minutes so have everything ready as soon as you know when something you want will be released!

>>8411527
Seriously, if some bitch posted my personal info for all to see like that without my permission, I'd flip my shit and it'd be instant negative feedback.

>>8411353
At least she clearly outs herself as someone you wouldn't want to buy from.

http://tenshishop.com/augustclosingnotice/

nooooo, CT will be closed during August

what will i do now if my dream dress shows up on auctions

>>8411644
Tenso, From Japan, etc...

>>8411527
Marie? Which seller is this.....I just had to return a dress to an Australian...

Does anybody know if there's any way to tell the difference between the Gathered Chiffon releases? I just got one of lacemarket and have no idea, the corset lacing doesn't untie at all and it seems smaller? I previously owned it in a different colorway and it seems really different.

>>8411669
onedayinparadise, she's not even trying to hide it. Not sure if that dumb or that ballsy.

>>8410461
I didn't even realize the headbows were different

>>8411420
Thank you so much for this! I know a lot of people are sitting on this print but I'm just really gay for unicorns and haven't bought a new release since last year so I'm excited to get this one and see what other colors out might have

>>8411690
The first two release are way smaller than the other ones. A firend of mine got the second, and I wouldn't recommend it for anyone over 68cm waist. The lacing does untie though.

>>8411442
If you don't already, I think you'll want poof that will make the breadth of the skirt larger than your shoulders.

>>8411693
Well I guess that's a relief, it was a different seller. Still have to leave negative feedback though.

Has anyone else received their shirts from theClobbaonline Dear Celine reserve for the Sweet Lace blouses?

Look at this gem from Meta I found on mbok. You think you have seen it all...

If you create an account on Yahoo Auctions or Mbok can you have a saved list of keywords like you can with Ebay?

>>8411846
Never change Meta, never change.

>>8411772
I can fit into it thankfully, but none of the pictures from all the releases on lolibrary have the sewed on, untieable corset lacing, so I'm just confused about which release it could be, maybe the very first? I know it's legit from the tag, but they don't have any sku number to identity it from.

>>8411846
what is this abomination

>>8411846
>welcome to my twisted auction

>>8411926
Yes. You can save auction alerts for when new items matching your keywords are listed and also saved searches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bAPlojfgO0
What's the dress she's wearing in the first 20 seconds? I wonder if anyone can identify it.

>>8412041
holy shit

>>8412174
http://lolibrary.org/apparel/baniran-sweet-scallop-op

I think this is possibly it.

>>8411349
>>8411353
She clearly didn't intend to cause trouble. Using someone's picture wasn't the best idea, but she didn't have to have the hoses turned on her jfc.

>>8412341
She's been obnoxious in the past which is probably why people are coming down, if I were to guess.

Farrkk Baby is slowly releasing the coppelia series but nothing on the pinocchio one! Ffff baby why?

>>8412350
Disregard, I just went and looked at the whole thing, she was just being an idiot.

>>8411353
I would be weary of that girl. she wanted to buy something from me and agreed to pay and then vanished off face book. I couldn't message her or get on her page any more and the next day the invoice was canceled. I never heard from her again.

>>8412431
>I couldn't message her or get on her page any more
sounds like she blocked you to get out of paying tbh

>>8409157
Make it and the lolitas will come.

>>8409515
If you thibk you'll bget hemming and hawing about Bodyline, make it a sales page for PREMIUM items. That'll keep out the riff raff.

Is it just me or is the general this time around giving everyone extra high blood pressure?
Poor noobie, next time don't come to us for help, just try to find out on your own.

>>8412443
The whole time line of events was very strange. But that's kind of what I assumed happened.
I've really had crappy lucky with buyers recently.

>>8409157
I join all the sales groups anyway. Do it.

Finally! IW is sending out invoices for the happy packs!!

I got a dress on the mail, for which I have been waiting too long.

Now, I feel like I don't like it anymore, or at least when I look closely to the details, they do not make me feel in love. Just meh...

However,I do like the print and the color goes ok with my skintone. I fear I'm desesperately trying to convince myself to not sell it.

What do you do when you are in this position to convince yourself to sell it/keep it?
It is an expensive dress, so keeping sitting in the wardrove would be wasteful.

>>8411353
>you don't have copyright
except that's fucking wrong

>>8413124
Ooooh I can't wait for people to start selling off what they don't want.

>>8410062
this claim to the pólice would actually be effective. Just avoid starting negative:

"Our hobby is to dress in frilly dresses, and this guy is taking advantage of us in X way".


You don't have to bring up the ageplay thing, that doesn't even belong to Lolita, stop it

>>8413137
I've had this happen with some dream dresses. A few I've sold because I genuinely enjoyed the hunt more than the catch and the others I've worn at least once before reconsidering selling.

If it's an expensive (and I'm assuming OTT) main item, is it possible to wear it in a toned down manner or if there is a simpler version of it to buy that instead.

>>8413146
I'm just hoping I get some good blouses.. I'm in desperate need of some blouses

Kooter is the special guest for the next Baby teaparty lol

Hey so is yukapee

So cgl what is stopping you from realizing your weaboo japanese mosel dream? Camwhoring, cheap taobao fashion, youtube videos, photoshop, and some BS language school enrollment are all you need to go model for Baby and AP!

>>8413162
She doesn't even look like herself? Wtf?

>>8413159
It is the OTT version, and there is no way around to wear it casually, too much frill, and pattern.

I also have noticed that the bust area fits a bit loose, bt it might not be a big deal.

There is a jsk, version and skirt, but nobody sells it and if they do is overpriced (e.g. skirt is sold for the Price that the main OTT piece had at retail).

I will wear it to some meet, maybe wait one week or two. However, I'm worried its value will drop due to time and newer releases.

Any experience with trades?

>>8413168
She never looks like herself, let's be real.

>>8413166
>Yukapon
wtf
How is the even related to lolita? At least Dakota is a legit model at this point, but all Yuka has done is make incestuous ageplay YT videos and move to Japan to fuck some weirdo idol manager dude. I don't care for Kootz either but at least she isn't a trashy little creep. Like even by my country's super liberal live-and-let-live standards Yuka's past would be considered scandalous, wtf are these Japanese people thinking?

>>8413225
yukapee was a street snap regular for a while, slept with junyan and did a lot of fairy kei

Any updates in the possible MTO of Misty Sky, I've been on the edge of ky seat for days and I need to know now.
Also, for many of you Misty might not be your dream dress and don't really care. But it would be so awesome if several could just drop an email to AP asking for that MTO. Id do it if it were another seagull's dream dress.

>>8413253
Already did anon! Please send a email for a re-release/MTO for Holy Lantern yeah..?

>>8413253
>>8413257
Sorry guys AP doesn't want to make one. They have a notice on their misty sky page that basically says
>thanks for the attention
>we don't want to rerelease now
>please stop sending us emails

http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/misty_sky/index.htm

>>8413137
I don't convince myself, I just sell it. I've had to clean out my father's place after he died and it left the impression on me to never ever keep things around I don't actually use.

>>8413261
kek

>>8413261
maybe now misty sky will shoot back up to $1000+ in 5+ years
i can dream right
>tfw now owns misty sky
>tfw in 5+ years will be 30+, could sell by then
>for now, satisfaction of owning misty sky op in pink

>>8409165
i like magic tea party's angel fish jsk!

>>8411165
I'm so grumpy the mods haven't banned her. Maybe we should message them about it, we can't just let her go back to her old shit.

>>8411165
Marie like gasaii or whatever her URL is?

>>8413146
>>8413161
Me too. I feel like one of those sea animals who waits for scraps to sink to the bottom so they can eat them

>>8413288
The aussie sale and buy facebook page?

>>8413289
Nah crazy marie who was the owner (??) of ODIP, constantly threatened and lied to her customers, etc etc, went batshit and dropped off the face of the earth. She has some posts about her on gtfoegl.

>>8413290
beautiful image, especially with the talk about sea themed dresses. We need an angler fish print.

>>8413146
Same, I love IW shoes so I'm on hyper alert right now. Can't wait to see all those super cheap small shoes.

>>8413257
Will do Anon, iys another DD of mine
>>8413261
Are you sure? According to Google translate theyre "undecided" and "The opinion from customers will be helpful"
>>8413276
>tfw pink is the ugliest colorway

>>8413473
>Trusting google translate
>pink might be her favorite colorway

did anyone see acchirin in lashy's goodwill parody?

I don't understand the love of Misty Sky. Of all the AP dresses to obsess over, this one is the most simple looking. If you like clouds that much you can find cloud fabric anywhere to make your own

>>8413573

>>8413573
It reminds me of a bed sheet my sister had in the 80s

>>8413569
link??

>>8413579
now that you mention it, it does have a very Care Bears-like quality to it..

>>8413581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsZPOW-jhpE

>>8411414
^THIS

>>8413573

Not surprisingly, people have tried.

Surprisingly, the results were quite bad. Pyjama fabric is too stiff to drape softly like Misty Sky, and the cloud graphics on them are often much larger and cruder than on Misty Sky.

I'm still not a fan of it, but after seeing other people try I do appreciate the simplicity of AP's version.

>>8413587
That looks like a pretty awesome Goodwill. The one in my town is tiny in comparison.

>>8413587
>Headgear!
I snorted tea up my nose

Think AATP will make a spooky print this year?

>>8413587
The red shoes were actually cute, the pink blouse looked ok from what I can see.
I've actually found a lot of nice vintage blouses at thrift stores

>>8413773
Probably around september, yeah

>>8413791
They've had a history of June/July ones so far so I've been getting worked up!

>>8413818
Huh.. why do I have a memory of them being released too late to receive them before halloween then. You're probably right!

Did anyone else see buttcape's post about HLC?

>>8413853
2 other threads have been talking about it (AM and GTP)

>>8411324
>Implying /cgl/ is not equally full of cancer.
Kek

>>8413854
my bad, I didn't even see those. Thanks for the heads up!

>>8413476
http://jisho.org/search/%E6%9C%AA%E5%AE%9A

my first jsk arrived today, i'm so happy!

>mfw my mom says she wants me to wear it as is

>>8413225
Yuka has modelled for them a little bit

>>8413225
>incestuous ageplay YT videos
Whoa what the fuck, I know a lot less about Yukapon than I thought I did, and now I'm not sure I want to know more

>but I sort of want to know more

I'm about to buy a dress from Meta's website, and maybe it's really fucking obvious, but what the hell is 'BC length?'

>>8414161
back center length

>>8414184
I never would have guessed that. Thanks, anon-chan.

>>8413305
Yeah, I think they should ban her from there and wherever else if she has the nerve to post.

Some idiot backed out after bidding and now I have to contact the runner up.
Should I charge the max-bid that was outbid like on ebay or their first bid?

Fuck, how on earth do you keep berets from falling off your head?

>>8413261
>>8413276
>>8413476
Confirmed with a SS, Misty Sky MTO or rerelease is still undecided.
>I STILL HAVE HOPE

>>8414553
If it gets a MTO I might buy it just because why not

>>8414547
Sew in the clips from hair extensions? They sell them without the hair wefts on ebay.

>>8414547
Bobby pins is what I've heard

>>8414547
Have a really big head

What does MTO stand for?

>>8414609
made to order
hownewareyou

>>8414583
you can't poke a hole through a cotton beret unless you want to damage it though

>>8414591
uh no, some brand berets have no stretch and wouldn't even fit on a bulbous head

>>8414611
I'm new too and holy shit, now I get why misty sky was such a big deal

>>8414562
Support your fellow seagulls' dream and hit AP with a message, please let's make this happen!!

>>8413850

You aren't wrong. They had one release that arrived too late for Halloween so every year after that they've been making their Halloween releases in June/July.

>>8414014
Oh, god, that happened with me too. Bought BTSSB's Wiz Me Over The Rainbow.

>"I'll have to get a blouse to wear it with"
>"Or not, anon. You'd look silly"

>>8413473
>>8413276
>>8414553
Agree pink is ugliest colorway

Direct translation is:
>Thank you for always using Angelic Pretty
>We thank you for the numerous messages and inquiries regarding the Misty Sky Series
>Because of the incredibly large volume of inquiries we have received regarding another rerelease or a MTO, we cannot reply to each one individually. Please understand and accept our apologies.
>As of now, we have no plans to rerelease or MTO the Misty Sky series.
>We will consider all our customer's suggestions and reflect on a better solution in the future.
>We sincerely thank you for all your precious comments and suggestions.
>Please continue to patron Angelic Pretty in the future.

So basically
>too many damn emails
>lol no MTO for you
>keep giving us your money

wait no talk about the milky cross re-release? No cries for MTO?

>>8414761
Pink is also my favorite, but the other colorways are very pretty too. I just like how much more subtle it is.

I'm also guessing they're not going to make it a MTO thing, since all the other MTOs were announced within a week of release right?
And with the number of people making sock puppet accounts to mail them (which I'm sure they'd know about) they probably can't actually forecast how many they'd sell


>>8414769
I'm not impressed with the execution of the print, it looks a bit messy on the sheer material and doesn't show up. Not sure about its popularity, but people have been discussing it on Lolita Updates a lot more than here (if I'm not mistaken, there was discussion of it in the last general thread)

>>8414769
I bought some accessories from the release (already have a main piece). It was really slow and not at all bloodbath. Most things were still in stock by 13 minutes. Interestingly, the OP sold out in Pink and Lav first, the SK in Navy, and the JSK in Pink and Lav first as well.

The plain headbow sold out faster than any of the main pieces, I guess cause it's so versatile. I bought it to match other pieces as well.

I think AP gravely misjudged how popular Milky Cross is. They have a problem of prioritizing the Japanese market's demand before the Chinese or international market. They don't realize most of the buying power comes from overseas. It won't go to sale, but it's not hype.

>>8414746
i tried to explain to her how jsk's were typically worn and showed her some pictures, and she was like, "aren't you a little too old for that, anon?"

"oh, anon, i don't really want you wearing lolita. i mean, i haven't seen you with the blouse, but you'd look so much better without it. it's sexy. like a pin-up girl. very 50's."

i feel like i brought this on myself. ;_;

>>8414497
their max

>>8409251
Just put in my special order for this. Now I just wish that my first order as a special member is done right. Haha!

>>8409518
>>8409530

I live in Sweden and have a special membership. You need to get up to the 200,000 yen a year quote and have an address in Japan they can send stuff to. The tricky part is that you also need to make the money transfer from a Japanese bank account OR take Cash upon delivery, this most SS wont do.

I send my stuff to friend that lives in japan in her name and IW is ok with that. She then pay COD when they send it out.

>>8411353
>it was on google so i dont need permission.

>>8414850
why so much pressure to be sexy? geez

>>8414850
Why on earth does your mum want you to look sexy? What the actual fuck, you didn't bring this on yourself, your mother has issues.

>>8415358
I'm guessing living vicariously through her daughter

>>8415343
>>8415358
>>8415364
honestly, i think because she might think lolita is an ageplay sort of fashion, and because she'd like me to wear more feminine things or be more "age-appropriate"--basically just wear regular clothing. which is weird, because she compliments me regularly for what i wear (dresses, mostly high-waisted vintage ones with sleeves. a few dresses without sleeves, but complimented with a cardigan, since i'm very conservative about showing my arms. if it gets too hot, since i live in the caribbean, i just wear shorts), unless she's feeling particularly nitpicky, she thinks i've worn something too many times or it's too "over-the-top".

i also think she says these kinds of things because she's very appearance-conscious, and knows that i've been bullied for my looks. she's always maintained that everyone has to try hard to look good, which i don't disagree with, but i hate how she executes her philosophy because she takes it very personally if i'm viewed as a failure/weird/etc. it's pretty gross.

>>8414850
>mother calling her daughter sexy
ugh

>>8414761
I've honestly never seen a fashion brand so stuck-up and retarded that when they receive numerous emails from their customer base about how they would be willing to throw money at them for a certain item, they say "keknothanks."

I suddenly don't feel sorry for all their brand flops that don't sell well.

What are the chances of getting a dress on release if you're second in line for chibitenshi? I've never ordered from her before, so I don't want to get my hopes up.

I figured I'd ask here because the BJD threads are full of entitled shit posters and I'm sure you guys have more experience than them.

So, I want my BJDs to dress in Sweet Lolita. I just don't want to spend upwards of $150 to dress a fucking doll. I've been looking at this set that comes with everything but the shoes, and it's slightly over $50.

Thoughts? What would you improve about it? Any ideas on what I should be looking for? I love Lolita clothing, but I can't seem to express what I want.

>>8415462
How do you know you're second in line? Did she say?

You're better off than me anon. Of all the times I've tried to commission her for a release she usually just tells me "I'll try" and never lets me know where I stand. I say if she's made it known that you're her second, that your chances are at least better than most.

>>8415450
It's all about brand identity. AP wants to stay ~*exclusive*~ and in high demand, so the less they release the more rabid everyone is to get their hands on it.

>>8415464
That's ita as fuck. CC actually has a doll section but I don't think it's on their website. If you can get a in store SS I'm sure you can find something much prettier for the same price.

Im out of town to visit a dear lolita friends. We go out with our frills and have a good time, I was so exited when packing I forgot the most important piece, my petti.
I asked her but sadly the only A shaped petti she has is too small and deflated for my dress.
I even asked her comm but no response
>tfw Ill look deflated and wont be able to take nice pics.

>>8415493
you can layer a few 'normie' skirts underneath your dress, your friend is bound to have a few she can lend you? bodyline skirts are actually really good for filling dresses out
i've done that before and it looked fine, plus it actually holds it shape better than an airy petti (it doesn't sink in even if your bag is resting on it)

>>8413868
but /b/ is far worse

>>8415486
they have a separate site for doll things

http://closetchild-doll.ocnk.net/

>>8414014
My mom says the same, damn. She hates peter pan collar blouses but she says i look good on high collared lacy cutsews (from Taobao), wut...But i can't wear that when the weather is warmer ofc.
>>8414850
At least i'm glad my mom didn't tell me i look sexy with no blouse, just not her taste because she dresses like "young fashion basic bitch" i mean tee and jeans. She says i want to dress too weird, but other than that nothing much.
>>8415446
I'm somewhat conservative about showing too much skin (never show cleavage, never too short skirts or ass length shorts, tees instead of camis, 1000 den tights with short skirts, no stilettos and other sexy feminine fashion) i dress very girly compared to some girls but not sexy or in the sense of normalfag. I have lots of black, casual gothic/punk fashion.
>mfw mom likes if i dress gothic non lolita
>it's something

>>8415528
My mom is a bit concerned about me wearing weird clothes, too, and seems to prefer styles that show off my body. My father, on the other hand, scoffs at basic bitch fashion and loves it when I wear lolita or really anything out of the ordinary.

>wearing gothic lolita coord
>mom goes "Anon are you sure that much black is a good idea? People might get the wrong idea! They might think you're a mean person, or into that violent kind of music! Also why is your skirt so big? You're so thin, you should show that off!"
>dad goes "You look like an evil Alice in Wonderland. Awesome!"
kek

I feel bad for people whose parents are super disapproving of lolita. Even if you don't live in their house anymore, it's nice to get some support from your loved ones.

How do you feel about buying very damaged dresses?

What price drop would you expect to be fair?

On one hand, an old dream dress can come for less than usual, but on the other, it is just clothing, which common sense would consider near to trash.

>>8415462
I've been second in line and gotten my first choice and I've been way far back and gotten my 3rd choice. It really depends on the release, but I'd say you have a decent shot at something. I recommend sending her a 2nd and 3rd choice at least, because if she can't get your 1st choice, she'll try for those. Good luck, anon!

Secrets are up. Does anyone else have difficulty getting the new captcha system to work? The puzzle pieces are fine or whatever but often they don't load at all and I end up not being able to comment.

>>8415541
Your dad sounds pretty cool, anon.

I'm an adult and my parents just don't give a shit what I wear at all at this point. I'm sure they were petrified during my stretched-ears-and-metal-shirts phase, but at this point that was almost ten years ago.

>>8413868
equally full? please. most posts on cgl are relevant to the board, and although it's summer most people don't respond to bait (so sage on me for responding to you)

honestly i think /ck/ is the most cancer ridden board of them all, pure shitposting 100% of the time

>>8415476
it makes me wonder, maybe they want to drive up demand and resale price of their ~exclusive~ dresses so that they can start charging more? After all, if people are paying $600 for one of their dresses on the secondhand market, maybe they figure they can eventually charge $500 for a print and get away with it?
Either way, ugh, the rabid chaos even for the most awkward and busy prints makes me want to buy AP less and less.

>>8415549
I think as long as it is priced accordingly to the amount of damage and each area of damage is documented and explained to the buyer, I see no problem with wanting to buy or sell damaged pieces. I do of course expect damaged pieces to again, be priced accordingly, since you will probably be putting time and money into it to fix it, however much it may cost. Obviously I don't want to pay $200 for a dress that's heavily damaged that I will have to half that buying price or more than that to fix.

As for what is a "fair" price drop it just depends on what exactly is the damage, how heavy/extensive it is, and how much it will probably cost to fix it. I.e. if it would cost $20, subtract that from the price.

>>8415549
Depends
>speck of a stain you can't see unless looking for it in a busy print?
-$20 assuming it's in otherwise good condition
>pit stains/large noticeable stain or fading
It would have to be super cheap, that's just gross
>seam rip/broken zipper
-$40 to cover the cost and travel to fix it
>non seam rip
Again would probably have to be super cheap like around $50 or less. Non-seam rips are very difficult to do something with unless it's in the bodice, and even then I wouldn't want to pay jsk prices for something I have to turn into a skirt and will be basically worthless after

>>8415486
annahouse makes doll clothes I think

Anyone have any examples of headwear with tea cups? I think I'm gonna make a (obviously OTT) head piece for an upcoming meet and I'd love to put a literal tea cup on my head cause why not. I know it's been done before, just wondering if anyone has photos of good examples to give me a little inspiration. It'll be an AIW themed coord.

>>8415541
My dad says i look better in pants or leggins and lolita skirts are too puffy bla bla. Ugh, i dislike bodycon/tight skirts they are too unconfortable. At least your dad is supportive, that is good!
>They might think you're a mean person, or into that violent kind of music!
She need to know more how people is in real life, not living in stereotypes. My mom at times thinks the same when she sees someone who listen to "metal", i prefer industrial but well.... you know normalfag parents. I'm the chillest and i love to have a plain and calm life/no party YOLO all night, but my music tastes are into loud music. People thinks too much when they see someone out of the ordinary, infact people when see us in lolita thinks we are a "fetish thing". And your mom maybe thinks that, the other "lolita" type.

>>8415541
You have an awesome dad.

The first time I'm showed not mother a coord (it was classic) she stopped talking to me and told my dad I must be doing drugs. Fucking moms, maaan

>>8415793
What the fuck? How on earth did she make a connection between, of all substyles, classic and drugs?
Some people are fucking crazy oh my god.

>>8415797
Classic lolita > lots of ruffles > alice in wonderland > mushrooms > acid
is my guess

>>8415797
I don't want imagine what your mom will tell you if you wear sweet or gothic. Classic (the non OTT version) is more "acceptable" compared to the other styles. It's odd how people associate everytime dress up non mainstream with drugs, while there are many plain normalfags that do drugs and many people into alt styles that don't smoke, drink or get drugs.

>>8415797
My mom thinks anything alternative= drugs. Yes, she is pretty crazy.

>>8415809
I'm not sure if it's even that. It's definitely a weird connection to make, but ~normal~ people in general (I mean, I know that even all of us do it in or outside of lolita) tend to think anyone dressing out of the ordinary must be crazy, on drugs, have some sort of issues, etc. Like think of how people see emo/goth/punk dressed people and assume they are depressed or violent/angry.

>>8415849
>It's odd how people associate everytime dress up non mainstream with drugs

how english do?

>>8415849
I wanted to dress up in decora. Because if she freaked out about classic I think she would lose her god damn mind over decora. Many lolz would be had.

▲
▲ ▲

>>8415549
Last time I complained about this regarding a damage on a rare print, the seller showed up and basically called me an entitled asshole. So I won't :^) Glad to see other people tend to agree that damaged dresses should generally sell for less.

>>8415666
Interesting break down. I'm about to sell a dress that's in perfect condition EXCEPT for one of the waist tie buttons popped off. I still have it, the waist ties, and the spare button is still sewn in. I'm just a shit seamstress (and thereby a shit lolita tbh) and I'm afraid to ruin the dress by sewing the button back on. So I was just going to reduce the price and sell it as "damaged" since the buyer is gonna either have to sew the button back on or pay to have a tailor do it.

>>8415967
A missing button is nothing if you also send the button with the dress. Maybe lower the price $5 or something. If they can't sew they most likely have a mother who is a bit handy with needle and thread.

>>8415734

You could always look up the teacup that went with Wonder Party. There was a minor rash of nicely made teacup headdresses right after that, but I don't think the photos survived to today.

Pic is Prince Duck Sweets, indie brand from Japan. There's more on their blog, but it's alot of entries to wade through.

Ughhhhh I'm not sure whether this is the right thread for this or not but I was hoping you guys could give me some advice.

I've been selling some shit. A little while ago I got a message from a girl asking to buy a bag I was selling. I was like yeah sure, here are your shipping costs. She seemed happy with that, asked if I could list the item on Lacemarket to make her life easier. I did so, choosing one of the short three day listings with a buy it now for her and linking her. She saw the message, said she'd pay when she was next at her PC and I waited. And waited. And two days later, I messaged her being like "yo I've not received payment?" in politer words obviously, and she was like "oh I was busy I'll pay tomorrow." It's now been three days, not a peep out of her, I've messaged her saying the listing has expired, is she backing out of the sale, does she still want the bag, what am I to do and she's seeing the messages but just not answering me. Anybody got any advice? I can't even leave neg/neutral feedback because she contacted me through Facebook, I don't know her username on LM or anything.

>>8416029
Tell her if she doesn't send you payment within 48-72 hours you will be opening the sale back up to someone else since she hasn't been responsive and keeps giving you the runaround. It takes about 1 or 2 minutes to log onto paypal and pay an invoice/send money. If she has the time to read your message and type "I was busy, I'll do it later" she has the 2 minutes to go on paypal. You could also ask if she just needs a hold or something if she's waiting for a paycheck - but if she does ask for a hold, demand a deposit first. To me it sounds like she's either having second thoughts or waiting for money, either way she should be able to just be up front about it with you instead of giving you excuses and not responding. IMO I would just say if I don't get money in x hours I'm selling it to someone else, wouldn't even do a hold if she asked since that behavior makes me not want to trust her to actually have the money at the end of the holding period.

>>8416029
Just forget about her, she sounds like a flake and probably doesn't have the money.

If she messages you later just send it to the trash. Maybe someone else will buy the bag, make an unreserved listing and if she complains when it's sold just tell her simply that she never got back to you and you figured she didn't want it anymore. Boom. Done.

>>8415992
thanks, looking at that tea cup does give me some ideas actually. I'll have to look around for wonder party coords.

>>8416040
>>8416042

Sorry, managed to delete my post by mistake, I thought I'd double posted.

She just got back to me there saying sorry she has been having trouble setting up a Paypal and LM account. I'm a bit dubious about this; if she doesn't have a Lacemarket or Paypal account already, why would it be easier for her to have me list it there for her in the first place? I'm gonna give her the benefit of the doubt because I'm pretty skint and would appreciate the cash, all my other prospective buyers either bailed and have been ignoring my messages or told me they bought something else during the time payment was pending with this girl.

Can anybody recommend me a decent A-line petti that isn't CP? My VGD petti died and I need to get a new one but my last cp one ripped on me(around the bottom, didn't last very long) and I'd rather not deal with them tbh.

>>8415857
I'm ESL, sorry. I do mistakes at times.
>>8415854
My mom yes but it depends of the look. If she sees hardcore goths or punks she thinks they are junkies who have no life and no jobs and that are insane. If she see a girl in sweet lolita or fairy kei, just "halloween time" people.
>>8415859
Do it anon. Maybe you should try shironuri too.

Did the Hamburg tea party thread get deleted or something? I wanted to hear the juicy drama that happened to that clusterfuck.

>>8416058
that really sucks anon. I hope this girl comes around. setting those accounts up isn't really that hard though...I wonder what her deal is. hope you get it sorted asap, keep us all updated.

>>8416087
haha I figured, sorry if I sounded like a dick or something, was just messin with ya

>>8416101

they deleted the first one, here's a second one, hopefully something juicy gets posted before it gets inevitably pruned again >>8416049

>>8416072
I have a VGD a-line. How long did it last, just wondering?

I've heard good things about Malco Modes. 580 and the 582 are the most bought for lolita.

>>8416303
About a year for me(so not too bad for $16, a huge contrast to my CP one which lasted 2 months before it tore!).
Thanks for the suggestion.

>>8415666
Dude I'm really tired of seeing stained brand dresses being sold for regular prices on LM. It's down right nasty.

>>8416246
It's ok anon!

>>8413261
I got my OP, and I'm sending my support email

>>8413573
>>8413579
Says who hasn't seen the authenit Misty sky irl

there is no fabric like that anywhere, just replica

>>8414850
I like to get chiffon blouses in warmer colors (peach, pink, cream), preferably no peterpan collar (or very small), and wear that in front of parents.
It may look closer to ero-lolita, but then they won't be so shocked about it. Then, as they become used to it, change to high necks, peter pan collars.

>>8415653
>>8415666

I have been looking at a dress, which is half price of the original, however it has big yellow stains ALL OVER the neck (white). Visible from inside and outside, nothing that I have ever seen in a good will shop.
The only way to fix it may be using heavy loads of Oxyclean and achieve a faint yellow neck, or cutting away the whole neck and sew in a new one or shoulder straps. That was my plan, but it really feels wrong to pay around 150$ for a dress that if it was not burando, I would just throw to the trash.

I don't know if I can even offer 50~70 to the seller without being seen as scalper