/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Consider this crazy but I started putting on makeup after getting breakouts when working at McDonald's, and the layer of makeup must have acted like a barrier from the steaming oil or something because it reduced my acne.

That's all I got, sorry.

Yeah OP it 404'd, I was following it.

I'm the morning routine anon. Started doing this:

> wash with Neutrogena Oil-Free Acne Wash
> tone with Neutrogena Deep Clean Energising
> Renew Vitale anti-aging on eyelids and dark circles
> Nivea Soft moisturiser


Got huge painful breakouts and even more oil the week after. Please tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm at a loss.

>inb4 toss everything anon you're an idiot

>>8385704
The more I use the neutrogena oil free wash, the more I think it was designed to break us out due to it not dissolving away the dirt and stuff.
I'm going to try a blackhead dissolving scrub instead and see if that works better. The citrus scrub helped with my normal acne but I have huge pores... Also could be your moisturizer. I know after I use some I get a few problem areas myself.

Does anyone have a good recommendation for combination skin? There are areas of my face that are dry from high winds but some that are super oily all the time. I barely use moisturizer because I break out so bad afterwards, I need a gentle one but I haven't found the right thing... help?

>>8385765
oh my god I think you're right! Because when I rub the cotton swab with toner afterwards it still comes out so gross.
But yeah, I do have A LOT of trouble with moisturisers so we're a team here. Not trying Asian products again tho.

>>8385795
I tend to only use asian masks in winter, when my skin needs some serious therapy. I only used one though, waiting until it was a crisis and it brought my skin back to it's oily self. I think frequency has a lot to do with it, but I'm still longing for something to put on my bridge more frequently. I usually use olay regen. but only when I feel like a snake, otherwise I busy myself with taking oil out.

>>8385765

I posed this in the makeup thread but I used to have a terribly greasy face that also was incredibly flaky until I took a step back from being so harsh on it all the time. Just like over-washing my hair made it greasier daily, over-washing my face is the same.

I really love Clinique moisturizers. I would talk to a counter lady near you and get some samples. I use the Intense Moisture pot but my mom prefers the Dramatically Different one which is lighter. Clinique makes some very gentle products that still deliver.

I also put on a layer of jojoba oil on my face immediately after washing it in the evening and let that sit overnight, then wash in the morning, Clinique moisturizer, then makeup. I think my biggest mistake was not immediately replacing the oil/moisture on my face after stripping it away with harsh scrubbing. I thought oil on my face = gross butterface, but this isn't the case if you blot it and use it more intensely at night. Now my face doesn't go into oily overdrive all day.

I change face washes pretty regularly depending on what I have on hand, right now I'm using the Fresh Soy Face Cleanser, been at it for a week and I'm amazed at how moisturized and non-flaky my face has stayed, even around the edges of breakouts where I usually get gargantuan flakes. There are no physical abrasives in the cleanser but it still gently takes dry bits off anyway when I scrub in a circular motion with a clean cotton pad. I usually break out right before my period though and that was recent so my impression of this face wash is probably influenced by the fact that my skin currently looks better overall for other unrelated reasons.

TLDR i swear by clinique moisturizers

>>8385836
Thanks for the advice, I'll go in next time I'm in that area and give the oil a try.

>>8385704
You're overwashing your face and in turn it is creating too much oil to compensate. Switch to a mild cleaner like cetaphil/cerave/or an equivalent. If your face wash has suds it is too harsh, it should not strip your face of everything. Ditch the toner and anti-aging cream, that stuff is complete garbage. Use a light moisturizer during the day WITH SPF, that's how you stay looking young not anti-aging cream.

If you really insist on using toner, use diluted tea tree oil. It is an astringent and somewhat anti-bacterial.

>>8385704
Neutrogena products ALL make me break out. I quit using them all together. I have no idea why.
I have crappy troubled skin though and nothing helps it, and most products make it worse so I'm scared to ever try new things with it.

>>8385932
Also, I'm very interested in Korean cosmetics but I'm sure they'd mess up my face with the track record I have. Some people swear by them though so it has me curious, plus the packaging is so cute. But for the cost I can't risk having another product I'm going to have to give away or throw out because I can't use it.

I just got a sensitive formula facial cleanser from that Simple brand. Gonna see how that works for my skin.

I'm telling you, Korean is the way to go. Etude house has a line called Wonder pore and it will change your life. I use the Cleanser, Toner (Fresher), and Clay mask (once a week). Also Innisfree makes a Sebum controlling face powder that really helps with breakouts and shiny face

>>8385983
Does Wonder Pore shrink pores or are you talking to the people with acne?

>>8385910

The only thing is that having a lot of oil or moisturizer on your face at night makes it extra essential that you change your pillowcase often and wash them thoroughly.

But yeah until I started the oil thing, not once had I ever awoken and looked in the mirror and thought to describe my skin as "glowing" right out of bed. Now that happens pretty regularly. Feels good!

I get the oil in a bottle from Trader Joes and since I only use about 5 or 6 drops at a time, it's lasting forever.

>>8385985
pores can't shrink

Personally I think it does. Especially the Fresher. Try this test, buy just the Fresher, do your normal skincare routine and then try it, the cotton pad will come up black. Someone told me to do that and I was amazed at how dirty my face still was.

I'm a bit confused on the order to use everything. I have an oil cleanser, a tea tree/witch hazel toner, serum, moisturizer, and occasionally spot treatment, AHA exfoliation, and sleeping pack as needed. What order should I put stuff on my face for best results?

Keep it up Anon!

>>8386007
Keep it up Anon!

>>8386007
i've read that you do it from least to most thick. so it goes as it does in this image >>8386018

does anyone here lighten their skin? i naturally have very pale skin, but i have neglected to put sunblock on this season until about a week ago. my fingers are so tan compared to the rest of myself, and now i'm getting freckles. some of the products i use are supposed to lighten/brighten skin, but i don't know how effective they are. i'm upping my vitamin c intake and bought glutathione pills as well as likas papaya soap. i'm not expecting to become paler, but i want my skin to be the tone that the majority of my body and face is.

also, what do my fellow seagulls do for non-facial skincare. i pretty much just moisturize with cetaphil after showers. should i be doing something else?

i posted it in the last thread, but this is my current routine:
1. generic walmart oil cleanser
2. cold water (i need to buy a cleanser)
3. secret key snail toner
4. benton snail essence
5. skinfood tomato emulsion. i love this.
6. clinque all about eyes eye cream
7. cetaphil
8. some neutrogena facial sunblock during the day along with the tony moly panda cooling eye stick and holika holika honey sleeping pack at night

for my non daily things, i really need to organize when i do things and do them weekly or biweekly. i'm good with exfoliating twice a week, but i don't do anything else consistently.
1. etude house kissable lip exfoliating scrub
2. the faceshop black sugar honey scrub
3. the faceshop white peeling jewel face mask
4. a bunch of sheet masks
5. mizon snail eye cream (i need to buy more)
6. the faceshop blackhead out nose mask
7. tony moly pore tightening pack

>>8386007
Witchhazel is the best. Not only is it a great disinfectant but it helps with odor too.

>>8385836
The oil thing sounds... counterproductive? Sorry, I don't get it. Can you explain, please?

>>8385930
Also, thanks for the response, I suppose I'll have to swing by a cosmetics store on my way home.

At the end of the day all I wanna do is just strip my face of every drop of oil. No joke. But what you explained makes a lot of sense.

>>8386084
>>8385836

WAIT! Sorry. I get it now. Sorry for not reading properly haha. I need sleep. Thank you for the info, kind anon!

>>8386084

The idea from oil cleanser blogs I've read is that you wash off the oil & dirt that's been sitting on your face all day with your cleanser, and then replace it with clean oil. If you don't replace it then your skin can go nuts trying to make more to compensate and/or dry out. So you start working with your skin which should have some level of natural oils on it instead of against your skin and trying to keep all oil off all the time, and this results in your skin calming down and making it less irritated & producing less oil over the day on its own.

You can do a facial with it by leaning over a steamy pot of water to open your pores and massaging the oil, it can emulsify the stuff in your pores so it washes out!

Another effect is that I find using oil is more effective at getting all traces of makeup and sunscreen off gently because pretty much all cosmetics are oil-soluble, so EVERYTHING will come off and I don't have to be so rough with scrubbing my skin, which results in fewer flakes. I use grapeseed and jojoba oil together as a first step of makeup removal after cosplay, for which I use Ben Nye theatrical foundation all day long which is pretty harsh.

That's my no-citations impression of what's going on anyway?

>>8386117
>>8386100

Missed your second post, haha. Glad I sort of made sense.

Jojoba oil has just turned out to be a miracle ingredient for me in general... I went to Australia a couple years ago (during Aussie winter), and I must have been allergic to something in the air because my normally decent-to-dry (at that time) skin suddenly started almost literally falling off almost in chunks after just hours after washing it in the morning, I was miserable and uncomfortable. Someone I was travelling with offered to put some drops of jojoba oil in the same moisturizer I was already using and the issue stopped overnight. YMMV but I guess it does fantastic things for my skin chemistry in particular.

I've had the best results (after trying everything) with the Image Skincare line.

That and seeing an esthetician for about 6 of the more gentle chemical peels (over the course of several months).

>>8386084
Oil cleansing is meant to, for lack of a better term, break up the makeup, dirt, and oil that are already on your face in a gentle way while moisturizing. It's also great at breaking up blackheads. Korean cleansing oils are meant to rinse off easily and cleanly, but most people follow up with a second cleanser to get rid of any lingering makeup.

Anyone looking to get into a routine should really read http://skinandtonics.com/asian-skin-care-guide/ It's a really well-researched blog, and she does a great job explaining things. There's also an entire subreddit dedicated to the topic of Asian beauty methods (r/asianbeauty) that you can check out. Been researching a ton trying to figure out what products I should go with, and the sub has been really helpful.

>>8384481
Sorry OP, but you're kind of screwed if you work baking pizzas. I used to work in an automotive store and I was handling greasy things all day which in turn made my face a shiny greasy acne prone mess. I kept some face wipes on me to use periodically because of how shiny and oily my skin got.

Like the other anon said, you can try a protective layer of makeup, but I'm assuming the kitchen in a pizzaria is going to be hot and make you sweaty so the best you can do is up your routine to compensate. Try oil cleansing, attempt to trick your skin into producing less oil that way. Use aloe vera as your moisturizer as I've found that to work best with oil skin to keep it hydrated without making me a disgusting mess. Try and drink a lot of water when you're working too to keep yourself hydrated. You could also try pic related, whether or not you decide to wear makeup over it shouldn't matter, but it's like a protective coating on your skin to help block oils and keep the shine down. Sephora also makes a good oil-control mattifier in their "Murad" brand. Hope that helps.

So I see daily sunscreen suggested a lot and I was wondering if anyone knew of good brands for that since I'm assuming you don't just use the stuff you'd wear to the beach (which is the only sunscreen I've ever worn in my life)?

Is there a primer with effective sunscreen?

So has anyone here ever successfully gotten rid of black heads? U feel like my face just consists of blackheads and not matter what I do, they won't go away....

>>8386480
in the last thread, anons were saying Biore Sarasara Uv Aqua Rich Waterly Essence Sunscreen 50g Spf50+ Pa+++ for facial sunscreen and shiseido for the body

>>8386480
Any moisturizer that has at least spf 15. Also any spf number above 50 is just a marketing gimmick and works about the same.

Can anyone help me with my eyelids? i was fine when i had one tapered lid and one monolid looking eye (although it still had a fold). when they both became tapered, that was awesome. however, now they are both parallel folds. one eye has a normal parallel fold while the other has two folds that don't connect in the middle.

it's ugly as fuck. i want tapered eyelids. what can i do?

>>8387131
>what can i do?
Quit thinking about dumb shit like this and find something else to occupy your time

>>8387131
I have hooded eyes and on a day to day basis I just work with them how they are, but the asian double eyelid tape really works when you want to show off eyeshadow or if you have one uneven eyelid. Might work for you?
I'd suggest the fibre kind since your eyes (From the picture) don't need any extra lid space; just evening out.

>>8385939
My friend said the same thing so I steered her towards Mizon and Benton snail lines. Even though she would break out with anything they didn't and her skin is a lot nicer now.
The PH in a lot of Korean skincare lines are very agreeable with acne prone skin and don't weight it down or dehydrate you like some western lines.
Just stay away from alcohol based formulas and I'm sure you'll be okay if you're using the Simple/Cetaphil type stuff with no problem (My friend was too)

Is this just for face skin care or in general?

I used to have a lot of acne,really all over to the point that my parents thought it was a medical condition, but like half a year ago it disappeared completely on its own for some reason.

The issue is that now I have really...old looking skin. Not in the sense that it's rough, quite the contrary, but it's like there's splotches of lighter or darker colour 'under' the skin, and it makes for a really bad effect. I can never wear anything showing skin because of how insecure that makes me, is there something I can do about it? Or do I just wait until it goes away on its own with years?
I'd rather not have to cope with this for much longer.

>>8387161
i tried it once before, but maybe i bought the wrong kind. and yeah, i need to even them out because it makes one of my eyes look a little swollen? but it's been this way for a few months, so i don't think that it's swollen. thanks for the advice~

>>8387169
That's nice to know, maybe I'll try Some Korean stuff sometime then. I haven't tried the Simple stuff out yet but you have me less worried that it will bother me now so here's to hoping.

>>8386980
are they blackheads or sebaceous filaments?

>>8387173
Do you wear spf every day? If not start.

If it bothers you, you could try putting tanner on the light parts of your skin. If it's really bad you should go to a dermatologist.

>>8387193
I barely leave the house, so no, but I could start.
It's not really an off-tan kind of thing, the splotches are in shades of red, like recently healed woulds.
Only they're sub-cutaneous.

>>8387195
Might be PIH or Rosacea, there are creams for both of those. PIH is handled well with niaminicide. Not sure about Rosacea though. You'll have to figure out what the splotches are.

>>8387203
Well, the splotches are the wounds from the overwhelming acne I had until recently.
It's just that it was so radicated that it left more lasting damage than I thought.

>>8387195
i'd try taking biotin and vitamin c supplements or eating food that contains a lot of either to see if that can help any

>>8387207
oh, if they are from acne, i had the same problem before. whitening face masks helped a lot. the lemon and pearl face masks exist in just about every line. they're like $1 on amazon. i used them twice a week.

>>8387207
That's PIH it sounds like then.
Check here! http://np.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/wiki/pih

If you want to go the asian skincare route; a bunch of them help with PIH as well, especially snail lines with niaminicide

>>8387216
I'll check it out, thank you.
Those warnings on the more powerful exfoliants are making me jittery though.

>>8387222
Stay away from chemical peels, if you want one - get it done professionally.
A gradual AHA exfoliator will fade your PIH over time. The warnings for the higher level exfoliators usually apply to things you buy on prescription. Anything you can get over the counter won't destroy your skin or make it peel like the higher level stuff.
I'd suggest adding this to your routine! http://www.amazon.com/Mizon-AHA-Peeling-Serum-40ml/dp/B00F35GT0W

How do I go about covering these kind of eye wrinkles I have?
Or if there is a way to reduce them?
Every time I put in make up, it gets caught in the wrinkles looks clumpy.

>>8387466
Droped image

>>8387466
I have the same undereye wrinkles, anon. That plus my reddish undereye bags suck terribly. Even when I apply primer (which would be my first suggestion for you), my concealer (Boo-ing) gets in the cracks. I think I'll change to a different concealer.

>>8387466
This happens to me, I can never get my makeup to look flawless in the bottom because it always moves/fades/looks messier

>>8387468
Do you wear glasses or squint a lot? Also hydration could be the issue, drink more water.

As a covering thing it's tricky, the concealer and foundation clump and make them noticable anyway, I've had to get over it.

>>8387191
woah first time i heard of that, had to google it first...
i think they are blackheads tho as they are quite big

>>8387468
>>8387650

I put on foundation and concealer like I do anywhere else on my face, and then set it completely dry on my lower lid with MUFE HD powder. It doesn't budge that way, not even in the wrinkles.

This only works for undereye discoloration though, it doesn't help with the wrinkles.

>>8387650
I probably squint a lot when I smile/laugh. I don't wear glasses, not even sunglasses until like last year. I figured it was just from getting old, but that goes under squinting a lot over time.

Some people in another thread anti aging cream doesn't work? Anyone else have experience with it?

>>8387618
I KNOW. I feel like I am finally getting good at make up and that's my only problem, I can't do any kind of under eye anything cause it'll look like shit.

Anyone know of a lip moisturizer? Not a "chapstick" but like a lotion for your lips. Lip balms are more for protecting your lips from chapping in the elements but do nothing once your lips are chapped, and they really can dry your lips out.

I've put Aveeno lotion on my lips at night several times because I can't find anything else to help that doesn't just make them dry and chap worse, but I hate to be putting something on my face and mouth that isn't suppose to be used there.

>>8387466
I have these wrinkles too, plus dark rings around my eyes and visible blood veins around them. I don't think I'm dehydrated. I do have trouble sleeping at night though and my meds give me fatigue, but I've had my eyes looking like that for much longer. I make a point to just not put makeup anywhere near there so it doesn't get all gross looking.

>>8387826
I used to literally chew pieces of my lips off as a nervous habit, and my lips were destroyed when I was a teen, but I started using burts bees and it cured my lips.
I've also heard a little bit of vasoline will cure chapped or damaged lips. Be careful tho, it also removes lipstick

>>8387826
Clinique has a really good lip lotion I forget what it's called but it's fucking good. I use it everytime I go to my friends house and then cry because I'm too poor to buy fancy brand names like it.

>>8387794

Some anti-aging creams can in fact have a real visual effect as far as wrinkle reduction but it's temporary. The best cure is prevention.

>>8387207
Are you talking about hyprpigmentation? Like the red and purple splotches left over from where your acne was? Like >>8387213
said, lemon and pearl face mask is great. Also vitamin E oil, just dab it over the spots with a qtip and let it dry, it helps so much with acne scarring.

Also you said your skin looks kind of dead, it may be a nutrient thing if you don't ever go outside. Look into taking some vitamin supplements (let alone just going outside for 15-20 minutes a day. Free vitamin d)
Things to look for:
>Vitamin C
>Biotin (it's a prenatal vitamin. Can also help with hair growth, but it also breaks some people out)
>Vitamin D supplements (about 10,000ius a day)
>Vitamin E (it helps with healing)

Drink water, keep hydrated, that alone helps a lot. Also I found something to help with my skin (and digestive health) was drinking Apple Cider Vinegar each day. Look up "apple cider vinegar for acne", you drink about a tablespoon in a glass of water like twice a day and it honestly just helps with everything and it gives a little boost of energy too.

A few threads ago an anon reccomended Mizon Acence Mark-x After-Blemish Cream to help with acne scarring as well. Hope that all helps! I feel you anon, I strugled with the same shit and it took a few months to fade everything, but I'm all good now.

>>8387945
I'm poorfag too but thanks for the rec! Maybe one day I'll get an opportunity to try it.

>>8387852
Burts Bees dries my lips out, but I do use it when I need lip protection outside and I like the ingredients and flavors. I use Softlips when I need an SPF. Id like to find something better with an SPF in it though. I use a petroleum based lip balm at night when my lips get really bad but I try not to use it all the time because it will keep moisture out.

>>8384481
So for the past 'idk how long', I haven't really bothered with skincare. Sure I used facewipes and sometimes "skincare cream" but my face was never really that bad. I've never had acne in my life (I'm 19) and I guess I got lazy and stopped bothering with stuff because I must have started thinking I was 'immune'.

Now my face is somewhat bad. It's not the worst but it's definitely visible. I'm wondering if anybody could give any advice on how I can sort it out.

Photos in pic were taken shortly after I woke up (hair won't be the best). I did clean my face though. Lighting makes me look extremely pale due the fact I took the photos in the bathroom which is bright blue.

bump

>>8384481
exfoliate

bump

>>8389513
anon....you don't need to bump the thread, the catalogue is there for a reason.

>>8389505
What is your routine? Are you using a cleanser? A moisturiser? What is your diet like now? We need some more info please.

>>8389738
When I wake up I usually wipe my face with a cleanser to get rid of any oils but that is it. At night I tend to do the same thing.

Occasionally I do just thoroughly wipe my face with a towel. It's not great but it does quickly get rid of whatever. I them tend to wipe my face with a cleanser after woulds though.

My diet isn't great. I don't really eat much food (I have issues) but when I do it's usually something quick, maybe some toast. Meals are mainly pizza, sometimes pasta but there never really is much. Recently I've been cooking rice & tofu. It's not the greatest diet but expanding it is hard as fuck due to me not being able to eat most things. Drinks are usually stuff I get cheap, maybe a soda, glucose drinks, sometimes bottled water.

Even with a diet like that, I'm still thin. Idk how though.

How does cgl feel towards lush products? I've only bought their bath bombs before.

>>8386980
anyone? >__<"

>>8389757
you said you don't eat much, and you are only 19, so that would explain both being thin despite poor diet, and having worsening skin. eating well and obtaining proper vitamins is important. replace your sugary drinks with water if you can. see what vitamins your diet may lack, and consider getting supplements.

>>8389823
Good but waay overpriced, you can buy bath bombs elsewhere that are just as good and aren't 8 dollars a pop

>>8390115
...the ones I buy are like 5 to 6 dollars.

>>8390064
I'll try and get a better diet. It'd probably take a while but I'll do what I can.

As for now though, how would I stop my face from looking bad? Even if it's a temporary fix, there must be a way to just stop it looking bad while I try and improve my diet.

>>8387950
So I can't prevent it cause it's already there.
What would be the best cover up for it?

>>8390126
Yeah so the price for their bathbombs are 5-9 dollars each including tax that's 8 dollars a pop.

any tips for getting rid of blackheads? my skin is completely clear except for blackheads on my nose but they drive me crazy. exfoliating doesn't work and the nose strips don't seem effective

>>8386117
>>8386123
>>8386410
Ah! I was looking at the picture this kind anon posted >>8386018 and I've already bought a foam cleanser. I'll look into oil cleansing, maybe put together a complete routine. Thanks for your help!

>>8390349
sebaceous filaments are just a part of life. the strips don't do shit for them, and mostly just make them bigger.

no one knows how to reduce their ugly appearance. they are just part of having a face for a lot of people.

>>8389505
start moisturizing for sure! if all you're doing is cleansing, you are drying out your face which is just making your skin create more oil, acne, etc. Every morning and night you should be moisturizing! Also try to get BHA chemical exfoliant (if your skin is sensitive try an AHA, but BHA is better for acne prone and oily skin). Do not use a physical exfoliant, like a scrub with bits and pieces of fruit and shit in it, all those do is fuck up your skin more.

I think that would be a good start for you. I don't know much about acne prone and oily skin but I know those are the basics that EVERYONE needs. Also check out the skincareaddiction subreddit, it is super useful and has a lot more reliable info than people here on cgl tbh.

>>8386002
So what's the point?

If you have acne problems of any kind I really recommend Murad's acne line. Proactiv destroyed my face the one time I tried it and the lady at the spa got me hooked on Murad.

As far as moisturizers go Neutrogena's Oil Free moisturizer is my favorite and they make it for different skin types. About $12 a bottle. I have really oily skin so it's hard for me to find one that will keep my skin hydrated but not greasy.

>>8390349
Low dose benzoyl peroxide will dry them out pretty well but it will also dry the shit out of your skin around it so be careful with that stuff. Maybe twice a week.

And whatever you do DON'T get the extra strength stuff.

Help me work out a routine /cgl/, I still don't feel like I know what I'm doing.

I've been oil-cleansing using baby oil (I should probably use mineral oil, but I've been doing this for awhile and haven't noticed any breakouts from it), and just recently I got the Queen Helene Mint Julep Masque, Stridex Max Strength Pads, and Thayer's Rose-Scented Alcohol-Free Witch Hazel Toner.

So I know I should cleanse first, but then do I use BOTH the Stridex Pads and the Masque, or do I use the Pads everyday and do the Masque once or twice a week? Should I also be using the toner after?

I still need to buy a good moisturiser but I haven't found one that works for me yet, so far everything just makes me super greasy (I have combination skin).

Sorry for this post being so long, but my last problem is I've been getting dry undereyes and I can't work out why. Is that and red patches just off the sides underneath my nostrils signs of a hayfever type thing?

>>8390132
You say you just cleanse your face and dry it off. The reason why your skin is so oily is because you're not necesarily stripping it of its natural oils, but you are washing them off. You need to use a moisturiser, anon. The whole point of them is you use it after you wash your face to help replenish the moisture in your skin, so it does not work doubletime to replace the oils that are suddenly missing. My suggestion would be to pick up a moisturizer (Cetaphil and Aloe Vera gel are pretty basic ones) and start using it daily in your morning and night routines.

Another suggestion would be to do a full routine if you want your skin to look better. A full routine is cleanser, toner, and moisturiser. It's pretty much just one extra step you do before you put on your moisturizer, it helps balance your skin's pH and rejuvinates it a bit. A pretty basic one if would be witch hazel, which you can pick up at your local pharmacy or vitamin specialy stop. I reccomend the Thayer's brand because it is alcohol free so it won't be drying. A favorite of theirs in this thread are the rose petal and lavender ones. Check them out online if you'd like.

Also, like the other anon said, you need to cut the sugary drinks from your diet. Water, tea, and juice are fine, but mainly drink pleanty of water. Your acne could honeslty just be a result of you drinking too much soda. Also idk what exactly is wrong that you are not eating, but you NEED to correct your diet. There is no "quick fix" overnight miracle cure for acne. It's a balancing act, and that includes correcting bad habbits. You seem to eat a lot of pasta and pizza, food with a lot of carbohydrates and gluten. Gluten can also be a contributing factor to sudden breakouts. Start adding fruits and veggies to what you eat. I'm guessing you are a vegitarian because you mentioned tofu, which is cool. But a thing to look out for being vegitarian or vegan is getting enough nutrients. Start taking supplements.

>>8384481
how many times a day should you wash your face?
is it really 2 or is that too much? it seems like people are either saying 2 or not even once a day and i'm not sure what works for me yet but i'm worried about damaging my skin from washing it too much

I've heard Fan Bingbing uses 2 face sheets a day, I've only been using like 2-3 a week.
Anyone know good places to buy reputable, bulk face sheets?

>>8393584
I use Amazon. They come out to about 1usd each or maybe $1.50 including shipping. I, too, read that and have been using them daily instead of twice a week. I have also made my bf do it. It's only been a week, and our skin is noticeably much brighter. It's fucking amazing. It's not as good as right after a facial, but my skin looks way better already. My bf has noticed as well

Oh, and I forgot to ask about epilators.

Any recommendations? My old one broke after 5 years. The problem was that I could only use them on my armpits. The hair on my legs and arms are maybe too thin and give me ingrown hairs. Ive tried nair and waxing, but nair makes me bleed instantly while waxing always misses a shit ton.

Are any epilators better for fine hair?

>>8393529
Usually it's twice, once in the morning to prep yourself for the day and get those dead layers of skin that can pop up over night, and once at night to get all the gunk and makeup from the day off.
Now, some people have super sensitive skin and can only wash it once a day, but the norm is pretty much twice. As long as you don't use super stripping products that wreck your skin you're fine.

>>8393584
She looks pretty because of copious amounts of very obvious plastic surgery, not face masks. I wish people would stop shilling that nobody everywhere.

>>8386018
Is this shit really what you women go through every morning?

>>8395375
no, just koreaboos

>>8394466
I'd like to know this too, hair removal cream destroys my skin and I don't like shaving, and I can't wax. I've never epilated before but want to try it, but I do have fine hair.

>>8395375
No, because that's an evening routine. You'd think "sleeping pack" would be indicative of that.

Regardless, most of those are optional. Not everybody double cleanses,not everybody uses every possibly moisturizing step, and most people definitely don't use sheet masks daily.

>>8393529
Depends on what sort of cleanser you use. You should probably not be using a foaming cleanser twice a day, that'd probably be rather stripping. Oil cleansing would be absolutely fine twice a day, however, or a particularly hydrating cleanser. I'd suggest just wiping your face down with a wet cotton round, or a microfiber cloth in the morning rather than washing.

>>8395464
>No, because that's an evening routine. You'd think "sleeping pack" would be indicative of that.
I didn't read the whole thing.

>>8395375
It honestly doesn't take very long, though. I only lose about 5 minutes worth of shit posting. Plus, when I wear face masks, I can take care of my skin AND shitpost.

Sebaceous Filaments.
Is there ANY goddamn way to get rid of them?
Ever since I started using birth control pills my skin's turned to better. I only break out if I eat loads of junk or with suuuuper stress.
BUT.
THESE FUCKERS. I have some on my nose, on my cheeks right under my eyes and on my chin.
Help.

>>8395916
no

>>8384481
Cross-posting from >>8395920.

Does anyone here have any good or bad experiences with accutane? I've maybe seen one or two seagulls discuss their treatments in the past but I vaguely remember the details.

>>8395930
I finished a dose a month ago, and it almost completely cleared my face, but my back and shoulders are still dodgy. I was super lucky and had almost no side affects aside from dry skin, but it was nothing that lotion and lipbalm wouldn't cure. The one thing I did have a problem with was muscle pain but my job is very physical so went against the doctor's advice. It actually fixed my hair so I went from having to wash it once a day to once a week, although it's gone back to normal now which I'm really disappointed about.

The advice I would give is to make sure you drink lots of water, apply lip balm regularly and lotion twice a day and don't over exercise.

PSA:
To everyone trying new skincare routines give your face a few weeks to adjust to the new products. Your face WILL get worse before it gets better. That's just how it works. Clearly some people aren't aware.

>>8396041
>Your face WILL get worse before it gets better
this is a myth. it might, but it might not. you should test out products one at a time.

>>8393529
Depends on your skin type. Once a day if you have dry skin, twice if you have oily skin or if you happen to sweat a lot over night. If your skin is dry then just splash a little water on your face in the morning and put your moisturizer on. Save the cleansing wash for night to remove makeup, sunscreen, etc.

Eat more avocados

>>8395921
It has to be possible - there are girls my age who have none. Clearly they're doing something right and I dont just mean genetics. Because even if it's genetics, something about them are saying "produce more of such&such oil!! This will dissolve the filaments".

>>8386018
Ive been adding the oil cleanser to my routine because I wear makeup more now, but the problem is I need to use my regular cleanser twice to get rid of all the oil - is this too much? I don't want to overexhaust my skin or anything.

Also, having hard time finding a hydrocolloid bandage. I went to Chemist Warehouse and asked the assistant pharmacist woman where they stocked any. She asked me "what for" and said it works on draining pimples apparently. She said that's not what they're for, they don't work for pimples and walked me over to those Neutrogena pimple stickers. Are they the same thing?

>was still curious about the hydrocolloids but never could find any

>>8396838
we're just cursed m8

>>8396054
It's not a myth with actives-- keep that in mind. BHAs and Tretinoin especially.

>>8395916
>>8396838
It's genetic. You can make them appear less visible (aka, be less dark) with BHAs or other topicals, but they will not physically decrease in size.

>>8396867
They're generally listed as "blister bandages", instead of hydrocolloid.

>>8387852
I'm the same way anon, I just bite and peel the skin off... It gets so bad when I'm stressed/nervous that i'll chew until they bleed.
It's pretty gross, I should probably try to take better care of them other than just Blistex.

I bought Zapzyt max strength today and it brought one of my cystic zits to a head in a matter of hours. I do have to apply it carefully though since it seems to be really drying. But for precise spot treatment I'm already impressed.

>>8396867
They are the same thing, the "pimple stickers" are just precut into a smaller size for your zits. But it's so much cheaper on your wallet to just get the "blister" bandaids and cut them up. I go to Target and get mine there, they sell their own brand of "hydrocolloid bandages" for much cheaper than other brands, and they work just as good. I believe they are about the size of the 3M ones and you get 6 in a box.

>>8395930
anon, I answered you in the thread you just linked to. Please read my experience there.

>>8396924
>>8397010
>blister bandages
Thank you!!

>>8396953
I got Palmers Dark Chocolate & Cherry balm recently, and because it's the first balm that convinced me in smells like real Cherry Ripe candy bars, I stopped chewing my lips just so I can smell it on my face for longer...

It's making my lips much more softer than any of my other balms I tried too. When I finish this tube I'll try Burt's Bees to compare because their pseudo-long heritage brand intrigued me.

Super total skincare noob,
what is the skin routine i have to choose? My skin is dry on the cheeks (and body) but greasy on nose, chin and forehead, occasionally small pimples or blackheads, very sensible and prone to allergies. But my skin looks ok, not much flaws other than eye circles and occasional skin allergy in my body. Skintone is very pale. I don't have loads of money to spend for nickel free items, i tried them but they don't do much or some are greasy as fuck.
I live in Europe, so no US brands. Maybe genuine korean brands i can buy online would be ok and someone said to me they are gentle with skin.
>plz no night masks suggestion i get pissed to have something in my skin while i sleep
Just saying, i'm 24 but no sign of facial expression wrinkles yet. In my family runs good skin genes but i have to prevent them with a cream even if they aren't there? I never get tan so this helps to avoid early aging.

>>8390115
What about their skincare stuff? Any brand you'd recommend for finding dupes of those?

How do I lighten my crotch, legs and armpits?
When I was younger I had some pox that I scratched at a lot and it's left these PIH-like marks on my calves, crotch and upper thighs.
I'd like to get rid of that and perhaps lighten my armpits, knees and the folds of my crotch (where underwear elastic rubs against your leg) since its summer.
I tried looking on plebbit but most of the responses these ranged from 'skin lightening is raycis' to 'but bb ur vagina is butiful muh society beauty standards etc'. So I'm asking you guys.

Any tricks for dealing with the top layer of skin peeling from retinol usage?

I've been using it for about a year, and I still occasionally get peeling. It really fucks me up, because it prevents me from wearing any makeup.

>>8401346
likas papaya soap. don't get it in/on your vagina, though. it's really drying and will definitely fuck the PH balance down there.

>>8401364
Where can I get it? I'm a yuropoor. Is kojie-San okay?

I know sun screen is super important if you don't want to look dry as fuck. But I'm white as the whitest cheese with ugly red spots an areas. It takes so many days of your regular sun exposure (not sunbathing) for any sort of tan to show up. And I need that tan so I look less disgustingly red.

>>8395916
biore strips! rips the fuckers right out. its just oil under the skin, so any pore stripping cleanser and exfoliation will work. available at any drugstore for $5 a box.

>>8401366
don't bother. i went through two bars in a month. it just slowly sheds the topmost layers of skin a little, doesn't really lighten up dark marks.

>be in health food store
>see tinted cinnamon lip balm
>heck yeah i love the smell of cinnamon!
>take home, try it
>dries and burns the ever-loving fuck out of my lips

Maybe they should rename it as a exfoliating treatment than a daily chapstick.

>>8403641
glycolic acid works for whitening marks/scars. 5-10% is decent if you're scared, but 40-60% is the type of peel that dermatologists use, and works 5x faster for the same price. but be careful, it takes a huge layer of dead cells off within 3 days, so theres definitely a chance that it could cause an acid burn if not neutralized properly. I tested it out on a 7 year old mark in the back of my leg for 2 days first before trying it on my face, and it was peeled smooth by the week. though, it does look much lighter than your upper skin layers, which have been tanning over years.

>>8404519
So where could I obtain such a thing? I don't think it's legal to sell 40-60% glycolic acid outside of spas in Europe

>>8393584
Watch innisfree for their 5+5 or 10+10 sales. Comes down to 75 cents.

>>8384481
I have bad dark circles with two lil fine lines help me gulls i wanna be kawaii.
Also I have very tiny blackeads on my nose. Cannot squeeze those fuckers out. Should i steam and apply pore strips?

>>8395464
Dont be silly anon no one does all ten steps everydah. It would be doing wayyy too much to your skin all at once.

Look up Saw Palmetto (Standardized) for hormonal acne.

www.acne.org/saw-palmetto-reviews-973/

I'm trying it. I'm at my wits end. I refuse to take the man-made hormones/chemicals... I'm turning 30 next year and I can't wake up one day without a damn painful red spot (if I'm lucky) and usually have to live with a whole group of them.

If this doesn't work, I'm trying Maca root.

Disclaimer: Don't take it unless you are pretty sure you have androgen issues (cystic acne on your jawline that won't go away, has been treated with spironolactone before), dark hairs on chin and face) because although it won't hurt you, I hear it can cause some major breakouts if your hormones are normal.

>>8404858
>muh chemicals
>muh natural is always better
the acne is just retard tax

In the 50s or older they believed that fucking RADIUM did wonders to your skin. Women would apply cream with freaking RADIUM on their skin i saw a vintage commercial about this archived somewhere but jfc radium man..

>>8404880
>50s
Victorian era

>>8404887
oh and around the same time they thought asbestos was a perfectly safe thing to put in furniture and wall paint, so y'know...

>>8404887
>Victorian era
no, it was during the 20s and on actually.
(i have a morbid fascination with this actually)
look up radium girls. shit is fucked.

>>8404858
Anon....as a fellow adult who "refused to take manmade chemicals" you need to get over that stigma. If you are 30 and still experiencing adult acne, then the issue you're having isn't something that's easily identifiable. Adult acne can be caused by a multitude of factors, spanning from dairy and gluten intake, lack of certain nutrients due to a modern diet, your immune system, hormonal imbalence, to just having shitty genes. I eventually caved since no natural or herbal remedies were working, saw a dermatologist, and started a treatment that actually worked. Sometimes you luck out with natural stuff, but if it has been years and nothing you are doing seems to be working, then suck it up and seek outside help.

I hope to god you're not an anti-vaxer as well.

>>8404866
>>8404939

Didn't say "natural" was better at all. I CHOOSE to not try accutane, spironolactone, YAZ, etc for personal yet objective reasons.

I work in drug discovery, I know what goes into it (and what doesn't). I know WHY they are sold, and I know what they need and don't need to keep them there. I'd rather fuck around with plant juice than some of that wacky almost-bioidentical-but-not-because-we-want-to-patent-it hormonal roulette. (Ever wonder why they don't put you on bio-identical estrogen for BC? Because it can't be patented)
http://www.healthline.com/health-blogs/hold-that-pause/premarin-premro-bioidentical-hormones

Just as much research and skepticism goes into my looking at naturally sourced compounds vs man-made (for those semantics-anons: using chemistry to make new compounds). Especially if the side effects of one choice is less severe or common than the other (I have high clotting factors, hormonal birth control would be a bad choice due to risk of blood clots).

I already have demonstrated my low progesterone, which is a side effect of estrogen dominance (or cause, depending) and based on research and experience, which leads to androgen imbalance. It may or may not be cause by the xenoestrogens in my diet/exposure**, but I try to limit them as much as possible, so the next step is to try to help my body rebalance, rather than throwing another hormone into the fray. Saw Palmetto seems to enable the body to choose to reduce DHT, which is one of the androgens (that's what is does in men, which there is more research on).

Estrogen triggers Leutenizing hormone release, which is counter-regulated by DHT... so more estrogen means more LH, which makes your body make more DHT to stop the LH.

Anyway, I thought the info could help someone also in similar situations, since it's pretty easy to try for yourself and low-risk (compared to 60% glycolic acid peels up thread).

>>8405077

Not even mad about making me reply, I get that not everyone is into understanding the (available) information behind the medications they take, so hopefully the pitiful 2000 character limit got something across.

**Xenoestrogens and estrogenic compounds are littered in a USA diet. Years ago this was "paranoia", but with BPA, soy, Phthalates, birth control compounds pissed into the water supply, it is almost ubiquitous.

>>8405081
>>8405077

Hi! I'm >>8385704
I tested a new skincare regimen like this:

>oil cleanse with Johnson's baby oil (I can't afford anything imported ATM)
>wash with green tea foam cleanser for oily skin
>Nivea soft for oily skin (it has a matte effect, I really like it)
> Renew anti-aging on dark circles I know anon >>8385930 said it was rubbish but it worked wonders on my lower lids

It worked pretty well on the first week, but now I'm getting even more breakouts in places I've never had before, not just on my cheeks anymore.I can't put my finger just what I'm doing wrong.

>>8405290
try skipping the baby oil

>>8404820
for dark circles the only things that help are sleep, water, and a vitamin C serum. Some people are just stuck with them tho.

For blackheads, I think AHA chemical exfoliants help, but I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly. I do know pore strips don't really help in the long run.

>>8405290
Since you started a new skincare regimen your skin is going to break out for a couples of weeks before it gets better.

>>8405290
Did you switch to multiple new products all at the same time?

If you did, we have no idea which one made you break out. Dig out your old stuff, use just one of the items for a few weeks, and see if your skin still breaks out. When that's not the culprit, add the next one. Repeat.

Keep in mind that baby oil is mineral oil plus additives like fragrance. If you react badly to the baby oil, try wood oil (plain mineral without fragrance, super cheap) or olive oil.

>>8390135
I literally just looked on Lush's USA site and none of their bath bombs are over 7 dollars

>>8390135
Same anon as above but also you can get two baths out of them too just split em in half lol

Anybody have a Clarisonic? It's been 3 months since I got my Mia, and I was wondering if I really need to change the brush head since they recommend changing the head every 3 months. IMO, it looks fine, and I clean it with baby shampoo and warm water every few days.

>>8404842
There are most definitely people who do all of those steps. It's hardly taxing on your skin as most of those steps are supposed to be soothing and hydrating, which is the main focus of asian beauty skincare routines.

>>8406712
Soothing and hydrating are the focus of all skincare routines ever except for ones used to treat teenager acne explosions. There is such a thing as too much when it comes to moisturising.

>>8406722
Not necessarily. Western skincare routines tend to be more drying, focusing on getting rid of acne and anti-wrinkle. I'm talking about the way skincare in those areas is commonly seen and advertised.

Asian skincare has a way bigger focus on moisturizing and hydrating, which shows in the multiple types of hydrating products (milks, serums, essences, emulsions, lotions, etc..)

Regardless, there isn't really too much. Nothing neccesarily bad can come from it, if none of the products break one out.

>>8401359
Raising this question from the dead. I just started tretinoin treatment and it's making my skin peel like crazy. The directions say this is normal, but what can I do to keep my skin from tightening and peeling like this? I'm using tretinoin and a benzoyl peroxide (sp?) treatment once a day for cystic acne. I have skin on the drier side, so I'm using this moisturizer, but it's not helping with the chemical irritation as much as it does with dry skin from cold weather or wind.

I know seagulls have done this kind of treatment before. What does /cgl/ recommend to stop the peeling?

>>8406712
Yeah, I do pretty much all the steps. My average night has 8 steps. Sometimes 7 but up to 10

>>8406561
I have one. I just change it when the heads start looking a bit ratty/dingy. It does work out to about 4 months at twice a day useage, but obviously longer if you use it less often. The heads are expensive but they have generic ones that work just as well for like 3 bucks on ebay so if you want to be proactive and change more often, that's an option too.

>>8406738
Anti-wrinkle products themselves are made to moisturise the shit out of your skin unless it's stuff like Retin A, since that's the most important thing in skincare to begin with. People who say Asian skincare > Western skincare have no clue what they're talking about and it's a really easy way to spot the weeaboo. Neither is better or worse, nor is Western skincare in any way harsher. Acne products are the ones most advertised because they tend to sell the best. The reason they sell so well is because people with acne are teenagers, desperate, or both. The West doesn't have much of a skincare culture aside from simple maintenance, sure, but that does NOT mean Western products are inferior. The focus is mainly quality over quantity, and sadly people tend to equate quality with price. People just don't use them as often as they should because there is less of a focus on skincare and more on makeup.
So saying that Asian skincare has a bigger focus on hydrating is untrue, as it has a bigger role in their society in general, which means people are gonna spend more on it and use more of it.

The difference is easiest to spot in the type of products available on both markets. We have way, way more '3 in 1' products whereas Asians tend to have a single product for everything. That's really the main difference. What suits you more is up to you, but neither is better or worse.

>>8399069
I don't know about dupes, but I have used LUSH products pretty extensively. While some of them did not measure up to me expectations (though still worked great) there are a few i absolutely love. The fresh pharmacy soap works wonders on my combination skin and doesn't strip the moisture from my skin. Their coal black soap is a favorite of my bf's, but his skin is more rugged than mine is and it's too rough for every day use for me. The skindrink facial lotion is another favorite, along with the dark angels scrub.
As with anything else, these are my personal experiences. I have absolutely had stuff from there that did not work for me at all and worked amazing for others. It is all about testing what works for you. While they are expensive sometimes, you can get samples of anything you like and get pieces of soap cut (they cut everything by weight like a deli) for $2 and up.

I need help, /cgl/.

So for the past few years I've had some pretty unfortunate skin on my back/arms. They break out a lot, and even without picking they leave some sort of scarring or pigmentation.

I don't break out so bad these days (still fairly often, but mostly on my upper arms rather than my back) but I'm pretty damn secure about the pigmentation it's left. It's given my back a "mottled" sort of appearance. Is there any way I can reduce this pigmentation, or if nothing else, calm the breakouts I get on my back? I hate being insecure about my back....

Also, I seem to have chicken skin on my upper arms, and while I realise this probably isn't something I can do much about, would it be contributing to my breakouts?

>>8387852
this might sound really simple but carmax...omg it healed me. I tried using EOS and it just dried my lips out as well as the Nivea chapsticks, and I also found that Vaseline made the skin on my lips so soft that the skin would peel off on its own...but carmax seemed to heal and moisturize I love it. Plus bonus of lots of different flavors cheap as hell.

>>8390132
Anything you can do to improve your diet is great! Definitely don't put it off just because you feel like you have to go all or nothing. I used to have a horrible diet and thought it was okay because I was still stick thin, but I felt so much better in general and had better skin after making a few minor fixes. The two things that really made the biggest difference for me were cutting out soda and adding some veggies. Just take it one step at a time, anything at all will be a good change.

>>8403639
Just adding to this, pore strips are great if you use them for special occasions where you want them gone. It's better not to use it as a regular skin care routine because they can enlarge your pores with excessive use, making the filaments look even worse over time!

But anon is right, they will definitely help make your nose and chin look better, if only temporarily. :)

Fix me please

i have that exactly, two lines and almost three.
ive heard collagen cream works? or that snail stuff? gel? people have been talking about here.
>>8387650
i used to squint a lot when i was little due to my family thinking i didnt need glasses.
>>8407877
ive been wanting to try that, other than it not helping.. how does it feel?

pic related is what im trying out and i might stay with it because i love it so much.

>>8407995
asian skin care is still way ahead of us, using products we've never heard of, using things we never thought to use and more.

you're still missing a lot

>>8410987
We don't know what you need help with just by posting a picture..
>>8410069
>new ita thread
Carmex is the shit. Eos is overpriced, and popular. I always feel like I would need to re apply it. I'm using Blistex right now, which is pretty okay.
>>8408752
Chicken skin apparently is caused by your skin making too much protein or something of the sort? I read somewhere that exfoliating will help. Also when you shower, make sure to wash your body last rather than your hair and rinse with lukewarm/cold water.
I have the same sort of scars and am considering buying pic related. Apparently its really good.

How to get rid of old light acne scarring/give my face a more brighter/lively look.

>>8407877
From experience, your first step would be to stop using the benzoyl peroxide treatment with your tretinoin treatment. That's two acids you're putting on your skin with the intention to dry it out to help treat your acne. Also, you said you have dry skin so that makes it twice as bad. For lotion, try out Aloe Vera gel, since it's soothing on top of moisturizing. I would also reccomend pic related to use as a night cream, it helped me immensely with my peeling and dry patches (helps with eczema as well). I use this with my morning routine and night routine since my skin was so dry, and used aloe vera as my go to moisturizer during the day.

>>8411733
vitamin e oil, drinking lots of water, and a good toner.

>>8411079
Such as? And please don't list gimmick products.

>>8411090
I have scars where I had glass puncture my skin and my father had knee replacement surgery and we've both used this stuff. It's a dream and helps a great deal.

It won't get rid of the scars 100%, of course, but it really helps with evening out skin tone and any sort of puffiness you might have.

>>8411762
thank you.
i have vitamin e gel things that you swallow. can i cut off the top and squirt them on my face?

>>8411762
also what's a good toner? sorry

>>8389948
If they're actual blackheads you should be able to buy a loop and squeeze them out. If they're sebacious filaments then leave them alone.

>>8411794
Yea, that's what I do. Works well for me.

>>8385704

You're drying your skin out. Stop using acne products.

What do you use to apply essence, emulsions, moisturizer, and sunscreen? It takes FOREVER to pat on so I always rub it in and I feel like im giving myself a million wrinkles, but its just frustrating to gently pat

>>8411798
I'm on medication right now so I have to use something light, so I've been using Thayer's Witch Hazel because it's alcohol free. I like pic related because anons were all reccomending it in here, and it makes my skin feel nice.

>>8386462
Thanks, anon, this actually helps a lot. I've started using oil-based makeup removers lately and that helps. I'll stop by Sephora tomorrow and see if I can't pick up a jar and try that goo out. I already try and drink a looooot of water on the clock; I learned that lesson about two weeks in. (Not just because of my skin, but because the oven and the climate make my store so freakin' HOT I feel like I'm about to pass out during rush sometimes.) I'm gonna keep my moisturizing routine because I actually have a prescription for some from my dermatologist.

Been using this stuff a few times a week and I feel so pretty! It really helps with the blackheads and it's super inexpensive. Careful around your hairline and your eyebrows. It can also be a bit painful to peel off but it's well worth it.

>>8412829
where can i buy this??

>>8413181
iHerb stocks it, and ships to pretty much everywhere. If you're a first time customer, you can get up to 10 bucks off your final order if you use someone's promo code.

I'm in China right now, and I've been picking up some awesome stuff! I got some bamboo mask and it was amazing, and pic related is pretty awesome too.
I haven't had a good nights sleep in almost a week from all the traveling and jet lag, but my undereyes aren't bad at all (sag wise at least, still working on the dark circles) because of Etude House moistful collagen.
I'm open to recommendations for anything that works better with heat (my makeup is melting off) or something for dark circles.

>>8413181
I get mine from my local Vitamin Shoppe, but I live in the US so idk if you're stateside or UK? Like that other anon said, you can buy it online from iHerb, or Thayer's website. They also have a Lavender one which I've heard people like, and the Peach one seems interesting.

i ordered this
http://cosmetic-love.com/tonymoly-pandas-dream-white-sleeping-pack-50g.html
but now i see this contains ''tar color''
my friend told me this could cause breast cancer or something lol and now i'm not really sure if i should use this anymore? anyone have any idea?

>>8404866

Natural isn't always better. However, with the current way the FDA is run (shit gets pushed through, minimal testing for many things, no testing at all for some "supplements", profits over safety), it's a good idea to be cautious of industrial chemicals in your cosmetics. Stop being edgy.

>>8404880

Like this. I wonder what the modern radium is. Sodium laurel sulfate, probably. Shit gives me canker sores. Who the fuck puts a foaming agent that is a known skin irritant in TOOTHPASTE. Oh, wait, ALL THE MAJOR COMPANIES. Colgate and crest are the only ones most stores carry, too. I'm just using baking soda for now.

>date tomorrow
>out shopping, go in restroom, look in mirror
>giant red blotch of a coming megazit apocolypse on cheek
>fuckshit
>currently cleansed, put on stridex red box, and some witch hazel
>holding hot/warm teacup to face (not too hot) to reduce swelling

Also, what do you do when it's sweaty as balls out? I break out every summer. I even have chestne now from the constant sweat. Hot plus humid plus can't turn on the air. I'm gonna try baby powder for my chest. Boob sweat is real, man. But I can't be rinsing my face with cold water every half hour. I don't even want to wear my rice bran oil at night because between the sweat and the oil it's a greasy mess.

What do you guys use on your undereyes??

What's a good sunscreen for eyes that isn't fucking horrible?

I'm white so my eyes aging is one of my biggest concerns. I have very verrry fine lines already (age: 24) and I want to do everything I can to keep them that way!

Sheet masks don't cover undereyes??? I've been just pulling them up a bit but I think the ones I have are too harsh for that skin.
what do for intense moisture besides slap on eye cream and moisturizer 5 times a day (which i already do i'm paranoid)

>>8414025
>SLS
It's safe unless you're allergic to it. I bet you think dihydrogen monoxide is dangerous because they put it in detergents as well.
>MUH CORPORASHUNS
There is such a thing as the EU regulations (known for being very strict), and they allow both Colgate and Crest. And SLS for that matter. But nowadays with the internet available to everyone, people would rather believe a paranoid scaremongering mummy blog over a board of professionals.
>>8413999
It won't give you breast cancer.

>>8414135
Hey anon! I have the same problem but I'm younger and had bad wrinkles already. I already posted but honestly Etude House moistful collagen is a gift from mana. It started making a difference in just a few days. About two weeks I got it, I left for my trip. I haven't had a good nights sleep in maybe eight days, but my undereyes are looking better than they were before I started using it. Unfortunately I still have some serious dark circles, but hopefully I can track down something for them too.
Sorry for rambling.

How do I go about wearing make up when I have a big pimple?

I have this holy trinity of pimples in my right cheek and I need to wear make up all day for a cosplay soon. Is the usual foundation I always use, but I am afraid I am gonna make it worse if I leave it on that long

>>8414187
>It's safe

It gives me canker sores. I don't see how that is safe.

>everyone who questions barely-tested chemicals being inserted in everything for no reason must be scientifically illiterate

You're a dumbass. Get fucked.

>they allow colgate and crest

Did it ever occur to you that one brand can have multiple products for different regions? No? Because you are an imbecile.

What products should I use for combination skin with bad, bad active acne? I notice the acne seems to fixate on my cheeks/jawbone, where I put my face on the pillow each night. So I try to change my pillow case frequently but the other angle to this is that I'm a face picker. Trying to quit that habit...

Tl;dr;

Combination skin // face picker//acne

What products to use?

>>8417873
STOP FACE-PICKING. Stop it stop it stop it stop it. Figure out when you pick (tired? stressed? when you look in the mirror?) and take steps to prevent yourself picking (fiddle-toys, cutting your nails really short, telling yourself you're going to gently rub the damage with your fingertip instead). You can do it and it will get better but you will need to use your willpower.

Consider trying https://pocketderm.com/ if it's available in your area. Try applying benzyl peroxide.

Not exactly facial ski but still skin, but:

Anyone else has problems with stretch marks? For some odd reason I'm getting a ton on my inner thighs, hips, and breasts even though I'm done with puberty and have remained the same weight as before? I think it's my from BC implant, but does anyone have products to recommend for fading? They make me really self conscious when I'm naked.

>>8415439
>It gives me canker sores
Good thing you can speak for the entire world's population!
>Did it ever occur to you that one brand can have multiple products for different regions? No? Because you are an imbecile.
>Oh no, I've no arguments left... I know! I'll just resort to name calling!
There is such a thing as comparing the ingredients of the same product from two different regions, you eejit.

>>8417873
>face picker

iktf.

for me, i have added nice skincare products gradually to my routine. i try to get that shit on my face early in the day, including sunscreen and BB cream. then i am scared to pick because i will mess up my nice and costly (for me) layer of sun protection.

it does not always work but it helps to try to refocus obsessive habits into constructive ones...

also, there is some split in the psychology community over whether to classify skin picking as an impulse control disorder, an OCD type of thing, or an addiction. this classification is important because different reasons for picking will need different treatments. i have read that those who have a more OCD style of picking respond well to SSRIs (antidepressants), but for those in whom it is more like an addiction SSRIs may exacerbate the issue.

but in both types, picking is likely a way to manage stress. try learning some stress reduction techniques and stay away from a mirror if you are worried about anything, have something important you are dreading, etc.

>>8417873
sorry, for specific products:

moisturizer and sunscreen, maybe even BB cream. i am less likely to pick when i have put this shit on my face. the effect is psychological so as long as you use reputable products the specifics may not matter.

i am also trying Vitamin E oil (nonsynthetic!!) for the hyperpigmentation but it is too soon for results.

>>8386410
Thanks for that link anon, amazingly helpful

What are some decent dollar store products for having a clean face when you're on an extreme budget?

>>8423308
They have this charcoal mask at the one near me (vegas) and its nice. Not strong so you could probably get away with using it everyday

>>8414455
Thanks a ton anon, that sounds great and i'm gonna buy it as soon as I can afford.

Premature aging solidarity!

What do you guys use for exfoliating your body?
I have very dry skin on my legs and they get itchy and I scratch to the point where I break skin.
I normally just try to exfoliate with a loofa and then I moisturize with coconut oil.

I recall someone talking about some Korean rags or something that are great for dealing with dead skin.

>>8424496
I actually use one of those exfoliation rags but I have no idea how often and how hard I should be using it. Is there a point where I can cause more damage than good?

>>8424527
Can you tell me what they're called so I can buy one pls.
I'm so done with my disgusting leg skin man.

>>8424533
italy towels? and lots of people seem to like the japanese salux nylon towels, too.

>>8424542
Yes thank you I love you

not skincare, but what products do you guys recommend for teeth whitening? I already use a whitening toothpaste, but what kinds of strips/gels work best?

I've used some strips in the past and I got those little white marks on my teeth.

>>8424791
i use Crest 3D toothpaste which focuses on surface stains, since i drink coffee. i do not want to try anything stronger or with actual bleaching because my enamel is more important than my vanity.

>>8424791
gonna hop in on this conversation but >>8425224
is Crest 3D toothpaste pretty good for surface stains? I drink tea everyday and I noticed since starting, my teeth have been getting more yellow. I started adding a little baking soda to my toothpaste once a week to help, but I've heard good things about that toothpaste as long as you use it every day?

Also some anon in here reccomended those 3D whitening strips once?

>>8423308
Honestly, just buy whatever product in bulk since it will last you longer. I was on a budget, so I just splurged and got that big pump of Cetaphil wash (standard size I guess) and it lasted me over half a year. Same with my moisturizer, and I get about 4-5 months out of my toner.

>>8417873
Advice: Stop picking your fucking skin. Go out and get some hydrocolloid bandages to cut up, and when you have one that comes to a head, plop one over it and then you won't be able to pick at it. It'll reduce your scarring and help train you to stop touching active zits, at the cost of looking like a dumbass with some bandaids on your face but whatever. It's a tradeoff.

>>8404672
amazon & ebay has it everywhere for under $20 a bottle

I really like Mizon's Snail Recovery Cream, or rather, the idea of it.

would rubbing pure snail secretions onto my face work?

>>8417873

Try to avoid picking them and apply a sensitive skin toner 2x daily. It seems to keep my acne under check.

So, I'm pregnant, and my skin has been really dry and rough feeling throughout the pregnancy. At first I thought it was a winter thing, but it still feels awful, and I can just forget about putting any sort of makeup on it. I've tried coconut oil and cocoa butter to no effect.

Anyone have any solutions? I used to have such smooth skin, it's driving me nuts, and I'm starting to worry it will stay this way after the pregnancy's done.

>>8431765
i have had success on my dry, flakey patches with vitamin E oil. nonsynthetic and with no fillers, it is really thick and a little goes a long way. some people mix it with a regular moisturizer, but i just pat a bit directly onto problem areas.

What would be more cost-effective, buying the 90 pack Stridex pads or just getting 30ml of 2% salicylic acid?
They're both around the £9/£10 mark but I'm not sure which will last longer.

>>8431697
I use Skin79's snail BB cream, and honestly, my face does look a lot more evenly toned.

I have a problem that I haven't been able to find a solution to. After shaving, for the next 1-2 days, my skin is extremely oily.

Any ideas on how to deal with this?

>>8435006
are you moisturizing or using any anti-inflammatory treatment after a shave?

oiliness can sometimes result from your skin overproducing oils to battle dehydration or irritation.

Remember how TonyMoly's pocket bunny face mist doesn't spray right? I just finished off my bottle so I put Thayer's in it and it suddenly works much better. I think that maybe the original fluid was too thick or something.

>>8386145
Image has really good reviews, but I personally don't like it. It's too harsh for me even though I have resilient skin. Peels are awesome, I use a 40% lactic acid every few weeks to keep the freckles at bay. (Do your research and always test patch before you even think about attempting an at home peel. Seriously.)

I'm thinking of trying 40% lactic on my body too because I've faded most of my face freckles but my body still has a lot and it looks weird. I did a 15% TCA once on my body but the peeling on that is much more literal and not worth it to me.

>>8385836
For any gulls on a budget who are interested, I've been using Rite Aid Renewal mild facial soap, which I guess is their version of Clinique's mild liquid facial soap, and it's great. I think I paid about $8 USD for it, I picked it up on a whim about a month ago and my face has been very happy with it.

I'll probably give Clinique's a go once I run out of this stuff.

>>8434895
Nice! I just caved and actually bought a tub of snail cream, glad to hear that it actually works!

>>8435017
I've used aloe, witch hazel, non-alcoholic aftershaves, and alcoholic aftershaves. It's the same with all of them.

>>8385930
there's no scientific evidence to back up the claim of compensatory oil production that I have found, but if you have any, that would be nice. I understand there is a lot of anecdotal evidence.
However, using a harsh, soapy (alkaline) cleanser can def compromise your skin's barriers against bacteria and also moisture loss, so using gentle and slightly acidic cleansers is a good idea.
Note also that tea-tree oil is also kinda harsh and is not miscible with water, so should be diluted in alcohol (maybe oil instead? Idk if it would work)
Gentle toners are the ones that contain humectant moisturisers like Thayer's and Hada Labo gokujyuun lotion.

>>8387207
Regarding PIH:

It's been discussed a little on leddit's skincare board but i think a lot of (pale white) people don't have PIH, but post-inflammatory erythema instead. It's not to do with melanin, which produces the darker spots, but something about the capillaries under your skin where topical ingredients don't really make a lot of difference. They go away with time or laser therapy but can be helped along by treating your skin very delicately and using wound-care measures like silicone gel.
Also, if you're acne prone taking biotin isn't recommended.

>>8391313
also, chemical exfoliation with a BHA

>>8394466
>>8395381
You might have an older epilator. The new ones are better with fine hair. I'm ginger so naturally not very hairy, I have the newest braun silk epil.

Ingrown hair come from not exfoliating, use those gloves. I wonder how you don't get ingrown hair under your arms? That has been a huge problem for me so I just dry shave there.
I also don't use any product before (just wash my legs) and after epilating.
Also treat ingrown hair like zits on your face. Don't touch and if you have to, use disinfectant. It takes forever to heal if you pick at it..

I use avene cleanance k chemical exfoiliator (only during a breakout), but it's starting to get hot around where I live. Is 30spf (vichy) enough? What happens when I don't use is sufficiently? I'm paranoid about skin cancer..

What brand of razors do you use? Everything by Venus seems to fuck my shit up. I've tried some Dorco ones that did okay, but nothing great.

Don't over exfoliate. No scrubbing, no loofahs, no wash cloths, find a chemical exfoliate and use it once a day at the most. Also never put anything with alcohol on your face.

Wash your face twice a day, morning and night with a gentle facial cleanser, I've had good results with the cetaphil dermacontrol cleanser. It's important to use a facial cleanser and not regular soap. The pH of typical soap or bodywash is too high for your face, a cleanser isn't as harsh.

When washing your face, start with a splash of cold water to 'wake up' your skin, rinse with warm water and your cleanser afterwards, then another splash of cold water as an astringent.

After washing your face, apply a moisturizer that has spf 30 protection, again the cetaphil dermacontrol moisturizer has worked very well for me, but you may use any brand you wish, just do some research.

For extreme cases (or if you work in a pizza place) apply a clindamycin and benzoyal peroxide cream underneath your moisturizer. You may need to see a doctor to get this prescribed, I use something called benzaclin. It should go without saying, but for god's sake don't get this shit too close to your eyes. Wait at least 15 minutes before you moisturize after using the cream. Depending on how dry your skin gets, you may want to only use this once per day, preferably at night.

Avoid stuff with any kind of paraben in it unless you know that you're not allergic. And if you use a lot of make-up, keep your brushes clean.

For guys, stay away from electric shavers. Invest in a good double-edge safety razor and keep it clean. Change your razor blades regularly and find an alcohol-free aftershave.

When in doubt, see a dermatologist.

>>8437853
>I'm ginger so naturally not very hairy
You'd be surprised
>tfw ginger with dark body hair
why god

>>8442204
>Also never put anything with alcohol on your face.
Most sunscreens contain alcohol, hate to break it to you. Alcohol is perfectly fine in cosmetics and helps product penetrate the skin better.
>>8441422
Venus are overpriced rubbish, I just use the regular Bic for men tbh

>>8442204
>alcohol=bad
bullshit
>'wake up your skin'
bullshit
>parabens=bad
double bullshit

when in doubt, stop talking out of your ass

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/othercarcinogens/athome/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer-risk
http://www.thefactsabout.co.uk/information-on-parabens./content/5/h
http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/myths/antiperspirants-fact-sheet
ec.europa.eu/health/ph_risk/committees/04_sccp/docs/sccp_o_00d.pdf
http://skinandtonics.com/debunking-skin-care-myths-interview-cosmetic-chemist-perry-romanowski/
https://smartskinsolutions.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/dispelling-the-myths-about-alcohol-in-skin-care/
http://www.zaega.com/beauty-myth-alcohol-dries-out-and-damages-your-hair-and-your-skin.html

>>8442238
>>8442227
>alcohol
will dry your skin if you use too much
>'wake up your skin'
cold water stimulates blood circulation
>parabens=bed
They're not bad, but some people are deathly allergic to that shit. You'd notice that I didn't say they were bad if you weren't so eager to post that string of links you've been saving.

>>8442262
>but some people are deathly allergic to that shit
1 in a million
might as well tell people not to eat peanuts because they might be allergic. Obviously, if they are they'd know because parabens are present in more than just skincare.
>will dry your skin if you use too much
Literally cannot happen if you use cosmetics meant for your skin type, or any EU/FDA-approved cosmetics, which is most of what they sell in stores, as alcohol use is heavily regulated. You would have known that if you'd actually read the posts the links point to.
>You'd notice that I didn't say they were bad if you weren't so eager to post that string of links you've been saving.
Maybe you should source your claims as well instead of talking out of your ass.

>>8442272
droppin' by
you are right it's 1 in a million or more or less 1 in 5.7 million because i happen to be one of those ones in a millions and you need to have very very very sensitive skin basically baby like skin to be allergic even then most of the time 1+ year old babies can handle washes and hand sanitizers that contain alcohol and be fine.
i have something that makes me deathly allergic to just about everything, alcohol if consumed or smelt but when in contact with my skin only a rash occurs, even living with over 1000+ severe allergies i have not met a single person that could die from having something like an alcohol wipe or something that contains alcohol to come in contact with their skin.
>cri
>just more info not trying to judge
>more people that know maybe more things will be released for people like me

>>8442204
Ok mom

>>8442752
Never thought I'd experience summer in the skincare thread.

Hey guys, accutane update here. I'm reaching the end of my third month on it, and I'm currently at 40mg. At my next checkup my derm will decide if I should go up to 60mg or stay at 40. I'm at the point where it's my main problem areas that there must be a lot of junk deep down still coming up. Anyone have any experience with 60mg? I'm pretty comfy with the 40mg but I'm afraid that I'm making things take a longer time than I could be by being cautious. Thoughts?

>>8442227
>>8441422
same. i use disposable men's razors. it's great

>>8387131
I had a droopy eyelid then I started raising my eyebrows (like alternating them) and now they're equal. Try that and maybe it might help?

>>8448074
How many blades?

>>8405077

they also have the potential to completely fuck up a bunch of other shit, though. i was on accutane for six months and developed serious stomach/intestinal ulcers that are still here after about a year off the stuff.

and it didn't get rid of the acne. like, at all. i blame any clearing that's happened since on learning to take care of myself properly (and growing out of it).

ANYWAY, back to lurking, these threads are not only informational but inspirational. keep up the good work! hearts

I just bought this new face wash while I'm on vacation visiting my stepmom in Eastern Europe. I'm absolutely in love with it so far (though after the second week I'll know for sure). The bottle is all in German and Polish and I've never seen it before and I'm absolutely in love with it so far. My jimmies are rustling because I don't know if I can get it back home. Haven't looked into ordering it online because I haven't been thinking that far ahead, but if I can't get it online then I don't know what I'm gonna do.

Partially hoping it makes me break out or get a ridiculous dry patch or rash or SOMETHING so that I don't fall in love with it more.

>>8446742
better to be cautious than rush things, but ultimately talk with your derm. see what they think, but definitely voice your concerns.

>>8387131
I feel your pain, anon. I have one tapered fold and one parallel and it's annoying as fuck.

>>8387958
i thought this was going to be a suggestion to put apple cider vinegar on your face and I was about to fall apart. Drinking it is fine (didn't know about the digestive stuff, that's neat!!), but if you've ever had anyone tell you to put it on your face don't. Seriously that can really upset the pH balance of your face.

>>8389505
My acne didn't start til I was an adult like you. It's cleared up a lot since I started using Toner and Moisturizer. I used to think I just wan't using the right face wash and blew through almost every thing at the drug store.

>>8392880
You might be dehydrated. When I don't drink enough water no matter what cremes or lotions I put on my face my under eyes stay dry. But when I get enough water it's easy to keep them soft.

This grill obviously need skin care. YATTA

>>8448753
When I was on accutane it made my poop smell bad, that's about it. Everyone reacts to it differntly anon, and you're within your right not to take it. I'm glad your acne has started to clear up afterwards though. Mine would not clear up no matter what I did, and I completely overhauled my lifestyle a few times in an attempt to fix shit. It all cleared up while on the 'tane, but I was terrified the whole time I was on it because of the possible side effects.

>>8449468
Yeah man, look up "apple cider vinegar for acne" on youtube, there's a lot of vlog posts about how drinking it every day helped them. It's like a mini health drink too, which I like because it makes my skin feel nice and then helps me with my digestion problems. (I have a hard time stomaching heavy foods anymore idk why)

I've used ACV as a spot treatment before and it works well, but I wouldn't rub it all over my face, that's just asking for trouble. But I think I'll stick to drinking it lol

>>8450232
I heard that drinking ACV can also help with weight loss?

My skin is very dry and sensitive. I can't even wash my face with regular soap as it makes my skin so dry and tight it hurts. After I shower I hurry up and moisturize but all moisturizers burn as well - but the burning from the moisturizers is better than the dry skin.

All makeup I've ever tried makes my skin burn like hell but I still torture myself by wearing it as I'm no natural beauty. Whenever I come home from running errands I almost run to the bathroom to wash my face as soon as possible because of the stinging/burning.

I have spent thousands on cosmetics and skin care products through the years, most of them being ''for sensitive skin'' etc. but nothing is comfortable. I have gone to pharmacies and asked for help there, got so many samples of different ''mild'' creams and other types of products but nope.

I'm desperate.

>>8450311
Anon, you shouldn't wash your face with regular soap in the first place. It's bad for your skin and is drying.
Try Cetaphil for sensitive skin for your cleanser, I used that when I was on Accutane and it worked great. If that's still too harsh just use babywipes. Do you have acne problems? Or is your skin just dry?
Moisturiser - Cetaphil lotion or Aloe Vera gel. Try First Aid Repair Cream as a night cream before you go to sleep, that should really help you replenish the moisture in your face. Drink a shitton of water to keep your skin hydrated.

>>8450236
Different anon, but from what I've seen from my mother taking it and what's she's read about it, it seems to be a cure all.

Its super foul tasting, but you can feel it working. Its good to take it when you're sick or if you feel like you're getting sick.

I've heard weight loss is possible, drinking it everyday kick starts your metabolism, or something. I imagine it being like drinking lemon water in the morning. Always worth a try, good luck.

can anyone recommend any sunscreens that ..don't smell like sunscreen. i'm talking like spf 50. i'm moving to a warmer climate and very pale but don't want to smell like sunscreen all day every day.

>>8449439
Post a pic of the face wash? I'm interested in it. I'm also hoping you have dry skin so I can also fall in love with it.

>>8453055
Tan

>>8450311

(tl;dr if you're lazy like me and didn't read even this sentence)
>Get healthier any way possible improve your diet and fitness
>Don't believe that "hypoallergenic" shit
>Read the shit you buy
>Fragrances = problem
>Sunlight = problem
>Cold environments = problem
>Chemicals/added preservatives = problem
>Stress = problem
>Dehydration = problem

I have problems similar (a genetic disorder) though I've not ever worn makeup because of the fear of this happening.
>and cause im a lazy fuck

I'd honestly go to your GP/doctor ask for a diagnosis. (Skin specialists etc.)
Try and go to a Naturopath or a dietitian/fitness dood anyone who can help you to set you on the right path to lead a healthier life, most of the time with skin related things (I know this from experience) it's internal than the external unless you know you're drowning your face in bleach or whatnot. If you've tried that then I'd recommend going to your local chemist or even just the biggest chemist you can find and ask them to make something for you, some chemists still do make special formula/creams/ointments or even know some private companies who do. I've done it many of times for many different occasions, it is expensive I won't lie even if you want like a 2ml tube it still hurts the wallet. But it's the best to do, I have many creams I use for my basically sandpaper skin that work though they don't have a special name or anything because they are just made at the chemist.
Skin shit things are different for everyone so I don't have much to say that'll help, I'm sorry. Some personal reccomended changes that /might/ help are: Wash your linen/clothes regularly, Avoid acidic and hot/spicy foods, Try exfoliating your skin and starting anew, avoid things with strong fragrances, maybe even get a filter for your shower and just watch what you eat. If no cream reaaaally helps, it helps to know what's going on inside your body, internally. Get a check up or someshit.

>goodluck pls keep us updated

>>8453498
If it can help :
I've got really dry skin from eczema. It's greyish, it used to flake a lot and there is marks and spots on it. I have a medical cream for my body and face to help it heal and make sure it's moisturised enough, the cream is basically what they give you after a huge burn. I've been using it for years, and it keep my skin moisturised enough for it to not be so sensitive. When I got into skincare I bought a lot of different products but all left my skin red with a burning feeling or really freacking dry. I started homemaking my face cream at the beginning of the year and my skin def got better. I still have to use the medical cream every other day for profound moisturising but my homemade cream is fitted for my skin on a daily basis. There are website and shops specialised in homemade cosmetics in which one can purchase needed instruments, ingredients and recipe books. I'm lucky there is such a shop in my city, they even give classes about everything you need, basic hygiene and conservation 101 comprised. I'm never gonna praised homemade cosmetics enough. I admit it can look a bit scary, and it takes time and a bit of dedication to get into it but it's pretty rewarding.
I'm so never going back.

>>8453055
i've been using a neutrogena spf 70 face sunblock for my face, hands, and arms. you just have to rub it in well, because while it doesn't smell, it leaves a white-ish cast and sometimes is really thick.

it must be working pretty well. my commute to work is over an hour, and my hands got SUPER tan compared to the rest of me. it was super noticeable and gross. i started using lightening soap in conjunction with sunscreen, and in 3 weeks, my skintone is almost even. it lightened at least 3 shades on my fingers/hands, probably.

>>8454057
Why are you so obsessed with being pale? That's sick.

>>8454059
my fingers were 4-5 shades darker than arms. my hands were probably 3-4 shades darker than my arms. i think any normal person wouldn't be delighted to have that unevenness in skintone. a $5 bar of soap and sunscreen is nowhere near obsessed.

but i actually do enjoy being pale. i hate being tan, but a lot of it is because only parts of me tan, like my hands, neck, and shoulders. my forearms and face don't just get sunburned -- i get this awful rash.

>>8454057
anon, you do realize that technically there's no such thing as a sunscreen that goes above like spf 35ish? You'd get away with the same amount of coverage with an spf50 tbh.

>>8454197
Yeah, I've been reading that for years. But all the facial sun blocks at the pharmacy were that or higher. There were 15 spf sun screens too, I guess. I do believe there is a difference between sunscreen and sun block, though

>>8389505
You are very pretty anon <3

>>8454623
Go away

Hey guys, quick question. So is it normal for when you're on a treatment for cystic acne, for it to work in stages? Like, I'm much better off now than I was when I first started, but a bunch of acne comes up, the pus drains out, my skin heals over. Then I'm pimple free for a day or two and then more come up, and it just works in a weird cycle like that. It's been a few months since I started and I just want clear skin. I'm guessing this sort of thing is normal, and I'm just going to have to be patient? I mean, my skin looks looks like hyperpigmented applesauce so I guess that means I have a lot of gross yucky build up under it?

http://cosmetic-love.com/products/holika-holika-soda-pore-cleansing-cream?variant=3204223300

Does this look ok? I'm a skincare noob who's weak for cute packaging..

What is a good skin bleaching cream?

I have a ridiculous farmer's tan right now.

>inb4 stay out of the sun for 2 months

>>8456594
Lol, no skin bleaching cream is going to help that tan. There's some soaps and creams that may help a bit but honestly you have to wait for the tan to go away naturally.

For anyone who uses or has wanted to try Clinique, you can get free shipping, cosmetic bag, and exfoliator with the promo code BUFF.

http://hip2save.com/2015/07/07/clinique-free-cosmetic-bag-free-body-exfoliator-and-free-shipping-w-any-order-today-only-great-deal/