/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Reposting from last thread -- what are some good BB cream recommendations for dry skin? My skin is quite dry and most foundations/BBs become flaky and gross after some time of wear. I managed to lessen it by switching to more moisturizing skincare and using a primer, but I still turn into a lizard after a few hours. Right now I'm using Missha Perfect Cover and I feel like that might also be playing a part due to how high coverage it is.
> pic related was the best picture I could find to illustrate what I mean. tfw it's literally someone with snow on their face.

>>8334099
MUFE HD foundation, NARS creamy concealer, Too Faced Better Than Sex mascara, Clinique Color Pop blush, Kat Von D ink liners OR Sephora Collection pencil liner OR Marc Jacobs gel liner, MUFE or Viseart eyeshadows, Stila liquid lipstick, Hourglass Ambient Lighting Palette.

>>8334254
Do you want full coverage, or would you be fine switching to tinted moisturizer?

>>8334259
I'm fine with toning down the coverage. Since I've changed my skincare products I've actually noticed less acne/redness as a result, oddly enough.

>>8334284
It's entirely possible that your old products didn't jive with your skin, or that you were just clogging things up.

Anyway, if you're dry (and not combo), tinted moisturizer or even watery American-style CC cream might be a good bet for you. I'm combo with lizard patches, and Stila CC stays unpatchy (... but oily. And sallow) where Tarte Amazonian Clay foundation or Smashbox BB flake.

>>8334099
Some of the stuff I recommend:

From Too Faced:

Candlelight Glow highlighter- but only if you're on the fair side. It will look chalky if you're olive toned. You HAVE to be light handed with it because a little goes a long way and it's easy to put too much on. If you just dust it on, the highlights it leaves literally looks like candlelight.

Their melted lipstick. I only have one sample tube, but I like it a lot. It's really pigmented and it's halfway between a regular lipstick and one of those "liquid to matte" lip colors. I just think it's easy to apply and get the right amount of color that I want. The sample tube I have is a brighter color than I would normally use, but I just squeeze a little out and the fuzzy tip makes it easy to spread a little color and buff it on my lips. I'd buy more of these, but I have too many lip products right now.

I also like their first chocolate pallet, their bronzers, and their sweetheart blush.

Urban Decay's setting spray is pretty much a staple.

The Sephora brand pro bent liner brush #23 makes it super easy to do fine eye liner wings. The beauty blender is also actually a pretty good makeup tool.

I like Besame's brightening violet powder. It's kind of expensive for the amount of product you get, but it smells good and it's feather light. I feel like it helps blend my contouring together when I've finished my makeup.

I like Benefit's benetint. I bought it on impulse and thought it was the dumbest buy ever, but it's actually really useful for when I'm in a rush and want to put a touch of makeup on. It's a lip and cheek tint that smells like roses.

Tarte's BB tinted primer dries can help give more coverage to your foundation or whatever you use, but it has enough tint in it to give a decent amount of coverage by itself. I like to mix mine that is slightly darker than my skin tone with BB creams that are usually a little too light.

>>8334404
I always wanted to try various besame products purely for the vintage gimmick. Whenever their company was just starting, I requested an item catalogue. Eventually, I received it in a poster tube. I found the poster tube in my room earlier this year (Febuary-ish) Turns out there was a faux-vintage poster inside.... That thing was sitting unknown for years in my own room. Crazy.

>>8334099
I really prefer Korean cosmetics. I tried western brands like Max Factor and MAC but I somehow get breakouts from them. I'm Korean so I pretty much prefer local cosmetics, and also because they're cheaper. Anyways, my favorites would be:

Holika Holika's Aqua Petit Jelly BB Cream - doesn't give that icky feeling, it dries out like powder (but I still use powder after) good for tan and fair skin. Doesn't give much coverage than actual foundation, so it's for those who really don't have much to hide other than the occasional dark circles

Hanyul Rich Effect Cream Powder - it's huge and I've been using this for 2 years, it feels nice on the skin and works on fair and tan Asian skin (I tend to switch between fair and tan quickly)

Innisfree Eco Gel Liner - the consistency is perfect and last until the end of the day, really hard to get it off, sweatproof/waterproof based on my experience

Recs for US residents shopping for Korean and Japanese products?

>>8334597
Read Musings of a Muse. She reviews a lot of Korean/Japanese products and tells you where she bought them.

Bit of an odd question:
I've got a very 'classical' long face (think pre-Raphaelite paintings, pic related with thin lips, long nose, no manjaw and considerably less pretty hair) and I'm not sure I can pull off cute and youthful.

What should I put emphasis on and what should I play down, makeup-wise? Most of the makeup I've tried so far made me look like a horse, especially with the current bushy browvangelism people seem to be pushing onto everyone.

I'm just not sure which direction I should be heading towards because my face is neither manly enough to warrant Morticia Addams-type makeup and arrangements nor feminine enough to work with cute, flirty makeup and hair.

>>8334648
You should just post a picture of your face if you want advice on makeup that will suit you. Blank out your eyes if you're embarrassed.

I asked this in the last thread but I didn't see any responses-

I have really big dimples and always hated how they shaped my face when I smile. It makes my cheeks have this weird dark shadows where they dimple in, and it also makes the corners of my mouth look dark. Is there any way to make my face look softer?

>>8334648
So you have a man face because all the models were men they just happened to put boobs on?

You can re-contour your face with concealer. Broaden the apples of your cheeks, this will make your face seem rounder and more feminine only shadow the edge with only on shade darker because you're not a Queen. Brighten your eyes and draw attention to them with your shadows. Sculpt your chin by brightening it if it's angular, darkening if it's chubs.

Pic related is both male and female types and will help with the differences. Faces from that time were very different because of the patriarchal rules for having artists models through the church, I wasn't trying to offend you but if I did, I hope the advice helps anyway.

>>8334666
Dimples are caused by the muscular facial structure. The skin is being pulled between a gap in your facial muscles when they contract. Spend some time making faces in a mirror and smiling differently. The bigger the smile the bigger the dimples. A pleasant neutral might be your best since it bothers you, but dimples are super cute imo.
You can always have the gap filled... usually this takes surgery though.

Quick question:
How do I make my face look shorter/rounder? Just a lot of highlight on the cheeks?
I tried on a wig for a cosplay and it makes my face look really long.

>>8334704
>So you have a man face because all the models were men they just happened to put boobs on?
Wasn't that Michaelangelo? Because many of the pre-Raphaelite paintings portrayed very beautiful women (Ophelia for example) but if I posted one of those I'd get shredded to bits on /cgl/ because I sound too 'conceited' or whatever.

And no, not manface, just a kinda long face. Think Florence Welch. Thanks for the advice though, I'll definitely put it to good use! Though I was also asking what kind of an 'aesthetic' I should be aiming for, if that makes sense.

>>8334750
>Think Florence Welch.

Florence does have a man face kinda, sorry

>>8334704
Dimples Anon here. I think I'm just stupidly self conscious of them. I feel like since they're so deep / noticeable, it doesn't make my face soft enough for lolita. I'm the only person in my family with them (no one knows where they came from. I always assumed it was a recessive gene on one side of the family) but it's nothing I'd get surgery over. I practice trying to find the happy medium but whenever I am really excited or grinning they happen, so I was hoping some kind of make up trick would make them look less deep. (Every result online I found was how to make them more deep/ opposite goal.)

Thank you though! I'll keep practicing with different smiles (or keep trying hard to convince myself they look okay)

>>8334769
ah well

Urban Decay setting spray is a must, especially if you live in a hot/ humid climate where you sweat a lot.
Stila's Stay All Day pen eyeliner is amazing. Wore it to a foam party concert thing and 80% of it was still on when I left which is amazing considering I usually come away with no make-up on.
Most anything by Make-up Forever. I use their foundation and some of their eyeliners and they're amazing.
Kat Von D's lipsticks are great and come in great colors, particularly for gothic. That's about the only good thing she has though, imo.
GlamGlo is great too. Surprised I don't hear more about it here. It's not the miracle face mask that everyone says it is, but it's a good thing to keep around for when you need serious exfoliation (if you can afford it). Be careful if you have sensitive skin though.
All I can think of at the moment? Hope you find something you like anon.

these kinds of lips wearable?

>>8334958
no

>>8334958
for a photoshoot, maybe
otherwise no not really

>>8334254
I love Skin79's gold label. Coverage is on the sheer side though

>>8334958
If you're wearing a full-on neon '80s, fairy kei, decora, etc look I don't see why not. It wouldn't be any stranger than what you're wearing, after all. But with something more natural like lolita or other styles, I'd say no.

>>8334750
Anon, I know you're insulted with the man face thing but it's true. Even Raphaelite paintings are of males, just adolescents because they're ambiguous. It was a male dominated field until the late 1800's when women were being educated and deemed worthy of having talents.

>>8334773
Have you tried liquid latex?

>>8334254
I really like using Etude house mineral cushion in moist. I have a really hard time with this too because I'm so dry.

>>8335011
Ah fair enough. I'm not really insulted, just kind of bummed out. Those types of faces are fairly commonplace where I live so I never really saw it as a man face, but I guess it makes sense. Women in my country are said to be ugly after all.

THIS anons, this is THE best lip balm I've ever used. No matter how much water I would drink or what kind of balm I'd use, nothing would help. My lips would still chap. Summer, winter, you name it. This stuff saves me. And at only $7, (which may be a bit pricy for a balm) it's wonderful. http://www.sephora.com/strawberry-lip-balm-P42205?skuId=683508

>>8334479
It's cool that you're giving suggestions, but OP asked for brands sold at Sephora. So....

>>8335063
It is a general makeup thread, but OP also asked what were people's favourite brand (which I understand as fave items not just from Sephora).

>>8335031
Man face doesn't necessarily mean ugly, anon. Plus points of man face include having a decent jawline, actually having a chin, prominent cheekbones, the ability to pull off androgyny.

>>8334254

I have a face like this. Immediately after showering, I put a layer of jojoba oil on my face (blot off excess) and/or a really intense moisturizer (pic related, it's the one I have, I stock up during Clinique's annual super-freebie-set promotion which I think is still going on). This nips 80% of the problem in the bud. Works best if I shower at night, though. Never before doing this had I ever woke up in the morning and been inclined to call my face "glowing". It's a huge confidence boost. Then when I do makeup I start with a layer of moisturizer again and follow with Clinique Even Better foundation.

My first makeup ever was Clinique but in my teens I tried MAC and and several drugstore brands, I wanted to get away from "what my mom wears". Now I'm back to it because it just feels so much better than anything else and doesn't make me break out.

Sorry that's not a BB recommendation but there you go. My $7.99 bottle of oil from trader joes has lasted me a long ass time so far. So has my $$$ moisturizer, even though I tend to really slather it on more than necessary.

>>8335191
> i don't mind spending over the $50 because i know it's all high end cosmetics, but what are your favorite products?

She was talking about having to spend $50 at Sephora. You can share your favorite products, but I'm just pointing out that wasn't what OP was asking.

>>8335042
>tfw i drink a gallon of water a day and never have to use anything on my lips
you should all try this tbh buy a gallon jug of water and drink it all in a day and see what it does to you
i reuse the jug, it's only $1 and I refill it with my pitcher filter
>scalp wasn't oily when i woke up, didn't have to use dry shampoo
>face wasn't red

>>8334479
I've been trying Holika Holika's stuff out. The 3step pig nose blackhead remover was the best thing I've ever used! Have anything else to reccomend?

>>8335350
Please keep talking. You are a wealth of knowledge we could have never believed existed before you graced us with your clever and thought provoking point of view.
We could have never gone on without your wisdom.

>>8335380
A gallon of water sounds like overkill unless you're at the gym or intentionally drinking that much to avoid eating.

>>8334099
Lucky! Wish I was in your shoes, please send me your makeup fairy godmother's business card.

On the high end glam note: I personally love love love the too faced chocolate bar palette. It's very versatile, smells yummy, and is super kawaii as far as packaging goes. I've only ever had problems with the really sparkling purple shadow, fallout for daaaays. Also I've heard marvelous things about benefits there real mascara, I haven't personally tried it but if I had cash to blow I'd most likely take the risk. Also if you're in the market for a good highlighter becca sells one that's positively devine. Btw I think I'd blow some cash on kat von d's heartagram blush because it looks vampy and dangerous and I feel like you should only be allowed to wear it if you own a sexy leather jacket to match.

Hope that helps good luck Cutiepatootie!

>>8335011
Honestly the smell of liquid latex makes me sick. I had a shitty con experience where a girl kept leaving it out and the whole room just began to reek of it. I was looking for a simpler solution (like if a type of blending or contouring) could do the trick. I'm not super experienced with make up in general other than basics.Also I don't know if liquid latex would work for me (I have oily skin and used to have bad cystic acne, so I don't know if I'd react to it or not)

Really, thank you though! I feel a little better about them, even if there isn't much I can do.

Anyone have any good recs for gel eyeliner? It's all I line my eyes with now. The one I'm currently using (e.l.f. brand) is okay but it's not pigmented enough for my liking.

>>8335626
I've heard good things about L'Oreal Infallible 24-hour Lacquer Liner from others, but I've yet to try it myself, though I've been meaning to.

>>8334099
I recently started working at Saks Fifth Ave and I have gotten the opportunity to work with some higher end makeup brands and artists. I really am in love with Trish Mcevoy mascara. I have sensitive eyes and it doesn't cause irritation, it also comes off with just warm water, and in tubes so it doesn't smudge all over the place. She also makes a great liquid liner pen!

>>8335626
kat von dee's tattoo liner, although that's technically liquid liner with a brush tip. she does have gel liner too, and i've always experienced great things when it comes to her stuff. anything of hers will not run, will not crack, will not move without heavy heavy wear and tear. i wore that shit for a flight over to japan, cried my eyes out the whole time, and it was still flawless.

>>8336000
may i ask why you were crying on your flight to japan? also is her studded kiss lipstick any good? i've had my eye on it for a while

are dollywink lashes worth the money? i do the whole circle lenses and false eyelashes routine on a daily basis.
also my favorites for drugstore makeup are l'oreal's infallible eyeliner (the kind in the plastic tube that you roll up). been using that shit since 8th grade and i love it. also maybelline's mega plush waterproof mascara. good for a more natural look, not clumpy

>>8336012
Maybe Anon is scared to fly

>>8336017
I think they're really nice. They get a lot of wear out of them too, I've worn the same two pairs for the past 6 months atleast once a week.

>>8334404
Okay, question. I've tried Urban Decay's setting spray and found that it did nothing for me, my make up still felt uncomfortable against my face. (greasy ish) and I don't even use a lot of foundation. Does it just not do well with humidity?

any good 'puffy eyed' tutorials for white girls?

>>8336012
Not that Anon but I've heard her studded kiss lipstick is hit or miss. Some of her shades like Coven go on really light and patchy while other shades like backstage bambi are super pigmented and last forever. Just read reviews on shades you like and try to swatch in store if possible.

>>8336338
I find that that happens to me too. I guess the setting spray isn't really good for blotting greasiness unless you buy the matte one (de-slick?). I usually put a tiny bit of powder on top of the spray to make my face more matte. I live in a very dry climate, though, so it might just not play well with humid climates. Try the de-slick one?

http://www.sephora.com/de-slick-oil-control-makeup-setting-spray-P277222?skuId=1458181

Anyone know how well Endura makeup resists rubbing off? I have to black out my face, but every makeup I use rubs off from the mask I'm wearing over it; gives me a halo of undone skin around the masks holes.

>>8334947
seconding the Stila's stay all day waterproof liner, it doesn't quit. I only buy the travel size though

>replace after 6-8 months
>eyeliner dries out anyway after that time

>>8336012
not that anon, but i have her studded lipsticks in lovecraft and motorhead. the former is wonderful and one of my go to colors, but motorhead takes some work to get on without it being patchy

any good recs for foundation/concealers that don't oxidize massively?

>>8336338
I haven't had that problem and it's kind of surprising to me actually because the setting spray feels mostly like alcohol, and I live in a humid area. However, I don't have oily skin at all (mine is pretty dry) and I always use it combined with setting powder, so these things might help how much it works with me.

>>8337671
>>8336426

I agree with these two. I bought the sample set and it seems like the dark colors are all patchy and pretty much hopeless. The other colors are fine. I also have Lovecraft though, and it's a matte dream. It's my favorite none red lipstick. I also use Countess a lot, which is a bright orange red, and it stays really well with lip sealer.

>>8334479
Does the Aqua Petit BB cream work well for more neutral skintones? I have really fair skin (sometimes the lightest shade of drugstore foundation is too dark) and it's a pretty neutral shade, maybe a little on the cool side. I've been eyeing that BB cream for a while, but I don't know if it would work on my skin.

Also requesting general pale foundation recommendations.

Can anyone recommend a thick concealer that can cover hickeys? I've tried the whole green/yellow concealer, then foundation and it looks stupid (or I'm bad at it). Most of the tube-based concealers I've tried seem to "wash off" when I apply my foundation, no matter how careful I am.

I have a few korean BB creams.

• Holika Holika aqua jelly petit bb cream
• Missha Perfect Cover #21 or 23 (don't remember.)
• Holika Holika clearing petit bb cream (I have two bottles-- one is a different shade than the other, even though they're supposed to be the same...)
• Holika Holika Face 2 Change liquid roller bb
• A sample of Etude House precious mineral bb cream.
• The mini-set of Skin79 bb creams (gold, black, pink, etc)

I can throw together some swatches if anybody's interested.

>>8337960
Go on! I'd love to see some.

>>8337960
I love Missha Perfect #13. I need to find something similar, since it's not sold where I live.

I am in dire need of help, hope it's okay if I ask here:

I have really sensitive eyes, but my lids get oily during the day. (Gross, I know.) I have tried urban decay's purple potion-looking bottle primer, the standard primer by too faced, AND the primer by benefit, and nothing keeps my shadow in place after 4 hours. Anyone have some advice they could throw my way? Would seriously be a life-changer.

>>8337960
Yes please

>>8337942
Dermablend. Get the kind in a jar.

Glamoflauge by Hard Candy at Walmart. It's super thick, but also oily, so you'll probably need to set it with a powder.

>>8335412
you're supposed to drink a gallon of water. 8 oz of water 8 times a day.

>>8335031
Personally I find everyone attractive, usually the more unique a face the better. Also 'fox noses' are best, love the hook bumps too. Remember that they were painted because they are attractive.

>>8338123
A gallon is 128 ounces. 8 ounces of water 8 times a day is 64 ounces. A half gallon is about the recommended amount for one day. A full gallon is a lot for anyone who isn't doing something out of the ordinary during their day.

>>8337966
>>8337973
>>8338056

Here.
From top to bottom, 1-11. I white-balanced the swatches as well. I also included a normal, american foundation--Tarte Amazonian Clay Foundation in Ivory.

The BB creams are /far/ lighter than the swatches lead on to be-- they're way sheerer when put on the face, so they're less dark. I could maybe do some applied swatches, too, but that would require far more time (and more body space.)

My personal favorites are 2 and 10. The Aqua petit jelly is super sheer, and I can't say much about the Skin79 ones because I haven't actually used them..but now I might try out 6 & 7 soon.

>>8338258
Thanks for the swatches anon! Which one is number 6? I can tell it's skin79 but not which one

>>8338019
I have oily lids as well, and I quite like UD. Right now I just use Milani's primer since it's a bit cheaper and works pretty almost as well as UD, so give that a try?

>>8338284
It's the Diamond the Prestige BB cream. And, no problem!

They definitely all look way darker-- #2 fits my skin very nicely, as well as #4, while #10 is about a shade too light (but I still use it because the finish and coverage is fantastic.). I don't enjoy the Etude House one at all, far too orange for me. The roller BB cream is actually very...interesting. It applies very smoothly, but is a tad too dark for me.

>>8338019
I have super oily lids as well anon. My eyes are also very watery because I live in a land of year-round allergies, so my eyeliner is always a bitch for me to keep in place (especially at the corners). For me, my makeup's staying power hinges less on which primer I use and more on applying a thin basecoat of white shadow first. It's such a silly little thing but it makes such a huge difference for me; on days where I don't, my shadow and eyeliner are travelling within the first couple of hours...but since I've been using a white pressed powder shadow to essentially dry my lids out before applying color and it has made a huge difference. Like, flawless eyes after 12 hours of wear, then getting drunk, and then sobering up.
Not sure how much help that is to you, but it might be worth a shot! Good luck!

>>8338312
Also sorry for grammar, head is soup.

>>8338258
Also, I forgot to include that, the Aqua jelly is shade #2, the Holika Holika roller is #23, and the Missha is shade #21.

Does anyone know of any cruelty-free makeup brands that are good for cosplay? I'm trying to get into using them more. One of my favorites are E.L.F.

>>8339485
http://www.crueltyfreekitty.com/ultimate-guide-to-cruelty-free-makeup/

>>8339485
Are you looking for cheap, or expensive? Really good pigment, or do you not care? Wide color range, or no? Do you care if their parent company is cruelty-free or not?

Any recommendations of primers? I've never used any but would like to introduce them into my makeup routine.

>I dont have problems with oiliness and if I had -any- of the main skin problems it'd be dryness
>but even then its not a big problem

>>8339622
I have oily skin and Bare Minerals primers work well for me

>>8339622
I love Smashbox's Photofinish primer, but it definitely gives you a dewy finish, which not everyone likes.

If you want a matte finish, Rimmel London's Stay Matte primer is great.

>>8339622

Similar question, does anyone have any experience with Too Faced primer?

>>8338085
I picked up the Glamoflauge today since I was already there and it's cheap. Tried it on in the car and OH BOY IS IT THICK. Bless you anon.

>>8336000
dude, I have watery eyes and wore it while I was with my ex(who made me cry a lot) and it was awful! I do not recommend it for a waterproof eyeliner. When my eyes weren't leaking it stayed on fine but I would prefer Urban Decays liquid liner for sure (still not as waterproof as I would like)

I'm still searching for a holy grail, but my Marc Jacobs sample pen is really great so far, and I have an unopened Dolly Wink pen I'm waiting to try. Gonna try Stila's after that.

Any other eyeliner recs?

>>8338019
Try primer and a cream base? Personally an eye primer with the Maybelline color tattoo cream shadows make my eyeshadow last all day and well into the evening.

>>8340386
I just recently switched to the stila stay all day ones for daily use. I love them and the brush tip is one of the best I've used (I prefer them on the softer side), but they aren't really Waterproof. The Heroine Make super waterproof eyeliners are pretty solid too and stay in place better for me but from what I've seen ymmv.

>>8340406
If the Stila one isn't even waterproof I don`t think I'll even bother trying it, so thanks! And I just googled Heroine Make and I'm def gonna try it, I really like the packaging and I am a sucker.

>>8338258
So what is the difference between 2 & 3? I actually own this BB but it looks like the same bottles to me.. newer formula?

Thanks for swatching btw!

>>8340421
I don't know! They're just different-- that bb cream line doesn't have shades that I know of. They do have a new design now, but I don't know if the "normal' shade is 2 or 3. I guess it's just a manufacturing incident. I bought the first one Dec 2013, and then Sept 2014 for the second.

Sucks, because the first shade is the one I like, and I'm almost out.

>>8339485
I think too faced is cruelty free.

>>8340432
It's also my favourite... I ordered mine December 2013 too haha.

If it's really the case that they've updated the colour, I guess this is my excuse to finally go out and try a different product. This one was super cheap ($5 from ebay). I have the money to go higher range, which I've done, but always went back to this dang BB coz none of them compared with colour and consistency..

I guess I'll try your #10 next going by your tastes.

P.S I wish /cgl/ had their own booru, then we could collect stuff like swatches, tutorials etc.

I wouldn't mind hosting an archive (Probably a more useful way of using my hoarding tendencies) but I know shit about running a site or the costs.

>>8340450
...I didnt Google hard enough. I figured out it's much easier than it seems.

Shall I?

Don't know where else to post this, but help me out.
How do I stop looking like ass in every photo?
Every single photo that is taken of me I look like shit in. Usually ages me 10 years, my mouth disappears and my skin always looks greyish and ashy, in some photos I straight up look vaguely Middle-Eastern even though I have red hair and relatively warm-toned pale skin. Needless to say it looks so awkward in photos with the hair and all, but completely normal in real life.

How do I remedy this? I don't have a single flattering photo in any coord and usually have to crop out my face.

>>8340466
What type of camera are you using?
I think these things take practice, especially learning to position your head and pose flatteringly for photos. Which is probably why people like Misako only have one facial expression in photos and they look weird and unnatural. It's earned with practice and figuring your face out that it becomes an insurance against weird photos of yourself.

>>8340442
I definitely love the Amazonian clay foundation! My shade is a tad too light, but I bought it online off of somebody for only $18, so I just went along with it. I'd probably get fair/neutral beige if I was going to buy it for my skintone. Honestly, I still use that bb cream, and then pat on the foundation over problem areas for better coverage.

I think I'm going to try the Skin79 bb cream tonight in a little test-run and see how it looks on me.

>>8340466
I can't really picture what you mean, anon. Maybe a better foundation to keep from looking greyish, and a bolder lip-color to keep it from disappearing?

>>8340450
I mean, you could just make a tumblr. It seems it would be easier to just make that and post shit onto it, instead of like a booru.

Anyone have experience with Jeffree Star velour lipsticks? The colours look gorgeous and if the liquid-to-matte thing is legit i'll consider investing.

>high school
>enjoy experimenting with different makeup
>too cheap to venture out of the drugstore
>college
>understand quality comes with a price tag
>$30 foundation and $20 mascara
>don't even wear makeup much anymore
It's sad really. I'm still interested in makeup and like how I look with it but I can't tell if I've just become more comfortable with who I am or just lazy. My skin has gotten a lot clearer though so I don't feel the need to cover it up as much as I did in high school.

>>8340976
Invest! Do it! I promise you won't be disappointed. I have his shade Queen Supreme and I have to resist not wearing it every single day because it's the most comfortable liquid matte lipstick I've ever used. It lasts all day. I drink coffee with it, I eat large meals, I give kisses and it still looks beautiful. The application is a dream, I love the formula because once you apply you have about a minute of wiggle room to go back and clean up any mistakes. I also own black velvet from limecrime and that was one of my complaints that once it was on your lips you better have precision any little hiccups and you're screwed.(Limecrime has a much more watery formula too in my opinion) Plus I like JS applicator much more it has a point at the tip that makes crisp lines a breeze, no liner needed. The only thing I'll warn you about is if you don't exfoliate and moisturize your lips before you'll look like a dry cracked mess. Oh and if you buy one shade prepare to want them all because they're amazing!

>>8335042
I'll have to try this because my lips are wretched. I play a reed instrument a lot and work in a very dry building so they're almost always chapped/peeling, I've tried a bunch of different things that work for a little bit but they just stop helping after a while.

>>8341572
Thank you for the in depth info! I'm waiting for Unicorn Blood and 714 to come back in stock and then I'm gonna get them both :)

>>8339742
I personally didn't think it did much, I was given a small sample of it and I could still see my pores through my foundation, which is usually not the case with a proper primer.

what's a good powder foundation for sensitive skin? It could be loose or pressed. I used to buy this rimmel pure natural powder when I lived abroad, but it's not available in my country I guess?

I love Sephora. I mostly buy the Magic Ink eyeliner. It's jet black, goes on smooth, and lasts until you wash it off. I love it. It's not too expensive. The first couples times I went there I racked up on TokiDoki eyeshadow. I got a 2 necklace charms with them. I also like to buy the Sephora by OPI mini polishes. The brush is spectacular.

I know GlamGlow works but it is so expensive for a tiny bottle. I've never gotten it for this reason. I've seen girls who use it with gorgeous skin.

The makeup HD line looks flawless but unfortunately it breaks me out. I would give it a go though. Thankfully they let me return it.

Can I use eyebrow wax instead of glue for prepping to color my eyebrows?

Does anyone have a tutorial for male to female contoring? I tried to start a crossplay thread but it didn't take off. I know there are some info graphs out there.

>>8345456
Search for drag queen tutorials. You won't want that much eye make up, but they can give you a good start when it comes to counturing.

>>8334259
>>8334404
>>8334479
>>8335476
>>8335762

OP here, thank you so much for the recommendations!!

i'll be honest with you i had no idea this thread had replies as i went away for a few days, but i did go to sephora and i ended up getting benefit's big easy, MUFE mini hd loose powder, beauty blender, a sephora brand lip pencil, and a sample of marc jacob's daisy because it smells bomb. i will definitely be making a note of all your recommendations to purchase though!! i also placed an order from colourpop so i could get the $5 off and their free pigment.

sorry to pointlessly give an update, but again thank you for everything!

>>8344992
no
nononononono

>>8335626
I love L'oreal's gel eyeliner in dark slate. It lasts long, but it can be a bit smudgy. I also love Milani's foil gel eyeliners. They're slightly powdery, but still creamy and last all day. Maybelline's gel eyeliner is kind of a hit or miss for me. They work, but go dry easy.

>>8338182
Agreed, a gallon is probably too much. Anything over 6 litres can easily make you sick, even if you're doing sport.

>>8339742
Its watery af. You're better off getting the Urban Decay Primer, CoverFX primer, Kat Von D primer or something from Smashbox.

Hey gulls,

I bought pic related for a cosplay of a devil character and want to make my face and hands red. The problem is im very new to makeup stuff and am male so need some help:

It says i can mix the magicolour with the liquidset but it doesnt have a ratio

How much do I use of the magicolour to cover my face anyway ( ifugre just test it but i only have 29ml)

I bought the other things because I figured i may need them for contouring? or shading?

Should I get some black makeup as well? I still dont have a design for the face yet but I dont have a sharp chin so to speak so I figured I could fake it with make up illusion after I practice (Btw i bought this stuff to practice with)

It says on the magicolour to use a brush or sponge does anyone have any recommendations for make up kits I live in aus

Any primer/setting spray recommendations for sweaty/hot skin? I know this sounds gross as fuck but I overheat really easily and skin products often end up melting off my face as soon as I start riding my bike or leave the house when it's more than 20 degrees Celsius. When I'm not wearing any kind of product it's not so bad at all but when I am, it literally starts dripping off my nose and chin and getting into my eyes. The annoying thing is that my skin is actually rather dry so products intended to mattify oily skin aren't good for me.

I've tried a setting powder by Too Faced but that didn't really work for me. It made me look powdery and dry before I started sweating/melting and afterwards settled into visible little clumps in the contours of my face. I'll look into the Urban Decay setting spray anon mentioned. Should I try the "All-Nighter" or "Anti-Shine"?

Do any anons who live in hot/humid climates have other recommendations?

>>8334099
Just ordered my first ever eyeshadow trio! I know it's a silly thing to get excited about, but I don't wear makeup much and lately I've been taking care of myself better and it makes a world of difference. I finally feel less out of place when I leave the house.

I'm in Korea right now- any suggestions on which brands are the best for sensitive skin? Anything special or cool that can only be gotten while I'm over here? Just curious.

>>8352059
Innisfree is good, I hear.

>>8352024
I live in the Georgia area which gets super humid and I also lived in Louisiana for a while. What I used to prevent my face from melting off was a combination of the urban decay deslick powder as well as their chill setting spray. I hope that helps you out anon.

I finally got around to redeeming my scent coupon for the Marc Jacob's Daisy Eu de Toilette which I love, I didn't realize that I would get the points for the redemption as well so that was a nice little bonus. I also picked up the Monarch Palette by Kat Von D. because I'm a sucker for anything with a moth/insect theme so that will be fun to try out.

Help, I'm starting to get angry at makeup.

My foundation clumps. Really, really fucking badly. I've never seen anyone's makeup clump as badly as mine does. I have an entire shelf full of different brands and types of foundations, and they all do this.

This is the only application routine I can do without it fucking up:

> Wash face with Cetaphil
> Moisturize with half CeraVe + aloe gel mix
> Wait a few minutes
> Apply Elf's mineral primer
> Wait a few minutes
> Apply concealer
> Pat on translucent powder over concealer
> Wait a few minutes
> Apply CC cream
> Set with powder and Elf's Mist and Set spray

At this point, it's okay; my blemishes are fairly concealed and my skin tone is a bit more even, but if I try to take it a step further and apply foundation, the clumping happens.

How the fuck do I get it to stop clumping?

>>8354783
Normally you don't set your face with anything until you're done foundation as well, so try skipping powdering after your concealer and cc cream next time, and set with powder + spray after you're completely done. That's my guess as to what's making your makeup clump, but sometimes it could also be because one or more of your products just don't mix together. Also, how do you usually apply your foundation? With a brush/fingers/sponge?

>>8354866
I get the same result, even if I apply foundation after primer. I figured having a set layer under the foundation might help.

I usually apply my foundation with a stiple brush. I've done it with a sponge and get the same result. A damp sponge makes it apply okay for maybe half an hour, then it clumps up.

I've tried so many combinations of foundations, primers, and moisturizers. I feel like I have to be missing something.

>>8354783
Are your primer and foundation the same base? Maybe try patting your face with a paper towel after applying the foundation and before setting spray.

Found out that I'm allergic to most foundations so I tried the eye shadow method which works. Sort of. Is it possible I can use this plus BB cream to contour and general cosplay make?

>>8354783
one thing that can help is putting your concealer on AFTER your foundation. The act of putting on foundation actually tends to wipe your concealer away from your blemishes and as a result you need to put on more foundation and so on. Also, are you trying to wear CC cream and foundation? Because it is more of an either/or kind of thing. Also what >>8354866 said. You shouldn't powder your concealer if you are putting it on before your foundation. The powder will make your makeup clumpy and cakey.

My routine if I am wearing concealer
>Clean face
>moisturize
>let the moisturizer soak in
>Primer
>Let that set
>BB cream
>concealer carefully blended in
>blush, contour, eye makeup, etc.
>Powder OR setting spray OR nothing at all. Powder if I am feeling oily, setting spray if it is hot out and I am going to sweat, nothing if it is a normal day and I am not going to be out for more than 4 hours.

I battled with cakey looking makeup all the way into my 20's and the biggest turning point for me was learning to put my concealer on after my foundation. Just about all the makeup videos and advice you will hear says to put it on before, but you really want to get a concealer that is the same color as your foundation and do it after. You will end up needing less concealer and it will do a better job of concealing overall. This obviously does not include tinted concealers like green and yellow, as they will not blend in correctly over your foundation.

>>8354879
IMO, the best applicator for foundation is freshly washed fingers. It is easy to apply too much with sponges and brushes, but that is personal preference.

>>8354921
>>8354926
>make up with fingers better than a brush
>concelear after foundation

I can't even

>>8354997
Many makeup artists use (clean) fingers to apply makeup. Educate yourself.

>>8354997
You're retarded

>>8354879

Hmmm that's weird! Have you tried cutting back your routine to just moisturiser and foundation? If that works out and doesn't clump, keep adding your other steps in and see if there's something in particular that isn't meshing well maybe.

>>8355002
this, makeup artist here. i use the back of my hands and, occasionally (with client permission ofc) my fingers to apply makeup. within reason though, it's not like i'm doing a full face without a single brush. fingers are a pretty good tool for dotting liquid product on so you can blend it back out with a brush.

>>8355050
Of course, I also find it easier to apply eyeshadow and concealer with my fingers. It's not like I don't use brushes (eyeliner, brows, blush etc) but makeup is hardly an exact science.

>>8354997
you should give it a try, then you too can even!

But yes I know, you do literally hear the opposite of what I am saying everywhere, but trust me when I say it is a good way to limit how much product you put on your face. Give it a try, you will see I am not stupid. Of course foundation application is one of those things that you should do the way you feel personally works best, I personally cannot get even application without using my fingers and I don't like how much product is wasted in brushes and sponges.Other people have different results!

The only thing I insist everyone give a chance is concealer over foundation. If you can find a concealer that matches your foundation it is absolutely the way to go!

>>8351936
The liquiset will thin it out the more you add, so don't add too much or it will become too thin. When you do it just use a bit of the magicolor and if it's thick add some liquiset until you're happy with it. Dark brown would be better than black or it will look a bit muddy probably. I don't know the answers to your other questions, but I would check in the help and cosplay threads instead of this one.

>>8354879
What do you mean by "clump"? Any chance you can take a picture and just hide your eyes and nose? Powder always goes last. If you mean "pilling," that's the product balling up underneath your makeup. It would have to do with your moisturizer or primer. You're either applying them too thick, waiting too long for them to dry, or both. If that's not the case, then it may be that the moisturizer is creating a film on your face, in which case you might want to try a different moisturizer. I think the only reason the primer would do that is if it's old or defective, but my bet is on the moisturizer. Have you tried not waiting between applying everything, and not using powder between any steps? I would do that first and if it doesn't work, try a different moisturizer.

If you just mean it looks thick and gross on your face, I would also in the case try a different moisturizer, and just make sure you're only applying a very thin layer of everything.

>>8338019
Too faced makes a glitter glue that I use on my greasy days. Makes it harder to apply the eye-shadow, but once its on, it stays. The glitter glue is very tacky so it's a bit harder to blend, it feels like I have to just pat on my eye-shadow over the entire lid, whereas with the other primers not being so tacky the brush can evenly go over the whole lid. Hope this helps

>>8339622
I used to use bareminnerals face primer, but I got a new foundation and it wouldn't stick to bare minerals very well, I think it was due to the primer being mainly silicone based and my foundation being water based. Now I use smashbox photo finish primer water, its in a spritzy bottle. Its pretty nice, I have somewhat sensitive skin and its never pissed off my face. Price is lame, so every once in a while I'll try a different primer in a sample size, but none ever work too well. My best 2nd place primer is benefit porefessional

ok so if i do anything remotely bold/thick with my eyeliner, after a few hours i find that it rubs off a little and makes a dark line above the crease of my eyelid? It sort of looks like i tried to line the crease of my eyelid with a dark eyeliner but I missed and it's up too far.

Is this just a matter of using cheap eyeliner? Not using primer?

>>8355359
Seconding this, I have the same problem, even when I use a primer (Too Faced Shadow Insurance) and fancy eyeliner (Stila waterproof). It makes it a lot better, but doesn't totally fix it.

So what are peoples thoughts on under eye blush? Yay or nay?

>>8355365
If it works for you, yay.

>>8355359
What eyeliner are you using? I find I have this problem with eyeliners, especially ELF brand ones. But I switched to Jordana's 12 Hour Made to Last eyeliner (gel pencil) and NYC High Definition Liquid liner (liquid pen) and haven't had a single issue. I find that I have to prime my eye and apply either Nyx jumbo pencil or eyeshadow to keep the NYC liquid in place but I also have oily eyelids so that's to be expected. The Jordana stuff (Milani makes an identical product but I can't remember the name) is like a godsend, though. I have worn it without primer or shadow underneath, and it never budges once it sets (even on my worst watery eye allergy days, and even through crying).

Check to see how many of your products have dimethicone/silicone in them. Applying too many products with silicone in them on top of each other often causes makeup to "clump." CC and BB creams usually aren't intended to be worn with a primer underneath so this may be your problem. Like others suggested, don't put powder on under your foundation; powder always goes on after all foundation has been applied.

You could be trying to apply too much product--use no more than a pea size amount of primer, rub it in with your fingertips. The same goes for foundation--try dotting small amounts along your forehead, chin, cheeks, and nose, and then blend out with a dry makeup sponge. It's always easier to apply more as needed than to try to take excess off.

You may also be using too heavy a moisturizer before your makeup and/or not letting it sink in long enough before applying your makeup. A lightweight gel moisturizer is usually best before makeup application, but if you don't let your skin absorb the moisturizer it doesn't matter what product you use. You may want to try waiting maybe 15 minutes between your skincare and your makeup to see if that makes a difference. If you don't exfoliate, exfoliating your skin will help, too.

If none of this works, you may want to try using a cream or powder foundation instead of liquid.

>>8355423
Damn, I meant to reply to >>8354783

I want to start using make up, but I don't really know how to. I already bought it with a friend help, but I feel kinda abusive to ask her to teach me. Any starter tips will be pretty apreciated.
P.S. Sorry for my crappy english, not my first language. Also, I'm a male.

>>8355425
>but I feel kinda abusive to ask her to teach me

>>8355404
I use Revlon's ColorStay liquid eye pen. It goes on really nicely and I have no complaints about it except for that it rubs off a bit. I do also have fairly oily eyelids. I think my best bet might be to try using a primer, but I'll definitely look into Jordana or NYC. Thanks for the suggestions!

>>8355365
Mostly yay on it but if it's for casual every day makeup I'd suggest you don't:
>over-do it by adding on a lot
>use a severe/vivid shade of blush
>apply it all over your eye area

But I can understand doing the above for theater/cosplay/lolita though or for trying to replicate BJD makeup so that's where I'll forgive it.

>>8354783
In my experience that always happens to me with ELFs primers. My foundation always breaks up around my chin, never happens with any other primer.

>>8335011
I'm sorry that is just not true. The pre-raphaelites painted in the 1800s at which time the "church" would have little to no control over artists.

Rossetti who painted that particular peice of art had many favored female models whom he choose for their particularly masculine beauty. Several of them he had affairs with (Elizabeth Siddal, Fanny Cornforth and Jane Morris).

Yeah so that sounds like some sort of meme tumblr historical "fact".

>>8355425
Try looking at tutorials on youtube. First look for ones that have the look you're going for(natural or drag or something else) and then see if you can find people of the same ethnicity as you. Ask here if you're having trouble with that.

>>8355430
no bully

What's the deal with Jeffree Star makeup? People keep kicking these videos onto my facebook feed, and something about this guy is so intensely punchable.

How would I go about ordering make up overseas? Specifically, I'm wanting to get a hold of BB Cream from Korea, since the stuff you buy in America is just thin, wet foundation. Any advice?

>>8356647
There are tons of online stores dedicated to Korean and Japanese skincare / cosmetics. Google around and you'll find them. Just watch out for counterfeits.

>>8355359
I have this problem. For me, its a combination of oily eye lids and hooded/deepset eyes.

I've had success using primer (for me nothing beats Urban Decay's Eye Primer Potion).

>>8354897
What specifically are you allergic too? BB creams could contain the same material in your foundation.

>>8356647
Roseroseshop is a nice website for asian skincare/makeup. Ebay is also a good place to get them, providing if you check the seller ratings and make sure it's sold from Korea.

Amazon is also good if you want it quickly, but only buy it from Prime sellers. Amazon takes skincare/makeup sellers, among other categories (like wine and alcohols) very seriously, and will most of the time, prime sellers will not sell fakes. It'll probably be somewhat more expensive than ebay or RRS if you buy it off of Amazon, but you'll at least get it faster if that's of priority.

RRS: Cheap, and safe but shipping is expensive, and usually takes a somewhat long time.
Ebay: Generally cheap, have to check on sellers to be safe, shipping is usually cheap or free. Make sure to cross reference prices to be sure it's not too good to be true.
Amazon: Usually more expensive, generally safe if the seller is prime, very fast shipping time. (especially if you have prime.)

>>8351936
Before you do anything else, decide what your design to look like. Are you going to just paint your face red? Are you going to exaggerate your features at all? Look online, there are lots of people who have done devil face paints before. Using them for inspiration, mix and match what you like from each design.

Next, get comfortable using your paints. For cake make-up, you'll want to use a combination of sponges and brushes as the make-up packaging suggested. You can use make-up sponges (those triangular shaped sponges at every drug store/beauty store). I learned to face paint with potter's sponges cut in half (you can find them at craft stores, they're circle shaped sponges that are less dense than make-up sponges). I also learned to paint with acrylic/watercolor paintbrushes (also found at craft stores). This is mostly for line work, so if you're not planing on doing any harsh lines, you probably don't need them. I've seen people do neat things combined liquid make-up with cake make-up, so if you're feeling fancy, you can use the Magicolour as the "water" to wet your cake make-up. Otherwise, wet your sponge, wring most of the water out of the sponge and rub it across the cake until you pick up the pigment. Use a patting motion (called stippling) rather than a smearing or sweeping motion to get a more uniform texture.

It is definitely useful to have more than one shade, although I probably would have gone for black, brown, or blue to do the shading. The different shades of red are going to be more subtle and harder to see.

I'm not familiar with liquidset, and I can't see what the applicator look like, but personally I'd just use it to set your makeup once you're done rather than mixing it while you're painting.

Whatever you do, please seal your paint so you're not rubbing red paint off on everyone you meet!

>>8355587
Wasn't there a few gulls who said they wore it daily?

>>8356715
I'm not sure yet. I'm trying to go back to the dermatologist to double check. I'll repost once I narrow it down. I was hoping that BB creams wouldn't contain the same materials but I was wrong.

>>8355934
Will do, do you have any recommendation?
Also, I haven't seen any maked up boy anywhere near I live.

>>8358076
it depends on your skin type and color. for a broad question like that, it may be better to ask google what the differences in foundations are.

>>8356615
Don't know if his makeup is any good, but he's a douche.

Pic related. He sent this to a 15-year-old girl because she posted some fan shit about him and Tila Tequila.

>>8356615
He's a MySpace scene queen from forever ago who still maintains a strong internet following. Professionally he's a makeup artist and recently came out with a line of liquid to matte lipsticks. They happen to be a very nice product and I think most people like them because they can dupe a lot of the Velvetines from Limecrime.

I personally think he looks beautiful and love makeup personalities with an alternative look. Though you aren't alone quite a few people think he's 'punchable'. It's all up to preferences, Darling.

>>8356615
His matte lipsticks are great. While I don't care for his self obsessed posts on Instagram or his rabid fan base I'll take it over Limecrime.

>>8359450
There are other matte liquid lipsticks. LA splash has crazy colors and it's cheaper for example.

>>8340386
Urban Decay's 24/7 pencils are great. I haven't tried them through considerable wear and tear, but I like the pencil because I'm retarded with a brush despite a fair amount of practice. Wore it all night, didn't budge, plus, it goes on super smooth. They also have a bunch of colors if you want to go a little crazy.

>>8338182
>>8338123
>>8335412
>>8335380
a gallon jug of water is overkill. you can google how much water you need based on weight, too. i'd recommend that. obviously a small woman that doesn't exercise doesn't need the same amount of water as a huge construction worker.

Okay, not technically makeup, but under the same umbrella: Nails.

I want to starting painting my nails, yet I'm unsure where to begin with the base and top coats. I got some cheap stuff from a drugstore a long time ago and when I applied the top coat (nails were dry) it smeared the crap out of the cute watermelon design I was trying to do. It was really disheartening.

What are the best brands for top and base coats? Or what are some good websites and resources to get me started?

>>8363624

You might have more luck in the new nail thread (>>8363615), but I'll answer anyway:

I like OPI's base coat, and I use quick dry top coats (my current fav is Seche Vite, although not everyone loves it.) Seche requires you to apply the top coat while the polish is still wet, but dries to hard within a few minutes.

For complicated nail art, I highly recommend doing quick dry top coats in between layers of polish. So for example with your watermelon: base coat, pink/red (however many layers you want to do), quick dry top coat, green, top coat, black seeds, top coat.

Sometimes I still get my designs smeared, but I kind of know what colors will smear by now and which ones will stay. I also kind will save the colors I know to smear for last (so for example, I just did nails with a black geometric design down the center. Rather than apply my top coat with a stroke down the middle then a stroke on either side, I applied the strokes on the side first, then down the middle. It lets the polish dry alittle longer and it minimizes the area that the black can be smeared on.)

Lots of nail art is just trial and error though. Best of luck.

If nobody has tried them, you should try out these ~$1 "MeNow" liquid lipsticks on eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beauty-Makeup-Waterproof-Liquid-Lip-Gloss-Matte-Lipstick-Lip-Pen-Long-Lasting-/151682868488?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item235100e508

After finding out the ingredients were fine, I ordered about 4 of them. The colors are really nice, but the finish is definitely sticky. Like, lips-stuck-together sticky.

Putting some translucent powder or chapstick can make the stickiness, for the most part, go away, but these things stay through fucking everything. Through swimming, eating, and kissing all in the same ~2hrs.

While they are a bit sticky if you put on too much, I think they're a great deal for only like $1. You can buy literally all avaliable colors, (like $33) and have it cost around the same as two mid-tier lipsticks, or one high-tier.

>>8363657
Do they transfer? I like staying power, but I don't want my lipstick ending up on everything.

>dammit captcha a hamburger is not a sandwich.

>>8363659
Well, they didn't transfer when kissing while swimming, so it might be safe to say they're transfer proof for the most part.

I think they might have transferred a bit when drinking, though. I can't necessarily remember. I could probably test it if you want.

>>8363680
Hey for $1 I'll take you at your word. Thanks anon.

>>8363657
YOU NEGLECTED TO MENTION THE FREE SHIPPING GIVE ME ALL OF THEM.

>>8363691
Yeah, that was my same exact response. They take a long ass time to get to you, though, since they're sent from China.

Honestly, I forgot about them and it was like a little surprise to myself.

This sounds gross but I have very oily skin and no foundation has ever worked for me so I'd like to venture into high end stuff so I don't look gross all the time. Does anyone else with oily skin want to share their basic makeup? I've heard good things about Make Up Forever but I want to be sure it's not going to make me look disgusting as soon as I leave the door. Also, is Urban Decay's mattifying powder worth it? I've heard mixed reviews from other oily skin people.

>>8363657
What? Anon, these are cheap unbranded lipsticks from China. You don't know WHAT are in these, and text on a box is proof of nothing.

Okay, anon here that's basically a Newbie to makeup. I don't even know how to buy foundation. I only own Two-Faced Coco Powder foundation (In light), but it's my exact skin tone. (I had to ask someone in store to help me figure that out) Unfortunately, it's 34 bucks for this small 11g compact. Does anyone have any advice on finding another, cheaper foundation? I'm kinda at a loss, and I find foundations, concealers, etc rather overwhelming.

I do fine with stuff that's not supposed to be subtle like your lipsticks, eyeshadows, and mascaras.

>>8364417
Well, they technically are branded. Regardless, I'll still use them, albeit not all every day because I have other shit. I'll let you know if I begin growing a third arm or die in the middle of the day.

>>8363706

Oh man it's been a journey, but for girls like us primer is essential to the rest of your makeup looking good throughout the day.

I use smashbox's primer (the variant for oily skin) and urban decay's deslick variant of their setting spray.

There are also some toners that will suck the oil right out of your face for most of the day.

GL!

Does anyone have suggestions for pastel matte lip sticks? Like greys, lavenders, ect.

>>8354997
how did you not know youre supposed to put concealer on after? and therre are definitely benefits to just using your fingers to apply foundation. i prefer to use brushes but like SlowMope said, its a preference.

>>8359450
if youre worried about his drama then why would you think limecrime is any better? its not exactly a brand with a sterling reputation.

Has anyone ever tried to make their own foundation?

>>8334750
Don't do what you see in this picture. This makeup is for girls with delicate features.

I forgot to comment earlier.

I can't say my face is quite Florence Welsh. I always thought I had a man face but other people tell me otherwise. (I'm no delicate flower, that is for sure.)

Anyhow. lips I find are the single best thing to accentuate when nature gifted you with strong bones to say the least. Seriously, look up man faces, you'll find they all wear lip stick most the time.

Wine works best for me but experiment. Some prefer plum, pink, or peach. I use a lip stain pencil instead of lip gloss.

Do not line your eyes completely with eyeliner. It only serves to make us look more manly and rugged. Eyeliner on the top lid will suffice. Same goes for eyeshadow. Keep eyeshadow on the lighter side as well. Blacks, deep blues, and plums sometimes just make a "man face" look harsh. (Now, unless your particular eye shape dictates otherwise. Most man faces have plenty large enough eyes though.)

I find I hate contouring and highlight makeup with shimmer. Angular features + shimmer just end up highlighting the wrong areas. Same with contouring, even minimal contouring will look drag queen like. I like plain matte foundation. Unless your skin is really dry/ashy, I'd stay away from moisturizing. I look far less manly sans the shiny.

Long, big hair. I rocked short hair for years but I couldn't argue when someone piped, "It kind of makes you look like a teenage pretty boy.". Hair that falls about 2 inches or more past the chin flatters more then short pixies, pageboys, or bobs. Big hair is even better. It softens prominent angles. Make sure any layers do not fall directly on/at the cheek bone, bottom of chin, or that area where you chin meets the neck/face only because then it will bring attention to exactly those areas.

Unless you have long face and not man face or both. Do not wear long hair past the chin with an extremely long face, it will only accentuate it.

>>8366294
>While I don't care for his self obsessed posts on Instagram or his rabid fan base I'll take it over Limecrime.

>I'll take it over Limecrime.

not even the anon you replied to, but reading isn't that hard.

So when it comes to Lolita and makeup (lips in particular) do you guys go gradient lips or just a gloss solid color?

>>8366692
I think this is a little much...I just pick a color that works for the makeup/dress for the day and apply a little bit of gloss. Might work for more OTT coords though.

>>8366692
I do gradients, but usually only up to the amount in pic 4 and some clear gloss over it.

For about two years I've been layering maybelline's rocket volume and mega plush volume mascara. the rocket volume actually curls my super straight lashes a bit, and i feel like eyelash curlers themselves don't really work for me. i DO really want to do falsies as daily thing, but i've never been able to put them on. i've done individual eyelash extensions professionally and at home, and while i like the look, it's way too hard not to get them wet, and they pull out my real lashes.

does anyone have tips for maybe better mascara or for falsies? i'm afraid of trying out falsies, because the inside corner always seems to pop off for me, and since i waitress, it'd be pretty much impossible to fix during my shift and SUPER embarrassing if a customer saw. also unsanitary if it fell off...

>>8367013
You can do half falsies - just from the middle to the outer corner, or just trim the falsies. There are lots of more natural options that should be comfortable enough to wear all day.

As for mascara I actually really like Pixi's Lash Booster. I also do the gossmakeupartist trick.

>>8366692

I want to, but I always end up eating my lipstick at some time during the day.

>>8341563
Actually, drugstore brands have really kicked it up a notch, and with so many foundations out there, there are many that are as good, if not better, than high-end foundations. Similar to mascaras. It takes a bit of researching and testing to find what works best for your skin tone/type/preference, but once you do you end up saving so much money.

>>8363706
Primers are your friend anon! I'm gross and oily too and I've found that primer helps my foundation stay put. I use the benefit porefessional, which is more of a pore cover but works good as a primer too, and Étude Houses light face conditioner. That might not work for you though, it's pretty moisturising and might make you look even more oily! I use it because it's nice to my eczema haha.

If your going into high end foundations, I'm quite found of the Nars All Day Luminous glow foundation. Despite it's name it's more of a satin finish, but it's got a nice formula that works well with oily skin. I'd still get sample of everything you want to try though, to play with the formula and make sure it properly matches your skin tone.

I've been using Missha's BB cream in shade 21 because it fits my skin tone just fine, but I find that sometimes it's a bit too shiny for my liking. What other Asian BB cream brands can I look into? Will pore primer help? I also have matte setting spray but it's Ben Nye spray that I use for cosplay and I think it's a bit overkill to use for every day makeup.

Hey,
first time posting in /cgl/. I made a thread but people told me to ask here.
I'm 22, I never wore makeup in my entire life (except for once in middlescool and that wasn't applied by myself) and I'm basically a shut-in. I have ZERO experience with makeup.
But I want to look pretty until menopause kicks in. And since my hobbies are only watching anime and playing videogames I'd really like to look the part of a "fake gamer girl" that people get so upset about.
I look like a drowned corpse and my hair is greasy as fuck, my skin looks unhealthy but at least I'm rather skinny. So I think I could pull off the lana rain look.

Anyone here willing to give me absolute beginner's advice.
I already learned that I need to buy bb cream and that bleaching my hair might make me go bald, but I'm willing to take that risk.

>>8367329
I feel like BB cream and eyeliner are the only things you need to pull off an everyday makeup look. And as for learning how to do makeup, honestly Google is your best friend. I didn't start doing makeup until about a year ago when I first started doing cosplay, and it was just a bunch of trial and error until I figured out what worked and didn't. Looking on bad makeup threads can also give you a heads up on what to avoid.

>>8367333
Oh god. I'm in for a wild ride of shame and self-loathing, aren't I?
I'm willing to take the risk though.

I'm still unable to figure out what seperates cute princess-like makeup like lana rain does it and ugly gross emo chick makeup. Like how do people like lana rain or all the cosplayers manage to look so cute while others look like a clown?

>>8367341
Staying simple stops you from turning into a clown.

Start with BB cream, as mentioned before, and eye liner. Practise every night with a pen liner or even a pencil liner (make sure to wash your face properly before going to bed!!) . Keep at it as part of your everyday make up look. Once you can start drawing on your eye liner without it looking like panda eyes, try liquid eyeliner or whatever works for you.

Then go find some primer/foundation. Going up to make up counters at any departments/sephora and ask the girls to help you find a beginner foundation + correct skin colour/type. Add primer/foundation + eye liner. Try out mascara here as well + get your brows done since you're there.

Feeling more adventurous? Time to try out some eyeshadow! Get a eyelid/shadow primer +some good brushes, get a nice/somewhat cheap palette and practise again and again. And that's all I can really give you since I'm only on the eyeshadow level... Good luck anon, I was the same as you this time last year!

Youtube vids are a saviour during these times!

>>8367352
Thanks a lot for taking the time to write that.
So is eyeliner literally drawing on my eyelids with a pen or brush?
What happens if I accidentally draw on my eyeball?

>>8355801
>Yeah so that sounds like some sort of meme tumblr historical "fact".
thank you, now i don't have to say it.

>>8335011
also i don't know what "raphaelite paintings" are, but please don't mix up the pre-raphaelites and the actual fucking Raphael

>>8367327
Also, am I correct in assuming that satin finish = dewy shiny finish?

>>8367358
You're not going to draw on your eyeball even if you're a compete newbie. Just look up tutorials on how other people do eyeliner and imitate them. Look for tutorials that resemble your eye shape. We can't spoon feed you everything on cgl especially when so much of makeup is trying things for yourself.

>>8367358
No probs anon. There's a couple of types of eyeliner.

Pencil--Exactly like the name says,its a coloured pencil (brown/black). I always had trouble with pencil ones.

Pen-- Its more like a marker/brush. I found that you had to go over several times to keep the colour consistent. I started off with marker.

Liquid-- I graduated from marker to liquid and never looked back. Its a lot darker and I don't have to apply it as much. The one I'm using is from Etude House and it's near impossible to smudge during the day.

If you're scared of drawing on your eyeball, can you keep one eye closed while the other open? (A... really... long wink? What the fuck do you even call that expression?) I suppose if you're really struggling, you can always press down on your eyelashes to keep your eyelid completely closed (don't do this if you already put on your mascara). Always give time for your marker/liquid eyeliner some time to dry before opening your eye.

Probably a ton of beginner problems in my post but if theres any more experienced makeup gurus, please fix my beginner mistakes.

>>8367374
Yeah, it's a bit overwhelming though. Like I said, I hardly know where to start and I never put makeup on myself EVER.
>>8367375
Thanks a lot.
I guess learning makeup will be a hard thing to do.
Like some people look shiny as oiled pigs in makeup, that's kinda gross. I wouldn't want that.
What causes that effect?

>>8367381
Yeah I was scared too anon, but I really wanted to look just as cute as the japanese girls and not be a ita when I was wearing lolita.

I'm not quite sure about that, there is a 'dewy look'that some people do (koreans like that sort of look) but I guess some of them can go overboard.

>>8367329
I'm a total beginner too, and found that this type of eyeliner (liquid with a short, rubber-tipped brush) helped a lot to practice with rather than felt pens. I put a thin line over smudged-out brown pencil liner and it looks decent without needing to be super precise.

>>8366304
Unsuccessfully. Just pay for a good one.

>>8367396
I can't draw straight lines for life so that's how I use eyeliner:
apply eye shadow on your lid (works great with all colors and nude color) and then apply the liquid eyeliner and then as long as the eyeline has not dried yet, quickly proceed to smudge the top edge just a little bit into the eye shadow. Et viola, it looks smooth and not uneven at all. Day saved.

>>8367369
Satin is just kinda shiny, like good satin fabric. Dewey is very shiny, sometimes kind of moist looking? If you want to see nice dewey finishes look at some of the promo material for Korean make up brands. 3CE has some that make the model look wet and it's vaguely unnerving.

If you want to tone down the shininess of your BB cream then just dust some powder over it, use a fluffy brush if you don't want to go overboard. If you want matte BB creams Etude house has the Cotton fit, but I've heard mixed reviews about, and the Perfect Fit, which is more satin and kinda dry on me.

>>8367329
Ayy I got my start in make up on /cgl/ too. Everyone else has given you some good advice already! I'd also like to add that a good mascara can be very helpful for completing looks or just doing simple stuff. On lazy days I just put on bb cream and mascara. Maybelline makes some good ones, I like the full n soft which looks exactly like its name.

For good tutorials, I fully recommend Lisa Eldridge on youtube! She's a professional make up artist but her videos are very easy to follow, and she makes a lot of cute everyday looks as well as more glamorous ones. She also has the most soothing voice in the universe.

>>8366692
Solid colour and gloss
that pic looks like a sore

>>8359961
I love these so much!! I just bought the 24/7 velvet pencil in lush while it was half price and lo and behold, the packaging is already broken after one use.
Anyone know a good way to salvage?

How do you guys fix up your make-up midday? Like, if it starts to look cakey or peel, what do you do to try and damage control?

holy shit.
If you're looking to drop some money on a gel eyeliner, don't use any american/western brands but use Jill Stuart's gel eyeliner.
It's amazing. It's a great dark black, lasts forever, waterproof and really doesnt smudge. It also doesn't irritate or bleed.

>>8368237
sure thing, queen weeaboo
no western brand has ever made an eyeliner that does all that

>>8367996
I just put some more powder on it honestly, it covers most of the patches

Does anyone have a favorite powder sunscreen that comes loose in a pot or compact? I have one that comes out through an attached brush but I don't like it much because I can't tell how much product I'm using and whether or not it's giving me enough to be protective, and the brush isn't as soft as I like.

>>8368336
powder would just make it look even more cakey and make the peeling more obvious.

>>8367170
That is true. I'm an "extreme couponer" and often get make up like Physicians Formula for $2. Combine that with CVS and ULTA's good makeup return policy and I don't have much, if anything, to lose. There's just something about spending $25 on a bottle of foundation that makes me feel worth it.

>>8352024
Corn starch

Best boy/bishounen cosplay makeup tutorials? (For a girl going to cosplay a boy). Everything I find is over the top harsh contouring or bad 5 o clock shadow, so anyone have any favorite video tutorials?
Thank you!

Bumping with an embarrassingly newbie question, but one that has been bugging me for years.

What makes a makeup 'good'? I used to rely on internet reviews all the time, and still do for a good portion of my makeup, but all in all, I've found that relying on reviews are hit or miss. I've bought some supposedly best eyeliner that smeared within an hour, and foundations that made me look like a powdery cake because it was so dry.

Now I have some makeup which have received meh reviews online, and personally, I find the makeup to be quite the opposite of what reviews say (e.g. 'this makeup is hard to apply' while I thought it was quite easy to).

I'm just really curious - is it an individual thing, or are there definite objective guidelines for what makes makeup good? Or better yet, am I just really bad with makeup? It's been several years and honestly I still have no idea what I'm doing sometimes.

I've got my eye on Missha M Signature Real Complete BB, but I feel like I'm in between shades too much. I'm in between no.23 and no.27. 27 is a bit too orange for me. Will I be safe with 23?

>>8368237
Fucking weeb.

Just use this.

>>8375843
drugstore brand

no. you don't have to use weeb shit but no.

veil cover cream, good, bad, ok? any experience with it? i have oily skin but need a heavy foundation

>>8375860
>>8375843
Not all drugstore makeup is shit. That's pretty decent gel liner actually.

I just recently got a job and after years of using mostly drug store makeup, I'm ready to splurge at the local sephora.
I have a soft spot for Too Faced (I own their chocolate bar palette and adore it, been eyeing those heart blushes forever) and I've had a few sephora mascaras that I loved. I'm pretty pale and have freckles, dark colors tend to make me look really trashy. What're your favorite Sephora products?? Are Kat Von D's skin makeup (concealer, foundation, etc) worth the purchase? What's your favorite mascara/lipgloss/brow product that can be bought at Sephora?
>pic related

>>8375888
>>8375860
>>8375843

Yeah, that gel liner is actually really fucking good. Don't pass on something just because it's drugstore-- some of them are just as good, or even better, than mid to high end shit.

>>8375923
Kat Von D's foundation is pretty universally loved, I haven't used it though. You can ask for a sample at sephora to try first before splurging.

I've got a a ton of freckles and the costume I'm doing has very clear skin. What's the best thing to cover that up?

>>8375940
Glamoflage concealer by hard candy. It'll even cover tattoos.

>>8352024
I use those small sheets of rice paper they sell in the makeup section of diaso to blot. I've seen them in high end makeup stores too but are way over priced there.

>>8375338
Definitely a personal thing. What works for a person with dry skin probably won't work well for oily skin.

For example, I have very oily eyelids, so whenever I see reviews like "BEST EYELINER EVAR" I always do a little more research to see what kind of people are using it.

I think that there is certainly a certain amount of quality that comes with a higher price tag (I will never understand people who like things from Wet and Wild, that stuff seems like such crap to me), but don't worry about what's "good". Look for stuff that works for you.

>>8376091

Wet n Wild's strongest product IMO is the Fergie eyeshadow primer. Comparable to UDPP on me, and I have moderate to greasy hooded lids such that I can't wear even waterproof eyeliner without a fully primed eye area.

Basically everything else feels like crap, though, you're right. Can't stand their lipsticks, and even their loose glitter is notably boring next to others I own.

>>8375923
anastasia's brow products are god tier. lancome makes a good mascara remover while urban decay makes a great mascara. But 75% of how good a mascara is lies in its wand, and because they dry out fast it's usually better to buy drugstore mascaras. For lipgloss, bite & nars are good. For me, the Kat Von D foundation didn't work--I'm pale w/ freckles and it was too red for me and my skin is dry, so the foundation really didn't sit nicely on my skin. But YMMV, and foundations are definitely something that you sample and check in as many light sources as you can.

>>8375860
>makeup elitist

>>8376127
I like their blushes and their eyeliners, as well as some of their lipsticks with primer. I use my nice stuff for cosplay though.

>>8376127
Dang, thanks for that heads up. My UDPP is a godsend, and little tube has lasted a long time, but I'll take a cheaper alternative!

>>8375860
Sound like we have an elitist twat over here.

Real though, I use drugstore and offbrand almost everything and find amazing dupes for stuff like Sugarpill in quads for a buck.

As far as brand name, always splurge on primers and foundation. That stuff touches your skin.

Do whitening bb creams actually whiten skin? Or is it just bullshit?

>>8367996
I use a water spray, or sometimes powder and then spray. I would rather look less "covered" than cakey and dry.

>>8376749
they work like a low level chemical peel.

>>8376749
Sort of. If they have the right ingredients they can stimulate cell turnover, which will lighten acne scars & any other hyperpigmentation. But no, they don't really make you whiter (although the SPF contained in most bb creams may actually stop you from getting darker).

>>8376749
They do work. Once you know what it looks like you can always tell when an Asian uses it. It just evens and brightens out the top of your skin.

>>8375843
I'm about 1/3 the way on this, my only qualm is I wish it were blacker.. I feel bad for my pens & kohl, this was my first gel and I think I might only use gel now, if not try different brands.

>>8375860
What's wrong with it? Was pretty pleased, is there something I should try next?

>>8376173

I made this for you anon. Others have also made the comparison so you could shop around for reviews.

>>8377062
Target was sold out of the maybelline when I went so I picked this up instead, I actually like it more and it's very black.

hi there everyone. Im in need of some scar/birthmark covering make up help. I have been afraid to cosplay any character with a bare mid drift because of my birthmark on my stomach. I dont know a lot about makeup but any advice would help. or better yet, if anyone knows a character with a long scar in a similar spot, let me know. also if you or someone you know has a similar 'birthmark' please tell me. my mom swears its not a scar from a conjoined twin or anything but im hesitant to believe her. thanks.

Last few weeks I've been going to bed at 10-11pm and I can't sleep. I'll wake up throughout the night and stay awake for hours. Now it looks like some sleep demon has punched me in the face. I've tried regular concealer, but even that doesn't hide it, and I have to go to a costume party in a few days without my glasses on. Halp anons.

Anyone have any recommendations on a foundation for a very pale face? I've never been able to find one pale enough. Any recommendations extremely welcome.

>>8377625
omg

>>8377132
Wow, thanks so much! You're the best anon. May your eyeshadow stay blended and uncreased all day.

Any recs for drugstore-brand makeup matte-fying powder? I feel like my BB cream makes me too shiny.

Any good concealer reccomendations? I'm mostly looking to cover acne/acne scars, my under eyes are fine. I have oily, warm toned skin. I was using one of those maybelline cover sticks before but those suck ass and I've used them for like 4 years. I don't mind spending up to $20 if it's good, but I've never used a kind with a brush before.

I bought Tarte's Light Camera Lashes mascara off of ebay. It came today and it has a pretty strong smell. It's almost like dirt and paint. Should I be worried?

was the skincare thread deleted or just bumped off? all i wanted to ask was which kind of sunblock everyone uses. a face one and a body one that isn't scented. i hate how the even the unscented ones smell like something and mask my perfume/body spray.

>>8377982
I used Covergirl's unscented pressed powder for a while, it did the job. ELFs hd powder has fucking glitter in it though

>>8378232
You could try going to Sephora or a department store and getting a bunch of samples

>>8381451
Shiseido

>>8376146
which sephora foundations do work for you? I have similar skin (but also with dry patches) and I have a little trouble finding one that works.

>>8377982
>>8381461
I use ELF's HD powder, but make sure you get the clear version, not the shimmer.

Has anyone tried beauty blender knockoffs? I once bought a pink one off of ebay for a dollar or so and I think it worked well but I'm a bit concerned about the material. Buying chinese knockoffs of makeup or makeup accessories is generally an awful idea, but I really don't want to spend so much money on sponges (the drying time of it is awful and I have super acne prone skin so I'd need a few of them for daily use)

Anyway, does you know of any reputable beauty blender knock off brands? Korean or otherwise, doesn't matter.

>>8383209
sure, etude house has some marshmallow thing

>>8335239
this advice, anon, has made my dry skin so much better. i still have a small problem though.

my bloody nose wings get so damn dry and flaky regardless of what i do.

are there any anons who have recommendations for spot treating dryness?

what is the best way to find out what BB cream to get that goes with my skintone?
I'm mixed so my skin changes color a lot based on how much I go outside, which due to my job is a lot. Should I be safe and get two shades?

>>8377657
Have you tried Glamoflague? It's a heavy duty concealer, I use it for my dark bags and they go away.

It's so heavy duty that it can cover 90% of tattoos, if it covers tattoos then it should work from your sleep demon injury

>>8383458

I'm so glad it was helpful. It really changed how I feel about my face.

Sometimes I put eye cream on dry-to-cracking spots around my nose, these happen when I have a cold and have to blow my nose a lot. It's extra gentle for eye-area skin and often more dense than other moisturizers. But that could just be superstition and I don't have a brand recommendation. :/

>>8377663
I've heard kat von d has a pretty pale shade. I've also heard good things about Nars's stuff.

>>8377625
Huh! My boyfriend has the same kind of a birthmark, in a line a little higher on his chest. He has no idea what it is/what caused it, though.

>>8380175
mine isn't really strong but that's exactly like how mine smells if that helps. definitely...different than my other mascaras.

>>8377663

Illamasqua makes a downright white foundation that can be mixed with any of their beige shades to make spectacularly ultra-pale if needed. This could get pricy though and requires mixology on your part.

>>8386257
I can't decide whether I love or hate Nars because of the fucking retarded names they have for their makeup shades
>Orgasm
>69
>Deepthroat
>DP Anal Annihilation
>Bukkake Destruction
>Scat Gangbang

>>8383209
I got one from either TJ Maxx or Marshall's for like $4, it works very well (although I say that having not used a real beauty blender.)

>>8376127
Pasty girl here. I tried Fergie's fairest BB Cream in A101 Light because it was cheap and cruelty free and I was hopeful and it made me look like a tan Hispanic girl. The cream itself also had the grossest smell like stale maple syrup. I wouldn't recommend this bb cream to my worst enemy.

>>8380175
if you bought it from ebay then it could be a brand fake.

>>8387866
>le I'm so pale meme

>>8383458
Try Neosporin for Eczema, it has always helped me when my facial skin gets very dry and starts to crack.

>>8387885
How is being pale a meme?

>>8387821
I kekd.

>>8377134
>>8377062
>>8375843

Get clinique's gel pot liner. It is amazing.

My favourite foundation for cosplay was discontinued, did anyone else use Natureluxe silk foundation by Covergirl? For a foundation by Covergirl, it felt so good (fresh?) and didn't dry out my skin at all. I'm not finding anything similar now. It's pretty disheartening to find the one that suits you and then poof, it's gone.

>>8387821
Make up and nail polish names are always silly as fuck, why is this?

>>8386115
Still need a reply for this pls

>>8388680
get the BB that's in your darker shade for your dark days and then mix a dab of it with your normal facial moisturizer on your lighter days. the moisturizer should lighten the BB.

Has anyone tried out the Monostat anti-chafing gel = Smashbox photofinish primer dupe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMg5J7x1VLw

I gave it a shot and was quite pleased with the results - though this is coming from someone who is not terribly experienced with primers/makeup in general. What are ya'lls thoughts?

Just jumping in to give some western make up recs, I have used Asian brands in the past but we've never really got on.

Eyeliner-wise, I would use Eyeko all the way, specifically the Visual-eyes one but it looks like they don't stock it anymore. Also used the Skinny one and its pretty great. Really intense black colour and doesn't smudge at all, even on my oily lids. The brown is also really nice, not as opaque as the black but not noticeable really unless someone is right up in your face. The only eyeliner I've ever re-purchased (four times now)

For a light but buildable foundation, BareMinerals Complexion Rescue is pretty great. I have combination, erring to the oily side, skin and I haven't broken out at all using this, my skin has looked better even. Would recommend setting it, even if it's not part of your routine though as it can move about a bit, and you will still need a concealer to cover up darker/more obvious blemishes (Collection lasting perfection concealer is pretty great). It's also definitely worth going to a makeup counter and getting colour-matched as well, as it'd be a pretty expensive mistake to go too dark or too light.

Smashbox do really nice lipsticks as well. Currently have Latte Matte and Primrose from the Be Legendary collection, both really smooth and easy to apply, the matte one isn't too drying and doesn't make your lips look cracked and manky. Primrose is definitely a 'your lips but better' shade, very pretty with a very slight satin shine, and Latte is very on trend with the whole Kylie Jenner 90s nude lip deal.

what do I look for in brow products? I have no idea what the difference between my h%m eyebrow pen and high end stuff is. how do I judge what is the good stuff? what are brow products even really supposed to do?

>>8392133
Well do you know how people fill in their brows all boxy and dark with a sharpie? Yeah that's not the goal. Sculpting you brow is supposed to give them a natural look that frames your look. I just use toupee eyeshadow and a precision brush tbh but pencils and whatnot look fine too. Your supposed to shape them to look even and clean and then lightly fill them in so they don't look patchy. Pic related is how you measure. I definitely think this is and important step to any makeup look because it just makes everything so much more put together and glamorous.

>>8388246

it's one person who has a weird hate boner on people who complain about being pale.

I've been using this spray by Koh Gen Do a lot lately. I'm going on trip soon and I'll be taking a plane, and I can't bring it with me because it is aerosol. Any recommendations for a similar non-aerosol product? I wish they just made a non-aerosol spray version.....

bampu desu

LASH question

>I wear lashes daily, they last about 1 and a half to 2 weeks before I have to bin them any recommendations?

>I read some posts about Dolly lashes in the thread, are they really worth the money? I'd like to know more about them if possible

>what lashes would you recommend for daily wear?

pic unrelated, just wanted to grab your eye with something cute.

I bought abh dipbrow and i am not truly pleased with the product, i prefer this cheap wet'nwild powder brow stuff more actually

i'm bummed i wasted my money on it, also bought the brow brush with the spooly on it. though it is a nice tool it's too overpriced for the product

>>8390636
ohh, thank you!!

>>8396455
I have this Missha eyebrow pencil with a spoolie on the other end, it's rather nice and cheap. The consistency is quite creamy and it stays put all day.

I've found a new way to do my eyebrows. They're naturally light and sparse and this makes them look (mostly) natural without that drag/'eyebrows on fleek' look.
>take angled eyebrow brush
>grab a wee bit of the product from the pencil with it and go over your natural brows as necessary
>shape with q-tip if they're smudged or messy, don't go overboard and make them thicker than they are because that'll just make it obvious
>fill in missed spots with eyebrow pencil, if any
>go over the middle of the eyebrow, just before the arch, with the pencil lightly to make it a bit darker
>alternatively, take a bit of mid-brown (in my case, if you're light blonde you may need a light brown) eyeshadow and brush it over the middle part of the eyebrow just a tad to create dimension
>go over your brows with eyebrow mascara close to your natural colour, I use Etude House myself
>if there's any mess, clean it up with a Q-tip
>apply translucent powder
>spray a spoolie with a wee bit of hairspray and brush back your brows
>if your brows are too white/powdery apply more brow mascara
Hope it'll help anyone with a similar problem, I've seen some people ask about it here.

ABH Brow Wiz is my favourite eyebrow pencil of allllll time.
Hate the Dipbrow.. Auburn isn't even auburn :(

Benefit They're Real and Smashbox Full Exposure are my two all time fav mascaras.

For face, Benefit Porefessional (even if you don't need a primer this shit works magic. It seriously covers my pores without even looking like I put something on my face)

BareMinerals Mineral Veil is great setting powder. Nars makes the best liquid concealer.

A Beauty Blender is also a great investment. Over the top expensive but they work great!
A good blush is always good to have also.. I recommend Nars

Clinique Daily Facial Moisturizer is a good one. They also have good concealers.

>>8334254
I have dry, extremely pale and sensitive skin. Smashbox BB Cream in Fair works great for me. They also used to have a great tinted moisturizer that was even better but I believe they discontinued it a while back.

Good luck!

Suggestions on a full coverage liquid foundation that comes in a fair color with pink undertones?

>>8388675
>wearing Scat Gangbang r/n