/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8364267

>>8364269

How could I coord this skirt I made in an otome way?
>>8361533
>>8361544
I am kinda fat (and busty) which makes it a bit harder I think.

>>8364278
I'd go for a MILK style coord for that skirt, given their skirts look to be made the same way, same length.

I'd pair it with a simple peter pan collared blouse in ivory or white, a pastel coloured cardigan (mint?), a necklace, a girly hair accessory (a bow barette or head bow), some cute ankle socks and whatever shoes suit.

>>8364756
Some more to give you some ideas

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>>8364256
This might be a stupid question but are there any good European or American brand places that have potentially otome skirts? I like a lot of modcloth skirts and some of them struck me as otome potential but I don't want to make a rookie mistake using it and making a notome coord.

>>8364789
Cath Kidston is pretty otome-able

I impulse bought this dress in Silver. Originally wanted green but already sold out in my size.

>>8364789
I think Miss Patina make some very otome-able items.

>>8364278
Warning: I can't actually dress myself

>>8364756
Thanks.
>>8364841
Cute, anon! Is the "in tan" one a blouse or a cardigan? Where can I find it - looks very cute.

>>8364848
It's a cardigan. I have an almost identical one from
http://shop34397538.taobao.com

>>8364814
I really love their prints, but really underwhelmed with the design.

and all that puckering in the bodice...
would not spend over 200

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>>8364762
Sauce on that skirt??

>>8365087
It's one of MILK's constellation pieces. I don't remember the actual series name.

Anyone have any tips for someone with a fairly hourglass figure? Dresses are never the right shape and regular cardigans make me look like a slouchy potato sack so my only option seems to be skirt+blouse.

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>>8365103
It would be good to know what exactly you're having issues with, and what you're wanting your silhouette to achieve.

I would have thought most dresses would be flattering on an hourglass figure, so long as it cinches at the waist and has enough give in the bust region.

I try to go for cardigans that end and taper at my waist, otherwise it can look very slovenly. You could always try boleros as well.

>>8365132

>>8365140

>>8365103
I think I'm hourglass, though I have a reasonably narrow/ elongated frame overall so it might be different for you, but Jane Marple tends to be quite quite accommodating for larger cup sizes, and their dans le salon is a little bigger too.

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>>8365138
I have a large bust in relation to my waist (34-26 or 34-24 depending on whether I wear shapewear) so the waistband on most dresses sits on my ribcage and makes me look very strange. I find most stuff to have too square a bodice. If there's anything with a notably low waist I could probably do something with it!

>>8365179
I have the same measurements as you and I'm not too bothered by it. Are you just not used to higher waists/ empire waists? I like them myself. They're usually meant to be like that, but it could be a problem with straps too, you could try lengthening them.

>>8365179
Although I will say unshirred emily temple cute boobloafs me, stick to JM and shirred/ adjustable strap pieces. My rib cage is pretty small in proportion to my bust so maybe that's why i like high cuts?

>>8365193
Oh boy, I wish I could wear empire waists but they'd look like maternity dresses on me.
I might just be very self-concious about it but it does look bizarre to have a waistline that's sitting an inch or two above my actual waist. I'll look for stuff with adjustable straps though, I hadn't thought of that!

>>8365179
I have the same bust and waist measurement, but I think my bust looks small even though I am a 28E-F. I am tall though, so I feel you on some dresses sitting on the ribcage.

Leur Getter and Jane Marple make dresses that sit at my waist properly, so I recommend them. Attached is a dress cut that works well for me that both brands do, it cinches the waist and accommodates the bust without boob loafing.

ETC tends to be hit or miss as far as fit goes with me. Their bodice length can be quite short.

Does anyone have tips on where to find cute otome-able blouses with peter pan collars? Preferably affordable and simple ones (to wear under cardigans).

>>8365382
My first thought is search amavel, f.i.n.t or axes femme on Japanese auctions; you can get them for like 1000yen-2000yen second hand. Taobao is also good. Dreamv comes to mind as well.

Anybody got any pics of offbrand coords or main pieces(anything other jm, etc, shirley temple, and milk)? Also more shorts/pants coords

>>8365143
Do you think their dresses would accommodate a 95cm bust? (Not fattychan)

>>8366562

>>8365622
JM's JSKs tends to fit around 92cm maximum, but some of the OP cuts are more forgiving.

>>8364267
Who is this girl? Loving all her coords.

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>>8366914
oops. thought those were shorts.

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>>8366658
>tfw 95cm bust
>tfw can't wear op because muh broad shoulders
Holy fuck I hate my inverted triangle body shape. Jane Marple is the brand I admire the most.

>>8364789
Sometimes fast fashion stores like F21 American Apparel and H&M has quirky printed graphics on items. I think that some Kate Spade pieces can work since they tend to have bold classic patterns like polka dots.

Could we get some otome resources posted? My Google fu turns up mostly otome game blogs.
What are the basic building blocks of an otome wardrobe?

>>8367961
>>8364832
>>8364796
Thank you so much! I can only buy things online using visa gift cards atm which makes buying from otome brands hard since I have no clue how to use them on lacemarket
>probs for the best budget wise

>>8365622
I have an 83 cm bust (28DD). Dans le Salon is too big for me, often 92 cm for JSKs. Regular JM is a good fit, neither tight with a blouse nor too loose when worn as a sundress. I don't think there are many regular JM dresses that would fit 95 cm.

>>8368351
>>8367961
Bonne Chance Collection has some really cute otome-able stuff. They sell out quick on limited things though (today for ex they released another limited collection and I missed out on something I wanted) so I'd hop on them whenever they update their stock.

>>8366912
Sauce on that fawn cardigan?

>>8368760
Thanks for sharing anon. Their stuff is so cute. Some of the cuts reminds me of Milk's designs.

>>8368760
This is almost exactly what I was looking for! Thanks so much for sharing!

>>8368763

It's Felissimo but it's been unavailable for ages. Been hunting for a similar one myself.

>>8368773
>>8368830
Glad to help! They're not too shabby price-wise either and they'll offer coupon codes every few months.

PASTEL worked for me when I ordered today, not sure how long that lasts.

>>8368760
These look so cute but they're only 35 inches long and look like they'd only look good on shorter people.

>>8368351
Eshakti.com has some cute stuff that would work for otome, and they'll customize the length for you.
Most of their clothes have pockets too.

>>8369377
I'm 5'0", so actually, 34" to 35" hits me at or below the knee depending on the cut. They'd probably consider doing longer/larger sizes if enough people asked. They mentioned expanding sizes on Instagram.

Taller otome girls, secondhand Emily Temple Cute, Peppermint Fox, older Betsey Johnson, and Jane Marple would be perfect. I know ETC goes for such great prices on Mbok. I'm too short to pull off those looks without their dresses being calf-length and boxy, otherwise my closet would be full of ETC

Granted, fitting the bust measurements is another challenge for ETC and JM, but if you can they're great options and quality.

I'd also rec. Modcloth to you guys. In fact, tall otome peeps are the only ones I'd direct there. Measurements are right on the site, they tend to stock for taller women, size varies more, and every few months they'll have a sale/coupon codes.

>>8369541
Is modcloth really trustworthy though? I keep seeing it mentioned in these threads even though they have really bad reviews, such as bad customer service, getting the wrong item, bad quality, etc. Have anons who bought from them have good experiences?

>>8369675
I've never bought from them but I have friends who have and the general consensus was that it's best when you buy on sales otherwise the price =/= the quality

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>>8365132
>>8365145

How do they pull off JM so well?
JM always looks so perfect on these skinny (Japanese?) asian bloggers. But honestly all the JM dresses I own/used to own are bulky as hell and at least 10cm too big around the waist and I'm not even skinny (67cm waist, 86cm bust). So they end up looking like nightgowns or shapeless mumus on me. Even a belt doesn't fix the issue, because the arm opening also tends to be too big or the shoulder straps are set too far apart almost falling off my shoulders (and with 36cm my shoulders aren't exactly narrow). There is also this huge gaping under my arms going on. All this leads me to the impression, that this clothing would be more suitable to chubby girls but then I see all the pictures of skinny to normal weight girl wearing it floating around and I ask myself, how do they do it? Do they all get their stuff altered?

>>8369675
I recommend not shopping with them unless it's a sale and you have to have the item/can't find it elsewhere.

I bought a pair of shoes that were too small so I sent them back for an exchange. They had the correct size in stock when I alerted them of the exchange online. It took almost 2 weeks for them to process the exchange, by the end which the shoes were completely sold out. I was under the impression that I had dibs on them since I flagged it in the system. Then, instead of crediting my money back they gave me a store credit. I didn't mind waiting until a restock, thinking it would be <1 month. Wrong. They didn't restock them until April the next year. They charge you $6.99 or so to take back returns which sucks, too.

>>8369675
Years back I stopped buying from modcloth because 9/10 you were paying 60$ for a square of fabric with elastic around the waist. You name it, I've seen it- unfinished hems, melted zippers, very crappy fabric, unlined dresses, crappy lining on dresses, exceedingly horrific lace, etc.

The good dresses on modcloth are a gamble. Sometimes they come in and they were made by a small company with great quality. Then you had dresses that may have been okay construction wise, but bad fitting wise. I have at least two dresses from them where the waist was too short on me-- and I'm 5'1. Their "full" skirts aren't ever really full, maybe one or one and a half yard tops. Droopy and sad are the only ways to describe them. A belt can only do so much.

But the biggest offender was the fabric. Sweet jesus, the fabric. Easily 98% of the dresses I got from there, for 70$+ had horrible, horrible fabric.

If you want something like modcloth but better quality, honestly you'd be better served getting a simple sewing machine. Their dresses are really, really, *really* not hard to make (I cannot emphasise this enough, most of their dresses don't even have sleeves so you can make one of them in five to ten minutes,) and if you make it at home you can have a much higher quality for much, much cheaper. Instead of a flimsy, droopy skirt you can make a badass circle skirt with some badass drapes for maybe $20.

>>8371216
Sadly, I've bought enough from modcloth that I have no trouble believing you about the zippers, etc. Almost everything I've gotten has had cheap material, is unlined, or is just cut weird. And at 5'8" I find a LOT of their skirts and dresses too short for me (I like things that at least come to my knees). The only thing I really buy from them now is cardigans, and the occasional shirt. And housewares...they do have some cute house stuff.

>>8370205
I'm 88/68 and JM fits me just fine. Maybe you just have a weird body type even with those measurements? I find that most JM pieces are made about 90/70

>>8370205
I have exactly the same measurements as you, but JM looks fine on me. However I only own JSKs, and JM's OPs does look boxy and unflattering.

>>8371868
Yeah, a lot of the OPs have a really unfortunate silhouette - very boxy and no shape. I'm thinking of getting some of mine altered so they taper at the waist more. I think they've done that so it fits a larger variety of bodies and measurements but it can be really unflattering.

To answer OP's question, I bought a small daily petti for Otome recently! My JMs have built-in pettis and look fine on their own, but I feel like my ETCs need a little poof.

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>>8370840
>>8371216
>>8371814
What are people's experiences wuth buying shoes from them? They seem to have alot of cute otomiable shoes.

>>8372098
Those particular ones are from TUK, I've heard TUK are generally good quality, just look up reviews.

>>8365131
those shoes are to die for

>>8372098
Wish I could wear their shoes, curse my wide duck feet.

>>8372098
>>8372108
Sorry i meant modcloth. Tuk doesn't really have the style im going for

>>8372189
Anon, the bunny shoes you posted are from TUK. (Which are pretty nice shoes--I have some other TUK shoes.)
Modcloth is just a reseller for various brands.

You'll need to research the item(s) and the brands their from to know if it's worth the purchase.

Selfpost. Concrit?

>>8372770

Looks frumpy as fuck. It doesn't feel effortless or playful at all. I'd say scrap and start over. The skirt is cute though.

>>8372770
too safe. tszuj it up a bit. give yourself a necklace or bracelet or scarf, ditch the stockings, go with a cute pair of socks

>>8372784
>>8372796
if you can't handle it, don't ask.

currently making a dress from this fabric. calling it my lemonade dress cus it's gonna have hot pink bias finishing

>>8371216
>you can make one of them in five to ten minutes

Um.... No.

>>8370205
I'm smaller than you and most JM JSKs work fine for me. I have to loosely belt them so there isn't the "10 cm of fabric cinched up" effect around the waist, but looking at photos that's how Japanese girls wear them, too. Frankly they are cut frumpy. A blouse/cardigan and belt sort of hides it, but frumpy and loose is the look.

>>8369675
>>8370840
>>8371216
>>8371814
This is the niche I'm hoping to get into when I open my store next month - 'Vintage-inspired' cute kitsch clothing with the high quality and attention to detail of lolita.

Gettin' real sick of unlined poplin cotton for exorbitant prices.

>>8371216
>Five to ten minutes.
This is ridiculous, though. It'd take ten minutes to cut the fabric.

>>8371216
Oh my god, anon, please tell me if you share this specific pain: GORGEOUS skirts a few years back, sort of high waisted, but flared out?

ZIPPER WAS SHIT no matter what you did to it, no matter how you tried to fix it. I have no idea how they even got the skirts on their models. Complaints in the reviews were up the wazoo. I don't think the company that made them ever fixed it. I think Modcloth just stopped selling them.

>>8373567
To clarify, it wasn't the exact skirt in the pic. It was silkier looking, flouncier, and came in different colors.

I even took that skirt to a seamstress.Unsalvagable for what it was worth.

It's been like 6 or 7 years and I'm still mad.

I feel like hundreds of people are still mad.

>>8369675
OP, I know I'm late, but they are definitely hit or miss. Take a very careful look at the reviews. About 70% of their stuff is okay quality (and I'm including sweaters, jackets, jewelry, tights, and shoes, so this is a little generous).

For dresses, check out the reviews and stick with thicker fabric. One of the advantages Modcloth has is their customers take pics and can put them in their comments and list their height, bust size, and dress size. That's actually how I realized nearly NONE of their shit works for short girls (sorry fellow short girls).

Why not light fabrics? Because it's harder to tell in pictures how the quality is and there is DEFINITELY a bigger chance the product will look much worse than the stock picture--I'm talking jagged cuts, loose strings, a ton of factors.

Another hint that makes them a decent source when you PLAY them: reverse image search anything they didn't list a brand for, or search the item name in Google, reverse image search that. Modcloth is really good at collecting from cute brands and they benefit from you NOT knowing the brand name by jacking up the price a bit. Find something cute on Modcloth and you just might be able to find it cheaper somewhere else.

When they have big sales, they are a really good resource. And the system they have to notify you when something's on sale/restocked is good.

They're also a good starting point for getting ideas and then finding the better deal elsewhere. And if I'm not mistaken, their tights always come in multiple sizes.

>>8373608

Pro-tip: Start up a chat and ask one of the Mod stylists what the brand is. They will tell you and then give some bs about how it's "imported" or "exclusive" (it's not) to make you buy it there. Then just close the chat and Google the brand lol

>>8373608
Thanks anon! That was super helpful. Ive been eyeing their stuff for a while but didnt want to take the risk

>>8373695
That's so fucking smart.

>>8368030
>otome resources

>>8373421
That sounds nice. You should link when you're ready to. I'd love an online store that's not shitty rockabilly advertising itself as ~vintage~.

>>8374406
Has anybody seen the movie Miss Granny? The main characters outfits throughout the whole thing are very cute and otome. I didn't feel like taking a good screengrab, but it's very inspirational and I really recommend it.

>>8374416
That skirt is made of dreams.

>>8374413
aaaaa! That was adorable, thanks for the rec. I'm suddenly overcome with the desire to buy a floral bathing cap...

>>8374413
I'm gonna have to check this movie out. She looks adorable. Thanks anon!

Has anyone bought directly from Leur Getter here? Do they ship overseas?

>>8377441
They don't have anything on their website about it, so I unless you speak japanese, I wouldn't risk it. You could always use tenso, however.

>>8377441
You need a SS. I used FJ

>>8364796
>Cath Kidston
oh wow thank you anon I think I just fell in love

>>8379791
>>8379821
Thanks!

Are there any good otome shops on taobao? I need filler tops, blouses, and cardigans and prefer a little bit more understated and less frilly than a lot of the more lolita-ish stuff I'm seeing.

On aliexpress there are more otome dresses that are KNEE length? I found only mori and few otome-able dresses. I saw one with candies printed in muted colors, but i look like shit with browns. Black, reds and pastels are welcome.

>>8380302
I really like Miss Point. Other than that, the only otomesque things I've found on taobao were mixed in with other stuff in mainstream fashion and mori stores like dearli, pic related.

>>8382109
Off topic but I have the dress in that pic and I was disappointed with the quality. I ended up giving it to my friend.

>>8368030
seconding this. would be nice for noobs.

>>8380346
On a related note, anyone got knee-length skirt/dresses coord inspo? I bought one the other day and while I think it'd be great for otome, I have no idea how to wear it.

>>8384675
shit I somehow mistook 'knee' for 'ankle'. I'm looking for something like this >>8365132 on the left but not as frumpy.

How do people make those spreadsheets? I think we need one for Otome like lists of brands etc.

>>8385081
Usually with google docs that way people with permission can help update it and it can be accessed anywhere.

Do anons think pic related could be otome? Its a brand called xiao zi and its on Tmall. I really love their dresses, which are long and flowy like pic related

Here's the brand and blog lists from past threads-

Main otome brands:
>Jane Marple
>Emily Temple Cute/Shirley Temple Cute
>Leur Getter
>MILK

Misc brands:
>Amavel
>Fint
>Axes Femme
>Peppermint Fox (indie)
>Lois Crayon
>Mina Prehonen
>Ank Rogue
>Franche Lippee
>Melantrick Hemlighet
>bortsprungt
>Q-pot
>Excentrique
>Grimoire (mainly their accessories and Verum line)
>Candy Stripper
>Wonder Rocket
>Cath Kidston
>Lolita brands like AP and IW. (some of their accessories, legwear, bags, and sometimes their mini skirts + boleros work)

Normalfag:
>Alannah Hill
>Modcloth
>Dangerfield
>Cath Kidston
>Sock Dreams
>Melissa Shoes
>bait footwear (vintage inspired designs)
>dkode shoes (quirky but mature. Might work with JM?)

>>8386273
cont.

-General Blogs:
http://axesfemme.tumblr.com/

http://emikyuforever.tumblr.com/

http://emilytemplecute.tumblr.com/

http://fuckyeahotomekei.tumblr.com/

http://otomestyle.tumblr.com/

http://otomeclub.tumblr.com/

-Individual Blogs
I've put a little description of each, but most of them are a lolita and otome mix.

http://sugarypinkcupcake.tumblr.com/(More quirky otome styling - Plays with colour and pattern, owns/wears ETC, JM and Q-pot)

http://xylia-x.tumblr.com/ (Mainly classic lolita, but is posting more otome outfits)

http://pinkstrawberrytea.tumblr.com/ (OC coords. ETC and AP)

http://altered-imagery.tumblr.com (OC coords and hauls. ETC, AP, and IW)

http://endless8.tumblr.com/ (OC coords and hauls. ETC, JM)

http://strawberrymelody.tumblr.com/ (seagull, posts lolita and otome)

http://grandma-kei.tumblr.com/ (new on the block, is plus sized)

http://fannyrosie.tumblr.com/ (A bit of a grey area, but her outfits can be quite inspiring. Classic lolita brands and offbrand)

http://kaya-kueh.tumblr.com/ (very casual, plays with colour and pattern. Wears ETC, JM, AP)

http://sinneddonuts.tumblr.com/ (wears a lot of choc/cookie stuff. ETC, AP, JM, other different brands)

http://spaceandroid.tumblr.com/ (Uses mainly off brand, rather inactive)

http://herajika.tumblr.com/ (Obvious inclusion but not very active. ETC, lolita brands)

http://sapphira-doll.tumblr.com/ (Another grey area. Wears mainly lolita brands)

http://angiiichan.tumblr.com/ (Darker colours to pastels. ETC and AP)

http://sakuraimayura.tumblr.com/ (Very inactive, but they have some cute outfits in their archive. ETC, JM and lolita brands)

http://mademoiselle-iona.tumblr.com/ (More lolita than anything, but their outfits are nice. Mainly IW.)

http://lilythdark.tumblr.com/ (Lolita and otome OC, full body mirror shots)

For anyone with big feet:
>>8385926

>>8385299

It's more vintagey than otome kei, I think it's a bit too 'safe' to be considered otome kei, which has been built up in my mind to be 'zany' but in a very classy way. I think it /could/ be done, but you have to put a lot of work into it in order for it to be considered otome kei.

It's beautiful though - don't hesitate just because it doesn't fit into one fashion!

>>8386282
thank you so much anon!! Also flattered you included me.

Anyone want to share non-brand otome finds? This ebay seller has a lot of cute brooches and jewelry.

>http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=271318055630

>>8387577
Yeah, I feel it looks too mature. Otome kei has a cute and girly feel to it.

>>8389184
Kind of the opposite,

Otome has a 'mature' feel to it. Look at one of the leading brands, Jane Marple... Grandma's can rock that stuff.

>>8389377

>>8389377
Still kind of disagree there. JM still has a cute element to it. It don't think grandmas would wear it unless they're going for an adorable grandma look.

>>8389436

>>8389445

>>8389465

Is a peter pan collar an absolute must for otome, or are there other styles that work just as well?

>>8390157
NO RULES ONLY CUTE.

not that fucking hard.

>>8390167
Is that why I can't pinpoint what this style is? Because it really just seems all over the place.

>>8390167
O-okay. ;_;
That makes life a lot easier, thanks anon.

>>8390171

Yup, that's my problem too.

I tried getting into otome, but I really can't get into it because a) it's a bit too cute for me and I'm more into classical grandma stuff, and the larger reason b) it's just really hard to pinpoint.

It's kind of all about being a little out there and quirky, but still retaining enough coherence to be considered cute in a more mature manner than sweet lolita.

Being a lolita at heart, I gave up and now I just do 'grandma kei'. I still love otome kei, but it's just not for me.

>>8390182
Haha we must have different grandmas then because to me otome screams quirky grandma.

>>8390182
My grandma wears pant suits and orthopedic shoes. I don't know what grandmas people think about, but all the ones I've met ain't stylish at all.

>>8389439
Otome is a bit of a youthful, cute take on vintage grandma (as opposed to vintage little girl). There's a fair bit that's loosely vintage inspired and cute print elements, but a lot of loose, untailored cuts, generally modest hemlines, and not many loud, childish/babyish print designs. ...Though of course JM and other brands have also put out things that are almost the complete opposite of that.

It's not that difficult guys.

It's more mature outfit cuts (As in the cut of the garments and the preferred silhouette) with whimsical and cute themes and motifs.

>>8390362
This anon gets it.

>>8390425
YEAH
I'm gonna wear those bright ass socks with my cute loafers. FUCK

>>8390362
>>8390425
Yes.

Anyone here have experience with hand-washing JM's printed Cupro fabrics (London Print, Anniversary Frame, Strawberry Label, Royal Order etc.)? Dry-cleaning does add up, so it'd be nice to be able to hand-wash them...

My aunt gave me this sweater vest forever ago, and while I find it to be charming I have no idea how to wear it. Is it just too granny-kei/tacky?

>>8393109
thats super fucking cute

I think pairing it with a cream colored blouse/dress and some pink shoes and cute socks it could work well

>>8393114
Would you happen to have an example of a blouse/dress/skirt, anon? My mind is mixing up nude and cream

Please help anons.

I have a lot of more plain pieces like pic related which I like wearing to my office job (which has business casual dress code). Lolita/otome has really changed me though because I feel really anal about the type of legwear I wear and want it to be matching in some way.

What kind of legwear should I wear with pic related that's suitable for work? Do you think white lacy tights is appropriate still? I don't like wearing sheer skin color tights because it bothers the otome/lolita part of me in terms of not having any legwear.

>>8374406
They just restocked this dress and ive been watching it for a while... but after owning cath kidston dresses/skirts and then reading the bad quality reviews i know i cant justify paying $80 for it

Also can we start another notome or can someone suggest a notome blog or blog post?

>>8394712
To be honest more ankle frill socks would be better. Or a combo of white tights+maybe cute baby blue ankle socks

>>8394857
Where is that dress from?

>>8394876
Example

>>8394857
I find it hard justifying paying full price for Catch Kidston as well though. The fabric is nice but the dresses and skirts are not that great for what you pay for them. Then again, you don't really buy them for their great designs but more so their prints.

>>8394857
why don't you post some notome then anon? Also are there blogs about notome?

>>8394907
>>8394907
I've always really liked my CK dresses. The fabric is nice, no construction issues, and their pieces have pockets. Only issue for me is lack of lining in the skirts, but it's usually not visible/a problem and several of my ETC pieces are just as bad or worse, so...

>>8394877
Modcloth. Mew seum
>>8394907
That's true but I normally wait for sales as well. But a $70 sale Cath K dress/skirt with pockets and heavier material that is easily put through a washer is quickly chosen over bad mod cloth reviews that claim its thin, costume material and not stretchy.

>>8380302
while it's not really the look they're going for, http://xunruo.taobao.com/?spm=a1z10.5-c.0.0.KnT8rq has a bunch of otome-able stuff

>>8394876
Thanks anon. I didn't mention ankle socks because I thought they'd be even less work appropriate. But maybe I'm wrong.
Thoughts?

Why would you wear a wig for otome... (notome I guess)

>>8397298
This looks lolita to me. I hate the wig though

>>8390983
I machine wash my JM with no issue. Just wash it separately and on a cool temp on a delicate cycle. I would do a spot test first then hand washing before you try machine wash.

>>8397298
Some more notome

>>8389436
This tartan is so cute! Does anyone know what its name is/which brand?

>>8397329
Thanks anon! I have gotten rather scared of washing prints with reds in them.

>>8397298
I think you can wear a wig for it if it's natural looking (I wear wigs daily and people never bat an eye cause it's not that trendy Taru color or anything out of the ordinary). However, I really don't like how shiny her wig is, nor the center part.

>>8365131
so fucking adorable

>>8366927
love the kinda shorts those are, is the style called anything specific?

>>8401338
pumpkin pants iirc.

>>8401333
ikr? If I were a kawaii little asian girl, I would wear the shit out of that.

>>8367950
i know a similar feel.

my bust is 86cm and waist 57cm but my shoulders are over 40.5cm. (34in bust, 22.5in waist, 16in shoulders). so size small for my bust and waist but my fucking shoulders need a size large or just don't fit some blouses.

Has anyone ever ordered from this site yet? They have a lot of cute sundresses in different prints but the quality seems meh-tier. I'm just curious and thought I'd share, maybe if someone orders they can do a review?
http://www.larmoni.com/

>>8395475
>http://xunruo.taobao.com/?spm=a1z10.5-c.0.0.KnT8rq

...I want it all.

>>8369675
Hate modcloth. Apart from their 'you're paying markup for our obnoxiously flowery item descriptions and ~curating~ items from brands- but we won't tell you what brands', they just don't have anything worth the prices they want for them and I haven't had good experiences with them.

I bought the same pair of shoes twice, because I sent the first back for arriving with weird marks on them (they were beige) and to size up, and the second pair arrived with the same weird marks. They also looked nothing like the stock photos and were incredibly cheap looking. If they hadn't been already kinda inexpensive I woulda sent those back too. I've gotten much nicer shoes for same or lower prices from Payless.

>>8401977
Sorry, meant to tag this anon too since shoes related >>8372098

>>8395475
fuck everything is cute

>>8371913
Where did you get your petti? Looking for a shorter, light one for some of my otome and more casual low poof IW dresses but everything seems too long or too fluffy or is too cupcake-y in the case of my usual light/small Leg Ave petti...

>>8365084
Sauce on skirt?

>>8405478
Leur Getter. It's actually a JSK.

>>8369675
The quality is hit or miss. Modcloth is trustworthy in the sense that they aren't going to just scam you out of money for a product you're never getting. I bought Irregular Choice heels from them before but they were obviously good quality because IC is a good quality brand. In my experience, they have really good customer service. If you order something that sucks you can easily return it.

Not entirely thread-related, but since the store itself caters to kitsch cute/otome..

What do you guys think of discount codes and possibly a raffle as publicity for the opening a store?

>>8365131
This is SO fucking cute but I know as a busty white girl I'd like frumpy as hell in it, sad life

Are dickey collars a no no? One of my tops is uncomfortable and looks bad if I layer it over a collared shirt so I'm tempted to wear a fake one.

>>8405761
i think they're fine, who's going to know anyway?

>>8405761
Jane Marple actually sometimes sells dickey collars. It's perfectly fine anon.

>>8390362
I can see where you're coming from anon but otome has never really registered as a 'cute take on granny style' to me. Otome literally means 'young maiden' with nuances of 'beautiful woman' and 'charming'. The otome look emerged in Japan in the 70s and whilst certain looks may be considered grannyish by western standards, the driving influence behind the style was (and largely still is) appearing like a cute and youthful prairie girl or a modest pretty young woman from a fairytale, or heroine from a shoujo or Josei manga. It's certainly developed in its quirkiness over the years (and certain brands such as ETC have developed more of a 'mod' kinda aesthetic) but of course it's still generally a lot less outlandish and more wearable than lolita.

>>8405954
Oh my gosh candy the feels
I LOVED the dresses she wore and her long pretty blonde hair as a child

>>8385299
It could certainly fit under the 'otome' umbrella but it lacks the kinda pop quirkiness you see in many otome brands these days. It looks more like what would have been considered 'otome' in the perhaps the 70s, 80s and possibly 90s however, it still looks like the kind of thing you might see being sold by say, axes femme or possibly Pink House.

>>8401152
It's a vivienne Westwood dress, This is why it's so lovely..

>>8389439
Jane Marple was literally named after an old lady, though. Maybe real old ladies are less likely to go for this brand (my grandma only wears slacks, baggy knits and orthopedic shoes) but you can't really deny they have taken at least some inspiration from fabulous grannies.

>>8408331

>>8408335
100% agreed. It's just grandma in concept in a sense.

>>8408335
I think 'some inspiration' is a fair assessment however 'cute take on granny style' still doesn't sit right with me in terms of describing otome fashion as a whole, Jane Marple is just one compan of many and also if I remember rightly, the name was used largely because she was a smart and independent woman, untroubled by desire to persue men etc and instead had her own adventures and lived her own life - charming and carefree (and yes a cute and quirky fashion sense). Even Japanese women's 'conservative style' aimed more at working women from 20-40s in age appears very grannyish by western standards, but it's not considered old ladyish inspired or in style.
I suppose the point is, otome for all its various influences, is still far more 'young maiden' than 'cute take on granny' in my mind.

>>8408886
But we are talking about defining it for English speaking westerners.

>>8408325
I doubt it

>>8409093
Even as a description for English speaking westerners, it sounds closer to an accurate description or explanation of mori girl or possibly natural kei to me.

Are there any otome blogs out there other than Tree house Nation and her sister? They overlap with Lolita, but they are awesome. If I made a blog about developing my otome style as I work at it would people be interested? Hopefully for concrit and getting to talk to other people working on it like me? Or is that too selfcentered?

>>8410097
As someone who loves those blogs and otome, I'd love to read a blog like that.

>>8410097
Why not just ease into the whole thing using tumblr or something, and then when you feel more comfortable with the style, start a more individual type blog. To be honest, a 'watch me improve' personal blog doesn't sound all that appealing. I think in general people like to view things that are inspirational to them rather than follow to impart advice - I think that kinda thing is better suited to forums or as mentioned, some place like tumblr or similar microblog platform. A more traditional blog I think needs stronger content to really make it work and maintain people's increasingly short attention spans.

>>8410119
I understand what you are saying. It wouldn't be too harmful to blog in a normal style and just have no one read it for awhile while I improve, right? I don't like the Tumblr format. I could just not post it till anywhere till I get better.

>>8410190
Harmful? of course not, you should go and do what makes you happy anon. Sounds like you've pretty much made up your mind anyway.

If your blog did become popular, some people may actually enjoy looking back through the 'finding your feet' phase of entering the fashion, that kinda interest tends to come from already establishing yourself though (unless something you do is deemed questionable enough to attract the kind of perpetually irked types that post in 'ita' threads etc).

>>8365131
What shoes are these?

Bump!

>>8408329
I love her shoes. Someone knows where this is from?

>>8414744
The shoes are Jane Marple

>>8414806

>>8410080
Here's a description for you:
Cute and gives no fucks.

>>8414808
I wish these shoes would fit a size 9/40.

>>8414830

>>8414832

>>8414835

>>8414838

>>8414843

>>8370205
>But honestly all the JM dresses I own/used to own are bulky as hell and at least 10cm too big around the waist and I'm not even skinny (67cm waist, 86cm bust). So they end up looking like nightgowns or shapeless mumus on me

Um... why haven't you got those dresses tailored? These are problems that are fixable if you have a tailor.

>>8414844

>>8414849

>>8414865

>>8414876

>>8414878

So I finally obtained one of my dream items - the 4 strap Jane Marple shoes.

I feel completely in love with otome now. I don't even feel the same about my lolita dresses anymore. I feel like getting rid of all of my OTT lolita dresses. I think I just prefer detailed, more simple coordinates now.

>>8415184

>>8414876
I need that necklace!

>>8415184
>>8415186
I want to start wearing otome when I finished getting buff :( I always liked lolita and alt fashions but would never wear them, but I'm really in love with these.

>>8415184
Congrats man, those are some amazing shoes. I feel your otome feels. The profile of otome is much slimmer and delicate and looks so neat and clean when compared to lolita. It's really refreshing.

>>8408329
Yay for non-colorful non-themed otome looks!
One day I'll afford Jane Marple, I swear. I'll swim in those ridiculously well-constructed, simple-as-fuck designs. Mark my words, cgl.

>>8364782
i love that she's wearing converse

Some of these otome coords look like lolita, just more interesting and better coordinated. It's cute.

>>8415283
Same here.
It popped up on Closet Child and I regret not buying it.

>>8417689
I'm not sure what your budget and tastes are, but simple JM can be quite cheap second hand.

>>8364256
i'm trying to cop some cute printed fabric to make some otome pieces but i'm not having much luck, can anyone suggest any good sites i can look at? i'm a real sucker for the jam label prints especially

When I don't wear lolita or normie clothes I typically wear vintage dresses that I think fit the otome very nicely. I've never worn otome but
I love the aesthetic, it's kitschy but simple. Do you think these dresses would fit the otome look, if they were coorded correctly?

>>8425848
Etsy is actually a pretty good place to look. Some shops I can think of to look at off the top of my head:
FragmentsAndPieces
SweetRococoFabrics
Laceville
beautifulwork

>>8425848
>>8426181
PikoBeagle2000
Shimgraphica
CawaiiMart
emicraftinjapan

>>8426181
>>8426195
bless your sweet anon souls thank you!

>>8415283
>>8423988
It's a different design, but CC is selling a lemon necklace
http://www.closetchildonlineshop.com/product/80612

>>8410190
I would 100% read that blog.

Also, can someone elaborate on the difference between Otome and Notome (if there is one)?

>>8428432
Notome = ita.

>>8365069
where could I get shoes like hers? I know those are probably some brand, but anything goes for me. Also, what are they called exactly? Thanks

>>8430861
I think they're Jane Marple. The JM ones are called 4 strap shoes.

>>8430861
They're Jane Marple's 4-strap mary janes. Target has been selling something that's kind of similar: "Sly Strappy Buckle Booties".

>>8430906
>>8430911
thank you dolls! Im off to buy shoes..

>>8380346
could you link the candy one?

>>8433024
Seconding this anon's request!

Unrelated to that, is it possible to make completely off-brand otome outfits? and can we get more notome pictures in here? I'd like to get an idea for what not to do.

>>8414876
Sauce on this dress?

Would you expect most Otome pieces to be fully lined, like you would with Lolita brands? Or only the bodice?

>>8437185
It's by MILK from a few seasons back. It comes up fairly often on auctions.

>>8438971
Depends on the brand, though most things are. All winter stuff is usually lined. ETC would often release summer items without lining, though not sure if they still do that with their more recent pieces.

>>8415184
I feel you anon, JM four strap shoes are my favourite. I have them in gold, and a black pair black coming in the mail and I'm so excited for them! I want to collect all the colours.

A general question here. I am building up an otome wardrobe but it often gets quite cold here in the winter and a lot of the stuff would be inappropriate to wear during that time. I was wondering if anyone had any tricks to stay warm in the colder months while still maintaining the style?

>>8441522
Swap shoes for boots, wear thicker tights (or layer patterned tights/socks over thinner tights for extra warmth), wear cardigans. I doubt you're going to be outside all day, and most basic otome looks (not the super summery ones) should be just fine if you're inside.
I wore otome fairly regularly last winter and am from the northern border of the US, where it was routinely below freezing. Obviously if it was super cold (we had a few days like ~20), I wouldn't wear dresses, but other than that it was fine for waiting for the bus, walking to work, going back home, etc.

>>8441522
Personally all winter I live in Uniqlo heat tech items. They layer nicely and really make a difference. Also fleece leggings, layering cardigans over dresses with long sleeved blouses or cutsews underneath, heavy winter appropriate coats with cute designs or at least swapping out the buttons for something a bit whimsical, and a good pair of interesting boots in a neutral color that coordinates with your wardrobe.

>>8441553
Cardigans definitely are not warm enough for where I am.
I am in Canada so it gets much colder here (usually around 5 to -13F). I almost never see mittens, scarves, coats/jackets etc in otome and that worries me for the colder months here.

I will definitely layer tights that seems like it would be a lot warmer and boots are a must for sure!

>>8441595
Cardigans should be fine under a coat, which was what I meant. When most people ask for coord advice, they're not asking for outerwear advice (beyond maybe a cardigan or fitted jacket). You never see mittens/scarves/etc. because these are photos of outfits, either taken inside or taken outside in the summer.
Like I said, I'm from the north too, and I know about cold. It's usually -15 to 5 degrees from late Nov to early March where I'm from, and we have a hell of a lot of days colder than that.

Is wearing a petti preferential in otome?

>>8446068
I think it's nice to wear a very slight a-line petti to give the silhouette a better shape, but it's not a requirement.

>>8448241
I'm looking for a petti like that but have no idea what to get, any suggestions?

>>8448642
I have one from ETC and it's perfect for this. Maybe try them?

sorry, I don't come on this board often, but I've been trying to find this Japanese website where a lot of people upload pictures of their coords. I remember it had a lot of otome coords. It worked sort of like lookbook. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Recently bought the Beth frog prince op in black, but I haven't seen any coords in that colourway. Anyone got any saved? Seriously lacking in inspiration.

>>8448642
Closet Child's chiffon pannier (the cheapest they sell) is perfect for otome's minimal poof.

>>8414844
where is that blouse from??

>>8449565
That is exactly what I was looking for, thanks anon.

>>8449784
Jane Marple. I want it so bad.

>>8448819
Coordisnap?

>>8448819
wear.jp?

>>8427773
I bought that necklace a couple of weeks ago when it popped up. It's pretty cute, the lemon slice is squishy and kind of hollow? The bow is quite sturdy and stiff which i like.

this one gives otome feel though she uses all the lolita stuff

>>8451500
This is so cute! I love the dress

How far can a fully shirred JM skirt stretch?

>>8426174
I feel like the one on the left would work better than the one on the right, but I think they'd both be ok.

>>8433024
>>8436280
Not that anon, but they might have been talking about this dress?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Print-Dresses-O-neck-Shorts-Sleeve-Shirvering-Knee-Length-Candy-Colored-Sweet-Casual-Fashion-Style-Japanese/32351999219.html
It's the cheapest listing I've found for this dress but the seller's at 75%

>>8449565
>>8448642
Closet Child panniers are quite scratchy. I use the otome petti from Chiffon Rose: http://chiffonrose.com/collections/classical-puppets/products/coming-soon-classical-puppets-a-line-otome-petticoat

>>8454317
I own this it's so comfortable.

>>8454763
How's the print/size on it?
Also, do you have a link to the one you bought? I'm skeptical of sellers that don't have a rating higher than 90%.