/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

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>>8370617
Who is that guy anyways? He looks so old and creepy

>>8370670
>being this new

>>8370670
His name is Junnyan and iirc he's in his late 30's or something? He's apparently one of the founders of the Harajuku fashion walks.

>>8370676
Not new, just never did my research

>>8370683
Ahh, so that's how he stays relevant. Thanks anon

>>8370617
Oh god same. There's alsmost no line between the two anymore.

>>8370659
I really think the outfit on the right is cute, but I think something like that would impossible for me to wear outside without everyone thinking I fhave some sort of weird fetish. For context I'm 6ft tall so that doesn't help.

Incoming mini-dump

>>8370753

>>8370753
>>8370757

>>8370753
>>8370757
>>8370759

Ignore the shooped face if you can. End of dump.

I'll dump some. I have a lot of Kyary, sorry.

>>8370788

>>8370790

>>8370788
Her outfits are cute so I'm cool with it.

>>8370794

>>8370798
>>8370796
It's a shame she doesn't dress up as harajuku-ish as she used to. I know she's growing up, but still...

>>8370800

>>8370806

>>8370807

>>8370800
I'm agree but I can't say that I blame her. I'm really lazy and tired myself and tend to go for comfort these days. I need to find super casual and comfortable but still super cute stuff to wear on a daily basis.

>>8370813

>>8370815
I got this as a captcha. Is it what I think it is?
>sorry not related

>>8370820

>>8370820
A church shaped cake!

>>8370823

>>8370827

>>8370830

>>8370831

>>8370836

>>8370839
Some decora and then I'll leave

>>8370841

>>8370845

>>8370846

>>8370851

>>8370853

>>8370856
and that's me done for now.

Am I allowed to ruin your bright colours with some Rokku and similar styles?

>>8370874

>>8370876

>>8370878

>>8370881
Also sorry if some of these are pictures for ants.

>>8370886

>>8370874
Do it.

>>8370890
Not as crazy as some of the normal Gyaru nails I've seen but still fitting.

>>8370895

>>8370898

>>8370903

>>8370908

>>8370916

>>8370920
>tfw DIA belts don't fit my huge western hips.

>>8370925

>>8370929
Oh man, I have way more pics than I thought.

>>8370898
Jesus, I hated gyaru while it was like this (and the many other photos dumped) but at least it was distinctive. Neo gal or whatever the fuck is just so fucking boring. Same with decora - I think it looks pretty shitty a lot of the time and wouldn't wear it myself (IMHO pastel decora looks best), but it's still sad to see it dying.

elleanor is one of my favorite street snap girls. i was so happy to see her in porter robinson's music video

i wouldn't call this visual kei because no makeup but it's still pretty neat (j-punk maybe?)

>>8370933

>>8370946

>>8370935
Tbh most Jfash just doesn't appeal to me at all (even lolita, though some of it looks kind of nice). Rokku is pretty much the only thing that's managed to grab my attention and its hard to find flawless coords (I'm not a fan of animal print or band shirts which a lot of them have).

>>8370956
Only 5 more in my folder after this.

>>8370958

>>8370962

this looks like an early example of cult party kei, people in the comments were debating whether it was dolly kei or fairy kei (cult party is a hybrid)

>>8370968

>>8370935
OP here. I wouldn't mind pastel decora if it wasn't basically just fairy kei with a crap ton of accessories. Like honestly, decora, fairy kei, and OTT sweet are getting to be so damn similar in construction and color scheme there's almost no point distinguishing between them anymore.

Pic related. If you couldn't see the actual dresses in the shot, this could easily be mistaken for any single one of those styles.

>>8370972

>>8370977
Last one, and I'm not 100% on whether it qualifies as Gyaru due to lack of tan and huge hair.

>>8370977
waa where can I get a belt like that??

>>8370969
more early cult party (2011 and earlier) incoming

>>8370982

>>8370973
you don't understand what fairy kei is. it's not bright colors and a shit load of accessories, that's decora.
fairy is very, very, light pastels, and usually doesnt have that many accessories
it's extremely different from decora

>>8370991

>>8371004

>>8371002
Uh. I know. Did you read what I said? I'm saying that's what these styles are becoming. They're all just blending into one another. Fairy kei is supposed to be 80's inspired, something more akin to >>8370753
but instead, it's turning into stuff like pictured.

>>8370980
Most of the decked-out belts these girls wear are DIA, like >>8370925

>>8371014
here's some true fairy kei for ya

I've been getting really peeved recently by the amount of people who think "Oh I don't know what it is, so it must be fairy kei or larme kei!"

>>8371012

>>8371029
left girl in attached, right is supposed to be either natural or mori

>>8371031

>>8371014
I think this comes under fairy kei since it ticks the boxes - pastels, printed milklim-style skirt etc, although the hair accessories throw me off a bit.
Things like >>8370969 and >>8370851 are more decora inspired. Also >>8370753 is definitely not fairy kei, try spank! style instead.

>>8371032

>>8371038
>>8370969 is cult party. its an ott style that relies on a lot of layering and accessories, and a mix of pop and vintage elements. it branched off of dolly kei; it is much sweeter than dolly kei is

>>8370973
I have seen some pastel decora outfits that weren't fairy-decora (I actually like pastel decora as much as regular if not more because the colors are easier on my sensitive eyes), but I agree with you that all these styles are starting to blend so much that they look the same. I like crossover genres and think they're cute but It's sad to see that the original styles are harder to find. They all did start out very different looking from each other. I hope they don't die out, because I like them all for different reasons.

>>8371043
Oops,I must have messed up, I'm not sure why that ended up in there. I meant to use >>8370845 as my example.

>>8371041
middle girl is cult party

>>8371038
Ok I might be wrong but you sound really new. Like you do realize Spank! is the store that started Fairy Kei, right? They're pretty much synonymous. You can call it decora inspired or whatever you want, the point is that the styles are being smushed together so often there's hardly a way of distinguishing them these days. You can't look up decora on tumblr without getting fairy kei and sweet lolita posts mixed in, and vice versa. That's ultimately what I'm saying here.

>>8371066
I'm definitely not new. You realize the people on tumblr are tagging it as everything so that they can get notes/can't tell the differences themselves? I know Spank! started fairy kei, but nowadays they are definitely not the same thing nowadays. It's irritating me too, I want to look through the FK tags and get cute pastel stuff, not some random person in pastel pants calling it "fairy kei" so I understand where you're coming from, but they're not as smushed together as you're saying they are. I think the problem is people can't tell the differences between styles nowadays, so they end up tagging it as everything to get notes.
>pic related, Spank! fashion

>>8371044
You're right. I remember when pastel decora really started picking up and yea, it was pretty cute when done well. But as you said, it's starting to actually replace the original styles now and it just kills me a little bit.

Sage because I'm not contributing anything.

>>8371079
I am aware that people just mass tag their tumblr posts. It was a poor example, but the only one I could think to give. And fair enough, they've evolved in different directions, I'll retract my statement for that.
I guess from my perspective they're getting hella blended cuz even going on youtube to look at videos and what not, you get stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZXmt5gyv_I

It just all looks so damn similar.
Then again I'm probably just being a butthurt grandma because my favorite fashion is being overtaken by kawaii tumblr idorus. Forgive my unnecessary wrath, anon.

Contributing a pic because I don't think saging worked on my last post.

>>8371100
It seems to be a mostly western thing now that I think about it. I can understand you anon, I feel equally annoyed at it all too.
Sadly, thanks to this a lot of people just starting to wear it are getting them mixed up too.

>>8370670
>>8370683

Did we ever establish whether Junnyan actually screwed yukapon

>>8370886
I'm generally opposed to gyaru but this goes hard as fuck.

Have yourself some bonafide proto decora. None of that mintymix wig taobao graphic tee congoer bullshit you'll find in the tumblr tag.

>>8370878
>>8370886
>>8370908
>>8371034
i really like rokku gyaru. so many jfash styles are cute as fuck, and i'd love to dress that way (especially gothic lolita), but i am hesitant. i don't like revealing too much skin aside from a little bit of leg, but i like my body shape to be visible since i work hard to maintain it. rather than look like a vampire like gothic lolita or aristocrat, i wish i could look like a vampire slayer.

pic unrelated to my post, but it's my favorite kera model, machiko.

>>8371113
I know Anon, I love it.

I used to be Hot Topic trash back when that was a thing in the early 2000s, and while I find most styles that use a lot of black, buckle boots, rips, and chains revolting and kind of cringey as fuck now, I like how Rokku incorporates them without looking OTT.

Does anybody have the streetsnap of the japanese girl wearing fairy/cult party kei with a pair of ratty brown sneakers? She may have also had a stuffed animal purse? I remember seeing it months ago in an old thread and it's stuck with me. Obviously people were like EW THOSE SHOES but I really liked it. Anyways

Pic unrelated to request but I really love Dolly Kei. It's so earthy.

>>8371397
you mean this girl? i wish she'd change her damn shoes, some RHS or mary janes would look better

TF tagged this as dolly kei but it looks more cult party to me

sorry for the cult party kei spam

i want to form a gang like this

>>8371140
AHH FRUITS, I have one copy in my bookshelf

>>8372126
Don't apologize but give us moreee.

>>8372582

>>8372132
I don't think dainty little ladies have will make it in the gang business with the way Japanese gun laws are.

it's interesting how early cult party is a lot more like a sweeter dolly kei than anything else, i like seeing how the styles branched off from each other

>>8372621

Here to interrupt your regular programming. I'm hoping to get a little advice or just see how other people feel. I'm sorry if this comes out long, I'm trying to keep it short but have a habit of over-writing.

I want to start wearing cute/cool/Jfash clothes on a daily basis and expand my wardrobe to include several different fashion styles. Most of these styles are J fash, some are not. Transitioning my wardrobe and personal style is very exciting, but it's also scary.

Currently I wear Lolita maybe 4-5 times a year. I want to wear it more often but I find the clothes to be physically uncomfortable. I wear a casual outfit with a skirt about once a month on average. I don't usually find skirts uncomfortable but sometimes I feel awkward in them and that makes me uncomfortable. On a daily basis I just dress for comfort in boring clothes because I often don't feel well and my health isn't good and I want to be in clothes that are comfortable, loose and easy to move in.

By changing my style, it means going from wearing a skirt/dress once in a white to at least once a week, and hopefully a few times a week at some point. That's a really big jump for me! I'm nervous it won't work out, but I really want to do it.

I'd like to hear some advice about getting used to wearing skirts and dresses more often. I'd also like to hear about anyone else's experiences if they'd like to share. I could also use some advice to staying comfortable. One thing I did was gave up tights, they would make me feel ill due to the pressure they put on my stomach. It's a good excuse to collect fun socks.

I really like the outfit in pic related, it looks like something I could wear daily and it's cute and looks easy to move in. I think it's from Zipper. If anyone can post more casual but funky and cute Jfash pics, that would help me a lot as I'm trying to gather pics and use them to help me plan my new wardrobe!

>>8372724
Hey! I can't really comment on anything health related, but I did go through a similar thing early this year. I didn't feel well mentally due to self-esteem issues, which is why I used to dress pretty boring. Then, one day, I just decided to go ahead and wear all the clothing I had collected over the years but never wore. People were surprised at first, but actually in a positive way. I have to admit that some of my early outfits were pretty shitty, but that's just something that is very likely to happen in the beginning. Don't give up though and go ahead wearing skirts and dresses, you'll soon get the hang of what looks good on you!

Regarding your health issues: What about dresses with empire waists? I obviously have no idea what you look like and not everybody looks good in these, but they are comfy as fuck and might be a viable option.

>>8372780
>>8372724
some casual and comfy looking jfash for you

Sage for being kinda off topic, but I didn't find any other threads for this.
I really really want to start wearing jfash. I've been interested for years and I used to have a tumblr dedicated to it.
Problem is, I'm awful at coordinating.
Maybe that's not the right word though, I think if I had a decent sized closet, I'd be able to put together some cute coords. I just don't know where to start.
I kinda like a lot of different fashions (larme-key, soft sister, Mori girl fairy-lei:ish, mostly the bright or pastel ones). I honestly don't know which one to go with. And even when I've chosen, I don't know what I should start with.
I find cute clothes, but I don't think they go great together.
I've been spending hours on taobao, looking through stuff, but I don't know what I should buy to get a decent sized closet that I could mix and match.
I get anxious just thinking about it.
How do you gulls pick one fashion and stay with it? What are fundamentals for, let's say, a soft sister closet? What pieces of clothing should I get to make it work?
I know I'm kinda asking for a lot but I'm kinda depressed about it and I'm considering just dropping the whole thing.

>>8372847
soft sister isnt a real style, it's just girls who are too cheap for real jfash so they buy taobao replicas. try again

>>8372847
Try start off with the one you'd wear the most. As for coordinating, it's something you pick up after a while, so before you buy anything stop looking at individual clothes on taobao and start looking at full coordinates that you like. It's kind of like studying, but clothing instead of numbers.

>>8372724
I'd love to talk to you properly anon, sounds like your in the same boat as I am. I love skirts but I rarely get dressed up because I always feel too ill or worn out. I also have really sensitive skin so some clothes are horrible to wear.
I'll dump some casual stuff for you.

>>8372877
Same anon from last night, so there'll probably be a lot of Kyary again.

>>8372884

>>8372886

None of those feel new to me.

>>8372890

>>8372900

>>8372907
right looks really comfy

>>8372914

>>8372930
End of dump.

>>8372860
A Japanese model (Amo I think?) used to wear it a lot. I've heard it being called soft sister, and when you search for soft sister on taobao you get the same fashion
Not sure if it has another name, if you google it you'll provably get what I mean
>>8372874
I see, thanks anon.
I'll try this some, it might be a good idea

>>8370823
Are those tiny self harm scars on her leg?

>>8373000
soft sister is a chinese term for shitty offbrand/replicas of japanese brands that poor girls wear to try to emulate the style. most of the brands try to emmulate what is know known to be larme-kei in japan.

>>8373096
it's very obviously an indent from the chain.

fucking tumblr i swear.

Hey, style changing anon here! Sorry I was away. I'll probably be in and out but I appreciate the responses! I appreciate any pictures of easier to wear stuff that gets posted. I'll try to post some if I find any too. And I'm sorry if I write and it doesn't make sense, I sometimes have trouble communicating ideas.

>>8372780
Empire waists are hit and miss on me. I'm small busted but I don't always like the way they look. I think all the layers of Lolita is what makes it so uncomfortable for me to wear. It's a lot of weight and compression. I wear my things slightly big to try and help, which I know is a pet peeve for some people but I think a little looseness can be cute and it's better for me.

>>8372877
It's terrible when you want to dress up but can't. I hope we can both find some ways to wear jfash daily and casually. I'm also in the process of trying to decide what's really "me" as well, I like almost everything so it's hard for me to tell what's "me," if that makes sense.

One thing I'm scared of, besides not being able to go through with wearing skirts and dresses regularly, is that I'll spend a lot of money on something and find it doesn't work for me. I'm hoping to change my wardrobe as savings-friendly as possible, and splurge on one or two big, special items. But I don't want to do that until after I know I can wear stuff more often, and a bit like >>8372847 I'm not terrible at coordinating, but I'm not quite sure where to start with my new wardrobe.

I really like >>8372933, I'm a sucker for sailor stuff.

>>8371160
>i wish i could look like a vampire slayer

God, ideal gal right there tbh. Sage for no contribution.

>>8373242
It is. I've left a throwaway if you want to talk! I'm not too bad with this kind of stuff, so maybe I can help. The sailor dress is fron f.i.n.t I think so maybe check their shop out for stuff.

I've never heard of roku gal before this thread, but I like it. I'm not overly big on gal but that rocker element is pretty rad.

Pic related looks like a duster. You can't get much more comfortable than literal pajamas. I don't think I could pull that off.

>>8373314
I'll keep you in mind, anon! I might send you a message later if I get some time. Please don't be offended if I don't message you though, I'm really shy and I don't have a throwaway email account myself.

I'm checking that brand out right now, I like their stuff, really simple and natural looking. I'm not very familiar with many jfash brands outside the Lolita ones.

>>8373628

>>8373757
This isn't casual but it's cute fairy kei.

Bumping thread! Hope nobody minds.

Style changing anon again. I wear a lot of boy/boyish clothes casually and always felt sort of ugly looking for it, but I was looking through Kyary's OOTD pics and she wears a lot of lazy boyish stuff and looks hella cute. Made me realize that it doesn't have to be ugly just because it's boyish and plain. I still want to wear more skirts and girly things, but I'm also looking for pictures of boyish outfits too now.

Pic above me was one I found while looking. Pic I'm posting is not but I didn't want to post another picture of Kyary because there's several in the thread already.

>>8370617
Does he have enough tongues on his fugly sneakers? JFC.

How do you guys save your pics? I like to save them for inspo, and I try to give each one a file name so that they stay organized, usually a two or three part file name with the persons name and the date depending on what the picture is.

I'm organizing all my Tokyo Fashion snaps right now, and I can't decide if I should organize them by website-date-name or website-name-date.

>>8377553
i just have a folder for street snaps
also
have some more

>>8377556
whoops, just realized that this is a repeat of >>8375591
have something different in apology

>>8377556
I like to keep mine all in one folder because I like to look through everything at once sometimes, but as I collect more pictures I'm starting to think I need a couple separate folders to sort things into. But I'm not worrying about it right now. I never know how I should label and sort things though.

I like to use such detailed file names because, besides for organizing, I want to remember where I found them and who the person is in case they are taken off the internet or reverse image searching fails me, and I like to see how looks change over time, either collectively or a single person's style. Also If I ever show someone the pictures or share them I want to be able to give proper credit.

bumping thread because I'm paranoid I'll get up tomorrow and it will be gone.

>>8372724
OPs are looser and more comfortable than skirts because they don't have elastic digging into your waist (apart from the petticoat you'll need). If you want comfy lolita, empire-waisted OPs are probably a good bet, or more fitted ones that have shirring.

>>8380008
Yes, I've been thinking that I should get OP's for Lolita wear. I really like the look of JSKs because they're so iconic and I love skirts and how versatile they are, but I know OPs will probably be more comfortable.

Right now I don't want to add to my Lolita wardrobe, unless of course Bodyline brings that one sailor dress to their overseas site and it's not crazy overpriced. It's really small and I don't have any big brand pieces, but my daily wardrobe is a mess and I want to focus on that since Lolita will probably never be a daily thing for me. The good thing is that I've never had an issue with regular skirts since I can get them in a looser fit and it's fine, it's just a matter of not being used to wearing them regularly.

It's so hard figuring out where to start with my wardrobe since almost every other style/look I want to wear uses casual clothes. With styles like Lolita, at least you can easily know where to start since you need specific specialty items to get the look.

Complete newfag here, sorry for asking but what is an OP?
I only know it as original poster..

>>8380201
i can tell you're not a lolita. probably a cosplayer. anyways
op= one piece (doesn't need to be worn with blouse)
jsk= jumper skirt (must be worn with blouse, lots of noobs don't realize this)
sk= skirt (must be worn with blouse, but that's fairly obvious)

>>8380214
>>8380201
JSKs have no sleeves and OPs do.

>>8380066
When I was sorting out my normie wardrobe, I started by getting rid of stuff I hated, didn't fit or was worn out, then filled in the gaps from there.

>>8380231
(I can post the shopping list I have for normie clothing if you like, with notes for which fashion style each item is for).

>>8380217
which is why it needs to be worn with a blouse
>capcha is asking me to select sushi and there's some kind of swastika in the upper left corner

I love Kyary for her fashion sense and she seems like a pretty genuine and fun person, but her music doesn't appeal to me with the exception of like two songs. Her singing is cute, but the songs themselves are pretty generic and blah. I know she's not the one who writes the stuff, she's a pop idol and people write everything for her, she just preforms. I do hope she's happy with the career she's made though. It must be fun but also scary and exhausting. I certainly wouldn't want that kind of fame for sure.

>>8380239
I wouldn't mind seeing it if you would want to post it, it might give me a better sense of direction for myself.

>>8382479
These are really cute and pretty casual.

Here's some old style decora for you, OP! Sorry it was posted in the last decora thread I think, but maybe you hadn't seen or.

>>8382479
This is really cute! I like the punk vibe. Is this really gyaru (like the url says), though?

>>8382575
I don't think it's gyaru specifically, more like gyaru inspired? But I agree, its cute and punky without being edgy, not that edgy is always a bad thing. The picture itself is from Alice Deco.

>>8383201
Sad that the brand seems to have gone out of business. I would have loved to buy some of those clothes.

>>8383620
That's a shame! I didn't know they went out. I liked a lot of their clothes.


I am looking for help if anyone can give me some. I'm so frustrated with this and I desperately need some advice.

Any tips to start dressing "Harajuku-ish?" I mean to say, there's a lot of Jfash snaps of people with their own style that doesn't belong to an established fashion type.

Examples so it makes more sense what I mean:
>>8370940
>>8370788
>>8372914
>>8370753
and pic related

I love the creativity in these kind of looks, they are so fun and cheerful and laid back and full of quirk and personality. I would love to be able to dress up like this. But for some reason I can't figure out how to do it. Everyone is always mismatched or mixing patterns and colors but they don't look bad or unmatched at all. Whenever I try to dress like this, I either end up being too matchy matchy so I don't have the right look and I end up looking more like an edgy teenager, or I end up looking stupid and horrible, like I dressed myself with my eyes closed. It also seems like ideas that look good laid out on my bed always look worse when I actually wear them.

Is there some kind of trick to coordinating outfits like this? Is it just a matter of owning the fact you are dressed in clothes that don't match and having fun with it even if you look dumb? Do you just need to have a natural born talent for knowing how to put together an outfit so quirky?

>>8383925
I think the trick is balance. These kind of looks might combine wildly different colors and themes, but they are usually spread throughout the entire outfit. The right person in your pic has that star theme going on pretty strong, but they also have the light colors in both the under-hoodie (?) and the hair clips. It's hard to pull of that kind of look, but maybe you could try coming up with different matchy themes, then combine them?

You also have to accept that you're going to look ridiculous no matter what and that you have to own that ridiculousness.

I found some snaps of Swankiss staff sporting teddy's over tshirts. Here's one

>>8384067
and another

>>8384068
Oh this is awful, why would you want to wear a nightie in public?

>>8384107
its called fashion look it up

>>8384057
I've noticed that I don't think I've ever seen a westerner dress this way and look good. I wonder if the people living over in Japan have a better feel for doing it because they have more exposure and access to it?

I recently tried to coordinate something the other day with a star/boystyle theme and thought it was balanced at first, then as the day went on I noticed how it just didn't look right at all. Maybe I need more practice and new clothes to work with. I hope one day I'll get the hang of it.

As long as I'm happy with an outfit I have no issues owning it, but when I feel like it's not right then I don't so much.

>>8384108
it's shite fashion

>>8384108
Just because it's "fashion" doesn't necessarily mean it looks good.

>>8384690
And just because you don't like it doesn't mean others can't.

>>8384068
>>8384067
I think it looks dumb but super cute at the same time. I wouldn't wear it but I don't hate it.

I love all the newer trends that use light and airy colors and fabrics, but I can't wear that kind of stuff because even though I'm gentle on my clothes I'm guaranteed to either somehow stain them or snag them because I'm an absolute klutz.

>>8384692
some things are objectively bad, like wearing knickers on your head

like it all you want but going outside like that is just going to look ridiculous

Bumpin', thread is almost to the bottom and I don't want it to fall off.

I'm still looking for pictures for inspo, and any advice anyone might have, so I'm also bumping this >>8372724.

I actually wore a skirt twice last week, but it was a little exhausting. Hopefully I can aim for my goal of once a week and get used to it. My coordinating skills are really rusty right now. I need more practice.

I love the outfit in this picture, looks so cool.

>>8384711
>it looks ridiculous
if you're on this board it either means you spend thousamds of dollars to dress up like fictional characters or rich victorian era girls

>>8387176

>>8370874
yes please

>>8371107
YUKAPON TRUTH

>>8372890
I am in love with these shoes but I have no idea how to find them/what brand they are/anything. Help, gulls?

>>8372895
None of them are, this thread is primarily old rokku gyaru, early cult party kei and random old decora pics

this feels like a j-fash nostalgia thread to me

>>8380239
please do anon

>>8384107
i mean wearing lingerie as outerwear is a pretty big trend in japan already, considering the prevalence of peignoirs in CPK and sometimes fairy kei. also the trend for airy and sheer fabrics is huge.

>>8387502
No idea, but if you want them bad enough and can't find them anywhere, they seem super easy to DIY.

So what's this? Is it decora? Fairy kei? A Hybrid? None of the above? I'm not sure, but I came across it tagged as decora on twitter I think. It caught my attention because she's not Japanese

>>8388159
Hot mess?

>>8380255
Don't worry, I'll never break the blouse rule

>>8388159
It looks like she was trying for decora, but it didn't come out right. I'm not a fan, she needs some major coordinating practice.

I need coord practice, actually. I shtere a way to improve your eye for that sort of thing without actually having to create a buttload of outfits with your IRL clothes? Like, can you draw to practice, or does looking at lots of snaps help? Obviously cording with your IRL clothes is the best option but I don't have a lot to work with right now, I need to buy some new things and I can't figure out what I need to get and where the holes in my wardrobe are.

>>8384711
If it was objectively bad, it would offend everyone's sensibilities. Obviously that isn't that case. Stop pretending your opinion is law.

>>8387543
I was thinking that and it's probably what I'll end up doing. Thanks.

>>8388219
Create a collage of your coord ides.

Hi, it's >>8372724 again. While looking at some different pictures I started to realize that at times the only difference between slightly quirky, frumpy or outdated western clothes and casual J fashion, besides the more frequent use of skirts, is the hair and make up. I don't wear make up daily beyond a little lip gloss at the most. Does that mean I'll never have the right look if I don't start wearing make up every day?

>>8389550
It's fine to go with a more natural look, just take care of your skin, and style your hair well (it's fine if it's simple, just needs to look good with the outfit). You could also try experimenting with more make-up, and see if that looks better. Not wearing a lot of make-up always makes it look more casual than if you did, but that's not always a bad thing.

In your pic, left would probably be fine without the make-up, but I think right's eyeshadow really makes a difference. It makes the outfit much more interesting to me.

>>8389733
Thank you for your honest opinion and advice. I love make up a lot, but I hate actually wearing it. I agree that a more casual look isn't always a bad thing and since I'm aiming for a more casual look maybe I'll be alright then. If my outfits don't feel right I'll try to experiment a little with some really simple make up stuff and see if that makes the difference.

I like to keep my hair styled simple or just left down but it looks like that's how most girls in J fashion do their hair too so I'm not as worried about that.

>>8392527

>>8389550
You need to wear eyeliner at least

>>8392584
Thanks for your input. Can I ask why eyeliner specifically?

I always feel like wearing it makes my eyes look smaller and hides how long my eyelashes are. I can never get the stuff cleaned off my face all the way either, I always end up with coon eyes for a week after I wear it and it irritates my eyes.

>>8392599
Eyeliner really makes your eyes pop, and you can change your look simply by how you line your eyes. If you have long lashes already you can curl them and set then with a clear mascara.

>>8392621
Thanks for answering me, and I suppose it does make the eyes pop. If I have trouble with getting my look right I'll start experimenting with eyeliner and see if that helps to tie everything together.

When I have to wear mascara I actually like to wear the lengthening kind because it makes my lashes comically long like fake lashes would be, ha ha ha. I should get some clear mascara though because one of the several reasons I hate wearing make up is that it's so messy and never comes off all the way.

>>8393527

>>8393540
Whoa, this is super cute! I wish I had the confidence to show off so much skin.

How does one find their "true" individual style? I like all different kinds of fashion styles, but I don't want to just follow a single fashion style or two, I want to figure out what's "me."
I know the easiest way to figure it out is to just buy and wear what I truly like, but I feel like if I do that I won't look fashionable at all, and I feel like I can't tell the difference between things I like and things I like for me personally, because I can like something but not feel comfortable wearing it. For example, I tried to make a collage of outfits I liked in order to try to figure out my own personal style, but after finishing and looking at it I realized that even though I like so many of the outfits, a lot of them were things I'd never actually wear even though I loved them.
In this kind of fashion, how do you stay true to yourself? I'm at such a loss for this, I've been trying to find my individual style for a few months now and can't seem to find it.

>>8393686
i just bought stuff and then tried/failed till i found something(gyaru) and now i know what to buy.

for me it was half not being true to myself and half looking actually better in the clothes/makeup.

there's going to be a bit of money loss but you can usually either find stuff to try on the cheap or resell it.

to me that risk was one i was willing and happy to take to find out what i loved and was really 'me'.

>>8393573
Same, it's the main thing stopping me from getting into gyaru. The makeup I do daily is gyaru-esque, wouldn't call it gyaru because lack of gyaru hair/clothes/and flat eyebrows instead of bleached and arched. I really like rokku

>>8393699
This is great too. Those killer boots. Ugh yeah I don't like to show off my skin that much, that's why I like the cuter styles since they tend to cover up more.

>>8393745
>>8393699
for me it was the opposite, i worked out till my body was bangin and hiding it just wasn't doing it for me, i wanted to flaunt my stuff so gyaru was the way to go.

I got a chuckle out of this.
To be honest it's cute though.
1/2

>>8395224
2/2

>>8395224
I feel like I should be worried about myself for actually loving the way this looks.

Thought I guess American fashion magazines have been glamourizing the "American Lolita" and taking fashion inspiration from it for a while.

I feel so conflicted.

>>8392527
Does anyone know if that skirt is for sale somewhere?

I'm really curious, are most of these girls wearing lingerie and pajamas layered over cutsews? The western style lingerie I find in thift stores are too sexy

>>8395421
I have no idea, sorry. I couldn't find anything on it. But I swear I've seen it before. Hopefully someone else has an answer for you.

>>8395224
I just read a Japanese girl's blog that referring to what girls here have been calling "larme-kei" as "American Lolita" in Japan. After searching the term and seeing similar looking things and a few other blogs mentioning the phrase, I'm starting to think this is what they're actually calling it over there and it wasn't just a cute title page for that magazine spread. I don't know if it is really called that officially or not but if it is I have some very mixed feelings about it. Lord knows we don't need another fashion style with the word "Lolita" in it anywhere, especially one that's actually appears to be based on the western meaning, but I actually like the style, thinks it's adorable, and have always liked the name Lolita. I'm super curious about how the trend came to be. I need to do more reading about it.

>>8395717
Yes, they usually are. Sometimes it's specially made new stuff (rarely), I know Fifi Chancil and Olympia le Tan are two very popular brands for new lingerie. More commonly it's vintage stuff, from the early 80s or earlier, which I've always found to be more conservative than newer stuff. Usually they're only wearing lingerie "outerwear", though, like pegnoirs or housecoats.

There are also a lot of lingerie-look items out now. Swankiss, WEGO, eHyphen World Gallery (especially their collaborations with Amo), and Mon Lily do a lot of that type of faux lingerie meant to be worn as regular clothing. But

>>8395732
Okay now I'm seeing people referring to it as "Larme-kei" and "American Lolita." Makes me wonder then if they were experimenting with calling it that, or if it doesn't have a name and so people are just calling it whatever. I'm really curious about all this but I don't speak or read a word of Japanese, only using google translate.
Sorry if I'm just clogging up the thread, but I was surprised when I seen this and thought it might be of interest to somebody because I remember there being a thread a while back where people were trying to figure out what this style was called.

>>8395732
>>8395785
If you do find out more info please share! I love this style, and I want to find out more about it.

>>8395735
Thanks for the reply! Do you have any other info about what stores cater to the style?

>>8370719
Why are Americans so weird about making everything sexual? That's a normal cute outfit.

>>8396016
People in general make everything sexual. It sucks because not everything has to be about sex.
I think it's a cute basic outfit too but based on experience it would probably get sexualized. I live in a small town in the mid west and wearing a skirt is enough to get you attention. People around here just don't "dress up" or wear anything that didn't come from the nearest department store.

>>8395143
omg where can i find similar otks?

>>8392599
You probably need makeup remover if that's happening. I use a maybelline oil based one, and all my waterproof makeup comes off easily with no irritation, and my eyes are sensitive, so yeah. You'll probably need to shell out money for good stuff but it's worth it. Cheap stuff won't work. Start out with oil based or felt tip, and then gradually move to using liquid.

Anyway, more natural/mori or dolly pls?

>>8396330
Fuck lol, I mean oil based/felt tip eyeliner.

>>8396414

>>8396418

>>8396421

>>8396423

>>8395732
>>8392527
Aw, thanks anyway:) But I did manage to find it (thank god for reverse image searches) too bad it's 10,584 yen maybe some day...
http://kerashop.jp/top/detail/asp/detail.asp?scode=31305528H02106

Pic unrelated

>>8370617
WHERE CAN I GET THAT HAT?!

>>8395995
Off the top of my head:
>Milk (sometimes, they have a lot of cutsews that girls seem to use)
>Katie
>Cerise
>Candy Stripper
>EHyphen World Gallery
>WEGO
>The Virgin Mary (formerly known as Cult Party)
>Spank! (more rarely, but a good source for vintage, they're more 1980s than the soft flows look you usually see)
>Mon Lily
>Basically anywhere that sells "soft sister" or larme kei

I love Rokku gal. I still wear it even if it is horribly out of date now.

It's perfectly gothic without looking like Marilyn Manson threw up.

I can't find shorts anymore. Instead of looking like hot pants all shorts where I live are now cut like daisy dukes.

Great I'm sure for some but on me not only does it further accentuate the tennessee accent but then half my ass cheek also hangs out. I can't wear shorts cut like a V and all shorts seem to now be cut like a V.

I don't mind short shorts, I want them. I don't want my ass hanging out though.

>>8381961
Yea infact anon. I dont understand all tbis Kyary craze because there is way better jmusic around that is less popular.

>>8382545
Sauce how i can find similar (pink and gigham) skirts that wont cost a lot?

>>8372930
Is a Milklim dress? Need more confy dresses like this but everything on the site was sold out.

>>8396600
Here's a few that are definitely cheap but don't really have the same effect as the ones in the pic upthread:
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18858018869
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.8.WVJEOs&id=41330507292&ns=1&abbucket=1#detail
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.WVJEOs&id=37444644417&ns=1&abbucket=1#detail
>this last one is for a dress but the seller might have something better?
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.35.tPFp7z&id=39022853877&ns=1&abbucket=1#detail
Those may not be what you're looking for but I think they're cute. Definitely look on taobao and check out the taobao haul thread.

Check out Bodyline, their stuff is generally cheap but some of it is kinda pricey. Here's a link to the lolita skirts:
http://www.bodyline.co.jp/bodyline/showAll.asp?type=left&subType1=Lol&subType2=Ski

Sorry that wasn't better, hopefully somebody else can get what you're looking for if this doesn't help.

>>8387502
I said I had no idea a few days ago, but after taking another look I think I know where they came them. It looks like Kyary bought them back in 2012 and at one time they were being sold here http://www.ambidex-store.jp/ but they seem to not carry them anymore. They do carry them in a loafer style, but I don't care for them. http://www.ambidex-store.jp/products/detail.php?product_id=10127

>>8397555
So, it looks like DIY is going to be the best option for you unless you like them in the loafer style.

ANNNNND Images are maxed out. I'll start a new J-fash general in a couple minutes, but I'm taking a break from CGL in the next day or two and I don't know how long before I'll be back. I just need a break from this place and from being on the computer so much. So hopefully lots of great outfits will get posted before I leave so I don't feel like I missed any.

>>8396298
PredatorRat

>>8396263
God, its so annoying. I live in the Midwest and constantly see girls wearing shirts with leggings and engineer boots. Im so sick of this leggings as pants trend. The styles you mainly see in the US are trendy, boho, sporty, and casual and maybe 90s vintage or indie if youre lucky (for millenials). I occasionally see feminine classic styles but it seems rare. I really wish there were brands similar too swankiss, liz lisa, or others named itt.

Sorry for the OT rant.