/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

some months ago I remember seeing a link to this new website for lolita shit, I think it was kind of along the lines of a lolita social network. anyone know what I'm talking about? does it still exist?

>>8291623
I fucking love this photo but lost it on my old, dead hard drive - may all your dreams come true, new lolita general anon.

>>8291630
lacebook? pretty sure it's dead in the water

>>8291677
Oh I remember that. I think they went way too far with the whole security thing, jesus. I understand not wanting random pedo's to look at your coords, but I remember you having to get a code from someone you know, and you can only give out so many at a time, so some people had to be left out for a little while. By the time the month ended, people started to loose interest in their comm. Besides, CoF doesn't have a rating system, but it has a wider audience and it does a similar task yet is less of a pain in the ass.

Also reposting my question from >>8291529 since the other post is on auto sage and I suck at timing.
>I may be actually wanting the Taobao thread on this one, but is there any way to buy Long Ears and Sharp Ears reserve and newest stuff on their Taobao? I want the Goldfish and Fireworks series but the my currency is still shit right now compared to the USD. I looked at their taobao and I can't find it. Is it possible and I'm just being retarded, or do they just prefer to deal with their new crap on storenvy or what?

>>8291459
Nah not really ita, just super old. Standards and rules were a bit different back then cause everybody was still learning and lolita was still kinda developing. It's just evolved a bit.

>>8291632
aw, I'm glad I helped you find it again anon.

how long does lockshop take to process your order? i had one of those payment error notices but it def charged my paypal and i eventually got a notice from lockshop saying payment was accepted. i'm just wondering if i should message them at all to confirm everything is alright or just wait a while longer? (it's been like 2 or 3 days)

are lumiebre umbrellas worth the amount of money?

>>8291812
Depends on if you like the design of it enough? I mean, it functions as a perfectly good umbrella, if that's what you're asking, so if the designs are worth shelling out vs an offbrand frilly umbrella for you, sure. Mine seems sturdy enough and I've received a lot of compliments on it, I've only used it a handful of times though.

Personally I wouldn't get one that can't be used in rain just because I wouldn't use a sun parasol enough to justify the cost.

>>8291860
yeah I was just wondering if they were good working umbrellas. I don't mind shelling out the money for a cute design but I wouldn't wanna spend $80 on something that won't keep my ass dry in the rain when I do use it. (I don't know why there wouldn't be a reason for the items labelled as umbrellas to not work as functioning umbrellas but yeah)

Alright gulls, problem here, a while ago I fell in love with bodyline's military sweets print, particularly in mint. I originally wanted the OP but it's been sold out on the website and I had little luck finding it second hand, so I figured I also liked the skirt well enough, and I basically accepted my fate of getting the skirt. I figured it would be easier to coord anyways, and had lined up a blouse and some accessories to go with it and I was going to buy it during the projected ""spring sale"".
However, I just saw the OP in mint in my size on lace market and now I'm torn because while I love the style it's going to be more difficult to coord and I don't know what to do. Any thoughts?

>>8291968
Why not both? they're cheap enough. If you get two, you can always sell one down the road.

>>8291972
I thought about that but there's just something about buying the same print and colour way in two different cuts that doesn't sit well with me
like its the mentality of I could have had two different prints instead of just the one.
idk I might just end up getting the op and seeing if I like it on, and then go from there.

Asked about it in a previous thread, now I have set a price: Is $350-$400 an okay asking price for a lavender Marine Kingdom OP? I am not as in love with it as I thought I would be.

>>8292165
yes. better to go higher and lower it if no one bites then sell it for less than you could get

>>8291697
It could've been super good, though, so it's kind of sad. There was both a blogging system and message boards, so it could have replaced LJ

>>8292165
Yes thats a good deal for it.

>>8291784
This happened to me a few weeks ago and I emailed them about it. They said everything's fine, Paypal's just a butt sometimes.

So I was looking into the Infanta fruit pie JSK but do you think it would be better to go blue jsk with red accessories or red JSK with mostly light blue acessories, this would be my first coord too so i dont really know if buying the infanta version would really matter over buying the Bodyline ripoff version though I think I like infanta's lace better...

What taobao brands are high quality? I saw some pieces from a few different brands in person a few days ago and the quality was equivalent to about Forever21 and the fabrics were really cheap.

>>8292314
well, my nameless poem OP is surprisingly high quality for taobao but it seems like the other things they sell are very different (classic/sweet classic prints?) so I dont know about the rest of their stuff.

do you know exactly what brands you saw?

also, building off anon, would love to know the quality of elpress's OP's

>>8292307
Do yourself a favor and go with the one that has nicer lace, please. Also, I'd recommend blue jsk + red accessories. The sax seems like it'd be easier to coord with other colors down the road, whereas red is kind of limiting because it can be so jarring.

>>8291630
I'm currently working on one right now - the backend is being coded but we're setting it out somewhat like Lookbook.
Here's a picture of the very very barebones of how it will function. Infinite scrolling, comprehensive tag system and a "Voting" system is going to be in the first release, then we'll look into a favourites system etc in the future.
Disregard the basic design for the moment though - we just sent this to the coder so he knows what kind of stuff he needs to add in.

>>8292321
HOT DOG. sad lacemarket is a thing since I just started posting outfits and would've loved to interact with people on there, but this looks super cool. good luck anon! I'm really excited for it.

when do you think it'll be ready? also how will sign-ups work? will there be an approval system or free to join?

>>8292317
I only remember Souffle Song because of the print.

>>8292327
>sad lacemarket is a thing

??? don't know what I was trying to type there...I meant to say "sad lacebook isn't a thing anymore"

>>8291968
Honestly the dress looks poorly fitted on most people. Look at the model, the whole thing looks baggy and just off. I think it's that the sleeve hole and sleeve aren't properly fitted together because it looks bad on this model, too. It looks like they can't raise their elbows above their waist comfortably. I bought the skirt (in black) because I thought having the embellishments up to the neckline looked a little tacky, and I'm really happy with my choice. However I do warn you that I've seen the mint in person and it's actually a pretty vivid green in real life, definitely not as pastel or subtle as it looks in the ads. But anyway I'd go for the skirt.

>>8292327
Free to join when we start it up! None of that invitation bullshit. I can't really say -when- it would be ready until the backend is completed (Which could be done tomorrow, or like in a month since our programmer likes to sleep and has uni, don't want to push him!)
I want to say "Soon"? But I'll be posting about it in Lolita generals whenever we have updates and stuff, including any status feeds we have (Maybe twitter?)
To begin with we'll be hosting the images through the imgur API (Private account) when things get started and then we'll see how the bandwidth is and look into hosting/advertising space.
Ideally it'll be a "Okay it's open, go nuts" kind of thing; the more people signing up the better.

>>8292327
you made me want a hot dog :(

>>8292318
>>8292307
Okay so i'll definitely stick with infanta, my original idea was to coord the dress (either red or blue) with strawberry tights and the bag pictured with the dresses along with shoes/cardigan of the color not chosen for the dress, but I could do the redishbrown colorway and do a more classical/sweet coord than a sweet/ott coord, do you have any preferance/suggestions on what ive got going so far? I really dont want to look like a trainwreck...

>>8292335
awesome, it sounds and looks pretty cool so far, so I'm excited to see where it goes. can't wait to join!

>>8292341
that was my plan all along

>>8288557

Ok Disclaimer:

I have not ordered from Cyperous in 4 years. I looked back to my last order for you and tried my memory to figure out how to do this.

Here's some screens. I could use some assistance on if they mean hyphen or no hyphen on the credit card. I also forget how they like the address input.

>>8292370

>>8292372

>>8292378

>Lolita meet up at a mall
>girl brought her boyfriend
>boyfriend is obviously not into it
>girl tells her boyfriend that he doesn't have to stay for the meet up
>she gives him $40 and tells him to go someplace for the time being

>>8292370
this is really great anon, thank you so much. definitely gives me something to go on.

>go to a Lolita meet up
>hardly ever say anything other than introducing myself to the group
>group is all talkative with each other
>I usually just sit there quietly eating or drinking or trying to fixate on something
>most of the time I'm just imagining myself being more talkative and involved with the group
>I get so lost in my thoughts that I start mumbling and doing hand gestures as if I'm actually talking to someone
>someone in group has to keep snapping at me or waving their hand in my face to 'bring me back to reality'
>leave group without saying anything because so embarrassed and always feel awkward

>>8292407
No problem, sorry it took so long to find time to do.

Another note: Make sure absolutely your card info is correct. It will 'credit check you', don't worry it will not charge you. When the next monthly billing comes it will charge you the proper amount then. So if the yen magically goes to a weird exchange during that time, it will be charged as such and not at the rate of your original purchase time. There's normally an exchange rate fee of a few dollars by your card company too.

do you guys consider someone whose wardrobe consists mostly of big ticket/popular items to have good taste?

obviously the pieces are popular because people want them, hence having a wardrobe full of them connotates good taste, but is that actually so?


>mfw US spellcheck underlines connotates

>>8292421
Aww hun. That is terrible! If the meet was very recent, go to the comm page and say sorry for not being very talkative, but that you were nervous to meet so many new people! Some have done this on my comm page before and we are very understanding - I for one make an extra effort to include those people at meet ups.

Go to a smaller meet and I am sure you will be able to find someone to befriend.

>>8292548
It depends on if it's a cohesive collection overall, or if it seems like they're going for popular items for the sake of it.

>>8292421
work on your social skills before you go outside again

>>8292314
chess story's blouses are bodyline tier fabric, I once got one and it felt a bit plasticy and it made noises when I moved my arms

>>8291709
I know that, I still think it either looks like shit or looks like western goth in the first photo.

>>8292548
Nope, not if it's not cohesive. Like I wouldn't think badly of someone who had every popular chocolate item or something but if it was just a mishmash of random shit that was popular recently I'd assume they had no independent sense of taste.

>>8292314
I got a CEL jsk that's perfectly fine. It has a pattern printed on that aatp would have weaved in but aside from that there's not much different. It's not like brand shines in all regards either.

>>8292584
Sounds like you're talking about the Unicorn Castle blouse, which is the only one I've ever purchased from them that fits that description. Their chiffon stuff is really nice (like the Le Printemps blouse) and I highly recommend it.

Does anybody remember the name of the girl who does those completely black wardrobe posts? Google and the archive aren't helping right now.

>>8292584
I got their starry night angel blouse and it was like this plus the sleeves were short as fuck for some reason. The JSK was nice and the lace was soft so I don't know why the blouse for the set was so shitty.

>>8293050
obsixwi?

>>8290460
>>8290405

For anon who requested a photo of my headbow with the folded tails. It didn't occur to me to use glue, and anyway mine was better sewn because of the interfacing in between the layers.

>>8292331
I think that's the info that I needed, thank you! I've got sorta broad shoulders already so I imagine if it fits weird on someone with normal proportions it will look twice as weird on me. I'll go with the skirt! Thank you anon!!

any predictions how this one will go?
I would think that it will be super crazy and have potentinal to be a MTO release but I somewhat doubt it, with both berry prints getting a MTO release this would be too much.

>>8293059
that was me! thank you so much anon its super cute!

>>8292421
Oh man anon, sometimes when I'm say, travelling on the bus on my own and have thoughts passing through my head, it sometimes feels like my lips are moving as I remember and play over conversations I've had with people. Good to know it's not just me that does shit like that. For what it's worth, I thought your greentext was kinda adorable in a goofy kinda way.

See, we're not socially awkward and weird, we're endearingly eccentric, just like a kawaiii uggu animu character, right? Right?

>>8293109
Doubt it'll get MTO. Doesn't look like it's going to show up well enough in photos to be bonkers popular on its own terms instead of just holy lantern's forgettable cousin

>>8292335
This is exciting.
>>8291677
>>8291697
Is lacebook actually dead through? I know they were originally only doing it as an experiment and so it was only for their friends, and so then the internet got salty and wanted to join.
It was really good, I liked how people could say if they did or didn't want crit and I liked that it was a little hard to get onto. Anything new will just be full of weebs.

>>8292165
I-is it really going for that much now? I have the OP in navy and while I do love it, I was hoping to trade it for a diff colorway or the JSK.

>>8292558
Every comm needs more people like you. You sound like a complete sweetheart, anon.

So I've been following where my package is at on the Japanese EMS tracking page and the item is now in my country, however the final update simply says 'Retention'. Is this something I should be concerned about or pretty standard? I'm worrying that it's been taken in by the customs goblins or something and they're currently standing over my package of burando whilst cackling 'you belong to us now my pretty'!!

>>8293135
The annoying thing about Lacebook was that they advertised it in multiple places and then when others wanted to join, they went "oh no its just for our friends, teehee!". It's tacky, like advertising a private meetup on a comm's main page. I would have like to see it take off, though.

Do some people here ever bough clothes on Wholesalelolita.com? Or do you have any experience with this website?

>>8293164

In my country it means the package is waiting at the post office for me to pick it up (after having failed delivery). After a certain number of days it'll get sent back to sender, so you should definitely call your local post office, verify that your package is there and go pick it up quickly.

>>8293199
I have never bought from them but they look like a Taobao reseller and an expensive one at that. There are cheaper ones with the same stuff, like Clobbao, Qutieland an My Lolita Dress (which is not Milanoo)

>>8293232
I was looking at that website only because of the victorians dresses and I didn't saw any on the websites you talked about

>you're the only non-slut in the comm

>>8293238
...because we assumed you meant lolita. Reverse image search the things you want and use a taobao shopping service

>>8293284
Yup, that's what I'm doing but still, thanks for the advices and the websites too (I did find nice things)

>>8293109
I want this dress so bad and I wish I could get it.

>>8293270
pics or it didn't happen

>>8293178
This. It was like, trying to be an an exclusive club in an already exclusive fashion hobby?? And no one wanted to be responsible for inviting that friend who is secretly a seagull. It can rot in internet hell for all I care.

>>8292757
nah, it was a black long sleeve blouse with pearls on the collar and a bowtie. didn't purchase it from chess story directly, so don't know if is has an official name.

>>8293053
yup, the sleeves on my blouse were very short too for a longsleeved blouse. normally I have trouble finding a longsleeve blouse that doesn't go past my palm, so you can imagine how short it was

>>8293109
Is it going to be a blood bath?

Would anyone be willing to help translate this Japanese for me? It's on a listing on Y!Japan, it looks like they don't sell to bidding SS's? Have any of you dealt with this?

Original text:
"※キャンセルされる方は絶対に入札なさらないでください!!即ブラリです!!
必ず上記事項をよくお読みください!!

海外代理業者の方や日本語が十分に理解できない方の入札は固くお断りいたします!!

※最近オーク終了後落札していながら当方のナビを早急にお送りしているにもかかわらず返信が
たいへん遅れる方が多いです迷惑ですので落札後は速やかに連絡の取れる方のご入札をお待ちいたしております。"

>>8293109
I really like the print, but it doesn't show up at all so whats the point

>>8292321
This looks like a cool idea, anon. Are you working on any community aspects for the site or is it going to be like Lookbook in terms of community as well as design? Good luck!

>>8292343
Personally, I love the wine/dark red color way. If you're just starting out, a deciding factor should be what colors you want to keep using in your wardrobe. If you think you'll get a lot of wear out of, say, dark brown shoes and a pale pink or white blouse to go with the wine color JSK, go for it. If you're aiming more for "true" sweet instead of sweet classic as an overall vibe, go for pale blue and get red shoes and accessories.

Personally I don't much like bright red JSKs at all, so take my opinions with a grain of salt. I'm sure other anons like red JSKs just fine.

>>8292548
Not really. If it's all or mostly big-ticket items with interconnected themes and colors, and I can tell they put in time thinking about how they wanted their wardrobe to be (i.e. they aren't just buying full sets of popular releases), then I'm impressed. If their selection of accessories and shoes and blouses is interesting and unique, I'm even more impressed.

>>8293055
yes! thanks anon!

>>8293109
Aw man I actually love how subdued the print is for this release, and the name is hilarious to me for some reason. I hope it gets MTO, although it probably won't. I still don't understand why they'd MTO 2 berry print dresses in a row without doing an MTO for something different.

How did you do?

What the fuck is this all about? Do you gulls think it's true? (from lovelylor's tumblr)

>>8293795
>why aren't we talking about this
Maybe because the girl tweeted at lovelylor instead of posting in a facebook group ??? I'd like to hear more though. 30 dresses, wtf that's my whole wardrobe

>>8293795
found out who the alleged victim is and i'm fucking dying laughing

>>8293150
awww
I am not really that nice of a person, but I used to be the one who couldn't talk to anyone and I always want to include people because I know how crappy it feels to be the outsider.

>>8293814
Who? What happened?

>>8292343
Personally I think the blue is the only colourway that really looks nice. The red is a little bright and harder to coord with multiple colours (you can basically just do red, white and maybe brown but borwn could look ugly, whereas the blue would look cute with blue, white, red or brown), and I'm not a big fan of the brown. Infanta makes both look nicer than Bodyline did though.

>>8293814
who is it?

>>8292401
This is funny, but also why doesn't he have his own $40? You had to agree to come dude, was it just because you knew she'd give you cash to go away??

>>8292314
White Moon has incredible quality I love my blouse and JSK from there. Super soft chiffon and lovely details. I also like r-series. I have a blouse from them and it's so pretty and soft and the embroidery in the collar!

Was anybody else shocked about the AP release today? I haven't been keeping up until I checked the USA site today and saw this print called "Dolly Cat." I'm really disappointed in AP. Animals are people, not pets. Usually AP is really good about portraying animals in positive positions, like leading a symphony or hosting tea parties, but in this case the pets are obviously housecats and the pedestals they are sitting on even display their slave names.
I realize not everyone agrees with this idea but AP is better than this. I'm disappointed.

>>8293879
1/10

>>8292331
>Honestly the dress looks poorly fitted on most people. Look at the model, the whole thing looks baggy and just off. I think it's that the sleeve hole and sleeve aren't properly fitted together because it looks bad on this model, too. It looks like they can't raise their elbows above their waist comfortably.
I can definitely confirm this. Really a shame since the bodice design was all I liked about it, but the fit is really disappointing.

>>8292314
Dear Celine. Especially their blouses.

>>8293814
Seriously... deets?

>>8291812
I have one and I love it, it has a kind of lining? Definitely one of my favourite buys

>>8293592
Yeah it says that foreign agents are prohibited from bidding as well as those that can't speak Japanese well enough to understand the transaction. Tbh though, if you're using an agent that has a fairly generic, non-obvious 'agent sounding' user name you may get away with it.

I've found it odd how some Y!Japan users are anti agents, I mean, they get their money either way and in fact may even end up getting more for their item than those based in Japan would be willing to pay.

>>8293212
Thanks for that anon, turns out I had a customs charge to pay, freaking $36 for an Item that only cost me $30, I hate UK customs so damn much. I can't deny that it doesn't work as a deterrent to ordinary folk though, I'm wondering if it's even worth bothering with Y!Japan again, unless it's some dream wish-list type item where money is no object (within reason).

Is there a name for these pieces of headwear? I dunno if I'm just shit at googling but the websites/blogs I've been looking at just seem to mention wide brimmed hats (which I guess are like the black ones + similar ones made of straw) or tricorns. I would like to know if there was a specific name for the flat ones, as well as the headwear in the 2 photos on the right?

Or if someone could just send me off to a good historical fashion/costuming source that goes into more detail about the hats. Really would love to make something for an OP I plan on getting.

>>8293998
Oh good I forgot to add my picture.

can someone please tell me what dress this is
i asked her and all she said was china

>>8294012
magicteaparty

>>8294004

Try touring hats, derby hats, easter hats.

But I'm looking for some good loliable ones too so I might have to fight you for a good one.

>>8294004
The flat ones are called bergere hats. You can find blank undecorated ones from reenactment suppliers.

>>8294017

haven't really seen too many nice ones for sale so I'm just going to take matters into my own hands and make one, haha. if it comes out alright maybe I'll think about selling them in the future!

>>8294030

thanks anon! I did find something exactly what I'm looking for if anyone else (first anon?) is interested: http://jas-townsend.com/ladies-straw-p-263.html
http://jas-townsend.com/ladies-wool-felt-bergre-2530-p-1463.html

>>8293756
Fuckin server was down for 40 minutes from right before the release went live, there was nothing left by the time it was up.

I'm tempted to hope by the sudden preorders that were posted for Cherry Marguerite and Melty Berry Princess - odds of Dolly Cat getting a preorder release?

>>8294055
>Fuckin server was down for 40 minutes from right before the release went live, there was nothing left by the time it was up.

I wonder if they're doing this on purpose, tbh.
Seems like this happens whenever there's a desirable release and friends want some favors...

>>8294057
I honestly doubt it. I've had a lot of issues ordering even during non-release times from the online site. Order submissions not going through, timing out, etc. AP USA's site is just crap.

>>8293795
Oh that's terrible
>it's ifwinterends
Meh who cares
She should at least release the name or photo of the guy

>>8294063
The owner runs her mouth all the time about how great the U.S. site is, yet it crashes all the time.
Now she's blocking people that refresh during releases, instead of making the site actually useable

i hate posting this again but i just bought IW's aileen op in sax. and i'm a noob so i'm not sure what petticoat shape to wear with it (i think a-line but it looks like it might be a bit more poofy)

>>8294080
Seriously? Haaaah. She doesn't even own that many dresses.

>>8294108
A-line will be best. It could hold a light cupcake, but it doesn't really lend itself to that.

>>8294055
>Fuckin server was down for 40 minutes
no it wasn't?? i got 2 kcs, 2 jsks, socks, and went back for an op (in a separate order but w/e it's cheap to combine them) in the first 5 minutes.

were you banned for refreshing? maybe that's why i had such good luck lol

>>8294004
Bergere hats are the flat ones, you can try gainsborough hats for the ones with wide brims.
>stupid captcha, bagel =/= hamburger

>>8294109
She might, she lives in Japan and goes to closet child where they have a lot of cheap shit.
Does anyone have the link to her blog?

>>8294150
Really? She lives in Japan! I did NOT know that! She never ever said!

>>8294150
It was on Ameblo, something to do with sugary or daydream carnival. She had posted that she was graduating lolita and going for a more "mature" Liz Lisa style though. Guess she way lying

Which issue of Otome No Sewing is the best gulls? (4-7)
I have some loyalty points to cash in so I thought I'd buy a copy of Otome no Sewing or GLB. Would appreciate some opinions so I make a smart choice.

Which would you buy?

>>8294080
mfw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMhRdJTiBnA
>Kawaii Leader

Discuss.
Girl in the video's makeup and wig are awful, wtf.

>>8294101
>>8294131
>people banned for refreshing

Are you guys FUCKING SERIOUS?
So, how long does this ban last then? What a stupid fucking twat this bitch is for doing that. Might explain why the server "crashed" on me a few releases ago.

>>8294230
Bruh....

Is it weird that she reminds me of can youdoitcosplay on yt?

>>8294131
>>8294234
I don't think so. I refreshed once right at 12:00PDT and the page would only half-load. Tried refreshing again every three minutes or so after that, and it still kept fucking up. If one refresh every 3 minutes is too much by their standards then fuck 'em.

I'm curious if anyone has bought from Anna House lately. I'm thinking about getting some filler blouses, but I don't know if their quality have fallen or improved since they've gotten a new factory.

>>8294234
I tried yesterday and it seemed to be about 10 refreshes a minute or more got a ban.
>>8294251
That's just the server crashing
>>8294156
kek
seriously though does anyone have the link to her blog or ameblo? Where was this said? Lack of sauce is making me suspicious

>>8294441
On her locked Twitter account (and Lor replied to her tweet)

>>8294490
And saw something about it on FB but neither the girl's or guy's name is mentioned

Trying to laser cut some melty moons but the gold plastic is maybe 1/8" thicker than the brown which makes weird levels.

Im looking for a pair of shoes in sax that'll go well with Dolly Cat. I've tried bodyline and clobba and the shades all seem too light. Any suggestions?

I'm not sure if this is worth its own thread, but does anyone else specifically only clean their dresses via dry cleaner or is it too much?

>>8294521
Those look pretty cool. Are you planning on selling them?

>>8294574
I handwash anything that seems delicate in cool water and a bathtub. The rest get machine washed. I have maybe one or two that I just got that I might dry clean but I've heard horror stories about print and lace problems and dry cleaning.

>overprotective burando mama

Who got what?

Also I forgot to use my points, does like, 310 points = 310 yen off?

>>8294581
I do I just need to get them perfect first. Though I'm wondering what "flavors" people would want. Chocolate and "strawberry" over the gold moon are all I have planned atm but I'm considering pastel combinations as well as whatever suggestions people might have.

>>8294588

Yeah it's only 1:1yen

>mfw 6000 points but "saving" what am I even saving for.

>>8294588
I was able to get a sax OP with a ss, and tried AP USA for the kc. I added to cart four times, each time it wouldn't be in my cart. The last time it sold out. orz

>>8294599
Oh I mean for Shadow Dream Carnival and points on the Japanese site lol

>>8294598
Oh oops just saw this, thanks! Wow, I spend so much money for like... $2.50 off

>>8294606

I know doesn't seem to add up quick that's for sure lol and no problem!

>>8294564
Same. I think I just have to go with white. AP doesn't have any shoes that'll ever match that sax. It's like saxlavender. But then I'm stuck on legwear cause there were no sax socks. Why.

>>8294595
maybe white over the gold or the traditional 'gothy' colours.

>>8294168

Look for reviews and check out the photos of the items available. Then choose the ones you would most like to sew.

Otome no sewing has a lot of resources, like where to buy the fabric, kits for making accessories, shopping maps, but if you're not located in Japan you're basically buying it for the patterns, so choose the book that has patterns of the things you want to make and wear.

>>8294588

I'm surprised I managed to check out with a dress. But everything in white was already gone by the time I went back. I got cart error twice and forgot to tick the points box.

>>8294521
I personally would have cut a crescent moon and layered the melty stuff behind and on top and used some thinner plastic. It looks a bit strange with the melty stuff cutting into the shape.

>>8294564
>>8294620

How about white tights and pink shoes?

>>8294588
got cart error once, made out with the low waist jsk & barrette in black

>>8294650
Cheers anon. I'm torn between picking up another GLB for the street snaps to get outfit inspo, but some patterns would be nice, I'm too busy to put much time into drafting my own.
I'll see if any patterns catch my eye that I REALLY need. Failing that, the latest GLB won't go amiss!

Wore my gold bodyline shoes literally once and the black part of the heel fell off one god knows where.
Anyone know of a good fix?

>>8294157
>she thinks Liz Lisa is mature
Lol that dumb bitch. Liz Lisa and lolita are the same age range, teens to twenties.

>>8294760
>>8294760
Shoe Goo

>>8294774
Thanks anon!

>>8294668
Sax anon here, I literally have no pink in my wardrobe, but I might give it a try. Thanks for the idea anon.

>>8294772
I think she meant it as in LL is more sexy. Since she is a perfect white gaijin goddess and all the lolita shop assistants were mad jelly of how beautiful she was

>>8294108
this is DEFINITELY bell, don't listen to that anon. you can tell by all the gathered fabric at the top. an A line would look like the fabric could stretch out from the bottom.

>>8294884

A lines can have gathers, anon.

>>8294884

This one doesn't have tiers, maybe it illustrates better.

>>8294276
it's not very, very recent, but I believe last year it was that I bought two longsleeve blouses from them. the sleeves were gigantically wide, but quality wise they are between Bodyline and brand blouses I would say.

>>8293109
definitely going to be a bloodbath, and I think every cut and colourway will sell out. sucks ass because I'm too poor to get it now and it's going to go up and probably not be MTO and even if it is it will probably cost a dick afterwards like Celestial.

>>8293293
I'll e-mail you one.

>>8293109

Everything sold out in a little over 10 minutes, but the site didn't crash or slow down too badly, not on my end at least. Checked out with the regular waist JSK in pink and two of those new blouses in pink and black.

Made to order started on the berry prints, only thing I got were the socks in every color for MBP. As much as love the print details, don't like the cuts, but the socks are cute as fuck.

>>8294236
Oh Shit, you're right. Ever since she visited our comm ages ago (and I was still too new and shy to say no to her YT bullshit), she and her selfie stick haunt my dreams...

>>8293974
I bought a £20 item on auctions once, paid £20 for SS fees and shipping on it, then got charged another £20 in customs and handling fees on it.

>tfw it cost me fucking £60 for a small item that will never resell above £15

>>8294012
Yup, it's from Magic Tea Party but I think that colour is sold out now.

>>8294080
That's fucking hilarious. What even happened to her? She seems to have finally disappeared off EGL.

>>8294907

Actually you can see a lot of fabric just resting together at the top of the skirt in this one because the petticoat doesn't have enough poof. The tiered skirt you posted is properly A-line, though.

>>8295048
Now she terrorizes the locals with it and her supa kawaii chipmunk voice

Baby/aatp just uploaded Rose Jail on their website. Did I miss a re-release or something? It's impossible that they held on to surplus fabric from 2008 until now, is it?

>>8295065
http://ameblo.jp/daydream-carnival/
Her blog, where she says she's leaving lolita

How does one order from btssb? I'm confused asf

>>8295096
wait nvm I got it, the talk about paypal and tenso got me confused

>>8295084

They've been releasing tote bags of various popular prints just recently. Not long ago, they released Vampire Requiem, Midsummer Night's Dream, and Beauty and the Rose Promise totes. The quality was lacking, and different fabric to those used for the dresses was used, at least iin the case of VR.

>>8294903
>>8294884
>>8294111
i appreciate all your advice but now i am just confused

>>8295138
Personally I think the way the gathers in that tiered style work means you can often get away with both A-line and bell-shaped petticoats, because the fact it's designed with folds in hides folds caused by excess fabric. Bodyline's l088 is another good example, if I was at home I'd post pics of it with both petticoat shapes to show you.

>>8295084

Nah, it's just totebags not an actual re-release (unfortunately).

Secrets are up.

>>8295107
>>8295165

Ah, that's really dissappointing. Especially the quality being lacking. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

>>8295042
doesn't sound too much like a bloodbath. Ah man, I hoped It would have been a super insane release to get another MTO. This dress really grown on me.
Any idea what the most popoular colorways are?

I just saw the new btssb swan lake OP and I need it. But shit, I'm lucky I'm a A-cup cause how the fuck are you supposed to fit your boobs into that? I don't want to turn out like that chick that was posted a week ago where everyone was confused with the position of her boobs.

>>8295246
I feel the same.. When I woke up this morning and saw the stock pictures bigger. I was like FUCKK! I like it now ;_;

The AP sales occur at 4am my timezone so I only stay up for dresses I want for sure. Damnit.

>>8295265
Oh lordie, that detail's more gorgeous than I thought..

>>8295265
If the design was more gothic (like replacing the horses with something else) I would definitely snap this up. It looks lovely but not for me.

>>8295246

Black and lav sold first
Lav restocked
Sold out again with white
Pink last

All in about five mins from each other

Nothing started selling for about 8 minutes though (I was watching jsk)

>>8295265

I'm no AP fan and don't like horse prints but even I like this. It's subtle and more mature, very pretty.

>>8295265
the fabric is nice but the cuts ruin it. why make a subtle print if you're going to put it on highwaisted sacks that make everyone look like a pregnant toddler

Where/what is this skirt?
I'm not sure if it was intended for lolita but I might like to wear it in a super casual way or other cute j-fash

>>8294595
silver melting over gold would be pretty cool, or vice versa

>>8293657
Nothing to begin with, it'll have a comment/follow system but maybe we can look into an additional forum later on.

>>8294521

Hey anon I have a question for you since I've been thinking of laser cut jewelry for awhile, how do you attach the different colored/cut pieces together? Do you just E6000 them together?

If you don't want to answer since you plan on selling them, I totally respect that.

>>8295138
The fact of the matter is you can use either an A-line or bell petticoat under a bell skirt and it will work, but an A-line skirt will only work with an A-line petticoat because it doesn't have the volume at the hip to fit a bell petticoat. That's how you know.

So technically, it's a bell shaped skirt, but you can use a poofy (not casual) A-line petti.

Does anybody know of any short sleeve boleros that would work in a Co-ord where the IW Millefeuille boleros would work?
It's getting hot here and I'd love to be able to have options with.
Any brand (Or offbrand) is fine, they just have to be the same color as Innocent World's boleros (Bordeaux, Brown and Navy)
Any help would be appreciated!

>>8292321

I want this so bad anon, thank you for doing this!!

>>8295380

IW has short sleeve versions of those boleros available.

>>8295384
Not in Bordeaux unfortunately, just Navy in the colors I want

>>8295376
When using acrylics you "glue" pieces together with acrylic cement which is basically just a blend of acetone. It's not like tradition glue, more like a chemical that melts the pieces together. You can use e6000 for adding nont-plastic bits like pin backs or glass cabochons but for getting the plastic pieces together acrylic cement is the only thing that will let the pieces be as tight and flat as possible.

>>8295107
Glad to see Rose Jail comes in black but I was really disappointed most of the totes seemed to be in only one colorway? Would have gladly bought black colorway tote of Rose Promise but no dice. I wonder why they did that.

>>8295273
Yeah. Same problem as Belle Epoque. Damn horses.

>>8295332

>this cut doesn't work for me I better speak for everyone!

>>8295388

You are awesome anon, thank you so much for the info!

god fucking dammit seagulls

the other night, I saw a CDC premium jsk set on mbok for 18000 yen. it was almost ending, and I wanted to get it, but wasn't sure about my monetary bizness. the auction ended with no bids and ended up being relisted. I thought maybe it was a second chance, but fuck, it doesn't end for another 2 days and it's been bidded on 6 times already. price might continue to grow too.

grrr, I thought I might have a chance of getting a CDC jsk for less than 200 bucks (though I absolutely understand there was a chance of the seller relisting bc they wanted more than 18k yen, or they didn't want to sell to a SS) but I guess it wasn't meant to be this time around. sigh. guess I'll keep hunting.

I was so happy too because someone was selling the premium jsk set on LSE for like $400...

>>8294574
I dry-clean the stuff that says it's dry-clean only, but a few of my dresses shouldn't be dry-cleaned so those I hand wash, cold water. I have some dresses that are fine for machine washing so those I do on gentle with cold water. I air dry.

>>8295256
It's like they WANT girls to look bad in their dresses lately. That is pretty much unwearable. I hope you manage to make it work because I think the print is pretty cute. Good luck, anon!

>>8295332
Yeah I'm getting a little tired of this cut of dress. I've really been really hoping they'd release a low or just waist cut jsk for this kind of flowy chiffon dress soon. Especially if they coupled the pentagram back-lacing from Milky Cross with a subtle, all-one-color print like Shadow Dream Carnival. It'd be so good.

>>8295265

That is a lot nicer than I thought.

>get excited because Ciciwork are releasing another witch hat
>it has fucking corset lacing going up the hat

Functional corset lacing I'm okay with, but pointless corset lacing as decoration is tacky as fuck. Even if I removed the ribbon it'd still have two random strips of lace running up the hat.

I just want another simple velvet witch hat design, damnit.

>>8295658
I saw this too, been wondering whether to get it anyway because my comm has a meet coming up that a witch hat would be useful for. I don't think I can justify it, but I don't think I can justify my current cheap Halloween witch hat either...

What are the next AP releases after the cat dress and shadow carnival?

>>8295658
The lace around the edge also isn't as good as the original, but I really want it.

Anyone know when Dear Celine are opening reservations for that new OP?
Or anymore pictures? I'm wondering what shape it is....

People are trying to teach Haenuli how she whitewashed a native character by using their doll as a base for a completely unrelated brown doll. I'm so embarrassed.

I bought a skirt recently that needs a bell petti..because I just couldn't resist. However, I only own A lines. I have 2 though, is there any way I can re purpose one into a bell? Or am I better off just buying a petticoat? I feel a bit silly having to buy a petticoat for only one item.

>>8295768
You can wear them both and roll up one of them.

>>8295729
What OP, pics?

>>8295752
uhhh what

>>8295752
you're talking about the pocahontas(/cinderella) into a custom doll, right?

Caps?

>>8295822

>>8295834

Doll in question. There are some good civil responses as well, but damn I'm so sick of this stupid shit.

>>8295834
Wow, I looked up her tumblr and that is completely retarded, it's a goddamn toy for heaven's sake.
I guess we shouldn't dress Asian looking BJDs in anything except kimono too then since putting them in lolita or whatever is stripping them of their sacred cultural heritage.

>>8295834
thanks, anon!

Some people are just stupid beyond saving.

>>8295849
Isn't it kind of racist in it's own way to get so mad because it's a Pocahontas doll? She wouldn't be getting shit if was a Cinderella or Snow White doll originally. Also what if you said the same thing to a girl with dark features using circles lenses for a coord?

>>8295923
Sounds like you're just finding out about SJWs and how they work.

>they are just as racist as /pol/
>they constantly spew racism while crying racism at others
>they are more annoying and anti-fem than anti-fem MRA shits

>>8295843
That loli doll looks really good. IMO she did the doll a favor, poor Pocahontas looks so sad in the original one. Which I guess is more historically accurate since she was a prisoner of war and all.

How long does it usually take Lockshop to ship an order? I've heard some bad things about their customer service, and now I'm finding them to be pretty true for me as well. They won't answer my emails, I ordered almost three weeks ago (for pre-order wigs that are now instock and off of pre-order) and there's no sign of my order shipping at all. Two of the wigs I ordered now say sold out, so I'm hoping that my spot is still reserved for them and they'll ship soon.

Where do people usually sell stuff? I know of lacemarket and lolita sales facebook group, is that all? Is egl sales still popular? I can see they're all active, but there must be less popular/more popular places.

>>8295994
sometimes people sell stuff on ebay but I don't think it's *that* popular, really. there's also poshmark but that's even less popular and i think the only lolita stuff i've seen on there is some people selling AP socks.

>girl posts general WTB for pieces
>I'm selling a piece she seems like she'd be interested in, a simple brand JSK
>send a message with info
>her reply reads like a holier-than-thou monologue implying that the only reason brand costs more than Bodyline/TaoBao is because we "idolize" burando

Good god, a simple "no" would have been fine, I didn't need a damned paragraph implying I'm stupid for spending money on brand.

>>8296023
caps, sounds like a lolcow

>>8295964
Is it preparation in progress? They seem to ship out the same day it has been updated to that status.

>>8296023
seconding appropriately censored caps or the text of the post, it sounds funny.

>>8296023
please caps, I don't even care if it's censored or not, wouldn't mind knowing who not to deal with

>>8295928
This.
>>8295923
They don't really care about anything unless a white person says it, which is incredibly contradictory of their beliefs. Most sjws are white (some pretend they are not by stealing pictures from other peoples instagrams, Jun of euthaniseallwhitepeople comes to mind). Any time any minority tries to speak up against them, the sjws tell them that they have just been "whitewashed".
The sjws support violence, and "social justice" which is infinitely problematic in its own rights. It does not take into account individual actions (unless you do something drastic) or experiences. Its all about comparing what you have to what you think someone else has - which is the exact behavioral trait we stomp out of little kids because it makes them angry and jealous. Which is exactly what sjws are - jealous little children and those who are enabled by them to push hateful agendas.

>>8296087
What the fuck ever, it's irrelevant to the thread so shut up.

>>8296064
Nah, I placed my order and paid on the 12th and it's been in pre-order status ever since. I emailed them last on the 28th and haven't got anything back. The one pre-order wig that I purchased is no longer in pre-order, so I feel like they should have at least updated me on that but didn't.

I'm okay with being patient, though; I just hope I don't miss out on any of the things I ordered due to a potential error on their end.

>>8296097
I'm sure they're just backed up then! I'd give them a few more days and then maybe contact Choke personally?

>>8295791
Thanks, I'll try that! I read online somewhere you could sort of put the sides up on one a line to do that..but it didn't really work.

>>8296102
That could be it as well, they've been really active on their FB updating with new products and such, but it's frustrating to be put on the back burner for a big order and not be responded to. I'll give them some more time, because honestly I'm really excited to get my first LS wigs and don't wanna get sour on them.

>>8296109
From what I know is that they've got different teams, so the ones posting online are different from doing the shipping or the ones doing the customer service. I could be wrong though! Choke seems to know the most of everyone though, when I message her with a question she always anwers me within a day!

>>8296109
>>8296121
Correction: Do message her now if you're worried, instead of waiting. Her team probably doesn't work in the weekends and from what I know she starts shipping out on Monday. Do you have her Facebook?

>>8296095
>people discussing things that have been posted in the thread
>irrelevant to thread
ooookay then, anon.

>>8294903
it has all those gathers and is still an A line because all of the tiers. the other dress was undeniably a bell shape. >>8294907 this still has a tier.

>>8295843
how is that doll white washed at all

>>8296229
She gave it blue eyes and highlights on its cheeks.
It is beautiful, but that is tumblr for you.

>>8296229
the thing is that the doll's skin was kind of white washed to begin with...(i know it's tan, but it's def a few tones lighter than her skin in stills from the movie/official art but i'm not trying to debate that right now either)

>>8295843
this has kind of inspired me to make my own doll tbh. did she sew the clothes herself or use stuff made for another one?

Did Marionette in my Closet seriously just sell for $200?

>>8296241
LINK, PLEASE!

>>8292421
Sounds like you have maladaptive daydreaming, anon. I struggle with it too. It generally develops as a coping method, usually in childhood, to deal with abusive or bullying situations where you might feel powerless or worthless. It's not unlike disassociation.
It might help you to look it up and see some other people's methods when dealing with it. It's hard to snap out of it, but possible so long as you're aware of it happening.

>>8296241
I think they took all the shirring out of it though, so it's damaged

>>8296248
LSE, posted about 2 hours ago. It sold lightning fast, and I just had a better look and realised it was altered.
>But still
>$200

>>8296254
That's completely and easily reversible, though, so while it would keep it from selling for the full market value it shouldn't have *that* much effect on the price.

>>8295608
Thanks anon! I really want the OP cause the JSK is a little bit too much for me (detail wise) but shit! What the fuck is going on btssb?

>>8296255
One seriously sold for $400 a couple months ago on LSE. It sold INSTANTLY and the seller clearly had no idea what they had. The person who got it is a total dipshit, too, not that that really matters, but she's one of the very few lolitas who just straight grind my gears and it has nothing to do with their clothes.

>>8296277
It seems kinda the same way with this seller just not knowing. After looking at her fb she looks gross and ita as fuck

>>8296305
which seller had it?

>>8296308
Katharine Cogger

>>8296255
looked but could not find, if you happen to have a link i would like to see! will continue searching but mobile is being potato

>>8296391
uh nvm found it lol, right near the top

How long does it take for Tenshi Shop to ship items. It's been like a week. Also does she always invoice in USD? Thanks!

>>8296419
She told me it usually takes her a week or so to ship.

>>8296249

oh my god. Thanks.

Had no idea there was a name for it. This is very informative.

>>8296419
She's been insanely backed up due to all of the AP releases lately as well, so that could definitely cause a delay.

Don't worry, though; she's a Godsend and always follows through with everything.

>heard bad things about dc area comm (itas, weeaboos, etc.)
>too scared to join my local comm
>feel like an ita for not being involved in a comm

>>8296450
i should state that my local comm is the dc area comm if that wasn't clear by my post

/cgl/ is the only comm I need.

I find local comms unnecessary if you're a socially inept and have no friends in the first place.

How far does the shirring on most VM dresses go? Like if it's listed at 88cm bust would it go to 90 or 92?

>>8296450
why would that make you an ita? cgl is filled with lone lolitas.

anyways, it's worth it to try and go to 1 or 2 meets and then see. certain meets will attract more or less good lolitas or itas and badly dressed BL chans, I can't say exactly what since you'll get people from all over who have had different experiences. I would say more expensive meets have less itas, but someone else will say they went to a big-ticket event and there were plenty of socially awkward and badly dressed girls there. if you go to a couple meets and don't like the people there, you're not obligated to go to any future meets, and if anyone asks you can just say you're busy. I don't know anything about the DC comm but I would say give it at least 2 meets to get to know what kind of people are in the comm.

I was scared to join my comm too anon but the first meet I went to people were really nice, and I immediately made friends with a lot of the well-dressed girls.

>>8296473
That last line sounds really shallow. I should also mentioned that the well-dressed girls in my comm are also good, nice people and not socially inept. I'm just saying, if you're worried about being surrounded by weaboo BL chans, just give it a try. My first meet was even at an anime convention and all the normal girls seemed to be there save for 1 super awkward bl chan.

>lolita comm wants to do karaoke
>can't sing well

>>8293880
Are you saying it's a bad joke, or did it go over your head? I thought it was cute.
>>8296240
Adding to this, did she change the shape of the doll's face? It's chin looks fuller in the second picture. Either way, it's very cute.

i gave making a cascading ribbon a go using purely wired ribbon but it doesn't hold well at all, and totally needs glue or stitches but I thought some people might want to see what they can do to make their own

>>8296489
sing louder to compensate

>>8296538
I don't think she changed the shape, she lightened up the skin tone a bit? it stands out from the shadow more than in the other pic, where it kind of blends in/gets lost and also added extra makeup onto the face (like blush) so that might've changed it a bit as well?

where can I get some nice pearl headpieces from?

>>8296467
Are you me anon, this is exactly how I feel. I love you salty bitches! <3

>>8296573
what do you mean? lariats like the ones BTSSB sells?

>>8292343
I like the reddish brown colorway but it's really hard to coord. (I bought it then resold it) Like you will never find shoes or anything else in that color. Although the berries and stuff are a softer red, I think true red accessories could work for the blue colorway. I think it would look really cute with a white blouse, white polka dot sheer tights, and red shoes and bag. Etsy has tons of cute pie/food accesories to go with it too.

>>8296419
yeah she always invoices in usd, which sucks because with the conversion rates it always ends up about $80 aud more expensive for me than if she invoiced in jpy

>>8295843
this is fucking cute, I actually really like both dolls, as in I'd buy two and adapt only one, maybe they could hang out together.

so, I was updating my wishlist and afterwards while scrolling through FB I just happened to see someone's sale post about a dress I put on there - melty ribbon chocolate size L in bitter + the bow barette, but, it's $600. does mrc really go for that much on the secondhand market???

>>8296621
Yeah, but maybe not too OTT?

>>8296573
Lily of the Valley on etsy makes some, I think

>>8295265
It's so goddamn beautiful, the soot-like black tones and subtle detail of the print just make me drool. I'll never own it but at least I can look at the pretty pics eh?

>>8296681
I don't know of any specific places, but just search "lariat" and "headchain". like other anon said, Lily of the Valley on etsy sells some and this person on storenvy also makes some pretty swanky, expensive headchains (and other jewelry/accessories, more on the gothic side for sure):
http://www.storenvy.com/stores/68727-raven-eve-jewelry
i've meaning to buy something from her store but other purchases keep getting in the way.

the baby ones are the only ones i've seen with lots of pearls like that though

>>8296693
Hmm thanks anons! I might have to save up for btssb's siren one on reserve atm.

Any ideas on how to get creases out of pleather shoes?

>>8295332
This, thank you. These sack dresses don't suit anyone, I don't know what AP is trying to pull. Skinny and fat girls all look like chubby baby dolls in high waist cuts.

Anyone have this JSK or experience with Citanul products? I love this print I'm curious about the quality though

>>8296552
It's just the auto lighting on the camera being different because there's different colors from the clothing in the picture now.

>>8295380
Try something like Bunny House or Glittertale, they should be able to custom make for you.

>>8296798

I would rather look like a chubby baby doll than a fat girl stuffed in a low waist dress. I love those cuts.

Has anyone purchased from here? http://www.lolitadressesshop.com/

>>8296821
It's just Krad Lanrete under a different name. I imagine the quality would be the same.

>>8296915
>http://www.lolitadressesshop.com/
I you retarded? This is milanoo.

>>8296925
*are

>>8296927
>>8296925

>>8296683

Thanks for this! I've been scouring etsy for days looking for rosary chain charm necklaces and this person has some. Finally.

>>8296241
Is it really that sought after? I just purchased the skirt for $120 a few weeks ago and thought it was an unpopular print,honestly

Hey gulls, what stores do you recommend for high collar (?) blouses?

>>8296241
They took out the shirring and made a really shit looking headbow out of the waist ties. I wouldn't want a dream dress that was that hacked up even for the cheap price.

>>8296921
>Krad Lanrete
Eternal Darkness
>Citanul
Lunatic

So edgy.

>>8297067
the jsk goes really high, but no one really cares about the skirt tbh

>>8297117

Eternal Dark, actually.

I'm e-fame hungry, anons. I know it's pathetic, but I want a taste of being loved by the community.
How do people even get e-fame? Clear coord posts? Knowing other famous Lolitas?

>>8297296
I feel the same way,anon.
I was told that keeping active and posting a lot of clear coord photos/original content works, but it can be different for everyone.

>>8297324
I miss when D_L was active. A solid monthly post with a couple of good coords was enough to get someone fame. Now I feel like nobody bats an eyelid if you don't churn out outfits every two days.

>>8297339
I've noticed this as well. The daily_lolita type tumblr blogs have become irrelevant as well it seems

>>8296446
I trust she will follow through. I was just hoping it would ship faster because I 'needed' it for something next weekend. Oh well I have back ups!

>>8296665
I know!!! As a Canadian I too lost about that much but it was still cheaper than going through the AP ISA so I can't fuss too much!

>>8296821
My friend has this and lurks /cgl/ I'm sure she'll pop up to tell you what it's like

Was IW Crown Jewel Series that unpopular? CC has almost every cut/colorway up right now... I thought it was pretty popular on release because it was like a Grazia that appealed to otome aesthetics/colorpallet. Is it just seasonal cleaning?

I just saw this on weibo.
Basically, this girl wore lolita to her senior's funeral (dress is pict related). She didn't wear wig or did makeup but she did show up in a complete cord with hairclips, petticoat and everything.
The deceased's family slapped her and tore her hairclip. Now this girl is still crying thinking the world is against her while her friends tried to comfort her.

What do you think, /cgl/?

>>8297622
It's a shitty thing to wear to a funeral, I don't think wearing lolita itself is bad, but didn't she have anything black? The dress is dark but the print is pretty colorful and I assume the frills on the bottom are part of the dress and not an underskirt.

It was still pretty fucking mean from the family to basically assault her like that, like, can't you just tell her they don't want to see her dressed like that.

>>8297638
Would you wear Lolita to your own family's funeral? I think it's in appropriate for them to slap her but she pretty much used this occasion to show off.

>>8297622
Extremely inappropriate, self unaware and selfish. Not to condone the violent reaction but I can't blame the family's feelings either.

>>8297642
I said the dress was inappropriate myself though.

>>8297646
>wearing Lolita to a funeral is not bad
I don't know how to think about that in general, what's cgls stand on it?

>>8297647
>>8297638
Honestly, I wouldn't. I've worn it to weddings which I know cgl tends to be split on, but that's a joyous occasion, not one of mourning- I definitely don't think it's appropriate, unless it's an extremely toned down solid piece that could pass for just a formal dress, like a plain solid classic JSK, and not styled in a very lolita way.

>>8297541
Where do you see all of them up?

this is a weird question but how long are my bloomers supposed to be?

>>8297541
Oh crap I didn't read. It just wasn't that popular besides the green color. What did it for a lot of people was the Innocent World placement on the dress with the white bubble cloud.

>>8297706
Depends on your height, whether you want the oldschool peeking bloomers or to not show, etc...?

>>8297622
Not cool to wear it to a funeral, but completely inappropriate to fight at one. The family is in the wrong, I don't give a crap how someone is dressed. You tell them politely that it isn't cool, or you shut up and leave it. It is disrespectful to the dead.

>>8297622
if i was her i'd never interact with that family again. the family's in the wrong here, even if what she did wasn't cool. nothing justifies slapping someone and tearing their clothes at a fucking funeral or anywhere.

>>8297706
if you are under 160cm tall, I would say bloomers with a lenght between 40-50cm. above 160cm, bloomers longer than 50cm. modern styles have bloomers that won't peek from under your skirt, for an oldschool style it's acceptable if the bottom ruffle of the bloomers peek out.

>>8296677
Yes

>>8297831
>>8297811
Just wondering, why do you guys think her getting slapped is the worst thing happening to the world? She's literally pissing on their graves by doing this.

new general >>8297890

>>8297642
Yes, I have. A full kuro outfit to my grandfather's. My father and aunt didn't mind nor did anyone else in my family as I was put together and it is how I dress.
I know every family is different and it is dependant on weather or not if it is suitable in the first place.

>>8297622
B-but lolita is sooo modest!
Completely inappropriate and I wouldn't be so fast to judge the family for alleged attacks when we don't know what happened aside from her being dressed like a tit. And with a slap is more the thought that counts, it's not like a fist to the face and not violent assault.

>>8297933
Same here. Also completely black and to my grandfather's. Nobody cared, probably because quite a few of the attendees wore colourful normalfag clothing themselves.

I feel like you want to look as polished as possible at somebody's funeral. As some sort of tribute that you care. But that's probably just me

>>8298025
I read their replies and apparently in China its bad taste to even wear skirts in funeral, never mind Lolita. Especially since China is nowhere as individuality embracing as here, its even more of an embarrassment.

>>8297933
I definitely think your relation to the dead is also a big factor, for example you guys were wearing it to your own grandparent's funeral but it sounds like this girl wasn't related to the deceased? I don't know what's meant by 'senior', like a work associate or something? I don't think an acquaintance is close enough imo for it to be appropriate. And like >>8298214 said, depends on how conservative the deceased's close ones are and what's appropriate for the culture of where you are.

>>8297889
assault is assault. it may not have been right to wear the clothes because they are a bit more flashy, but that doesn't mean that the girl was trying to piss on anyone's grave, and i don't know who that was but if its her main way of dressing than to her it may have been perceived as normal, especially with no wig and lack of makeup.

>>8297659
Only thing I can up with off the top of my head that I would consider appropriate. I'm sure there's more