/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8285005
screenies pls it sounds hilarious

>>8285029
>screenies
I haven't heard that word since my Neopets days.

>>8285035
dont even remind me anon, my pets are probably dead

>>8285065
i'm playing right now, and pets don't die
your account may have gotten purged though

>sage for OT

>>8285005
Is that with the white bodyline dress? It's not exactly new, I think she did it in 2013 sometime.

what's up with people clicking the buy it now option on lacemarket and then not sticking around to pay their invoice?

i literally mailed the buyer maybe 15 mins after they put the bid in and invoiced their listed paypal, but 3 hours later there's still no response

do people just bid and then go to sleep or what?


i also hate when you've completed a sale, and let the other person know that you've left them feedback but they never reply. OR they say they'll leave you feedback too and never do. what's with that ugh

>>8285109
Really? I just saw it on my dash, idk how long it's been.

It's sooooo tacky and cheap omg like why would you do that.

This is sold out in black in L now, getting nervous about whether I got it or not since I only reserved it the other day (no idea when it went up).

>>8285189
>>8285190
Eh, it could look worse. At least she's not trying to mass produce and sell it

>>8285189
>>8285190
It's a pretty crude thing to do, just tacking on the AP logo like that, but the final result doesn't look bad.

>>8285195
>>8285200
What really confused me is why keep the AP logo and replicate a print? Why not just do an original design? She's pretty good at DIY and screenprinting, so why couldn't she just make an original pony or carousel print? Or even leave out the AP logo?

>>8285189
>>8285190

It could look a lot worse I guess. I wouldn't mind THAT much if she hadn't put the AP logo on it, either. But why go through all that effort? I've seen Twinkle Carnival go for like $150-$200. She could have just bought the real one.

>>8285214
>Twinkle Carnival Switching JSK in Ivory
try $550 min.

>>8285214
Yeah, no. The cheapest I've ever seen it go for was about $350, which is ridiculously cheap tbh. But she still should have just saved up for it instead of screen printing a god damn bodyline dress.

>>8285233
If you're not fussy about the cut or colorway then you can score it for cheap.
I got the pink halter JSK for $120, and I've seen the skirt sell for around $100 numerous times.

>>8285165

They had no way of knowing you were online when they offered to buy it now, did they? That's exactly what they may have done.

>>8285165
TBH I have a habit of thinking about things all night, sleeping on it, committing to buy in the morning and then going to work.
I usually warn the person that it will be a few hours though, if they don't invoice me before I leave.

>>8285189
Wow she made bodyline look cheaper than usual, only a true ita can achieve that. Plus she asked for the jsk for christmas...like she couldn't even fork over $50 or whatever for a dress in the first place, she shouldn't be in this fashion at all.

>>8285165
I get that one should pay the day they won an auction, but you sound really bitchy. The buyer can't know you're online and maybe, just maybe, they just bought your item quickly during a lunch break or somethig? I know I do that. Of course I check my mails as soon as I can, but sometimes I just impulse buy things while on the train or during a break or whatever.

In return, I had sellers not messaging me for a week. That's rude, not not paying within 15 minutes. You really need to chill, anon.

>>8285265
>>8285274
>>8285280

that's true, but they bought the listing within 10 minutes of me listing it and it was still on the front page. i usually stick around for a while if i buy something off of the front page

of course i'll give them a few days to pay or answer their message, i was just annoyed because i was going to the post office today and wanted to get everything done

>>8285029
>>8285035
>>8285065
>>8285081
Didn't we talk about making a /cgl/ guild or something? I'd totally be down for that!

>>8285385
It's already made and it was a shitfest for weeks.

>>8285390
What

How did I miss this??? Is it still going???

Did anyone else order Celestial from AP San Fran? Did you get a tracking number?

My bf ordered it for me and I want to know if it's coming, I feel like he'll forget to tell me if he gets tracking.

>>8285639
All packages get tracking

>>8285655
Yes, I realize that, I'm asking if anyone who ordered from AP SF that got Celestial has gotten theirs. I missed some vital words apparently.

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k190255329

Can someone who owns this Jacket confirm if this is really the brown colorway? In the description it says it is brown but it looks more like black on the proof pictures. Someone help pls, I need to know this before placing a bid.

>>8285687
It looks pretty bitter-chocolate brown to me. Quite dark but definitely brown.

>>8285279
Don't try so hard. Yeah, it's a tacky thing to do. No, it doesn't look cheaper than before.

>>8285190
I thought this was creative and she did a great job. Making it an AP replica to the point of adding the logo struck me as odd though. With skills like that, to me at least, it would have made more sense to make an 'inspired by' piece perhaps even using similar royalty free artwork etc - some vintage artwork is stunning and intricate, dare I say even more beautiful too.

She seems happy though, it's not she's trying to profit from it.

>>8285972
Er, ok, I just noticed the teeth on that. Maybe not the teeth.

>>8285189
>>8285190
I think it's pretty nicely done.
She could have just screenprinted a carousel without the AP logo, but since she's not selling it, so who cares?

>>8285972
>>8285983

I didnt notice the teeth until you pointed it out.
Now I cant stop laughing at how ridiculous that horses face is

>>8285189
>>8285190
That looks a heck of a lot better than I expected. Like, the fact it's a replica rather than an original design is bad, but I actually prefer the look/shape of hers to the original stock photo.

>>8285983
>>8286042
What are you talking about? The horse is wearing a helmet (face guard, whatever).

Does anyone know what this neckline is called? I like the style but I don't nessecarily like bodylines blouse
Pic related

>>8286177
square neckline?

>>8286177
Square neckline with cross ties? They're easy to find, and any shop that does custom blouses (like Bunny House, Glitter Tale or The Floral Notebook) will add them on to other collarless blouse designs either for free or for like $5.

Posting here because there's no oldschool thread, someone in the oldschool thread mentioned really liking this dress and it's on Tokyo Alice now:

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/tokyoalice/a39498/

Not really sure where to post this, so I suppose here is a good place.

I recently bought a dress that I intended for normal wear, but as a joke I put an old petti that I had lying around and it actually looked pretty alright.

I looks like it's homemade as there are no tags, but the stitching looks pretty sound.

Question is, is it an acceptable dress for lolita? I've attached a pic with the dress and the direction of the coord that I think would be alright.

All criticism and advice is welcomed warmly.

>>8286352
the shape does not look right to me - combination of length and lack of poof. this might be an aesthetic issue rather than a hard and fast rule, but to me it looks more vintage/retro than lolita because of it.

>>8286352
To be honest I'm not sure I like the dress. The neckline looks a bit weird, and the straps aren't very good. The shape of the skirt also strikes me as a bit square-dancy. Maybe if you altered it, it'd be nice. Like, adding new straps would make it better. Also, your planned coord is lovely, but I don't like the bag (lace looks like it might be a bit cheap?) or the apron.

>>8286352
Hmm. That's rather debatable anon. Definitely not in it's current state, you need to ditch those sad strips of ribbon and wear it as a sleeveless or make some more suitable straps. Or, I just had a thought, add some lace on the bottom, chop off the top (maybe even use the fabric for a bow) and make it into a skirt? That could be really cute. That petticoat is not the right shape though, I think it would look very flattering with a bell-shape. You're going in the right direction with your accessories though, this has a lot of potential!

>>8286352
I think it could work but I'd recommend a large bow or jabot, else the upper torso might look a bit empty. The bag is pretty ugly - mostly due to the lace. I'd also recommend getting a bag and hat that match in shade. The ribbon you have shown will also probably look too shiny - look for something more matte.

The daisies are cute but I wouldn't omit adding more cherry notes. You could easily skip the necklace and maybe find some hair clips that are cherry themed.

The petticoat does look a bit odd, you might want something more bell-shaped. You could try wearing it inside-out or wear it lower so it would at least reach closer to the bottom of your skirt. An underskirt might also help.

>>8286352
>>8286363
Okay, this is what I had in mind, if you're willing to alter the dress.

>>8286352
Saw this in the eBay thread if you're interested.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Popular-Cute-Women-Girl-Lady-Retro-Vintage-Pink-Bow-Cherry-Hair-Clip-Hairpin/271413592743?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D30542%26meid%3D37a49468302441eba95ec5d13ca19e77%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D271809876487&rt=nc

>>8286352
Do you sew? I think if you shortened the dress by a few inches it would look more lolita-y. Daisy/cherry should be fine for a theme.

>>8286380
I like your idea, anon, but I don't think the skirt has enough fabric/volume to do two tiers. Probably better to take the fabric off the bottom for the straps instead.

>>8286439
Hmm, I dunno if tiers is the right word, but I meant sort of like pic related? There still may not be enough fabric, but I think it might be doable, since the skirt is flared so there'd be a little extra fabric to ruffle it a tiny bit.

Lolis of cgl, which kinds of accessories would you like to see more? I'm looking at things being sold on Etsy and almost everything is either not lolita or is ita/cringey as fuck, pic related. What kinds of headpieces and necklaces and stuff do you guys want to see more of? Personally, I think half-bonnets are cute af and wish brands made more that matched their dresses.
And yes, I posted this in the wrong thread the first time.

>>8286616
I personally like hair clips with draping beads and pearls.

>>8286616
We all know you're fishing for your Etsy shop. Pic related.

>>8286616

Definitely more half bonnets, especially Triple Fortune styled ones. More ribbon clips like these ones (Anybody know where I could buy this one?) and rose clips would be nice too, nice rose clips are weirdly hard to come by.

>>8286650
I don't have an Etsy shop. I don't know where you got that picture but I'd never sell that shit, looks cheap af.

>>8286380
Thank you! I sew a small amount, and this may be doable for my level of knowledge.
I'm having a hard time figuring out what to do with the torso though, as the top area is 4 different pieces of fabric. The back has a zipper that goes down to the tailbone, and the skirt portion is also 4 panels of fabric. I've outlined the seams of the front portion at the breasts. If I take out the elastic I'm not really sure how to get it looking nice rather than a baggy mess.

>>8286662
Damn, that does look tricky to work with. Maybe it would just be easier to make it into a skirt? More fabric to work with as well. I guess you'll be losing a normalfag dress but you'll be gaining a one of a kind lolita skirt!

>>8286654
I believe those are from CiciWork/SweetDreamer on TaoBao. I own a few and they're really nice, though the velveteen texture picks up lint like crazy.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-104480177.59.xzd0OR&id=40992191259

My boyfriend who sent me a link to this thread/site because he wants me to look through it to help me better understand Lolita culture and why he likes dressing up as Lolita. I recently found out that he is into dressing up in Lolita. He says he doesn't necessarily want to be a girl and he says that he is straight. He just likes having a chance to be cute.

Question:

-do you guys roleplay when you dress up?

>>8286679
0/10 make it less obvious next time

>>8286679
I think I remember him asking a question about this a few threads back.

Anyways, no. People don't put on a new persona or anything like that, or roleplay an OC or whatever, though some people might try to act more dainty and princess-y. For the most part everyone just acts like their normal selves but maybe a bit more better mannered?

Oh and if you meant to say "roleplay" like pretend we're little girls, no. (I assume he already have you the speech about the fashion not having any sort of association with the book)

>>8286679
Kek, last week or so there was a dude who confessed to having more burando than his gf after she got him into the hobby.

Seriously though, what you wear =/= your gender. I could like dressing up as a dinosaur, but that doesn't mean I'm a dinosaur or that I want to be (of course, they are people who do identify as dinosaurs, but they're just a vocal minority imo...) It's not roleplaying or anything, I just like the aesthetic of what I'm wearing.

>>8285005
WHERE DO I GET THAT FUCKING DRESS?

>>8286702
I think it's AP's most recent release but I thought I heard it sold out pretty fast

>>8286644
I would definitely love to see more hair pieces like these on the market. I've considered making my own a few times but god, I'm so lazy.

>>8286654
what's the term for this sort of hair bow? a cascade ribbon?

>>8286654
Those sorts of hairbows would be great, it's a pain only being able to get them from brands and Taobao (I actually need something like that for a coordinate I'm planning and stressed because it won't arrive from Taobao in time but I don't know where else to get a cheap one).

>>8286702
Anon, it says Angelic Pretty on the picture. You're a few days late for AP JP release unless you want to try the blood bath part two with SF.

i'm turning one of my rooms into a walk-in closet and want to somehow store my headbows on the wall. i have a ton of space to work with, so it isn't an issue. problem is i have like 30+ headbows and i want it to be somewhat organized. preferably something i can somehow mount on the wall.


pic related... something like this but i can't even tell what this is

>>8286962
If they're the headband style. Maybe get something like a wall mounted ribbon organizer.

Clip style you could mount a framed cork board and hang a few ribbons to clip your bows on.

>>8286962
Maybe something like this? I had planned to make one, myself. Just need to get around to it.
https://baublesnbabbles.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/diy-headband-holder/

>>8286962
You could buy or make a ribbon board like pic related.
Or you could make something like this:
https://baublesnbabbles.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/diy-headband-holder/

Could anyone offer some tips for how best to wear/coord babydoll style lolita dresses such as pic related? Oldschool style welcome. Also what do anons prefer to pair with velveteen?

I love the neckline and don't want to 'spoil' it yet sleeveless seems to be a no-no..what do?

>>8287285
Get a nice open scoop necked bolero. Make sure it's a bolero, not a cardigan - those are too long. Consider the material and casualness when you coord your bolero - cotton and velvet won't look right together.

Could someone please explain the difference between boobloaf and a snugly fitted/back-shirred bodice on someone not plus-sized (so it isn't just the "tits on the dress waistline" look)?

>>8287285
>>8287293

Oh shit i was just about to ask for help about this, I am so confused with what to do with that neckline. Thanks for the mind read and help anons

>>8287293
So a velvet or chiffon bolero to pair with velvet/velveteen?

Thanks anon.

>>8287285
something like this
I think either scoop neck or high neck for it

>>8286962
At my old house i put thumb tacks into the walls and hung my brand Headbows off of them. It looked nice and was easy to take them off of display to wear. I just move and I've been thinking of doing that again in my new walk in closet

Well LOOKIE WHO I JUST FOUND!

Our favorite scammer, Mikarinlee/Yuuni/Sweet Like Candy/Wtf is even her real name??

Yet another new username:

https://instagram.com/leebibunny/

Is it acceptable to wear a jsk with a collar without a blouse?

>>8287403
wear it with a bolero or a collarless blouse

Does anyone know if Angelic Pretty Halter JSKs (like Wonder Cookie, Milky Planet, Wonder Party, etc.) can fit a ~43-44in bust and 34-35in waist?

>>8287483
Not comfortably (if at all) and certainly not without the bodice warping.

>>8286923
When is the us release? I've been checking the blog daily, will there be any news posted anywhere else?

>>8287388
good lord, is she really a model? no wonder she has a sticker over her face in her icon...her nose is so bulbous...

I have a question:

When shipping out a dress, do you usually declare it as a gift even if the buyer doesn't request it? I just received a package and was hit with a 50 dollar customs fee because the seller declared it as a gift valuing at 250. If she was going to do this, shouldn't she have wrote a value under 50 dollars? Just seems like a stupid mistake that I have to pay for. Also, what is the likelihood of being reimbursed? I filled out the forms saying customs made a mistake, I'm about to mail it out, but I highly doubt I'm going to see my money again.

>>8286662

You can shape it by making about a million darts across the top, each one about 1 inch wide.

Alternatively, you could try sewing a few rows of lace across it, hopefully you end up with an effect similar to this jsk. I'd tack the lace down to try and see if it works before sewing it down.

You can sew little ribbon loops on the inside of the dress and replace the shoulder strap with clear bra straps, the current one isn't really working out.

>>8287512

I second this question, and want to add: what are the implications of listing as a gift as far as package insurance goes? Are you just SOL if your "gift" Moitie gate print or whatever gets lost over the Atlantic?

>>8287388
that google translate Korean in the description though

>>8287512

I can sort of see the logic, a lot of buyers used to request marking an item as gift because for their country gift items escape customs. It's only recently that I've heard gift items are now being taxed higher than non gift items. So some sellers might just do it out of habit thinking they're doing something good for their buyer.

As for the high value, it's the scenario >>8287522 mentions. If it does get lost over the Atlantic, then you can claim back the full $250 (or however much your shipping insurance covers). If she had marked it at $50, then she can only claim back $50. It's really not in seller's interests to mark down packages, because buyers will file paypal disputes for the full amount regardless, what seller wants to lose $200 just because you wanted a chance to escape a $50 customs fee?

Next time you buy, sort things out with your seller before she sends the parcel out. Try and remember that if you're dealing with international sellers, they don't know the ins and outs of your country's customs laws, especially such a weird one as taxing gift packages higher than normal.

>>8287414
any stores you will recommend for boleros?

>>8287498
She is a pathological liar, so most likely no, she isn't a model.

She lied about where she was born, her nationality, her past, and not to mention, her buyers (wearing their dresses before shipping when she was a shopping service.)

Plus let's be real, she is pretty fug and has no proof of modeling work.

>>8287529
I guess now, after being Japanese, then Russian (or was it German?), she is totes Korean kek

Has anyone seen this article in The Village Voice today?

http://www.villagevoice.com/microsites/lolitas-of-nyc/

>>8287538
Not all sellers understand what is up with customs because some countries barely get hit with customs. I am in the US and never once got a custom fee, but a few times when I shipped my buyer got hit with them which I felt really bad about.

If you are outside the US, I think your responsibility to ask about marking down price because sellers may not know what will happen to your country.

Also, it is technically illegal to mark down the value, so some sellers don't want to break the law. If the payment is sent as a gift, I would be more comfortable declaring the value as low, but otherwise it's kinda just tough cookies.

>>8287602
Oops sorry this was to >>8287512

>>8287285
>Oldschool style welcome
just do sleeveless then

Sort of like Holy Lantern and their carousel prints

>>8287652
Shit i love that OP! Any info on this?

>>8287652
source?

>>8287652
bruh more info

>>8287652
>that name
>kek

>>8287652
>Not Another Fucking Carousel Print

>>8287660
>>8287682
>>8287691
http://yaplog.jp/yokohama-ap/archive/2365

>>8287652
YOU GET A CROSS, and you get a cross! and ALL YALL GET CROSSES!

>>8287652
gys i think this would be really good fot a sweet punk look what do you think

>>8287598
I found the writing cringeworthy and the photos interesting. Thanks for sharing.

>>8287325
What is this dress? It's so cute...

>>8287652

After Holy Lantern I swore I would buy the next flocked chiffon thing AP put out

But that carousel mixed with crosses. No.

>>8287721
well fuck me in the ass. I really want that JSK, but only because I feel so bad I never got the special celestial.

>>8286352
Hey, anon, where would you buy more of those hats? I've wanted to buy some.

>trying to save for spending money for when i go to japan in june
>but spending so much for outfits to take with me to japan so i can look kawaii while im there

help me lord

>>8287753
It's called a boater hat.

>>8287739
Meta velveteen doll JSK
someone is selling it in black in the BST

what are the logistics of (and some good ground rules to set when) hosting a group order?

specifically I'm interested in doing a group order with my comm from cyperous, probably just through an SS like fromjapan (I heard there was an english website but when I tried to go to it I just got an error page? additionally are you able to order from cyperous as an international customer because when I googled I didn't really find a whole lot of answers)

>>8285190
Gosh that print is perfect, I dont blame her fascination.

>>8287722
Thanks, Oprah!

>>8287776
ANON that's exactly me omg ahah (same month too!). I keep thinking, I definitely need a AP dress when I'm shopping, IW on this certain day and next thing I know..

So much for going there with the clothes on my back and a empty suitcase for shopping pfft

>>8287797
Set a deadline.
Make everyone list out clearly what they want.
Have everyone paypal you the money in gift form, order it, etc, the rest should be obvious.

>>8287652
It honestly looks like a fan made print to me because it's like a weird baby of all their carousel prints x Holy Lantern. I feel like it's going to sell out in 2 min flat so I won't even bother, but I do like that JSK.

>>8287598
Loved the photos, but the girl in your pic needs to get good at trimming bangs.

>>8287624
I was gonna say this but I think the fact it's velvet not cotton means it probably needs some sort of arm covering because it's designed for less hit weather. Either way, if you wanna go the old school route, maybe just tag it "old school lolita" and not "lolita fashion" if you want to avoid butthurt.

>>8287598
That comm is a train wreck my god.

>>8287776
The feels, anon, the feels. I'm going in June too and having the same problem.

>>8287590
http://www.acquamodels.com/node/1149
>those measurements kek
Most agencies will take _anyone_ but actually getting work is another matter altogether

>>8287512
Marking as a gift is fine (at least for Europe), though illegal, until it's
A) over £40 and they start charging VAT (I think this is relatively new?)
B) over £120 where they start charging duty
(May be slightly different depending on country)
A good way to avoid/get lower tax is to mark it as 'used' or '2nd hand' (I don't remember which term they use on customs decleration slips), because used items (particularly clothing) are taxed at a far lower rate. And, at least in this case, it's the truth

>>8288063
There is no option for marking it as "used/secondhand" but you can write it in the description part. I usually mark as a gift, write the description (1 dress, etc) and then "used clothing, for personal use only"

>>8288063

The issue is not that. No seller is going to remember all this unless they also live in Europe. Heck, unless a European regularly buys things from overseas, even they aren't going to remember all these rules. There's no way any seller can remember all the effing customs rule for every single country/trading bloc on the entire planet.

When you buy internationally, work things out with the seller before they ship it. Don't cry about it after if you didn't bother to work it out.

Why no skirts? I was pissed when there was no dolly cat skirt and again with this print, no skirt. I hope its no going to be an ongoing trend

>>8288175
Nobody buys them. There's always a ton of leftover skirts in stock after a release

>>8288190
I thought skirts would be more popular now with the rise of otome styled stuff. but i guess your right

Oh man, I just noticed I got posted in the last it's thread lmfao wish it wasn't archived before I could reply

>oh well

>>8288234
The skirts have some tiny waists very often.

>>8287776
>>8287816
>>8287982
Why don't you just pack 1-3 outfits and buy outfits for the rest of the trip there for cheap?

>>8288260
its buying skirts that has helped me get and keep my weight down tbh. its a big reason why I prefer them as they act as a 'safeguard' to me getting to big

>>8288260
I usually but skirts because they are the only thing that fits.

>>8288249
What would you have even said?

Anyway this happened to me once, but it was a group shot.

>>8287003
Oh damn this is a cute idea! I want to make one now for my bows. Thanks anon! (Right now mine are kept in a basket...)

>>8288234
I would buy skirts in a heartbeat if the waist would fit comfortably...but also, their skirts are way too short for me.
Maybe they'll make them longer someday so they're more wearable.

>>8288276

Thanks to the people who called vendetta ahaha
I take critique well, but that one girl was salty as hell lmfao

>>8288157
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. The buyer has to tell the seller any particulars about shipping that they may be unaware of. For your own sake as a buyer it's important to know this stuff so you don't get hit by customs unfairly...though to be honest the customs system in Europe is pretty unfair anyway.

>>8288097
Haven't filled out a customs declaration in ages so I couldn't remember. At least if you get charged and it's on the form (in the description as you said) you can appeal it.

>>8287598
Wow Victoria sparklecunt is so fat in candids. the shoops ain't fooling anyone.

>>8287652
I would love this, if it didn't have fucking crosses all over it.

>>8287652

>>8288273
Same. AP jsks and ops have gotten huuuge. It's ridiculous.

>>8288353
Fucking fatty chans ruining AP

>>8288347
kek.
I'd buy that, though.

>>8287388
>With Liz Lisa model at Famise 70% off sale
since when are shopgirls models

darceygrowsup being-45-year-old-lolita dramu. What a horrible lower class old slag

>>8288414
Rufflechat anon here, I'm hoping cgl will join us in this discussion on her shitty page and tear this jelly, sandy & salty old hag a new one.

>>8287388
I see she's found a new group to lie to and scam. And is making another Korea visa renewal run.

>>8288425
Oh believe me, already on it!

>>8288404
Meta's shopgirls also model their stuff afaik

>>8288063
You're wrong anyway. Gift limit before they charge VAT is £36 not £40, unless it's DHL in which case it's £30. Import taxes kick in at £135.

I don't think marking as used affects the tax rate, but it makes a parcel with a low declared value look less suspicious.

This is a stupid question I'm sure, please don't chew my ass out for it, but I want to leave Lolita soon. I'm going to stop following communities and checking brand websites, looking for coord pictures, etc. However, I don't want to get rid of my clothes. I plan to continue wearing them mixed in with my regular clothing and coordinated like regular clothing, and maybe occasionally wearing them the way they were originally intended in an obviously Lolita looking coord, but I have no plants to buy more Lolita clothes. I'm just not interested in the fashion anymore as a whole, but still love the clothes I already own and would hate to get rid of them just because I no longer feel interested in the fashion.
Does that mean I'm not actually leaving Lolita if I continue to wear the clothes, especially if I wear then coordinated into an obviously lolita outfit once in a while?

>>8287797
Anon you can order directly from cyperous with a credit card. Group order is a good idea still it will turn out slightly cheaper with shipping.

>>8288467
nah, you're still a lolita if youre wearing obviously lolita outfits. i guess you could say that youre "leaving the lolita /community/" instead or smth

>>8287728
Fucking no.

>>8288467
holy shit you're way over thinking this. if you want to wear your dresses as normalfag clothes, don't call it lolita

>>8288478
it was a joke in reference to that CoF troll, anon.

>>8287598
Yup. Not liking how it paints a rose tinted picture of the area. I wish Amber wasn't involved in the whole thing given her reputation and poor event planning skills. I find it weird that I used to look up to her (this was ages ago).

>>8286352
Ditch the dress straps. Maybe attach red cross ties.
If you can do alterations/sewing or have money for a tailor or whatever, cut some length off the bottom of the skirt and attach tulle/ruffles there instead. Depends what you're into, but the bottom of the dress is slightly too long for in my opinion. You could even just make it a bit shorter and then attach some lace trim.
Apron, MAYBE. Sometimes you can pull it off, other times nah.
As for the daisy stuff, personally I'd go with cherries instead cause it matches.
This could be a good coord, anon!

And that is the extent of my knowledge

>>8288470
hm, okay. the only problem is I don't read japanese so I'm afraid of messing something up when filling things out - is there some sort of guide anywhere like how there's one for closet child? (again, I tried googling about international cyperous ordering and didn't find anything helpful, perhaps I'm using the wrong search terms?)

on that note, has anyone ever used their half-wigs before? or half wigs in general? there's one on their website that i'm interested in.

>>8288456
It appears I messed up my numbers. I thought there was a lower VAT rate on used clothing? Maybe I'm thinking of another country

>>8288266
You can still start to look fat and have the same waist size. Your arms/legs/face can get fuller and you can lose muscle tone.

>mfw someone actually believes what you wrote, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised of such stupidity when this is the internet afterall

>>8287489
They're usually Saturdays around noon. Go like AP USA on Facebook for updates.

>bringing my friend to her first Lolita meet up
>I'm not attending, but was helping friend do make up and dress up and giving her a ride before I do family stuff
>my boyfriend is already waiting there to accompany my friend
>walk up to meet up with my friend
>she says she forgot her purse in car
>tell her to go on ahead and I'll catch up with her with her purse
>arrive at meet up
>friend heads toward my boyfriend gives him a big hug
>he looks like he is about to greet her with a kiss on the lips
>they both see me and there's a look of shock in their facial experiences
>they then tilt their heads so it looks like they are about to kiss each other the cheek and not the lips
>hand friend her purse
>head back to my car and drive off

situations like that make me go 'Hmmmmm'

>>8288633
just ask your comm how they were acting around each other. do they normally give big hugs like that around you? if he seemed to be acting very differently, just break up.

>>8288693

they don't do big hugs around me. mostly just casual hugs where their bodies aren't really touching.

>>8287652
Will this go up on the website?

>>8288696
how long have you been dating?

break up break up break up break up

>>8288710

We have been dating for almost 8 months. We have been friends for about 2 years before that. I got him into Lolita and we got our friend into Lolita. Not really close to the Lolita comm they were visiting so they didn't know I was dating him. They probably fucked at the meet up.

goddamnit. it's one thing to cheat, but I just wish it didn't involve my friend so now I feel like I'm going to lose 2 friends instead of 1.

>>8288633
>facial experiences

http://page18.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/w117904024
It's pretty cheap for now (even though it will probably increase quickly) so I thought it could maybe interest someone here.

>>8287598
Is that Richard dude really 26? He looks about 55.

>>8288766
That's Funk Brothers!

>>8288347
>topkek
>imagine a pattern inspired by Sonic's Night Carnival stages though

>>8288819
>or casino night stages

>>8287652
It's like they throw all of their popular elements together:
Chiffon dresses + carousel print + crosses + subtle sweetness
It's just chocolate missing.

>>8288817
Oh, that explains a lot.

>>8288766
Grad school ages people. idk. I had to look through the article again and imo, everyone looks pretty bad there (lighting, angle, or something). Everyone's fussing over Victoria being fat, but I'm seeing more of her looking really aged there.

>>8287776
Saaame

I'm even going to Japan in June

>>8288883
>Grad school

What is he doing in grad school for? Is he at NYU or Columbia?

>>8288883
I think the others look okay, if not as good as normal, it's just you and the newb looking out of place. I don't know any of those involved so maybe they look older, but none of the others look actively old.

>>8286923
I just want a lovely dress with cats on it that doesn't look tacky. that's all I want.

>>8288893
City planning, iirc, and no, he's in Ohio and happened to be visiting NYC during the time of this article getting made.

>>8288721
you're not losing anything by letting go of those pieces of trash.

try to talk to the girls who were at the meet or look for pics on Facebook.a guy is really noticeable, so somebody might be able to tell you they saw them holding hands or getting close.

>>8287776
>>8287816
>>8287790

any of you girls want to possibly meet up in Japan? maybe we can eat at swallowtail butler cafe, milky way, etc..? email in the name field.

>>8288414
Her responses to comments are ridiculous. It's so obvious that she's insecure about how old and ugly she is.

>>8288856
>next dress: Shadow Chocolate Dream Carnival

>>8288915
>implying people want to meet up with your reputation

>>8288950

what's wrong with meeting up with her?

>>8288633
1. Take back all the things you've ever lent either of them
2. Dump them both
If they were shocked that you got there when you did, nothing good could have been going on.

>>8288234
I love skirts because they can be worked into otome. I'm so saaaaaaad ;-;

>>8287745
Lol same but I just got dolly cat

>>8288950
What reputation?

>>8288956
>>8289007
Assuming this isn't just her, people were talking about it a couple of generals ago, IIRC she moved to Scotland from another comm, then said a bunch of nasty things about the Scottish comm to girls in her old comm, not realising that the girls she was bitching to were friends with some girls she was slagging off. It's in the archives There was something else as well but the thing I remember is her being a cunt about an entire comm without realising that in such a small country as the UK the girls all know each other.

>>8289027
anon, I'm sorry but that isn't me, im from the USA.

>>8289027
You're getting confused, that was lolisourgrapes. Sandycapo is a different girl.

>>8288950
>>8289027
Both of these were me and I apologise, I feel like an idiot for getting two names that are so dissimilar confused.

>>8288580
Crazy i know, but people gain and carry weight differently.

>>8285005
I really want the Dolly Cat JSK.... HNGD' Gonna fight to the death

>>8287598
>http://www.villagevoice.com/microsites/lolitas-of-nyc/
I feel like this photographer really sucks, or purposefully tried to make the people he photographed look old and terrible. Lighting is IMPORTANT.

Swan Lake is my favorite ballet and I want to like this release, I really do, but everything just looks off. Also the headband looks like something you could buy off etsy for ten bucks.

>>8289406
The art reminds me of children's books from the 70s. I'm a big ballet fan but this is just meh.

Fucking midlife crisis-chan thread deleted

Rufflechat is officially more fun than 4chan now, how sad

>>8289406
Thats aatp?? Man, that looks awful as a stock photo. Maybe as some random persons coord snap, but the dress is lopsided, too many bodice wrinkles, blouse looks too cheap, and the straps of the jsk are falling down (even if intentional the one on the right side is bad).

>>8289421

what the fuck

first lace, then this shit. janitor be fucking things up by deleting actual shit relevant to the community

fuck this shit. 4chan has become a turd

>>8289421
>>8289428
> hachi-chan time

>>8289428

The janitor hates dolly doll faces. That's why it gets bahleeted.

>>8289421
>>8289428
She has a thread on lolcow now if you all wanna go over there.

>>8289421
This. I prefer /egl/ but not enough people go there.

>>8286352
You can find the necklace and similar ones for less than $2 on aliexpress, hair clip for $1 on ebay, and bag for $12 on aliexpress, all shipped.
Just search cherry pearl necklace, cherry bow clip, cherru straw bag etc. I have them all and they're nice.

>>8289428
Yea I don't see the rationale here. People were discussing an article that is 100% relevant to the community. No one was trying to dox the author or anything like that. Jesus

Do cosplay threads get deleted as often as lolita ones do? I feel like there is a serious bias going on

>>8289428
i don't think the janitor understood what was happening there. someone attacking a subculture online should be someone we can discuss... would a thread about general libel toward the community be allowed instead?

Can i ask why people put stuff like "i only wore it once, the previous owner never wore it and the owner before that wore it three times" and other such shit in their sales descriptions? Like you can describe the condition without giving a detailed history of how many times it was worn by how many people.

>>8289454

Because "barely used' means something different to everyone so wearing something 1-3 times gives people a much clear picture of how used a dress is. Also, some people prefer to buy things used by famous people so they can feel like they are hugging that famous person whenever they wear that dress.

>>8289469
flashback to that insane creep selling that dress "worn by milkyfawn!!!!!!"

>>8286654
How would you go about making a bow like this? I can see how it folds but can't work out how to make them stay like that with out stitching showing through

>>8289454
Because some people think that people are touting something as ~new unused~ when it passed through the hands of 3 different people who tried on and didn't like it on them- and 3 tryons might be enough for some people to consider it used. It's a courtesy and a goodwill showing of honesty on the seller's part.

>>8289512
Usually they're wired.

>>8289485
Oh god
deets?

>>8289657
what's annoying is when half of those who list things like that still insist they're ~new unused~ and worth BNWT value

>>8289699
Depends on your opinion of unused. Half the clothing you buy from a normalfag store has been tried on by more people before you than a lolita item has and you're still paying BNWT for it.

>>8288721
Post what comm it is? Maybe someone on here can tell you or find out.

>>8289406
you're not wrong but i still want it

>>8289672
I don't have any caps or anything, maybe another anon does? But I remember while browsing LSE one day this girl had some urgent sales post and she was like "I have to sell my most prized possesion". I forget exactly which dress it was? but she very clearly stated like at least 2 times "This dress has been worn by THE milkyfawn" and just said how she admired her a lot. It was weird af. I felt bad for milkyfawn. Don't mean to start a debate or anything here so I hope I don't derail the thread, but after seeing that I definitely could see she supposedly had left due to not being comfortable with her online presence anymore. I wouldn't either if I had weirdos like that esp considering like...she was just a normal girl that was into the fashion like all of us are. Not a celebrity or the queen. Chill.

>>8289746
Here you go

Also identifying the images with rice was really hard... one was like rice pudding

>>8289763
thanks anon! IIRC she freaked out in the comments when people said that it was very odd for her to mention that? (or am I just imagining this)

and yeah some of the image identifications are weird, sometimes I get ones that like, seem to only have just 1 photo of what they want but you need to select multiple photos...

>>8289818
Yeah I have that part too.
And the food that they use in the pictures looks so gross...

"While Lolita may have begun as a fashion for Japanese girls and women who wished to step away from sexual fashion I can’t quite divorce it from sexual fetish or see it as anything but the infantilisation of grown women. "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzSVLYS-HZE

The link to her blog post with all this shit is in the description, I can't post it here because spam

This bitch is dumb and deletes all comments haha

>>8289406
The bodice is tight and boned, but they cheaped out on construction. Fabric that lightweight needs to be underlined for a fitted, structured bodice like that or it looks like wrinkly, wonky crap. So it looks like crap. Though correct construction wouldn't do anything about the tacky print design or awkward style.

And where the hell are you supposed to put your tits in the high waist version? This cut literally wouldn't fit an A cup. That waist is nipple-height.

>>8289890
AatP has just been such a fuck up lately. Their ceslestial egg print (idk what it's actually called but it has that horrid mintxpurple colourway) looked terrible, and the most recent mermaid print had a nice print but the cuts were boring and not flattering.

They ewer doing okay with the whole jewel-tone lightweight fabric thing when it was that tealength tiered ruffled hem thing over and over again, but can we go back to having decent cuts?

>>8289917
harmonia was btssb, but yeah, their cuts in general have been looking really dumpy

>>8289890
That OP was clearly made with, and only with, brolitas in mind. Pity too, because if was a regular empire that could actually accommodate breast tissue, I'd totally get it.

>>8289832
what the fuck
is this a troll? she cares too much about other people
i think shes sad because she wanted to wear lolita but feels too old and missed her chance.

>>8289983
I feel the same way. I think she wants to wear lolita deep down but is too hung up over her age to even try.

>>8289983

Be careful, janitor might wipe it again if you keep talking

>>8287721
What is the little round thing top right? AP nipple pasties?

Would anyone be interested in making a clothing color reference guide for lolita? Inconsistent coloring within and across brands have been a problem for many of us who are more anal-retentive about matching stuff, and I was thinking about starting a sort of list or chart of what colors from what pieces are the same or similar enough to be used as duplicates of each other. This would be a pretty big project that would require multiple gulls with relatively large wardrobes to work, and I guess I'm posting this to see if anyone would be interested, or is this too big/too dumb of an idea?

>>8289832
God that was the most obnoxious video, 3 minutes of talking about how weird dolly makeup is, then shitting on everyone who does it. Does this woman know that classic/gothic lolita exists?

>>8287538
>>8287602
It would be useful for /cgl/ to create a spreadsheet listing different customs/importing rules for different countries. Just a simple, easy-to-read checklist like
> USA - Taxes gifts higher: yes, Parcel loss rate: medium, Customs fees: medium to high, Recommended shipping methods: aisjaf
> Canada - Taxes gifts higher: yes, Parcel loss rate: medium, Customs fees: medium, Recommended shipping methods: aisjaf
It could be linked to for BST threads or to avoid repetitious questions.

Can international customers buy from booth.pm or do I need a SS?

>>8290046
It's a brooch but lmao.

>>8289421
>>8289447
>>8289449

Janitor seems obligated to delete threads that discuss a single individual, doxxing or no. >>8289428's idea with a thread discussing multiple individuals might be able to fly better.

>>8289512

Hide the stitches in the folds. Make a bow from ribbon as normal. Note that the bow part is a loop, not just a rectangle. This is important as it's where your needle will come in and out of.

Then, fold back the first part of the tail. Where the edge of the bow is, make a holding stitch that holds the folded-back tail in place, it goes through the lower layer of the bow, but it does not pierce the upper layer of the bow. It's fiddly to do, open up the loop of the bow and you can reach it fairly easily.

Then, fold the tail outwards again, and make a second holding stitch, hide this stitch in the fold-back part that you made earlier. Does that make sense?

Then presss it, or put something heavy on it, so that the folds become more prominent.

Use fairly stiff ribbon, don't use floppy chiffon or gauze. I made something similar out of interfaced quilting cotton that I attached to a headband, but it was pretty stiff on its own before being attached, and didn't need to be wired.

>>8290047

It's more like you need to be in it for the long haul -- brands release items every year, and every year they vary their colours, sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. So you could put in a lot of work classifying items up until now, and then next year it'll be outdated already. Even lolibrary is lacking lackeys to keep it consistently updated -- some of the plainer btssb and aatp items don't make it to the database, which means you may end up having to do a lot of modding yourself instead of relying on volunteers. Definitely don't start it if you think you'll be leaving lolita next year or going through life-changing situations.

That said, I could see it as being very useful. Even just a database that consists of nothing but photos showing same colour items from different releases side by side (eg a photo of IW's ivory blouse with a photo of AP's ivory bag), searchable by release name, colour and brand name, would be really useful. Maybe it can just be a tumblr that accepts submissions, and each item is tagged with the release name, colour, brand? Not the most advanced classification out there, but quite easily maintained.

Am I the only lolita who doesn't like the bell shape, but prefers a more flared look to dresses and gets pettis just to obtain that look?

>>8290365
No you are not the only lolita who prefers the a-line silhouette.

>>8290365

Please please don't tell me you're putting a line petticoats under a bell shape dress

>>8290365
I like a-line skirts/dresses better as well, if that's what you mean.

>>8290377
Why would I waste money on a type of dress I can't flare?

>>8290374
More like these.

>>8290365
Yes, yes just you. Wow look at how special you are, we're all going to bow down at your superior flare aesthetics now.

Is Krad Lanrete's Phantom super popular? Specifically black & gold short jsk.
Found it for sale with headdress and brooch for over $200, but I'm not sure if that's a good price or not.

>>8290197
I think I get it! Ty anon!
Do you have any photos of what you made?

>>8290384
Thats not even what I meant, but okay. I just don't see many.

>>8289890
why this cut again. why

>>8290405

The headbow's still here somewhere, but my wardrobes are in mighty overwhelming messes. I'll see if I can find them, I'll post a photo either here or next lolita general if I do.

>>8290400

It's more like Krad had production problems when they were making these, so it's in short supply rather than high demand, if that makes sense. There's probably a few lolitas who want it badly enough to pay a high price for it, but in terms of the number of girls who covet it, more girl want Mozarabic Chant than Phantom.

>>8288580
I am still fat, have quite a lot to drop before I hit my target weight. but not fitting into skirts I know fit me now is the line in the sand I will not cross.

>>8290415
>>8290380

That's not a matter of lolitas liking rectangle cuts, it's easier for the manufacturers (yes, the burandos) to print the border print as one long continuous print along the edge of a roll of fabric. Then it's easy to use the same roll of fabric to make different jsk and OP styles, the skirt is always a rectangle cut from the border side, and the skirt length can be freely varied without worrying about making a flared circle accidentally too tight or too flared.

The one you linked is embroidered instead of having a border print. I rather wish they would bring those embroidered ones back, but we seem to be in the middle of a heavy print fad, so I guess for now, we're kind of stuck with either rectangle skirts or tiered skirts (which uses tiers to create the flare shape that you say you like, but the trade-off is that there is a seam running through the middle of the skirt).

>>8290487
Thanks for that information. I just see way more bells than I do flares and if not flares, then I see just tiers to the mid calf length. This is why I was asking. It really had nothing to do with special snowflake stuff.

I know it's an overrated dress but does anyone happen to have pics of Lost in Sea jsk in the long version, being worn? It looks beautiful but I'm afraid to look stumpy in it and can't seem to find many pictures of the long version. Thank you in advance

>>8290510
>Lost in Sea jsk
Google is hard to use

>>8290502

It's the "am I the only one?" part that will always result in accusations of snowflakery. Next time just post a statement/question, people will answer you normally. Avoid usage of the phrase "am I the only one" at all costs, I've never not seen it devolve into namecalling.

>>8290522
People just need to calm down and realize not everyone is from tumblr and isn't looking for special treatment.

>>8290517
I said I couldn't find many pictures, not that I couldn't find any at all. Someone could happen to have photos of a short lolita in the long jsk, so I asked. Thank you for the one you posted, though

>>8290468
Okay thank you for the info

>>8286654
>>8289512
I've made these types of bows, a nice glue will do the trick, just a couple dots of E6000 in strategic points. Apply with a toothpick or qtip since the felted ribbon will show glue marks easily. I tried sewing the folds but it's damn fiddly and more difficult to manipulate, and takes 4-5x as long (threading, knotting, cutting, reknotting)

I sold my Phantom blueXgold jsk for 220USD, I think it's a steal in a set. It's rare since production was quite difficult due to the slippery fabric and gold embossing.

>>8290670
Thanks! This definitely helps

>>8289406
Fan+Friend tier, goddamn

>>8290510
i just sold my short jsk because it made me look super frumpy and i'm 165cms
the bodice ends a bit too high and is not a good look on me

Is ero lolita actually a thing? I've only seen maybe 2 examples of it that weren't costume-tier, and they were both magazine scans. Do people actually wear it?

>>8290727
Tamie-love does some good examples of ero

>>8290727
Yes, it's a thing (mentioned in glorious Japanese publications such as the G&L bible etc on several occasions). It is however not all that easy to pull off and gained a reputation for being a go to style for the people that couldn't afford or get hold of 'real lolita' (which often involved chucking on a short flared skirt and a corset).

I actually love it, especially when there's nice attention to detail.

>>8286352
The dress is horrid.

>>8289992

why the fuck did they do that anyway, what's their problem

>>8290875
Thanks. I like some of those examples, though it's very different from how I usually picture lolita. The top far left girls look more like western-style Goths to me.

I just never see anyone wearing it. I never see punk lolita, either. Which is sad, because I've really liked some of the few examples I've seen of it.

>>8290951
> See punk
> SEA PUNK
Sea punk lolitas would be awesome.

>>8290098
Countries change their policies all the time, it'd go out of date fast. It's the buyer's responsibility to inform the seller about marking down.

Also Europe over her laughing at the U.S. thinking they have high taxes.

>>8290951
Here's a larger pic, it's pretty oldschool ero, like the kind of style more often seen/worn at goth/fetish clubs like Tokyo Dark Castle back in the day, and I would agree it has a lot more in common with regular goth than any other sub-style (I do however think it's distinct in its own way).

>>8291107
you can see a couple of ero examples here too.

Speaking of ero lolita. Any recommendations for shorter petticoats suitable for mini dresses that hit more around mid thigh? Taobao preferred.

>>8291092
I think the person was just writing down examples arbitrarily to show how it should be formatted? I'm from the U.S. and I've never gotten hit with a customs tax ever.

>>8291115
On this particular rare occasion, I actually think bodyline may be a good bet.

>>8290487
>I rather wish they would bring those embroidered ones back

ugh, same.

>>8291174
Some of Bodyline's are scratchy enough to snag or damage stockings and tights, go eBay maybe?

>>8289890
God, it looks *above* nipple height to me even for a-cup girls! I want to like AaTP but they just haven't been cutting it lately.

>>8289890
Would this cut flatter anyone? I'm honestly confused. I know my boobs couldn't fit in that, but I'm also a DDD cup...

>>8289890
I have practically concave breasts and a short torso and I feel like I would look like a fucking G cup in that shit holy balls.

>>8291174
I have a Leg Avenue short petti from a halloween store that I use for mid-thigh skirts, it's pretty okay and I paid maybe 5 or 6 dollars for it.

Also the scratchiness of a petti doesn't matter if you're going for that old-school bloomers-showing style that a lot of the ero pics in this thread have going on

>tfw changeable weather is forecast for a meet
>either it'll be sunny, justifying a parasol, or with a chance of rain, justifying an umbrella
>either way I get to bring one
>success

I feel like parasols and frilly umbrellas that look like parasol are a much more old-school accessory. I used to see them a lot in photoshoots but they're rarer nowadays. Anyone still a fan?

>>8291333
I have super sensitive skin and so I take one pretty much regardless. I usually only buy those UV umbrella/parasol combos just incase, but I really actually like them as accessories as well. They're fun and useful and I can help to guide the group when we're on the move by holding it up in the air.

>>8290235
Who made lolibrary? It's great, but they could be using a crawler to get new releases.

>>8287776
>>8288886
Holy crap, at least two lolitas going to Japan during MONSOON SEASON.

I hope you stay at a place that has an AC. And a dryer. And even with the dryer, getting your clothes dry is not 100% guaranteed. I don't recommend going in lolita, one because you'll be freaked out about prints running, and two because if you sweat, the high humidity is going to make it very uncomfortable.

At least you'll have fewer tourists to contend with, precisely because the long rains can be awfully depressing. And many temples and shrines will look really nice in rain.

Good luck!

>>8290875
Oh my gosh the girl on the bottom left was the first lolita/coord I ever saw and the one who made me fall in love with it.
At least I'm 99% sure.
It was a long time ago, and a different photo.

Actually I stopped for a second and went to look it up. Yep same girl. Pic related.
Cool to see a second photo of her

>>8291413
Sorry, turns out it's at least four, maybe five.

I highly recommend doing a group reservation at the Swallowtail Butler cafe on Ikebukuro. They have a 3000 yen penalty for a no-show, though.

>>8291397
The girl who originally made lolibrary passed away a few years ago, I don't know who the mods/owners are now. I do know they need volunteers, though, so check the site to see if there's a way to contact them!

>>8291333
i fucking love parasols
i want to collect so many of them in different colors, plus burando parasols
not only can they protect you from the sun and rain but they're cute as fuck, so win/win

>>8291421
It looks less ita in the photo you've just posted than the one above, at least.

>>8288414
I seriously thought that chick was a drag-queen when she was brought up on Rufflechat, until the discussion eventually let me know otherwise. Whoops.

I may be actually wanting the Taobao thread on this one, but is there any way to buy Long Ears and Sharp Ears reserve and newest stuff on their Taobao? I want the Goldfish and Fireworks series but the my currency is still shit right now compared to the USD. I looked at their taobao and I can't find it. Is it possible and I'm just being retarded, or do they just prefer to deal with their new crap on storenvy or what?

>>8287776
I'm going in late June/early July too.

thread just hit autosage, new one is over here

>>8291623

>>8289917
I really miss late 2000's AATP. Always great cuts, so many great prints...

>>8289827
meh. girl responding seems really cunty

>>8291421
Wait, wasn't there something about this girl appearing in 4-5 shots in multiple magazines?