/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Seems like Cherry Marguerite and Melty Berry Princess are getting preorders

http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/index_20150420.htm

Does anyone else feel like their heart hurts a little when you see dresses you love the look of?

I get this for non-print dresses and I feel dumb for getting worked up over clothing.

>>8264831
same here anon, esp Holy Lantern. Drives me up the wall.

Q: What are some nice long A line pettis?

I got some burando from Japan in the mail the other day. My SO got really excited. "Where's the candy?" I had to inform him that pretty much only Korean indie brands put treats in with the packages. He was so adorably disappointed.

How do you buy from Wonder Welt? Do I have to get a personal SS? I won an auction on Y!Jap from them and just recieved an email from Buyee telling me the seller cancelled the auction and buyee are refunding me.

Has anyone here brought the Infanta chiffion underdress?
I'm trying to pick between the cream and the white, but I've heard that the Infanta cream can be a pale yellow.

Is anyone else getting sick of Chinese Lolitas driving up the price of secondhand brand?
I remember when it was crazy to see the holy trinity exceeding the $1000 mark, and now there are so many dresses peaking past even PC prices.
I'm not one usually to complain about prices, but I feel like there has been a huge shift in price range of brand from when I first began lolita to now.
Even unpopular prints, now days rarely go under retail.

>>8264910
Related color question.

http://v-maiden.ya.shopserve.jp/shopping/tops/front-laceup-bl.html
Are the colors black, offwhite and some light beige? And they only have the black and beige pictured?

>>8264895
this is actually really cute anon. keep him

>>8264911
Yes and No.

Yes, as it makes western girls justify their prices for unpopular pieces. The recent shitstorm with Wonderfinch is a good example.

No, it makes me look at my current wardrobe/ auction items and ask myself do I really need it.

The only areas it's changed is my opinion of trying to get items when they get released first time. However, AP is not a brand I like to wear so I do feel sorry (and annoyed) for the girls by the way AP does their releases.

>>8264910
Looks like chemise a la reine.
I have a similar chiffon blouse from them, I think in cream. It's close to btssb ivory, a bit lighter. I wouldn't describe it as pale yellow unless you would call most ivory that. (I mean I think it's their cream, it certainly is not even close to offwhite)
It's quite sheer by the way, bra colour shows through a bit.
Just chose whatever tone suits you more, I would personally pick the cream for myself.

>>8264930
Inspo for you if you wear it as overdress
A waist tie in a colour such as pale blue, pink, wine, pale yellow (if you get the white). Flower brooches if you're wearing any and a big elegant straw hat with coordinating ribbon.
Just make sure to wear a slip.

>>8264911

There's still a fair amount of dresses on yja and mbok under 10k yen, and some of the unpopular dresses have been relisted over and over without buyers. I think it's just an in-between season, spring cleaning season is over and sales season hasn't started, so I guess not many girls have reason to dump their things on the market for cheap.

I wouldn't put the price increases entirely at the chinese lolitas' feet, they seem to go for some very specific prints and totally ignore the rest of the market. You're pretty all right so long as your dream print isn't something they're after, the sellers will eventually realise the price is too high and bring it back down.

And anyhow, I remember when Iron Gate used to go for only double the retail, and then shortly afterwards some European lolita started bidding it up to over $1000. So you could lay the blame for Iron Gate costing that much at the feet of European lolitas, if you need to blame a group of people for price increases.

>>8264930
Thank you for your help!
It'll be going under my MM Poppy OP, so I think a big hat will match nicely.

>>8264945
Definitely go cream for that! You're gonna be super cute.

>>8264829
I hate Cherry Marguerite so much. Those damn daisy crosses are so ugly and just totally ruin the print.

>>8264911
This is not true. There's still a ton of stuff going for below 15k, sometimes even less. I do get shivers every time I see chocolate rosette or misty sky up though (which has been quite often recently) because the prices are spiraling out of control, but it seems to be only a handful of prints that are affected.

what is a safe way to hide lolita clothing without ruining its quality?

I'm a guy getting into Lolita but I don't want my girlfriend knowing. So far I've just hiding a few dresses in the back of my closet .

>>8264908
Don't they have it on their site? Wunderwelt.jp, try there. Otherwise try Japonica next time or something.

>>8265107
Put them in garment bags (not the plastic ones you get from the drycleaner's), and hang them in the back of your closet. I'd advise against folding them because they get wrinkled, and make sure to check on them regularly.

Having said that, why would you hide it from your gf? If you're meant to last, surely she can handle you wearing dresses in your spare time.

>>8265112

I just don't want her thinking less of me since she is a normie that doesn't like anime or videogames. I'm afraid she would no longer view me as a man if she found out I was into crossdressing. It's one thing to dress up as a girl, but it's another to dress up as a pretty Lolita girl that knows how to put on make up better than her.

>>8265107
most important thing in a relationship: trust. you can't keep all those dresses and packages a secret. eventually you have to tell her.

>>8265120
Fair enough, but I don't know how you expect to make things work if you're so worried she's going to judge you for your hobbies.

Keep in mind though that there's a pretty fair chance she's going to find out one way or another.

would you be okay with a boyfriend that into dressing up as a Lolita? and he's also a CGL poster and dresses up decently

I wish lolita generals had some pastebin or some links to help new people understand more about it and its culture and lingo. or provide some links about where to shop and

>>8265184
As long as he looked good and not ita.

>>8265197
There is, the lolita handbook. We should have that posted as on every lolita general thread imo.

>>8265184
I'd be really into that, actually. As long as he actually tries to look nice in it.

>>8264941
> the sellers will eventually realise the price is too high and bring it back down.
Yeah, right, as if
Lolita isnt charity

>>8264110
I don't believe it. I have a Taobao order going at the moment with a velvet JSK, velvet capelet, two cotton dresses, a blouse, a bag, and a bunch of accessories and the combined weight for everything is only 4.5kg. Love the OP in your picture though.

>>8264079
I didn't even notice the crosses in the print, and it'd not even an architectural print where the focus is on the cathedral architecture - the focus is clearly on the night sky patterns. I'm from a Muslim family that would freak the fuck out if I bought Nameless Poem or even Holy Lantern, and side-eye cathedral prints somewhat, and they would not care about that print at all. Your family and you both need to chill out - it's just a cityscape.

>>8264829
Same anon. I was looking at my dream dress list yesterday and I just felt so frustrated afterwards.

>>8264835
I have one from Malco Modes. I'd say they're pretty good. I have a few friends that use them too.

>>8265341
The seller will do that for their own profit because selling for less is better than not selling at all.

>>8264829

Soooooo happy, the websites were really falling apart on both on these release, and I don't pay over retail for anything I buy.

On a different note, does anyone know what's happening to fairy tale boutique in los angeles? Their latest event announcement makes it sound like they're closing. Not too surprised honestly, no one needs a lolita storefront to get brand or other items, especially not at the markup they label things.

>>8264910
>>8264930
I'm torn on this too because on both pics it looks like the items made with cream fabric still have white lace, which I really don't want. Is that true? Cream suits me better than white but I'd much rather have an all-white piece than a white and cre one.

>>8265128
+1

>>8265184
As long as he didn't have chronic manface and at least kind of passed or looked cute.

>>8265197
The lolita guidebook on tumblr is the latest /cgl/ effort to educate newbies. See also: the lolita handbook on LiveJournal (old but worth a read), hellolace.net (ditto), fyeahlolita on blogspot (really good articles on history and what is lolita and avoiding looking hideously ita, articles on wardrobe building that are outdated compared to how most lolitas dress nowadays but still worth a read), lolita-tips on tumblr (some seagulls don't like her because she's fat and gives coordinate advice when her own coords are mediocre, but she has a lot of good beginner's articles and useful links for shops and things like the Bodyline yen trick and a good tagging system you can search).

>>8264831
Yes, anon, I get that fluttery feeling like when you're talking to the person you like but you don't know if they like you back

The adrenaline rush of clicking "pay now" on a beautiful dress is like no other.

What's the best way to keep dresses from wrinkling? I have one particular dress that's killing me. I ironed it, I hung it up immediately after washing it, I tried steaming it, and it just keeps wrinkling. I'm even keeping it on my dressform with pettis to keep the shape, and the damn thing won't stop wrinkling.

It's BABY and it's 100% cotton.

>>8265403
>100% cotton
Heres your problem. Iron it regularly

I hand washed a dress and let it hang outside and neighborhood kids thought it would be funny to throw eggs at it. :)

>>8265382
damn anon, you're right. I normally never pay attention to their events but this one sounds a little ominous. Hopefully it's just bad wording/they're moving to another location - even if they weren't entirely necessary it was a fun place to meet other people into the fashion. Best of luck to that crew.

I'm about to purchase something from mylolita dress because the item I want is sold out on the taobao store - is this a terrible idea?

does the Lolita general have some sort of IRC/mumble/mibbit chatroom?

>>8265495
Nah, they're pretty good. Just go for EMS because 99% of the time it's not worth it to wait for AIR with the price.

I haven't ever had any issue with them.

Potentially odd question but how to you keep up collars of your OPs? I don't know if I just have a pencil neck but the high neck of my OP just slouches. Fabric tape, black friendly starch, getting goitre- what are some options?

>>8265455
if this happened in my neighbourhood, there would be no kids left

>>8265184
My boyfriend? No, he'd look ridiculous.

If he passed sure, though I'd rather just get a girlfriend.

>>8265455
I hope you told their parents and let them pay for dry cleaning.

>>8265644

"what's an adult woman doing with vintage little girl dresses?"

>>8264895
aww, cute. I think it just depends on how you're getting your package from japan tho - I remember there was a video of milkyfawn opening a package of stuff from an AP release and her SS gave her a kit kat. that's nice that the brands themselves put them in the packages though!

>>8265661
you're being ridiculous anon

go and tell the parents.

>>8265661
"That's none of your business, but what your crotchfruit is doing should be, especially when they're damaging other people's possesssions."

>>8265107
I agree with the other anons...are you afraid to tell her because you're unsure of her reaction, or you believe from past experiences/things she's said that she will have a negative one?

if you're unsure, maybe try to test the waters like watch rupaul's drag race or some shit or just somehow get onto the topic of drag queens and cross dressing and see how she feels about it. if you think she's going to have a negative reaction, well...what the other anons said are true is that she'll probably find out at some point. i don't know her, but if she ends up finding out her own there's also a million different ways it could go because she might get mad that you didn't just tell her straight-up. i know these things aren't easy but i hope you are able to find a way to tell her because hiding things from your SO like that isn't a great way to live in a relationship. i'm not saying you have to break up with her if her reaction is negative either, but also a really important thing in a relationship is being free of (fear of) judgement from partners for things we like to do.

imo, if your girlfriend really loves you/likes you/enjoys you for who you are, she will do her best to try to learn and understand and accept the things you're into

>>8265703

I have no idea how she would react, I'm just afraid it'll be bad . I'm afraid that she could try dealing with it and breaking up with me later when she can't deal with it. I just don't want go through the shame of being into dressing up in Lolita. I'm aware of the drag race show, but I'm not into it. I just really dislike that type of drag queen personality where they think being a girl means being a sassy materialistic bitch. I just like playing dress up, but I don't necessarily want to be a girl. I just think it's cool dressing up and acting like another person or character.

My girlfriend knows I cosplay at conventions. She just doesn't know that I also pack up a dress and go to Lolita meet ups. She doesn't go conventions with me .

I just think she won't like the idea of me crossdressing because she's such a normie with vanilla tastes in everything. I had to explain to her why an adult would be into cosplay. She used to think anime was just Sailor Moon and DBZ stuff.

>>8265741
Anon, it sounds like your girlfriend and you might just be incompatible in certain ways.

Just tell her and explain to her why you like it. Maybe she'll think it's weird but she's either going to accept it or not and you'll know, which is better than hiding it and then having her find out by accident or through someone else. *That's* going to make you look like a weirdo.

>>8265741
still though, either way you tell her and she hates it and eventually breaks up, or she finds out and gets pissed and breaks up. like I said, if she really loves you, she will take the time to try to understand why you like dressing up.

as for the rupaul, I just meant to say to use that as a gauge for what her reaction will be. if she doesn't care much at all about drag queens and has a positive or neutral reaction then hopefully you should be fine telling her about lolita, or vice versa if she has a negative reaction to the show you could either try to explain why a man would be interested in dressing up like/as a woman in a completely non-sexual manner just like how you had to explain why an adult would be into cosplay. again, if she really does care about you enough to keep being in a relationship with you she will try to be patient and understanding of your interests.

like, she's either going to take it or leave it and tbh from my point of view here on the internet i don't know how worth it it will be for you to go and keep hiding it. the worse that could happen is that she gets the idea that because you're hiding it, that it's something sexual in nature which will may make her 10x more uncomfortable then if you just sat her down and said "hey, i have to be honest with you, this is something i like to do, it's not sexual, i don't want to be a woman, i just like cross dressing in lolita because i like the ____ aspect of the fashion". what the other anon said is definitely true in that her accidentally finding out is what will make you look weird or what will be the most embarrassing for the both of you. i'd rather take a few days to muster up the will to tell someone about a hobby i'm afraid they'll find weird, or be caught off guard and confronted awkwardly about it when i least expect it.

>>8264829
you know i was one of the people bitching about the crosses/flowers on cherry marguerite etc in the last thread and now they're growing on me. pray for me.

Could anyone tell me at what time Fururun updates? It used to be one thing, and now it seems a bit inconsistent. Or at least it has changed and I constantly miss it now.

>>8264911
i'm sick of chinese lolitas driving up the price of *specific types of series*. chiffon, the high waist misty sky cut, anything chiffon with princess sleeves.

>>8265832
What about end of immortal eden?

>>8265868
i don't follow aatp releases as much so i didn't know about that one

>>8265544
A lot of high-collared blouses and OPs come with things that time around the neck to make a bow or a jabot. You could try that?

>>8264937
Anyone know where to get hats like the one in that picture?

>>8265661
No, tell their fucking parents.

>>8265544
>if this happened in my neighbourhood, there would be no kids left
I kekked.

>>8265868
God i want this dress so much but not for the price it's going right now

>>8265544
> get goitre

>>8265829
Tuesday, 0:00 JP Time, I think.

can anyone give me advice?? i ordered a bag from dreamv via rakuten and it sat in NY for 4-5 days or so, and then i checked the tracking again today and now it's back in japan? how should i contact rakuten or dreamv? i'm really not sure what i can do and i just want my bag and not waste $40. i checked my shipping info too and i put everything in correctly so i'm not sure why they send it back. this has never happened to me before, nor have i bought from dreamv, so i'm not sure what i can do.

>>8265661
You could always come up with excuses like
> they were my niece's dress that I was going to give to her for her birthday
> they were a family heirloom
> etc.

Either way, it's irrelevant. The kids shouldn't ruin other people's possessions, no matter how odd it may seem to them.

>>8265979
Yeah, in a way it's actually even worse if they thought it was a kid's dress. I mean for all they know they chucked eggs at a family heirloom that was passed down from your great-grandmother, or a kid's Sunday dress. That only makes it more important that you tell the parents.

>>8265966
Yea this happened to me last time I ordered from them in December. They will refund you, and will not re-ship it out.

>>8266044
ugh that sucks, did they give you a reason as to why it happened? can i reorder it?

>>8264792
This dress...

I'll get it one day....

Today I wore a black co-ord only to realise by about 11am that it was going to be a really hot day - hottest day of the year so far. Finally get home after lecture and fall onto the bed to try and cool down before taking my clothes on. When I do try to get up my shoe heel rips a massive hole in my new petticoat.
Fml.

Has anyone ripped their petti before? If I sew the rip up delicately will it effect the shape? It's a really well made A-Line - my poofiest...

>>8264908
Wow, really? That sucks, I was looking to buy a few things from them on yJ... Has anyone successfully bought from them with another SS, like FJ?

>>8264919
Yup, just as you said it.

>>8266080
They gave me no reason, except something vague along the lines of "could not deliver" I didn't reorder because I thought it would end the same way.

>>8264925
>Yes, as it makes western girls justify their prices for unpopular pieces. The recent shitstorm with Wonderfinch is a good example.
>Misty Sky
>unpopular
gurl

how do you girls even use a public restroom toilet with those frilly dresses and petticoats?

dresses touching toilet or bathroom furniture is gross.

>>8266249
weak bait

an anon in the last thread was asking about closet child's "new super gorgeous pannier" and I said I was going to be picking it up from the post office today and I'd post pics.
so of course this is just me trying it on, dunno how it holds up with daily wear or repeated usage but some other anon said they liked it I think? it's also made out of a really stiff tulle, so I think it should end up being pretty sturdy? there's also a lining underneath if you're worried about the tulle being rough against your legs.
if you couldn't tell from the pics I'm a fattychan, surprisingly the waistband is pretty fatty friendly, wasn't sure if the measurements were lying or not on the cc website.
anyways sorry for the quick photo I know my skirt is a little messed up, oops. I like it from what I saw though! The poof was nice (I imagine if your waist is much smaller than mine it would look a bit poofier) and it seems like it'll be a durable petti, but I'll have to wait and see. As for adjusting it smaller than the listed measurements, I didn't notice anything where you could pull it tighter? there's a decorative ribbon on the waist band and then two ribbons on the inside that I think are for hanging it up, so.

>>8266267
aaand for good measure here's it standing up on its own

when I opened the package I was actually pretty surprised at how poofy it is.

>>8266234
aah bummer. well, do i need to contact them? or will they get back to me in time?

>>8265341
supply and demand isn't charity, anon. it's the market. if you want to sell a dress for $500 and you try for several months with no bites, you're going to lower your price.

>>8266267
What are your measurements, anon? It doesn't look as poofy as I'd hoped on a bigger size.

>>8266296
it definitely feels poofy? like i said i imagine it might look poofier on someone with smaller measurements than me. it also came right out of the bag, maybe it needed some time to inflate? but i'm 90 cm. it can go a lot bigger but i don't think i would push it past my own measurements just bc of the issue where it won't look as poofy.

maybe i just like it because i expected it to not fit in the first place, idk. i think if you're looking for something quickly though it isn't that bad of a buy? but if you want like, ultimate poof maybe elsewhere might be better. (i myself am really interested in getting one of those petticoats from bunny house but saw this while grabbing some accessories off of CC and figured it wouldn't hurt to try)

>>8265184
That sounds fantastic! Honestly I don't even care if he would pass or not just as long as he genuinely like the fashion. The guy I'm talking to right now (you know that stage before you're ready to call it a relationship) cross dresses but I don't think he has any interest in Lolita. He normally is way more trendy then I am but I dress like someone's grandma half the time.

>>8266296
>>8266316
It's a good petti for more casual outfits.
If you guys want something that poofs more at a larger waist measurement, I would consider Dear Celine's cupcake petti. (I'm around 84cm and it's con-level poof under most dresses.)

>>8264910
I have the cream one in my closet, pic is mine.
The colour is fairly close to a light butter 'cream', it is not even close to ivory. The lace is an ivory offwhite.

You can see how different it is from the pure white blouse behind it.

Opinions on the Imai Kira collab dress? Pics are starting to come out and it looks pretty cute compared to stock photo.

>>8266267
Ohh that was me anon! (I think, i did ask about CC's pettis lol) . Thanks for the review and pics! My dress came in yesterday and it's actually alot longer than I realised it was (below my knees) So I gotta find a longer petti :(

>>8266489
it's just as boring as expected.

>>8266457
Thank you for the picture, this is really helpful

>>8265036
Ugh, same. Sometimes I wish that designers would adapt Chanel's advice to look at a design and take one thing off.

>>8266489
is that the cat's tea party one? Sorry for my ignorance, I'm not really up on these things. Meh though, I was really hoping it would feature artwork more like pic related and be less sugary. That's my taste though I guess.

>>8266491
hmm, if you want a longer petti then idk about this one, it's about average length (18 inches which seems typical to me? hits me at my knees). if you have the time to wait, bunny house's pettis at customizable in volume and length. you might also want to check out malco modes or some rockabilly-type pettis? those tend to be a bit longer it seems. (pretty sure I've seen posts on here/elsewhere talking about the type to get cause I know some are better than others)

>>8266412
i'll have to check that one out, i've heard a lot about it! this year i've been wanting to invest a lot more money into multiple pettis because tbh i don't think you can have too many.

Kek

>>8266599
but why

>>8266599
WTF

>>8265515
This. Would be great.

>>8266540
Thanks for the suggestions! I would like them quickly. I was considering Classical Puppet's longer A line, but I'll check out the others. Just the problem of shipping D;

>>8266599
kek this thread is brilliant.

Could anyone confirm if old school AP logos once looked like this (early but not so far back that they were just called 'pretty')?

>>8266667
I was eyeing the same jsk,anon but the way the tag is tacked on looks suspicious to me honestly

>>8266599

the comments on this just get better and better.lol

>>8266667
That's how they used to look! Id imagine it's from 2000~2003

>>8266267
what's the name of your jsk anon? It's so cute.

>>8266667
Looks like this one, but it looks pretty sketchy with the bad label stitching.

>>8266719
This. You can sort of see where it's been unstitched and there are scars.

>>8266667
Here's another old label

>>8266726
Not anon asking about the tag but do you know what year(s) those tags are from?

>>8266728
2002-2003 I just did a search in the EGL comm site.

>>8266732
Thank you very much! I'll go take a look now

>>8266718
it's metamorphose's new pink lemonade print! isn't it? when i saw the reservation go up i just needed it, haha

Can anyone identify this? It's not on Lolilibrary and I want to know if it's legit, it's a beautifully made AP cape - it seems too well made to be a fake but the fact I can't find it online...

>>8266792

>>8266667
I've never seen a label hand-stitched like that on any of their pieces. Jesus, that's sloppy.

>>8266292
if only, anon. I've been eyeing a specific skirt set for nearly two years now. I haven't bought it because it isn't even worth half of what they've listed it at.

>>8266792
It's not THAT well made. I've seen better offbrand capes. But I've definitely seen this AP cape before.

>>8266806
Ah sweet thank you!

>>8266599
You already posted this in 2 other threads. Yes its a shitty purse. Stop spamming all of cgl with it and keep it in the cringe thread where it belongs.

IW lucky packs sold out. Didn't get lucky....

>>8266863
Saw them, cried because no money, cried more cuz sold out. Every single time LP's come out, dammit...

>>8266863
I feel for you, anon. At least there's always next time?

>>8266869
Don't they have lucky packs during may or so? I was tempted to get the IW ones but I saw the previous ones and they aren't really my type :(

>>8266882
I'm actually unsure about when they release LP's ahaha

Have any of you bought lucky packs before? What brand, and were you happy with everything?

I want to but I'm afraid I'd get stuff I'm not interested in. I'm a student so I don't have a ton of money to blow.

>>8266862
>You

Because there aren't multiple people posting on this board.

>>8266899
Same here anon. I really wanted to get IW's but when I googled past IW lucky bags.. it wasn't all that exciting :( I might aim for btssb lucky pack

>>8266901
They all had the name censored the same way and were posted within a few minutes of each other. Don't worry, the janitors will be able to tell it's just you when they trace the IP of the posts and then ban you for spamming the board with vendetta posting.

>>8266899
buy it from a brand that you know you will be interested in. if you don't like sweet or AP, no use in buying an LP from them. a lot of LP's that come out aren't blind packs - I don't think AP has done blind packs for a while, instead they just come out with a few different packs (usually something like a simple dress, a special print made for the LP's, and a special set of a popular print) of varying price points. metamorphose's LP's are either special prints or somewhat blind - for the holidays this past year they had a print called swan garden for the packs, and then the rest were pretty much blind packs though they showed you examples of prints and colors you could get. most of the time the stuff in the pack matched too, so you would get at least a blouse and a skirt that would go together. some LP's are also just old stock.

there's so many varying types honestly I think it just depends on what you're looking for. if you're just looking to put more pieces in your wardrobe, blind LP's would suit you just fine, but if you want an actual coord you can wear you'll want to get a happy pack, so some of the stuff AP does or just any brand with specific items made for the LP.

anyways, I've bought 2 winter LP's from meta. first year I got a fully shirred skirt of some leftover fabric from their sweet poker series, a blouse that surprisingly fit me, and some accessories that weren't a good match but looked okay and some socks I could find use for in my wardrobe. for the most part it all went together nicely. this past year again most of it went together nicely, and I think I got a leftover skirt. blouse didn't fit but I was able to sell it for $50. likewise I've seen people selling the skirt for $50-60, and the LP itself was less than 100 due to the yen/dollar conversion rate being nice. so even though I couldn't wear the blouse I got a skirt I liked, some socks and accessories, and made 50 bucks back on it. both LP's also came with a cute tote bag.

>>8266863
How do you even know when they're coming out?? Do they post the release date in advance somewhere?

>>8265392
The lace isn't a cold or pure white, only slightly paler cream so it doesn't really look bad. You hardly notice it because it looks balanced and the lace is a delicate kind, rather than chunky torchon or something. At any rate it doesn't bother me (blouse owner).

It's coming out this week! With AP's current trend of making MTOs, what are the chances of this getting one as well?

>>8266919
Not sure if troll or autist. Don't quit your day job sherlock.

>>8267195
low. they dont do straight MTOs in a row, but the strawberry and daisy prints are an exception.

>>8267195
I'm not fond of the colourways. It'll probably get scalped and I could probably make money off it, but given the only thing I'm loving are the cats, I'll probably skip out myself.

>>8267195
Was this the one that had ugly satin bows on it in the fashion show? Super glad they're gone, that was the main complaint.

>>8267195
hngghh look at them cats

>>8266215
>wearing your shoes into your room

>>8267254
Marine Kingdom had them too. It looks like the satin bow versions were fashion show exclusives and won't actually be sold, which is a shame because the sleeves on the Marine Kingdom OP had clear iridescent beads that looked like bubbles sewn on and they were cute as fuck.

>uh

Has anyone else seen this? It's apparently a new print from AP. I think it looks fug as fuck.

>>8267426
I want to see the not-fashion-show version of it.
I like the print itself but I want to know how they'll use it.

A friend of mine recently told me she wanted to start getting into lolita so I gently guided her to Bodyline since shes a poorfag and she instantly saw the wa-lolita stuff and said she thought it was super cute.
I don't want to push her away from lolita but also I don't want to let her look like a joke. Anyone have god-tier wa-lolita inspo that isn't from that one thread on daily-lolita years ago?

>>8267442
just have more of a conversation with her about bodyline/lolita in general and show her the good bodyline thread

>>8267442
Just help her with a taobao order

>>8267447
>>8267448

I certainly will! Still curious if anyone has any not garbage wa-lolita in case she cares not to listen. She can be a bit of a weeb at times and thinks she knows best. If I can at least show her there isnt terrible wa-lolita out there I feel like I can save her.

>>8267464
The hmhm one

It's the only non-cringe kind of wa-lolita
You should be honest with her and let her know the exact reaction she'l get and why if she actually buys wa lolita with the sleeves and shit.
She will be a giant ita.
Your friend has no taste.

At least pic related is cute and keeps it subtle
get her to pair it with a beret because the headbow is sold out and that colour is difficult to find.

>>8267411
oh lord

>>8267475
Shit.
This is helpful though, I'll just be blunt with her.

This is cute, thank you!

>>8267195
I've given up on it. I collect cat prints but I don't like the colorways enough to fight to the death for it, just going to wait until the hype dies down.

>>8267195
On the bottom right hand corner, the way the cats tail sits makes it look like it's got a huge booty.


I gotta draw that

>>8266599
I screenshot this yesterday, glad someone posted it already.

>>8266316
>>8266412
I'm wondering because I'm looking for crazy poof but I'm also a fatty. Going to look into the dear celine one then, thank you!

>>8267507
Can your friend actually dress herself normally and actually look put together?
I find a lot of the people who don't, have no style in lolita either or they go with something close to the set photos.

There are people who don't have an ita-phase

>>8267411
That is the tackiest name I've ever heard.
I get that it's related to the fashion, but "Closet of Frills", "Lacebook", frills this, lace that, I'm over it.

I actually don't think this is a bad idea, but most people think that having someone leave a mean comment about you on 4chan is "Cyber Bullying", which is bull.

>>8267195

I don't even like this print but I feel the urge to buy every low-waisted dress AP puts out (they fit me better). Oh dear.

>>8266249
Just hold everything up. It's not that hard.

Is EGL Feedback dead?
It looks like they made the last feedback pages on January 29th?

>>8267195
It's not a 'trend', there's been a storm of Chinese girls sending customer emails to AP requesting made to orders. It happened for Celestial, Melty Berry, Cherry Margeurite, and Dream Marine. Dolly Cat however does not seem to be so popular on weibo, so MTO is not likely.

>if only we knew we could do this during Misty Sky/Holy Lantern

>>8267195
I wish this had bunnies instead of cats

>>8267195
The giant butt cat cannot be unseen.

>>8267877

How can I contact LM mods? I got unjustified negative feedback and want to appeal that.

>>8267411
Drama never ends. There's going to be drama in lolita until the end of time.

This inspires me to start more drama.

>>8267411
On one hand, I think it's great that she's using her popularity to spread some positivity. But on the other hand, I don't like this idea at all lol.

>>8267926
realest seagull right here

>>8266215
Sewing it up carefully should be fine. Sew it by hand with tiny stitches though, in my experience it's really difficult to machine sew an already-assembled petti.

>>8267426
I actually think that dress is okay and looks good, think it's some waloli thing for spring. It just doesn't look good on this model?

>>8267195
Why can't there be a simple. cute, dark-colored cat print?

There was that one on taobao with the russian blues and british shorthairs on it, but the details on the top ruined it for me, and I look bad in skirts.

>>8267475
yo, what dress is that? It's mad cute.

>>8267411
She's such a stupid cunt.

>>8267442
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.vb29pS&id=43840486976&ns=1&abbucket=7#detail have more, sec

>>8267195
I love that low waisted cut but don'T like the print at all. I really hope the make some more low waisted cuts in the future.
Pretty sure that print will sell out within minutes tho.

>>8267959
>waloli

All of my what. Anon, no, it's not waloli at all hahaha. Maybe it's just the pic that makes the sleeves look different to you, but I assure you, it's more of a classic cut.

>>8267833
Melty Berry and Cherry Margeurite are getting rereleases not made to order releases if I'm not mistaken. MTO would be great but I just can't see it happen.
I'm totally with on a Misty Sky MTO, sad story it will never happen.

>>8267997
I like it when it mixes. Though I think most of the stuff I've seen is more qiloli, but eh.. If anon's friend is into the oriental thing lol.

http://2.taobao.com/item.htm?id=44970196837&spm=a230r.1.14.33.idLI4v&ns=1&abbucket=7#detail

>>8267442
..well this fanplusfriend one is okay. Honestly though you gotta give your friend a little chat. Waloli is super hard to pull off for newcomers and just advise her that it's easier to do it right after you really get a feel of classic first. If you just dive into lolita wearing waloli many chances are you're not gonna do it right. That's the most honest explanation I can give to your friend for you though it sounds a little snobby it's just being honest.

>>8267533
It's a fashion, people are going to judge. You can ignore it, take the it with a grain of salt and try to grow, or you can just feel bad about it. Honestly, I think it's just gonna turn into a big circlejerk.

>>8267526
Bunny House you can custom everything (waist, lenght, level of poof, color) so it's the perfect petti for big girls. I really like mine, and 2 big girls in my comm ordered them and they got all the custom mesurements right. Their most poofy one is extraordinary. Dear Celine is just ok.

>>8267507
If she insists on doing wa, F+F's wa less cringe-worthy than Bodyline's. Or you could redirect her towards some cute Taobao Qi lolita which is easier to pull off. http://shop34239846.taobao.com/

>>8267195
It's like Cats Tea Party lite, I'm sure it'll sell out.

>>8267411
Bad idea, people using it will become targets.

>>8267464
I've seen some using modified actual kimono, but that's all.

>>8267514
Yeah, I only like the pink OP, I think the other cuts and colourway are pretty fug

>>8268245
There's like 2
and they obviously knew a lot about kimono and how to tie them properly

>>8268019
This is hideous.

>>8267195

The illustrations of the cats are nowhere on the level of the cat's tea party ones, way too cartoon like for my tastes. The colors are super bright too.

I dunno, it's just not as classy or cute.

>>8268008
Melty Berry and Cherry Margeurite are getting an MTO rerelease according to the webshop banner.

>>8264785
WELP turns out my dress wasn't really 14 pounds
>We were informed by our warehouse staff that they mistakenly registered package weight as 6740g, while actual weight is 680g.
phew. More money for 6" plastic crap.

>>8268239
It's more like Vanilla-chan.

>>8268284
Well I'm excited. I want a berry dress and I love both of those.

On a somewhat related note, have the people who did the celestial MTO received anything yet?

>>8268435
Damn, they sure fucked up. How much did you wind up paying for shipping?

>>8265741
But why are you and her together ?

>>8266804
wait, someone has been trying to sell the same set for that long without changing prices?

man. countries really need to add basic economic classes to the curricula in schools

>>8268445
FUCKING NO AND IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS

>>8267387
yeah i loved the sleeve detailing on Marine Kingdom OP in the fashion show, i really wish they would have kept that for the release

>>8268486
AP SF said they'd have it ready for pickup by the end of this week.

>>8267426
i'm not sure about the pink/red/purple combination, it reminds me of those Red Hat/Purple Dress ladies. pic related

i'd be into it if it came in different color ways, though

>>8267475
i definitely prefer wa-lolita when it's just a jsk using a kimono print. for some reason, kimono sleeves + lolita-sized puffy skirt just looks so off to me.

i like some of Meta's kimono print JSKs too, and you can usually find them on the eastern secondhand market for okay prices

>>8267516
do it, anon

>>8267833
ah, my favorite cgl poster is back. what's the current dirt and gossip in china, you nationalistic neet cunt?

>>8267994
>http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.vb29pS&id=43840486976&ns=1&abbucket=7#detail have more, sec

wow, i actually really love this? is that insane?

do any gulls have any pieces by milu forest and if so, what are your opinions on their construction?

>>8267996
i totally agree about the low-waist cut of the dress, anon.

honestly, if AP could make a floral or non-printed low waist dress or if they'd use the upside-down pentacle ribbon detailing again on a dress that wasn't Milky Cross, i'd be one happy camper

>>8268080
So you think Qi is easier to pull of than Wa? I've avoided both since they seem pretty weeb-y and since I've rarely ever seen either coorded well, but I'm starting to really fall for Qi cut dresses.

What's cgl's opinion of Qi, anyways? As weeb-y and cringeworthy as Wa? Better, worse?

>>8267411
She just wants to grow more popular.

>>8268512
Six whole months though? Shit. Not sure if I even wanna do a MTO for MBM or CM, then. Not if I don't get it until September or October. Ugh.

>>8267464
I'm still a total sucker for this one.

>>8268562
Qi lolita is super popular in china (duh). Not sure how "weeby" can be applied to qi loli since weebs = ppl obsessed with wapanese stuff. It's just a high-collar dress with oriental print, nothing too different from other dress styles.

>>8268562

I personally think the silhouette of a qipao is easier to mesh with lolita than a kimono (in the same way a hanfu doesn't really work with qi, the kimono is often too flowy and not form fitting enough, particularly at the bodice, to incorporate into a good lolita silhouette).

I'm personally really partial to Qi lolita. They have some great examples on the Chinese forums. I'd recommend getting an indie taobao brand over F+F - if your friend knows what to look for, they have much more flattering designs than F+F hit and miss designing.

I'm honestly a bit curious to know how qi lolita is viewed over there. NNC care to give us the low-down?

>>8268869
qi pao /cheongsam is a fashion inspired by western form fitting clothing merged with some components of asian aesthetic. It emerged in the early 1900's, when a lot of western influence began spreading within China. So technically, yes, it suits the silhoulette because it was originally meant to emulate western style clothing in the first place.
Traditional chinese wear before then is hanfu, as mentioned.

>>8267877
My anaconda don't-

>>8268734
It wasn't six months. More like 4. I think I paid for mine in mid December.

>>8268937

Uhh, the qipao was originally cultural Manchurian clothing before they invaded China and spread their culture to the Chinese. The qipao was then westernised during the 1900s to fit the western silhouette better.

Before the qipao, they wore hanfu. But for a good 500 years, they were wearing qipao before the westerners came because of manchurian influence.

Pic related. Traditional qipao

I only ever see the hanfu in a soap opera or revival-esque context. I'm glad it's making a comeback though.

>>8268984
Ah, okay. I didn't order it, obviously, but someone else said 6 months so I just assumed. My bad. I guess that's not too long, but it's a little longer than most people wanna wait.

Sorry for being a newfag. I like this dress but why are these dresses so damn expensive? $500 for a dress? How do Lolitas afford their wardrobes?

>>8269005

>>8269005

Idk man how the fuck do you afford stuff. Here are some of the ways let me hold your fucking hand and shove that spoon in your cute widdle mouth

>getting a job
>saving up
>selling stuff you make for extra moniez
>getting money from mommy and daddy
>or a sugar daddy

Is this clear enough or do I have to do toddler speak for you?

>>8269005
If it is bait, I'm taking it. Lolita is a niche fashion, so prices of brand items are very high. It's not like buying a Chanel or a Dior product--those are household names and well ridiculously high volumes of goods. Lolita brands are different. They're popular and sell all over the world but to a very select market. And that's why brand is expensive.

>>8269019
Also it should probably be added that most brand new dresses aren't $500 and more around $200 to $300. This one is just the expensive kind.

>>8269005
Which print is this? I'd reverse image search but I'm on mobile. This would be going straight on the dream dress list if it wasn't for that Bob.

>>8268993
Nope. That's tangzhuan (worn during ming dynasty up til 1911's), which evolved into qipao. The qipao which inspired qi lolita didn't come into existence until 1920's.

>>8269034
Bib even

>>8268844
God I too love this so much. It's so graceful and clean looking compared to the hot messes around when it comes to Wa-Lolita

>>8269023
It also happens to be the one i like the most. Oh well sucks but I'm definitely not spending 500 on a dress.

>>8269023
Ah yeah, I neglected to mention that. Thanks, anon!

>>8269034
It's Belle Époque rose

>>8269041
Hey, don't stress. Secondhand brand is a lot more affordable, typically, especially via mbok or y!j auctions. You'll find a beautiful dress some day.

>>8268869
>They have some great examples on the Chinese forums.

ugh, i'm going to sound like such a newfag but what are the good chinese forums? weeibo?

>>8265382
ya theyre closing. got it from firsthand source but theyre tryna play it off like its not a big deal

>>8265382
I can't imagine them permanently closing. Hopefully just moving to another location.

>>8267180
As far as I know, they didn't mention it in advance anywhere. I don't remember seeing it in the newsletter for the past week, or on the designer's blog. Maybe they might have mentioned it in the VIP only area but other than that...

>>8267900
Facebook message or the Report Issues button at the top of the site.

>>8267980
Me and you both, sister

>>8268562
Personally like it much better because I like the detailing and motifs better and the shape lends itself better to lolita than wa does. I've done a qi coord using a brand dress but I don't have a decent photo of it unfortunately.

Hey, remember that cat silhouette dress that Krad designed maybe 50 million years ago?

They're releasing it under their sister brand Citanul.

I think May 2nd? Can't be sure because I can't read Chinese.

>>8269325
I don't even want to get excited for anything Krad. After how disappointed I was with the nautical print's dress, I don't know if I can trust them ever again. (plus their new prices holy shit)

>>8266220
Me.
I usually use buyee but there was a seller that blocked foreign buyers and well known shopping services so I went with Japan Shopping Service. They open up a Y!J account for you which you can log into and bid from. They handle buyer-seller communication.

>>8267877
Lel. Someone make a Kim kardashian version of this

>>8269359
What was wrong with the nautical print dress?

>>8269396
It's ugly as fuck. The cut and bodice is just terrible. It had so much potential too.

>>8268435
Thank goodness. It just didn't make sense.

>>8267507
Please do let us know how that conversation goes. I'm curious to hear how this all turns out. I also second pushing the qilolita dresses if she really, really wants an obvious "asian flare."

>>8268009
I actually really like this one--anyone bought from this shop before?

Hey, cgl, where should I go for non-print dresses with pretty details and good construction?
I know VM, MM and IW but I am a poorfag who can only shop brand if second hand. I may be too newbie to tell, but I find it quite difficult to find fairly new, non-print, second hand stuff.
So, taobao shops (keep good construction in mind) and, I don't know, terms for japanese auction searches (?) would be very much appreciated.

>>8269513
I was hoping for jsks and ops for under 200usd. Is that even possible? Am I delusional?

>>8268978
-want none unless you got buns hun

>>8269515
I buy mostly non print stuff, I've gotten IW jsks for 2000-5000 yen. You need to keep an eye out.

Also, buy slightly damaged stuff and patch it up. You can get it cheaper and it doesn't take too much to fix most of the time.

Most I've spent on an IW dress was ~86 USD for a print dress before shipping.

>>8269515

You might not find stuff that's your style right now, but I promise you, pretty non print jsks come very cheap, lucky for us non print lovers.

I check all the secondhand sites on the days they release stuff - closet child, maiden clothing, usagiyouhinten, fururun, etc. and auctions. You just have to be very patient and very vigilent.

For taobao shops - a lot of them do non print stuff, but most have reservations so you have to watch for the time period of reservation closely. Check out the google doc on the thread - there's honestly too many for me to list here. What comes to mind for me though is surface spell, yolanda, and akane&alois.

Hope that helps.

>>8269531

>I've gotten IW jsks for 2000-5000 yen

Nice!

Do you mind me asking what it was?

Cheapest item I've gotten was this jsk for 3000 yen.

>>8269531
>>8269536
That was very helpful and I'm a lot more confident in my quest now. Thank you!

I was just wondering if >>8269531 stalks auctions? Do you use any specific terms or just go through everything listed under a brand name?
Also, >>8269536, what do you use to keep up with secondhand sites updates? An app?

Sorry if I dumped too many questions on you. Thanks again for what you answered already!

>>8269561
Victorian Maiden for 3000yen? All my jellies. Lucky you, anon!

>>8269561
A brown chiffon JSK with cream lace, and a collared OP. Sorry, don't know the names off the top of my head for non print stuff.

>>8269564
I mostly stalk auctions unless I'm looking for a specific piece. I just sort price low to high and see if there's anything new I like! I've gotten good deals on the bst post here too.

>>8267994
I was looking at this too. I am very cautious about Qi lolita though, but it does look beautiful.

>>8269325
>>8269417
pics of the dress?

>>8269515
Yes possible. In fact, a new AP sugar dream dome skirt in pink sold for 9,000yen A few days ago

>>8265966
Oh my god! This happened to me too anon! Somehow they screwed up my address and my package never made it anywhere near my house and got sent back to Japan.
Like >>8266044 said, they gave me a full refund

>>8269561
>tfw dream sailor dress
I-I guess I can enjoy your great deal vicariously, anon

>>8268993
Speaking of traditional clothing, do you know where to get nice-quality hanfu? I want to start doing Chinese stuff in the SCA, and fuck sewing that shit.

Does anyone know if any brand *other* than Innocent World produces shoes in a color that matches their milktea shade? Do antaina or Secret Shop make shoes in that shade? It's such a weird deep beige I'm not sure where to look.

>>8269098
weibo isn't a message board, it's like chinese twitter. i think they mean uhhhh lorp i think is what it's called???? not 100% sure

Could I please have some ideas as to how to coordinate this skirt?
I just got it and realized the pink is WAY different to anything I have.
Please and thank you!

>>8270468
If you have to match it with anything, do it with the reds and greens through accessories and small details. Otherwise, just wear it with a white blouse, brown shoes, a simple hair accessory and call it a day.

>>8269103
Wow. I was in there last week, asked them when they'd be getting a new shipment in. Wasn't trying to be insensitive but that sounds awful in light of this news.

so I'm looking for shoes on antaina and I found these pair that I like, my only issue is that the heel is black instead of pink? Whats up with that? Like, some of the other colours have the right colour heel. Is there a chance that it's a mistake or a prototype in the photo? Am I being too picky? Should I just deal with it? Very confused, pls help.

>>8268445
>>8268486

Mine shipped to Tenso last week, I was actually waiting on some other packages to arrive at Tenso before I consolidate and ship it all together, or I'd have mine by now.

>>8270588
Lots of shoes have black heels. In a coord, it won't be noticeable, but if you really do care, email Aintaina, since they can customize shoes.

>>8270594
Ok cool, that sounds like a good idea! Thanks!

>>8265926
just get a huge hat, stick a a huge ass feather in it, and call it macaroni.

ok, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I'll give it a go.
my SO's boss decided he wants to relocate us from my country (a small place, not too many lolitas, around 30 girls in the active community) to the u.s. in a year, and will probably place us in SF. now, I'm not a newbie lolita, I own a couple of brand items, but I mostly own handmade items (that I made for myself) and a few bodyline stuff (the better stuff... unicorn, macaroon etc.) and one or two replicas I made with oo jia fabrics.
question is - should I try to join the SF local comm. I mean, since it's the area where the brand stores are located in the u.s. - is it all about owning brand? will they frown upon my handmades and bodyline?

besides that - what can you tell me about the SF lolis?

What's the most rare/expensive lolita item out there? My husband was asking when he saw the price new brand dresses go for and I said Iron Gate for around $950. He was unimpressed because he's in MtG where pieces of fucking cardboard are worth up to $30K.

>>8270642
SF is super friendly and nice, but one of the cons is that people already tend to be close and tight-knit, so it can be hard to break into friend groups. In terms of owning brand, lots of girls do, but it's not really seen as a big deal and indie/handmade is just as acceptable. In terms of how well we dress, well, it tends to range from very well to pretty terrible. But I'd take our couple of mediocre dressers over a drama comm any day.

>>8270606
>call it macaroni
Nope. Macaronis were actually a legit subculture of flamboyant and ridiculous well-off men.

>>8265926
Get a bergere hat base and add ribbon and flower. I keep meaning to do this but always forget. You could also look at gainsborough hats,

>>8270699

Woosh.

>>8270674
elizabeth bride of death went for $1.8k and so did cat's tea party a few weeks ago

a few of btssb's fancier dresses would top that, i'm not too familiar with them though

>>8270468
I have the dress, I mostly use beige and red.

>>8269417
Isn't it the same cut as most of their dresses?

>>8270674
No one needs a black lotus though because it can only be played in an unpopular format. Unlike a bunch of cats or iron gates on a dress that a lot of lolitas get excited about.

>>8270820
I've never gotten a krad dress, the only other one I've been interested in was the jelly fish one and I only liked the OP.

>>8270699
You do realize that's a kids song, right?

>>8271445
And so is Ring Around the Rosey but it's still based on the fucking black plague.

>>8267426
AP, go home you are drunk. I love a lot the Dolly Cat and the Marine Kingdom series but this... no what the fuck, it looks like grandma bedroom cover.

A family member surprise bought this dress for me .I havent even ever seen it before. Does anybody know ANYTHING about this dress? .

>>8271553
That's a milanoo dress, your family member spent a lot of money for shit. It'll be made of shitty thin material that wrinkles easily if it's even anything like the image.

>>8271553
thats the dress you can find by looking up lolita dress on aliexpress i think. the most typical thing every ita has. its not even a brand or a replica or anything. just a lone mysterious dress thats easy to buy.
review the quality for us bby

>>8271553
Actually I think it's an old design from the Rakuten shop "And Romeo." They remind me a lot of Anna House.

Price check thread vanished, so I'm just going to ask here.

What's a good price to start an auction for a lavender Marine Kingdom OP at? I'm not really sure what to price it at but I'd at least want to make back $240, which is what I paid for it new from AP.

Also, what should I expect to pay for the Mercator Antique Shop regular waist JSK or OP in lavender or black?

>>8271553
>>8271580
Those two are replicas of a non-print dress Angelic Pretty released in 2005.

Has anyone bought from this taobao store, Aiyou? http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.5-c.w4002-8154204992.48.YtwgDR&id=44854333480 I'm not sure if their stuff is original or just replicas or what. And the quality seems like it might be a little questionable. But they might just have bad photos.

>>8271625
They're all originals.

>>8271636
Thank you!

>>8271625
I'm also curious about their quality.

>>8267426
Dat file name

>>8267426
It reminds me of 3F.

>>8270642

On this subject, I'm about to be relocated to Seattle. Anything I should know about the groups there?

>>8271601
I've see Marine Kingdom being sold at around $350-400. Prices have been increasing the last couple weeks.

Newbie here, can anyone tell me what brand coats are like? I've been looking for a second hand one for a while now and they all look pretty thin. Are there many taobao sellers that have good quality sweet/classic coats that are suitable for cold windy climates? (but not snowing)

>>8271824

I own a deep red wool Fan+Friend coat with detatchable fur trims. I love the thing, but the red lining color transfers a little onto light clothes. I wore it several times in Canadian and London winters and was cozy warm. It also has deep pockets.

>>8268844
Looks a lot like hanbok to me.

>>8271895
I have a red F+F one too, no colour transfer because the lining is grey brushed cotton check or something. They sent me the wrong colour coat the first time though and I had to return it for a replacement

>>8268978
I wasn't going to say it, but I'm glad you did.

>>8269561
Not that anon, but I got pic related for 2900 yen.

>>8270588
What you're expecting anon is called a 'wrapped heel'. Some designs have it, some don't. Any wrapped heel is going to look like that beneath anyway (presuming the sole is black).

>>8267411
Apparently it's started.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msgEwphRqKI

People were tearing into her quite a bit in the last YouTube thread, I wonder if she lurks.

>>8270823
Hey! If I had one I'd put it in my cube in a heart beat.
That's kind of popular, more popular than vintage that's for damn sure. Black lotus is more for like, "hey look at me, I have one of the power nine, aren't I a cool guy?".

>>8272255
>I don't even care about what /cgl/ and BTB say!!!
>endless rambling, detailed butthurt

I don't know much about this girl. Is she always this obnoxious? This was super incoherent.

>>8270674
Princess Cornelia went for 6k.

>>8272321
This is basically how everyone addresses being posted.
> I don't care about this AT ALL!
> I'll go into great detail about what people say at me and get really worked up. But I don't care!
>Look at how much I don't care!
Because of course she cares.

>>8272321
>>8272369
when you dig so hard to get efamous, getting so upset at the inevitable gossip about you is so unsightly.

>>8271824
I have two BtSSB coats and a Bodyline one, and actually they're all pretty good. The BtSSB ones are thicker and warmer than the Bodyline one, but the Bodyline one is still surprisingly decent. They all work well for winter where I live (southeast USA).

>>8271739
Seattle is pretty drama-free, I'm sure it isn't perfect but it's pretty good by big city comm standards

>>8272255
Watched one minute and I was bored. The audio quality's pretty shit. Seriously, though, does she really have 11 minutes worth of things to talk about? I feel a more effective antibullying message could've been made in three or four.

We're in autosage.

New thread:
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>>8269325
Looks like it can be previewed at their tea party May 2nd. As for when it will actually be released, who knows.

>>8271553
I'll pray for you, anon.

>>8272255
God Newfies have the most atrocious accents