/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8233648

Mori kei?

>>8233657
Some people call it dark mori. That's kind of a shitty term though since mori is all about light colours.

This is how I dress outside of lolita but I don't have any photos since it's just normal clothes for me.

>>8233657
Strega is pretty much interchangeable with "dark mori" except that the name is meant to disentangle it from "j-fashion" and take it back to a western/Euro origin courtesy of girls on tumblr who didn't want to follow "rules" (j-fashions always have rules).

Is there some kinda strega primer? I follow a girl on Tumblr who takes part in it but I'm still here like someone's middle aged mum going 'I don't understand'.

Huh.. I wear clothing similar to this, but I always just called it goth. Didn't know it had another name

I personally hope it becomes a thing. It's own separate thing so it can stopped being called mori girl. 90% of it would not be considered mori if it wasn't for tumblr.

I also dress this way and didn't know it was a thing. I guess it'd be cool if it was a thing.

>>8233648
What's the fucking point of /fa/ if you can't talk about all fashions??? (moot fucked up there)
And i personally thing lolita/ and any other j-fashion weeaboo fashion should be discussed on /fa/.


>inb4 hur hur /cgl/=cosplay/ gothic lolita.

>>8233706
People just call it mori because they both have that baggy/layered look.

>>8233713
Technically.
I would agree with you, but the culture of /fa/ makes it impossible to discuss fashion outside of whatever their current trends are.
/fa/ is pretty much male fashion now, and since /cgl/ is the designated "girl board," all female things end up here even if they'd fit on /fa/ better.

>>8233714
But beside the diffferent color palette isn't it exactly the same thing? Like classic and gothic lolita?

This is probably the closest thing to goth I'll ever get on 4chan. Went to /fa to look for one but it was goth high fashion...they're all so snooty about it.

>has no goth friends to share outfits with qq

>>8233754
you sound like a mallgoth

>>8233754
I've never seen a goth outside of this sort of style/aristo/lolita who didn't look like a mess.

Corsets as tops look fucking stupid.

>>8233749
You know a mori-chan wouldn't tell you that.

>>8233768
I've seen my fair share of babybats but everyone starts somewhere so it doesn't bother me too much. I grew out of it and so will they.

I agree with you on that, corsets are not my thing and feel really impractical for...any occasion, really.

>>8233749
I disagree, but I am struggling to explain why. I guess the best thing to say is the "feel" is differeny. But then again, that is what people who wear otome kei tell lolitas. Maybe it's the fabric. From what I have seen of both, mori girl tends to use ligher fabrics to make layering easier. While strega uses a lot heavier fabrics in darker colors. When I see "dark mori girl" it still has the lighter fabrics and the fabric flows/moves more than that is typically used in strega

>>8233713
There is an occasional thread for "weebtrash" fashion, but its never anything more than shirts or boxers with animu plastered all over it.

>>8233779
Maybe it's just my experience, but when they do "grow up" it seems to go in one of two directions
1. IMMA VAMPIRE shit gun live the vamp lifestyle
2. Normal but still cringey in their own way, usually about 'victorian'/steampunk esque stuff with a goth flare. Their power levels are the equivalent of that kid who thinks Death note is the most well written anime ever.

>>8233812
And neither tend to dress well. Either go super costumey or frumpy.

Where's all the classy Victorian Maiden esque business suits and blazers.
so many god damn corsets and shitty lace and bad designs

>>8233812
No no, you're right, it does go that way frequently. But, as tumblr as it sounds, I like that people have their own flare to put on goth (when it isn't cringey ofc) but it is true that just because you like to wear it, it doesn't mean it looks good or flattering on you. It also needs to be shown that other than a staple feature of the color black, there aren't really rules to goth. Its your style, make it what you want it to be. People hopefully find their happy medium before age 20....hopefully.

It doesn't exist. shortcuttothestars just made up her own ~special snowflake~ name for dark mori and tumblr rolled with it because she's mildly efamous.

>>8233749
>>8233790

The point of mori is to look like a "Scandinavian forest girl" as filtered through a Japanese conception of what that is (so there is a slight fantasy element to it). Handmade, knits, natural fibers, wool, generally light colors that remind you of snow, some storybook and woodland creature elements. Very rarely you see dark mori coming out of Japan but that doesn't sync with the faux-scandinavian part so it's uncommon. (Supposedly there are "mountain" and "swamp" substyles of mori but they didn't catch on like the "forest" style did so you never really see them.)

The point of strega is to look like a witch, and most of the people actively participating in the fashion (at least on tumblr) are American or European, so there is still some romanticizing/fantasizing going on but it's a little bit more practical. You still have a lot of layering and knitwear, and a darker color scheme. So the two styles can overlap (witches can live in the forest too) but the source is different.

>>8233872
Arguably she is one of a couple sources for it, and I understand that's kind of a dodgy start for a fashion, but there are enough people doing it now that it definitely exists. I know there are at least two girls that "started" strega on tumblr because I remember seeing them post passive-aggressively about each other because they both wanted credit for the term, but I don't remember the other girl's name.

It looks like some of the loose/wool/frayed layered boho hippy cybergothy shit that is all over Camden Market

>>8233876
>Supposedly there are "mountain" and "swamp" substyles of mori but they didn't catch on like the "forest" style did so you never really see them.
"Mountain" is yama girl, which has almost no relation to mori fashion and is an outdoors lifestyle hobby sort of thing. "Swamp" is numa girl, an inside joke with Japanese mori girls who didn't feel "pure" enough for the style based on on the mori girl checklist. They'd talk about dirty things in their community but dressed pretty much identical to any other mori girl.

Use of darker colors in mori does (did; the fashion in itself is basically dead) happen in Japan, but mori doesn't really have substyles the way people expect it to so you'd never see it called anything specific. I don't mind strega being separate because most of it looks ugly to me and is, like you said, based more heavily on a witchy aesthetic than mori is meant to be.

>>8233740
>>8233713
There's not really a good solution. If there was some kind of designated female fashion board it would get spammed for being the ~girl board~ even more than /cgl/ already gets shitposted in for that. I don't think a /jfa/ board would be very popular. It's best to just put it on /cgl/

a lot of this just looks like witchy goth.

>>8233652
I like some of the other photos but this looks like typical tumblr shit.

Here's my problem with this shit.
It gets popular, but unless your skinny or have a very European face, it looks like gawthic hot topic trash. And then all the ugly fatties fuck it up.
idk it just frustrates me

>>8233670
I remember one anon jokingly calling it memento mori

>>8234051
that happens in pretty much any fashion, sadly

>>8234051
#1 rule of fashion: be skinny and pretty

>>8234051

>>8234128
>that face

>>8234136
As a fatty chan myself this is not okay please stop. Dress for your shapeless shape. I see these sackplanets in crop tops at the mall all the time and I want to vomit on them to make them look better.

>>8234136
As a skinny chan myself I think she looks great. Hair, make up, outfit, everything looks fantastic.

It really bothers me that strega is some upcoming and popular jfash. Not that I don't love it, but because this shit isn't anything new and it's getting popular because "zomg japanese fashion desuuuuu!!!"

This style is so far from anything new and unique; it's just goth that loosely follows current high fashion trends. This shit is everywhere. There are people in my lolita comm having strega meets and shit, and to me it's just the same damn normalfag clothes that myself and many others have been wearing for years. It feels weird to me that people are trying to build the whole lifestyle/event culture around it that lolita has.

>>8234061
>memento mori

Laughed harder than I should have.

>>8234180
Her makeup is awful, are we looking at the same photo?

>>8234061
Fuck.

>>8234166
Also fatty chan, also agreed. Holy fuck.

>>8234180
Fatty in denial detected

>>8234321
This.

>>8234061

>>8234061
This is great

>>8233913
I absolutely love this holy shit. I've been getting more into strega fashion and I love the baggy/unfitted look and layers upon layers on top, but to be honest I really like showing off my legs lol. This is perfect.

>>8234128
>>8234136
I wouldn't consider her look strega at all, more just goth.

I'm gonna post some from the tag that really stand out, if that's cool with you guys. This one's nice I think because it's very simple.

>>8234321
Idk as long as people aren't calling it j-fash I think it's fine. If people want to develop a western fashion with a culture behind it, fine. just don't attribute it to some other culture to fit your weab fetish needs.

even if it has sketch origins I'd rather they just call it strega and call it a day. it is a very specific style, there's no reason not to give it a name

>>8234409
Basically everything SCTTS wears is phenomenal and inspiring, even her more regular mori-esque outfits.

>>8234417
More from her.
The only thing frustrating about the tag is that there's so many people wearing one baggy normie top or like a corset and calling it strega. There's a lot to go through.

>>8234429

>>8234409
Are there any with shorter skirts/dresses?

>>8234433

>>8234438
She looks homeless.

>>8234434
Sometimes, I'll keep an eye out! SCTTS will often layer a couple layers of socks (tights + thigh highs + leg warmers) when she wears shorts and it usually looks really cute.

>>8234450
Sometimes that happens.

Also I just realized >>8234429 was already posted, sorry about that.

>>8234473
Trying to avoid posting her again and again, but I like this because she's using a Bodyline dress and I think it's a neat idea.

>>8234409
this looks awfully plain. you need either more accessories or better lighting/makeup
please don't post this

>>8234496
Not me friend, sorry. It's one of the first posts in the tag. If I was going to self post I wouldn't be stupid enough to make it the first post in a tag dump. Too obvious.

>>8234509

>>8234514

>>8234526

>>8234540
this just looks like shitty mall goth

>>8234473
I LOVE this look. I do this sometimes with belts around those high low sleeveless drapey vests.

>>8234553
Same! I liked that she used the tights, I think the whole outfit is super balanced.

>>8234551
What makes you say so, the hair? The leggings are a little off to me but I still think it qualifies.

>>8234321
The entire point of calling it strega is to disassociate it from j-fash. Hence strega and not "dark mori." Strega is the Italian word for witch - a European word, a western fashion.

Lolitas try to build cultures about everything, this is not new. If it bothers you, don't participate? Like any other trend, it will run its course.

>>8234565
I knew it probably look strange to other people but I felt pleased with it and my friends who weren't even into goth style liked it too. I am such a sucker for outfits that look interesting like that. Makes me want to expand my wardrobe with more layered flowy things.

>>8234411
this

Does anyone mind pointing me in the direction of any stores that sell dark drapey clothing and stuff that xan be layered?

>>8233749
>Thinking classic and gothic are the same, just in different colours

Girlll

>>8234576
the hair. the tights. the boots. the wrinkled ass cotton hot topic dress. all of it really. kinda like her hat I guess?

this >>8234576 is not much better. I can feel the bad stitching and cheap fabric through the screen it's painful

>>8234603
You can find all sorts of useful outfit pieces at boohoo. Shopped there before (a haul of 9 shirts and one pair of tights) and their quality is good, their social media connection is active on twitter, and their fb msg help (note i said msg, not posting on their wall calling them scammers for not having your order come in super fucking fast) is impressive. One of my shirts that came in its own separate bag had moisture in it so I asked them about it and they said they'd send me a replacement free that came in 2 days later. The only complaint I might have is if youre buying something tight, you might not fit in it as well as someone with smaller boobs, so be prepared.

>>8234136
the other pic was just awful, but I actually really love this look

>>8233669
>mori is all about light colors

No it's not? It's just about natural colors, not light colors.

>>8234707
mori has only ever used light colors though. it's not like gothic lolita that just mostly uses black, but has some variation. it ONLY used light/medium colors

>>8234743
That's because black isn't really natural. Most things are dark brown or grey, you only see black in shadows.

>>8234743
I've seen an awful lot of mori girls wearing brown, anon. And darker greens. And almost-navy blues. I'm not saying black, but mori definitely uses dark colors. They're just natural dark colors.

I don't understand this at all. A lot of these outfits look sort of like the stuff I've worn for who knows how many years, since I was a kid probably, only I don't like most of these outfits. I also don't see what most of these looks have in common, they all look so different and few of them actually feel "witchy" or whatever.

It's just sort of weird for me I guess and I don't get a feeling of "witch" or even mori in a darker color pallet (I often make outfits based on the theme of witches or fairies so I'd like to think I have at least a bit of an idea how to get the feeling). But I'm not trying to hate, don't take it the wrong way. I guess I'm just confused.

>>8234754
yes but they are used as complimentary to the outfit, not the main colors. "dark Mori" insists there's a subset of mori that utilizes a dark palette, which is flat out wrong.

>>8234788
I could see the concept of dark mori as possible, and I have seen mori outfits that are truly mori using almost exclusively dark colors, but I wouldn't consider it a substyle and it's very unusual and seems like it would be harder to pull off and still get the natural feeling mori is suppose to have.

>>8234788
You originally wrote that it was a "shitty term" because mori only uses light colors, but that's why it's called "dark mori" and not just mori. I don't know why you're so upset over this.

>>8234806
you are responding to two different anons, sorry. my point was just that mori is typically light with only dark accents and that "dark mori" as a substyle was developed outside of the fashion and the name was tacked on

>>8234785
all i could read was
>I've been wearing hot topic trash for years

>>8234895
Actually half my clothes come from thrift shops because I am poorfag and hate mainstream clothes.
I don't think I own any clothes from Hot Topic anymore to be honest, and when I did it was t shirts? Since when did Hot Topic sell clothes that looked like whatever this is?

>>8234579
>european word, western fashion

So then Lolita is also a western fashion because Lolita is a Spanish nickname, right? Calling it something else isn't going to dissociate it with jfash because it looks like jfash.

>>8234909

>not sure if troll or just has really poor reading comprehension

>>8234923
Alright, I must have poor reading comprehension then, sorry. I don't really know what I misread. If you mistook me for a troll I'm honestly sorry that whatever I said that bothered you.

>>8234934
you're so tumblrcore it hurts

>>8234936
I don't even have a tumblr. I apologized and that makes me a tumblr? I still don't know what I did wrong, so, yeah sorry.

>>8234061
10/10

>>8234892
I just don't see what the problem with that is, I guess. Mori fashion was born by one person in an online community as well so it's not like it's sacred; I'd rather someone say "this is my dark mori coord" and know that it's an extension of the style with its own differences than just try to shove it all into mori girl proper. But it's better in the end that it split off into strega for the most part.

this looks like trendified goth. but call it strega, bc i don't want some tumblr fad appropriating goth culture.

>>8234950
you're just easily trolled. and are apologizing to a troll.

>>8235003
So I am, I kinda realize that now. This place isn't really my territory or comfort zone. Call me naïve.

>>8234128
ew

>>8234180
everything looks so bad
are you blind

Some of this just looks like girly Goth Ninja, tbh /fa/ would be a good place for this style in specific.

This like crappier failed gothninja with cheap clothes

>>8235171
>>8235374
lol what the fuck is goth ninja?

What is this middle school shit?

>>8235378
gothninja is some /fa/ term for all black fits. Generally they are kinda baggy.

>>8234496
Shut the fuck up, this isn't lolita.

>>8234975
>this
my muse for dark mori is still the feel of the forest, but at night. then the palate feels super natural to me when layering is done as if utilizing the shadows of the woods.

>>8235378
>>8235391
It's a little more specific than that, but generally interesting layering and unusual/ exaggerated cuts. Popular a few years ago, on tumblr too. More high fashion. Edgy avant garde shit. See: Rick Owens.

>>8235410
Maybe some yohi yamamoto too? Haven't kept up with this stuff in a while

There's a name for this? Fck. I've been dressing like this for years. Missing out on the coords.

>>8235419
But yeah, not just an fa thing. Tends to look pretty stupid irl unless you're really experienced, are using actual good designer stuff, and have a model body. Well even then life isn't a black and white photoshoot.

>>8234136
>>8234166
>>8234362
>tfw former fatty chan with still the mindset of a fatty chan
I'm a headscarf away of dressing like a muslim girl

I never understood why anyone would dress so skimpy in public. Expecially fatty-chans...I don't care if you want to be fat but I don't need to see that jiggle.

>>8235442
Found this. Jesus.
Anyway last one, I hope you can see what I meant now.

>>8235171 this.
Looking through the thread I genuinely think if you posted half this crap on /fa/ they'd love it. They're all gothninja fags there.

Honestly most of this stuff isn't very new or progressive, black layered shit has been the go-to for 'high-fashion' people for years now, look at high-end designers and models walking around the street and you'll see most of these looks, if maybe a bit more 'normal' with jeans.

So it is boho-goth-homeless?

>>8233749
>Like classic and gothic lolita?

u wot

>>8234061
This. I want to call it this. And I'd wear more dark-themed jewelry.

But what about in summer? Or in hot climates? Any picture examples?

>>8234603
No kidding, H&M Divided have kind of a goth line with long drapey clothes and things with crosses and stars. I only found that selection in one shop though, and I live in a big city.

>>8235493
most of this forest girl/mori/strega shit is non-applicable to warm climates. It's why it always pops up in September/October when it starts getting cold and then disappears around May.

this is just normal-fag hipster clothing except black. I don't see the big deal.
Outta here normies

>>8234321
>>8234579
>>8234411
>>8235514
So can it be agreed that this is really just stylished streetfashion for aging goths and NOT jfash and therefore doesn't belong here ever again? Who cares if this is the ~girl board~ we still need to stay on topic. Go mori or go home pls tumblr

>>8235533
So why is it on this board? CGL is for cosplay and Lolita with some Jfash thrown in. Not western fashion stuff. Especislly not tumblr fashion stuff.

Omg I think I found my thing. Thanks, OP.

>>8234785
I don't get the witchy feel from any of these, either. Sucks because I love the concept if dressing like a forest witch but most of these just look like baggy black shit draped over more baggy black shit plus boots.

>>8234922
It so does not look like jfash. Being an Eurofag, this looks exactly like wicca style we've had here for at least 15 years but with an even more toned down colour pallet. And now the style just has a new name, it's just been re-discovered.

>>8235602
I searched 'Wicca style' but did not find photos of what you are describing. Can you point some out please? Thanks!

>>8235406

>I'm a super special snowflake fairy kin with my own view of the forest and no actual concern for the tenants of the fashion I claim to wear

you wanna post some of your magical mystical night mori coords? or any of your inspo? or even where you buy shit to wear for it??

>>8235833
Since you've made yourself the mori police, how about you go first?

>>8235869
>>8235833
C'mon ladies, lets not get the cops involved, how about a good old fashioned forest brawl? Try not to get caught on each other's wool scarves now....

>>8235428
Same here anon.
This is great. I also throw in dark lolita dresses sans-petticoat to these coords from time to time, I love it.

>>8235602
>>8235799
Wicca is a religion and not a style, you idiot

>>8234128
Reminds me a lot of that chick from Little Britain...

>>8235897
You must have been one troubled ita for a long time, I am so sorry for you.

>>8234128
This just looks like shitty nu-goth.

>>8234411
But it's not even it's own fashion with it's own culture...it looks really fucking similar to the modern variants of goth that have been going around for ages.

>>8234459
If it's cold enough to layer that much legwear, it's cold enough for sleeves.

>>8235948
The arms are closer to the heart, she may have awful circulation!

>>8234785
This just reminds me of a female version of /fa/'s gothninja shit.

Some of these outfits have a witchy feel for me, but most just look like nu-goth or gothninja, some look like shitty attempts at dark mori,

>>8234540
looks like boy george

>>8235570
I understand not wanting to throw them to the neckbeard lions of /fa/ but this isn't jfash, it isn't even close enough to decent-quality dark mori to belong here, and to be honest it really looks like a female version of the shit /fa/ get wet over. I understand what >>8235602 meant by wicca style - yeah, wicca's a religion, but a lot of neo-pagans dress in a distinctive way that's like a mix between goth and hippy, which this resembles.

>>8233658
>>8233652
>>8234540
These all feel sort of greasy and dirty. I want to throw them in a bath with carbolic soap.

>>8235948
your autism is showing

>>8235799
I'll try to find pictures, but here where I live it doesn't go with neither the name strega nor wicca style. It's such a common way for many to dress it's hard to label as something special.
>>8235920
Calm your tits, Sandy-chan, I know it's a religion, but >>8236027 understood what I meant. This "fashion" is nothing new nor is it jfash is all I wanted to say. I'll try to find pics though.

>>8235799
We know. So is witchcraft but 'witchy style' is descriptive too. I was interested to see what she was describing and I understood her meaning by context. Lighten up, no disrespect was meant.

>>8236235
>>8235602 here. Anon, I'm so glad
we share the same wawe length.

You mean there's a fashion now for vegan women who go to crystal shops who smell like incense 24/7?

>>8238474
That fashion has been around for years. I've been seeing women dressed like that since I was a little kid, and I'm 20. It's even got its own archetype.

>>8238842
it has also been known as "witchy goth" or Stevie Nicks. this is just a modern version without being part of goth culture or music in general.

>>8238842
Yes, a deviantart meme. What well known reliable source material.

>>8238875
Do you not leave your house? They're everywhere. "le meme" or not.

>>8238884
This. I only included the dA thing because it's years old, in order to illustrate the point that this isn't fucking new at all.

>>8233713
I don't think you understand the difference between fashion and clothes. Fashion is what is popular to the general masses, be it clothing, electronics, tech, brands etc. See also 'trend'.

Lolita isn't a trend or in fashion, so no, it doesn't belong on /fa/. It has its own trends within its lolita catagory that are fashionable to those who subscribe to it, but it is not fashion. If there was a board for clothes then it would belong there but funnily enough there is a board called /cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL were it belongs...

General Jfash or altfash? Well by the above stated logic it doesn't belong on /fa/ either. It doesn't belong here. It doesn't belong anywhere. But really most people don't fucking care as most on this board might have an interest in other Jfash or altfash they might'nt mind. If you do mind, maybe be a big kid and don't impulsively click on this thread if it doesn't interest you.

This reply kind of went to shit because alcohol happened. Anyways TL:DR: Chill Winston.

>>8234136
Fuck it, if your fat just embrace it. Dress like you want.

Seriously, covering up doesn't trick people into not noticing your fat. If they see you, they aren't under any delusions of the fatness, if they are keen they will go for it or not care. Flaunt that shit if you so desire, fuck anyone who can't take it cause that's their problem not yours. (unless of course you have a heart attack.. that's your problem... But you signed up for that shit when you picked up that bag of cheese balls so own it.)

>>8238911
Actually no, whatever you want to call this shit (hippy goth, nu goth, high fashion goth, witch style, strega, whatever) it still ISN'T jfashion which actually IS allowed on this board. See mori, decora, and gyaru threads. Contrary to what you assume, most people who frequent this board actually want to adhere to the rules, which are admittedly already stringent but if we can't have our dramu then tumblr kiddies and /f/aggots can't sit around comparing their all black outfits. I never want to see this shit pop up on /cgl/ again, pls

>>8238924
Weren't some people calling this dark mori?

>>8238926
Did you read the thread? "Dark mori" really doesn't exist as a legitimate substyle of mori girl, and this fashion style has been around since forever. Most recently it has been called 'strega', a name deliberately chosen to distinguish it from jfashion.

>>8238920
>Seriously, covering up doesn't trick people into not noticing your fat. If they see you, they aren't under any delusions of the fatness, if they are keen they will go for it or not care.
This is very true. Unless you're just slightly chubby, or have an uneven weight distribution (say thin torso but huge hips that lolita would hide), no-one is gonna think a fat girl is thin. You can dress to make yourself look good, you can dress in clothes you like, but you can't dress to look thin.

>>8238936

>dress to make yourself look good

fucking this. I am so sick of people trying to dress to make themselves look skinnier instead of dressing to make themselves look thei best, regardless of their body type. sometimes that means looking thinner, sometimes it doesn't. case in point: I am of the group that is "unevenly proportioned" you mentioned (big ish boobs; huugge butt/thighs; reasonably small middle) and a lot of the time I'm never going to be able to hide or disguise that. I CAN however select shapes and fits that smooth out my curves and make them actually look good, which is what matters. fatty chans aren't going to make themselves look thin, but they can make themselves look good. which in the end is what should matter

>>8234061
>disneyworld shop
Why is this perfect?

When I think of mori or 'strega' I think billowy, comfy, warm clothes that someone living in the wilderness would wear in a fairy tale.

>>8240199

>>8240201

>>8234128
from the thumbnail I thought it was a normal sized girl kneeling.

>>8236027
>a mix between goth and hippy

Yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking. You know, overpriced clothes you'd find at a local New Age gift shop.

>>8240213

>>8240257

I blame AHS Coven

>>8240489
thought of that too. which largely took inspiration from >>8235969

>>8234180
Fatty hiding behind the internet....

This stuff reminds me of those pyramid collection magazines I used to pour over during my goth phase.

>>8241813
>pyramid collection
Oh god anon me too. Just had to go through my old stuff at my parents house and the amount of crushed panne velvet gowns and resin faux-pewter trinket boxes was overwhelming.
>doll sized heavy resin casket used to hold actual memento mori from relatives
>how fucking embarrassing was I to deal with when I was 20

>>8234136
>>8234128
im a fat chick who wears this style and she is fucking nightmare fuel. what is that makeup. you look stumpy. stop.

>>8234136
I would have been fine with this if it didn't appear her only makeup tool is a chisel tip Sharpie.
>black lips
>black eyeliner all the way up past the crease
>black eyebrows?!
>no shadow or softness anywhere

>>8242255
I wonder if she runs out of black smudge sticks often. If she, ya know, smudged em, it wouldnt be AS bad. But girl them BROWS. I draw my brows on every day and they've never been that bad,not even my first time.

But her outfit doesn;t flow well enough to be strega. I like the destroyed top in that image, but she has to use sculpting to get the right shape and shes not. She just looks like shes wearing a garbage bag. and those socks holy shit too short.

>>8234136
I love this kind of webby top. Does anyone know where to get a similar one?

>>8235926
You mean the man?

>>8242272
I think Heavy Red clothing used to have one, also there was a Punk Rave one on ReStyle's website. Also eBay maybe? Searching for stuff like "distressed top" and "distressed knitwear".

>>8238842
I encountered one of these in the bus yesterday. He stank but was very interesting to talk to.

>>8238920
It's not about making people think you're thin, it's about common decency and not shoving your cellulite-ridden blobs in people's faces. We know it's there but that doesn't mean we want to see it.

>tfw getting comfortable with the idea I'll be a stocky athletic shape forever
>see this thread
>tfw can never be a kawaii waif without an eating disorder

I'm not trying to hate. I'm just mad jelly these girls will have a body type I will never have sans surgery and near starvation. I guess I'll go back to my weights again ;_;.

>>8243426
I don't think you need to be a waif, Anon, if your shoulders are the widest point and you get sizes that will hang and drape and wear chunkier types of footwear I think this look is do-able for a stocky but fit person. I always size up on these kinds of drapey flowy things, even getting plus or men's
sizes if I can for the illusion of things seeming a bit too large/me a bit more dainty. I'm not skinny nor fat, but pear shaped so that's how I do it. Works for CPK too but it's a bit harder because lighter colors.
>>8234128 would look large in other fashions too because they are just pretty big. But they are not dressed in a very flattering way.

Where do you can buy this kind of outfit? Is it expensive?

>>8234136
Her face reminds me of Molly Soda

>>8233740
This, and it's full of narcissistic underage boys who don't know shit about fashion and just circle jerk there to be edgy
The only genuinely helpful people there are tripskank and fascist faggot, occasionally Koishi and some older trips who aren't cancer.

>>8243459
H&M or flea market and no.

>>8243459
Thrift shops, H&M Divided, random stores (both normalfag and alternative). It's cheap as balls, even cheaper than normalfag fashion.

>>8233648
I always though it was the western way of dark mori kei, thanks anon!

>>8236027
I agree. Dark-coloured mori is one thing, but the textures and cuts of these clothes look way too modern to be called mori. It's a total departure from the style, and people shouldn't be claiming that it's j-fash.

>>8238474
I know just what you mean. I swear I could smell nag champa while I was looking at >>8233652

Can we just admit that this fashion is straight up 'dressing like the girls from AHS: Coven'?

>>8244439
>thinking AHS created the all black look

Ooohhh, chile.

>>8244439
What is that show anyway?

The only strega who matters.

>>8244448
American Horror Story

>>8244439
Never heard of it, and I know for a fact this has been around way longer, so no, we can't, because the only thing in common between the two is the color black.

>>8244475
get down on it

>>8244509
Ohhhh I thought it might be a webseries or some shit or like, a comedy. Pity, I don't really like American Horror Story.

>>8244439
I fucking love her umbrella.

>>8244475
strega mofuckin nona mah qurl

>>8244475
Ahhh I fucking loved these books.

>>8234328
I chocked on my spit I laughed so hard

>>8234429
I'm happy this is a thing now because outside of lolita this is how I dress I just like baggy ass dark clothing and if this becomes a thing it will be easier to get prices it has helped a lot since the whole coven thing kicked off. Most people hate when their style become a trend but I love it. more buying options and I still look better than the noobs.

May I suggest a little dose of non-steampunk, non-FRILL, h.Naoto? You'd get the japan part of jfashion back, GRAMM has always worked well for darker mori, and clothes are pretty comfy to boot.

>>8242245
Is there any examples of good fat chicks wearing this trend? Im a fatty myself and i quite like this trend.

>>8245158

Yea? Nay? I can't figure out if these are "strega" or not

>>8245164

they look a bit like victorian mourning fashion to me and don't seem that comfy.

>>8245164
I love the silhouette of the first one.

wow my mom dresses like this, i didn't know it was a thing. awesome

>>8245396

Oh. I nabbed a quick composite image instead of doing an image dump. Guess it accidentally ended up being corset-heavy, which is pretty unusual for h.Naoto.

Speaking from experience, h.Naoto favours stretch knit with screenprint on them, so there's a lot of t-shirt-like clothes with deconstructed details to choose from. For 8245164, the middle chick with feathers and a veil is in fact wearing a cutsew underneath. The girl one the bottom right, with the bowl cut hair, is most likely wearing something stretchy as well. Though of course, if you pick stretch knit dresses over corsets you probably won't get the nice silhoutte that >>8245581 pointed out.

I don't get it. I don't even see any consistency in the style other then black/grey clothing. Some looked like a mori coord dumped into black fabric dye, others are just black skinny jeans with some random loose vest worn over a black shirt.

Either way I can't see this become anything other then a short lived fad.

>>8235920
Strega is a religion too, you moron. Newflash: English words generally have multiple usages.
sage for OT

strega is italian for an old wrinkly gross witch not some cute modern 90s witch you dumbasses

Where are some good places to buy fashion like this? I know killstar clothing is one, but it's super expensive.

>>8248446
>killstar

Don't buy from there unless you want to be a fuckboi.

Your best bet to do this cheaply is to thrift. H&M's divided range can be okay (not great quality tho, so don't fill your wardrobe with it).

>>8245158
>>8245164
>>8245608
None of this looks "strega" to me. The materials and cuts are either too modern or too Victorian.
If you want something strega like in Japanese fashion you have to look at Dark Red Rum and h.Naoto Gramm.
Most of that also looks a lot better and more witchy than actual strega. I think half of that fashion is just clothing made for overweight hippie grandmas worn by skinny young goths.

>>8244439
Get checked for cataract.

>>8248464
And here's Dark Red Rum, which is also from h.Naoto I think.

>>8248466
Some Alice Auaa collections also have that look. I can't find walkway pics or coords that reflect it but if you look at individual items you will see.

Would what Misty Day wore in American Horror Story: Coven be considered strega?

I didn't think I'd love Misty's style as much as I do.

Black Peace Now (dead now) and Sheglit (new label from the same designer) also makes some strega-able items but more on the fancy goth side.

>>8245164
It looks more like a costume than normal clothes.

>>8248477
it's based off of Stevie Nicks, so yes.

why is this thread still here?

>>8245161
I don't really want to self post but i guess i might post a single coord later if this thread is still around

I'm glad this has a name now. The last time I was on this board, people were still calling it "dark mori" and other people were saying that was wrong.

>>8235410
>dementor-kai

>>8248742
seaweed fashion

>>8235410
Dick Ovens is just plain weird now.

>>8248742
except people are saying strega is wrong too, and that this has been around forever and doesn't need a special snowflake name when it is literally just witchy goth.

>>8248896
it definitely isn't "witchy goth" though, "witchy goth" is that kind of mid-90s crushed-velvet-and-pentagrams goth that EVERYONE is trying to move away from now. fashions like this are going to get called a lot of things--and there are going to be people who hate the term for it even once the title has been settled--but I really feel like "strega" is a perfectly fine name for it.

It captures the witchiness and removes the goth from the equation, which is necessary if you don't want losers to get confused and turn strega into the next hot topic fad

>>8243459
thrift stores are the best place to find stuff like this on the cheap. because you want intricate layering, don't be obsessed with the size of the clothes you find. look at tight/form fitting basic layers like leggings/tights and tank tops, and then various different loose black pieces for on top. a long open sweater, a baggy black or grey shirt. look for loose, flowing materials for the top half. try different combinations of materials to make the outfits more visually stimulating. don't forget the importance of accessorizing when wearing a fashion like this, it's super important to get your headwear and shoes looking good or you'll just look like a goth bag lady (which many pics in this thread do look like)

what words could i use to find good elements while shopping? Or links to places to buy them? Strega and dark mori arent really giving me links to things i want.

dude, it's basically pagan goof ninja, it would fit right in with /fit/

>>8248911
layered, asymmetric cut, tunic, floor length.

Come on.

>>8249106
wait, forget it, >>8235171 pointed that out already. oh well

>>8248452
B-but they have some nice items...

so... this is dark random layered clothing fashion? Seems like it's only able to look anything decent on skinny girls. Not even slim, only really skinny girls.

>>8249209
its all about balance and knowing what shapes look best on your body.

>>8248899
>removes the goth from the equation
Strega often feels quite goth-y to me, though. Most people on Tumblr who follow the fashion (and even SCTTS herself) tag their posts with both "strega" and "goth" (or "gothgoth").

>>8249214
To me, most of this Strega stuff I've seen just looks like what goths wear in the winter.

>>8244532
Coven was best season hands down

>>8249214
>or "gothgoth"
wut

>>8248734
I'd appreciate it! otherwise some links to others who do it right?

>>8249959
Not sure if you're laughing about the fact this doesn't strongly resemble goth goth, or confused by the term; if the latter, you should know that basically all the actual goths who tracked the goth tag on tumblr got pissed off by the sort of shite that was posted on the "goth" tag, especially pastel goths tagging their stuff as "goth", and created the "gothgoth" tag to avoid it.

>>8250789
shortcuttothestars is the only person i can think of that looks consistently good in outfits that don't look too much like either mori, goth ninja or regular goth, but she also posts all of those things plus the odd lolita, so it can get confusing.

>>8244442
>>8244517
>>8248464


Bless your little hearts. It's nice to imagine that the tumblrettes latching onto this style and pretending they have something really unique going on got their ideas from gothic aesthetics from years gone by, but let's entertain the possibility that 'strega's' sudden surge in popularity just ~might~ have something to do with a show that was so popular on tumblr it spawned a site-wide meme and sparked new interest in a series that has very little else to offer. :^)

They literally call it 'witch fashion', grow a pair of ears already. Regardless of the actual roots of this fashion, tumblr is just copying their flavour of the month.

>>8248742
It is wrong. Mori is based on natural materials and traditional cuts and patterns. Strega is dressing like a hippy goth.

>>8248899
But it is the next hot topic fad...

>>8249213
it's all about being skinny and pale.

>>8252202
this, if the pictures saying they're 'strega' weren't of girls who are really skinny and as white as a sheet, nobody would have bat an eye about this fashion. Obviously this counts for more things then just strega but it really feels like this isn't a fashion unless you are both of those things.

>>8244475
The pasta one was my favorite.

>>8252212
There's like ONE chubby strega in the tag, and she looks better in mori anyway.

It seems like the fabrics and cuts in strega just don't suit fat people.

Kek

Does anyone know where I can get a hat like this?

>>8252678
>my tiny thing
>my

Ugh.

>>8253331
I ALMOST had respect for Mai until I read >>8252678

/fa/ here

This shit is just outdated gothninja and tumblr goth fashion. It stopped being trendy when witch house died back in 2012.

I seriously hope you girls don't think it's new at all.

btw this has nothing to do on /cgl/

> being this late

everyone and their mum has been doing this "new trend" of yours for 4 years

/fa/ also here not to listen to these other fuccboi nerds, street goth never entered the mainstream. Wear whatever you want and don't let people on Chinese cartoon forums tell you it's outdated.
Also I still think it's hella cute.

>>8253886
>tfw no witch house gf

ITT Everyone attempts to look like homeless meth addicts.

>>8253896
yes. How is that bad?

>>8253886

>>8252702
Step 1: leave the house for once in your 4chan life
Step 2: go to mall
Step 3: go in any fucking normalfag fashion shop

Okay, I'll be fair, not all shops do them so it might not be in the first one you look in, but if you go into a few high-street stores you'll definitely find something similar.

>>8253886
>people with these types of opinions browse /fa/

>>8253823
Perfect, although the attitudes espoused within are entirely different.

RAF SIMMONS
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>>8243426

I'm pear-shaped and I feel the same. Getting /fit/ will just make my ass and thighs even bigger.

Luckily the loose flowy layers of the fashion let me pretend to be a waif. I do the same as >>8243435 and look for oversized pieces that drape in a way that gives me the shape I want. Also seconding the chunky footwear, adding height is slimming.

>>8253956
>wanting to be a waif
>not wanting to be hot even though you are genetically predisposed to be hot

wow kill you are self forever

>>8253896
Shut up dad, you just don't understand.

>>8253956
>>8243426
>not wanting to be a far superior amazonian
For shame

>>8243471
This. Jesus.

>>8243471
koishi shitposts together with reeeee and some 15 year old dude called birthday DAILY on /fa/. /fa/scist faggot, knochensack, tripskank, user and mamma dod are the only helpful and actually fashionable posters on that awful board, half of them don't even post anymore.

>>8253942
dont worry we think of all of you as losers

I won't lie, I don't care for lolita. I do think its more costume than fashion. But I can 100% see how it appeals to people in its own way. This, I don't get at all. It looks like what edgy preteens wear before finding out how to put together an outfit. I just can't wrap my head around it at all.

I'm only posting because my mind is full of fuck. Its not mori girl or ninja goth, its so... messy. And not even in an appealing, purposeful way.

>>8254112
It's very simple.

Witches are cool. Looking like a witch is cool.

>>8254208
But most of it doesn't look like a goddamn witch at all.

>>8248899
There's nothing witchy about it, though.

>>8254220
Is this what a witch looks like?
Seriously, I don't wear this shit but you must be pretty fucking dull if you can't see the inspiration or appeal.

>>8254242
But that's an image of a Lolita wtf are you talking about.
THAT looks 100x more witchy than the majority of this strega shit.

>>8254245
I'm talking about you thinking of fucking pointy hats and brooms like you're 12.

>>8254249
What are we supposed to think a witch looks like?

I didn't realize witches were just teens that wore baggy layers of black that doesn't flatter their figure height or size.

>>8254258
Some examples.

>>8254265
Still looks nothing like this strega shit kek
And let's be real here, "witches" just wore whatever was normal for their time, I'm sure.

>>8254272
no shit Sherlock
It's almost as if witches aren't real and there is a variety of depictions of them

we're laughing at you.

>>/fa/9707874

>>8254401
well fuck
>>>/fa/9707874

>>8254401
dont think we spent a second thinking about you... youre just scum to us

>>8254431

Holyshit you guys are a bunch of autists

>>8254434
hey cool I love mgs

>>8254449
ZANZIBARLAND

can u cosplay paz and I'll be chico pls tbh

i never thought that girls could be autistic before going on cgl

>>8254463
nah Im going for sunny

>>8254466
Please do not lump them in with us. I may be autistic but I sure as hell won't dress like some shitty /fa/ rip-off

ok so I tried my hand at this "strega" fashion

how'd I do?

>>8254505
christ

>>8254505
lumpy is the word that comes to my mind and Im not even sure if that means what Im thinking of

>s anyone else into this? I've just discovered it

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

>>8254505
Fucking untie that

>>8254509
you're still posting that same boring fit LOL

>>8254507
look at that asperg, sitting here and monitoring the thread like a thirsty fuckboy

>>8254505
not not goth enoth

wear a hood or a yohji yamamoto hat

and fucking untie that belt

goofninja is about feeling the G vector dragging you down

>>8254508
nope I meant laundry

>>8254505
offensively bad

>>8254514
I just got here :^) sorry ur siq fit got shitted on

>>8254514
>fuckboy
awww, look at the little seagull trying to speak like the big bois!
it's so cute!

>>8254519
who said she was going for goofninja?

>>8254529
it looks like her dryer spit up on her. who knows what she is really going for

>>8254527

>>8252678

>>8254529
she used the word people in this thread have been using to refer to gothninja.

either way not goth enoth, she just looks like she stormed through the local H&M, where they sell safe, toned-down versions of gooby pieces.

>>8254482
shame I'm not a degenerate pedo then.

If you had said olga on the other hand...

This was my first attempt. Any thoughts?

>>8254539
yeah because I was totally implying that my characters task was to be your sex toy

>>8254540
tumblr/10

wouldn't make an egregore with

>>8254540
WHAT UP REI KAWAKUBO

JUST KIDDING YOU LOOK LIKE SHIT

>>8254541
>can u cosplay paz and I'll be chico
>nah Im going for sunny

smh at least collect the audio tapes tbh

>>8254507
>>8254508
>>8254509
>>8254519
>>8254522
>>8254537
my clothes are all designer pieces that retail for at least $500 each though... you guys are only proving that you dont have any clue about fashion so go back to buying your cheap sweatshop clothes on taobao

>>8254546
i kekked 6/10

>>8254543
Nigga you ain't /goof/. You just look like every fuccboi in 2014.

She may look like a tumblrite attention whore but at least she has the balls to try something extravagant.

You don't even look like techno interests you even though you vaguely took inspo from Antti.

>>8254546
That's bullshit, but I believe it.

>>8254546
>my clothes are all designer pieces that retail for at least $500 each though
doesn't mean they aren't shit lmao. you're only proving that YOU don't know anything about fashion

>>8254546
grape bape i rape it ape

>>8254542
oh what a shame. I'm not even on tumblr anymore. Suggestions? And you wouldn't make a collective group mind with me? Wut.

>>8254544
I still see no connection ?

but I can be the beauty

>>8254549
You seem to know your shit. Help me not look like a tumblr whore?

>>8254554
ditch the hairdye or wig

try to get more flattering makeup or glasses, you have a kinga piggish facial structure so work against that. Red lipstick says "cunt" like nothing else.

otherwise it works

>>8254555
ehhhh 4 was pretty meh and octopus was best girl anyway.

i think this is the right one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi5118dawhc

anyways I don't really like this board I remember seeing a screencap from here on /fit/ once about vaginal discharge or something. bye.

>>8254556
Green hair is tumblr as fuck.

>>8254560
Man.
It's actually a dark purple lipstick.
Suggestions for the piggy face thing? Good point on the hair dye.

>>8254569
go for a jog you fat cunt

>>8254569
it mostly just means that you have a long philtrum and a short upturned nose, those details can't be fixed but you can minimize them by not using such big sunglasses that make your nose look even shorter. Then it's down to the hairstyle to minimize the width of your face.

But as far as makeup is concerned just make it less bold.

>>8254563
Is it better that it's actually light blue? I have no idea! I haven't used tumblr in over a year

>>8254579
unnatural colors have all been appropriated by tumblr attention whores who want to tell the world that they're super-special and quirky and really like cartoons and should be respected because of that.

Sorry.

>>8254575
gr8 b8 m8 8/8

>>8254586
yes but it's also good advice

>>8254593
Yeah, I see that.

>>8254578
this is all very helpful advice. Thank you. I used to have longer hair and I think that helped slim my face.

>>8254593
Oh except im not fat soo...

>>8254599
as long as you're happy beu

>>8254584
Ah man. Thanks for the heads up.
This needs to be fixed. Appreciate it

>>8253983
>want to be amazon mode, but muh lolita
>idgaf anymore
>LIGHTWEIGHTBABYYY
>actually start lifting my bodyweight, feelin dem gainz... slowly
>I think i'm gonna make it bruh

>>8252138
>white people with dreads

>>8252678

>>8233872

do NOT mention me or post my pictures on this cancerous board for christ's sake. *UGH*

>>8254694
>*UGH*

>>8254694
and who the fuck are you

>>8254818
14 years old fat shitposter from /fa/, just report and ignore

>>8234743
>mori has only ever used light colors though
Your newfag is showing.

>>8254519
dat kanye is 10/10

/fa/ here, i've got some goofninja inspo

>>8255694

>>8255697

>>8255700
also a few that fit the aesthetic but not the color palette

>>8255701

>>8255704

>>8255706

/fa/ loves this shit tho.

>>8255694

fuckwit with bad taste detected

you don't represent /fa/

>>8255694
that's nice, but nobody asked you to.

please take a look around and realize that stuff like >>8255697 or >>8255706, while being great fits and perfectly ok for casual wear, are not what /cgl/ is about. it doesn't even have anything to do with the thread, which was already straining it.

if you absolutely have to post goof ninja, at least go for stuff like pic related.

>>8238474
I'm not vegan but I'm the rest of that, and honestly I wouldn't mind a definite term for it just so I can make a friend or two with the same interests as me, that isnt a shopkeeper to a store I frequent or my own boyfriend. Even just a pen pal to write letters to and do tarot readings for would be cool.

side note, I don't see why you couldnt just wear shorts and super light jackets or vests to get the look you want without dying in summer. loose tops with exposed leg gives a similar shape to what i see posted here, even thin tights under a lightweight dress could keep someone cool.

>>8254208
None of these look witchy to me, but like goths who couldn't decide on an outfit and just decided to wear half their wardrobe at once. I honestly think that mori looks more witchy than this.

>>8255953
in all fairness this thread had already hit bump limit and was on page seven when i started dumping. i see nothing wrong with contributing potentially inspo-y shit when the thread's dying anyway.

>nobody asked you to

like seriously? if people only posted images (on an imageboard btw) when they were asked to there would be no decent content. worst case scenario you have to scroll past a few pictures to get back to the discussion, and maybe somebody sees one and likes it. it's not like i'm shitposting to image limit here.

also >>8255701, >>8255694, and >>8255700 are cgl af nigga what r u talking about

Why white people are so weird ?
Fuck their only priority in life is to be retard as hell or what

I mean come on kill yourselves fucking weeaboos

>goofninja
>in 2k15

lmao

>>8254519
Dude in greyscale on the right is the only one that looks decent.

>>8254560
>Red lipstick says "cunt" like nothing else.
Haha what.

>>8254540
Nothing like stream. Google "nu goth". It look a exactly like nu goth, and it's a fine outfit if that's what you're going for. I suggest changing the hair, not because I'm inherently anti-dyed hair but because your dye job doesn't look great, and getting differently-shaped sunglasses.

>>8233652
Is there any group of people that deserves death more then cybergoths? Seriously, I tend to see myself as openminded, but fuck, holocaust now, pls.

>>8256666
quads confirms

yeah, dreads and a bindi? double whammy of white fuckery

>>8234526

fucking adorable

>>8256666
They're not cybergoth, although I agree they look awfuln

>>8233648
we used to be able to talk about gothninja on /fa/ and then all the losers from mfa flooded back in talkin about watches and suits and shit