/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

that mask tickles my inner little girl, I want one

I'm reading conflicting information about lactic acid masks/peels- I'm lactose intolerant and assumed that as that has to do with the gut, lactic facial treatments would have no effect but I've read a few things claiming they've led to skin irritation/breakouts. Any experience?

>>8205056
Skin irritation will have nothing to do with your lactose intolerance, just whether you have sensitive skin. Lactose intolerance is because you can't digest the sugar, ain't any of that happening on your face, and the chemical compounds are completely different

Can anyone recommend some good wrinkle creams? I'm looking for treatment rather than prevention - my undereye area is beginning to break out in fine lines when I smile.

>tfw I'm only 24 and dealing with this shit

I've been following the skin care threads for a while and this week I decided to take some tips and put them to use.
I have acne and lots of scars from it and other skin problems I had when I was younger. I can deal with most scars but the constant acne breakouts were becoming too much of a self esteem killer. Whenever I managed to dry out a breakout and it began to heal, a new one would be surfacing.
I've tried loads of different creams, cleansers and scrubbing creams. After reading about witch hazel and 100% tea tree oil (I used tea tree oil before but it was always products with it), I picked up some in the begining of the week (so, a couple days ago). Also picked up zinc & castor oil cream.
I don't know if I'm just being too hopeful but my skin already looks and feels so much better in just two days..?? Is this is even possible? On monday, the pimples looked infected as hell (some were more like open wounds, since I have the horrible habit of trying to pop them. Trying my best to stop), red, pretty big bumps. Today (wednesday), they are red but only a little, no bump, no white head, pus, anything, they're visibly healing. I can't feel any new bump yet either.

It's probably way too early to take any conclusions so fast but it makes me feel pretty happy that in just a couple days my skin feels so much better.

Thank you cgl

>>8205418
What routine are you using with those products, or how did you include them into your previous routine?

>>8205234
Drink more.

>>8205423
I didn't have much of a routine these past couple months, everything I tried just wasn't doing anything. The only thing from my previous "routine" that I use is a gentle face scrub from Neutrogena, once a week.
Like I said, I only started on monday (so it's early to say this really works for me 100%) but I've been using the witch hazel to clean my face and apply the tea tree to pimples, in the morning. I've applied the tea tree again on the pimples that were more severe again in the afternoon, when I get back home. At night, I've been cleaning my face once more with the witch hazel to get rid of any dirty accumulated during the day, before going to bed and apply a thin layer of zinc & castor oil cream right after and leave it to sink in through the night.
Now I'm going to see how my skin keeps reacting and adapt the routine. My priority was to dry out and speed up the healing process, which succeeded.

I'm heading to Lush tomorrow to pick-up some birthday gifts, but figured I'd pick some stuff out to try for the first time myself skincare wise. Are there any facial washes or moisturizers that are worth buying? I've only been there once, so I don't really know what's decent or not.

I have some heavily settled black heads that have probably been there for years.
I've tried biore strips, home honey +cinnamon, honey +milk, cotton strips remedies.
Certain scrubs, homemade sugar scrubs, ect.
None of it is seemingly taking care of it. Now that i've been to the derm. my face is all just but healed except for my hairline scars. Should I wait to go back to the derm. and see if she has anything for it? Or is there something I haven't tried yet?
My nose and chin are the last places on my face I need to clear up.

>>8205629
biore strips acutally tears off a layer of skin thus making more space for blackheads. The ways I got rid of my black heads is to steam your face then carefully squeeze them out. Let the face cool down and apply ice to close the pore. Also in the shower I use an apricot scrub and just on my face in general and it works miracles.

>>8205641
There's so many of them though..
Guess I have no choice. Biore strips also fucked up my face and made a few of them scar over. I'll have to wait til the scabs heal or work around them.
I think they did more harm than anything.

>>8205629
Salicylic acid peels?

Oh lordy this whole thread is a nightmare. I don't usually recommend reddit but please go to /r/skincareaddiction or /r/asianbeauty and learn yourselves some proper care.

recommendations for a moisturizer for normal to oily acne prone skin? currently i just use aloe vera gel but it's not moisturizing enough and i don't like the shiny film it leaves

i'm considering the benton snail bee steam cream. anyone have experience with this, or other ideas?

>>8206470
I actually agree, /r/skincareaddiction is extremely helpful.

>>8205550
Witch hazel is generally used as an after cleansing toner, I don't believe it can really be used as a cleanser. I'd recommend using an actual facial cleanser, followed by the witch hazel as a toner, as opposed to just "cleansing" with the witch hazel.

>>8205618
I've heard Ultrabland was an actually decent wash from LUSH, since most are loaded with irritants/essential oils/fragrance.

>>8205618
grease lightning is a pretty popular spot treatment, if you get pimples

>>8205234
>24
Hey I am in a group of 20 yr olds and I notice those fine lines on them.

>>8205550
I'm not sure if I'm reading correct.. you only cleanse your face once a week?..

>>8206470
I wish I could like the reading format.. I'll try to read there more often.

>>8207347
Even people under 18 get wrinkles sometimes, 24 really isn't that bad!

>>8206800
It says on the bottle that it can be used as a cleanser so I'm not sure. Any cleanser you'd recommend?

>>8207347
No, I said I scrub my face once a week

My recent order, I have acne prone, combination skin with big pores. I'm also awaiting for the rose petal witch hazel toner.

Hopefully I didn't fuck up with my choices too badly...

i have genetic dark circles under my eyes like pic related. i've had them for years and they don't seem to go away with sleep. even with layers of concealer they still show. i'm pale so that doesn't help either. have any of you guys had luck decreasing the intensity of dark circles like this? if you could offer any methods or products i'd appreciate it, i'm really insecure about them.

>>8207516
Do you know the pH of the cleansing foam?

>>8207488
Depends on what your skin type is like, really. Whether it's dry, or oily, or sensitive, etc.

>>8207987
I tried to google it, anon (not OP, but still), and I couldn't find anything other than websites selling it claiming it to have a pH of 5.5.

>>8207652
How's your water intake?

>>8207652
I've had very purple dark circles since childhood; I've accepted that they're just a part of my skin now. I have all kind of pigmentation variances on my face so concealer works wonders. You may want to use a more yellow-toned base to counteract the purple. I can try to do a demo for you and take photos of how I cover mine, if you like.

>>8208100
Go to /r/asianbeauty. They have a database of asian cleanser pH levels to weed out those that damage skin barriers (ie most)

Do any of you get facials regularly? Like monthly or bi monthly. Is it possible to learn how to do it on a friend at home?

>>8208152
I give facials for my work, they're are pretty easy to learn but it *might* be a pain in the ass for you to get ahold of effective product for them.

>>8208138
Yeah, I know-- I just went and checked. That cleanser has a pH of 9.5? Ouch.

>>8207652
>>8208129
Ive heard this helps conceal better dark circles or puple black spots.

>>8207652
I have the same problem as you. Just annoying dark circles that never go away no matter how much water I drink or sleep I get. (actually needing about 14hrs a night for them to fade away)
If you're wanting to try something cheap and figure out what you need to do to conceal I suggest E.L.F's all over cover stick:
http://www.eyeslipsface.com/elf/face/concealer/all_over_cover_stick

It's cheap and works pretty well, as long as the skin under your eyes isn't super dry. It creases a bit but if you don't cake it on you're fine.
That being said it's not as good as high end products but it's pretty good and doesn't oxidize or clog my pores.
Good luck!

>>8208152
Well you better take your friend out to dinner first

>>8208192
op here. That's depressing, since I chose this due to the company's claim of ph of 5.5. I guess I should've checked personal reviews...

I'm wondering if the witch hazel toner will bring the ph down?

>>8208332
Test it again when it comes in. They may have messed up a batch or something. I think both Mizon and Cosrx have toners that can adjust the pH when used after it that are well reviewed. I've been lame and stuck with Hada Labo cleanser.

>>8208332
>>8208345
I agree-- test it whenever it comes in. But, 9.5 is the pH bar soap would be at-- it's rather damaging to the acid mantle of your skin. I'm unsure if something like witch hazel would balance it out enough for it to be at a healthy pH.

>>8206800
>>8206809
Thanks! I'll probably end up picking them both up and giving them a try. (Grease Lightning especially, the reviews look hopeful)

>>8208310
honestly, my bf and i want to learn how to do it on each other. i've gotten him into my skincare routine... haha.

>>8208178
could you explain? i thought facials are basically exfoliate, steam, extraction, massage, mask, remove mask?

I just bought HadoLabo HLA cream and it's probably the best cream I've used. I have really dry skin constantly but it's made it so much better in just a few days, and just looks more plump and glowy. I also got DHA Pore Cleansing Oil which is probably helping. It's not great if you're just using it as a make up remover, but it feels really nice and I think it's helping with not drying my skin out.

I also got a couple creams from my sister by a brand called Carley, they use essential oils and stuff. The Daytime and Midnight moisturizers for acne prone skin seem to be helping a lot, and the green tea spot cream is awesome.

Just waiting for the Tonymoly panda eye sticks from Ebay now, and Cure Natural Aqua gel. Anyone ever use either of those?

>tfw fantastic genetics means that I'll never get crows feet/nasolabial folds and have nigh invisible pores.
>Almost makes up for hacing hereditary undereye circles.

As far as pimples, etc, my skin has improved significantly sincr I stopped constantly fucking around with cleansers/creams/treatments.
I wash makeup off with a Dove moisturiser bar every night and smear some pure rose hip oil around.

Which brands would you rec for skin brightening? I will go to Toronto this May and hope to find something locally.

>>8207516
What website is this?

>>8208960
tfw
>no acne whatsoever
>skin dry as the sahara desert
>nasolabial folds since birth
>granny eyelids at 21
thanks obama

>>8209155
beautynet korea. I like it because of free shipping and the regular discounts.

>>8207516
I'm so curious about the wine line by Innisfree, please keep us posted!

I love that BB Cream though, I have used Skin 79, Skin food, Maybelline, Etude House, Lioele BB Creams.. none of them was as good as that one. Just my experience though! Me and at least one other person keeps shilling that line.

>>8208178
Can you please talk about them? I probably live across the world from you so you won't be losing business from me haha

>>8209318
Sure thing! I brought the wine scrub to use an exfoliator after hearing a few good reviews.

And its good to know another person who vouches for this BB! Someone suggested it to me in the previous thread so I brought it.

>get PC 1% BHA gel
>face feels soft and best that it's ever been after an hour of it sitting on my face
>wake up next day any my face returns to rough, greasy skin with micro pimples
Why is this...

Why do you guys buy korean/japanese products?
You can't test them, you can't smell them beforehand... This is an honest question, I swear. I just never understood why would someone buy moisturizers online when they can go to the Sephora next door and actually test the products before buying them.

Are face scrubs good to use? I've heard that they rip open your pores and it's like taking a pumice stone to your face.

Currently use tea tree oil makeup cleansing wipe (evening only) and neutrogena face wash (day and night) and an AHA cleanser about once a week.

>>8209321
The only time purging can occur is with chemical exfoliation (AHA and BHA)

>>8208960
>fantastic genetics

>am 23
>every person I meet thinks I'm in high school due to young-looking face
>entire family look 10-20 years younger than they are despite not taking care of themselves
>mfw effective beauty immortality with a healthy lifestyle

Thank you based leprechaun genes.

Only thing is I'm so sun-prone I could get moonburn. Going to be living in sunscreen.

>>8209342
Mild physical exfoliation is fine, as long as it's gentle (not that st Ives apricot shit. Use that on your feet). Chemical exfoliating softens the bonds but sometimes needs a little help. Don't do it too frequently though, but once a week should be fine.
>>8209324
Samples! You can buy a week-ish worth of samples for cheap to try. Or read reviews online just like with any other skincare product. There's a good market on reddit for reselling non-contaminated products that just didn't work for you. Korean skincare is at least a decade ahead, scientifically speaking, than the rest of the world, and Japan is working to catch up. And their "drugstore" level skincare works often just as well as our mid and high end skincare. I ditched some Estee Lauder for much cheaper Korean brands. My routine is a mix of Asian and Western.

How do you get rid of tiny whiteheads? I've been getting them just about everywhere and nothing seems to help.

I've been out of the country with a different routine, thick sunscreen all over my face, different diet and medications and nothing changed. I have no idea how to get rid of them.

>>8209358

I'm sure it's not good to do this, but with small ones you pop them and they go away with no fuss. Big ones would turn to a red bloody mess, but small have a drop of blood, if even that.

That doesn't get rid of the cause, though. Have you checked if any of your products are comedogenic? Check all the ingredients of your products. It might be the sunscreen causing it, so start there. Make sure your cleansers can remove all of the sunscreen and not leave residue.

>>8209368
I am popping them, but they don't disappear like normal whiteheads if that makes sense. They sort of stick around in a little crusty scab, and sometimes come back.

What I'm saying is that I recently went out of the country and changed my entire routine, so it's not possible that a product is causing it.

>SCA mods
http://np.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/comments/30hqgm/skincare_addiction_and_ms_beautyphile_present_our/

>>8209371
Vitamin deficiency has been talked about here in the past
>Vitamin e
>Zinc
>chromium
Are ones I remember for being more likely to be deficient in and affect skin. There might be others.

What are your favorites whitening BB / CC creams ?

>>8209749
Yeah they got massacred by the comments there. The video was so cheesy.

>>8209371
Did you change them all together or one at a time?

>>8209349
>leprechaun genes
gonna stop you right there and say that leprechauns are fucking evil
sorry, I normally have barrels of patience but it's just a pet hate

>>8209166
I lold, anon

Could no longer afford miracle Retin A cream :(...

Skin: Combination
Cleanser: Cetaphil (applied with a cotton ball)
Toner: MAC Lightful Softening
Moisturizer: Aveeno SPF 30

Once a week I do a Glamour Glow mask. Once every two weeks I exfoliate with the Clarisonic.

Face feels greasy, acne coming back. You know when your face just feels heavy and greasy even after you washed it? My diet is three portions of brown rice a day, two servings of something with Vitamin A (Carrots or sweet Potatoes,) two servings of Vitamin C (Oranges or Broccoli,) and the occasional fish. No red meat, no soda, no fried foods. Sweet treats like pastries on the weekend. Only daily sugar intake is splenda in tea.

What am I doing wrong and why do Dermatologists have to be so expensive D:...

>>8210594
Get an AHA and BHA

www.skincare-addiction.com/routine/acne_prone_skin

>>8210615
You are a god amongst gulls. The Paula's Choice Skin Perfectiong BHA sounds perfect! Thank you so much! Also going to try the Neutrogena Dry Touch SPF 50 sunscreen since I just don't like the heavy texture of the Aveeno positively radiant. Thank you, thank you so much!

I keep seeing people ask about under eye bags and dark circles, but does anyone have tips for getting rid of veins? I dont really have dark bags but I have some prominent blue veins under my eyes that I have to put concealer on all the time.

Before anyone asks, I drink a shit load of water and eat fairly clean, with little to no processed food. My sleep schedule is also pretty good with a few late nights from time to time

>>8208950
The cure gel is actually amazing, just like the reviews. You can tell it's your dead skin coming off because if you try to use it repeatedly, the white flakes stop coming off.

>>8210634
I have Neutrogena dry touch and love it! If the paulas choice doesn't work with you (they might sell sample sizes?), I use stridex pads in the red box (salicylic acid) and alpha hydrox oil free treatment (aha). The former I got at walmart the the latter at ulta.

Went to the dermatologist yesterday and picked up my retin-A today, nervous but in starting it tomorrow. I hope it works!

>>8210731
Wondering this as well though mine are green.

>>8210731
Sorry hun, I can't help you get rid of your veins.

>>8209324
I just read reviews. A lot of them are way cheaper for stuff better than what you can buy here, so I feel okay blindly trusting strangers on the internet.

>>8210731
You could use a needle to empty some of the blood, that should make them less prominent.

>>8210798
Are you saying using repeatedly, in a day?
Because the stuff that flakes off is your natural oil content solidfying with an ingredient that makes the flakes

Chemical magicians, very tricky stuff.

>>8210594
Apparently Retin A in the most absorbable form is found naturally in Rosehip Oil.. you can settle with that? And take your Vitamin A tablets (or just eat a carrot a day). Its better than nothing!

>>8211247
>>>/out/

>>8208104
Definitely not as good as it could/should be, do you think increasing it would make a difference on them?
>>8208129
I would love that anon! I'm using the same concealer I use for red marks (pimples, redness etc) and that probably isn't helping much.
>>8208203
>>8208301
I'll look into both of these, thank you! I'd be glad to pay more for something I was sure was gonna work, so far it's just seemed hopeless though so I haven't trusted higher-end products to be too different.

I have flushed looking face a lot, and I'm looking for something to help me be a little less pink, and a good moisturizer.

>>8209928
I'm taking a daily multivitamin if that makes a difference. Would it be possible to just suddenly become vitamin deficient?

>>8210136
All at once. Basically it went.

Normal routine --> in jungle so just sunscreen --> normal routine

>>8210594
Eat something other than rice, holy shit.

>>8210594
splenda isn't sugar you retard. and you're getting sugar from the fruits, veggies and rice. holy shit you sound fucking stupid.

>>8212210
>>8212217
anus zapekanus

>>8205629
These seem like sebaceous filaments, not blackheads.

>>8210594
Red meat has stuff for collagen and skin repair, can't remember what it is exactly sorry - do you avoid red meat by moral or do you just hate the taste? Red meat is the easiest way to get Zinc btw, and zinc gets talked about a lot here for skin health. Record your eating habits on Cronometer for 5 days and see where you are deficient - you'll be surprised.

I dunno tho, eating just rice + 3 different types of vegetable plus one fruit seems worrisome, unless you are just generalizing a more varied diet.
Like I would skip one of those bowls of rice and swap it for a large salad - mixed greens, plus a boiled egg, shredded carrot, tomato, vinaigrette and halved grapes or pineapple pieces if you're a weirdo like me. Put in tinned beans (not the saucy baked kinds of course), or fish to shake it up from the normal egg protein. Its cheaper too, which I can gather from your diet style would suit you.

Other cheap but nutritious things you could add:
>Spinach
(packs of them you can buy frozen for a buck, just dunk in boiled water to defrost since they're already cooked)
>Bananas
Well they're normally cheap where I am
>Nutritional yeast
For those B vitamins. You can also eat it as Marmite/Vegemite/etc.

>>8210972
I guess not get ride of them, but make them less prominent? Or are dark veins just something that some people have to live with?

>>8211247
Not sure if serious, but ew.

>>8211231
Reposting here in hope of more suggestions from kind anons

>>8212521
A good free alternative to Cronometer is InLivo, just fyi for all goyphone users

>>8206776
pls anyone

>>8212714
You don't have to pay for cronometer unless you're talking about the phone app (which is retarded btw)

>>8206776
>normal to oily
What you're looking for is products for "combination" skin.
I have it too.. and yet to find a product that doesn't make my skin look or feel distressingly greasy. The only ones I think I have had success with came from samples - one from Tony Moly called Appletox (I ordered this in to find out for sure) and this kinda pricey one from France I can't remember the name of, but it has a butterfly on it with minimalistic white packaging. Sorry tho, hopefully someone could have a more solid answer than me.

Hey guys, I have a problem. My skin is way darker in the purple zone and in the red zone I get pimples but is not that bad. But I'm really worried about the purple zone, I heard that maybe exfoliating my skin with a sugar scrub would help, any ideas?

>>8214555
Use a vitamin E cream or oil and a gentle chemical peel on those areas. That is very common, everyone in my family has it, and it's usually due to chafing (elastics, bra straps, sweat, frequent scratching, sitting in a particular way). I also have darker skin below my bellybutton and in the folds between my leg and groin, which is from wearing tight underwear.

Unfortunately not all of these things may work for you, but give it a try. Moisturise with cocoa butter afterwards too.

>>8212695
You could make your own. Buy Liquid Vitamin E or Vitamin E gel caps and mix it with some shea butter or something (or whatever else is in that cream). You could also try an HLA cream like >>8208950

>>8214555
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JFR61GQ

I used Sally Airbrush Legs which is like a spray on pantyhose today for my entire bottom half but I didn't end up wearing my costume I was going to put that on for. So i wore pants over it without washing it off for the majority of the day. I finally got home and took my pants off, took a shower to properly rinse it off, and now the front of my legs are irritated. Just the shins though. It's a hand length of light red dots. Should I be worried ? should i let my legs breathe by going to bed pantless tonight and tomorrow ?

>>8214555
is it summer where you live?

>>8215288
Yeah, I am not a doctor but I have a feeling when you shave your shins as compared to the rest of your leg (which has more fat on it) your blade goes over it and makes it more sensitive.
But who cares about what some anon thinks the reason is - I agree, go pantsless to let them breath.

>>8214569
>>8214718
>>8214718
Thanks! I'll give it a try!

>>8215550
Not yet, but I always had this problem and I barely let the sun touch me.

>>8215563
nah, see i asked not because i think the sun is causing the pimples, but sweat.
but those suggestions seem pretty good, hope it works out for you!

Ok, so konjac sponges are my life. I got one for like five bucks and after a month of using it my skin is literally two tones lighter. I also homemade a lightening cream with rosehip and lily oil, vitamin E and and a light concentration of AHA with green tea as water phase and god, my skin as never been smoother. It's usually really dry and eczema prone, even with drinking a lot.
I'm trying to make my acne scars disappear and it's a work in progress, but thank you gals for your advices.

>>8205653
I went to have a facial since I got a thing from my mother for a spa. The woman used two q-tips to take out blackheads. You use them to pop them out and they are less destructive than those little metal rod things and your fingers.

Try doing this.

>>8215780
How do you get the plain Vitamin E? do you get them from vitamin capsules or do you buy it in a bottle from somewhere?

>>8215831
I bought a bottle in an organic shop that sells things to hand make cosmetics.

Not sure if this belongs here or in a make-up thread..
Two years ago, my skin started to go bad. We know today that it's hives (if that is even what it's called in english?), but in the two years I've had this problem, my doctor and skindoctor has made me try out tons of acne medicine cause they were convinced that was the problem.
None of it has worked and has only fucked my skin up even more. Today it just looks like mild acne.
We still have no idea what has caused it, so all I can do is smother my face in moisturizer to keep it from getting dry and eat pills to stop the itching.

Now that the intro is over with, here's to the question part.
I'm a make-up newbie, I'm blind on one eye which makes it hard to apply anything too fancy, so I only ever wear it when I cosplay, and I only ever stick to foundation, powder, mascara and eyeliner.
Since I wear it so rarely, it's all cheap shit but I'm more than ready to replace it with quality stuff.

I'm in dire need of a foundation or whatever else there is, that will make my skin look smooth, even close up. My skin is pretty sensitive, and it takes nothing to make it looks grainy and greasy. Liquid foundation probably isn't what I should go for next, but it's the only thing I've really ever used, so I'm at a loss here.

>>8205641
Don't use an apricot scrub. Or any "exfoliating" scrubs.

>>8216046
Try BB creams. They're meant to work as foundation/concealers as well as have moisturising benefits.

Theres loads out there for various skin types. I think that the Holika Holika Petit BB in Clearing type was praised on this thread for being suited for acne-type skin.

Hoping to get some tips...

I normally don't wear make up, but i've recently started cosplaying and helping friends out with photoshoots (learning photographers who need someone to "model" i'm shit at it but it still involves make up). Even after a just a few hours my skin gets really dry/itchy and that evening/next day I get tonnes of pimples.

Is there some way to help prevent this, or something to do after I remove the make up?

I would ask what type of make up is best, but I normally don't have much of a say since it's whatever their make up people are using, but if there's types of make up that I could ask they use that might make it better that would be brilliant.

Currently battling about a dozen pimples between my eyebrows and all over my nose and chin thanks to a shoot a few days ago and it's driving me insane.

>>8216132
Try better makeup brands. I used to have a similar problem with eye makeup (specifically eyeliner) but the Chanel stuff I now have doesn't irritate it at all. I don't know why but it just werks.
Doesn't have to be luxury brands, just a step up from your usual range.

I highly recommend CNP Laboratory's Blackhead remover: it's pretty miraculous.

>>8205004
i have perfect skin gtfo

>>8216298
post pics

>>8207652
Drink more water. Retinol and whitening cream. Get fillers

Hey guys, I have little bumps on my cheeks and redness on my face. I'm not sure what to do. Also, I have a lot of whiteheads on my nose and I know it's bad to pick on them but I don't know what else to do to get rid of them. Any suggestions?

>>8216485
Try cutting back on sugar (including bread and fruits) and dairy. I know that may sound crazy and difficult but it will help. Lots of little bumps and patchiness is usually an indicator of candida. Any itchiness?

>>8216492
I'll try, I've been trying to give up on bread but it's difficult when the family buys bread and it's there. There's no itchiness.

anyway i heard sodacarbonate and water mixing together and washing your face removes bumps and dirty skin. Try also avoiding sugar, avoid soda, diary products, like milk, drink clean water if you can get destilled water or springwater from the nature. eat fruits and vegetablers and alot of raw malt corn and brown rice

>>8216485
Are they a little sore?

>>8216522
please dont use parfumes makeups and factory made chemicals yes, all those are dangerous chemicals more or less, they went on paper that david beckham parfume was toxic and the information was gone in few months disappered, whY? cause they wont earn money on poision if the info was there good luck take care, parfumes have own experience give astmah and and etc ;) good luck!

>>8216522
>>8216528
you're high as fuck.

>>8216527
Nope.

So my awesome maid of honor made me an Easter basket with some sweet nail polish in it, and the place she bought the polish from sent a bunch of free skin care/makeup samples (pic related). I'm kinda new to nice skin care routines, considering my skin is super sensitive and even "acne eliminating" makeup makes me break out. Any reviews on any of these or am I about to completely fuck up my skin?

On a similar note that I'm sure everyone in this thread knows, I've given up soda and started drinking ~12 cups of water every day and holy poop my skin looks so much better after just a week. I'm amazed. I just have to pee every five minutes. Thanks (Michelle) Obama.

>>8216502
Toast has been a staple of my diet practically since infancy, so I know how it is. Regular grocery store bread has an imperial fuck ton of sugars, oils, and preservatives so it's like dropping an atom bomb on your guts if you want to clear your complexion. I can't live without toast so I buy pic related, which is usually six dollars a loaf, but it's genuinely nutritious and doesn't deflate like an accordion when you squeeze it, so a slice is much more filling.

If you can't do without the bread, definitely cut back on extra sugar in the rest of your diet. Most packaged foods have added sugars so if you're not a label reader you should look into that. Corn syrup, cane sugar, and dextrose are the most common things you should avoid.

Drinking plenty of water is also key. Eating yogurt may help, but not if it's full of sugar.

So seagulls, sorry if I sound turbo retarded, but I have these... I don't know what they are, jowls I guess. They make me have a permanent facial expression similar to a basset hound's.
Is there any way for me to get rid of them and have a normal, even face? Or at least stop them from getting worse? Am I getting old at 21?

>>8214555
Are you sure they're pimples? It could be Keratosis pilaris instead. It's super common and is easily mistaken for zits.

>>8216081
Why not? What instead?

>>8217084
i have the same thing anon has on the back of my thighs. The bumps are a bit darker and sometimes i get blackheads. Is keratosis pilaris like this too or is it only white?

Also >>8214555 Ive been exfoliating after shaving, with sugar and coconut oil and i really like the results.You should give it a try anon.

>>8210798
Can it lighten skin too?

>>8216887
Are you overweight? If not, there are facial exercises you can do as well as surgery/botox for more serious measures. If you are overweight, bring your bf% down.

>>8217136
It can present itself as white, red or tan/brown heads as far as I know and there's different types. Basically your body produces too much keratin and it makes little plugs in your hair follicles and more often than not causes ingrown hairs. I know exfoliating after a very long hot bath will help, as well as using lactic and salicylic acids and vitamin E/D. It can clear up by itself but it takes years. I've had it on my arms and legs since I was 10 and my arms cleared up when I was about 17 with no help.
Just treat it very well and nurse it along and it should heal up faster, make sure to apply sun screen on exposed skin as to not make it worse. Good luck!

>>8217189
Oh! and I forgot to mention, don't feel like you're alone here! It happens to about 80% of the population and is most common in women. It's not dangerous, just annoying. But if you feel like it's getting worse or starting to hurt you please go see a dermatologist and they can confirm if it's actually KP or something more serious.

has anyone had a chemical peel? i'm 20 years old and ive had really bad acne since i was like 12. its not as bad now but i still have scars and dark marks from old pimples. i use stridex but it doesnt seem to help with the old marks.

>>8217189
Yes i get those little plugs in hair follicles and ingrown hairs. Ill keep exfoliating and start adding sunscreen. Thank you!

>>8217151
No, I'm a hungry skeleton I'm afraid. But I'll see what facial exercises I can find online.
My bf's mum is a lovely woman but good god does she have a heavy case of bulldog cheeks. I'm actually scared of ending up like her when I get older, she started getting hers at ~28

Any tips for flaky/peely skin? I've had this problem forever and it makes it difficult to wear foundation. I know I shouldn't use a toothbrush to exfoliate because it's harsh but it's the only thing that temporarily gets rid of the gross flaky shit

>>8216046
I really like Clarins Foundation. You could go to the drugstore and see if that would be what you're looking for. It's pricey but really smooth and soft, smells nice, and not oily.

>>8217373
You need a better moisturizer. Try something with hyaluronic acid. Also you can use something like Cure Aqua Natural Gel or AHA/BHA to remove the dead skin

>>8217385
I've been using coconut oil as moisturizer recently and it helped for a bit but now nothing. I'll check those products out, thank you anon!

>>8216485
I think these are called closed comedones, so you can do some research on that (reddit's skincare boards are surprisingly helpful)
Also, we can't help you that well unless you walk us through your skincare routine. Check the makeup you wear in that area, and keep in mind that even things like dirty pillows can exacerbate acne.

>>8216492
You should be more careful diagnosing people and encouraging them to embark on invasive treatments on such limited information, especially with a condition so wrapped up with pseudoscience and the bad parts of the alternative health community.

>>8216887
i'm in your boat, too, anon. doesn't help that i have a weak chin. both sides of my family have chubby cheeks (men and women). my mom got a chin implant when she was a teenager, but i don't want that. i actually got micro liposuction done in korea, and it definitely reduced the issue of one cheek being noticeably bigger than the other one, but they're both still big and a little saggy.

>>8216132
It sounds like you're allergic to something in their makeup or that they aren't cleaning their stuff properly so that it's irritating your skin causing it to break out. It's not worth it imo to keep letting them do your makeup if it's destroying your skin.

It might be worth it to see if there's anything in their makeup products that you might be allergic to so that when you do buy your own makeup you know to avoid it.

Also make sure you remove all the makeup thoroughly so nothing can stay there to irritate your skin. Makeup remover and/or oil cleanser and then cleanse again with your normal face wash. Then moisturize or whatever else is left of your skincare routine.

So I'd recommend getting your own set of basic makeup stuff and brushes and allow them to apply it for you if they want you to have a certain look for the theme of the shoot.

>>8217124
Chemical exfoliants are all the rage - AHA and BHA and the like.

>>8217145
If you wanna target spots of hyperpigmentation, I totally recommend this stuff: http://www.amazon.com/Palmers-Butter-Formula-Eventone-Corrector/dp/B009KPIIJ6

I think I sort of "tore" the skin on my eyelid - kind of like a stretchmark? It's sore and tender but I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with this, and what I should do to minimize the damage. I'll try not to rub my eyes so much!

>>8218070
Does anyone have any good recommendations for AHA soap/wash for face/body?

Bonus points if it's on amazon but doesn't have to be. Thank you!

I tried one with an apple on the package when I was in jp, but I'd like opinions on if there are better kinds~

I went to wipe away some sweat and accidentally pulled off the scab of a dried up pimple on my forehead.

I thought 'no big deal,' washed it, put some alcohol on it, and topped it off with Neosporin.

Now it's evolved into an angry red bump with a yellowish head and pinprick of blood in the middle. Hoping it's not a staph infection. :(

>>8219986
>put some alcohol on it
w
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Normally when I go out I layer moisturizer, SPF and BB cream for maximum protection. However it seems like my SPF (LRP Antihelios SPF 50+ fluide extreme) and my BB cream (Missha Perfect Cover) interact somehow so that when I wear them together they sit on top of my skin rather than blending with it, if that makes sense? A few days ago my mother wiped a bug away from my cheek and left a little bit of 'rolled' cream behind on my skin. When I tried to fix it I only made it worse. The products had solidified somehow and the more I tried to blend them the more little flakes/rolls I created. This doesn't happen when I wear either product individually. Does anyone know what's causing this and what I should look out for in the ingredients lists of future purchases?
I'm sorry if this is unclear, English is not my first language and I don't know any of the terms to describe what's happening.

>>8208883
Jelly. My boyfriend has skin so dry he looks like a desert rain frog and when I come anywhere near him with any kind of moisturizer he squeals like one too. For some reason he seems to believe that a skincare routine would make him look as pale/white as I do...? Even though I've had a natural moontan all my life and it's not caused by any products.

>>8212176
Have you considered a green-tinted primer? I've never used one myself but I'm thinking about it, since my face is like 75% blush as well.

>blog post incoming

i'm totally lost, gulls. i have really delicate (not sensitive) skin because of a medical condition so it really doesnt react well to manual exfoliants or too-large pimples. i mainly get papules and pustules, i have dry skin around my nose, in my eyebrows and my hairline that easily splits, an orange-peel like texture mainly on my cheeks but all over my face really, an oily t zone, and eyebags as bad as tomokos. I try and drink at least a litre and a half of water a day for other medical reasons but it doesnt seem to be helping too much.

so:
>good cleansers?
>best sunscreens for sooper pail delicate skin?
>gentle yet effective exfoliators?
>toners?
>best anti aging creams that ideally have no wheat in?
>preventative wrinkle treatments?
>am i totally fucked y/y?

i dont mind buying foreign things. i just want clear skin.

currently i use:
>morning
>simple skincare foaming cleanser (i am aware this is bad)
>olay anti-aging day cream
>avon men's eye cream
>etude house lash conditioner
>etude house lip scrub
>50spf sunscreen
>palmers lip balm

>evening
>simple skincare cream cleanser
>olay anti-aging night cream OR simple skincare sensitive night cream
>etude house lash conditioner
>etude house sleep pack (the orange-pink tub one)
>palmers lip balm

>a-at least my condition means my skin feels baby soft and doesnt wrinkle too much

Okay /cgl/, I need some advice on improving my boyfriend's skin.
He has dry skin, gets pimples and scratches them so they end up bleeding, and his skin can get a little patchy for whatever reason. I don't think he uses a daily face wash so I'm going to start him on one, would a medium St Ives scrub be okay you think?

We have different skin types so even though I know how to take care of mine, I'm lost when it comes to his, and want to clear up his face for an upcoming con.
Pls help, am more than willing to answer any questions that might be needed for more specific advice.

>>8220657
Definitely not. Dry skin and physical exfoliation sounds like a terrible combination. Cetaphil, spot treatment and moisturiser is a much better start.

>>8220303
You're missing actives like AHA and BHA, none of the stuff you're using is going to target pimples. For AHA mizon serum is good, I tend to get western BHAs though.

>good cleansers?
Cetaphil

>best sunscreens for sooper pail delicate skin?
Tried the Biore ones? I also like the Neutrogena sensitive one which is physical sunscreens only, zinc and titanium dioxide.

>gentle yet effective exfoliators?
Look for AHA/BHA peels at a low concentration. AHA should be 8-10%,BHA 1% if you're particularly sensitive

>toners?
Thayer's witch hazel seems to be the thread go-to

>best anti aging creams that ideally have no wheat in?
Not sure, I've just started using the snail stuff from mizon though

>preventative wrinkle treatments?
Prescription retinoids? Although they can be very, very drying and best usd with heavy moisturiser

>am i totally fucked y/y?
No but your skincare regime could definitely be optimised

>>8220817
What type of cetaphil would you recommend?

>>8220303
>good cleansers?
Get an oil cleanser. I use DHC pore cleansing oil but there are cheaper ones, they're all pretty similar. I hear Hipitch is a good, cheap alternative. It might seem weird to cleanse with an oil but it gives amazing results.
>best sunscreens for sooper pail delicate skin?
I'm not sure about this one, sorry.
>gentle yet effective exfoliators?
I agree with the other anon. Cure Natural is good but if your skin is delicate you still need to be careful. It's just a pure gel with no beads but you can't scrub hard.
>toners?
Either what anon said, or an Asian lotion (lotions in Asian skincare are more like toners). try something like http://hadalabousa.com/products/moisturizing/#prod3
>best anti aging creams that ideally have no wheat in?
Recommend the same brand as above. I've plugged them a couple times in this thread but they're seriously amazing, check out some reviews if you have time.

The only thing I can recommend for circles is a brightener and sleeping with your head elevated, they're mostly genetic. Also make sure you have a separate cream with acne fighting ingredients that you rub only into your zitty areas and a spot treatment if your skin can handle it.

>>8222148
>>8220835
thank you!

>>8220845
http://www.cetaphil.com.au/Products/gentleskincleanser.aspx
should be available in most stores

>>8220303
W-wait simple's foaming cleanser is bad?

Shit.

>>8223053
I dont even know what she's talking about.

>>8223123
foaming cleansers (the ones you pump out of a bottle) are generally very drying due to the alcohol.

On the topic of dark circles/bags under the eyes, is there anything preventative to do to keep them from getting too bad other than getting as much sleep and water as possible? Finals start next week and I just know it's going to fuck me up.

>>8223163
A lot of them don't even have alcohol

>>8223178
Try to keep that area moisterized - from using creams or oils before bed ( I usually dab some almond oil), and sun screen during the day (as well as a pair of sunglasses). Iirc, creams with vitamins c and a are good for repairing skin and common ingredients in eye creams. There's something of a misconception about retinal/retinoid based ointments, but I'll have to look up on it later.

Speaking of this, I think an anon recommend Yes's blueberry eye cream here for dark circles, but when I checker it out, I saw that it's just for wrinkles. I wonder if the depuffing/brightening is just a non-advertised benefit.

Alright /cgl/ are you ready for my nightly skincare routine? Are you prepared? Are you sure? Cus it's fucking ridiculous

First off my makeup has salicylic acid in it so that I can minimize breakouts. Then I use neutrogena's nighttime makeup wipes. Followed by their grapefruit cleanser. Then I spend 10 minutes in murad's clarifying mask. I wash that off with a steaming hot towel and then wipe my face again with Oxy's skin clearing cleansing pads

Then I go in with some witch hazel, then Perricone MD's pore minimizer, then alcohol free toner. I put on an undereye firming serum called Sudden Change and then I follow that up with Olay regenerist micro-sculpting cream. Then moisture surge by clinique (a very small amount), dramatically different by clinique, and then I top that off with olay regenerist luminous overnight mask. The final step is some undereye revitalift from L'Oreal Paris, then I give my skin a break for a few minutes to let everything soak in before I do those weird facial stretches.

It's a lot, I know. And I'm not trying to brag about all the expensive products I use; I'm lucky and I get a lot of this stuff from my friend's mom who's a cosmotologist and I save up for the skincare products I actually buy the same way people save up for burando. I also don't GOB the stuff on my face, I use this stuff in very thin layers so that I'm not assaulting my face and wasting expensive products. When I wake up before I put on makeup usually I'll just use a single cleanser, a single toner, and a single moisturizer. I also try and drink lots of water and eat really clean and that's helped a lot.

One of my new year's resolutions was to have better skin because last year my skin was super awful and blotchy and dry and I was always breaking out from stress and I just couldn't be fucked to do anything about it. I've been doing this exact routine for about 2 months now and I've never been more confident in my skin! (1/2)

(2/2)
I would recommend this routine to anyone who has dry, sun damaged, acne prone skin, but you might wanna tone it down a bit unless your skin is as fucked up as mine used to be. I definitely wouldn't recommend it to anyone with super sensitive skin because all the cleansers and toners I use will probably just make your face really red and irritated. My dermatologist says my routine is excessive for most people but that it's been working well for my skin, so don't hesitate to talk to a professional about what's best for your skin type.

On days where I wanna give my skin a break I just use completely natural products. A simple sea salt scrub, witch hazel, some tomato juice or diluted lemon/lime juice, and olive oil. I recommend that routine to literally EVERYONE like seriously it's so simple and so inexpensive but it still makes you glow.

Pic related. Some of my skincare stuff. Do not mind the coke bottle in the background friends I swear I'm only moderately messy

>>8223210
Thanks anon, will look into this

>>8224239
What is the pH of the grapefruit cleanser?

Here's my current routine for combination mildly blemish-prone skin:

Morning:
Hada Labo Tokyo cleanser (pH 5.5)
Stridex Maximum strength salicylic acid (pH3-4, the other stridex pads are not the proper pH for exfoliation, wait 20 minutes for pH to neutralize)
Mizon all-in-one snail cream (it's a pre-treatment, not a moisturizer)
Benton High Content Snail Bee essence
Hada Labo Tokyo gel cream moisturizer
Neutrogena dry-touch sunscreen

Evening:
Banila co. Clean it Zero (oil cleanser)
Hada Labo Tokyo cleanser
Alpha Hydrox 10% glycolic oil free treatment AHA (pH 4, wait 20 minutes to neutralize)
Mizon all-in-one snail cream
Hada Labo Tokyo hyaluronic acid hydrator
Benton snail bee essence
tarte maracuja oil

I'm going to add in a vitamin C serum in the evening, I just have to find one at the right pH with both ferulic acid and vitamin e (helps increase skins natural sun protection over time and stabilizes the vitamin C), another serum with niacinamide in the morning for skin hyperpigmentation, and replace the sunscreen with Biore aqua rich sunscreen. I just have to get some samples in to test things.

>>8224244
Don't put lemon or lime on your face, even if it's diluted, and don't use sea salt as an exfoliant. The pH of the lemon is way, way too high to be safe and effective on the skin (it does more damage than good), and physical exfoliants like salt only irritate the skin and leave microscopic cuts that only make any skin problems worse.

I used to be a big "natural" skincare person too but studying to be an esthetician changed my opinion--just because you mix it yourself from natural things doesn't mean it's better for you.

I use the clinique 3 step system it has really done good for my face and its a good value. I paid around 70 including taxes but it is A LOT of product. I had bad skin when ibstarted using it so i used it twice a day. My face started clearing so i reduced it to once daily, my face feels so silky and ive noticed that my face is less oily. I use the cleanser with my mia. The system is made to balance your PH, it is not for everyone, I've read people have had bad experiences with it but for me its a blessing. I also wear a buttload of sunscreen and their moisturizer bc its heavenly and I've had bad experience with cheap moisturizers. I

>>8224244
Two masks a day man?... You must be super relaxed haha. Whatever works.
The acidic stuff worries me though. There's been a bit of talk about pH lately. You can buy tester strips on eBay. I worry for you because the super soft glowing feeling might be a false sign. For example, swimming in or spraying sea salt in your hair can make curls perfect looking and shiny but something about the salt dehydrates and damages it like a salt lamp dehumidifies a room or some shit.

>>8224239
Neutrogena grapefruit cleanser may be a decent ph of 3-4, but it has too harsh surfactants that strip even good oils out. And the salicylic acid in there isn't doing shit unless you want to let it sit on your face for 20 minutes to actually work. Murads mask is sulfur, camphor, and lavender. So basically a giant irritating and drying concoction. Bad drying, not good drying. Steaming towels are always a negative. Your skin likes cool to very slightly warm water. Anything hotter and you're entering the world of broken capillaries. You can't "open pores", so that is pointless. Witch hazel is fine, hopefully yours doesn't have some alcohol in it. Perricone MD pore minimizer is a load of overpriced crap. It has a pH of 6, so the salicylic acid in there isn't doing anything to clean out your pores (not to mention that it has an unusually high alcohol content for what it is trying to do). Not that it matters because even if it was at the right ph to work, you're negating it by slapping ANOTHER toner (btw witchhazel acts as a toner) immediately on after it for some reason. Sudden change is useless. It's ingredients are water, egg whites (wtf?), and basically glorified dish detergent. Oh, and MORE ALCOHOL. The only decent thing in there is hyaluronic acid, which is moisturizing, but even that is way down the list.
let me read on your other crap and see how they are. Brb for part 2

>>8224239
2/2
I missed the oxy pads, but that's okay because they aren't doing anything anyways. They are at a too high pH for the salicylic acid to do anything and contain a fuck ton of alcohol. So that's I think four? products with salicylic acid in them that literally aren't doing anything. Olay regenerist is a decent enough moisturizer for normal skin. Kinda meh, nothing to actually hold moisturize. It does have mica in it, so your face will be artificially glowy. Moisture surge by clinique is also very low-quality as far as actually moisturizing. I believe that one is the one with unnecessary silicons, which can break people out by clogging pores (not everyone though). I hope you're using the dramatically different gel formulation, because the lotion formula (do they even still make it? They shouldnt) is horrid. The gel is actually a good moisturizer! And you'll need one since your other ones suck donkeyballs and the first half of your regime is spent sucking all the oils and moisture out of your face so that it resembles the Sahara on a good day. The overnight mask is another useless product, might as well just throw some lubiderm on your face. Would be cheaper AND more moisturizing. The undereye lift is also pointless, it's not doing anything. But hell, unlike the first half of your routine at least it isn't actively hurting your skin barrier.

Oh wait, I forgot you have ANOTHER post. Let me work on that one.
tl;dr: lots of products, none of them doing anything good.

>>8224244
Your derm sucks, which isn't surprising considering that most only deal with major skin issues and not daily product usage.
All natural is fine, so long as it works. Lemon juice is a pH of 2, so you can literally give yourself an acid burn with it, and I believe it is somewhat phototoxic too. Go ahead and Google "lemon juice burn".
Seasalt scrubs are great for feet, but on the face create micro tears that let in bacteria and unevenly exfoliate. But at least this is actually exfoliating, as your salicylic acid isn't and you don't have any AHA products. Olive oil is okay, but is actually (along with coconut oil) one of the more comedeogenic oils. It can clog pores. I don't know the pH of tomato juice offhand, but I don't know any reason to put it on your face. Then again, why not. It's not like you're going to fuck up your routine with one product: your skincare is fucked from start to finish.

Please at least wear sunscreen.

>>8224527
Lemon actually has a low pH because it's an acid.

>>8224638
I think that's what they meant and just mixed it up. But yeah, it and lime juice are waaaaay to high an acid and can cause Phytophotodermatitis.

>>8224644
Goddammit I meant low too. IT'S TOO FUCKING ACIDIC

>>8224625
freedom aint free

>>8224676
Neither is overpriced skincare that doesn't actually work! Big on marketing, verrrrry small on science.

>>8224678
yep, I've noticed that a lot of people have a very consumerist approach to skincare. More is better, buy a bottle of this and all your troubles will go away!
Going the way of 'everything you need can be found in your kitchen/backyard' is bad as well of course, not that I haven't fallen victim to the former though.
I remember that in a lot of these threads before cosDNA used to be recommended which is frankly better than just buying whatever. I don't know why people hate it so much here, it's a great tool if you don't actually think one number = instacancer as some do.

>>8224690
Oh and whenever you tell someone that x or y doesn't work or is harmful, they usually respond with either
>w-well I've used it and I'm FINE!
or
>stop telling me what to do, you're not a doctor!

RIP Reddit girl, you were annoying as shit but ahead of your time

>>8223163
I use Decubal's foaming cleanser and it's my HG for my dry skin. No alcohol.

I bought a pharmacy knockoff of Aveeno's positively radiant moisturizer and it really surprised me because I was expecting it to be kind of sub-par or cause breakouts. I feel like generics are usually avoidd because they have different ingredients but this one actually turned out to be nicer than the moisturizer I used to use (Olay for sensitive skin).

>>8224696
Talking about ieatbugs on skincareaddiction being found out as a shill or something else?

>>8224720
No, there was this mildly autistic girl from the UK here that did product recommendations based on ingredients and tried to make a (shitty) FAQ but the seagulls chewed her out like the trips from the makeupgen.
I thought she went to /fa/ but their general is even worse, everyone is simultaneously shitposting and shilling fucking accutane.
Plus her vocabulary was very distinctive and she used "lads" in every fucking sentence.

>>8224747
Ugh weird. I'm on reddit, but I was a seagull first. This is really the first time I started posting here (skincare thread) because of the windbag up top who thought she had an impressive skincare routine.

>>8224760
To be fair, she had good recommendations. She'd actually give you the ingredient analysis and several products to choose from, I think she really was just trying to help. Too bad her entire presence was just waves of autism otherwise.

>>8224768
I can make a few guesses as to who it was. Honestly reddit's skincareaddiction and asianbeauty are a million times better than cgl or fa regarding scientifically proven skincare. Skincareaddiction is in the middle of revamping right now because it turned out that three mods were using affiliate links, trying to move to an off-reddit site, and selling out to be shills. After they got outed and banned a skincare brand rep sent reddit the flier they gave them attempting to sell advertising for brands. So after they got the boot everything has been hell reorganizating. I'm usually on asianbeauty though since korean skincare is my shit.

>>8224779
>asianbeauty
I love that subreddit (inb4 seagulls light up the pitchforks), it's helpful for all the little extras in skincare to me since I prefer to get my stuff from the chemist.

>>8224825
I'm pretty much half asian products and half American. AsianBeauty is my home base, I love reading Snowwhiteandthepear's blog. And asian beauty's cleanser pH database is amaaazing

>>8224523
Jesus. You should post a picture of your skin.

>>8224880
It's preeeetty. Far from perfect but since I've started it's the best mine has ever been. I want the vitamin C and niacinamide to help with the dark spots left over from acne and the uneven tone. Really my biggest battle is always hormonal acne before my period, I've got it down so that I usually just get smallish ones near my jawline that don't grow into actual pustule zits.

Getting some moles on my face removed soon. Do any anons have any advice or experiences to share?
Last time I went to ask in a hospital and the doctor said they look healthy but refused to remove them because they'll 'scar' and 'they look cute on you anyway'.
I thought they did that with lasers these days, really. I just don't want something similar to happen again.

>>8206776
eucerin is good

>>8224939
It will depend on whether they have a pedicle or not. Nonenthless, they will leave a small scar, which is pretty ugly on the face. Better to have moles.

>>8224971
This is why you don't go to cgl for medical advice because you get fuckheads like this. If you're prepared then scarring can be very minimal to not even noticeable.

I just popped a whitehead and no blood came out, only pus. Is this normal, or did I pop something that wasn't a whitehead?

I've never popped one without a little bit of blood.

>>8224523
>Mizon all-in-one snail cream (it's a pre-treatment, not a moisturizer)

Wait wait I've been using it as a cream all this time, after my lotion. I'm using it wrong?

also >snail bee
All hail the snail bee

>>8224971
it it's lasered off it'll be practically unnoticeable if taken care of properly

>>8225122
blood isn't supposed to come out

>>8225122
If the blemish was primarily pus, then yeah, you might not have gotten blood.
Sometimes they need to be popped closer to the skin for blood to come out, otherwise you are leaving the little "core" inside of your pore/pores.
Though, I don't really condone popping zits since it can scar over time.

>>8225169
Thanks, anon. I had this pus-filled bubble on the corner of my lip after shaving; I'll cross my fingers and hope it was primarily pus

>>8225154
the snail bee essence has both snail mucin and bee venom, hence the name

>>8220267
not the scabbing anon, but why not?

>>8225154
If it works for you, do it! I've heard some people use it like that, but Mizon says it's a prep before essences/serums/ampoules. Here's their "order" chart.

>>8225176
We know, but anon >>8225154 was making a common joke amongst snail bee users.

>hail the snail bee!

>>8208950
The panda cooling eye stick is wonderful. It's the only thing that helps my tired eyes and dark circles other than a $65 algenist eye cream. It's definitely my eye holy grail. The red appletox honey cream is great too.

>>8225175
Ah, yeah. If it was really bubbled out with pus with not much of a red pimple underneath, then you probably came across a mostly liquid filled one.
Be super careful with shaving, though, it could have an ingrown hair that caused the infection/blocked pore.

Just took my pre-accutane blood test and second pregnancy test after being stuck in that one month waiting period limbo. Looks like I'm starting next week. Wish me luck, seagulls!

>>8217215
I do lactic acid 50% peels occasionally and once did a 15% TCA peel on my body for scars. They work really well as long as you baby your skin around peel time. I wouldn't do TCA on my face though, it PEELS, while lactic acid doesn't.

I'm going to tell a story about why popping and squeezing is bad, scarring aside since that is a given. So I used to have this nasty habbit of squeezing any blemish that I got. Eventually I developed deep laying cystic acne and that shit was very painful. After months of it slowly coming up and coming to heads I got stuck with all these annoying itchy cysts that were lying just beneath the surface of my skin and they wouldn't come to a head. They turned out to be filled with a little bit of pus, but mostly blood. These things weren't cysts but were blood blisters that were so deep lying that I had to get past all of the cystic acne to get to, and were caused by years of me squeezing. If one of these suckers popped my face was covered in dark blood and this shit took forever to get rid of. Do not squeeze, blood is not a good thing.

>>8225178
I forgot about that chart huh.
I'll experiment with using it as a pre treatment!

>>8225176
What >>8225182 said. I'm on my second bottle of the stuff, it's miracles.

>In the name of the father, son, and the holy snail, amen.

>>8215827
q-tips for blackhead removal? How does that work exactly? Maybe I'm being dim but I can't quite get my head around how that would work - love to try it though.

>>8225318
Treat them like separated fuzzy-headed tweezers and push

>>8224625
Cool critique yo, so why don't you make your tip top suggestions.

>>8225435
Nah. You need to learn to research. Go read some big words rather than marketing ads.

>>8225330
I've tried to do the q-tip method for blackhead removal, and I can never get them to pop out. Granted, they're the tiny annoying blackheads.

>>8225456
Those are probably sebaceous filaments, not black heads (although I do get smaller blackheads, I'm just throwing that out there because most people don't know)

What are you supposed to do with serum?

Here's what I got: toner, drying lotion (for acne), moisturizer and serum. What order do I slap this shit on my face in?

I got this Republic of Tea "Get Gorgeous" stuff that's supposed to give you good skin. Here's hoping.

>>8224607
you sound like you honest to god know your shit anon, care to share your routine with us or favourite products? I'd love to hear more from someone that actually knows how much bullshit there is in this industry - it's so difficult to navigate all the damage control type advertising and bro science out there.

>>8225579
I'm actually this anon >>8224523 too. I'm partial to asian skincare, but I'll try anything that has decent ingredients. As I said before, my routine isn't set in stone, I'm still working with my skin (especially since I changed birth controls, so my hormonal acne will be affected).

>>8225551
Toner, serum, Drying lotion then moisturizer

>>8224939
I had a bunch of birthmarks lasered off. And a few months into it and they look like they've never been there. Don't let the wound crust order keep the ointment on it. It was aquaphor for me.

Is it common to have a skin "purge" when your skin settles in to a good face care routine? The past two days I've had some blackheads that sometimes literally fall out if I so much as touch them, and while I do normally have a few blackheads they're not like this. It's not hormonal acne either (I get that regularly and know what to expect). Once the blackhead is gone, it doesn't come back, either, and I haven't noticed any scarring or marks.
I know people on Accutane and other medications usually have a purge. Is this maybe the same thing?

>>8225176
I couldn't STAND the smell of the snail-bee. I had to give it away.

>>8225611
>http://thelovevitamin.com/6599/detox-breakouts-symptoms-how-to-tell-if-its-just-detox-acne-or-if-things-have-gone-wrong/

hope that helps

>>8225611
The only time you "Purge" is when on actives: Accutane, retinol, salicylic acid, or AHA (glycolic acid, lactic acid, etc). Purging should also only be in the same area where you usually break out (example: if you usually have chin acne and start having forehead acne while using salicylic acid, it isn't a purge).

Purging is a vastly overused word.

>>8225626
No, there are no "toxins" in your skin. Ignore that shit.

http://www.skinacea.com/faq/acne/a05-purging-vs-breaking-out.html#.VR9URnPD_qC

Is any of the Peter Thomas Roth stuff good? My aunt can get it for me free.

What are y'all's holy grail skincare products?

My last recommendation from the doctor and dermatologist is non antibacterial liquid dial soap; I have to scrub and rinse for about ten minutes with it.

I won't lie that it has helped my skin condition. It is however horribly drying. I've been wanting to try out a retinol cream yet I don't feel it would be the best being my skin is already dry.

Does anyone have suggestions for a good moisturizer? Many that I've tried burned really bad; are there good moisturizers for sensitive skin that aren't too heavy?

Also, I too feel Perricone MD may be a sham. That being said, are their companies that specialize in face care for breakouts that aren't always acne vulgaris? Like impetigo and breakouts from MRSA and the ilk.

>>8224635
I wear sunscreen.

As for sucking all the oils out of my face, by the time I get to the end of this routine I usually feel almost over-moisturized. But by the time I wake up in the morning, my skin feels wonderful. This is just what works for me and I believe I mentioned that I dilute the hell out of the lemon juice and that I don't recommend this to people who don't have a weird skin type like me. All I can say is I'm acne free, my dark circles are almost completely gone, my skin is super soft and glowy and my derm says there's nothing wrong with it.

I also probably should've mentioned that I work as a performance artist and thus I wear a lot of heavy stage makeup. Part of the reason I cleanse so heavily is because I have a lot of trouble getting the stuff off with one product.

I'll take everything into account as I edit my routine and try to perfect it, but for now it's doing me more good than harm. It's just a lot.

Tons of backne.

Costume is shirtless.

I have 1 month to fix this.

Any ideas? I'm convinced that it's caused by hard water, but I can't really fix that since I rent and the only hard water filters I've seen are whole-house things.

>>8226212
Yes, it is a lot: a lot of shit. Skincare isn't a middle school art project where you just slap on a lot of fancy shiny shit and get an A for effort. Our skin compensates, sometimes too well, so we don't realize entirely the shit we're doing to it. Your skin looks okay now, but I can promise you it won't sooner or later. You aren't even actually cleansing that thoroughly, just putting damaging and drying products on your face. Why can I promise that your skin will go to shit? Science. Because science says your products are crap, not me. The ingredients, the pH levels, etc. Actual evidence.

>>8226251
I didn't realize I had said I was a esthetician or a cosmotologist. I didn't realize I had said I was an expert on skincare. I didn't realize I had said that this was my set in stone daily skincare routine and it's not gonna be a work in progress. I also didn't realize that I skipped the part where I said I didn't care about my skin until like 3 months ago.

Oh yeah because that didn't happen. Rude.

>>8205653
PLEASE DO NOT USE ST. IVES APRICOT SCRUB.
http://www.etherealauraspa.com/blog/2014/7/25/why-apricot-scrub-is-terrible-for-your-skin
THANK YOU.

>>8209342
If you want to do any physical exfoliation, do it with a konjac sponge or a microfiber cloth.

If you want to do any chemical exfoliation, look for products with AHAs (alpha hydroxy acids, eg. glycolic acid or lactic acid) or BHAs (beta hydroxy acids, eg. salicylic acid). AHAs are typically for dry skin and BHAs are typically for oily skin.

>>8218449
Ausfag here. I've been using Avene Cleanance K, but it has salicylic acid (BHA) as well as lactic and glycolic acid (AHA).

If you are lucky enough to be in the US, Paula's Choice has a huuuge selection of both AHAs and BHAs that are fragrance free and generally good for your skin. Alpha Hydrox also has AHA serums, gels and wipes IIRC.

>>8220303
>good cleansers?
I, among others, live and die by the double cleansing routine (ie. oil cleanser then a facewash cleanser). The oil cleanser is used to take off your make up and the facewash is used to clean up. Oil cleansing will be something you have to experiment with (can potentially cause massive breakouts if done wrong!), but I'm using Sanctuary Ultimate Facial Cleansing Oil which has a mix of different oils. For a "facewash" kind of cleanser, I'm using Avene Extremely Gentle Cleanser, but if you want a foaming one, Avene also has a gel cleanser.

>best sunscreens?
I use La Roche-Posay 50+ SPF Extreme Fluid. Not sure if it'll stop you from being pale, but it's really good for sensitive skin.

>exfoliators?
You should use chemical exfoliators, especially if your skin is sensitive. AHAs (eg. glycolic acid, lactic acid) are good for dry skin, BHAs (eg. salicylic acid) are good for oily skin. Check to see the ingredients to see if they have either of those.

>toners?
Witch hazel is pretty popular at the moment. I personally don't use a toner, though.

>am i totally fucked?
In my opinion, I don't think you need to use so many products in the morning (but if that works for you, go right ahead). I get away with washing my face with water (unless my face is super gross) and moisturising/putting on sunscreen in the morning.

>>8226276
While the St. Ives scrub is terrible, that's a horribly misleading post.
She complains about everything being comedogenic but a lot of those ingredients are found in other (non-shitty) cosmetics and are perfectly fine. She has a terribly alarmist attitude that's very telling of her lack of knowledge on the subject and frankly just makes her sound like one of those hippie mums that complain how 'petrolatum in your cosmetics causes caaancer because it's a petrol derivate!' (It doesn't, and that's like saying water causes cancer because it's an ingredient in liquid detergent). Cetearyl alcohol can irritate but it's a perfectly fine ingredient to use because most people tolerate it rather well in the amount that's found in cosmetics. Same with SLS, unless you're allergic it won't do shit to you and the fact that it's cheap has nothing to do with anything. Gold flakes and caviar are luxurious and expensive but do jack shit for your skin.
3/10 stopped reading halfway down

>>8226263
Sorry telling a cocky prick they are wrong is rude. Maybe next time have a bit of humility if you are new to something, instead of launching into your "impressive" and "oh so expensive" skincare routine like some telemarketer. And THEN going on the defensive when I gave you an actual critique by saying "but but it's wooooorking". Well yeah, sometimes doing something is better than nothing.
I'm not going to do the work for you of researching and guiding you, I recommend you try reddit's skincareaddiction or these blogs:
skinandtonics
snowwhiteandthepear.blogspot

>>8226296
Haha yeah, that article was a disaster. St. Ives is horrible but it's because of the tiny walnut shells ripping apart your delicate skin to let in bacteria.
Avoid scrubs with polyethylene (bad for environment AND irritating to skin), apricot kernel powder and walnut shell powder (both irritating to skin).
Look for scrubs with hydrogenated jojoba oil (Neutrogena Naturals Purifying Pore Scrub, etc.) if you really feel you need one occasionally. Someone else mentioned konjac which is awwwwesome! I used to use the clarisonic 2-3 tines a week (usually after heavy sweating gym days) but I broke mine when moving internationally. And the clarisonic apparently can even be too much exfoliation for some people!

>>8226369
I also wasn't aware I was being a cocky prick. In fact I distinctly remember saying I wasn't trying to brag about having all of these products and I got half of them for free and saved up for the other half.

Your "concrit" which could've been "I think you're going a little bit too heavy, maybe you should try x y and z" was instead "HAHA LOOK AT THIS DUMB BITCH EVERYONE LOOK AT HOW SMART I AM FOR CALLING HER OUT" and despite that I DID say I would take everything into account. Why is it so important to you to be an elitist and tell someone who's new to skincare that they're stupid? Why do you care? We're all gonna die one day.

>>8226463
This isn't lolita, this isn't about opinion or "concrit". This is skincare and science, and no, I don't really care about the feelings of some bragging kid on the internet. Get a grip. I'm actually relatively new to skincare too, I never said I wasnt. I've been reading about it maybe 4-6 months. But I've been reading facts and science, you've been reading promotional slogans and who knows what else. I'm not an elitist, I really don't care what you do to your face. You could dye it pink for all I care, but your arrogance in that post was obnoxious and it was really fun to tell you how insanely wrong you are. A complicated routine isn't better, and expensive routine isn't better.
I really hope you're still in high school, because you're really sensitive and stupid for an adult (and I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've actually called you stupid, but maybe not).

>>8226495
>>8226463
>>8226369
>>8226263
>>8226251
>>8226212
>>8224635
You're both being childish. Fuck off and stop derailing.

>>8205234
Moisturize and use sunscreen.

>>8206470
Agreed. There are a lot of basics everyone should go learn from r/skincareaddiction before asking questions in this thread. OP dropped the ball on this one.

>>8209321
You might be going through the purging phase.

>>8215827
This doesn't sound like a good thing to do. Also, make sure that what you're trying to remove are actually blackheads and not sebaceous filaments.

>>8225632
anon....."toxins" in your skin is just another way of saying deep lying acne...as in deep lying cystic acne....

>>8225611
I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to purge while using topical products. It only occurs, like the other anon said with Accutane, retinal, various supplements (ie: codliver oil, vitamin a, etc) and the such. The reason with accutane is different is because it makes your pores inhospitable for bacteria and pushes all the gunk out. If you start breaking out when you use new skin products something is irritating your skin. Check the ingredients list and see if there is anything in there that won't agree with your skin, like fragrances and such, and keep that in mind when buying future products!

>>8225963
Cetphil, Eucarin, and Aloe Vera gel are some moisturizers for sensitive skin I've heard being thrown around in these threads. I like Cetaphil and Aloe Vera gel those never left me greasy

>>8226592
Then call it what it is: deep clogged pores, not toxins. Calling it toxins reeks of new agey pseudoscience.

>>8226405
>awwwwesome
please stop

Holy shit what is wrong with this thread. Every other skincare thread before this was so chill why the fuck are there suddenly so many childish assholes in here. I feel like all the usual lurkers just left or something and there's new people in here that are just spouting shit instead of trying to help anons, which is what we usual do....

Oh mannn ok so I just got a tub of African Black Soap paste (not the bar form) and Whipped Raw Shea Butter (also not a bar form) and tried it out. Immediate difference using both of them.

I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like in a week or two.
(I'm also using PC's liquid BHA to purge, which I think it going well?)

Anyone used ABS before? I'm really excited and curious about other experiences.

>>8226369
Her routine was bad but jesus you sound like a massive thundercunt. Get a dildo or something.

>>8226618
That's because of the reddit newfags that suddenly took over the thread. It scared the regular posters away

>>8226618
It's what happens when some newfag gets on the skincare bandwagon, reads the SCA FAQ and then feels so enlightened and bursting with knowledge that she gets the need to chide everyone else that doesn't subscribe to the SCA goslel.
Read >>8226495, it's a textbook example.
SCA is great! However, that doesn't give you a right to run your sandy fanny flaps around like you own the place.

>>8226618
Remember the simpler times, anon. Where we all had nice conversations about witch hazel. Some people used it, others didn't, but nobody jumped down anyone else's throat about it. And when people would list their skin type and routine, and other anons would help them come up with a better one.

>>8226638
anon that was two threads ago
the simpler times were way worse, I assure you

>>8226638
Yo I love the anon that initially reccomended that. I'm still using it, it's so wonderful and gentle on my skin.

>>8226641
It may have been two threads ago, but then the Fire Nation attacked.

Yo anons, hit me up with some sheet mask recommendations.
I have normal to dry skin, live in a very cold climate, am 22 and concerned about aging. Preferably something cheap, but I can manage with anything.
Thanks in advance!

So I read from Snow White and the Pear that any cleanser above 5.6 is considered 'bad' for your skin.
However, the cleanser I use has a pH of 7.5 and all the other ones I've tried broke me out or made my skin incredibly flaky.
The ingredients are as follows:
Aqua
Glycerin
Sodium cocoamphoacetate
PEG-60 Hydrogenated Castor Oil
Niacinamide
Sucrose cocoate
Allantoin
Caprylyl Glycol
Bisabolol
Sodium gluconate
Citric Acid

It's frankly the best I've ever used. Should I switch to another?

>>8226704
i read her blog and she seems very full of herself

>>8226704
Probably the only reason why she's saying that is because anything beyond 5.6 on the pH scale is leaning towards either neutral or basic and that could potentially fuck with your skin.

>>8226783
So I should switch then? I don't want my skin to be fucked with, I'd like to preserve its virtue for a while longer.
One thing that confuses me is that it says it's for dry/sensitive skin (which mine is) and the one that's more acidic is marketed towards oily skin (which mine isn't) but has a much better pH. I'm scared I'll fuck it up even more.

>>8226725
Where do you get that? She's one of the few makeup blogs I've read that didn't give me that vibe.

>>8226810
her blog reads like it's written by a self-important, haughty schoolteacher

>>8226818
You need to learn to read tone. She's a sweetheart.

>>8226793
I think it's because with oily skin you don't want to prompt more oil production? And products with a higher pH, while technically more drying, make your skin work overtime to secrete more oils? That's what I was told, I'm not completely sure on this. Someone please tell me if this is true or not

>>8226704
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VqO_uF8m4oKBzzk5ass37gHcjIk-_2Tv4W2KgJJmUQc/edit#gid=1844869261

here is a spreadsheet on asian skincare cleansers, with their pH values-- maybe you could find something there.

>>8227464
Don't want an Asian one, I was looking for one available in the EU. I've found one in Booths though, but thanks anyway.

>>8227474
boots*

>>8227474
It was just an option, it's not like asian skincare is exactly unavailable to the EU.

>>8205234
everyone recing you preventative shit like god damn.

I feel your pain- and I haven't been smart enough to get into retinol yet (it kinda scares me hah).

What works for me is exfoliation- I'm still looking for a good c-serum that doesn't kill me and my over sensitive skin, but people have luck with aha, and bha (some even with all three. but they may have skin made of concrete).

also extensive and targeted moisturization. I like a hydrating toner- like the hada labo regular one- general moisturizer, and a tick layer of the returning starfish cream on top of that in my trouble areas. (I also use a thick cream bc my skin is dry af but idk about you)

these have helped, and ofc if you aren't hydrated and trying to wear sunscreen you should- but you probably already know that shit.

>>8227628
You can't find it in physical stores, which is what I'm looking for

>>8216593
Do you break out everywhere? With all of these (and everything you put on your skin) you need to test patch them on your skin- I do two patches. 1) on my arm to see if it triggers my skin sensitivities (or sometimes my neck) and 2) on my jawline or chin (where I break out easiest) to see if it breaks me out. Do this for a few days (it differs for everyone but you know roughly how long you take to react), and then go from there.

Even with reviews from other anons none of us can guarantee that these won't break you out.

Do you have an idea of what ingredients cause you trouble?

>>8223053
High pH, for many people this causes drying, pimples, and other skin troubles. Cleansers with a pH between 5-6 generally are well received by every kind of skin.

Foaming cleansers are notorious for drying ingredients (SLS etc) but this isn't necessarily true of all of them.

However I believe the simple cleanser has a pH of around 8-8.5? Which would cause a bit of damage to many people's skin, even if you haven't noticed any for yourself.

>>8224239
Why use a clay mask every night? Is your skin very oily?

I'm glad it's working for you though, I'm just surprised you can handle a clay mask every night!

>>8227784
Aw shit, I just bought simple's foaming cleanser and moisturizer last week :/ I have been noticing a little bit of dryness, but I thought it might be the moisturizer because it's not as heavy as my previous one. Is it worth switching to something else? (My skin is a bit oily and I'm prone to pimples, i just want to find something good and stick with it. ugh)

>>8225728
I hate to say it, but /r/SkincareAddiction and /r/AusSkincare have really great product recommendations in their wikis.

>>8228234
Sca caters to Americans just like every other site

>>8225195
ooh you're in for it, did it for 4 months my senior year. side effects were hellish.

>insane back pain
>took me 10 minutes just to lie down to go to sleep
>arms and legs dry, cracked, bled
>no sun allowed ever
>peeling face
>stop taking multivatims bc throwing up
>Angry as the hulk
>permachapped lips

Anyone here have experience with homemade night creams? I feel better if I know exactly what I'm putting on my skin but if there's an argument for buying over making I'm open to either. Thanks!

>>8230403
You can know exactly what you're putting on your skin by looking up the ingredients

>>8230403
vaseline

I'm pretty new to skincare and would like to get some advices and product suggestions.
My skin is a little dry and I have many closed comedones and red marks around my cheek area, have had those for a really long time and would really like to get rid of them. I change my pillow case regularly.
My routine is cleanser, toner and moisturizer plus sunscreen in mornings and serum with vitamin E in nights. I also exfoliate and use masks 2-3 times a week.

Is there anything I can do about nasolabial folds that doesn't include getting fillers?
I noticed once I started eating healthier and adopting a healthier lifestyle my skin started going downhill. I developed serious nasolabial folds and I'm only 23. I feel great that I lost the weight, but my once soft face looks saggy and terrible now.

>>8231913
What new diet have you adopted?
I dunno, but for example some people "go vegan" for health and then miss out on sources of collagen found in beef and such.

I have two really deep, big cystic-like zits on both cheeks and recently they've been rising more to the surface. But they get so sensitive that even the slightest pressure can squeeze liquid out (like lying my face on a pillow, bumping into someone) so I just decide to gently squeeze the rest of the gunk out. Is this a bad idea? I already use this prescription cream that's been helping, just started using neutrogena pink grapefruit oil-free acne wash today, paula's choice bha liquid, drink water, change pillow case daily, and have a vegan diet. is there anything else i can do ??

>>8231924
Go get hydrocolloid bandages. They are sold at like cvs and target. You stick them on and they suck the gunk out and help it heal. Google hydrocolloid bandages + acne for more info

>>8231917
Not a specific diet, just snacking less and choosing healthier options ( spinach and broccoli instead of french fries, chia seed pudding instead of ice cream, steaming instead of deep frying, etc ). I still eat properly and drink plenty of water. I went from round cheeks and large eyes to droopy cheeks and large dark circles. It looks terrible.

>>8231933
oh wow, these seem like they could be a godsend
thank you :')

>>8231937
I have two slapped on my face right now. The ones I got from cvs are big sticky patches (not like bandaids, the whole patch is sticky) and I cut them to size. I hear targets are a better price though.

>>8231917
>I dunno, but for example some people "go vegan" for health and then miss out on sources of collagen found in beef and such.
People actually still think consuming collagen benefits their own collagen? It doesn't. It breaks down in your body like any other protein and does absolutely nothing for your collagen production. The only way to use collagen effectively is to inject it. And pretty much anything good for your skin found from animal sources can be synthetically manufactured or found in plants.

>>8232109
p.s. I'm not saying GO VEGAN but generally nice skin comes from eating lots of fruits, nuts and veggies and staying hydrated, when it comes to diet. Whether or not you add meat to that doesn't really affect it.

>>8232109
Sorry, didnt mean to say actual collagen, but the stuff that helps your body make more of it.

>>8231935
Aww yeah, then I reckon it's just a weight loss thing... I have the same issue as you, and I've still got 10kg to go.
Because you brought it up, I'm re-researching this stuff again.
There's no article or definitive evidence I found on the web that said minimized it for sure, but it doesnt hurt to try what gets recommended the most.
So far I've been including more soy in my diet (relates to the natto mentioned in this post https://www.paleohacks.com/fat/how-can-i-gain-facial-fat-19448 and how the phytoestrogens supposedly adds fat deposits that /fit/ and /fa/ tries to avoid because they're more interested in avoiding gyno and getting that gaunt jawline)

Remaining uber hydrated is another, I'm sure you already know this. I'm personally a little anxious about trying "facial yoga" like I keep reading about, or face massages.

>tldr: i dont know, and nobody on the internet knows either.

>>8205004
Does anyone know about the controversy with untested nanoparticles being used in in sunscreens?

And that sunblock is better for you than sunscreen? (i.e chemical sunscreens suck and they'll put you at more risk to burns than sunblocks like zinc oxide etc)?

>>8232716
>untested nanoparticles being used in in sunscreens?
only thing I've heard of is that EU and Asian sunscreens use some things that aren't approved by the FDA yet. But that's a non-issue since the EU has much stricter regulations than the FDA, they just approved them sooner.

>>8232743
>since the EU has much stricter regulations than the FDA
Where does this bullshit come from again?
Every regulatory body around the world seems to be stricter on a certain set of chemicals than others.
>Japan is stricter than USA in regards to GMO
>Australia is stricter than EU with some chemicals
>EU is stricter than Australia with flouride in water blah blah

So what really is the deal with nanoparticles, we have all yet to see.

>>8232743
And the latter one was that some chemical sunscreens are unstable. I say some because most FDA-approved chemical sunscreens are rather unstable, and the chemical sunscreens made in Asia or the EU are more stable due to those 'untested' ingredients being, well... tested, and approved.

>>8232752
>Where does this bullshit come from again?
The fact that their regulations tend to be more in-detail and lengthy, and the fact that they regulate even the shape and length of vegetables and fruits. Feel free to see for yourself and compare.

So, my dermatolgist's office just called me today and told me my derm signed me up for iPledge and that my bloodwork and everything checked out ok, and to go fill out the online survey so I can pick up my subscription for Accutane.
Except apparently I can't take the iPledge survey thing until I am mailed my login password, which will take about 5 days. This is utterly insane, the amount of hoops you have to jump through to get this stuff. Has anyone else had to go through this obnoxious waiting game, waiting on Accutane?

>>8226818
Just because you can't afford the products she reviews doesn't mean you have to be salty about it.

>>8234052
get the drug, then leave them a 2 star review on their facebook

I got my Thayer's Rose Toner in the mail today!! It smells so good, hope my skin likes it. I plan on using it after my face wash, before my moisturizer, does that sound right? I've never used toner before.

>tfw I finally find something that works on my crazy sensitive skin

>aggressive enough to clear my bad acne
>gentle enough to not dry out my skin/make my acne worse


>also really cheap

>>8237616
That's correct. Clean your face with your face wash, then use toner, then moisturize.

>>8237616
I cant wait to hear back from all you guys who went and bought this stuff.

I just heard in a talk about Korean skincare products (thanks guys, you got me curious) that some Korean girls have a Skin Moisture reader tool in their skincare kits? Anyone here own one?
http://amzn.com/B00RHP6Z3M