/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8199895

I don't know if I should post this in the BST thread, but I'm looking for that anon who buys replicas to make household things for a friend who wants to get rid of her things asap. I'm afraid my back search only went so far.

>Anyway

There's an event coming up soon and there's an influx of young/new comers in the community, and I was thinking about lending (less expensive) pieces to them if they attend the meet. I know that there have been some horror stories in the past, but I'd like to hear some recent experiences. Tips, success, and horror stories are welcomed.

Deleting entire threads here instead of pruning them, why? I understand if they are about specific people but the ita thread? That's a common long-running topic. Idgi.

>>8199964

Yeah the Milky Fawn thread got axed pretty quick.

>>8200014
I knew that one would get deleted. But the one about mostflogged is still up. A feels thread also got the axe the other day. Weird.

>>8199948
Ask for collateral of equal or greater value.

>tfw selling your old dream dress

I never wear it anymore and it's not my style but it kind of sucks to let it go.

>tfw rufflechat people are so print hungry they don't even ask to see art examples

disgusting.

>>8200022
I'll be honest I was a little bummed about it. Shit was getting good really fast.

"Hey whatever happened to Milkyfawn?"
"Oh I think she quit to pursue more mature styles"

"I am so sick of you people drama mongering!"

>>8199948
Never lend out anything you would be sad to see destroyed. If you have an attachment to it, don't ever lend it out. If you do lend it, make sure you have a written agreement of terms and conditions as well as multiple contact numbers (home address, phone number, e-mail, etc.) so that you can collect if they fuck your shit up.

Or, just be smart and not give anyone your brand. It's a terrible idea in general. If they want to be a lolita, let them save their money and buy their own shit. If they can sponge off of other people they will continue to do so until you stop lending them things. Newbs are shite in my experience, and there is a weeding period where the people who don't want to spend the money eventually drop out after the realize no one is going to pay their way.

>>8200132
This is always good advice. I definitely have a few things that are literally just not worth my time to sell. I'd get like $40 for it, so I'd rather loan it out (and possibly never see it again) to a friend who really likes it.

>>8199948
oh god no that just sounds horrible dont do it

>>8200127
Im not her but honestly it is ridiculous - I dont think there was any drama, you could see her CoF posts and lolita style changing to be more mature.
However she DOES still come on cgl and I don't think she cosplays... so? I guess this is a nice way to keep up with the comm without actually being involved in it anymore.

My boyfriend bought tickets to go see a wwe match, tempted to wear lolita.

opinions on wearing lolita to sporting events?

I don't ever rage on other lolitas, but I'll make an exception for this one. I want to call out on her bullshit story so bad.

>>8200187
why is she still going on about this

>>8200187
Bitch of course they called the the CARDHOLDER. When the sales lady knows your mother's number because you're such a twat you shouldn't bitch. God she annoys me.

>>8200187
>>8200188
Wtf is this shit?

>>8200187
this comment made me laugh harder than i should have.

its so easy to picture them having a poster in the back with one of chanel's plastic mask face pictures with "EXERCISE EXTREME CAUTION" in big bold letters under it.

>>8200167

Yeah there were a couple people who were like "Omg she had a shopping addiction and had to quit cold turkey!1!" It's unnecessary speculation but pretty mild as far as "drama mongering" goes, especially for cgl.

>>8200187
There's clearly more to this story than she's letting on. The part she's not mentioning is that there's a hold on the card, that requires them to call the card owner, or she's been in there so often that they know who she is and that it's not her card, or they know she doesn't have the money.

>>8199948
DON'T! I know you're trying to be kind but fuck that shit. They can make their own way.

>>8200180
wear something cheap that you wouldn't mind getting dirty if anything happens (spilled drinks, food, blood flying from the mouth of a wrestler, etc).

>>8200227
This. You don't know these people and have no established trusting relationship. They'll hold onto the pieces too long and when you try to ask for them back they or your comm will be like " anon why you such a bitch."

>>8199948
Lent a dress to someone for a small fashion show, got it back smelling like the worst fucking BO and they didnt return my ice cream ring either. I washed the dress and febreezed the shit out of it and that smell is still lingering.
What am I supposed to do though, 'hey uh, you returned the dress to me with skunky pit smells, would you mind getting this dry cleaned (and maybe lose some weight while you're at it)'
Wasn't a rare dress though, but it was brand. Lesson learned, so whatever.

>>8200256
Ask her to cover dry cleaning costs. Otherwise smother her in the smell of her own pit juice.

>>8200258
that second option is quite tempting

>>8200180
Don't, you'll be around 1000s of other people and knowing WWE fans they won't exactly be clean freaks. Go ahead though if you like soda all over your dress.

Can C be kicked out of the comm yet please? Above all else, for starting pointless drama?

So I know otome and lolita can be interchanged with SOME exceptions... would it be frowned upon to wear otome/casual lolita at a lolita meetup as long as it follows the same silhouette?

>>8199948
Anon I wish I had the faith in humanity you have. If you wanna help newbies you could provide advice or tutorials. It's not your responsibility to dress them.

>>8200127
Ok but realtalk where/when is Milkfawn gonna start selling off some of her massive wardrobe because she's got so many awesome pieces I'd love to get my hands on.

>>8200498
She already did dear little nooblet. It's gawn.

>>8200187
Ugh she already deleted the thread just as I was about to make a huge post

>>8200083
I'm having this feel, anon. In my more experienced years I'm realizing my first dream dress just doesn't fit me the way it should and that I'm probably just not going to wear it anymore. Sucks because I don't think I'll get much for it either since I bought with damage as a noob for probably more than I should have...

>>8200187
>people using cards not in their names
The rejection is deserved. Not accepting payment from a card with a different name on it is a great way to prevent identity thievery.

>>8199948
Some of us poorer lolitas who bust ass for secondhand brand would love to take it off your hands if you list it for sale cheaply.

>>8199895
What the fuck happened to dream of lolita? The shop seems to be completely gone, and all of the items
>inb4 don't wear replicas
I'm not buying one, don't worry

>>8200623
It's still here. hey have a clobbaonline page.
http://www.clobbaonline.com/index.php?p=1_46

>>8200631
I'm talking about their taobao page

>>8200623
weird, like 2 weeks ago, it was still there

>>8200521
Not all of it, all the chocolate stuff will be sold soon.

>>8200643
It was there just this friday or saturday too

Why did the last comm thread get deleted?

>>8200127
>>8200215
Starting a thread and sitting there debating different speculations and theories is definitely drama mongering no matter how you look at it.

MF quitting is old news.

>>8200492
Bump

>>8200653
No, she is mainly doing otome now where chocolate and cookies works perfectly. Those are staying in her closet, everything else is already up and most of it is gone. TBH her wardrobe wasn't THAT big and most of the pieces can be found easily second hand with the exception of a few. What exactly did you want to buy for your apparent MF shrine?

>>8200492
Use common sense. Casual lolita and some otome outfits are fine for casual meets like coffee or movies, but may be inappropriate for fancier meets. Some comms encourage other jfash, some don't care, and some have stricter dress codes. You're probably better off asking people in your own community what the general feel and rules are.

>>8200726
She's sold about 50 dresses over the past six months as well as other pieces and going off her wardrobe posts she still has heaps left.

I know the chocolate things will be up soon. I want her sweet cream house.

>>8200771
FFS she is not selling the chocolate stuff, shut the fuck up already.

>>8200776
How the fuck do you know, are you her?

After seeing that "How Much Does Lolita Really Cost?" post on tumblr I was floored, some of them were reasonable, but for the most part? Most of this does not look worth the price paid, Mahou Shoujo for example is a hot, expensive mess. I'm not a poorfag either, I just don't understand how anyone can justify spending so much on a dumb outfit that only gets worn a couple times.

>>8200779
>that only gets worn a couple times.
This completely depends. I agree that it's quite a waste if you only wear it to conventions or meets a few times a year, but if you wear lolita say, once a week on an outing, it's quite nice.

http://www.lacemarket.us/angelic-pretty-milky-cross-black-headbow/

really? 300$ for the headbow?

>>8200779
link to post?

>>8200779
She included her petticoat and all her accessories so it makes sense that it's worth that much.
And everyone reuses their accessories so I don't really see the problem?
It's not like you wear a dress once and never wear it again jeeze.
>>8200788
http://lemontree11.tumblr.com/post/114373481432

>>8200180
Make him wear Lolita also. It will make him a star.

Any pharmacy lolitas out there?
..Any...?
> ;-;

>>8200771
>sweet cream house
Same! It pops up all the time but its always mint, pink, or the cut I don't want.

>>8200779
What pissed me off is that a lot of the lolitas in this project were brought in because they are internet famous or are in popular cliques, not because they dress well. I'm sick of seeing the same faces over and over, bring in some new girls who can actually coord well for something like this. All I learned is you can drop $1000+ and still look cheap and trashy.

>>8200577
Dude, I bust my ass off at a minimum wage job for second-hand brand, too.

I didn't mean to imply that I'd willingly give away my clothes to someone. I just mean letting a new comer who wants to seriously get into the fashion try on the clothes for a meet of which I'm also attending, but then getting it back after it's over. This was really just a topic starter.

>>8200779
It was definitely jarring to see how expensive whole outfits are but you have to realize for the most part all of the pieces are gonna be reworn. Not only that, but once people are tired of their dresses they can get at least a portion of the money the spent back (depending on the condition/piece).

Totally agreed on that mahou shoujo look, though. Yiiiiikes.

>>8200779
$1000 to wear mismatched browns, off-white tights with a creme dress. Excluding the cost of wig and petti that's still ridiculous. I feel like the ones that are cheaper tend to look better, whether it's because they're being frugal or they just have enough self-control not to go overboard. Props to having the guts to go through with this.

>>8200779
How many of you calculated your own coords after seeing this? I totally did and I'm ashamed at how much I've spent on this hobby. >__<

>>8200834
Don't worry there was no hate. I was just thinking back to the BTB post where some anon talked about they were okay cutting deals for newfags just to get them on the right foot. I was like wtf, just because they're new doesn't mean they're special or poor.
I think it is a good idea in spirit, but the reality is that you should never lend something out that you're not 100% okay with not getting back. Because people are shady fucks and often newfags and teens don't understand value.

>>8200920
I'm still trying to figure out how that all ended up being over 1000 dollars. Even with petti and wig, that just seems extravagant.

>>8200779
I want to propose a lolita fashion challenge where people have to put together hypothetical coords under a certain $. See how fashionable they can be when they can't buy their style easily off a rack.

>>8201058
Somebody did that for a blog post a while back. I'll see if I can find the post, but it was during the Blogger craze in like 2010 (before Tumblr dominated, but while LJ was dying/being bought out by Russians).

>>8201050
Maybe she bought the dress second hand? It's very popular and sells for way over retail.

>>8200779
I wonder how many of the cheaper ones factored in cost of shipping/services.

>>8200810
I'm in pharmacy school anon!

>>8200779
there's wayyy too many factors on deciding the cost of an outfit so this is pretty useless. It defeats the purpose but I would have preferred they use the retail cost of each item.

>>8201050
Secret Garden JSK in ivory and brown went for easily $800 at one point (was super popular in Asian which drove price up) so very possible.

>>8200180
d.. don't do it

>>8200779
I feel like many of them are exaggerating the cost

>>8201102
its listed on the pics, most of the cheaper ones didnt include shipping

>>8200779
What did you guys think were the best coords? I thought "classic lady" was.

>>8200829
>brought in because they are internet famous
This HAD to be the case for peachie. Her coord was almost $200 to look like a disgusting bodyline mess.

>>8201270
Peachie almost always looks like a bodyline mess. She's nice from what everyone says and she's a bit cute except for the stupid ass face she always makes. She looks terrifying, like she's got a mask on and it's honestly the main reason I can't stand seeing her name.

>>8200810
>>8201117
I'm premed! Lets invite Misako and make a medical Lolita comm
>tfw my secret dream

>>8201270
>>8201295
I actually think Peachie looked cute compared to a lot of the others. Definitely not the best but not the worst by far. I was mainly referring to Cadney (the colors and idk lately the way she has been dressing for her body type has been sticking out a lot, especially with her shoes of choice with her leg size), that hoot girl, the mahou shojo girl (she is a galaxxxy girl I believe), and the girls who assist at fairytale boutique. I actually physically winced at those last two.

>>8199948
hey anon, if you leave your email i'll get in contact with you about those reps

>>8200779
You do realize that most of the time with most people these items get reworn in different coordinates and worn in different ways. It's not like everyone plops down $500-1000 each time they put together a new coord. Some of these items could've been bought over the course of a few years and then worn together.

A typical coord for me can run 300-1000+ easily but yeah, most of it has been accumulated over the course of 4 years and I buy in small batches with a new main piece every few months as I can afford it.

It looks like AP is hiring for more or less all positions in their main office.
http://www.angelicpretty.com/news/staff.html#ato

>>8200550
Thanks anon, that's good to know!

>>8201317
That would be interesting, ngl

>>8201024
I did for a coord I'm wearing to a con and jesus. Everything is offbrand and I'm not even wearing that many items but it's about $500, and that's not including any potential jewelry I might wear. Damn. I mean, clearly I know how expensive this hobby is but I guess it's a little jarring when you calculate the costs per outfit. I agree with others saying the cost isn't so bad though when you factor in that most of this you will be re-wearing again or will be able to make some money back in resale.

>>8201327
>I was mainly referring to Cadney, that hoot girl, the mahou shojo girl (she is a galaxxxy girl I believe), and the girls who assist at fairytale boutique

so, all of them?

Surprised nobody mentioned Lor's. I thought it was pretty bad. That awful blouse

Does anyone know when JetJ normally updates? I know it's on Fridays, but around what time?

>>8200920
I almost feel like going over-board is a relatively common problem among lolitas.

>>8200829
Maybe. It does get tiring seeing the same faces, but they're the only few who actively post shit online. If it bothers you so much, why not do something about it? If anything, there are plenty of people who definitely dress better than those examples, but prefer to stay under the radar.

Anyway, brand news are a thing. Nothing new.

>>8200778
Possibly chocolate theme otome is what her aim is.

>>8200779
As a curiosity, how much did you gulls spend on your last worn coord? I just calculated mine and I'm completely surprised. Counting the wig and everything else, I probably spent around 720 on my most recent coord with an additional 110 if you count the jacket. My poor wallet.

>>8201058
>>8201066
I've been exploring old blogposts and have come across a few from the Lolita Blog Carnival. (I am really sad that blogs aren't really relevant anymore and that I missed lolita blogs' heyday.) There's more than a few that put together coords under $100 (note that this is from years ago and pretty much everything is long sold out), but I can't post links to most since 4chan thinks its spam. Search for "fyeah lolita under $100" and you'll come across Caro's post--at the bottom of her post she links at least eight other posts on other blogs on the same topic.

Btw I asked for blog recs a few generals ago--thanks to the anon that suggested Chocolate Maiden; I'm enjoying her blog a lot. If anyone has recs for lolita-related blogs (active or not) I'd love to see them.

>>8200779
My normalfag outfits cost around $500 (mainly because of my shoes), not including jewelery. I'm not rich either. Do you dress in walmart shit?

>>8201577
I have a mostly Bodyline/taobao/handmade wardrobe with occasional indie and brand and my outfits range from [this is not factoring in shipping costs] $80-$500. I was doing the maths after seeing the tumblr post and I feel pretty pleased that even my most expensive 80% brand coords are pretty affordable by lolita standards.

>>8201327
You mostly just sound salty. Is poor baby not well-known on the internet and upset? There, there.
My favorite was definitely Classic Lady, followed by Cadney's outfit and that handmade one. But I dont feel like there were any extremely bad coords, except maybe the magical girl one. Her colors still all matched though.

>>8201577
650-ish, I had to fudge the numbers on some offbrand accessories 'cause I got a lot of them on sale but it's somewhere around there.

Looking back at the stuff I've worn, I range from high-200s to mid-600s. There this one outfit that cost 150 give or take, but it involved babby's first brand piece ($40 jsk+headbow set) and was generally not very good-looking

>>8201363
on that note, are there any science or medically prints in the world besides Wicked Queen Poison Cellar?

>>8201577
Last coord I wore was super basic and totaled at about $422.... not including shipping. Usually I'd have a wig to add in as well, but this time I used my natural hair. Honestly, I'm a little shocked. If I were not using first hand brand bag/jewelry it'd have been so much cheaper.

>$150 for JSK and headbow
>$20 offbrand blouse
>$2 offbrand ankle socks
>$30 shoes
>$130 bag
>$90 for plastic jewelry...

What happened to the time in my life where $50 for a Bodyline JSK seemed like it was too much?

I am finding that selling is the most annoying thing ever.

>multiple persons interested in jsk
>put up auction
>1 bid
>only few hours left

If you post a sales what is your preferred method?

>>8201388
Yeah, I cringed a bit at her blouse and tights.
Also, was a bit disappointed to not see Ashley in her full gothic glory. I've seen much, much better coords from her for sure.

>>8201317
Can chronically ill lolitas sit in on this? We may need you nearby for help.

>>8201388
I wish we had a primer on efamous lolitas 101. Because I'm not in a comm and I'm pretty apathetic about following bloggers, but I see these names mentioned all the time so I feel I should probably care. Or know what they look like at least.

>>8201577
I'm very simplistic in coords and a super discount secondhand brand shopper. So last coord was $200. Most expensive item in that coord was secondhand moitie jsk for ~$100.

>>8200810
>>8201317
Yes and yes

>>8201577
My last coord was pretty cheap. $15 Taobao hat, $25 Taobao blouse, $20 Meta skirt, $20 AP socks, $40 shoes, $30 purse, plus maybe around $15 to $20 in accessories, so under $200. I think for the most part my coords range between 300 and 500. The most expensive coord I can make right now is around 800.

>>8201694
I wonder about that time of my life too...The funny thing is I still have all the Bodyline I got when I first started yet I can't bring myself to wear them because they take so much more coordination effort to look good.

>>8201577
Most recent: $275
>Accessories $20
>Cardigan $30
>Shoes $30
>Socks $15
>JSK $120
>Underdress w/ petti $60

Casual is around the 200-300 mark, OTT is 500+ easy.

>>8201706
Omg a Lolita clinic. Made by Lolitas for Lolitas.

>>8201577
Jsk: $120
Bolero: $30
OTKs: $30
Bag: $120
Shoes: $70
Accessories: $15

Total: $385

The cost of my coords could vary significantly though, I have very expensive items and very cheap items. It'd be fun to see what the cheapest passable outfit I can come up with would be, plus what the most expensive would be.

>>8201625
This. Also, 500$ is the price of brand new basic Louboutin, a nice middle-range handbag or a good ready-to-wear mid-range coat. 500$ is not that much for a whole outfit you construct over time.

>>8201784
That sounds like a fun idea!

Hmm well I still need to get hosiery and a head accessory but I'm compiling a coord right now and so far...

OP: $250, new AP
Shoes: $30...? Old taobao I forgot
Purse: $70, secondhand AP

It'll probably be another $70 if I get burando tights and barettes. Gah damn. It's like I don't put much stock into how much things cost until I'm buying new things and I'm just floored.

>>8201780
Autoimmune related disorder over here! My house is a mini pharmacy. I'd love a lolita nurse or pharmacist (although my medication is an orphan drug and has to be mailed to me by a special pharmacy so I'd never see them!)

>>8200466
Who? Deets.

>>8201577
Last thing I wore was a quick sunday coord at a small con.
Jsk/headbow: $60
Blouse: $40
Socks: $30
Necklace: $15
Other accessories: $30
Shoes: $60
Bag: $50
($255 and probably one of my cheaper coords. The saturday coord was roughly 600 and about 700 for Friday. I had $1555 worth of lolita with me that weekend)

>>8201577
>$230 jsk Angelic Pretty
>$7 blouse thrifted
>$23 OTKs AatP
>$30 shoes Bodyline
>$15 wristcuffs AatP
>$20 petticoat
>$5 lot of 4 rings
>$1 earings
>$3 Headband
>$8 vintage brooch
>$1 necklace
>TOTAL= $348
And that's including shipping. Obviously depending a lot on what the main piece cost, but i think that's about average for my coords.

I've noticed that a number of Japanese lolitas tend to set the starting bid really low on y!ja. Is there a reason for this? I don't really see how that would benefit them.

>>8202108
Actually, I find that setting bids lower makes people buy it at a higher price more often. If you set a piece at $125 that usually goes for $250 more people will be likely to bid on it while it's low and then get in a bidding war and raise it up(usually way higher)

>>8201577
200$ Haenuli JSK
90$ Innocent World bag
40$ Floral Notebook Blouse
40$ Antaina heels
20$ cardigan from Bodyline
2$ tights from Bodyline
2$ beret from eBay
10$ eBay accessories (rings)

$404 excluding shipping. I was expecting it to be a lot less!

http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r125705437

This is the second pair of AatP socks that I've seen sell for 150k+ yen in the last fortnight. What the heck. At least they're not used...

>>8201577
Most recent probably about $150:
jsk $60
tights $4
shoes $50
bolero $8
hairbow $15 (it is detached from a hat so I divided the hat cost into two)

>>8201577
>$95 for JSK
>$40 for shoes
>$20 for headbow
>$5 for tights
>$20 for bag
>$20 for blouse

One thing I love about Old school lolita is that it's pretty cheap compared to other styles usually.

>>8199895
I just got this old lolita mag from off of ebay, should I post scans online?

>>8202187
15k is very different to 150k anon.

125 IW jsk
30 ss blouse
10 tights
50 antique beast headdress
65 demonia shoes
300 accessories (silver jewelry)
40 purse

620, but almost half is jewelry. I have a hard on for silver rose jewelry.

>>8201577
In AUD so subtract around 25%
>$250 op, second hand
>$180 shoes
>$45 vintage handbag
>$35 socks
>hand made matching headdress, ~$7 in materials?
>$120 necklace
($45 petti? I don't count it in the price because it foundation wear and I'm not counting bras, etc.)
This is all with shipping (split between items if I bought several) and shitty exchange rate. ~637
Pretty standard, though I often wear cheaper old school jsks which are cool too.

Gotta be comfy. Can't understand girls spending $400 on a dress and $30 on shoes.

>>8202240
Yes? And they went for 150k as opposed to 15k which would be more expected

>>8202274
WTF are you seeing? I'm seeing the ending bid as 15300, which is 15k.

>>8202274
Not that anon but i don't think you know what either of those mean. 150k would be 150,000 yen. Those sold for 15k which is 15,000 yen.

>>8202277
>>8202280
Oops, don't mind me. I'm sick and tired so my brain isn't functioning correctly. 15k is a lot for socks though

>>8201577
JSK: $120 from the BtSSB sale
Blouse: $30 Taobao
Bonnet: $40
Accessories: $60
Shoes: $40
Purse: $25 thrifted
Not including petticoat, shipping, or SS fees.

I try to stick to secondhand and sales unless I'm in love with a piece. The oldschool coord I wore before this was under $200.

>>8201780

The clinic where the nurses wear hospitality doll. Oh yes.

>>8202235
Which one is it and what is the date?

>>8200180
I think it's a dumb idea but that's just me. Substituting lolita in for other dressy clothes at an appropriate event seems normal, wearing them in odd places just for spectacle when no one else is that dressed up seems try-hard. An exception might be something punk and casual, that would be probably appropriate.

>>8202325
Can we bring in wreck'd itas for you to 'fix'? Lolita makeover at the lolita clinic, heh.

>>8201577
£240, and I had a minor heart attack once I realised I spent that much on clothes.

I'm a very frugal person, so this hobby is hard for me.

>>8202345

Ita rehabilitation centre. I like it anon.

>>8200492
As other Anon said, it depends on the comm. I'd be disappointed if I were hosting the meet, Otome looks too casual. But our local group is lolita-specific, and I'm the only one to even be interested in a couple of other j-fashions and I don't particularly like Otome. I can wear my other fashions other times, lolita meets are for lolita. There are a few other fashionable people here who want to start a general fashion group in addition to the lolita group, a few like K-pop, a couple are into Retro, etc. that's the best idea for other fashions. My 2 cents. I think it's best to ask in each group.

>>8201879
Me too! I'm in the UK so my meds are all here in good supply, thankfully.

I'm gonna ask my boyfriend to be my lolita nurse next time he's looking after me, that'll be hilarious.

>>8202235
Please do! I love seeing old-school stuff.

>>8202325
Damn it, the more I see this the cuter it gets. How hard is it to find? I'd better look into this.

IW hair piece $35
IW bolero $120
IW jsk $250 (MP$500)
IW underskirt $100
Meta bloomers $30
CP petti $40
Grimoire tights $35
Meta tea parties $150
Offbrand shoulder bag $60

Total ~$820 (or $1020)

>>8201708
Start a discussion thread on it, maybe? Ask which e-famous Lolitas people like most and why? That might be interesting for everyone.

>>8201577
Coordinate I'm planning for next meetup (fairly OTT with Marine Kingdom), shipping and SS fees included:
>$287 AP OP
>$10 lace tights
>$3 ebay ankle socks
>$30 Bodyline shoes
>~$40 AP purse from lucky bag
>$30 petticoat
>$15 multiple ebay bracelets
>$15 handmade headpiece
Total of $430.

Actual last coordinate I wore (casual French Cafe JSK coord):
>$180 AP JSK
>$25 Bodyline blouse
>$30 Bodyline shoes
>$20 AP socks
>$25 Loris bag
>$30 petticoat
>$5 hair bows from Claire's
Total: $315

I somehow thought there would be a way more massive price difference between the two, but I was definitely wrong. But it's easy for me to justify the costs because I don't have any other hobby that costs more than maybe $20 every now and then, and I wear Lolita at least once a week. At least I'm getting my money's worth.

>>8202361
Nearly impossible. It almost never shows up for sale.

I'm hoping someone could help me with this: because I'm retarded, I had the biggest brainfart in the history of brainfarts and put my Dance of The Black Cats JSK in water to wash it. I immediately saw red (literally) and saw the error of my ways. It has areas that looks a bit pink (I've asked a couple of friends and they said they didn't notice it until I pointed out specific spots).

If I choose to sell this dress, how much do I lower the price due to the damage? I'd post a photo but it just doesn't show up in pictures, but I know it's there regardless. Is this maybe repairable? Would soaking the shit out of it just make it worse at this point?

Also if anybody knows what it's worth to begin with, that'd be great!

Sorry for all the questions, I hope someone can help! ;__;

>>8201577
- $80 JSK, Shoes and blouse. They came from a large lot I won. It had 15 items in it and the total with shipping was $400 so if you divide that down you end up with $26.66 per item, or $80 for shoes, blouse and JSK.
- $50? White underskirt from Y10000 2011 Meta Lucky Pack
- $35? Petticoat? I've had it so long I don't remember what I paid for it, but it was bought during a time when I wouldn't have spent more than this much on it.
- $10 tights from Target
- $5 Rose clips from Claire's
- $5 Eyelet lace and pink ribbon - I handmade a clip-in version of the AP headdress.

Sorry I don't have any pics of it worn. So total is $185.

>>8202466
Minor adjustment, I went back and checked my invoice, it was closer to Y50000 so /15 = $33.33 per items, so bump that $80 up to $100 and make the total $205

>>8201577
jsk: $400
Accessories $200
bag: $200
petti: $100
Blouse $100

Still looking for shoes and tights.

I'll probably end up spending over $1000 on this coord in just this. I also have another aatp coord I've put $800 in I need to finish that I started a couple weeks ago but that's on the back-burner for the time being.

>>8202454
pictures? I'll give you a good offer on the dress. send me an email.
slechtvalk@ymail.com

>>8201577
Indie/Off-brand and handmade for a casual meet

>Jsk - $80
>Blouse - $10
>Socks - $8
>Bloomers - $10
>Head-bow - $2
>Wrist cuffs - $10
>Shoes - $30

$ 150 (before tax, shipping, pp fees)

>>8202557
>being this poor
>not wearing brand casually

> get comment on LM listing asking about shipping
> I'm in AUS, they in USA, shipping about $30
> get reply - ' oh I'm poor and this is my dream dress, will you take asking price shipped?"
> don't bother to reply
> few days later get LM IM, same person
> ' I'm interested in two things you have for sale, will you accept $5 less than your combined asking price, shipped?"

Bitch no. I'm not footing $30+ in shipping just because your poor ass can't afford it.
How is that any way beneficial to me? I'm selling a fucking brand dress for $80 and your still asking for handouts?

>Jsk - $65
>Tights/socks - $5
>Headpieces, about $15 combined.
>Shoes - $40
>Blouse - $30

$155. Not my last coord, but my next. Jsk and headpieces hand-made, off-brand tights (or socks, undecided.) Taobao shoes and blouse.


And that's probably my most expensive jsk because it's got a shit-tonne of chiffon layers.

>>8201577

Fuck I guess it adds up.
JSK and headbow $195
Overskirt $88
Blouse $43
Bag $25
Shoes $35
Accessories $18

Still need more accessories and tights, and this doesn't count shipping on blouse/bag/accessories/shoes. I have my petti and wig from previous things so I won't count those since Idk what they cost.

>>8201577
2nd hand Meta Jsk: $250 (including fucking customs and shipping, item is $150)
taobao blouse: $50
indie tights: $20
2nd hand Boz cape: $40
vintage shoes: $40
offbrand hat: $20
taobao petticoat: $20
offbrand bag: $150 (present)

Not counting the bag: $440

None of the items are specific to the coord and bought over a longer time span.

>>8202570
>implying you can't make off-brand look good

I have brand. I just chose not to wear it because it was for a crafting meet at a friend's house and I didn't want my fancier pieces to get messy.

>>8202578
I am super suspicious of people messaging about being poor and things being their "dream dress". At first I'm always like "aw...let's see what we can do" then about 5 minutes later I realize I am being bamboozled!

Offer a payment plan with 50% non-refundable deposit and see if their dream turns to a nightmare.

>>8201577
last coord i wore was for work yesterday, something really simple. judging by the other replies i officially feel like i overspend for some pretty basic shit.

>hb $25
>blouse $90
>jsk $140
>tights $35
>shoes $60
>bag $30
>ring $90

total: $470
everything but the shoes are from baby though

>>8202613
I invest more money in things I actually wear outside of dressing for meets. I'd never pay $100 for plastic shoes or bags I'm only gonna wear in (no offense) costumes for tea parties but I'm perfectly contend spending that much and more for things that I'll wear daily.

>>8202616
yes, that's how I feel too

I'll pay 100+ for shoes or a purse if wear them rather often and they are of good quality like leather. But plastic shoes and bags I refuse to pay more than 40 (not including shipping of course).

>>8202616
>>8202627
i know the feeling. i guess i feel less guilty about splurging since i wear lolita everyday, probably get more use out of these things than most people. i don't really do meets though, so i can't justify spending over 1k on a dress.

>>8202578
Speaking of Lacemarket, how long should I wait for replies before I get worried about a seller? I got something on hold, paid the non-refundable deposit without issue, then when the hold period expired the seller didn't message me asking for the rest of the money. I waited a day then took the initiative to message them, still nothing. Messaged them again yesterday and I'm still without a reply. They said in their ToS that they might be a little slow to communicate, but it's been three days since the hold period ended without so much as a "sorry, I'm really busy at the moment and can't get to the post office", and more than two weeks since I last heard from them.

>>8201577
Ooh, this is fun. My last outfit was a really simple meta one:
JSK - $240 new
Matching beret - $52
Blouse - $40
Offbrand tights - $8
Random accessories - around $5 (it was pretty simple)
Shoes, bodyline - $25
Total = $370

Here's a question.. what's the most expensive coord you COULD make out of your closet? One that looks good, not just your most expensive things thrown together.
I am planning one that's about $900, but I don't think I could get to over $1000. If it's the dress or some other item that makes it so expensive mention it.
Alternatively, cheapest coord you could make? (inb4 handmade lolitas)
Picture is stolen

>>8201643
Not salty, just sick of them using tags. I am forced to see them enough with reblogs as-is.

>>8201577

Last coord (rough estimates):

$180 IW Skirt
$120 IW underskirt
$30 Axes femme blouse
$120 IW bolero
$25 IW socks
$40 off brand shoes
$40 CP petti
$10 beret
$80 IW bag

>Jesus around $645....

Next coord planned for comm meet up:

$110 IW JSK
$130 IW Blouse
$50 MM petti
$40 Swimmer bag
$10 off brand belt
$20 taobao shoes
$10 taobao wristcuffs
$15 taobao headdress
$15 taobao necklace

>$400.

>>8201317
I'd join this so fast

Looking for a dress similar to the one on the pic, except bell-shaped. I'm interested in a simple non-print red JSK, maybe with white details. Anyone have any recommendations?

>>8202578
Anon, I'm sure it's the same person but there's been this girl around asking everyone for cheaper prices because it's their "dream dress".

>>8202360
>>8202335

This one
Let me tell you, Lolita is super tame compared to what other folks apparently wear yes sir

>>8202648
>Iron gate op $1300
>Btssb canotier $40
>Tights $5
>Shoes $20
Total $1365

I have some band shoes that cost a lot more, but none that would match that dress so i can't bump up the price any higher. That's the most expensive piece i have right now.

>>8202708
That is bell-shaped, anon.

>>8202726
*Good damn it i meant brand shoes not band shoes

>>8202645
I feel like a couple of days is permissible if you're gonna claim to be slow but if you have someone's deposit, you need to respond pretty quick to them... I don't wanna freak you out but I'd be worried/pissed in your situation, anon.

>>8202744
They had like 20 good seller feedbacks but now I'm worried. Especially since the "slow" communication was never more than a day when it came to taking my money, but now it comes to actually shipping the item they're suddenly AWOL.

>>8202729
Thanks. I'm pretty new to lolita and it's difficult telling the difference on some dresses. I thought this was A-line, although I was unsure.

>>8202760
Well because taking your money doesn't take any time to pack the item and bring it to a post office.

>>8202768
It looks like it might be an A-line petti under a bell-shaped dress.

>>8202771
But they don't have to do that right away. Replying to my messages saying "sorry, I'm super busy and can't send the parcel til X date" would be better than just ignoring it. And they still have to take the remainder of my money anyway.

>>8202726
Nice! What about rings and other accessories and stuff? That could bump it up a lot

Personally I was underwhlemed by Cadney's coord for the cost - it's a very nice coord, and I know she included pettis but unelss they're multiple brand pettis the cost should be low relative to everything else. Is the dress she was wearing rare or something?

>>8202722
Please post anon! I love old school. or at least post the good/cringey stuff.

>>8202760
How did you pay the deposit? Gift?

this seller i'm dealing with is getting on my last nerves. she is a huge flake and doesn't reply to me for a week at a time.. we agreed to meet in her city today to pick up my item and she bailed out a couple hours beforehand, when I've already made the trip.

i'm so fucking annoyed. i can't even.

>>8202868
sorry for venting, but what i want to ask is.. would it be douchey of me to ask for a refund? she asked to reschedule but i'm just tired of going out of my way with no results.

>>8202371
that will be a shitstorm so fast

>>8202648
my most expensive could probably only be

blouse $150
JSK and headbow $160
shoes $25
socks $20
bolero $40
accessories $10
purse $15

total: $420
blaze it

>>8201577
Blouse and shoes: $0 (won in Kota's giveaway)
Otks: $4
Fabric, ribbon, etc for jsk: $33
Beret: $3.16
Jewlery: Beats me, I've had them forever...$2?
Underskirt modded to a petti: $17
Total:$59.16
I was pretty happy with it, altogether.

>>8202884
Hence why I didn't want to make a post. Janitors let cosplay drama threads stay up, but nuke any famous lolita drama threads.

My friend is looking at classical puppets pettis, but she encountered a problem. They say they only stretch up to 76 cm, while her waist is 85cm.

Do they possibly stretch further than they estimate, or will she have to something about the waistband herself if she orders one?

Would any of you happen to know good western sources for loliable gloves? I'm looking for a nice pair of offwhite/ivory gloves to go with a classic coord but most of what I'm finding is costumey with cheap lace.

>>8202868
Tell her to ship it to you on her time or else, since you spent the money/time to get there and she flaked.

Lolitas are some of the worst flakes I have ever come across. It is pointless to try to meet up or do a hold without a deposit. Hell even with a deposit, my friend had a girl back out after sending in a deposit and waiting for like 4 months.

>>8202960
She could always just commission a petticoat. Melikestea makes fantastic ones (I own 3 from her and I love them all) and they're super affordable, too. just remember to convert the brazilian price to usd/whatever.

>>8201577
dress set (bonnet, socks, necklace)- $500
shoes+purse- $120
wig- $40
petti- $100
accessories- $100
total==~$860
I had bought all of the stuff for one specific coord, but will probably reuse all of it.

>>8202980
*on her dime, not time

>>8202832
Kay! I'll make a thread for it later

That book is a golden

>>8200180
fucking do it, please. don't forget your sign. HI CGL!

>>8200180
if its the match this weekend, holla homie. i'll be there in my casual garb.

>>8200787
I believe it's because gothic lolitas and sweet lolitas can use it. It's a pretty versatile piece, especially now that crosses are in.

>>8203138
>actually justifying this

>>8203141
Don't worry she dropped it down to a super low $200 kek

>>8202969
have you looked at bridal gloves?

What do you gulls usually do when you find out that you've charged someone the wrong total for shipping fees? Do you pay out of your own pocket or even pocket the extra cash and hope they don't notice?

>>8202648

My most expensive...
Let's see

CTP - 1400
Blouse - 120
Petti - 40
Petti - 10
Socks - 35
Tights - 10
Shoes - 150
Bag - 120
Wristcuffs - 30
Accessories - 10
>$1925 CAD

Is there a shopping service out there for babyssb? I've never used a shopping service before but there are some accessories I need from their Japanese store that I can't get in the U.S.

I've never used a shopping service before so if anyone can put me in the right direction I'd appreciate it

>>8203204

Yes to both so long as its reasonable

However to be honest I've never had shipping be cheaper

>>8203219

The Japanese online store? You can order straight from them...

>>8200137
For me, $40 is worth it but I have out-of-style shit that's been sitting arounda while that I could sell for $20. Once I drop the price too much (sold a few items for $8) it's not worth the time taken to go to the post office and amount packing materials cost me.

>>8203228
oh the Japanese store it says you need a Japanese bank and stuff

>>8203224
Is 18 dollars reasonable? Not sure if I should bug the shipper for overcharging me without coming off as being rude or pushy.

>>8203238
you need paypal. look up a tutorial.

>>8203247
I have paypal but this is what they say on their website
>【Important information for overseas customers】
>Since it is treated as domestic online-shopping when the delivery address is in Japan, payment will be accepted only through the Japanese bank.
>The payment through PAYPAL cannot be accepted.

>>8203251
OMG WHAT IS THIS?

>>8203240
Send her a message first and just ask about it. 18 EXTRA is a bit nuts, unless you paid for an expensive dress, then it was probably PP fees.

>>8203257
The dress was expensive mainly due to the currency conversion, but she never stated that there would be an additional cost for PP fees, so it was probably just a wee mistake.

>>8203251
All that means is that you can't use Paypal to pay for your order if your mailing address is in Japan. Overseas orders use Paypal.

>>8200779
Mahou Shoujo was pretty ridiculous for the price, yes. It's nice that they represented somebody buying from a lot of indie brands but that asymmetrical underskirt in particular looked bad. Peachie was surprisingly disappointing; I knew she'd represent for the cheap-but-cute but I actually thought her outfit there was much worse than most others I've seen her in in videos, yet with all the accessories she was wearing it still cost $235. I was surprised at how cheap that girl in a full set of bonnet, OP and socks was near the end. it looked much more expensive than it cost. Then most of the rest were just shockingly expensive to me. Especially >>8200920 considering it wasn't even that good.

>>8203204
I refund if I overcharged, suck it up if under. it's my mistake

>>8201058
This would be good practice I guess for people who don't have a wardrobe yet maybe? No interest since I can just coord out of my closet.

>>8202884
Why would it be any different than asking who your favorite youtuber or Instagram person is?

>>8203190
Wasn't it rare or limited or something? Sill seems high though.

>>8203287
To clarify, I thought the girl's outfit was cute but could have done with some different shoes and she "built" the coord around a hair accessory that wasn't that nice to start with IMHO.

>>8203326
tbh i didnt feel like that hair piece really flattered the coord anyways, something warmer would have been better? just my 2c.

>>8203251
>>8203256
The anon that responded is right to check their guide. That message is only for people that are ordering and shipping within Japan (domestic).

>>8202868
refund, don't even bother with negotiations.
Not in Aus by chance? I've had it happen to me twice.

>>8202945
what if some efamous people are janitors?

>>8202454
Put it in Dylon Color Run Remover, anon ! I had the same thing happen to me on Dance of the Black Cats skirt and the pink came out.

>>8201577
I made a thread since this post seemed to get a few responses if anyone is interested.
>>8203395

How do I tell the difference between a 1st release Dream Sky print or a 2nd release? I have the JSK in sax, and I'm curious.

So what does CGL think of all the Pastel-Cutie drama?

>>8203425
>dead
who?

>>8201577
None of this is even brand, and I'm still not that happy with the outfit.

Bonnet $30
Rose clips $4
Wig $16
Necklace $8
Blouse $43
Corset $100
Underbust JSK $75
Socks $30
Shoes $30
Petticoat $33
Bag $20

Even if you don't count the $100 corset, that's $246.

Underbust JSK

>>8201625
Mine cost nowhere near that, but they still cost about as much as an offbrand lolita outfit. While a Bodyline-centric outfit might have £16 shoes, a £25 dress, £6 wristcuffs, £3 tights, £3 on thrilled pearl necklaces and bracelets, a £10 hair accessory, £22 petticoat and £10 bag, totalling £95, a typical everyday outfit for me features £80 leather boots, £20 jeans, a £6 long-sleeved top, a £5 T-shirt, a £1 hair thing and a £40 bag, total £152. My lolita and non-plolira coats also cost similar amounts. Gotta get those leather shoes, warm woollen coats and a sturdy bag if I'm gonna be using them everyday...the cost per wear may well be lower than my lolita stuff though.

>>8201657
Meta did some nurse releases but they're not prints.

>>8202722
There's already heaps of scans of this around

>>8202578
Yo, link to dress?
I'm in AUS. Might be interested.
$30 isn't shit, we have to deal with way worse all the time.

>>8203487
All I've seen were the front and back

Hello everyone, newfriend here.

>Friends want me to wear a lolita outfit for some event
>Hesitant because I know I'm going to need custom sizing and also don't want to look like an ita since I'm a veritable newfag
>Look through various sites out of curiosity, show one friend a dress that caught my eye
>It's $95 before shipping
>Friend says it's cute but too much money
Would anyone else be rubbed the wrong way by that statement? If I'm going to do this, I want to do it right. I've two questions:
1. Is there some recommended guide for lolita newfags?
2. Where can I obtain proper shoes that are US 12W?

>>8203661
How custom measurement we talking here anon? Also what style, goth?Sweet? Classic?

Also
>12W
I am so, so sorry. Does Fleuvog make that size? If you're thibk ing goth or classic, fleuvogs are expensive but are high quality and can be worn outside Lolita. Also maybe try Clarks? If Payless stocks that size, occasionally I find hidden gems, granted 4 sizes smaller. I wish I could be more helpful here. I'd say definitely aim for heels though, flats are going to emphasize your feet. Where do drag queens get their shoes? Not trying to be mean, seriously tho

>>8203661
>Search Lolita guide on google
>Bodyline size 27 anything bigger and you'll need to look at custom shoes or normalfag heels/mary janes

What style are you aiming for? If you're not that serious then Gothic/Classical will be the easiest to buy shit for

>>8203434
I don't know actually. All I know is Pastel-Cutie's friend Ghostfae on tumblr keeps telling people to kill themselves and other stuff like that and it looks like someone did it? And now Pastel-Cutie is defending her friend secretly.

>>8203675
I've found that I'm partial to the country lolita style. I haven't been able to take any measurement other than my bust, but that alone is a few centimeters out the range of most XL sizes I saw. Truthfully, I don't want to really get into this until I lose more weight.
>tfw I'll still have clodhoppers for feet after I reach my goal
I find some good things at Payless, every now and then at Avenue as well. I'll look into Fluevog and Clarks, though. Don't worry anon, I have to buy male sneakers every now and then so I'm not above buying shoes meant for drag queens.

>>8203677
Country style.

>>8203688
sailorhachimitsu is the one who died or seems to have. Her blog is deleted now but her last post was one month ago and all it said was "make sure acid-desu gets blamed for my death" (acid-desu being ghostfae's tumblr url before she was deleted presumably for harassment).

>>8202960
I'm a fattychan, I think my waist measurements are around there currently. The band on both my CP pettis are really, really stretchy.

>>8200533
if you don't think you'd make much from selling it and it doesn't fit quite right, you could always get it altered to suit you better, maybe?

>>8200664
i don't know but the janitors have been off the chains in terms of deleting whole threads instead of pruning lately

How do girls who make wa lolita coords (actual decent ones) use floor length kimono in their coords? Like, where are they tucking all that fabric? It doesn't look like they're using kimono jackets or anything so I'm super confused.

>>8200779
what i really want to know is where the "classic lady" girl got her burgundy multi-strap heels, those are cute as fuuuuuck

>>8203760
Didn't she say she got them from Ank Rouge?

>>8201043
eh i was one of those anons on btb that time, and while i do knock a little off the price if someone mentions they're new, it's never been more than $30 off. i'm not selling newbies $300 dresses for $50 or anything. and i've only ever done it a couple of times, it's not a regular thing for me.

>>8203688
Like not even siding with Ghostface or whatever,

But who kills themselves over tumblr hate? She couldn't block Ghost?

>>8203756
Holy shit, that's really cute

>>8201123
i would have liked to see either retail or price paid pointed out for main items like dresses, shoes, blouses and purses.

>>8201696
i like the B/S/T thread here on /cgl/ the best, honestly

>>8203756
Shit, that girl who did the wa-lolita outfit that got so popular - mirror shot with pinkish kimono and black skirt - didn't she have a whole tutorial about using a full-length kimono? Can't for my life remember her name.

>>8203693
Normal mary janes, oxfords, and ankle boots are great for country imo. That's what I wear. You'll be fine.

>>8202466
so buying a lot worked out for you, anon? i've considered bidding on some sets and lots i've seen before but i've never talked to anyone who actually purchased one.

also that coord is super cute! i really like the clip-in headdress

>>8202570
how do you know she's poor? she just made a cheap coord for a casual meet. why the fuck would someone wear a really beautiful OTT coord to a casual meet?

>>8203412
you should be able to tell by the lace on the bottom, although i don't have any pics right now. just search milky sky 2012 release and you'll get pics

>>8203661
you're going to have to spend more than $200 to look half decent. I'm sorry

>>8203822
Those are the shoe types I had in mind as well, thank you for the tip!

>>8203862
My thoughts exactly. The friend in question has never done lolita either, but I guess in my case I have the advantage of lurking here every now and then to know what to do/not to do.

>>8203756

1. Be skinny with lots of spare space in your skirt.
2. Learn how to tie a kimono.
3. When tying it, lift the hem above your knees. If your ohashori ends up too long, try tying the waist tie above your bust, or tie a second ohashori on top of the normal one.

Nothing to it.

Tell me, has anyone worn Starlight Carnivale in Venice yet?

Been thinking about buying the print from someone just to troll all the lolitas when I wear it in Venice. I'm planning to go there later this year.

>>8203693
>Truthfully, I don't want to really get into this until I lose more weight.
I'm working on losing weight before investing in a new wardrobe, too. We got this, anon.

>>8203756
This is the first time I've ever seen a wa lolita dress that looked decent.

>>8203824
Thank you, it came out surprisingly good

This was not a surprise/lucky lot, it was exactly what was shown in the pictures. The catch was that all the dresses (7 total) had some kind of stain, and some were worse than others. There were also 3 pairs of body line shoes and 3 Btssb parasols. 2 put of 3 shoes were too small, the parasols are all in perfect condition. I have handwashed all the dresses and managed to get out pretty much all of the stains. 2 dresses are from a lesser k own brand and aren't really top quality. One I'm gonna sell, the other I'm going to have fun with because its pretty awful. A third dress I have already sold, leaving 1 Btssb cutsew OP my friends convinced me to keep for when I'm pregnant, AP fairy cake, AP milky berry JSK in pink and AP jewelry jelly in pink, and headbows for all three and some extra misc head dresses. Not sure about keeping Milky berry and JJ.

>>8203287
Diff anon but I pretty much agree. I didn't even realize peachie's cost that much because I don't keep up with those conversion rates.
I thought bonnet & OP girl and Lor did particularly well, for having nice brand coords but not spending a lot of money, comparatively.

>>8202606
Thanks, that's a good idea, will do!

>>8202715
I saw a post on BtB, wonder if its the same girl. Anyone know her LM name?

>>8203606
Here it is anon!
http://www.lacemarket.us/classical-sqaure-op/
It's actually really cute on, I'm just moving my wardrobe into jewle tones, so there is no place for it now.

>>8203661
Your friend said $95 is too much for a lolita dress?

>>8203820
This one? I've not seen the tutorial tho.

>>8203889
So basically just do how you do when you wear hakama with a kimono, only for lolita hiking it up under a petticoat?

>>8203482
My normalfag outfits are usually £50-70 at the most, wow

>>8203881
Country pretty easy to do, do you have prints in mind?

>>8203915
that's pretty cool anon. out of curiosity where did you find this? i'd be interested in buying a lot/miniwardrobe sometime

>>8204019
Floral prints, or berry/fruit ones like in this pic.

>>8203937
She sure did. I think her comfort zone is ~$70, but well... You get what you pay for.

>>8203969
in my area a typical outfit probably runs most people at least $250 if you're not counting the purse or hipsters

>>8200789
>>8200779
That sweet in red strawberry outfit. Man it looks terrible, or just terrible on her. $725 to still not look good in your outfit.

Anyone know where I can pick up an oldschool style ringlet wig as featured in pic related? I'd ideally like something in a pale cool blonde, dark brown or black. I did look at the one bodyline sells but from the pics at least, it looks pretty ropey.

>>8203893
It's gorgeous in person

>>8204061
Maple

>>8200180
As someone who goes to WWE live events, if you're facing a camera side, they will probably force you to change clothes. They don't want people "sticking out". (they made people next to me get rid of a questionable sign) They made cosplayers (of wrestlers even) change into generic t-shirts because they were on camera and dismissed as distracting to TV viewers. Just don't do it, not worth the hassle.

>>8204187
Looked it up. Can't see any on their site, not sure how to order anyway.

Quick question:
Btssb is coming to my country this wall, and they are going to hold a fashion show.
My friends suggested I'd apply for it, but I'm hesitating because of my measurements. I'm slim, so there is no issue with that (75cm). But I'm 177cm tall and got a 98cm bust.
Would it be completely ridiculous of me to apply because of this? I know I don't really have anything to lose, since the worst thing I can get is a no, but I'm curious

>>8204423
Do it anyway. Like you said, it can't hurt.

>>8203756
All of this:
>>8203889

Put the petticoat over the kimono once it's tied, and it doesn't actually do much in the way of taking up extra space. Also, having extra ties and a proper datejime to smooth things out help immensely at preventing bulk/gathering of fabric around the waist.

>>8204381
Go to the "full wig special" category.
> http://www.maple-wig.com/shopping/goods_category.php?cid=5

You'll need a SS to buy from them, but their ringlet wigs are gorgeous and super thick. The curls also bounce like crazy when you walk.

>>8204423
I don't think it's ridiculous

>>8204423
Yes, because you won't fit in most btssb

>>8204448
I think saying s/he won't fit into MOST Baby is a big of an exaggeration..

>>8203387
I thought about doing this but I thought I'd left it too long to make any difference (I'd tried it on an Fantastic Dolly ages ago that ran some black onto the pink fabric and it didn't seem to work), but I thought what the hell and bought some today.

It totally fucking worked, Anon! Thank you so much for the suggestion! I've been losing sleep over the fact that I thought I'd fucked up one of my most favourite/rare dresses!

So happy! :D Have a cute cat as payment since I don't have much on this computer.

>>8203947
I really like the colors and fabrics of this and also the collar but I think this also makes it very obvious why using a kimono is a bit of a bad idea. The long sleeves (furi?) and petticoat shouldn't be worn together. This would look ten times better if all that fabric wasn't hanging around on her skirt such as here >>8203756.

>>8203947
>hakama with a kimono

Basically, yes.

Although if you have a long juban, you will have to deal with that too:
- If your juban(s) is a long one, you will have to shorten it/those as well while you dress (the same way you shortened your kimono by hiking up the hem and making an ohashori out of the excess fabric. I know the juban usually isn't tied with any ohashori but it's the only way to shorten it, unless you want to actually mod it shorter). I seriously recommend against wearing the full length full kimono ensemble, as it's a lot of layers to shorten.
- alternatively, find a two-piece juban, wear only the top. Then you don't have to shorten the juban (and have less layers)
- get a kantan eri. Treat your kimono as a yukata and wear the kantan eri instead of a juban underneath. Wear a t-shirt underneath that if you're worried about sweating into your silk kimono.
- Wear a blouse underneath instead of juban

Make sure to tie the waist neatly so the skirt and petticoat can fit over everything.

>>8203969
I buy decent shoes which usually puts the total cost up. I'll wear £10 worth of stuff I got at traid and then my shoes will be like £50-£125

>>8204519
177cm tall and a 98cm bust? Shit, their bodices run short/sit weirdly on me and I've got a pretty normal torso, 86cm bust, and am only 5' 6".
Most tall girls that aren't super skinny (i.e. Not people like choke and iiralina) just look like they're trying to fit into their little sister's dress when they buy brand as opposed to something that is made to fit their height and size

>>8203675
Fluevogs tend to run small, so even if they did make 12s, they'd fit more like 10.5s

>>8204629
They do make that size, and you're pretty much correct. My friend's mom has huge feet and the ones she bought were too small so she gave them to me.

>>8204588
The long sleeves actually make the whole outfit way more elegant and flowy than short sleevesin my opinion. Short sleeves are kind of blunt.

>>8204588
furisode means swinging sleeves (furi means swinging and sode means sleeves) but the one in the pic is just standard younger girl length for regular kimono.

>>8203969
How? Give us a run through.
>>8204620
>I'll wear £10 worth of stuff
Hooow? Is this literally just pants and shirt from whatever Walmart equivalent you have?

>>8203947
This is a pretty combination but the collars are all pushed up on her neck in the back. I'm not sure if she meant to do that for some reason or not. Kantan Eri would look better to me and be a good guide to set the outer collar in the correct position.

>>8204665

I'm pretty sure it's unintentional, but when you consider how a lot of lolitas insist one must cover their shoulders, skirt cannot be too short, lolita should not showing too much leg or cleavage, etc, I find it vaguely appropriate that the collar is so high it indicates she might be a prude...

>>8204683
Eh, point (and yes, it made me laugh too!) but still, not even a granny would wear their kimono collar that high would they? This is why even the wa lolita that looks nice kind of still is a in a grey area. Should you go with lolita rules or kitsuke customs first?

is it just me ir have a lot of oldschool dressed become ita recently?? ://

>>8204707
4chan is an 18+ website.

>>8204690

>>8204690

There's like a couple of model photos for JetJ yukata with really high collars, too, so I don't really know what to think (JetJ isn't even particularly modest, when you consider they show a lot of shoulders frequently, lol). On the other hand, this is such a messy ohashori... maybe even Japanese people mess up kitsuke sometimes, even for important photoshoots.

I usually put kitsuke rules behind lolita rules for wa-loli, as the kimono becomes something being used for lolita fashion, rather than lolita fashion being added on top of a kimono.

The opposite end of that would be the lolita kimono (eg this JetJ yukata, which is breaking a few kitsuke rules...), I'd put kitsuke as higher priority than lolita rules, because it's lolita styling and accessories being applied to a kimono outfit rather than a lolita outfit, if that makes sense?

There's also all those creative (non lolita) outfits featured in kimono-hime which break all sorts of kitsuke rules, and can't really be worn to anyplace formal, so I usually lump in wa-lolita with that. It's something that I wouldn't show up to a tea ceremony or somebody's graduation in, but it's still a fun way to get creative with clothes and kimonos.

>>8204743

Ah man, posted the wrong yukata. This one is the JetJ yukata with the messy ohashori

>>8204624
Sorta OT, and I know this is going to sound salty as fuck.
I like Choke for the same reasons as everyone else: she's well-dressed, pretty and got a nice personality. But I'm pretty tired of people acting as if she is some sort of god

>>8204640
Traid. Second hand store that's mainly decent high street stuff. Every so often it has £2 sales, most of the time you can find nice items for £5 or less, and the last coat I bought was a Debenhams wool blend one for £8 that was practically unused

>>8204744
Ah, that's a lumpy shame too b/c it's pretty. I like kimono hime styling because I'm tall and like to show quirky shoes and have the right-size oshare. I'm practicing a little, mostly with yukata and a few unlined vintage kimono. I still want to see more tries at wa lolita with real kimono though.

>>8204769
She's coming to Anime Matsuri with a wig booth, right? So more people will get to meet her and get a real-life impression. That wil be good. I wonder if she is a nice person?

>>8203947
Yes, that's her! Found the tutorial: armurederose on Blogspot, check her November '14 archive. I would link, but Captcha is convinced I'm a spambot.

Hope it's helpful to >>8203756 you, anon!

>>8200524
Huge post about what? It's kind of just a done deal.

>>8204782
She seems very nice and down-to-earth on tumblr, I'd like to meet her. I like how she talks about negative parts of her life, rather than all cutesy happy fun times!!! like some lolitas I follow, without coming off as whiny. Idk, she just seems laid-back.
>inb4 crush
Probably lol

Quick question;

Do brand pieces made out of chiffon usually have silky or cotton lining? Or both (Silky lining, cotton base dress, chiffon over-layer) ?

I got a nice silky lining for a chiffon jsk I'm making, but it just feels so.. Light? Delicate? Not-sturdy? I don't know.

>>8204978

Silky lining for Moitie, JetJ and AP so far. What's the point of soft, floaty chiffon if your underlayer is stiff as cardboard, amirite?

As for the lining you picked up. Light and delicate are good feelings for a chiffon dress. Just make sure the fabric actually is sturdy and only feels light. ie- it shouldn't rip easily from you tugging at it, when layered under your chiffon it's actually opaque enough that it isn't see-through (blouse details showing through the jsk isn't exactly a cutting edge look at the moment), that kind of thing.

>>8204061
Priscilla

>>8204993
Mhm! Opaque and high thread-count. Damn stuff cost more than the chiffon.
I suppose I'm just more used to the feel of thick fabrics like wool, velveteen, cotton, etc.

Thanks, anon!

Has anyone here ever heard of Pyramid Collection? Some of their stuff is a little campy/old lady witch-y for me, but they have a few cute pieces that would make for nice boleros and blouses.

>>8204978
My VM has a silky lining

Any tricks for keeping a skirt up that's about one or two inches too big around the waist? I'm gonna wear a vest over it anyway but that's not enough to keep it up. I don't want to permanently alter the skirt.

>>8205099
They remind of a more old Western woman Ozz On.

>>8205200
Safety pins

>>8202914
so... you went out wearing just an underskirt?

>>8205236
I was hoping for something less permanent, the fabric is pretty thin.

>>8205261
Read again oldtimer

New general: >>8205254

>>8205099
Whatever you do, stay out of that "personal" section if you've got family in the house.

>>8205261
Suspenders? I'm not sure what to tell you if a safety pin in the lining is too permanent/damaging.

>>8205771
Ugh. Meant for >>8205200