/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8181772
No link to the last gen? Nice try, OP. Better luck next time. I do link your header image, though--solid choice.

>>8181831
>>>8176663

>>8181831
>>8181843
Fuck me, misread what you said.

On topic:
What does cgl think about this release? I don't usually go for stripes but damn it's cute as fuck.

>>8181855
I love the stripes, but that is all. Too schoolgirl-y for me in design.

>>8181855
the way stripes are on my bust always looks super awkward on me. Like my bust somehow looks flat yet bigger on the sides.

>>8181772
and sand

>>8181772

Do you guys have any tips on making a big group order? I'm in the US so should I watch out for customs? Is there anything I should keep in mind?

>>8181855
God these boob-waisted cuts. Someone tell AP to stop.

>>8181984
stop being fat

>>8181996
stop having small tits

>>8182021
Always gotta go straight to your saggy cow udders when you fatty-chans get called out, don't you? Must be hard to be insecure.

>>8181984
Seriously. they only look good if you're flat chested. This high-waist trend in general needs to go away

>>8182052
This high-waist trend can stay for as long as it likes.

>>8182052

God forbid flat chested Japanese girls who make up most of their sales base have clothing that suits them

God forbid

>>8182061
>>8182052
This. It's flattering on my flat as a board body, give me this one guys.

>>8181855
I like the necklace. That cut and hat is going to make people look like toddlers at a fancy preschool.

>>8182063
Deliciously Flat Chests unite!

Haha I don't even like AP's stuff that much but I'm glad there are a proliferation of cuts being released that are look good on torsos that are actually flat as opposed to western flat. Now if only VM would get the memo...

>>8182061
>>8182062
>>8182063
I'm glad it's flattering on people and making them happy, i mean they are cute. It's just making me grumpy personally since AatP is hopping on the trend too. So my long torsoed and busty self will go chill and wait for this trend to pass.

>>8182101
Don't worry, I think the trend is slowly dying off, give it a few more releases.

>>8181855
I love the bias stripes on the chest/vertical stripes everywhere else detail. I love the color, and the collar and cuffs. I'm not super fond of the empire waist (is that what it's called?).

I like it way better than Marine Kingdom, for what it's worth

>>8181996
please, those barely ever look good, even on twigs. they usually look shitty on japanese girls, too.

>>8181855
Are there any other shots of this available? I haven't seen many.

Okay. First time ordering from glitzy wonderland. I ordered a skirt, and it said it'd dispatch within 7 business days. Shipping time is about 1-2 weeks. I ordered it back on Feb 26th and haven't received a tracking number yet. I got my confirmation my order processed and my payment cleared. Should I go ahead and email them now, or give it another week? I know they're more like a shopping service so it might be a delay that's out of their control.

>>8182152
May as well ask them, better to know its a short delay than to have your order accidentally fall through the cracks

>>8182167
That's what I'm worried about. Especially since they sold out of my size shortly after my order cleared. I'm just wondering if I was being to impatient as a first time buyer.

>First time wearing lolita in public
>With supportive non-lolita sister
>Hella compliments from Teavana clerk
>Hella friendship with classy goth lady
>Apple store woman discreetly snaps a picture of me
>Free coffee at Starbucks

What a day

>>8181855
It's cute, but (other than the awful cut), it doesn't look like an AP design to me. Just looks like a Taobao one. It might be because so many Taobao brands have been releasing schooly shit though.

>>8182674
Congrats, anon!

Did anyone else get the most recent LP from Innocent World? Just got mine in the other day, and was (obviously) hoping from Grazia Crown, but ended up with e Pietro Angel JSK in wine, which was a lot prettier than I expected! I also got four pairs of socks and two hair combs, all for about $150 USD including shipping, not too bad.

I bid on this because I was tired and I thought it was a dress.. so if someone here wants it can you buy it instead of me? It's like 2 yen
http://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/d165422661

What do you like better, the old school chunky shoes with a heel or platform, or the modern smaller shoes with little heel?

>>8182785
I like old school shoes better. I love big clunky platforms shoes in general. I also prefer to wear higher heels with lolita than tea party style shoes. I think flat shoes make my legs looks stumpy.

>>8182785
I like both depending on the style of the dress I'm pairing it with. The former are great with gothic and oldschool, the latter are better with anything more elegant.

On another note
>just got the money together to add a dress I wanted to my Taobao order
>sold out
>not sure if I feel sad because it was gorgeous or happy because instead of this one dress I can now buy like three other items I needed

Pic related, Taobao review pic. I particularly wanted this one because I have to go to a wedding this summer and I think it'd be suitable (obviously without a petti and not coordinated in a lolita way).

>>8182785
I like round clunky platform shoes and slender lace up boots.

>>8182758
lol no? Just sell it when you get it

What to do when someone doesn't respond to "seen" FB pms? I don't want to be annoying but it really grates on my nerves when sellers don't respond to questions and stuff. She isn't a scammer, this I know for sure.

Not interested in how many pieces you had or how much you'd spent, but how long was it before you felt that you had a "complete" (or relatively complete) lolita wardrobe? Asking because I made my first order over a year ago and I've spent $1500 since (not even buying brand) and I still don't feel like I'm there.

Looking over my current wishlist, I think I'll be able to afford a wardrobe I'm fairly with (that I'll have a few different items in each of the colour schemes in my wardrobe so I can mix and match and and be able to add new main pieces at will, and won't have loads of stuff sitting around with nothing it coordinates with) by late June or mid July, but that seems like a long way away. At the moment I'm looking at at least 6 more main pieces, 4 more blouses, a couple of boleros, another bag, some more accessories and some more shoes before I'm satisfied...

>>8181923
>good enough at editing to photoshop lace in
>not good enough at editing to use anything other than fucking Comic Sans

>>8182871
I've been into Lolita for something like 7 or 8 years, wasn't able to start buying clothes until about 4 years ago, and this year is going to be the first year I actually have some complete outfits because I'm making a goal to save money and get a very small "proper" wardrobe started. I spent the 4 years buying different things trying to experiment and find what suits me and what I like and what fits my lifestyle, it took me until the beginning of this year to figure that out. I feel like I wasted my money and I'm kicking myself so hard for not planning better when I first got into the fashion years ago, but at least now I'll have a very small chance of wasting my money on something that I won't like or that won't suit me in the future.

I feel like a persons wardrobe can never truly be "complete" in any fashion or even in general, because clothes will always get worn out, quit fitting, or whatever. People are always loosing and gaining clothes. Personally, for me I only want a basic Lolita wardrobe because I prefer casual and old school styles. A few blouses in basic black and white, a few basic shoes (well, that and the funky colored ones I bought without thinking) and several dresses and skirts. I'm not into print collecting so it won't bother me to only have a few dresses. I'll be more satisfied if I have just a few special pieces than I would be to have a bunch of stuff. So for me a complete wardrobe is just having enough things for me to be able to enjoy dressing up regularly.

>>8182871
You will never be satisfied.

I don't want to ask whether you think this is ethically right but I was wondering how you think the community reacts to wearing bag and shoe replicas?
As an example every goth and their mom has the moitie bat bag it seems and people openly say on their posts that their bag is taobao.
Similarly tight copies also seem to be worn a lot and no one's pretending their aren't copies.

>>8182891
It's imitating the style of a comic strip so comic sans makes sense.

>>8182123

>>8182826
Depends, what kind of question is it and how long as it been since they read it? If you asked a simple question like, is this black or dark navy blue and it's been a week since they read it, I would message them again. If it's been one day and you did something like ask how much shipping would be or for a set of measurements, they may have went to go find out and got busy or it's taking them awhile to get the answer. I would politely message them saying something like "I'm sorry to bother you, but I just wanted to check up on my question about x. If you need some time to check on that, just let me know." ? Even though you're annoyed, try to be as calm and patient for as long as possible before being bitch. I get annoyed with this too but sometimes I have to stop and remember sometimes I don't respond to messages right away either, especially if I have to go find out about an answer, although in that case I will usually tell people if it will take me some time to answer their question and I think that is a courtesy people should do if that's the case.

>>8182970
>meanwhile Meta is making a fusion of their most popular series: military x sailor

>>8182926
I thought it was just the captioned PowerPuff Girls opening?

>>8182922
Legally it's a different issue, you can't copyright a design but you can copyright art or a logo. Also depends how generic the design is. For example, I definitely don't see issues with the Milk heart bag replicas, because the design's so simple. Tea Party replica shoes don't bother me in the slightest (partly because they're one of the only styles of shoe that work with modern sweet, so if you don't buy them as an OTT sweet lolita your coords are gonna look pretty crap). But for some reason I feel more uncomfortable with replica BtSSB lumiere shoes (even though I was contemplating buying some myself the other day). Partly because it's a more unique design, partly because while tbh people are more likely to think your tea parties are Taobao than AP (same thing with bat bags), replicas of the lumiere shoes are seen less often so it seems more like you're trying to pass off a fake as real.

>>8183019
oh, its a parody. had to google it lol

>>8182871

Just a wearable wardrobe? Almost immediately. I limited my choices to some specific colours and theme (based off my first burando outfit, which was a lucky pack), picked out 3-4 dresses from taobao, picked blouses, shoes, bag and headwear that went with most of them, and that was my starter wardrobe. Definitely couldn't last a week of daily lolita, but I could do half a year of lolita meetups and a couple of cons by mixing and matching.

A wardrobe where I'm so happy with it that I stop buying? Probably never. I split off from my specific colour a long time ago, and I find my tastes changing every few years. I think I'm due for another wardrobe overhaul this year or next, my age has been catching up with me and now I find myself slightly reluctant to wear the most OTT pastel sweet in my wardrobe, so they might as well go on to new homes while I look for more toned down sweet stuff, which may mean I do end up with a few pieces hanging around with nothing to match them with, or some of them might have only 1 coord temporarily.

I don't particularly mind the wardrobe overhaul aspect, though. It seems like a lot of the fun of lolita is in looking for perfect items to make coords with, buying them, waiting for them to arrive, and then hopefully elation as the outfit comes together perfectly as predicted. Soon as I'm done with this overhaul I'll probably decide I like another colour better and start over again anyway.

>>8182908
Haha yup, I'd figured out what suited me beofre I started buying but I just liked so many different styles and kept seeing stuff for sale that I wanted before it sold out even if it wasn't a style that'd match everything in my wardrobe. So far I've got elements of classic, gothic, sweet, pirate and military all in one wardrobe, and this next order is adding something sailor-style into the mix. If I wear classic I mostly wear jewel tones or dark colours, but the first dress I bought was sweet-classic and I've only just got all the items I need to coord it (I lost motivation for building coords around it once it arrived because I felt uncomfortably sweet when I wore it, but I loved the print so I didn't want to sell it). I saw an eyepatch for sale and couldn't resist because I love the way they look, even though it's not a very practical item; the same thing happened with novelty bags. Then a couple of the usual small beginner issues like buying stuff and finding you've converted to Japanese shoe sizes wrong and having to sell it. I would probably feel happier with my wardrobe if I'd shopped smarter, but I still definitely wouldn't be there yet.

>>8182922
Well, I think I'll always have wishlist stuff I want, but by "satisfied" I mean having a good base wardrobe, which I can buy a new dress to add to without having to buy a fuckton of other stuff to be able to coord it, and which has enough clothes for me to mix-and-match and wear different coords to meets. At the moment I have a lot of items I can't make a 100% complete coord with, which means that even though I probably have 15 or 20 basic outfits by now, I only have a handful that I feel are "good enough" for a meet where people are more likely to notice things like missing accessories.

While we are talking about wardrobes, how is yours put together?
I feel like most people fall into 2 categories the "I buy what I want when I want and then scramble to put together 1 outfit with that thing that matches nothing else"
or the cohesive style heavy wardrobe (Ie, all sweet/classic/goth/whatever, more defined like chocolate, everything must match with this color, ectect)

Personally, I started off with an "everything must match with pink" kind of mindset so everything I had would match with my pink and white accessories...But I have thrown that out and just buy whatever I want and then buy accessories and other pieces based around main dream pieces. I feel like I have 3 separate wardrobes (one sweet, classic, and goth) and try to get pieces that work within it, but I can't stick to just one style.
(Sorry, typos everywhere I'm on my phone)

>>8183026
>lumiere shoes are unique!

Nah son. Those shoes are Fluevog as fuck.Pic related.

>>8183035
Oh, I had a wardrobe like that almost immediately but I still felt like it had too many limitations. I could make outfits but I felt so restricted in what I could do when I only had, for example, one black blouse and one white blouse and I didn't have any stand collar blouses or bell-sleeved blouses or anything to really change the feel of different coords. It's only recently that I've began to feel like I've had more than a copuple of coording options.

I've cut out a couple of the colours in my wardrobe but I still have a huge amount. Basically got every non-pastel colour but purple, bright red and yellow. I've been trying to make the style more cohesive too, by doing stuff like selling off the kuro sweet items I bought when I was starting out because they were easier to find than properly gothic items.

Anyone interested in some fresh drama? This is involving Pixielocks and some rando. It's going down right now.

>>8183060
Shit son, now I can buy a replica without feeling guilty, thanks man.

>>8182785
It honestly depends on the coord, for me. I love shoes of all kinds, I'm a shoe whore apparently.

>>8183074
Here is what the other girl was saying ..

>>8183092
>I didn't mind her using my pic
>but I retaliated anyway
Logic is not this girl's specialty...

>>8182709
Was there ever any actual photos or firsthand reports of people getting Grazia in their luckypacks or just rumors? I never once saw someone actually post they got it, just people saying some LP's had it. Would really like to know if they were identical to original release pieces they had leftover or if they were a special LP cut/release of some kind. I haven't seen a single photo.

>>8182871
I've been in lolita for almost 4 years and I think it'll take me another 2 years to have the "complete wardrobe/wishlist fulfilled for now" I want with around 40 main pieces.

>>8182922
Don't like them for very specific designs (AATP violin bag/coffin bag for ex.), are okay for star bags or simple tea party shoes.
Please don't wear them in front of the designer or at a brand TP though.

>>8183074
I don't understand what's happening.

>>8183018
Bless Meta, those mad geniuses.

>>8183060
Honestly the Fluevog version's heel is so much more intricate and beautiful especially in person, plus being real leather and with a really beautiful ruboff effect, that it really makes the Baby ones look like cheap knockoffs for me (in a sense of buying preference- I really don't care about knockoffs from the debate standpoint). But the Fluevog ones don't come in pastels/light colors so I guess Baby has that going for them.

>>8183123
Something about some girl stealing a photo of pixelocks (jillian) and then making it her profile picture. Pixelocks saw it, got upset, reported her on fb, made a rant about it on facebook.

Then the girl that stole her photo stated that she only did it because Pixelocks had stolen a selfie of hers a long time ago; basically stating it was a retaliation against pixelocks.

>>8183110
>Don't like them for very specific designs (AATP violin bag/coffin bag for ex.), are okay for star bags or simple tea party shoes.
This is pretty much how I feel.

>>8183135
Ehh, seems like pretty boring drama.

>>8183154
No where near as good as Raleigh or Melissa, but a slightly entertaining read none the less. It got a small chuckle out of me.

So I haven't been keeping up with anything lolita related for over five years now and want to sell off what's left of my wardrobe. Where should I sell it at? Is egl_comm_sales still a good place to use or are there other more frequented places to use?

>>8183215
lacemarket, or the lolita sales groups on Facebook. i've fond both are much more active than LJ is these days. Also, the buy/sell/trade thread here on CGL is great

>>8167802

>>8183108
I know an anon a few threads ago mentioned their friend got one. There's a separate listing for the LP version on lolibrary, but there's only the photos that IW put on the site, no detailed pictures of anything.

>>8182871
I started buying lolita in 2010, and I think only last year I felt like I had a complete wardrobe.

>>8182785
I like the slender shoes with skinnier heels. The chunky shoes look so ugly to me.

>>8182801
So freaking pretty. Which Taobao store had this dress? Would like to see what else that have.

>>8183438
Yolanda. TBH I think/hope they'll restock it - it can be custom sized and the JSK version is still in stock so they can't have run out of the fabric.

>>8183125
those vogs came in white, which is kind of like a pastel if you squint

>>8183018
Navy Lolita! Fuck yeah!

Unrelated, but

>got invited to a brunch meet up and we're encouraged to go dressed up in food prints
>typically wear gothic or non-printed sweet
>just about to go through BL to scout out for something I'd be willing to wear
>remembered that I had made a bid on a cherry print
>tfw won a jsk for 3000 yen
>awwyiss.gif

Since it's through chibi tenshi, apparently, I have to wait until it gets to her and for her to ship it to me. I'm pretty surprised that I didn't have to put a payment for the initial bid yet. This is my first time shopping from her. Maybe I glossed over the auctioning instructions, but is this how it's normally done through Chibi Tenshi? I was told that I shouldn't worry if it'll take a little while to next an invoice, but I wonder how long the wait typically is.

Hi seagulls, I'm super new to lolita and love classic/casual lolita and was wondering what stores are best for it. Which stores best suite a beginner?

>>8183505
By the way, sorry if I sound a little lost. I'm a total newbie and don't really know exactly what to ask and all that.

>>8183505
>>8183514

inb4 lurk moar

>>8183505
>>8183514
if you give some examples of coords you like, it might be easier to direct you. IW is certainly more casual of the 'strictly' classic brands though.

>>8183485
I guess that's true- I'd forgotten about that, I don't think they've carried that color in a while? Although I guess since most of the Queen Transcendent line is nixed now, it's moot either way. Such a shame that they got rid of most of their best/most loliable lines but maybe they'll bring them back someday.

>>8183514
>>7196511

>>8183505
Someone, link the guide you just did! I wasn't a part of it and forgot what the address is

>>8183533
It was called the Lolita Guidebook but Google isn't bringing it up, hang on.

thelolitaguidebook.tumblr.com

Of course she can also refer to the Lolita Handbook on Livejournal, Hello Lace, fyeahlolita's blog, and even the infamous lolita-tips (which is probably around her level).

>>8183518
I really love the look of this coord.
>>8183533
>>8183543
>>8183529
Thank you! I'll read through these.

>>8183488
Yeah, she often doesn't require a deposit up front, unless she is low on money for any reason. It usually takes 3-4 days for the item to get to her and then she will invoice you. From her to me it only takes 5 days more or less to get to me, so all up about 8-10 days unless you order more in the meantime.

>>8183552
Sweet, thanks. I'm so used to using Japonica and Tokyo Pirates - this is definitely different from what I'm used to.

>>8183551
This outfit has a Juliette et Justine skirt, the bag is Jane Marple (an otome kei brand, you may like otome if you like more casual looks) and Grimoire tights (a dolly kei brand).

I think you would like Juliette et Justine, Innocent World, BTSSB and Jane Marple. The first two are probably easiest to deal with as a newbie.

>>8183559
Thank you very much!

>>8182871
About 2-2.5 years for me from the point I started buying. Still not 100% there and there's a few holes I'd like to plug but it's cohesive and varied now and I'm happy with it at this point.

>>8183048
I started with buying just what I wanted, but have now started basically analysing it and filling in the gaps. I wouldn't call it staple heavy but with 23 main pieces I have 17 blouses and 21 pairs of shoes. So I don't have the scramble any more to make things a bunch of different coords but wasn't dedicated to being logical at the start.

When will I reach her level? I want all her burandoooooooooooo!

>>8181996
Lol i'm 32''24''33'' and those cuts look like shit on me.

>>8183560
JetJ can make some out there looks, just FYI. So don't think everything will be as calm as that library skirt. You might want to look at Excentrique too.

>>8183596
34" 25.5" 38"
Empire waists are my favorite. They're so comfy and flattering, even in normal clothes. I'm loving the high cuts, though I can't wear ap because of the length.
I don't get the hate. Maybe for tent dresses, but empire waists can be really nice on a lot of people. I'm tall though.

>>8183108
pretty sure mademoiselle-iona on tumblr got one.

>>8183594
She had recently made a video about leaving lolita and selling a lot of her wardrobe, so you could check which burando she is selling.

This is going to be really random, but does anyone have those screencaps/transcripts from the Japanese lolitas on 2chan? Specifically the one where one of the girls talks about a divination method with petals, or something? I was trying to describe the whole thing to a friend but I can't remember much and that part stuck out the most.

>>8183621
I think empire waists suit tall slender people best.

>>8183596
It may be personal preference too? My friend looks amazing in high waist items in my opinion but she says that she looks like crap in it.

>>8183594
If you buy Lolita regularly it isn't that hard. She keeps her items piled up and then opens them all at once so it's possible she has been hoarding those packages for several months.

>>8183048
I tend to buy what I like, what's available, and what I can afford. This has resulted in me having 7 main pieces that I love dearly and got for great prices, but I can only put together a couple of basic outfits with because I lack accessories/shoes/statement blouses. I need to stop being so picky about accessories TBH, and just be more methodical in my shopping habits in general.

It kinda depresses me though because I've stuck to my main color choices pretty well, and I still got a bit of a mess.

>>8183594
This has me wondering: Seagulls, how often do you buy Lolita items? Do you often buy main pieces or accessories? How many items do you get in a month? Do you mostly buy from secondhand or direct from the brand?

I have a part time job so I can rarely buy new items because it depends on if I have money saved or not. I tend to buy mostly secondhand items and buy dresses and skirts maybe once every other month and I buy accessories almost every month.
I wish I could be like girlonsunday because it looks like she buys whatever she wants. Anyone know how old she is?

>>8183048
My wardrobe is based around jewel tones since that is what looks best with my complexion. I have a few items that break that rule (honey cake, dramatic rose) but mostly everything in my wardrobe is cohesive or can make at least two combos. Right now i am trying to build up an otome/casual lolita wardrobe that I can put together for the summer when it is too hot for regular lolita

>>8183819
I tend to buy a main piece once every couple months, last time I bought something was in early December for my birthday (Versailles Rose embroidery with the bonnet hnnnngh), and I'm eyeing a dress right now. I'm almost exclusively second hand, except for indie which I'll shell out for firsthand because it's a bitch to find in the aftermarket.

>>8183819
At least once a month. Sometimes if something new drops that I love I order a few times a month. I usually get ~4 items per order (1 or 2 main pieces and some accessories). I buy directly from the brand.

I swear I didn't imagine it but is there a picture about which collars best suit certain face/body shapes? I swear I saw it once but maybe I'm just imagining it. Otherwise I need some advice on which collars would match a rounder/more rectangular face.

>>8183073

Ah, my starter wardrobe colour choices were much, much, much smaller than that -- my burando LP was a btssb pink jsk with bows, matched with a white blouse, so I limited myself to only pink and white, and the theme was bows. So my rule was every piece I buy had to be either pink or have a lot of pink in it, and had to have either real bows or bows in the print.

What I lost with my limited colour palette, I gained in versatility with styles. I had only white or offwhite blouses, not even cream or ivory, for eg, but I had a few different styles. I got as far as getting a few pink classic lolita knockoff dresses and then using the same blouse and socks for a sweet lolita dress. I even had some other colours in my wardrobe, I had sax Tiara Rose, although the pink was a little off, it still looked pretty okay with pink accessories since the main part of the print were the rose bouquets with bows on them. So I got an okay amount of coords out of what little I had.

Too bad it only lasted half a year. I gradually ended up with other colours than pink, and some of them looked off with just pink accessories, so my first wardrobe overhaul was going from pink x white to a pastel rainbow wardrobe.

Sometimes I think about how nice it would be to go back to that kind of strictly colour-controlled wardrobe, but there are dresses with so many more interesting colours out now. So I think an approach where I just try to overhaul my wardrobe every other year, sell off the items I don't wear and then look for coordinating items on a case by case basis, is much better than trying to limit myself to only specific colour palettes. This is just my feeling, though, and the approach is rather high maintenance, but I enjoy the process, so I don't really mind.

>>8183543
aww yee the guide is already getting some use. thanks for linking it!! hopefully i'll finish it up soon with some more pictures and stuff.

>>8183819
I have bought 2 jsks new from brand. My other 3 jsks and a skirt are secondhand. I buy a new item every 2-3 months. Be it a small accessory order, a new dress, a new blouse. I get something new.

>>8183819

I save up and splurge. I'd go months without a lolita purchase, and then a few items will start popping up at a great price, and since I have the money I'd buy them all (or as many as I can, anyway). Some months seem to have girls dumping cheap stuff on the secondhand market, some other months everything seems expensive.

I actually received as many boxes as that pic in a single month some time last year. My family sat me down and had "serious talk" with me about my "shopping addiction". What it was was just good bargains, nice releases and some preorders all coming in at the same time, that's all. Wish I'd thought of documenting it, I never thought it would be such a sensational topic.

>>8183819
>how often do you buy Lolita items?
It varies but weekly or fortnightly has been the usual.

>Do you often buy main pieces or accessories?
I'll go through phases where I just buy main pieces, then realise I need more accessories so buy those.

>How many items do you get in a month?
That is wildly variable too... I am actually not sure. The price effects how much I buy.

>Do you mostly buy from secondhand or direct from the brand?
Mostly second hand because the items I want are no longer available, or I can get a better deal second hand from the people that cycle through their wardrobes insanely quickly. I'll buy direct every few months if there's a release I must have.

>>8183941
It probably exists, but I don't have it. I know I've seen one showing which collars suit which bodytype (mostly aimed at what collar/bodice type to avoid if you're stacked in order to avoid boobloaf).

>>8183819
I think almost weekly. I usually get a package every week. One time I had to pick up 3 packages from the post office, and they had to give me a cart to wheel all of them to my car. It was kind of embarrassing.

I have two more dresses coming in this week and the next, and then I am seriously considering putting a stop to my spending on Lolita until I can sell off some items.

>That email ordering anxiety
Waiting to know if they got my email and I can buy the dress is pure unadulterated torment. Hold me anons.

>>8183819
>how often do you buy Lolita items?
Currently I'm on a 6-month spending ban but if I were to average everything out I'd probably buy something at least once a month. Though "buying something" could range from a single brand JSK to a big taobao or Bodyline order.

>Do you often buy main pieces or accessories?
I'm fairly balanced in that regard but I'm not a very accessory heavy person so I'm more inclined to buy actual clothing items than smaller accessories.

>How many items do you get in a month?
Again, it varies but to average out the last 2.5 years of buying it's probably 3-5 things a month.

>Do you mostly buy from secondhand or direct from the brand?
Mostly direct from brand [though it's not always brand brand, I do love me my taobao] because something in me doesn't like paying 100+ for something used that was originally only about 250. I also don't really have a wishlist of dream dresses for that reason, so I just buy what I like that's currently available. Though I can't pass up a good deal so I do buy a little secondhand.

Did anyone else email AP about Marine Kingdom? I got a rather undecided reply, and the skirt is now showing as available but only through the special store order.

Oh well, at least it's not an outright refusal.

>>8183976
You should have documented that because it sounds wonderful.

>>8184096

Nah, it also coincided with some colleagues taking maternity leave and I got stuck with some bigger projects than I could handle. Honestly it was a hassle having to find time to go to the post office to pick up big boxes every week (I missed about half the deliveries). Plus, they came in so fast, even the preorders that I'd been seriously anticipating kind of got lost in the sheer volume of new things.

If it happens again I might let it pile up until I have the time to leisurely document it and enjoy the pretty things one by one.

>>8184094
That seems to be the copypasta response people are getting from AP. Keep hoping anon! I doubt they'll do a MTO release since they still have Celestial, Perfume of Wonderland and Dream Marine going on.

>>8184111
This a thousand times. People need to stop getting so butthurt over AP not doing MTO on every single popular print

New AP print (that isn't at all related to the ocean)

>>8184185
Personally I don't care for it. Too much going on.

>>8184185
I like the more victorian-edwardian imagery as a take on their usual horse print, but I don't really find it visually appealing. The stock pictures look gross too, like it's kind of shiny? Bottom lace(?) stuff looks a bit strange, especially on the op. I'll assume it's just the pictures though. I like the jsk best, I actually kind of like the way they did the bodice, some texture is nice.

Anyway, it's not to my taste. I find it too busy, it's a bit sickening, but I'm a basic bitch who only wears non-prints in lolita anyway.

>>8184202
>>8184185
It has a fucking underskirt look to it.

Ugh.

>>8184202
((I really like the name though. Belle Epoque. Beautiful Era.))

>>8184203
On the JSK it looks like printed lace?/ a plain space the same colour as the lace and then a weird chiffon ruffle. On the op and skirt it looks like printed lace, lace, and a weird chiffon ruffle. It's bizarre. It's looks off, not quite wide enough, or the skirt itself isn't ruffled enough at the bottom to blend. Like a really bad underskirt at that.

>Order dress
>Shipped on the 11th
>Not moved since the 11th

What do? I'm scared for my dress. ;_;

Mousing over "Delivery Agent - …+" just makes it say 'Delivery Agent - JAPAN…+'

I'm IN LOVE with this.
Meta is amazing.

>>8184249
Have you checked your country's postal website? Looks like your package was last leaving Japan, so it might be in your customs by now.

>>8184259
That's the tracking from Parcel Force, the postal service in the UK that EMS uses. I called them earlier but they said it's still in Japan.

>>8184253
That's actually pretty cute, the placement of the brown sign looks a little unbalanced in the pic but it's likely better in motion. The lace is frothy like lemonade, but I think one of their 'vintage' styled cuts would have been cute too. Nice to see something relatively simple, the colour scheme is appealing. Based meta.

http://www.lacemarket.us/katrina-op-in-mint/
> 970$
Really?

>>8184253
holy crap I love this

Opinions on the new prints from Baby/AatP?

>>8184291
Not a fan at all of the AatP one, and both lines using diamond patterns at the same time is a bit boring. AatP has been really off their game lately, which sucks because they're my favorite brand. Guess it's a result of their designers leaving.

Is there a digital wardrobe site that has lolita items? Would you use one? What would you want from one aside from access to everything on lolibrary?

>>8184291
Diamond patterns are generally very popular in Japan, but I don't think it will be as popular in the west.

Does someone else have the feeling skirts aren't popular (anymore)?
While hunting for stuff from my wishlist, I realised that the skirts are almost impossible to find. On the other side, Innocent World skipt the skirt version for a lot of their prints.

I started to consider buying dresses and butcher them into skirts. You see how desperate I am?

>>8184349
I actually have a number of print skirts because I found them much more easily than the JSK, so I've had the exact opposite experience. Skirts are quite a bit more versatile, that might make people hang on to them more? Not really sure.

>>8184249
>>8184259

Oh wow, you gulls, it just moved. Sorry post posting my worry all over this thread, haha.

>>8184349
Most of my wardrobe is skirts so I guess I see it as the opposite? I also tend to find them more often when looking for certain prints too, so it could just be what you are looking for.

>>8184349
I get the feeling skirts are bought less often and frequently bought by people who never wear them because they require more investments (vest, blazer) and a jsk is easier. As a result they turn up less often if you are looking for something specific but if they are sold they are pretty cheap considering they still have a great print and can be your main piece if you invest in some top outerwear.

>>8182674
Free coffee because lolita? wut

>>8184349
I want to wear skirts more often because I love casual Lolita and want to start wearing Lolita more often as a whole, and I've noticed it seems like skirts aren't popular too and it sucks because I need more skirt inspo.
I only have two skirts so far though because I find them really uncomfortable because of the pressure they put over my stomach (IBS and reproductive organ problems). On that note, anyone else have trouble wearing skirts?

>>8184479
That is the reason why I need more skirts too. I want to wear Lolita more daily and toned down and this is so much easier with skirts.

>On that note, anyone else have trouble wearing skirts?
How about full shirring waist?
The most comfortable skirts I own are the newer releases from Meta and IW. All old Lolita (pre 2007) is very snug.

>>8184291

I actually really like this, and would get it in both pink and black, but I don't like the double border both on top and bottom of the print.

>>8184484
I also like that you can work Lolita skirts into non Lolita outfits, somehow I can break all the rules of the fashion with a JSK and it still looks clearly like Lolita. Not that I really have a problem with that since I do like the fashion.

Hmm yes that would probably help, both my skirts are pretty tight on me even though they are definitely my size and both only have a panel of elastic for give. I wonder if there's a way to alter them to make them fit better something, I've never been really creative about that kind of thing. Lolita is difficult enough to wear on a hot summer day without having to worry about your dumb heath too.

>>8184466
No, free coffee because I have 365 Starbucks rewards accounts. I should have specified, sorry.

>>8184508
Take out the elastic or get someone to put a looser one in?

>>8184561
The thing I'm worried about with messing with the elastic myself is that the last time I tried to do that I messed the thing up completely. I'm so bloody skinny that it seems like stuff has to be fairly tight or it just falls down.
I need to find a seamstress I guess and hope they won't charge an arm and a leg.

>>8184291
I like the concept of antiquities as a printed design, but this just looks so...boring, and I'm the type who doesn't even wear prints.

>>8184270
Why is this a shock? The Katrina OP is a very popular series. Even if it is mint, people still want it.

>>8184496
I feel like seeing the print on a dress, it looks a lot better than just seeing the print by itself.

>>8184462
Yeah, the Day Dream Carnival skirt goes for so much less than the OP or JSK that I've been considering buying it even though I usually don't wear sweet.

>>8184479
I have trouble because I am very busty and all of my blouses make my boobs look big and 99% o the time they gape. I'm considering getting a FTM binder for this but I don't want to hurt my boobs...

Does anyone know the actual measurements of the Magic Potion Pandora's Box Original Print JSK I in M?

Lolibrary says is 90cm bust, 70cm waist, but the dress have shirring.
I have 95cm bust and 72cm waist.

What's the Seattle community like? I'm moving soon and wondering if I should bother joining the scene.

So my boyfriend wants to get in to male lolita or just wearing something to pair well with me while I'm in it...

He's on the bigger guy with a beard, so I was thinking on pushing him towards aristocratic. I know he can't fit in to any brand names, but what are some good blogs and resources so he can understand the aesthetic?

>>8184804
Then you won't fit.

>>8183596
Weird. I'm 32-24-34 and I love high waists since they elongate my legs but cover my longass torso.

>>8184836
palaceofprinces tumblr might be useful

>>8184345
Are you planning on making one, anon?

>>8184879
I had thought about that, but there's a lot more ouji/kadona than anything on that blog. Thank you though, Anon!

>>8184836
I agree with aristocrat. Big and burly guys don't really work for ouji (size wise included), even for thinner guys they still have to be pretty femme looking.
I think deer stalker posts aristo occasionally. I don't know if it'll fit, but Atelier Boz is a nice aristo brand with things that aren't super dandy or things that will make him look like he's dressed for thanksgiving.

Does anyone have advice for getting putrid "plastic"-y smell out of dresses? It's so bad it was making me sneeze and I don't think it'll do well in a wash.

>>8184879
>>8184914
I honestly don't think big burly guys with beards fit aristo either. Granted better than ouji but it sounds like it's going to look disastrous.

>>8184926
Tbh, I don't think either fashions will suit him, but he's really interested and wants to be able to dress up with me. He's a big sweetheart, I just want to humor him and I've already told him he doesn't need to go out of his way to wear something with me.

>>8184907
I might when I get the time and there isn't already something around.

>>8184926
It'll look silly either way, aristocrat isn't really something you can "blend in" with. Even with lolita it's possible to make it look somewhat normal. So you kind of have to just go with it.

Not a lolita, but need help.
Doing a cosplay of Langtree from Over the Garden Wall. I'm planning on using a petti to do her dress, but I am not willing to drop 50 bucks. Will layering a few cheap pettis give me adequate poof?

>>8185075
just buy a wedding one from ebay for like $20

>>8184836
Victorian couple? Not really lolita but at least he won't look completely out of place.

>>8184466
I've actually gotten free coffee because I was wearing lolita at least twice. Bored baristas really liked my outfit I guess.

>>8184185
I really like this, but I'm sad they changed some of the detailing on the OP.

>>8184856
I might just be too short for them, I'm 5'4''. They make me look pregnant and dumpy.

>>8184959
regular goth and neo-victorian clothing lines in the west might work for him. get basics from such places and aristo him up with accessories.

search "neo victorian menswear"

>>8185262
http://www.gentlemansemporium.com/store/vict_mens_21.php

something like this. get it tailored, and accessorize with aristocrat-style things. it won't be jfash but if he doesn't have the body for jfash he can still look pimpin' in western neo-vic.

>>8185262
>>8185274

This is perfect Anon, thank you!!

So, I'm interested on going to the Tea Party Club's 8th anniversary in London on September 5th.
Does anyone know how the ticket reservation will be? How is this usually handled? How and where can one purchse the tickets, are they limited, and how does one pay?

>>8184967
I actually started working on this as well, just not a website, just a desktop app and future phone app. Kinda interested in what your plans are.

>>8183600
Yeah I saw haha. It's a little out there but I kinda like it too. I'll check them out too. Thank you for helping me until now.

What is CGL's opinion on CL Night Carnival? I personally like it in the pink colorway but I know its pretty busy and has a really big color contrast which most people tend to dislike.

>>8185519
the lavender colorway is one of my dream dresses tbh

>>8185519
I think it'll take a lot of work to make it look casual. It's better off saved for bigger events where you can go balls to the walls and really make good use of the colors.

If you want casual/ easy I'd go with the lavender

http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/dream_marine/index.htm

Made to order starts the 21st and goes through the 25th. Everything from the series will be up for order. The planned shipment is set for mid to late July.

Thoughts on this skirt? It kinda reads as poor man's Moitie to me I must admit but I still kinda like it, I wish the frill wasn't so big though. I'm on the look out for stylish, non-ott gothic pieces and this particular skirt made it into my 'maybe' pile.

>>8185519
Are you the anon that was thinking about pairing it with a navy/royal blue blazer?

>>8185592
It definitely is a poor man's moitie, but I also really like it. I've seen some decent coords with it. It's a good daily wear kind of skirt.

>>8185627
I wasn't. I never saw that post. I just wanted to know what the general opinion of it was since I know its pretty busy and that's not a lot of people's style.

>>8185592
I have it and it's pretty nice. The fabric is a bit thick and stiff though, and it's longer than your usual lolita skirt. I do like mine, it's good for my goth-y days.

Has anyone ordered from SwanKiss before? What's the quality like, do you need a SS?

>>8185627
That's me!

>>8185519
Funny to see this right after I posted about it haha. I really love this print, it's just so crazy and bright and a bit unusual. I LOVE that cut, I hope I can get my hands on it some day. Anyways I wish I could offer more of an opinion but it's still in the mail, getting the pink colorway. I think the way it's coorded also will depend on the style of the jsk...if you're getting the one pictured imo you'll definitely wanna go a bit dressier. Doesn't have to be OTT but might look a odd if you try to coord it casually. I think the shirred jsk, high waisted jsk, or the skirt is more suited for that.

>>8185524
Oof, I feel like disliking the lavender option is a bit of an unpopular opinion? I see a lot of people that like that one. The lavender almost looks a little too grey/muted to me and therefore it looks off but to each his own haha, I think because it's a bit more muted it's definitely a better choice for casual stuff like you said.


Is there a worn thread? I would love to see some coords in this but I've had a hard time finding photographs that aren't just official photos or secondhand sales ones. If not, does anyone have any photos?

>>8185789
The quality is pretty crappy tbh

>>8185820
I was thinking of the one posted actually. I'm really happy to see someone else loves how bright it is. I just know that I also love tacky shit and clusterfucks if color. I wasn't thinking of wearing this OTT, but definitely fancy.

>>8183483
Thank you! Going to keep a eye out to see if maybe they will restock.

>>8186086
Haha yes same here. I'm actually surprised, I think it's pretty tastefully done and turned out pretty nice considering how busy and detailed the print itself is (there's just so many *things*) and also the use of all those different bright colors.
Looking forward to seeing you in it cause I love finding coords of this print, hope you post it somewhere in the future!

>>8182801
Fuuuck, I need this in my life.

>>8185420
I'm just using polyvore currently but adding items doesn't work on mobile. So mobile sounds interesting.
Are you gonna make your code public?

>>8185592
i'm currently torn between pic related and the 'poor man's moitie' gothic windows one. The bird print looks gorgeous close-up but they messed up the design placement and created the skirt using several panels of material. It's frustrating to see such flawed yet beautiful pieces, if they were just plain ugly or more off than attractive, it would be easier to walk away.

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but where do you ladies with wider shoulders / larger busts buy your loliable cardigans?

>>8186574
I just buy boleros, honestly. Cardigans disappoint me a lot and they look awkward even if there's a single fit issue. With boleros you can cheat a bit more.
AP boleros fit pretty well and I have fat shoulders and a 100 cm bust.

>>8186574
anywhere that isnt from taobao or some other place frequently shopped and made for asians

>>8186579
>>8186580
but if you need more help:
try any young person's fashion store, the cute trend although kind of old, still chucks in a few basic cardis. i reckon making it more fanciful and loliable would help, like sewing on a bow or add a badge/rosette to it.
otherwise i recommend woolovers, they have pretty good value on wool, cashmere, silk and cotton cardigans.

>>8186367
Yeah, I'm really into open source. It's not to that point yet, but would be cool to get more ideas.

around what times do Innocent World's oddments lucky packs typically go up/are released? I know spring and autumn (I think?) but around what date range?

>>8186574
I've bought a custom bolero from Glitter Tale before, modcloth and romwe have a small range and I've been surprised by some cheap Axes Femme cardigans from auctions.

>>8182970
This would be right up my alley (I own like five dresses from fint/jm/etc. just like this) if not for the waist/boob area.
There's no way my bust is fitting in there, and it's not even that big (65-70D).

>>8183048
Despite my best attempts, I'm still the "buy whatever I want and try to scramble to put together outfits" type. In the past 3-4 years I've bought and purged my wardrobe probably 3 times, too, which doesn't help.
Right now I kind of have four separate wardrobes: a sweet, chocolate/food based one (5 main pieces, 3-4 blouses, a bolero, several pairs of tights/shoes/bags/etc. that can work with all of them); a classic one that's barely functioning (4 main pieces, one blouse, one bag, one pair of heels, and a smattering of accessories); a tiny gothic wardrobe (3 dream dresses, one blouse, one bolero, with hairpieces/accessories for all but still no shoes or a solid bag); and a more old-school sweet wardrobe (2 full sets with bags, shoes, and basic accessories that I can interchange).

I really want to improve my wardrobe building skills, but I'm terribly impulsive.

Anyone find Lolita socks at a mainstream store lately? Any stores good to find Lolita appropriate socks at besides Sock Dreams? When I started Lolita I thought tights were the way to go but it turns out I hate tights, so I'm ditching the tights and in the market for Lolita socks, ankle socks, knee socks, and OTKs.

>>8186890
Ozone has good options for lolita and some unusual styles.

>>8186910
but for mainstream stores, you can luck out at Target with the Merona or Mossimo lines having simple but textured OTKs.

>>8181772
>>8181831
>>8181923
Wow my shitty thing is actually being used I'm so happy
>>8182926
I used comic sans because I wanted to base it like a comic

Does anyone know if Maiden Clothing /ever/ marks stuff down. There's a Headbow I've wanted for like 5 months but I don't want to pay $50 for it.

>>8187135
very rarely. i've seen them do it, but only a couple times. other items i've noticed up for sale for years without a markdown.

>>8187141
That seems a bit silly. Like if it's there for 6 months+ with no buyer maybe it's too expensive?

2 questions about lolita makeup-

1. What's the real consensus on false lashes? I've heard conflicting advice about it. The ones I like to wear are more on the "natural" side, not the big brick o' lashes type, and I wear them on just the outer part of my eye.

2. Should the colors of your makeup match your coord? I know neutrals will always be a safe bet, but purple eyeshadow is my other favorite- will that look stupid with a pink x sax coord?

>>8187165
Falsies can be thick or thin. Either will be fine.

The purple eyeshadow seems like a bad idea. Especially if it's dark/vibrant.

>>8187183
It's mostly lavender, with a bit of medium purple for the crease. I'm going to try to work out something decent with pink, it just always seems to look a bit odd on me.

>>8186809
Around December/January and July/August

>>8187165

I think it depends on the coordinate, whether you have long enough eyelashes to begin with, and if you're comfortable with them.

I hate falsies and how they feel on my eyelids, but since I have short eyelashes that are hard to add volume to with just mascara, I feel like I should be wearing falsies with my coordinates.

>>8187200
thanks for the info!

>>8183819
I buy mostly Taobao, with some secondhand, some Bodyline and some new-from-brand purchases. As such, my spending patterns are usually saving for a few months, then blowing hundreds of dollars at a time on Taobao, with little bits of secondhand (never usually anything more than $70 plus shipping) or Bodyline (usually more shoes) or offbrand items (Restyle bags, small accessories) every month or so to break the spending monotony. The only things I've bought new from brands so far have been bags and a couple of pairs of socks. Looking at my wardrobe, and dividing by the amount of time I've been in lolita, it averages out at 1.5 main pieces and one other large item (shoes, bags, blouses) every month.

>>8183854
>except for indie which I'll shell out for firsthand because it's a bitch to find in the aftermarket
Really agree with this, it's so much easier to find brand second-hand.

>>8183959
I feel like I could have kept it more under control if I had stuck to one style more, but it was the flipping from gothic to classic in jewel tones to classic in dusty pastels that got me. My gothic wardrobe was really cohesive to start with even though I wasn't just using black, with really strong accessory game in black and blue and a couple of white items that worked too, but that got confused further down the line when I threw cream, wine, gold and grey into the mix (although to be fair, most of that was just mixing items from my classic wardrobe in with the gothic ones). So far I've managed to resist including silver, purple and bright red, at least. Originally the classic wardrobe was jewel tones that all matched with gold, with black items from my gothic wardrobe mixed in, but I got tempted by too many dresses in other colour palettes and had to add cream and brown base items to the mix too.

>>8184185
Mostly ugly, but I like the fan.

>>8185384
Join the facebook page. On 5 April at 10am they'll post a link to ticket sales, you just pay with paypal. Usually they don't sell out until the week before if at all.

Help me with your superior experience anons!

I want to start getting into mbok and Y!J auctions, but I'm wondering about shopping services.

Let's say I win a dress for $200, how much are fees and shipping (to the US) usually? I know that will depend a lot on the weight of the dress, but even just your past experiences would helpful to me.

Also if there is a guide or a good article about it some place please point me in the right direction.

>>8187557
For a rough estimate I always add $50-60 USD, which serves me fairly well depending on the end price. if you buy something for $200 that's roughly $20 in ss fees (10% of item cost), plus $10 in domestic shipping, and another $20-$30 in EMS shipping. A good number of sites (chibitenshi for example) have estimate calculators that are insanely useful.

>>8187571
Also note that I prefer to overestimate rather than underestimate all these costs, and it uses the 100 yen = $1 conversion rate for the sake of simplicity. Also use Paypal's conversion rates rather than google, they're always different.

And the EMS shipping is for one JSK, so if you buy in bulk it'll change.

>>8187580
>>8187571

Thanks anon, this was really helpful. I'm reading up on chibitenshi now, but I'm confused about how you actually bid on something. Does the shopping service do this for you as well?

>>8183819
>How often do you buy Lolita items?

Depends on how much money I have and if there are any shows I want to go to coming up.
I tend to spend all my extra cash on clothes or concert tickets.

On average once a week or every two weeks?
I've been buying a lot lately.

> Do you often buy main pieces or accessories?

Main pieces. I really need to focus on accessories and shoes for a while. If I tack one or two accessories on every order and get big bodyline shoe haul I should be set for a while.

> How many items do you get in a month?

Depends on the month. I didn't get anything in January or the beginning of Feb. The last couple weeks I went a little overboard. I I got three second had jsks, a bunch of accessories, two skirts, Pre-ordered Leif's last release, paid off an Elegy order and put in a blouse and shoe order with bodyline.

> Do you mostly buy from secondhand or direct from the brand?

I buy a lot of second hand. I love usagiyouhinten, I also buy a good bit of indie. I'm not really into the current trends so I don't buy much direct from the brands. I will be getting that Meta sailor OP when it comes out however.

I've never directly ordered from brands before and am a little confused. Is it possible to reserve an item from BtSSB when you're an overseas customer at all or do you have to use a shopping service? If you can do it yourself, how does it work?

>>tfw you have to wait for a shipping quote to purchase something and someone in the sellers country buys it from under you since they don't have to wait

This is the 2nd time in as many weeks, I don't want to 'ignore' the sellers as many say they want you confirm you will accept the shipping first, but I would rather buy flat out as I'm prepared for the cost of international shipping.

How long does AP on average take to respond when you go through the "Contact" page? I sent them two messages and it's been about a week and a half since the first, and nearly a week since I sent the second. I'm getting a little worried.

>>8187590
In Chibitenshi's case yes, she's a one woman operation. If you use Buyee or FromJapan though you can bid in real time on Yahoo auctions. However you can't bid real time on Mbok at all, so someone has to do it by hand. With Chibi you just send in the request and she gets to it when she can (She generally has great turnaround, but is extremely popular and offers in-store SS as well, so she gets bogged down during AP releases).

>>8187623

Thanks for the info anon you're a real ladybro.

>>8187608
...ITS IN THE RESERVATION TAB JESUS CHRIST

http://www.babyssb.co.jp/reservation/reservation_e/

>>8187612
Me?! At least in my case the seller was really polite and quick to inform me the item had sold. Crying Triple Fortune tears

Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I have this old Meta skirt that I like a bit too much to let go, but it doesn't quite fit in with my current wardrobe. Part of me is tempted to try and dye it black, but I'm not sure how it'd react to the screenprint.
I'm definitely going to go over the design with embroidery to make it look fancier/a bit more detailed, so if anyone has any suggestions as to designs to add I'd be more than happy to hear them!

>>8187684
I reckon even if it dyes the print, it won't ever make it the same shade as the fabric. I reckon it would be even cooler if the screenprint went charcoal grey, and the skirt black.
I'm planning on dying an ordinary Innocent World dress myself this week.

>>8187684
please don't modify brand (especially old brand)

>>8181772
Where the heck do I get cute gloves?

I want to do a vintage sweet look, but I can't find moderately priced gloves that are actually cute. I spent $6 on ebay ones and I hate myself now.

>don't want to end up spending $30 on brand gloves I'll coord only once or twice

>>8187698
It's her skirt, anon. She can do whatever she pleases to it.

>>8187698
what does it matter to you? shes never going to let it go, she can burn it if she wants

has anyone ever bought from this taobao brand? i skipped on this release because i need to save money and i wasn't sure about the quality. are they good?
http://tw.taobao.com/item/44071474879.htm

>>8187703
Taobao! I got these really nice ones for <$4 The lace is really nice and thick plus they came in a bunch of colors. I can dig up the link if you'd like? (Sorry the cuff isn't showing real well)

>>8187774
curious about this too.

>>8187806
Thanks for the photo! When you were ordering, how could you tell the gloves would be ok lace? When browsing I can't really tell the quality of the item, i fear that the lace will be thin or shiny and its just not obvious in the photo.

>>8187813
I looked through a /lot/ of listings to find one I thought looked suitable. I only buy lace gloves if there are decent worn photos in the listing.

http://h5.m.taobao.com/awp/core/detail.htm?id=4542397347&spm=2014.12317209.0.0

Although I suppose even an awesome looking picture could be reused from another shop and might not be what you get haha. Checking the reviews is helpful most of the time as well!

>>8187806
Sauce on the ring?

Someone comfort me, please.

I usually bid on mbok through Japonica, so I emailed them about an urgent bid more than 4 hours ago (technically 6 but I rewrote it because I didn't notice I left out 'order form' in the subject field a bit later).

They still haven't gotten back to me, usually they're not this slow. I still have 20 hours left on my bid but it stresses me out so much.

OH MY GOD I just checked my item again and the seller canceled the bid for my item. No wonder japonica didn't email me back.
Holy fuck.
I don't want to pay some greedy western bitch over $150 for this fucking bag. UGH.

>>8187844
*hugs* everything will be ok and dont worry you'll find the item again. Or you can pay a greedy western bitch for it.

>>8187835
Thanks! I wish I could just get them on ebay or something but it seems like I might have to make a taobao order.

>>8187844
I'm a noob to japanese auction sites. Why do some sellers cancel bids like that?

>>8187684
Destroying that beautiful skirt would be a sin.

>>8187838
I'm sorry anon it's a custom piece. The stone is Alexandrite and is teal/purple depending on the light.

(I need to get it cleaned oops)

>>8187863
They hate westerners. I'm not joking. Or they want to keep it in Japanese markets.

What's your opinion on copying others' coords? Acceptable or not? Acceptable to share pics online or not?

>>8187908
I can understand inspiration, but the main creative property in lolita is coord design. Copying someone's coord is like... copying someone's handwriting. Yeah it's nothing major or copyright-infringement-worthy, but it's still just kind of off-putting.

In practice however, I don't memorize coords enough to say "You stole <lolita>'s coord!! All the way down to the rings!!" At most I'd just say "I saw something like that on Tumblr/cgl once. Looks nice in real life."

.. I know I switched points. I'm basically saying only hardcore fans of a particular person will notice you stole the idea, but it's still kind of off-putting to do in the first place.

>>8187844
>>8187852

Wtf is this, has /cgl/ just turned into another fucking hug box. Fuck off anon, sucks to fucking suck.

>>8187908
I don't think you should copy coords piece-for-piece, but really unless it's an incredibly popular coord I doubt many people would notice.

>>8187165
I think it depends on the coordinate. Thicker lashes might be more suitable for OTT outfits and more extravagant events. I personally just save my falsies for those bigger events because they're a pain to deal with (weight on my lids, applying/staying/removing). As for the purple, I think that it can easily go wrong if you over-do it. Try using a lighter purple or have dual colors, pink and purple (with purple on the outside half of the lid).

>>8187948
Different anon, but fuck you, man. These are legit lolita feels (even if they're probably more appropriate for feel threads). It's not like we're suddenly tumblr and accepting shitty coordinates because "everything is lolita".

>>8187623
Wait, I thought Buyee wasn't to be trusted?

>>8187990
I think that they're legit (and run by Tenso) they just have BS fees and end up being more expensive. But they're a last-minute option if you don't have FJ set up or something since they don't make you make a deposit.

>>8187948
yeah!! how dare people have feelings! don't be nice to each other, ever! that's for sjws!

>>8187863
>>8187867
More often than being racist, they don't want to sell dresses to men or companies, and want to sell it to fellow lolitas.

>>8187908
Unacceptable. A coord is a reflection of your personal style and taste, like art.

>>8187948
BOO HOO, YOU'RE RIGHT, FUCK YOU! FUCK EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD! YOURE ALL ITAS. THIS IS 4CHAN, NOT TUMBLR! FEELINGS? WHAT ARE THOSE? ALL I KNOW IS LAUGHING AT OTHERS' MISERY. LIKE A REAL 4CHANNER. AMIRITE?

>>8187429

Sounds exactly like the progression of my wardrobe -- going from pink to pastels then jewel colours, adding black, then AP decides to do navy -- and now my wardrobe is all over the place. At least I still have the space for so many different colours, so I'm keeping them all for now.

>>8187908

Depends on what you mean by copying. If you're just taking a few ideas, eg- you're copying a colour scheme, or an idea like wearing stripes with polkadots, or flower crowns, then it's not really copying. So long as you're putting your own twist on things that's just taking inspiration, and is totally encouraged.

If you're talking about tracking down the exact same dress, exact same socks, exact same accessories, to wear in exactly the same as the girl you're copying, then that's actually a little creepy and somewhat pathetic. It stinks like you don't think you're good enough to come up with your own ideas, and the thought of someone sitting down at their computer devoting time buying all these things to match a coord they found online, instead of buying what they like or exercising their creativity, is a bit sad.

Another thing to take note is that it's always possbile for someone to accidentally make the same coord, for eg- someone came on cgl long ago saying she had the exact same hat and jsk as was worn by another more e-famous lolita, in fact, she'd bought the hat to match the jsk, and already had both in her closet by the time the other girl posted her coord. But although she used a different blouse and accessories, since the two biggest pieces were the jsk and the hat, she would end up looking pretty similar to the e-famous lolita. Even though the ideas were arrived at seperately, they could still end up looking the same. Especially in lolita where everyone buys from the same few brands. So I wouldn't automatically assume someone was copying another person just because they happen to look similar. Sometimes obvious ideas occur to many people simultaneously.

>>8187684
Be careful with the kind of dye you use- you'll want something fiber reactive that can be used at a low temperature (so as not to melt or stain the screenprint)

This comm rustles my petticoats. Lolita is not a "for hire" sideshow and I don't want nasty ass children's hands near my brand.

>>8188187
It's a cute idea, since kids always see lolitas as princesses, but yeah, I would not wear brand or anything I care about.

>>8188187
Not in your comm--is this for a charity? I think it's weird that an organization reached out to your group for this--did one of your comm leaders volunteer y'all?

>>8188187
Then don't go?? Problem solved

>>8188187

Oh man, that's adorabel tbh. For hire side show? Who cares I would find that so much fun.

>mfw nothing fun like that happens in my comm

>>8188227
From reading the post they say they've only been invited, not committed. Seems like its up to the comm and some of the members if they choose to participate.

>>8188187
Not sure where you're getting for hire sideshow? There was no mention of payment and personally I think like another anon mentioned its a cute idea. Not all children are grubby or uncontrollable and its a nice way to leave a positive impression. Though if you're so opposed then just pass it up. I'm sure someone will take your place if the comm is as bad as your vendetta makes it out to be.

>>8188250
*adorable

>autocorrect fails me again

>>8188250
Anon you sound adorable yourself. Hope you get to do more cute and fun things with your community soon.

>>8187908
Honestly feel free to copy one by one for your personal offline wardrobe. It's just clothing, not an art form. I'd probably just not share my copied coord on the internet or bring it proudly to a meet since that seems to be more about an art contest. Even if you can get away with wearing a full brand set right from their fashion shoot but I guess that's not uncreative at all...

Does anyone have a good guide to different prints from different brands? I'm kinda sorta new to lolita and would like to know what kind of prints are available on the primary and secondary market. (and maybe something with prices, rarity, popularity etc) I have about $4000 I am planning on spending on a couple different sets.

>>8188295
Lolibrary is the best bet to give you an idea of what brands release, and which is your favorite. As far as what's available on the secondary market god only knows. Rarity, popularity, and price is just kinda something you pick up, it changes. But your best bet is to not give a fuck about what's popular and buy what you like and what flatters you best.

>>8188295
Just look at the secondary market then you know what's available. For that amount of money and with the intend to get sets you should probably buy first hand.

>>8188295
Lolibrary and sales sites. There is no guide as prices change constantly - look at sugary carnival - no longer ridiculously expensive because ott sweet is dying (or possibly dead?)
If you have $4000 this is a fantastic amount to set yourself up with a good wardrobe. What style are you getting into?

>>8188302
well, there are many popular prints out of production, I would just like to know what's available, since there might be a print I'd like better than what's currently being produced.
>>8188301
this looks like a decent website. I was looking over on the lolita wiki, and the info there was geared heavily for poorfags. It didn't really give me any info on what I was looking for.

>>8188310
I don't know yet, I'm 5' 8" tall, 25" waist, 34" bust, 35" hip. 130lb.

I'm trying to decide what would look good with my body type

>>8188317
Your measurements will fit just about everything, although newer (post 2010ish) might be too big. Look out for length though, you might find that a lot of things are a bit short since they're generally sized to be knee length on 5' 2" ~ 5' 5" girls. If you figure out a style or specific dresses you like we can probably tell you more about them.

>>8188323
ok, I've felt I'm a little tall compared to most lolitas. I have a Alice and the Pirates coord I made a couple months ago and I feel the darker colors work well with me. I have American Indian blood, so my skin is darker as well. Being tall and dark I feel that darker colored dress might look best but I'm not sure.

>>8188330
AatP is awesome, half my wishlist is from them and they make up a decent chunk of my wardrobe. But don't feel like your skintone limits you to darker colors, if you want to give pastel or dusty colors a shot you can. Lolibrary sorts by brand, so you can scroll through their offerings.
If you find a particular AatP dress you love I can probably tell you rarity and price.

>>8188250

Not that anon, but

>would like us to run/operate the lifesize candyland game
>interacting with guests

Yeap. Sounds like budget freebie princess sideshows. I would boycott this, personally. Not like we don't already have enough to deal with with tv wanting to make us all into crazy living dolls for publicity, last thing I need is some normalfag pestering me for photos with his kid when I'm out getting coffee in my frills.

>>8188339

whoops. mean to reply to >>8188251

>>8188337
ok thanks, I'm probably going to retire for the night but I'll look up the next lolita thread tomorrow if this one is dead by then, and if I find anything I like I'll post it.

It'll probably keep lurking and asking questions here and there for a while more before making a decision anyway. I finished paying off my car and don't really have any expenses so I'll probably have much more disposable income in the future anyway.

>>8188337
>>8188345
although I do have one more question before I go to bed, are there any other secondary markets besides lacemarket that are good?

>>8188349
There's a ton, yahoo auctions and mbok being the most popular (you do need a shopping service for these), but there are a number of other second hand stores, they should be findable through links in the sticky.

>>8188353
ok cool thanks!

>>8188345
Just research a lot and find clothes you like. Make a folder on your computer. Put every item you would love to own into it. Every week or month go through, and if there are items you are not wanting so much anymore, put those in a secondary folder. Every second time you go through the main folder, go through the secondary folder. If you are sure you wouldn't want to own something anymore, delete it! Do not think about how items would go together, just pick what you like based purely on the item itself. After a few months you will have a good idea of your style.
Learn what goes well with your skin and undertones. Having darker skin is no reason to not wear pastels. I am just going to say that I really appreciate your acknowledging that you want to dress to suit your skin tone because often people disregard this and wear colors that make them look diseased. You just need to find the correct shades and tones. Go to a fabric store and look at how different colors make your skin look. You can ask them for samples of different shades, and check at different times throughout the day in different lighting if you are unsure.

Neither of those ideas are obligatory but it really helped me.

>>8188370
haha ok thanks! I'll probably try this out. I've found one I really like so far (in navy) but it looks like it's not available in the u.s... damn
http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore/b39js203/

>>8188311
Going through lolibrary is an idea but overall I recommend to just lurk a lot. Go through tumblr lolita and brand tags, lolita themed blogs, egl wardrobe posts to get a feel of what is around and how it looks if it's worn. I check everything that's new on lacemarket daily. You'll just find more and more things you like, the ride never ends.

>>8188372
You have good taste anon. I haven't ordered from Baby before but check their US site, or get a shopping service. You really want to consider the length. This is most likely going to hit you mid thigh.

>>8188372
>http://www.babyssb.co.jp/onlinestore/b39js203/
You can order from Baby directly, they've got instructions on their site. However the dress is out of stock on the website, so you'd be asking them to check for it at all their shops in Japan if you mailed them I believe. There's also Baby NYC and SF, who have their own storefronts who can special order sometimes.

>>8188376
if anon wants to, she can also look into underskirts to make some pieces appropriate lengths for her.

Also here are some other secondhand sites, these are based in japan but over oversea orders:
http://www.closetchildonlineshop.com/ (has an english guide and only ships with EMS)
http://usagiyouhinten.ocnk.net/ (Email or cart but the invoice details will be dealt with email. Variety of shipping options)
http://www.wunderwelt.jp/ (never ordered from here but cheap/damaged brand, site is a bit clunky but you can find some possible things you like)
http://www.maidenclothing.net/ (never ordered from here either but another secondhand shop)

Some brands also have english sites or ways to order overseas (ex: Maxiciman has a rakuten to order from, Infanta - a taobao brand - set up an Aliexpress for overseas customers)

Good luck building your wardrobe anon!

>>8188375
I hate tumblr so much, but I do plan on doing plenty of lurking
>>8188376
Damn being tall.
>>8188378
Yeah first thing I did was check if it was available stateside but it's not. I may try and contact them . That's the first dress I've seen that I've felt I really want.
>>8188384
Sweet thanks, I'll give these a harder look tomorrow. I used to buy a lot of stuff from Russia and Israel, so I'm no stranger to ordering stuff online and working with foreigners. I have heard it can be hard sometimes buying Lolita overseas because many Japanese don't want to sent Lolita that is in the country out of the country.

>>8188317
>same measurements and height
>lighter by 15lbs
man I need to get back to working out, skin fat is worst

>>8188311
>not even knowing what lolibrary is
>"currently produced" jesus christ
oh god. you seem like a rich bitch who thinks she knows whats up and is ready to look fab. Fucking lurk more. You're going to look like a hot mess with that mindset. Good personality, yes, but money aint gonna make you kawaii.

Anyway.
$4000 is a great amount to start, so advice is necessary.
Start a wishlist of items you like using lolibrary. Determine your favorite brand/s, and which you are going to ignore.

Hypothetical: Lets say you like sweet.
You'd most likely like Angelic Pretty and Baby The Stars Shine Bright, and maybe Innocent World. Maybe you'll ignore Victorian Maiden, Mary Magdalene, and Moi Meme Moitie. I'd start by looking at everything on AP's, BTSSB's, and IW's sites. Everything. Thats all they have in stock, thats all that you can buy from them.
Then, google for what their upcoming releases are. Thats whats about to be released anywhere from the next week to the next few months.

Everything else? Fair game on the second hand market.
Second hand market includes: mbok, y!ja, usagiyouhinten, fururun, lacemarket, lolita sales in english, egl comm sales, and many many more. Research on how to buy from those.

And good luck.

Just got this email from Fairy Angel:

Dear Princess,

We are shocked because in these days there's no order to our shop.
We don't know why ... we just crying.
What happened with our shop?? and our dear customers???
Or is this for the crazy spring?
We really want to serve you sincerely.

Best regards

>>8188536
I started laughing so hard when i got that, feel kind of bad for them but....

>>8187684
Please don't, I think it would be very cute for an otome look.

>>8188251
This comm is in a predominantly Latino area..... A lot of older ladies asking "do you do parties?" And for being a small comm they have a weird eay of running the comm and it has a hariarchy feel.... Like only ONE person makes meets and they number them.... Meet #1, meet #2. I'm not kidding. If you try to make a meet this person will make it for you and number it even if she isn't going.

>>8188536
I got that same email too!
Lol, honestly though it's mostly because they don't stock anything good that I would care to buy.

>>8188659
I like one or two of their bags but frankly whoever takes their pictures must also work for Bodyline, they are that bad.

>>8188536
Oh god, that is so adorable.
I've been eying some stuff on there, maybe I should go for it now.

>>8187698
>destroying brand
Bitch pls, if that girl tried to sell that skirt it wouldn't even be off the comm sell pages til it cost $80 or less.

>>8188394
I try to keep in shape, it can be hard sometimes
>>8188397
I just so happen to have an education and a job that pays decently. Like I said, I'm a little new to this and most of my knowledge on the subject I learned from a friend knowing her.

I plan on doing more lurking and asking occasional questions.

Thanks for the advise though.

>>8188947
>I just so happen to have an education
>advise

are there any big collective downloads of lolita pictures available anywhere?

>>8189065
>lolita pictures
What are you even asking for?

Check the archives.

>>8188397
>she clearly said she plans to lurk more
>she clearly states she is new to Lolita and is asking for a guide on prints
>she clearly states she is wanting said guide of both current and old production Lolita to find a print she likes

Jesus, does cgl even know how to read anymore?

>>8189076
i mean so i don't have to right click, change tab, save, scroll 50 times

>>8189065
Everytime i see this dress in this exact cut and colour i like it a bit more. What is wrong with me? ;_;

What's the best price I could hope to get on any version of Mercator?

What's a good EU seller for petticoats? Looking for a bigger A-line in particular.
And can someone repost the comparison picture of different pettis when worn a seagull made once?

are MM's listed measurements the actual size of the dress, or the size your body has to be to fit?

>>8189083

>using 4chan as their first stop for info
>not expecting to get trolled
>not actually lurking and just posting buncha questions, expecting answers to be handed to them
>not expecting to get sent to milanoo
>nobody actually sending her to milanoo

Eh, it's a pretty tame reply imo

>>8183819
I buy based on season and personal preference. Sometimes I spend $4000 in one month, other months I buy nothing. My rent is 1/6 my income so a splurge is okay every now and then.

Girlonsunday is in her mid- late twenties. Her mother supports her shopping habit because her parents both have very lucrative jobs. She's fairly private because a close friend at her uni used to spread lies about her on the internet. I've never met her but a few of my friends have.