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Do you think otome will ever get big enough where there are substyles, like with lolita? I love otome, but I'm partial to outfits from Jane Marple than Leur Getter.

>> No.8159501

>>8159496
"big enough"
>Jane Marple celebrating 30th anniversary
>Milk around for 40 years

I think that otome is such a loose style that there is no real classification/segregation needed? There's definitely a different aesthetic in JM and LG, but you can certainly like both or mix and match items.

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>>8159501
Sorry, I meant to say big enough in relation to the popularity and widespread of lolita fashion around the world.

ETC/Leur Getter definitely is more cutesy/feminine

>> No.8159511

>>8159496
Something about lolita is costumey which lends itself to have sub styles and themes so to speak. Otome kei is more just like regular people's clothing with whacky colours and prints in my view.

>> No.8159515

>>8159511
Though yeah, just to add, the different brands definitely have unique aesthetics. Milk, ETC and JM are all so fundamentally different from each other, which I think is why people find it hard to grasp what otome kei "is".

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>>8159496
No please no. Otome is really casual and "do what you want", while lolita has so many rules and guidelines. The only reason substyles in lolita exist is because we need rules and categories like stupid.

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>>8159511
How DID the sub styles come about anyway? And why does lolita come with lifestylers when you won't find that in any other kind of fashion? I think it's strange for lolita to be so focused on communities, both online and in person.

Here's some more JM to keep it on topic

>> No.8159523

>>8159521
but lolita is one of the least lifestyler/community focused j-fashion out there.

>> No.8159525

It would be nice to have substyles or categories so I know what to look for. I love looking for inspiration to pics like in >>8159496 but I either have to be brand specific or wade through every type of otome aesthetic under the sun.

Gyaru has substyles, no?

>> No.8159530

>>8159521
Other types of fashions comes with lifestylers too! Punk for example. But lolita says nothing about music taste like most other fashions usually do.

>> No.8159532

>>8159523

really? id love to know other fashions that do this as well! lolita has egl, separate threads on forums, guidebooks, mooks, fashion shows, conventions, and many lolitas blog and vlog about their life. if otome has an online community I'd love to join

>> No.8159537

>>8159532
Gyaru, yanki etc can also be lifestyle

>> No.8159563

>>8159496
Man I love the kind of Americana look this has with the lettermen jacket.
Does anyone have any other coords like this?

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>>8159563
fint puts out letterman jackets and university-styled pullovers every now and then

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>> No.8159642

>>8159626
What brand is this? I love it!

>> No.8159649

>>8159642
fint

>> No.8160133

>>8159521
There used to be a lot of lifestyle mori girls that ran blogs but it seems that kinda died out in 2012.

I would love to see more blogs on otome kei. It seems like most people have just moved to tumblr though and aren't particularly interested in the traditional blog format.

>> No.8163676

Any recommendations for otome or mori kei blogs/tumblrs?

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Thoughts on using these in otome and more otome-ish lolita coords? They remind me of Jane Marple's 4-strap shoes (although one strap short and admittedly nowhere near as nice).

>> No.8164694

>>8164692
They should work nicely.

>> No.8164728

>>8159521
>don't find lifestylers in any other kind of fashion
Goth is very lifestyle-y, IMO. Things have changed a little in the past couple of years with people feeling less that they had to stick to one style or forever be branded a poser, but a lot of goths dress only in goth/black, decorate their rooms to match, listen to music that matches, etc. Certainly more goths do that than lolitas do.

>> No.8164731

>>8164728
Goths and hippies are EXTREMELY lifestyle oriented. The fashion only follows the mindset. Same goes for most western subculture fashions, because we used to give people flak for not being a "reeeeal" goth/metalhead or whatever while japaroos didn't. Now it's different but that mindset is still there in the west.

>> No.8164776

>>8164692
W2c?
Source

>> No.8164784

>>8164731
I think what is associated with lifestyle lolita is really fucking weird though. Lolita lifestyle originally was hanging around the streets like a punk, not trying to be some idealized Victorian girl whose hobbies are tea and backing and lady things.

>> No.8165028

>>8159506
any one got sauce on that blouse?

>> No.8165326

>>8165028
It's all Leur Getter

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>>8159496
Couldn't you pretty much say what aspect of otome you enjoy though? Like I enjoy the stuff that trends more towards a classic look and not so much the wacky prints.

>> No.8165375

Are there any good taobao sites geared towards otome?

>> No.8165414

>>8159521
>other fashions don't have lifestylers
>goth
>punk
>boho
>etc.

I guess its more likely that people inclined to the lifestyle get into the fashion than the other way around but it does happen all over in alt fashions. If it has an ideallic lifestyle associated with it, there are people who follow it.

>> No.8165437

>>8165375
Not really. There are a lot of sites selling fint/amavel/axes femme replicas now, though.
I am always surprised that no one has ever replicated JM stuff, considering how highly-desired and expensive it is (as far as otome goes).

>> No.8165548

>>8165437
There are some replicas of some bags and a strawberry print dress. JM even posted something on their blog about the fake dresses

>> No.8165748

guys can you help me out? i found a japanese clothing store with a variety of brands but i cannot for the life of me remember the name of the store. it had one brand that was like "dioblo dieble" or something weird, also had a brand called barbie, but that doesn't help on google search. it had a lot of preppy/school type of clothes and some of the models looked like they were in middle school or something. kind of expensive as well.

>> No.8165913

>>8165748
Do you remember what street it was on, or what area?

>> No.8165918

>>8164692
Pleaaaase. Need to know where to get these.
I'm so tired of being on the search for the perfect strap shoes ;_;

>> No.8166462

>>8165913
nope, really sucks

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Live!

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>> No.8169456

Are there any sales comms for otome? More so Jane Marple? I don't tend to see it second hand that much.

>> No.8174467

up!!

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>>8169403
Hnnng what store is this, anyone know? Hell what print is that? - Jane Marple I'm guessing. Pic unrelated, just an attempt at contribution to balance out the dumb questions. Cath Kidston does quite a lot of otome-like stuff.

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I just happen to find a pair of these at the Nordstrom Rack.
They look super cute on, and are really comfy.

For those looking for a few strap shoe
They are Born and the style is called Bennett
It looks like there, is black, tan, light blue-ish and this red/brown

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>>8175014
replying to my own post, but while browsing their site, these ones seem like they would be cute with Otome too.
Also they have really cute Oxfords.

>> No.8175112

>>8174838
Ahiruya Apartment, a select shop in Kobe

>> No.8175152

>>8169456
I get most of my JM stuff off yahoo japan auctions. You can also buy it on lacemarket, mbok, grand bazaar lolita, egl_comm_sales and all the usual lolita resale places (go for Japanese sites over western markets).

>> No.8175526

>>8169425
Looking for an op like this so hard.

>> No.8175531

>>8169456
>I don't tend to see it second hand that much.

This makes it seem like you never ever check anything but sales on Facebook, LM, or Egl Comm. There is a metric fuckton of Jane Marple stuff spread out over Y!J and Mbok as well as every resale shop.

>> No.8175786

>>8175014
Thanks anon, I just purchased these in tan on Amazon!!

>> No.8176993

>>8175786
You gon be so cute!