/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>tfw all the comms are slow today

>>8157993
Ok I get that the lace was bad and overall not the best for a coord but seriously adding a headbow would make it look like a costume? Imo it would suit the coord more than a floral piece. I don't get this group sometimes

>>8161918
Also the fact that Elizabeth, I'm not sure what she said, had her comment deleted but what about the girl constantly bringing up the fact that owned the dress and the lace wasn't that bad. Girl that lace was dreadful! There was no defending that

>>8161918

>>8161930

But.. that skirt isn't a salopette and a salopette still isn't Lolita..

>>8161918
I'm going to post the full cap to make it easier to read.

>>8161965
Honestly, I can't see skirts like these and not think of that one pic of PT trying to wear a salopette.

>>8161965
totes not lolita but still cute af

Selling a beautiful Innocent World plaid JSK.
Unfortunately it's much too large for me. It's not listed on lolibrary as far as I've searched. Email for more photos! Interested in trades!! 100 USD

Her edits keep getting better

D-did someone just post real work?

>>8162214
Who the fuck is Elizabeth and why does she refuse to read the rules?!!

>>8162448
I thought it was another troll until she posted more pics of the bag. That is darn impressive.
The number of people there who can't see that they are being trolled and think that people could get prints of things like CDC "years ago on etsy" saddens me.

>>8162296
Is anyone else looking at the Rufflechat Uncensored thread about her? Apparently she has admitted to being a troll, but the person hasnt posted caps or anything

>>8162448
This is cute! Is it really handmade? It looks well-constructed and I actually like that fabric choice.

>>8162531
I wish I knew anyone in this group to get an invite.

>>8162549
It's public...

>>8162555
It doesn't show up when I run a search for it?

>>8162749
It's called

RC Uncensored: Lolita Debate

>>8162448
Someone tell this person to head over to the new sewing group! This actually looks nice. The bodice is too tubelike for my taste (I don't like having the dress all up in my armpits like that) but the construction looks solid. The bag is really cool as well.

>>8162448
Looks a little bit short and the way the photo was taken reminds me of Taobao.
>>8162506
She made the bag herself? That's impressive, does she have some sorry of tutorial?

>>8162795
>*some sort of tutorial
Sorry.

>>8162531
Just read through. Glad my mention of the apartments brought some stuff up, but I would love to see the caps of that "trolling" conversation.

>>8162822
Me too. I don't buy it for multiple reasons

>>8162795
the shortness in particular interested me, i'm 147cm

>>8162760
>>8162531
Here is caps of the thread.
inb4 ban.

>>8162844
Yeah. Apparently there will be caps soon on RC:U so we'll see soon.

>>8161965
Looks like an underbust salo to me, the waist comes up way too high to be called a skirt and the straps aren't detachable.

Or, rather, it could still be called a jumper skirt, it's just a different, non-lolita type of jumper skirt.

Before I got into lolita that's what I thought of as a jumper skirt, because a jumper is like a romper in my area. Since the bottom was a skirt, it was a jumper skirt.

>>8162886
It's clearly too short to be a Lolita anything though
Like it's just a normal cute jfashion skirt.
It's not a salopette? and it's not relevant to Lolita
She called it "Hottie kawaii" though. That paired with posting something not Lolita just further proves how little she knows.

Girl asked: "But why you say mean stuff about girls who like brand?"

She admitted she could've misunderstood the message though, Raleigh's typing is weird af.

>>8162911
A salopette is the same thing as a jumper skirt at least in my area of the US

A lolita JSK is more like a Europe style "jumper dress" though obviously different in overall design.

You are correct that it's not lolita, but "salopette" and "jumper skirt" aren't Lolita-specific terms. It IS a jumper skirt, and it IS a salopette, just not a lolita-style JSK/salo.

I didn't see the original post or if she tagged it as lolita, but as it is, it's not wrong to call it a salopette or jumper skirt.

>>8162925
After basic Google search, most people think of salopettes as overalls. IMO, in the lolita aesthetic, salopettes should at least have an overalls look to them (same style straps, square-ish front, etc)

>>8162923
She's clearly talking about people trolling her.

>>8163016
Exactly.
Also she obviously meant it as a Lolita JSK (Considering it's in a Lolita sewing pattern group and she follows up all patterns with "change everything and it looks just like this Lolita __ !!" ) Which it isn't
And it isn't a Salopette in the Lolita sense either.

>>8162856
All of this is kind of vague and weird to me. Why are we going into so much detail about this person and their life? So they made a few crazy rants and did some nutsy stuff, but I thought people HAD established that she was using a fake name, yet there are people saying they know her? And why is all this about her creating a business that never actually existed? Why is any of this relevant? I thought I was following this situation but now I'm just very, very confused.

>>8163090
yeah, i don't get it. in what way is she "making money off of" us, and why would anyone need to be "warned"?

>>8163164
Shes crazy and it's funny. That's all I need to know.

>>8163164
I agree. I think the whole thing is pretty crazy. And tbh, I doubt that she really told someone that she's trolling. I think screencaps would have gone up asap after a conversation like that

>>8163205
She posted screenshots and that's not what raleigh said at all. So you're right.

>>8163210
Did she? I only saw 1 random screenshot on rc uncensored. Are there more elsewhere?

>>8163090
Basically people are finding out that she's certified cray cray based on her behavior around the internet, that's all it is

>Ive been into lolita for four years now (since I was 12) but ive been enjoying it in my "safe bubble" away from gossip and judgement from other lolitas. By judgment well, usually I only wear..the "R" word due to the fact AP's (and other brands I honestly dont pay a ton of attention to) bust sizing is quite small and mine is the opposite of small to say the least so you see my issue.

Why do fattychans always try to pretend that the only thing keeping them from wearing brand is their "large bust"

I am a fattychan as well and I know my bust isn't the only problem, lord

>>8163309
>the "R" word
Wtf is that?

>>8163316
replicas

>>8163316

Replica...lmao

>>8163309
I know a girl bigger than her that wears only Burando.
I don't know why they make so many excuses, like they're not even trying.

>>8163309
Yes, I see her issue. Fatty entitlement. I don't even think most replica-chans get that much hate RL, they just get ignored and it hurts their fee-fees. But no one really cares about their dresses/coords because replica.

>>8163316
I was trying to figure out for so long what retards had to do with lolita.
Aw man, I was the retard all along.

>>8148186
At no point was I ever the least bit salty.

>>8163309
I guess they are trying to trick people into thinking they just have huge porn star tits and an otherwise normal body. Eg an attractive body type as opposed to land whale.
Pro tip absolutely nobody is fooled. Any time someone mentions their huge bust I just assume they're a cow. Sorry busty gals

how do i login? keen to meet sum new frens :^)
add me plzzzzzz.

Looks like Raleigh took down all the "handmade" brand dresses except for Victoria's original post then blocked Victoria. A moment of silence for our lost lulz.

>>8164936
She blocked me too, the group doesn't appear when I click on the link

crotchety old bitch lol

Yo BtB posted earrllyyyy

>>8165622
I'm loving the early 2000's "no rejected secrets" gif at the bottom.

Also the sass of the timing of the posting and the first secret. Gj mods.

>>8165622

>>8163309
I like to mention skirts. That clears the 'muh bust' illusion up right away. Though her whole tone on that post has me rolling my eyes already even replicas aside. She has bigger problems that replicas, I can see that coming.

>>8163309
>>8164028
>tfw nobody ever believes that you're 5'5", 71kg with a 25" waist.

>>8165809
100% this, though.

>>8165767
Lol I know right? I had a good chuckle xD

>>8165809
Not really. There's a difference between being a 30F and a 40F. If you're that size, you're going to be hard pressed to look halfway decent in even Metas full shirred skirts. With boobs that big, it's going to give the illusion of floating tits over a too far stretched out skirt. Whereas someone that is 30F may find that they prefer to wear skirts and have a variety to choose from with a smaller waist, say 24, 26".

>>8166046

(not that anon) Isn't that the whole point? Bringing up skirts means fatty chans will be forced to admit that it's their waistline and not their bustline that's the real problem.

The anon you responded to isn't trying to help a fattychan, you realise? She wants fatties to admit they're fat rather than trying to hide behind "muh bust"

>>8164977
here's something new from her.

>>8166330
I asked if I had been blocked because I had a pattern I wanted to ask a question about, and she responded with pic related. Honest to god all I did was like some of the pictures in the thread.

>>8166330

Part of being a pretty girl is being salty as hell. Part of being a polite pretty girl is hiding your salt.

>>8166454
>gang bang
what an interesting choice of words

God what a tyrannical cunt.

anon you are better off joining the Lolita Sewing Collective group, its much better, with people who actually know what they're doing

>>8166490
Yeah I am in the lolita sewing collective too, I told her I was going to a different group instead. Wording is... interesting.

>this entire thread

Anyone know why this girl was banned from the mentor group?

>>8168220
What group is this in?

>>8168289
positive & plus size lolita q&a

>>8168303
Am a member of this group and never realized. Bring on teh lulz

> tfw fatty chan without landwhale tits to hide behind

>>8168220
she wasn't banned

>>8168878
oh really, what happened

>>8168890
not that anon but the rules in lfm say you get removed from the group if you comment without asking the mentors first so its probably that

>>8168894
ah okay, that seems likely

Is anyone else getting tired of people treating lolita like a social/feminist/etc. movement? I see this on rufflechat quite a bit. For the love of god it's clothes people, not a revolution.

>>8171322
Meeeeee. I'm a raging liberal, but I agree that not everyone wants to hear me wanking on and on about it. And honestly I'd rather have deep discussions with interested parties than apathetic circlejerking in a large group.

Really? I find odd she had never heard of the book before. But this is Chanel.

>>8171543
Kek
Kek
Kek

I'm dying right now this is too good

>>8176901
Wow. That is one whiny-ass buyer.

>>8176901
I'd love to see any comments on the buyers post.

>>8176915
Honestly they are both in the wrong for different reasons. Buyer's textwall and horrid grammar don't help her case

>>8176921
How do you see the seller as being in the wrong? If someone didn't pay my invoice and instead sent a payment from another PP address, I'd be noping right out of there...

>>8176918
Item is My Sweet Mates Kumya Strawberry & Lace HB in pink

>>8176930
You can sign up on lacemarket with any email address right? Paying with a different paypal address is a little odd. Otoh, personally, for security purposes I don't trust lacemarket and wish I never signed up with the same email as paypal. Don't they also say message the buyer and verify the paypal email address? That doesn't make it "unverified"
2ndly $10 to ship a headbow from MA to NY is dumb. She estimated on the listing shipping to be $8-$10, but charges the higher estimate for shipment to one state over. That's not right.

>>8176901
To be fair to the whiny girl, $10 from MA to NY is crazy, she should have just passed altogether.

>>8176949
If I see someone overcharging for shipping, if I really want it, I message them and ask if they can ship it a better way with some polite suggestions. Some people are stubborn and have no idea how paypal or USPS work and I pass. Just going on and buying it and sending half what they ask for shipment is crazy. It's also really cheap for a brand print headbow.

>>8176901
Seeing that stupid rant would be the nail in the coffin for me--what stupid bitch thinks that the shipping fee listed will somehow magically be less for them, causes a seller grief, and then has the nerve to complain about it publicly?

>>8176933
What a fucking cunt. She had the nerve to leave the seller poor feedback? Fuck this bitch.

>>8176901
>>8176933
And bless you for sharing.

>>8176956
Exactly. It's different if you ask about the price beforehand, but sending only partial payment is bullshit.

>>8166330
What
>square dancing "official dance" of the USA
>200 years

not a history major here,
but that does not seem correct.

>>8176970
I can understand her frustration with sellers overcharging shipping but sending a half payment is lulzy as fuck.
I'm confused, the seller claims there was a 2nd round of half payments after refund but it's not clear from buyer's account or the feedbacks. Also, Buyer talks about how it's a LOUSY $16 but from both accounts it seems she did not pay the invoice on time and drug her feet for days...
I just love reading people's different accounts of events.

>>8161965
I'm so fucking sick of how many people in these online comms just straight up aren't lolita. It drives me insane.

>>8176975
After quick google search and dance experience, it's not too far off. Square dance is pretty iconic to the USA although perhaps not the "official dance." It originated in the 17th century but her guess wasn't awful.

>>8162214
>OP asks for coord advice
>OP never once mentions wanting to dye the lace
>everyone chimes in with discussion on how to dye the lace

Wow, is this thread just full of retards or is the whole group like that? I get that it's not the best dress in the world, but it's her first dress. Just advise her on how to make a nice looking oldschool coord and point her in the right direction for her next dress. I swear.

>>8177028
>old school
>that dress
NO, anon. That dress will never look nice as it is. Oldschool isn't just any black and white coord, it involves actual quality pieces. If she hides the shitty lace it will be acceptable, but as is it looks like crap.

>>8177034
Yeah, I'm aware. But it's her first dress, and it's cheap. Overwhelming a newbie with advice on ripping up her first dress when she came looking for coord advice is just silly. You can comment on the lace detracting from the outfit overall, but even if a dress has shit lace you can still make a decent looking outfit to satisfy someone new to the fashion. Then just direct her to a better dress to work with for next time.

>>8162778
Where is this new sewing group?

>>8176933
Lol at the girl who is making her own version of Lacemarket
>guarantee no scams
>will pay back with their own money if someone is scammed
Welp hope they have a good time when someone else steals their dead mom's credit card and then files chargebacks

>>8177062
I will go on that site and fucking fake scam myself with a friend and be twice the richer.

>>8176942
???
$10 is about right when you ship it Priority Mail, which includes tracking and insurance.

>>8177027
Damn, that was unexpected.

>>8177679
or if you include shipping supplies

JFC. This shit grings my gears like no other.
Are people just helpless babies.

>>8177679
No it's not.

Bit late to the raleigh party but I was able to get a cap of a PM she sent someone before the girl deleted it, unfortunately its really difficult to read, it basically is just more whining and saying that she reported RC: uncensored multiple times

>>8177050
It's called Lolita Sewing Collective, it's on FB

Also, Ina making a fool of herself on someone's sales post...

>>8177689
What an asshole. If she reported it multiple times that means she probably selected a bunch of random nonsensical reasons to report. The group is still there so im guessing the Facebook mods laughed and deleted it.

>>8177689
I read that, she left it up for under a minute. Don't know what's up with that... When I get on my computer I'll write down word for word what the pm says as it is really hard to read now, but I already know what it says so it is easier for me to
pick out words.

>>8177689
I can't read a word that second cap says but since >>8177760 is gonna write it down, I can wait to laugh.

>>8177708
Didn't this get posted already?

>>8177762
Not in this thread, but I haven't checked any others

Is this lady on drugs? I wish I knew more people in the SCA so I could send them to her group

>>8177802
That horse is so high it would be fatal get off it.

>>8177689
Hey chick, one of the Lolitas sent me the url of the "uncensored" thread, and I have reported on 5 different counts including potential for individual violence. The 5 or 6 girls who participated including yourself have been reported to Facebook. Sorry.

I cant make any more out from the text.
She later goes on to talk about her illness (some mental thing iirc) and that she went to school in Germany and some other things.

>>8177824
I'm having Francis flashbacks.

>>8177838
Sorry I couldn't get any more from the thing, maybe if someone wants to PM the girl who originally posted it they could get it from her?

>>8176942
>>8176984
>>8177688
hey guys, headbow seller here - i realize that the shipping quote looks pretty high, but i ship everything via Priority boxes for security purposes. i also recently added signature confirmation which costs about $3 per item. i was going to ship the headbow in a small flat rate, about $6, and included the extra $1 in the event that i needed a different box so the item would not be squished/damaged in transit.

and i apologize if i wasn't clear - the buyer had sent 2 payments from her unlisted Paypal after i had already sent the original invoice to her listed LM email. the first payment was the $5 for shipping, the next was the $6 for the item. i refunded those and asked her to pay the invoice. after i told her that the shipping estimate was accurate, she sent another $5 from the unrecognized account. i then refunded that and again asked her to pay the invoice by end of day on the 10th. i also gave her most of yesterday to pay, which she did not, so i cancelled the invoice and left the negative, and around that time is when this blew up. i was sleeping at the time and found out this morning.

>>8177858
Why don't you use use first class? It comes with tracking. You can get third party insurance for like $1 if you are that paranoid about it (i use shipsurance)

>>8177876
Not that anon but the cost of the shipping or her rationale behind it is mostly irrelevant - the listing said $10, the buyer acknowledged herself that she knew the listing said $10 shipped, clicked "buy" anyways and then expected reality to be different than otherwise observed and stated. Buyer was wrong and also crazy.

It's just as bad as sellers coming after the fact saying "Oh I invoice you for the sold price + shipping and also $2 for paypal fees" - paypal fees are a cost of doing business through paypal, factor that into the cost of the item you are selling, don't try to lay it on the other person unexpectedly.

>>8177905
I'm not defending the buyer, I am just curious as to why she doesnt use a cheaper method for small items

>>8177876
first class = no free boxes, more likely to get lost.

>>8177858
You did nothing wrong
If that thread is still there, post this. Other people need to know she's fucking nuts.

>>8177858
You really don't need signature conformation for items under $250 for paypal. It doesn't help at all. For a six dollar headbow paying half the cost for signature confirmation is just silly

>>8177957
And I'm not trying to defend the buyer . I'm just saying if there was any reason not to buy from you it wouldn't be her insane ranting feedback it would be the shipping thing

>>8177957
For people that want to make sure buyers can't claim "they didn't get it" and explain away tracking info, signature confirmation is a must.

Did anyone see/cap that super embarassing/cringey "lolita roleplay" thread that got deleted on rufflechat the other day? I had the link open to post caps but my browser crashed

Right after it was deleted the girl posted this in RC uncensored lol

>>8177992
No it's not for paypal. Stop spreading misinformation. I literally JUST won a case with no signature.

>>8177992
This is blatantly false.

>>8176901
why cant she spell Massachusetts?

>>8178008

>>8178142
Omg that was officially the most cringeworthy lolita related thing I have ever read! Why would she ever think it would be a good idea to post in public??

>RC thread about noteworthy things said to you by FELLOW LOLITAS
>also there is already a thread for reactions from non-lolitas
>everyone vomits out normalfag-centric stories anyway

Lolitas: illiterate or just inattentive?

>>8178142
>Krad Laurente

it's fucking "eternal dark" backwards, how can you mess up the spelling??

>>8177876
first class mail does not come with tracking

>>8178159
It does if you are shipping domestically, I just sent something three days ago with it. Free tracking.

>>8178159
Holy shit if you don't know what you're talking about stop posting.

>>8162470
That was actually me. I didn't realize it was the mentoring group at first because of all the lolita groups on my facebook dash. The girl asked how to make a coordinate, not how to dye some lace. The dress sucks, sure, and it isn't gothic but why not give her some actual advice on how to coord instead of insisting she can dye cheap lace. (good luck with that.)

Eh, I'm actually glad they removed me from the group. Their advice was pretty shitty anyway.

>>8178152
Both. But mostly "Ohmygod! I get to share my story!"

>>8178156
IS THAT WHAT THE NAME IS

IS THAT WHERE IT COMES FROM

JFC I feel like an idiot

>>8178230
I made a secret about coming to that same realization. Blew my mind.

>>8178156
>>8178230
>>8178235
I seriously cannot believe I didn't realise this

>>8177802
What is she even saying?

Anyone seeing all these old lolitas and thinking , wow after all this time you STILL can't coord for shit ?

>>8178142
Omg fucking puke
What kind of retardation is this

>>8178391
whoa weird proportions much?
Most of the older ladies in my comm actually dress worse than the newer lolitas. It is odd. I guess they have been in it so long that they dont put as much effort in or something?

>>8178391
All I can see is how long her torso looks--this just must be the weirdest angle ever. To actually reply to you: maybe some people just like their mall-tier coords. More power to them.

>>8178423
>Most of the older ladies in my comm actually dress worse than the newer lolitas. It is odd.
This actually makes sense to me--they're probably just stuck in a fashion timewarp--still in the closet coord loliable mindset.

>>8178391
I think it's funny,honestly. The girl in your photo is a brand ita too

>>8178429
No they wear brand, some of them only wear lolita rather than other clothing. I guess it is just clothing to them and since they wear it everyday and come from a time before OTT was really a thing (most of them don't really care about online comms anymore so they don't know much about the new trends and stuff) they just dont dress well. Not ita, but not as well as youd expect for someone who has been into the fashion for 8+ years.

>>8178162
Really? Ive never gotten shipping from first class. Only if i ship priority. Same with international. I have to ship registered mail which is the price of firsr class plus an additional $15 to get tracking included

>>8178477
You must be doing something wrong then because I guarantee you that tracking is included with domestic first class, you can go to their website and check for yourself.

First Class International mail only has free tracking for select few countries (like Canada)

>>8178265
I'm not sure because she rambles so much (which is why I didn't care that I couldn't fit the whole thing in the screenshot) but she's completely wrong about the SCA, and when someone in the SCA tells her so, she insults the girl and claims she knows better.

>>8178555
Jesus Christ what a cunt

>MFW people think lolita fashion has nothing to do feminism
>MFW people think white radical western feminism is the only feminism out there

>>8178613
you need to be 18+ to use this site

>>8178613
Lolita has nothing to do with feminism. It's fucking clothing.

>>8178480
You can get delivery confirmation on first class parcels only, which means it's scanned when the postman puts into the mail box, but in some cases PayPal won't accept it as proof of delivery (depends on the cust service rep you get). A signature confirmation is always best

>>8178644
That's the point.
People who think they know what feminism is claim that women who wear dresses all the time aren't helping other women advance because it's taking things backs to the 50s.
I'm like..bitch if anything it's the opposite.
Anyone who chooses to wear something not mainstream accepted is so fucking raw feminist without even realizing. Like bye bitch we don't care if you don't like our clothes. Haha.

>>8178658
From the paypal website

What is proof of delivery?

Proof of delivery indicates that the item was delivered to the recipient, and generally comes in the form of an online tracking number. It shows the city, state, and zip to which the package was shipped, the date the package was delivered, and its delivery status. For payments of $250 USD or more, a signature confirmation of receipt is also required. The proof of delivery doesn't need to show the full street address since some shipping companies don't include this information. The city and state or zip code (or equivalent) is normally acceptable.

Signature confirmation is only needed for big-ticket items

>>8178658
>>8178480
>>8178477

Online shop owner anon here.

Both of you are right. No, seriously.
When I first started out I got stuff shipped USPS First Class... from my post office. That doesn't come with tracking and you had to pay extra for delivery confirmation or signatures. It was always a good idea to get signature confirmation because otherwise if they said they didn't get it, delivery confirmation didn't do much. They could claim it got stolen or put at the wrong house or something.

But when I got a printer and started doing my own shipping online, I went with First Class through Paypal and Ebay. These both come with added tracking for free and you can pay for optional signature confirmation, which you don't need except if you think it's really worth it.

So if you go to the post office, they're less likely to give you tracking unless you're using the more expensive methods. If you're using it online, you can get tracking included for everything.

>>8178676
I could be wrong about paying for delivery confirmation, it's been a few years since I last shipped that way. Either way, with First Class from the post office, they didn't give you tracking numbers. All you got was a sticker slapped on your package with a barcode they had to scan when they put it in the mailbox. They didn't even give me the option of tracking. They'd only ask if I wanted to pay X amount for signature confirmation and possibly delivery confirmation if I remember correctly that you had to pay for it.

>>8178686
I have always gotten tracking on shipments from the post office even without paying for it--it's not advertised, but that long string of numbers on your receipt under each package is its tracking number.

>>8178689
If it was there, they never mentioned it and when I looked on USPS just now it said you had to request it for certain mail and pay extra for it because some mails come with it included (like priority mail)

But in my experience, I've never had them tell me mine was tracked or ask me to buy tracking, only delivery confirmation.

>>8177802
Okay sca member here. She is mostly talking nonsense, and I really don't get what she is taking about with costume and garb.

Lolita isn't at all close to any sort of historically accurate costume (maybe Victorian children's clothing?). Yes it takes some inspiration from historical clothing but it is a modern fashion with modern cuts and sensibilities.

The sca does have chapters at some university's usually associated with the local baronry or shire. They are not in all or even most university's and they are not GIANT. Most members of the sca are older then 30.

Also most renaissance fairs are not at all historically accurate and few in my experience are run by sca groups.

From the "first world lolita problems" thread on RC. Why do I not believe you...?
But at the same time it made me wonder if there's anyone who truly does this.

>>8179190
What always irks me are the ones who nonchalantly talk about "oh yeaaaah, I bought this on a whim years ago and never wore it. Not sure I really like it, I'll keep it just to see."

Ffs, just sell your damn clothes.

>>8178771
I think she assumes that, since it's not uncommon for SCA chapters to hold events or meetings at university spaces, that they are a university based group. When it's just that some colleges let an educational group use their space for free. So do some churches (my local chapter meets in a Unitarian church) so by her logic, the SCA is a christian group.

This woman makes a lot of assumptions and has a lot of flawed logic (like her bizarre "changing a pattern isn't an alteration, it's an _insert_" thing) and thinks if she just screams them loudly over everyone else, or deletes anyone that disagrees with her, that makes her correct.

I'm visiting a friend Easter weekend, and she bought me a badge for the local con. I asked her if there were any quality lolita panels or events, and she sent me this as a sample of what I'll see. Is MTAC really that bad, or am I being trolled? I thought it was the biggest in the state.

>>8179420
Raleigh says she deleted her pattern review sewing extravaganza group because of us "ungrateful teenagers" who wouldn't show her our amazing dresses we made with her generous patterns. She says we're all gonna be sorry one day when she has her own brand of ~amazing~ lolita patterns out.

>>8180794
It's gone? But my lulz :(

>tfw Haenuli posts in Rufflechat

omg how long has she been there

This is the funniest pic on RC right now.

Hiking up your dress and petticoats to pee in the toilet. Oh I need to take a selfie too.

>>8180886
>tfw Haenuli sees your pee pose

>>8178676
>>8178686
>>8178689
>>8178701
USPS worker here, let me give some advice~
First Class Mail actually always does come with tracking, but the company doesn't want people to know that because formal tracking in addition to FCM is an extra $1.05. However, that added scan barcode that gets put on actually is a tracking number, but since someone doesn't pay for it, the company doesn't want people to know about it. We need that code because it has the route info programmed into it, so we scan it constantly and it tells us where it's going. All tracking numbers do that, so if you look at your receipt where it says PID, then that's actually you're tracking number. The only damn thing you pay for with tracking is for us to tell you it's there. However, be careful, since it's not "official" tracking or whatever, Paypal may not accept it as info if something goes missing.

Delivery Confirmation is always extra; it just makes the person have to sign for the package. Otherwise, unless it's insured, no matter how expensive something may be, if you don't pay that extra dollar then the company default is to just leave the item without a signature.

And you will always have the option of proper tracking, >>8178686, the only reason they didn't "give" you the option is because we get hardcore secret shopped, so there's a process we have to go through for each parcel, so really a big list of services pops up and we have to select two at random to offer, or we can get in trouble, but tracking is always there, even if its not the one they make us spew out.

All that said, still go with Priority. It's not that much more expensive at all unless your item is heavy and you have a lot more pull if something goes wrong, both with the post and with paypal. When shipping international, send first class then request to add REGISTERED AND INSURED; this is the only way under $65-xhundreds of dollars to send intl. and have it fully tracked and insured. Usually runs $30-45.

>>8178670
>>8180938

Forgot to mention that this is also correct; proof of delivery is what you want if you want to not get fucked by paypal, signature confirmation only makes it so no one steals the item off of the porch.

>>8177708
Ina is a dumb bitch. I can't stand here, nor can anyone else in our comm.

>>8180821
Wait what where? I missed that.

>>8180949
the thread about age

>>8177689
ok but why does allison always have to be EDGEMASTER 9000 in all of her posts

>>8181037
I think it is a combination of sarcasm and trying to impress people since the group is full of seagulls. Doesn't ever work to impress, I see plenty of edgelords on RC and they just make me cringe. Keep that shit to /cgl/. This is mild compared to some other people I have seen in various lolita groups.

>>8181059
>Keep that shit to /cgl/.

along with greentexting. it's not hard to find a more appropriate format for making points or telling a story with brevity.

>>8180944
what comm is she from? i feel sorry for them

Where are the damn secrets

>>8181104
They're up!

>>8181094
Chicago

>>8180944
>>8181223
You shouldn't go off on a person that you're in the same Comm with. It's extremely catty and you shouldn't start stirring up drama about a person's behavior online.

Chicago has become relatively quiet in the drama department which is good. Though I feel the Old School meetup might be a foreshadow.

>>8181412
It's the internet; get over yourself.

Just because she's in the same comm doesn't mean that I have to kiss her ass. She's awful and has been kicked out once and is on her way again.

>>8180944
Oh Chicago, you never really change, do you.

>>8181467
Is Ina the one that was kicked out for threatening to beat someone up or something? I just thought she was new.

>>8181467
Let her implode, don't instigate it. Who let her back in? Once you're kicked out, you're usually out forever.

>>8181223
>>8181604
Stop it. Chicago has been good as of late. Nothing has occurred ever since Cancerchan got banned. Ellejay is back, but it seems she is acting normal.

Yeah, I don't get it. Ina is a total jackoff but it doesn't really bother anyone besides her online temper tantrums, yet I have no idea who'd let her back after how shitty she was to everyone. Chicago has been totally fine, and I really don't get why people are going on about the oldschool meet being some sort of dark omen or that it was bad. Literally nothing happened, everyone had a good time, and if anything it was just a sign that things are really chill.

But that hissy fit she threw over the scepter really rubbed me the wrong way. I was seriously mad that she'd act like that and embarrass us.

>>8177062
So... are they charging a listing fee? Because if not, then they are basically going to go broke pretty fast at that rate.

>>8178152
THANK YOU. OMFG, I SWEAR RC HAS 0 READING COMPREHENSION.

>>8179221
>>8179190
I don't intentionally only wear things once but my closet is big enough that it's certainly happened.

And yeah, I have a lot of stuff I've never worn, and that is the stuff that eventually gets sold.

>>8181852
Anon, don't you know that lolita is full of honest, sweet, trustworthy lovelies that wouldn't scam anyone? \(^w^)/

She sounds like a delusional newbie.

What's other melbourne comm members thinking about the secret on George?

>>8182175

lol, I notice he's not a mod anymore. Serves him right.

>>8182191
ooh, seriously?

Speaking of the Melbourne comm I want to go to the 420 picnic next month and I think it would be cool if we could have a meet but I feel weird making the event or anything, I don't even know how many smoke or if people will be prejudice over it. I think I saw some lolitas there a year or two ago though. How should I go about this?

>>8182252
Weed is legal in Melbourne?

>>8182175
Btw, how his he, as a person ? Because he's damn sexy.

>>8182259
no but every year we have a big protest in the cbd and the police just kind of let it slide.

>A lolita from San Francisco is coming to Paris for a week and she'd like to meet the comm! Anyone up for a meet?

Holy shit yes

> PS: Said lolita is Chanel

That's a no then, kek

>>8163739
This is really cute but I feel that it would make a better phone charm or key chain than a necklace.

>>8182602
LOL

At least Yanise came from New York for LVER a few weeks ago. She's a 100x better than Chanel. Did any other Americans showed up?

>>8177708
I kinda liked her, but after this....yeah, no. Just nope. Not going anywhere near that. I feel so sorry for the comm she's in.
This is as bad as when the admin of my comm bawwed about a comment on a rc thread that had nothing to do with her.

>>8182614
Shanee and Octavekitten. There were more but those are the only names I remember.

>>8182618
I stopped liking her after her ultra racist rants. The way she acts online is exactly how she acts in person, but oh well, she's easy to ignore and is honestly benign if you just avoid her.

Everyone in that RC post about "weirdest places you've worn lolita" is seriously embarrassing. All these people talking about their Fetlife shit? Plz go.

I don't understand the prevalence of "mean people/comments" topics that are posted in Rufflechat et. al. I was recently at a meetup where I had to either compliment a girl's milanoo trainwreck or be an utter bitch and say it looked bad. If someone is so bad socially that they will tear apart a casual acquaintance for no good reason, they are probably just a bitch about everything, not specifically a bitch about/to Lolitas.

> Wow really, only $70 for that?
> Yes, I am sure I am impressed it is not a blatant replica.
> I agree - you knew ordering from Milanoo was risky and it could probably have been significantly worse. Lucky you!

>>8183444
why the hell do you keep posting this?

>>8183449
I have never posted this before? This only just happened yesterday?

>>8182175
'George'
You are clearly new.
Regardless, the drama whore in me is upset that there wasn't more juciy details come to light.
Damn right I'm thirsty, there hasn't been this much drama in the comm since Sinny left.

>>8183509
Deets on Sinny?

>>8171410
Oh god, me too.

>>8177708
I always see "Ina Angelic" posting on EVERY one's posts, with a shit attitude, every time. Why? Is she autistic?

>>8177802
What a condescending bitch.

>>8183418
Wut caps of best replies please

DIDNEYLAN!

>>8184006
for a second, I thought this was some new pronoun combination and re-read it like three times trying to figure out what it was referring to

it took me that long to figure out it was a gddamn typo

>>8183509

From what I heard, this wasn't even the first time he did this - just the first time he got caught with evidence. Apparently he would just shit on threads late at night and then delete them before the other mods saw.

>>8180944
agreed. she's snarky, belligerently and immaturely beyond rude, and just thinks that anyone who uses their brain-to-mouth filter is a big baby. she has no sense to be polite to anyone for any reason. it's completely bizarre.

kind of tempted to tag her in a comment on the sales post and ask her "hey Ina, the top bid is $146, were still interested in local pickup?"

she'll get herself kicked out again. just watch.

>>8178664
>Anyone who chooses to wear something not mainstream accepted is so fucking raw feminist without even realizing
ilu anon

>>8178391
There's a woman in my group who has been into lolita longer than almost anyone else here, like 10+ years, and even owned a brand shop but I have never seen an outfit of hers that wasn't complete shit. I actually like plain coords but she doesn't look plain, she looks like she got dressed in the dark. I'd think she is colorblind but her patterns are always clashing too and most of her clothes don't fit right even though she's thin. I'd actually love to get dressed up together once just to find out what's going through her mind when she assembles the hot messes she calls coords.

>>8183748
I hope not, we don't need even more insufferable cunts to make us look bad. JFC I wish there was a separate term for people who have autism but aren't rude embarrassing fucktards. I don't want to be associated with these people.

>>8177689

Raleigh reported RC uncensored? Just when I thought this fucking loser couldn't sink any deeper, jeez.

>>8177858

You did nothing wrong. I too like signed for, even when the items aren't worth that much.
It's all about proof of delivery in case someone tries to scam you and pp tells you to use that if you want seller protection. My question is though, did you put this in your terms of sale?
Always put it in your tos, when they buy it they agree to those terms. Like any auction it them becomes a contract.
I find it really iffy she sent the money seperately from a different pp account.

>>8182252
Hey anon~ I'm a melbourne lolita that isn't in a comm yet but that sounds like a really cool idea! It would be a really fun enviroment, I've been to lots of the rallies and was wearing an easter-themed lolita coord last year, and the year before I saw a girl in brand and said hi and i think it would be so lovely to see a big group of fancy ladies at the picnic! I'm sure all the stoners would love it too haha

does anyone else find something about this girl really grating? Like she's so up her own ass. She made a post in the tall lolita group that rubbed me the wrong way, too

>>8185098
>my coords don't matter because my height makes me superior! Look at everyone admiring me!

She sounds delusional.

>>8185114
She sounds basic as fuck, and like her only defining characteristic is her height/expensive clothing. Like, was it really necessary to namedrop that she also wears Chanel?

>>8185098
>short basic people
she sounds like a basic ass bitch.

>>8185098
This was her post in the tall lolita group that bothered me, god she's so pompous

>>8185098
>>8185132

So, I can imagine her saying all this shit and fake laughing really loudly, but I know that she probably sits in her room and cries by herself since she's the tall one in a short girl fashion. Her projecting is hilarious and pathetic.

>>8185098
>Chanel

Does she mean Chanel from San Francisco? She and her are the two biggest lolcows on RC right now.

>>8185132
>>8185098

>Sieg Height!

>>8185098
>>8185132
lol this is that bitch with the ronald mcdonald coord

>>8185139
nah she's talking about the high fashion brand, chanel, desperately trying to show everyone how important she is

>>8184102
Haha do it anon! Then post results!

>>8185129
I'll admit I'm pretty pedantic about grammar and syntax but I wouldn't ever say I LOVE it. That's just weird.

>>8185138
my toppest kek anon!

>>8185098
yep, and her post asking about why people don't wear lolita more comes from the same envy-based elitism that fueled her infamous "why isn't lolita popular (taken seriously)?" post.

People don't know how to Google

>>8185132
She's making me really fucking mad and I'm looking for an opening to have a go at her.

>>8185286
And omg people arguing in that one. Yes, the question was initially about people who ONLY wear lolita for events/meets/cons, but you can't throw a bitch fit that people talk about related topics.

>>8185454
I don't see how only wearing it for events/meets/cons is a bad thing. I'm just starting out and I'm only going to wear it to cons because there's no local comm here and I live in a little country town and it's just impractical to put on lolita to go grocery shopping or eat. As long as you dress well when it counts, why would someone look down on another for not wearing it as much as they do?

>>8185471
I'm the same. Sometimes you just don't feel like dealing with the questions and stares

>>8185129
FFS this girl is in my comm and she's fucking nuts and pretty ita to boot (usually wears loafers with her coords). I recommend ignoring everything she says.

>>8178644
Well lolita fashion from the start had a feminist point of view because girls wearing it they rebel aganist the japanese woman role model and they refuse to appeal pleasurable for men,infact they dress for themselves. So maybe lolita is one of the few styles that really appeal to this movement in my opinion,i think it's dumb when some women that are "feminist" say it's feminine and submissive to wear such girly clothing, i have heard this a lot outside the tumblr "kawaii feminism".

>>8185549
That's the story I heard too

alesha must be stopped

>>8185098
>>8185124
Considering that her lolita wardrobe appears to be all Bodyline and Anna House, gonna call bullshit on the Chanel

This woman needs to either post a decent coord somewhere or GTFO. She always gives the worst advice. She's like a 35+ y/o fat mom type too. With the advice she gives ("use a shopping service for bodyline it's easier than figuring out their page!" And other stuff too dumb to mention)
I honestly don't believe she's actually a lolita and I'm sick of other girls having to go behind her and correct her bullshit.

>>8185132
So does her skirt appear to be too short?

>>8185735
Yes. I even like knees showing in lolita, but how she does it looks bad. Some dresses look good shorter, and she isn't really leggy enough even if she is tall. On her they just look like she accidentally shrunk the skirt.

"Amazon and Ebay" really? fine, I can give her ebay because plenty of people actually do put their dresses for sale on there but this girl doesn't seem to have a clue about lolita at all.

I'm so fucking done with Rufflechat: Uncensored. I thought it was going to be a fun place to give less ass-patting answers about lolita discussions. It's just a retarded social justice warrior circlejerk. If you dare fucking say anything slightly contrary to their opinions, you're a racist! You're tone policing!

>>8185129
All those "I only hate it when I presume they are a native English speaker".
I speak fluent English but make errors sometimes - I was raised in a household where my parents would speak to me 50% of the time in their native language. The English vs. Slavic syntax ingrained in me ruins me in daily conversation.
Those retards would never catch that about me otherwise - it's something I need to explain. Bitches need to stop "presuming" and start understanding. This fashion attracts a multi-national, diverse following of people, you never know how those people grew up to be oh so disgustingly illiterate.

>>8185815
It's ok, anon. You still have us.

>>8185831
Oh yeah - and please do politely correct.
I've noticed my mistakes a lot of the time only when a bitch gives me some disgusted look.

How about you open your mouth and earnestly point out the mistake, and describe how or methods of doing it correctly? I want to learn! I'm sure we all do! Change starts with you.

>>8185730
Oh. Her. I got yelled at for telling her that using a shopping service for bodyline was retarded. I don't think she's really a lolita either, but for starters she needs to be told off by the admin. Who of course will never do that even when it really needs to be done.

>>8185839
>yelled at
>online
you didnt say "retarded" tho did you

>>8185815
Its's a bit better than regular RC at least. Wanna cunt it up with me? I'll be completely honest if you do.

>>8185843
No of course not lol
I said that it was incorrect to recommend a newbie use an SS for bodyline since its a completely unnecessary and confusing step.

>>8185833
Thank you, lovely anon. I'm so happy to have you guys to sink into the bittersweet sea of gossip and not asspats.

>>8185846
I want to really badly but I've already tried to have an unpopular opinion on there and that ended up being like a week long debate after the lot of them ganged up on me and the 2-3 others who spoke up.

>>8185847
fair enough lol.
the description of her sounds familiar to some of the people on the 80s MLP forum my friend visits, they're a bunch of later 30s circle keepers there and if you are not a moderator or some sort of senior/respected member your differing opinion = savage attack, never mind you if a long term member would have said the same thing.
i think that's how all forums with women 30+ go tho. be glad whoever this retard is probably doesn't get out of the house without muh hubby to go to a meet.

>>8185873
>circle keepers
*jerkers

>>8185849
It is a little sad to feel like it's the only place to discuss about the fashion (and other related interests) these days. It makes me really miss how EGL used to be. This is fine, but I miss being able to easily archive conversations and the organization of it all. The lack of stigma was nice, too.

>>8185873
And what I ment by got yelled at was the admin told me off and said that I shouldn't directly tell someone they are wrong because everyone is entitled to an opinion. I tried to explain that "opinions" don't make sense for issues/questions where there is one right and one wrong answer. She didn't see that logic.

>>8185636
why?

>>8185636
Do you mean this?

>>8186856
I swear she looks bigger than 98cm.

>>8186884
There is no way an IW L fits her. I have a 92cm bust and they just barely button without gapping on me. Unless the two I have are just mislabeled or cut too small.

>>8186884
>>8186894
Thank god, I got worried there for a second. I got a 98 bust and I'm pretty sure I'm at least half her size.

Fuck me.
I wish I actually was more active and set up on LJ.

Facebook sales has me going.
>Looking for trade
>Get offered Hot Topic dress
>It's "reallllly' rare
>oh boy
>Finally get a trade offer of dress I want
>Yessss
>Confirm I would love to trade
>Talk goes into direction of confirming trade
>Super stocked don't have to bother with a sale
>Get sent a confusing message
>Offer-er backs out

Kind of really butt mad about that. Not very good at being confrontational in messages either.
The part that really bothers me were the
>sorry >w<
>orz
>XD

>>8186856

I agree with her though. Used to be fat myself and had some plus size items but they didn't think 98cm bust was large enough so my sales post was removed. Many short people are actually fucking obese at that chest size, but nooooo some whales and hamplanets decided that is "small".

>>8185098
Isn't she the one who said 'no concrit unless you're cute enough to give it' and then had a picture of her in some meh jsk with no petti?

>>8186927
That same shit happened to me, omg.
>List a not super rare, but pretty expensive IW OP for trade
>get offered a shitty "I don't know the brand" offbrand ebay dress
>get offered even shittier HT dress
>Fight myself to hold back, "the fuck are you even thinking?"

I was like, embarrassed to have made a trade post because of the absolute shit I was getting.

>>8185730
>use a shopping service for bodyline it's easier than figuring out their page!
But you have to figure out their page in order to tell the SS what you want them to order.

>>8162448
The bag looks like foamboard...

>>8187377
It's def foamboard.

>>8185636
she's such a cunt

>>8186856
except the plus sized sales groups start at 98cm bust... wtf is she smoking?

>>8180894
Except that's not a Haenuli dress...

>>8187728
She was in the thread...

>>8187524
You do realize that you're replying to yourself and we all know it, right?

>>8187699
She wants a prize for being not quite as fatty as everyone else

>>8187308
Its like do people even read.
I kept getting asked what I was looking for...
Like I posted what I was looking for and even twice.

It just really deters me from even trying to sell.

>>8186884

>>8186899
>>8186894

Usually I'm all for fat shaming, but I think her face is just fat and ugly. I don't think she's actually that fat, see the photo.

>>8187961
Girl needs to calm down with the blush.

>>8185815
Holy shit that racism thread going on right now is so fucking retarded. Poor Jo.

>>8188073
Whoever commented this on BTB was right. I wish they had the balls to say it (or me to post it) on RC

>>8188087
And this

>>8188087
That is me!!!! Since there are people in RC uncensored who support the doxing of any "racist" person, I can't speak my mind for fear of saying something out of line. If you do post it, at best I will "like" it but I refuse to back it up and post actual information to those people, all they will do is shit on it and hate me forever. It kind of sucks because they are the ones perpetuating racism most of all by forcing people into either silence or their own beliefs. You have to convince other people, you cannot just make them change or they will automatically resent you. SJWs are the sole reason this... thing... exists:
http://neonationalist.tumblr.com
There is a good reason why people either loathe sjws, have never heard of them or are sjws themselves. They harm a lot of good work done to remove racial divides from society - observe how easily Emma lumps people into either "PoC" or "white". Good vs bad. Because the Moors and Japanese (among others) never invaded/colonised ANYONE. And what of the Barbary slave trade? African people were enslaving white people FAR before Americans, a fact that is often overlooked. The issue is that people think power is mutually exclusive. Only one race can be in control, only one person can be right. This is an archaic notion, and until we realise that everyone can be equal and there is no reason to segregate, there will be no peace.

That said, my comment on BtB is irrelevant to what is happening now on the chat.

>>8188180
Be careful about "liking" anything on facebook that you don't feel comfortable standing behind--admins in other groups have been known to ban "likers" as well as "sayers" under the idea that a like is still a public show of support for whatever.

I am unaffiliated with any lolita-based facebook groups and am not saying that this will happen to you or anyone else--just a word of caution.

>>8188180
What kind of ignorant racist idiot are you? Are you trolling or are you being sarcastic?

Japan invaded and controlled the capital of China. Millions of people died less than a hundred years ago in the Sino-Japanese war because of Japan's greedy Imperialism.

The "Moors" didn't colonize anyone because Moors are Muslims living in Europe, mostly Italy and the Iberian peninsula. There was totally a period of Arab Muslim expansion though, and at one point they took over a bunch of North Africa.

Barbary pirates and their slave trade haven't been a thing for 300 years, meanwhile people are still frequently saying darker-skinned people just don't look as good in lolita -- or regular clothing for that matter and non-white people are discriminated against in a lot of the world.

Why don't you "speak your mind" about this on another *chan

>>8188275

>meanwhile people are still frequently saying darker-skinned people just don't look as good in lolita
>translation: some people say I don't look good in a niche as fuck expensive hobby

Could your problems get any more first world.

>>8188275

>Japan invaded and controlled the capital of China. Millions of people died less than a hundred years ago in the Sino-Japanese war because of Japan's greedy Imperialism.

I think she was saying it didn't happen sarcastically.

She's trying to say the whole black and white picture of whites vs. PoC is extremely misleading of the complex relationships that different races and ethnicities have with each other.

>>8188283
Yes this.
>>8188275
YOU are the one who has no idea what you are talking about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3aTxVAWd-I
The moors invaded and destroyed. As did the Japanese. Barbary pirates still enslaved white people. The world is not white vs everyone else. All humans have the capacity to be shitty to anyone and everyone if they want the shit that other people have. Non white people are discriminated against in a lot of the world, white people in other parts. Just because you haven't experienced something doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Don't erase other peoples problems just because you think yours are somehow more important. Anything can happen to any person. Racial issues that are ingrained into society are still a problem for everyone, but just because you are oppressed does not mean you are the only one whose opinions matter.

>>8188282
No she was right about this one thing - it isn't right to say someone is less qualified to do something based on skin tone. I do not condone racism of any form.

>>8188298
Adding onto that the Ottomans (Muslims) who invaded the Balkans and literally enslaved whites (Slavs and Greeks, also gives context to the remove kebab meme). It has nothing to do with race so muh white man blaming is a really stupid thing

>>8188275
>Moors are Muslims living in Europe
'no'

>>8188282

>meanwhile people are still frequently saying darker-skinned people just don't look as good in lolita

I always took this to mean "lolita clothes are frequently made for people with lighter skintones because the original market was Japanese, that's why it's much harder to find darker-skinned people looking good in them" and not "black people are ugly".

I'm Chinese myself, I find I'm able to wear almost anything the major lolita brands put out. Compare this to whiteys who sometimes complain that pink makes their rosacea stand out or pastels washes them out or black makes them look sick. I imagine the problem must be 1000000x worse for darker-skinned people, a lot of colours frequently used in lolita don't suit them in the first place, and to make things worse, depending on their skin tone what suits one girl may not suit another girl of the same ethnicity.

>>8188306
Yes. Took me a few reads to understand what you were saying, but yes. Blaming or generalising a group of people simply breeds hate. I do not know why "progressive" people like sjws continue to enforce horrible societal wrongs in the name of progress. Racism is still apparent in society and I understand that they would want to remove this, but the sjw mindset has hurt a lot more than it has helped. Soon they will realise this.

There is accumulation. There is responsibility. And beyond these, there is unrest. There is great unrest.

>>8188326
Yeah, and it's really just a matter of the "best" lolitas always being Asian, as well. Almost all lolita models are Japanese so they're obviously the ideal since the images we see of them they are styled perfectly. The clothes are made to fit and look good on those models, and the first images we ever see of every dress is generally on an Asian (except sometimes with JetJ and other classic brands, which, surprise, look just as good on whiteys). We absolutely never see them on black people except on Tumblr and CoF and sometimes at meets (my comm has nothing but Asians and whites though).

>>8182614
Stephanie and Moss Maarchen came too

>>8185815
>>8185846
Is it really that hard to avoid arguing about racism with people?

>>8190026
For SJWs yes yes it is

>>8190072
Ok but why argue with them? What do you expect to accomplish?

>>8190081
I personally don't waste time arguing with retards. I was just chiming in on the SJW always looking for a fight mentality

>>8190026
The "argument" started when a girl outlined her experiences with racism and explained how she got people to stop being racist towards her. Only issue was, she was white. Being white invalidates racism - you could say there is an erasure. One of the SJWs started ranting about how inappropriate it is to say that white people faced racism because they clearly don't - apparently because we have a lot of privileges like bandaids and "nude" items that match our skin tone.
If there is nothing to fight for, SJWs wouldnt be needed. Therefore, they need to make big issues to fight for. I am not saying that racism isn't an issue, nor am I saying that we should just ignore it. But it is absolutely wrong to ignore someones experiences based on their skin tone or the fact that you don't think the problems exist. Isn't a large part of racism the process of not allowing people to do things based on race?
Granted in a predominantly white country there will not be as much extreme racism and societal oppressions towards whites, but racism is an individual opinion someone holds over another race. Prejudice towards someone based on skin tone is racism, be it black or white.

>>8190491
The problem isn't white girls sharing their experiences with racism as much as it is white girls sharing their experience with racism and then telling black girls how they should handle and interpret the racism they face. Growing up in a black neighborhood or community is not the same thing as growing up in a society that generally treats black people as lower class citizens. It comes across as condescending and insensitive.

Please tell me this girl is the sole resident of bananas town and no one would ever buy this at this price.

>>8190693
Yes I understand that. It would have been great if this had been explained, but instead of that it blew up and ended up with them shitting on white people for being capitalists or some shit like that.

>>8191344
They had me up until luck spells to find dream dresses.

>>8190693
>condescending and insensitive
Yep this would make perfect sense aside from the fact that the same people who are telling others to stop "whitesplaining" and saying "white people only face prejudice, not racism" are the same ones blaming all of the worlds problems on white people at every turn, and telling others to "stop being so offended" if they tell them that what they are saying is rude.
Take a look at this excerpt from that trainwreck of a group. If they want to use that logic, they need to take a look in the fucking mirror. Just because you are oppressed does not mean your behaviour is not shitty, insensitive and hypocritical. I am sure someone is going to say "oh but they face racism on a day to day basis so they cant just brush it off like that". Doesn't matter, if you are being an insensitive asshat you can't just brush it off like "oh don't choose to be so offended". Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.