/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

This. I have no words for this.

>>8120948
Since the sign behind ther says "students", is she on public school ground/college? Embarrassing.

a classic

>>8120978

>>8120983

>>8120989

This thing. She got really defensive when someone pointed out its issues. Don't want criticism? Don't post your luminescent patchwork disaster on a sewing group

>>8120989
>tfw the fat girl in pink is the best dressed in this group
kek

>>8120991
What is this and where was it posted?

>>8120997
Posted on Pintucks and Lace...apparently it's 'starburst' inspired

>>8120989
My fucking face when that fat fuck in blue constantly gives bad advice on facebook.

>>8121052
I really wish you were kidding but you're probably not. Where does she give advice??

>Unapologetically kawaii.

Please do apologize

>>8120978
Is she like 4'2

'Fun in the sun with lolita fashion' A FUCKING TANK TOP INSTEAD OF A BLOUSE?

>>8121218

To be fair, brands sometimes make them. Though I'm not really sure what the right way to wear them is.

>>8121218
>tank top with otks

>>8121231
>what is a bolero or cardigan

>>8121091
>shitty replica
>dress doesn't fit
>dress too short
>petti sticking out
>striped socks
>dat hair
>no make up
Every single part of her outfit rustles my jimmies.

>>8121238
Something only plebs wear over bare skin. That's like wearing a brand coat over nothing but bloomers and a blouse.

>>8121231
>implying brands only make stuff specifically for proper lolita

>>8121238

>cover up 90% of the gorgeous print that is 100% of the reason I bought the cutsew

>>8121231
It's not even brand though. It's regular. And for the record, just because brand makes it doesn't mean it's lolita. That's like saying AP hoodies are SO RORI.

I found this when I googled lolita fashion. UGH FANPOP NO.

>>8120978
Has she tied her headdress around her face deliberately or was she born without ears?

>>8121091
That looks like a child-size dress. Nothing about this is any good at all.

>>8120989
When fucking faeriedragonet looks good compared to you you need to re-evaluate your life.

>>8121328

Eh, I'm not defending the ita. I just replied to point out that some brands do make sleeveless cutsews that look like tank tops, so that is where the ita might have gotten the idea from. Also that I have never been able to make such a tank top work with rori.

Rest of the ita's outfit is pretty blah even without considering the tank top cutsew -- cheap accessories, un-kawaii sunglasses, plain everything, you guys have plenty to pick on aside from the cutsew, so have at it.

>>8121351
They're not supposed to work with lolita though. Every item that a brand makes isn't made for lolita you know. AP makes theses for fairy kei.

>>8121218
Okay the fact that she's not wearing tights or obvious bloomers and yet sitting on what appears to be hay is unsettling.

>>8121352

okay?

>>8121353
The hay might touch her panties or if she's really unlucky one piece of it might get in her panties, holy shit how scary, nature sucks.

>>8121361
Have you ever sat on hay? It's itchy as fuck.

>>8121361
>>8121362
Actually look like someone cut the grass and didn't rake.
>dead grass is just as itchy
>gets into clothing a lot easier than hay

>>8121218
I think this looks okay, I mean, what the hell do you do when its so hot outside? There is a huge difference between wearing no blouse under jsk and wearing a top like this without blouse.
But she could cover up her thighs buy wearing bloomers though.

>>8121372
>What the hell do you do when its so hot outside
>Thin blouses
>Chiffon blouses
>Chiffon coverlets
>Plenty of other lolitas deal with it

>>8120991

Uggghhh I saw this ans wanted to vom. What an ita.

>>8120978
>>8120983
>>8120989
>>8120990

What a weird fucking midget.

>>8121401
Someone clearly doesn't live in a place where it gets over 100F/38C and nearly 100% humidity. Even thin chiffon will be soaked with sweat and sticking to you in minutes.

>American south uggghhh

>>8121414
Well, how the fuck do you wear lolita then?

>>8121414
>Someone clearly doesn't live in a place where it gets over 100F/38C and nearly 100% humidity.
Don't you guys just dwell in AC 24/7? Don't go outside if possible.

>>8121218
Also, in the original photo's devianart page there is SO MUCH ASSPATTING

>>8121428
Usually I carry around a small spray bottle (an old travel size perfume spritz I guess), and fill it with cold to cool water. I don't wear too much makeup so it getting on my face isn't too much of a big deal. Also carry around a clothe to wipe off sweat. Oh, don't forget actual perfume! Don't want to stink up the place, y'know?

>lives in tropical south/central American climate
>Goes over the 100s commomly

>>8121414
I live in the South. Thin cotton voile blouses. Don't sit around outside. Lots of deodorant and powder. No wig, use a fan. It's do-able.

>>8121362
>>8121365
Have you? It's just dead grass. It's incredibly thin and not particularly itchy.

>>8121414
That's why I only go outside in the winter.

>>8121218
I don't see any problem with this. This is my perfect definition of casual Lolita.

We had lolitas dancing samba at this years Carnival.

>>8121468
It looks fine as a Carnival costume, but these outfits would be tacky for street-wear or as fashion.

>>8121468
Isn't that just supposed to be stereotypical European little girls?

Racist.

>>8121057
Big Sisters of Lolita. Her first name is Nancy. I wish she would just go away. Pic related is her "ganguro gyaru" attempt. Please stahp.

>>8121490
Dropped pic.

>>8121494 I ALMOST SCREAMED

>>8121466
Bra strap showing, shoulders bare, petti showing, cheap accessories, bad sunglasses, messy hair, thighs bare.
>perfect
I fear for your taste, Anon.

>>8121490
>>8121494
What the fucking fuck. I don't even have any words or proper reaction face

And she is considered experienced enough to be a Big Sister and give advice??

>>8121494
The only good thing I can say about this photo is that she looks a bit less fat here than in the blue she wore for group photo?

>>8121503
There is unfortunately no rule as to who can or can't be a big sister. There is another girl who LITERALLY ISNT A LOLITA. Like she said she had no full coords like 2 weeks ago and she is using the big sister tag. Kanonique...PLEASE make it so we have to apply to be a big sister. Also add an extra mod or two. Having to show/make a decent coord with a main piece picked by a mod would be a great way to prove you know your shit. Also you should have to provide just the mods with one good picture of yourself in a good coord. Even if you don't want to post yourself online. Although if you're too afraid of the results of self posting you probably shouldn't give advice either...

Looks like the aftermath of eating too many starburst candies and then bringing them back up.

>"lolitaswag"

>elf ears

>>8120991
And the she blocked then haha. What a fucking baby.

>>8121539
I think it's kind of funny, actually. Big Sisters of Lolita, Lolita Mentoring group and Lolita Tips do so much that keeps itas ita and noobs in the dark or misdirected. One could almost wonder if it might be on purpose. They couldn't do a much better job if it was. Add the mutual asspats that itas and new people cluelessly give each other and is it any wonder that so many dress so badly?

>>8121862
Cute outfit. Cute girl. But those fucking elf ears...

>>8121862
I think it's kinda cute. Better than cat ears.

>>8121259
I'm wondering if this even is a replica tho.
>Very small front panel
>side seams/zipper end at side of bust (common problem with brand jsks with very busty girls, IW has done this to me and I'm not nearly this bad)
>shortness/overall length
>crispness and saturation of print
>Drape of the fabric. Though it's a little harder to tell toward the bottom.
>length of lace

I'm thinking this was probably altered.

The headbow though... I think the waist bow was removed and stuck on a headband?

>>8121091
There is not a single thing not wrong with this girls' outfit.

>>8122117
Do you even lolita? There's quite a bit of ita going on, as detailed above. Besides the fatty part, I mean but really, that just adds to the mess.

>>8121494

>>8122135
You need to re-read anon's sentence

>>8121867
No one is doing her any favors encouraging her, this sucks for several reasons even if it wasn't trying to be lolita.

>>8122135
Re-read what I wrote and then try again.

>>8122140
Ah, you are right, I'm too sleepy to be reading this stuff. Sorry >>8122117

>>8120978
so glad she left lolita to go annoy the cosplay community

>>8120978
This looks like little Tokyo around the kinokunya bookstore. Is she the girl that was permabanned from all the SoCal comms?

>>8122200
Yes.

>>8122200
Ooh details? I don't know much of the SoCal drama

>>8122200
That's exactly where she is, Kinokuniya is just up the stairs behind her.

>>8121091
This looks like a weird, fat version of Melissa from the SF comm

It needs more poof!

>>8122206
Permabanned from multiple comms? How exactly did she achieve this? Link to the story, please? Or tell it? That must be quite a feat.

>>8122259
Must have a lot of secrets in that petti.

The girl in this photo looks so miserable
I can't blame her

>>8121862
Would be so much cuter if they weren't pointed down/barely noticeable.She looks like Dobby. I saw what she was going for tho. Good location/good coord.

>>8122297
I can't quite tell where one oddity ends and the next hideous thing begins. What IS this, exactly?

>>8122286
>>8122214
Found it

>>8122347
Here's another thing about the situation

>>8122268
Oh god this is fucking terrible. But I think the worst thing about it is that pose.

>>8120948
Man. That's a bit hateful. The coord is kinda terrible but I've seen plenty of more nasty looking lolitas. Particularly the older ones on egl.

>>8122467
Hateful? What is that you in the pic or something? Be honest now. It's not like the girl in that pic got ripped on for something she can't change.

>>8122488
Maybe they're talking about the file name.
The ita is still strong regardless.

>>8121218
I actually think this is hella cute. It isn't really lolita but it reminds me of vintage fashion/pin up look. I need to get me some skirts I can pair with cute tank tops...

>>8121639
Lena Dunham?

>>8121218
I-I. All of my beliefs to adhere to rules rather just. I-I like this. I feel like my life has been a lie.

>>8121428
>>8121441

I live in a particularly hot area in Australia. You actually get used to the heat, so eventually you can deal with it, with a bit of conditioning. My feeling is:

Am I going to be hot in normal clothes?
-yes
Am I going to be hot in lolita?
-yes

May as well look pretty if I'm going to be hot anyways.

>>8120990
Is that green lipstick???

why that purse with that skirt
why that anything with that skirt

>>8122347
Good for Fairytale too. That sounds like a business I would love to make my local.

>>8121639
God, each boob is bigger than her head.

>>8122347
>>8122354
Is this CrystalMoon whatever? I think I remember those pics >>8120978 >>8120983 being posted to BtB

>>8120948
Mine would be "doesn't look any worse than other pastel vomit lolita".

>>8122297
Milanoo goes to cons?

>>8122695
This is so tacky I like it somehow, not as lolita though

>>8121059
did she just draw another set of eyes under her own, what the fuck? i thought the whole missplaced lower lash trend was disgusting but this, this is a whole new level.

>>8121494

>>8121501
Who made this rule when you wear Lolita in hot weather you can't wear a tasteful top without sleeves?

>>8122683
You'll be hotter in Lolita clothes (what, you don't wear a petti or something?), ya chum.

>>8121237
This shit right here.

>>8121468
I find this picture hilarious

>>8122297
You know wearing a big princess looking dress like this must of been a big heartwarming moment for her, as shit as this is to us.

>>8121452

Reminds me of that paragraph in To Kill a Mockingbird where it describes the women taking three baths a day and still going to bed soaked and their talc powder deodorant caked on them.

Sage for OT.

>>8122919
Ha, I thought the same thing.

Someone posted this in our private comm to mock us...

>>8122901
>Who made this rule when you wear Lolita in hot weather you can't wear a tasteful top without sleeves?

One of the basic rules is to not show off shoulders, how ita are you?

>"Finally got my dream dress!"
>antlers with...necklaces?

>>8123100
This would be so much better if she either styled her hair or wore a wig. She needs makeup too. Oh and better shoes. Ugh those baby ribbon ones would really be cute with this.

>that wig

>>8123056
What's with our comm that even when people give constructive advice they get criticized for being "mean"? As if there was even anything positive to say about this?

>>8123117
I had the hardest time not saying anything at all in the comments on this one... She was super defensive about con-crit, too.

>>8123100
>>8123117
I downvoted these, lol.

Luckily, really shitty coords don't get many votes (though a lot of mediocre stuff does, oh well). The sub is too small to properly filter itself, though.

>>8121468
this is friggin awesome!

>>8123131
You could be our comm where they delete and then "ban" people over it.

>>8123201
>>8123205
That looks more nitpicky than ita to me.

>>8123056
Eep, I saw this too. What the hell man. She even said she wasn't a lolita, what was she doing in the comm? Ugh.

>>8123201
>>8123205
>>8123208
Nitpick this doesn't belong here!

>>8123214
Not the person who posted this, but I don't like them though. I think they belong. Ugly boots, ratchet hair, bad colors. Is one of them you, or are they your friends?

> pastel guns
really? REALLY?

>>8123249
Not ita, though... And I'm pretty sure that's for a specific video, and not serious in any way. Maybe take it to the FB thread if you want to discuss it?

>>8123249
V E N D E T T A B O Y S

>>8123258
oh ok

>>8123224
not that anon but yeah, they dont belong here. nitpicks for sure. dont even try to pull the "durr that must be u!!1!" thing. these are clearly nitpicks man.

>>8123249
DAT clown make up

>>8123299
Pretty sure this is just some sort of shitty Madoka AU cosplay.

>>8123267
Well ok, I just asked if they were one of them, or if they were friends. No harm in asking, no need to get so angry about it. I think they look bad. Not as bad as some, but they do look bad. Let people have opinions mate.

>>8123320
They might look meh but they're not bad enough to be itas. They got the basics down and the co-ords are solid.

>>8123214
nah that first one you quoted is ugly as hell

>>8123299
I think this is supposed to be a Madoka/Evangelion cosplay.

Gold.

>>8123354
lol those folds, took that shit straight out the dryer and hung it up with out ironing

>>8123249
come on, it's just for a funny video

>>8122259
ARE THOSE JEANS

>>8123404
Those shoes...

>>8120948

She needs some eye makeup to balance this out. Big lashes and a little eyeliner

>>8123205
Does anyone know where the sailor cardigan she is wearing is from?

>>8121401

I never wore blouses in Arizona during the summer. The temp was regularly 100+ and if people thought I was ita, OH FUCKING WELL.

>>8123223
I like parts of it a lot. Very h.NAOTO.

>>8123340
why did someone think that was something the world needed?

>>8123087
Give me a straight answer or continue looking like a complete retard, it's your ego not mine.
The "rule" is petticoats, being cute/elegant and not looking like trash while following the aesthetic, the end.
A strapped top does not offend this.

>>8123404
>dat beta posture

>>8123636
Is that Iska Ithil?

>>8123131
Some people just want to always be nice, even when it means they're lying. They're insecure because they think when they say the truth that other people will bash 'm...like those others did. Man, sure be nice to new people when they're shy and all but this picture just asked for it tbh. I actually even thought it was just stolen from the internet..it's that bad.

>>8123601
I guess the fact that we basically freak out whenever we see someone not wearing a blouse is just a bunch of bullshit then?

How fucking new are you?

>>8123636
I thought there was a bunch of black dotty shit on my screen when I enlarged the image and started wiping at that girl's face. Wtf.

>>8123688
Skirt + brand tanktop for casual lolita =/= blouseless jsk

>>8123591
People compare the two a lot so I guess that's why?

This girl isn't the worst, but something about this whole thing looks off.

And omg those glasses. They are like a chastity belt for the face.

>>8122829
nah, it's her eyebrows that she redraw, you got everything too low

>>8123643
Oh, that actually looks like a cute picture, let me click it.... OH DEAR WHY.

>>8123706
>Flat hair with large ass bow
>The petti or the shirt looks sorta off
>those shoes
>The dress itself looks kind of tight

>>8123706
>glasses. They are like a chastity belt for the face.
I think I remember something my sister said, in boot camp if you need glasses, they'd give you Steve Urkel style big ones and they were known as "birth control."
Which is ironic, because just a few years after that the hipster frames became popular.

I also think it's worth it to note that it looks like her petti is much too big for the skirt to accommodate and that may be why it looks off.

>>8122259
I remember this from a couple threads back, she put it on for a friend whom was sewing it I believe, or her friend dared her to put it on.
Either way, It's not a real coord nor meant to be an actual thing

>>8123636
This is why I make sure I have a retainer in my piercings in now
Even though it's a simple lip stud, I always have a clear one in and try my best to photoshop it out

>>8121862
I think this is absolutely adorable. I like the elf ears, they're a weird touch but she did them well.
>>8123220
Are those yarnballs?

>>8121266
what the fuck are you talking about? girls where JSKs with no blouse but with a cardigan or bolero over it all the time

like where have you been?

>>8121468
yeah seriously i fucking love this, i bet their performance was awesome

>>8123201
this doesn't hurt my eyes and i can't consider it properly "ita" because of that but it is pretty boring. i hate to be that guy but if you're not going to get a pair of glasses that looks better with lolita plz wear contacts. the necklace she's wearing doesn't add anything to the coord, her hair is too limp for the bow at the top of the head, it's just... not very stylish

>>8123208
man i almost like yellow coorded with booger magic

>>8123249
yeah nothing about this pic or video is serious though? and guns or not this is a fine coord, even if i hate that blush-right-below-the-eyes look

>>8123898
It was baby's first coord, so I cut her slack and wasn't the one who posted her here.

>>8123463
bump, that cardigan is super cute

>>8123646
what the fuck is this

>>8123913
hey it's not too bad for a first time, really. she's super cute and with some effort she could be a++

>>8123706
This is why you don't wear a cupcake petticoat with an A-line dress. It looks soooo frumpy!

>>8123201
nitpick, my opinion is shed look super cute with a light blonde wig. I thought I hated this dress but I like it on her

>>8123224
someone please make a new nitpick thread

>>8123706
again we need a nitpick thread I want more eye searing itas

Anyone got a picture of that disturbing ita who modded Cats Tea Party? I can't seem to find it.

>>8124306
Please don't derail another thread with more Tiferet bitching. We've all seen enough of her, she's horrendous, we know and until she does something new, topic exhausted.

>>8123208
What are you talking about? This is adorable.

>>8123404
she legit looks like she just shat her bloomers

>>8124056
TIL angels wear hooker boots

Leopard print shoes with leopard print socks

>>8124719
now THAT is tumblr core

>>8124047
Why does that skirt always look lopsided?

She also thinks ita is a substyle of lolita, just like sweet or classic.

>>8123201
At least her body shape matches the print on the dress

>>8123299
uhhh wtf that's not lolita... that's that whole Madoka Magica x NGE cosplay that blew up like 2 years ago

>>8124056
What dress is this? It's a cute dress...pity about the rest though.

>>8123591
it was invented when tumblr was super obsessed with both madoka and eva back in 2012 or 2013

>>8123706
nitpick.

>>8122707
>CrystalMoon
Her FB page is "Cel-Chibi Cosplay". I almost regret meeting and friending her on FB cause she keeps inviting me to her "Meet and Greet with Cel-Chibi Cosplay" events, but ngl the drama around her is so entertaining to follow.
>> lolzy

Also, deets on CrystalMoon? I know a cosplayer by the name of Crystal Moon, and I'm curious if this is the same person.

>>8122919
Haha, liquid powder FTW, it's amazing stuff in the heat. But honestly, you do get used to it, I've never understood the big deal. Construction workers, ranchers, farmers, everyone who works outdoors much in southern/hot climates covers up MORE to be insulated and protected from the sun and heat, they don't wear fewer clothes.

>>8124843
so edgy desu.

Ew wtf

Why

>>8122829
I think you're right. the "eyes" look hyper cartoonish. The eyebrow are also redrawn on high though

>>8124904
girl in the middle just needs make up and some tweaking on where she sets her accessories on her head. Girl in meta... girl why those boots, you had a good thing going. The one with the read hair looks like she's just wearing punk normal clothes, not really lolita.

>>8124771
Take a look at the way it buttons and how much space is between each row of lace. The sides are even, but the way it gets pulled over to button up, the one side is made to be a bit shorter... The spacing between the rows of lace is wonky too.

Is it handmade?

>>8125044
Unless she's wearing it sideways? the split down the middle leads me to think it's a side slit, with the front being slightly shorter than the back? maybe? If not, then yeah definitely had to be made wrong.

>>8124843
>nowhere near landwhale proportions
Don't be a dick.

>>8123652
looks like it. i think shes pretty cute. especially as a non lolita outfit. the colors look good and all the pieces are cohesive.
her friend on the left looks pretty bad regardless of it being lolita or not.

>>8124904
Those fucking boots damn

>>8123117
Leonardo Dicaprio?

>>8123636
facial piercings: not even once

>>8124838
...you're bs'ing me.

>>8123205
There's nothing wrong with this

>>8125191
nope i'm not bs-ing you (unfortunately). she legitimately thinks that.

>>8124904
Those boots what the hell
It's like she strapped a couple of dead husky carcasses onto her feet 0/0/0/0

>>8125217
Tell me someone liked it ironically.

>>8125217
omg where is this i have to see

>>8122695
Is she a choir church girl or a kindergarten graduate. What is she wearing over her!?

>>8123320
did you know you thinking they look bad dosnt equal ita? funny what you can learn from the internet! you have your opinions but if you go look at actual itas, they dont equal ita. i dont even like the coords, but i know they arent ita. a nitpick equals a coord that looks kinda bad but not exactly ita.
>no need to get so angry about it
oh no not this. lets not play the "OMG BRU U R MAD!!!" game when there was no anger in my post. its a bit pathetic.

>>8123643
worst part is her purse actually looks pretty cute from this angle, poor thing.

>>8124056
>dat purse

>>8124969
oh god this girl looks freakly like a girl i used to know.

>>8124838
She must have took deerstalker video seriously when they were showing the "types of Lolita"

>>8125235
It was on CoF, I believe.

>>8125217
Well ita is a type of lolita, the disgusting failed type. It's not like she said it's her favorite substyle. At least not in this completely out of context comment.

>>8124771
It's a asymmetrical cut on the front bustle. It looks better with a proper petti to bump it out correctly.

>>8123100
Never prioritize print-specific accessories over a decent wig.

I don't know if it's just me, but the order of importance goes:
-Good hygiene
-Competent makeup skills
Ok now start lolita
-Petticoat and good foundation garments
-OP or JSK
-Blouse, legwear, proper shoes.
-Wig
-Simple, versatile accessories
-Suitable bag
-Flashy accessories and things you can only wear with one print

This whole Fullset/Brand Teaparty OTT outfit trend is a dangerous thing to expose newbies to.

>>8123117

is it a boy ?

>>8123117
bang and heels would one up this by like 50%

>>8124878
Yeah but they also don't give a shit about completely drenching all those layers with sweat; while most lolitas actually care about their clothing.

>>8125520
its just sweat... you can wash them dude

>>8125531
W-w-w-waaaaasssh??? My b-b-b-burandooo?????? But that would wash away my scent!

>>8125454
It might be different from ita to ita but most I've known order of importance goes:
>low budget
>dress (cheap as possible, often replica of expensive print because "I want my dress NOW!!")
>wig (often shitty cosplay wig or bad quality/twin tails)
>star clip (why is this still athing? Idk)
>other accessoires (bonus points for Hello Kitty)
>blouse/cardigan (often not Lolita but "totes loliable guys!!")
>socks
>shoes
>bag
>make up
>hygiene (depends on ita, some manage to have higher hygiene priorities)

>>8123404
jesus christ her face looks like mine (when I make that stupid expression anyway) I was startled, then In realized I don't even own that dress lol
also not my body
sage for ot

>>8125296
of course

>>8125461
I believe biologically yes. I think MtF, but not sure.

>>8124878
Also depends on the area you're at and humidity. I live on a farm in a high humidity area and all the women wear tanktops and, whenever we can, shorts. Still have to wear boots around the animals and often jeans, but as soon as possible for barnwork we change into shorts. The men tend to just go shirtless. Wear a lot of sunscreen, or get burned as fuck is the standard.

>>8125701
Can we make a petition to ban guro-lolita, wa/qi-lolita and punk-lolita?

>>8125454
Well too bad some of don't even wear wigs.

>>8125711
too bad you probably look like shit then lol

>>8125734
Well I appreciate not looking like I'm wearing a costume. :^)

>>8125738
I'm sure you also appreciate looking like a lazy shit :^>

>>8125742
I'm sorry your hair must be very thin and flat if you can't use it for lolita. :3

>>8125734
Wow, I get wearing a wig for a special event, but demanding someone wear a wig on a daily basis? Wtf. You're why people think this fashion is a costume.

>>8125754
Honestly, I wear lolita when I'm going out with friends like to the cinema, to a bar, to eat some sushi or to special occasions when I visit family. If I started to wear a voluminous wig with my poofy dresses people would think I've gone way over board and call me crazy for wearing a costume. I already try to wear casual lolita to not stand out too much, but the wig would blow it.

>>8122259
She looks like Gruntilda.

>>8123688

Hate to break it to you, but the one looking new is you.

Five years ago the topic gets rehashed on egl (yes, rehashed. As a newbie five years ago even I got the impression it has been argued before). General opinion is divided on whether you need a blouse.

Not unanimous. Divided.

Not enough lolitas can agree that your shoulders should always be covered, hence that this issue has always been contentious. Even if you pose this question to a lolita senpai who's been in the fashion longer than 5 years, I can guarantee the answer you get is going to be "it's better to wear a blouse but it's not a hard and fast rule".

Only cgl's ita/nitpick threads are flooded with girls freaking out over bare shoulders, probably because cgl has a lot of newbies (just take a look at the number of newbie questions in lolita general or coord help threads). And even then, you're still getting people arguing back with you right now.

I get that you're here for blood any way you can get it, but you should stop making up things when you don't really know the history.

I feel bad for the one in the middle. She looks lovely but the other 2 make me sad

>>8126037
You can see the internal screaming from her facial expression. Though she's probably a nice girl and the two ita slook really happy to have their picture taken with her (I know I'd be happy as I really like and admire Aerynsys).

>>8125742
>real hair
>lazier than wigs
lolwhat
When I'm being lazy I slap a wig on. Real hair takes much longer to style.

>>8123087
> new fag detected

There are plenty of good coords where the girls aren't wearing blouses. They are not mandatory in all cases. You just have to be able to know how to coord accordingly.

>>8125564
>star clip (why is this still athing? Idk)
I still wear and love them, what's wrong about star clips?

>>8125926
If the opinion is divided(which it is very ruthlessly) then the anon you're responding to seems to be on the pro-blouse side so that explains why she thinks that. My entire comm is pro-blouse so we all think that pretty unanimously as a fact.

>>8126182
Nothing, but itas often think a star clip is necessary for every single outift and often rather throw money and attention at a star clip than any other more matching accessoire or smaller part of the coord (like bags or appropriate headwear.

>>8126182
Pretty much >>8126216, star clips look fine when they fucking match, but most of the time they don't match and they're often worn with prints that don't have any damn stars.

>>8126216
>>8126224
Phew.

>>8124838
What is this from?

>>8125696
if they're MtF, then doesn't that mean they're biologically female now? they'd be male at birth, but if they're on hormone replacement then they'd be female.

>>8125707
Please ban guro and wa. Qi and punk actually look fantastic when done well. Guro, on other the other hand, never look good, and I've only ever seen one good wa coord.

>>8126224
BITCH WHAT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T WEAR MY HOT PINK 6%DOKIDOKI STARS WITH MY FAVORITE MOITIE DRESS? WHO DIED AND MADE YOU THE QUEEN OF LOLOTA?

really tho. please make sure your dress has stars if ur gonna wear a star clip. wear them with like Cosmic or some starry shit.

>>8126252
CoF idk what you expected

>>8125680
posing like this looks dumb as fuck

and that fucking wig

>>8125711
Well too bad some of us have unfortunate hair genetics and prefer to wear them to look polished?

Although good for you, congrats on having naturally nice hair.

>>8123208
Honestly I think this is one of the better coords I've seen with this dress.

>>8126199

My issue is that she stated as a universal rule.

So at least I needed to pipe up and say that it has never been a universal rule, and has always been in contention. The other anon was right, covering up your shoulders was not specifically a lolita rule, because any time anyone tried to state it as one, someone inevitably comes out of the woodwork to object. Today, it is that anon and myself who came to clarify that this has never been and probably never will be a hard and fast rule.

>>8126037
What the hell is that crocheted thing the one on the left is wearing?

>>8126927
I've never said anything about wigs, but I hate it how many lolitas include it in style-guides like it's mandatory like a petti.
I have healthy thick blonde hair I take care about, I simply don't need a wig. I might buy one if I wore something very OTT but I mostly wear berets anyway.

>>8126869
No biologically they'd always be whatever they're born with. Hormones don't change your chromosomes.

Physically they'd be on their way if not completely transitioned.

>>8121468
But...why?

Like, they look awesome. But what does a japanese street fashion that strives for elegance and modesty have to do with carnival?

>>8122695
I thought she had a little cocktail umbrella in her hair.

>>8128934
Why not? Carnival is about breaking the habit.

>>8123225
Is this the same girl with photoshopped hair?

>>8123308
W-what's with that expression.

She looks like she's the leader of a 50's girl gang.

>>8128934
That's entirely the point. It is an intentional juxtaposition. Fucking with norms.

>>8122695
this girl is the most tumblr looking thing i've ever seen

>>8128987

>>8123117
why? this is such a pretty skirt? noooo!!!!

>>8124904
this is nitpick, fuck off

>>8124904
So I'm the one who talks so much shit about the girl on the left but I agree this is nitpick.

>>8128987
She never gets better...it just gets worse.

>>8129324

Are you fucking blind or just trolling? Pls be troll.

>>8129353
Where is she living? I'm jealous of the cold.
But, yeah, wtf folk-chan? Your hair looked less greasy on the last two outfits, why stop washing it now?

"serious lolita"

Charlotte Charms.
Kek when she used to act like a superior lolita and give advice on /cgl/ while going to cons looking like this.
Also her ego was some shit "i want to see myself pleasured and have sex with myself/ i am glad to be born so beautiful/ i could play with my face all day"

>>8129400
She lives in Ireland now.

>>8129662
Woahhhhh how the tables have turned. Is that really her? shit..

>>8129548
Seriously disgustin' brah
*guitar solo plays as I skateboard out*

>>8123636
i cannot believe how bad this is