/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>8084220
maki and asuka's tears, mixed into a two-part epoxy

>>8084236
Alright, I'll get right on that, thanks anon!

IM DRUNK AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT YALL ARE DUMB LOLITA WHORES WOOOOOOOO

Where do you all prefer to shop for wigs? Lockshop, Cyperous, somewhere else?

>>8084319
okay, if this is some kind of b8 you need to try harder but okay.

>>8084319
you are drinking alone, on 4chan, and came here to insult people who wear a certain clothing fashion under the assumption that all people in said fashion act the same.

sit there for a bit.
things like this is why you do not have a GF.

>>8084329
>>8084331
LOL LIGHTEN UP BITCHES.
IM BROWSIN LACEMARKET SALES NOW AND MAKING POOR CHOICES WOOOO

>>8084356
WOOOOO WHAT HAVE YOU PICKED OUT

>>8084360
IDK YET.
NOT SEEING ANY GOOD DEALS THAT COULDNT BE FOUND ON MBOK FOR CHEAPER YA GREEDY PROSTITUTES WOOO

Um.

>>8084368
YOU ARE ONE OF US.
YOU ARE ALSO A GREEDY PROSTITUTE WOOOOOOOOOOO
>>8084426
jfc you're shitting me.
I will laugh at anyone who is dumb enough to buy this.

>>8084426
I was coming on here to post that.
WAYYYY over priced, and no feedback. No thanks.

>>8084356
I think we found a match for you
>>8084426

The other day when I was with my friend in lolita, we were at this busy shopping center. Of course we were stopped for pictures and a line formed, but one of the people taking pictures stopped us. She was this mature asian lady that was very serious and she was really interested in what we're wearing and told us to call her after giving us her card. She's a professional photographer apparently? I'm just kinda surprised, has this happened to anyone else? What should we even do, try to get free nice pictures out of it?

>>8084572
If she isn't a weirdo (maybe have a couple more friends/boyfriends attend the photoshoot with you just in case?) I would say go for it. Definitely see what she's up to though, as in like, make sure she isn't going to use your photos for nefarious purposes (idk like, put them up on a weird website or something like that)

>>8084572
I've gotten a card before, usually I get them from students or recent graduates looking for time for prints in exchange for rights to the photos. Most reputable photographers will have some online presence though so search first.

>>8084426
I feel like this is the same seller who tried selling other prints for over 1,000 on LM. Crazy bitches be crazy.

Could anyone recommend a turtleneck cutsew in cream? I've tried trawling taobao, y!j! and lacemarket without much success. I'm considering just buying a regular turtleneck and attaching some cluny lace

>>8084584
>>8084625
i'll check on the online presence later, I seemed to have misplaced the card anyways. thanks for the advice! I might ask a mod in my comm about it and see if she'd go with me and my friend maybe, if the lady turns out clean

>>8084625
I've had a photography student run through traffic to take pictures of me. He gave me his card and tried giving me a digital copy of his portfolio. It was strange.

So, this is a strange question and I'm not sure if I'm in the right thread for it, but here goes.

I post/reblog stuff about lolita fashion on tumblr, but it doesn't show up in the lolita fashion tag at all. What am I doing wrong? (Besides being on tumblr in the first place)

>are u fuckin kidding me

I feel so sorry for Lovely Lor. Why did GLW style her like this? She looks like a sad drag clown. In all the wrong ways.

>>8084723
If you're reblogging it your tags don't matter. Only the original post and its tags will show up on the search. For your original posts I don't know. Your blog might be nsfw and your search set to sfw? Don't know if that actually matters.

>>8084758
they could have made her cuter without the underlashes, the stark plastic wig and the tiny moth mouth

>>8084758
and the bbq stick halo isn't doing wonders either

So a bit of a broad (and transparent) question but what are some simple lolita accessories you'd buy that aren't all over etsy? I'm thinking stuff like nun themed headpieces, bags that go particular well with popular prints, small leather accessories.

>>8084758
She sold out to GLW, don't feel bad for her.

>>8084640
I have one if you'd like it

>>8084758
Holy shit this is Lovely Lor?
They really need to use less makeup on their models. She's not even recognizable.

>>8084768
needs french fries

>>8084773
hope they paid her for pain and suffering. I wouldn't show this to my grandchildren and be proud.

>>8084758
She knew what a clusterfuck GLW was when she agreed to this.

>>8084778
and sauce.

>>8084758
I could almost be okay with this because, it's ~editorial~ or whatever but her little puckered lip makeup is creeping me out.

>>8084773
>>8084789
how much did she get?

>>8084758
Here's the styling unedited

>>8084758
and this is how much cuter the coord could've been without epic fail styling from GLW

>>8084784
I believe 50$ and a wig, but her pain and suffering? As if it wasn't to be expected, just look at GLWs website images where everyone is photoshopped to hell and back.

>>8084796
this reminds me of my Gaia days when I tried to shove as much shit on my avatar as possible. 3 bows and a crown? Let's do it.

>>8084790

>>8084796
Hideous. Though it makes me laugh at how dumb people are so easily convinced to buy stupid shit with a bit of photoshop and bright colors.

>>8084426
Maybe she thought she wrote in another currency?

>>8084945
Hmm, this would make a lot of sense actually, because 1,680 RMB equals about $270 USD.

I don't want to start a shitshtorm, but where can I buy replicas? They are forbidden to list for sales on EGL and are probably forbidden to list on LM as well since I've seen none of them there.

>>8084972
why buy replicas? you can buy the real thing and sometimes even in new condition for way less. i recently bought a AP OP released just last year for $75 (retails for 280) and its in new condition.

>>8084426
TBH people are paying over $1000 for 1st release Misty Sky

>>8084976
I understand your point, anon and yeah I've got a lot of deals on Mbok/Y!j auctions. I've bought some dresses directly from brands too.
But I want one or two "sack-like" OPs (like misty sky) from AP just to wear at home, of course I will never wear them to meetups or teaparties or pretend that it's an REAL BURANDO (just as well bragging on "stoopid brandwhores who pay too much for a mere dress")

Speaking of overpriced shit on LaceMarket...

>>8084982
There are a few different stores that do replicas of Misty Sky OPs and JSKs on TB. They tend not to have many reviews though.

>>8084774
Can you email me details, anon? Price, condition, location?

Can anyone recommend me a bonnet maker, that offers custom colors

>>8085009
Ophanim?

>>8084972
Well, I've seen some in the plus size sales group on FB but those can be uh a little scary and I'm assuming bigger than what you need. Try the off brand sales group on FB. Pretty sure I've seen some on LM too, as well as some on eBay.

>>8084972
I am the same as you. There are a couple places on taobao that make good quality replicas but I always seem to miss the reserve or the release. They are like 50 dollars and I want them to be around the house in or as not lolita coords to wear out.

>>8085009
Cloudberry lady?

>>8085019
Can you post some links to these, please?
I've been seeing a lot of replica-stores on taobao, but they had no reviews from the customers so I was unsure of buying anything.

Does anyone know where I can get a mourning hat from/plume hat from? I know Triple Fortune sell them but there is none on stock on the kera shop.

>>8084972
Dream of Lolita & OoJia

>>8084998
But it's MOMOKO'S DRESS, you guys!

Does anyone know if IW will accept orders for items where the reserve period is over but it hasn't been released yet? I'm the anon from the last thread who hadn't been invoiced by IW, so I emailed them and they replied that the blouse I ordered was sold out (I also ordered a couple of accessories), but I could cancel the order altogether or replace the blouse with something else, and I was thinking of getting the Agatte blouse instead.

>>8084961
>selling original Misty Sky for less than $500

>kek

Does anyone know what this dress is ? I fucking love it. Maybe that's some handmade stuff though.

>>8085431
MM's Antoinette Fleur.

>>8085436
Or Fleur Antoinette, rather.

>>8085436
Thanks you very very much !

>>8085440
No problem! It's a lot of people's dream dress, but it may well be re-released this year, so you could be in luck.

>>8084972
What print are you looking for anon? I've got one from my newb days I've been looking to unload.

>>8085444
That reminds me, does anyone know when Mary Magdalene might rerelease whichever dresses got picked the most on the survey? A month from now? Sooner? Later? I'm sorry, I don't know how Mary Magdalene works

>>8084758
Yeah, this turned out waaay too drag-y, I feel bad for her! She already has a somewhat masculine face, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but the drag makeup just makes it so much worse.

>>8084998
Dayum. Maybe for the Elizabethan OP with matching headdress, but fuck, man, I can find that on mbok for $60.

>>8084758
Way too much shit going on, like do you really need two large headbows AND a zip-tie halo? Not to mention the hideous clown makeup.
The only good thing it does is detract attention from the crappy wig, but that's pretty ugly too.

>>8084426
Fucking chinese driving up the prices of brand. Ugh new rich

>>8084768
It's going to pop the balloons

>>8084331
>I definitely have been drunk on 4chan
>happily married

sometimes you just gotta go get check that dream dress thread

I got a dress where the hem ruffles are smushed/out of shape, want to get them back to being the correct shape again but not sure how, ironing didn't really help

pic related, not the dress but similar

>>8084640
Literally knit and co on taobao.
There's a ton of shops with turtlenecks that have lace and ribbons and other attachments on them.

>>8084972
/cgl/ tends to be useless once you mention replicas anon.
But try Dream of Lolita (taobao), Oo Jia (facebook), and recently Tanaka (taobao). If it's a non-print piece, you can try commissioning someone to do it for you.
Second hand facebook sales also allow replicas sometimes.

>>8085776
Pull them to where they should sit and steam them

>>8085776
Sauce on this dress?

>>8085451
As I've mentioned, I'm looking for AP OPs like misty sky (Melty cream doughnut, sweetie violet and such). But you can tell me what you have anyways, maybe it's something that I'll like!

>>8085951
I don't know the name but it looks like Victorian Maiden.

>>8085221
I'd say ask for the blouse. I asked about a dress the day after the reserve was over and they invoiced me anyway.

>>8085570
MM doesn't have a pattern, they release it whenever they feel like releasing it. It can be next week or next month, so I would suggest having the money ready for it.

>>8085982
Thanks, it's good to hear that! I've already asked them, but I guess I just wanted to know if I should be preparing myself for disappointment or not. Not the end of the world if they say no, anyway, I'll just cancel my order and order my things from the Agatte series when it's released.

>>8085954
Dream Sky JSK. You can email me at the above address if you want pictures or more info!

Is being a 'lifestyle lolita' completely dead? I feel like it's been ages since I saw anything/anyone posting new stuff related to it, aside from tumblr aesthetic blogs. I miss it.

>>8086057
Talking about that anon,
what will Maki and Asuka do?
I mean when they get older?
And Misako?
I keep thinking about them being grannys but still wearing kawaii shit and not giving up their place until they're dead and burried.
Living the kawaii Momoko dream (she wanted to die alone in her appartment in a pretty BTSSB dress)

I'm about to get almost $100 in store credit for Jo-Ann's and was wondering what lace you would recommend for wristcuffs?
Yes, I know the lace isn't the best out there, but with that much in credit, I figure why not give it a shot?

>>8086073
I personally think they'll probably tweak their look to suit their appearance depending on how they age, but at this point I doubt they'd drop their entire wardrobe for frumpy clothes.

>>8085944
I don't have a clothing steamer, should I just...take it to the dry cleaners and explain the situation or is there a DIY method?

http://www.angelicpretty.com/news/chuuijikou/index.htm

I don't get it.

>>8086129
dont be stupid. its obviously saying if you buy AP goods to only scalp, then they will ban you from purchasing if found out.

>>8086144
But it kinda sounds like they don't want you to buy from scalpers.
Could be the engrish, though.

>>8086089
Can you not steam with your iron? Or dampen it and press very lightly with pressing cloth and hot iron

>>8086129
>http://www.angelicpretty.com/news/chuuijikou/index.htm
Is this saying that they don't want you to buy goods secondhand, or just that they don't want people to buy things specifically to sell?

I am surprised they haven't stopped selling to people who own replicas yet and got other brands to follow suit.

>>8086129
I guess if they find you buying a dress then turn around and resale it for a higher price they ban you? Which kinda makes sense, the amount of new popular prints resold same day or what not is fucking nuts. You did not just "decide" after holding it you hated it you dumb fuck. I'm sure there is some who don't like the fit of something, but everyone? You didn't even try it on?

>>8086196
I hate these kind of people, too.
But AP is kinda reinforcing it because they go out of their way to make their stuff "exclusive".
Hence why people go nuts over their releases.
They should make a habit out of re-releasing stuff that sells out within the first 12 hours.

>>8086084
don't bother. you could maybe do some lace cuffs with the eyelet to suit strawberry prints, but I wouldn't waste my time trying to make cuffs with that. Some of it's alright for dresses though.

>>8086129
It says [We prohibit the purchasing of goods with intent of resale. If such activity is discovered, we will terminate our services to you.]

So basically telling scalpers no scalping. Pretty useless since theres no way to enforce or check it.

>>8084426
>Shanghai, China
Oh god I smell drama a mile away. Gonna go do some digging and maybe post it on egl.

>>8086207
God yes, re releases

>>8084758
>>8084796
she has literally turned into a clown with the amount of makeup caked on her face

>>8085994
I see. Do you recommend getting an SS for it?

>>8086387
Not really, MM is kinda unpredictable, but the last few releases they announced it around a couple of weeks beforehand. Just stalk the site every day after the announcement and place the order when you see it pop up. You can of course get a SS if you want, but the SS won't know when the release will pop up either. Depending on how your SS works you might even have to contact them and wait for a response, and lose precious MM buying time.

>>8086144
Only they don't enforce it. Band of Chinese old people aren't buying it for themselves

>>8086446
Alright, thank you!

>>8085776
>>8086089

Back in days of yore someone on egl recommended using a hair straightener like a mini press to get the winkles out of ruffles like those. I haven't had the chance to try if it works, though.

what's the difference between a daily and a lifestyle lolita?

>>8086089
Hang it up in a hot steamy bathroom (run the shower really hot). Use your hands to reshape the ruffles.

Seriously though get an inexpensive steamer.

>>8086518

The "daily" one simply wears lolita daily and considers lolita dresses as "clothes"

"Lifestyle" lolita is often a codeword for "we are lolitas at heart" which means they like the ideal of being some fragile doll princess more than the lolita clothes themselves, the term is very attractive to teens who think they can be lolitas without actually owning any lolita clothing, so it's become a magnet for poor weeby wannabes.

>>8086129
They should stop being morons and pushing empty threats. Everyone knows they don't enforce anti-scalping, they said the same bullshit a year or so ago and lo and behold it's still happening.

I love this brand but I hate the idiots who run it.

>>8086564
theyre japanese what do you expect. plus, how exactly would you enforce it? they tried limiting the amounts of main pieces and accessories but that doesnt help.

>>8086240
Please do, I'd love a followup on this.

>>8086585
>How exactly would you enforce it?
I WOULDN'T!
I would respect my customer's patronage and do made-to-orders like other big brands (BTSSB, Lief, Haenuli comes to mind) or offer multiple releases. There are plenty of brands, both mainstream and indie, who are perfectly okay with satisfying their customers and don't put up false airs about "exclusivity" as an excuse to not make more dresses because they're lazy shits who are afraid of expansion.

>>8086585
>>8086594
Scalping would go away if regular AP customers got what they wanted in the first place and didn't have to resort to the secondhand market because their items sold out within 2 minutes...

According to their facebook page Anna House is having a sale, but nothing is marked down on their website. What's the deal?

>>8086597
I think they do it because it helps keep their value to the consumer up. Reminds everyone that their brand is niche & "prestige" (I know it's not, I can't think of a better descriptor, sorry) when on the second hand market it's still expensive.
Sucks for us, I still haven't been able to wave my cash to their store upfront, full price for brand new product of theirs because I'm slow, unlike other higher end clothes that I do, but oh well.

>>8086609
>I think they do it because it helps keep their value to the consumer up
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I am saying they're huge idiots for thinking that way. It sure makes me not want to respect them.
They can't even respect me for the time I set aside to fight on their awful website and then be disappointed when I walk away with nothing despite being more than willing to pay.

Yes, I know I'm a western piggu and I don't actually matter. But still, their attitude infuriates me.

>>8086618
Oh, I share your sentiments. In 2015, they still couldn't figure out international shipping, or run a webshop so that it doesn't need a third party service like Tenso?
Even a commonman in a China can set up a web shop, have a shipping calculator, and make efforts to sell to you direct.

You should be able to choose your item, calculate shipping to your country, pay, and click submit. It's so basic. 2015, guys.

>>8086609
Brands can't afford to make huge quantities of their stuff because they can't predict what will and won't be a hit. Sure one print might sell out on the day of release, but other prints have been out for months and are still sitting in shops/online without having been bought out first.

I'm not saying that that's the only reason, but you can't expect brands to churn out a ton of a release when they don't know how it will do. Overwhelming demand usually gets re-releases or second runs like Misty Sky and DDC.

>>8086656
All the more reason why they should just turn to made-to-order methods. AP's shitty brand cuts and/or colorways still don't sell well and they wasted money and material making them.

Lief and Haenuli do made to order releases that last usually a few days. Customers with money get to order what they want, poorfags who can't scrounge the money still poor, and the resale value isn't affected unless there's damage or the colorway/cut is bad.
Brand doesn't waste their time or money making a shitload of things that won't sell very well.
Everyone wins.

>>8086632
Ugh, don't even get me started about Tenso..

>>8086609

I wouldn't give them that much credit, I think they're just bad at the business end. It's practically the "build a better mousetrap, world tramples a path to your door, your lousy business practices drive your profit down and you lose customers for being terrible to deal with anyway" sort of tale.

I don't think they've figured out that there's money to be made when one specific cut or colour proves to be more popular than others, eg for CDC, the navy colourway gets scalped the most whereas AP has had to put the pink and lavender on discount just to get them out of the shop. But because not all of the items sold out, they're not going to open a preorder just for the navy colourway, so girls continue to throw money at scalpers while AP loses out putting the unpopular colourways on discount.

Compare with btssb, who said they were going to try and discourage scalpers, and actually seem to be doing something by letting customers buy what they want. With some of the really popular releases (Midsummers Night's Dream, Ave Maria Madonna Lily), when it sold out in reservation they announced additional rounds of reservations, and the additional rounds for Ave Maria were specific to certain colours, I think Baby were somehow able to negotiate their production so that production of those popular colours were higher than others.

AP, in contrast, seems to have a production process that's slow, clunky and set in stone. Even just doing a preorder is like pulling teeth with them, if everything in the shop isn't sold out and being scalped they wouldn't even consider it.

I have considered myself an AP fan in the past, but it's now getting to the point where if I like a dress and it looks like it's going to be popular, I'm already looking for another dress to obsess over instead. I'm not going to encourage the scalpers, and I'm not going to buy a less popular AP release just so I can feel bitter about not getting the dress I wanted.

>>8086187
I've already tried with the iron, it didn't really work out

>>8086543
>>8086485
thank you for the help seagulls, I will try these both, can anyone recommend an inexpensive & effective steamer? I figured the two were mutually exclusive, and it was shell out $$$ to get a steamer

>>8086585
By not letting old Chinese men purchase?

>>8086668
But made-to-order doesn't bring customers into the store. On release days, maybe at least 50 customers show up. Even if they don't get to purchase a main piece, they're in the store, money in hand, probably rage-buying something else. Also keep in mind that BtSSB is a much larger company than AP.

Is Excentrique worth the price? I just saw something on lolita updates by them I want, but they don't really seem like a popular brand. What's the quality like?

>>8086691

They're not going to get much bigger keeping their production runs small while the scalpers take all the profits, and possibly losing customers who are fed-up with their attitude/limitations at the same time.

I can appreciate these brands have limitations, but I also have mine. I'm not going to rage-buy something else just because AP judged wrongly and made too few of the dresses I wanted. As for going in-store, I can't imagine that working out either. How many times do you think you can stand to line up outside AP only to come home empty-handed? After the fourth or fifth time, I would have given up, dumped AP and gone out to find a new love.

>>8084758
Am I the only one that really likes the eye makeup?

>>8086713
>Is Excentrique worth the price?
Yes and no.
The quality is really good but I'm not the type who'd buy their stuff first hand unless I'd 100% fallen in love with the item.The resale value is also quite low and I'm patient enough to wait for a piece, so that does influence my opinion. However if you're willing to pay the original retail price then I think you should go for it.

Excentrique is pretty niche and rather quite so you don't see a lot about them. Their items are also harder to find second hand, so keep that in mind! I guess it's like Jane Marple where older people buy their stuff and then hold onto it for a while.

>>8085015
LM has banned the sale of replicas

>>8084426
Someone commented on there that the proof photos provided by the seller are not theirs. The whole thing seems pretty sketchy imo.

>>8086057
Not dead, more grown up and Classic though. Just check out Fanny Rosies interior design. Still a lot of lifestyle lolitas out there, just not pink puke nowadays.

>>8086787
How about abilletage? I'm crazy mad about their piano skirt, which is a reasonable price in Japan, but with all the other costs it adds up rather much - for "only" a skirt. It looks like it could take a small petti, but I'm really unsure. (And of course it's sold out atm) http://shop.abilletage.com/?pid=83123016

Can bustier/plus sized women wear trapeze and baby doll cut dresses? examples?
I cant find any...

>>8086935
>baby doll
Oh god no.
>Trapeze
HHAAHAHA

>>8086935
You can't find any because those cuts look terrible on bustier/ plus sized women.

I'm 5'7"-5'8" and whenever I lift my arms up in my Celestial dress, the ribbon that sits under the bust casually shimmies its way up. Is there a good way to prevent this? Is it because of my shoddy bow?

>>8086961
You look too tall to wear that as is, let alone raise your arms.
To answer your question I doubt it's the bow's fault. Blame your boobs.

>>8086961
I'm guessing your bust is too big for the dress so it just naturally goes up. Kind of like when you get a shirt that's too small and it will gather up to the waist (if you have big hips).

>>8086771
Nope, I like it in an editorial way. In a lolita sense, I don't like it, but for a creative fashion shoot I do.

>>8086975
>>8086981
I'm a 34A, though. My bust measurements aren't even that large. I can't win, stupid boobs.

>>8086997
I'm betting it's made for a 32 inch bust, unfortunately. Sorry anon.

>>8085570
If you voted in the survey and the item is picked, they'll email you a little before it goes up for reserve.

>>8086961
Your body and height are almost exactly the same as mine. I guess I can give up on the dress then. :\

>>8087038
Sorry for the emoticon, I forgot where I was.

>>8086940
>>8086946
darnit!
What cuts are good for us then?
I have an hourglass shape but my tits put me into plus sized category for lolita, everything else is normal-ish. 105-75-96

Ok along the lines of the babydoll question, different person but something I've been wondering. I have a big bust but I have a babydoll cut dress that I really want to wear and not let go of. Is there any possible way for me to get away with wearing it? A minimizer bra and some sports bras or a too-big chest binder?

>>8086918
Sorry anon, but I don't have any experience with them.
The skirt looks lovely and I agree that it could take a small petti, but I don't think it can take enough for a lolita look.

>>8087048
With your measurements you should look be okay with AP's normal waist dresses with partial shirring, high waisted skirts or just anything that isn't straight down from your boobs. Big busts and babydoll cuts make you look fatter than you are.

>>8084328
Lockshop, better quality

>>8086564
They question you on release days if you aren't in lolita to see if you're really buying it for yourself. Obviously people lie but they do tell the men that they can't buy it until 1PM on release days. They also do have a blacklist that they check.

It's definitely not the best solution though.

>>8087106
Those are both ugly as fuck

>>8086935
When they're pregnant, or want to look pregnant

>>8086713
I agree with >>8086787, I would only buy new if it's something you absolutely have to have and you don't care too much about resale. I've considered buying their corset vests for full price because I like how they fit and know I'd get a lot of use out of them.

Quality-wise, brand-new Excentrique is definitely on the more expensive end, up to around twice what you'd pay for a similar design from IW, for instance. That said, the materials are top-notch; all the hardware is metal as opposed to metallic plastic, and they use really nice fabric and passementerie. Patterns and lace are well-matched at seams, any stress-bearing buttons will be reinforced with a small second button on the other side so they don't come off or damage the fabric.

Resale value is usually around 1/2 to 2/3 the original price for popular pieces, but it can be crazy hard to find something again once it's sold out. To give you an idea of scale, their online store only gets stocked with five pieces of each color/size and I think the Marui store gets about the same.

I'll be posting my wardrobe soon which has some detail shots of their stuff if you want to look for that. I'm also happy to answer questions about the pieces I have.

>>8087147
Looking forward to your post. I really like the way Excentrique looks, military looking lolita got me interested in the fashion but with their prices, the lack of resell value and the lack of second hand available I haven't yet dared to cop something. Maybe if I could try it on in store.

>>8084572
check if she has a respectable online portfolio or website, facebook, forum enties, goddamn deviant art, anything of that sort.

i asked in the last general riiiight before it went saging so asking again!
anyone know some good spots for neat looking sashes other then pizzicato kei and sakurafairy? i tried looking around myself but most things i find are bridal/prom stuff. im having a really hard time finding good things...

Guys I want to start buying some burando bc I only own BL and taobao pieces and I have some newbie questions
Do i have to use a SS to buy from y! or mbook? Will people rely on selling me stuff in LM or EGL without any feedback?
And lastly, I've been looking on closet child and the measurements a really weird, so, is it better to trust the ones in lolibrary?

Thank you so much guys, I've learned everything I know from /cgl/

>>8087218
To buy on y!a and mbok, yes you'll need a shopping service. I think some people have reccommended FromJapan? I haven't ever used those two sites yet so I don't have anything to say personally. As for egl and LM, surely you have eBay feedback right? I used that when I didn't have any yet.

>>8087218
Measurements for the bust are flat (you have to double them), then the waist is listed, then the length. If you can find the lolibrary and official measurements that's even better but the cc ones have always been fine for me.

Not sure why they have the bust as flat and the waist as actual, but they do.
Oh and a ~ means stretches to. eg. bust ~45 would go up to 90.

>>8087234
>>8087224
Thanks guys!
Just checked my ebay acc and actually have a lot of perfect feedback

>>8087224
Different anon but I have never used eBay and have no other kind of online feedback. I've always bought from webstores that don't leave buyer feedback. What do?

>>8087090
Are they really? My vote would be for Lockshop, too, simply because it works out cheaper for me, being in Europe, and Cyperous never really have any styles that I'm interested in, but I've always heard that Cyperous was better quality.

>>8087322
Cyperous is better quality and their wig fibre blends are much more natural.

>>8087328
Yeah, that's what I thought. I've only seen one Cyperous wig in real life, but I couldn't even tell it was a wig at first. As much as I love Lockshop, it's pretty obvious most of the time that their wigs are wigs.

>>8087260

If it's egl, you will still have to apply for a feedback page on egl_feedback in order to sell anything on egl_comm_sales.

As for having zero feedback, you could try and buy some small items from other sellers so they leave feedback for you, but personally I started out posting some inexpensive items. There's always some girls who are willing to take a chance on a new seller for a low risk bargain (of course don't start out posting Misty Sky for $1k ). Do vet your buyers though, it's possible scammers want to pick on you since you're the unknown person with no feedback.

Would it look odd to wear a choker over a high collar?

>>8087463

Depends on the choker. A black lace choker over a white blouse with its own lacey high collar? Yes, that would undoubtedly look very strange.

Actual jewellery choker, like pic related, would look perfect on a high collar.

>>8087473
Hmm, okay, I'll keep that in mind. Asking because I found a nice choker (a cross on black ribbon) that I would've liked to buy to wear with nameless poem but wasn't sure if that'd look too strange or not. I'll keep an eye out for chokers like the one you showed.

Idk if these are replicas. Or what.
But hell they are not even sold out in store.

When a seller asks for an introduction before bidding on mbok, will a SS like Japonica do that? If not, does anyone have a list of smaller SS that do?

>>8087579
Japonica does all that.

>>8087560
I would like to know which taobao store she is ordering them from...

>>8087147
What size do you wear with Excentrique skirts and what is your waist measurement? I found a rather lovely skirt in S/M which the seller lists as 68cm waist. My waist is only one or two cm smaller so I'm not sure if it will fit or 68cm is the absolute max of the fabric.

>>8087588
thanks!

Tell me straight /cgl/, is this blouse design lolita enough?

>>8086713

Excentrique's quality is better compared to most other brands I'd say. The fitting of many (newer) items is kind of weird though. Most of their designs are meant to look a bit roomy and saggy but the arm-opening and frame width measurements of lots of dresses and jackets are VERY genorous to the point where I'd only recommend those pieces if you are on the chubby side. If you are skinny stick to the corset dresses/skirts and corset vests or older pieces. They are usually smaller.

>>8087730

Only thing I would worry about is the bow weighing down on the blouse and making the collar lower than it seems, which may be a problem with some jsks that have higher collars. Otherwise, looks good!

>>8087730
I'd say it's still a bit too plain. Maybe add a ruffle at the neckline, and make the bow a separate pin/tie.

Are any kind anons able to identify these 2 IW items?

>>8087767
> Rose Garden JSK

And the skirt looks similar to the "Frederick" Skirt (NOT Frederick Party) on lolibrary.
If you google IW White Rabbit Skirt you'll get a picture from a girl selling it 1 /12 years ago.

>>8087884
* 1 1/2 years

>>8086594
>>8086597
>>8086609
>>8086618
I also have to say, people should just STOP buying from scalpers, at least if it's clearly above retail.
If no one buys their shit, they'll just give up eventually.
But yeah, it's kinda APs fault and they should really do it like they did with Celestial, make a reservation on items that sell out within 12 or 24 hours.
They have less risk, sell more stuff and keep away scalpers.
Since the reservation period doesn't need to be that long, they also won't hurt their "exclusive" image.
>>8086632
Yeah, I hate it that I need to use a shopping service for an "international" webshop, they kinda treat foreign costumers pretty rude.

So the designer of JetJ posted on their twitter that she made a constellation type/Gemini dress for Ali Project and they wore it on their latest event. The designs for Aliproject are always a bit OTT, but JetJ plan to tone it town and release it for regular customers.

Any pics of the Aliproject dress? I'm intrigued by the theme of the print.

>>8086691
Guess what? Foreign costumers are pretty unlikely to turn up in a store.
And there are still in-store exclusive releases and sales, and I really don't mind that.
But it's kinda shitty that you look forward to a dress, maybe even save up for it, stay up late/get up in the middle of the night, only to see their website crash and when you're finally able to use it 20mins later, everything you wanted is gone, only to turn up on yahoo auctions for three times the original price the day after.

>>8086632
>In 2015, they still couldn't figure out international shipping, or run a webshop so that it doesn't need a third party service like Tenso?

Not at all, they just stopped catering to foreigners on purpose.

This is something that I've been wondering about for a bit- When buying secondhand garments, what amount of scent is considered acceptable?
I mean both good (perfume, laundry soap) and bad smells (body odour, who knows what else). At what point are you just being sensitive and at what point is it worth bringing up to the seller?

Have any of you had an experience where you purchased a garment and it had a noticeable scent?

>>8087942
The worst-smelling thing I ever bought was probably a Meta jacket from Closet Child. It wasn't THAT bad of a smell, but it smelled exactly like the special ed classroom at my old school. Mashed bananas and something else I'm not sure of but it's vaguely unpleasant.

>>8086961
Don't worry, it happens to the japanese girls too.
It's just a shitty design feature

>>8086656
Actually they could predict it somewhat if they had people from their company browse some of the big social sites lolita use online.
If they even simply looked at lolita updates on facebook you can tell what is and what isn't popular. They would just simply need to release a test item before hand like they do already.

>>8087942
I have, received a JSK with a really strong chemical soap smell, sent a quick question to the seller about what was used as I have sensitive skin. Was told that she had the item dry cleaned a few days prior to packing it up and hadn't let it air out.
So new dress was put on dress form for a few days and the smell left quickly.

>>8087943
A few years ago I found a ETC dress I had been searching for for ages on taobao's second hand section. My shopping service snagged it for me but when I got it in the mail, it had the weirdest smell on it. The fabric felt cmally and it smelled extremely moudly, like it had been stored in a wet cellarroom for 20 years. I tried washing it at home several times, but the smell never vanished completely. Took it to a professional cleaner then, fortunately they could fix it.

>>8087069
Anyone have any ideas about this?

>>8087218
>>8087224
I would actually recommed a more personalized SS if you are a newb because they can answer your questions and concerns and guide you through the process. I'd recommend Chibi Tenshi!

>>8087942
For me personally, perfume scent is fine for me since I'm not allergic or particular sensitive to any perfumes. Usually airing them out gets rid of the scent. For body odor, I suppose light odor from places that make sense (like a light whiff of the armpits, idk) but nothing that's noticeable right off the bat.

I bought a BTSSB jsk off the egl sales almost two years ago. When I opened the package I was knocked back by a TERRIBLE scent - I couldn't believe it. It was all over every last inch of the dress. It just smelled completely awful and it was strong as fuck, too - I had to put it back in the bag it came in and tuck it somewhere as I researched how to clean it. Oh god I'm getting phantom smell of it right now as I type this, kill me. I'm not really sure how to describe it other than like....weird, musty, beachy, honestly the scent was so strange I'm not sure if it was bodily or something from nature or what. It was very, very bizarre and I'm still just puzzled thinking about it. But I was a stupid-ass pussy and was afraid to say anything to the seller about it, I know I absolutely should've though. I'm not sure if she forgot to wash it or she used some weird hippie shit to wash it idk. It wasn't cat pee either.
Anyways, the jsk was made of chiffon so I was able to soak it in my tub with cold water with woolite for delicates and throw it in the dryer on delicate, knocked the scent right out. Even putting it in the freezer didn't get the scent out, it just masked it and in a minute or so the scent would come back. I just 500% regret not fucking saying anything about it though, I'm glad I'm not such a doormat anymore.

>>8087960
What does it look like on you? If the waistline of the dress cuts across your boobs there is nothing you can do about it. If your boobs just stick out a lot then yeah wearing a sports bra will be good!

Aside from that, does anyone know if it is possible for me to make my own purses for lolita? Any tutorials?

>>8087942
If the scent fades after airing it out or rinsing it I don't see it as a problem, but if it's very persistent and/or strong enough to knock you on your ass like >>8087976 then it's definitely something you should bring up.

I have this Taobao knit pullover that is absolutely unwearable due to the horrible toxic smell (I've never even tried it on because if it goes anywhere near my face I feel like I'm dying) and nothing I've tried has budged it one bit. The only thing I haven't tried is taking it to the dry cleaners because that feels like too much effort for a $10 pullover but I'm starting to see it as a challenge. Of course since it's Taobao it's not like I can contact the seller and complain about it...

So, I have absolutely no feedback anywhere, but I really want to clean out my closet. How do I convince people I'm not just a scammer?

>>8088026
I sold stuff on LM without feedback. As long as you have decent proof pictures, you should be fine.

>>8088026
good pictures with a proof thing, well put together selling post, be prompt with responding, up front with shipping dates e.g. if you can only send out on Tuesdays)

>>8087982
I have a friend that designs his own purses so yeah, you can definitely do it! Are you looking to make just like, shaped, sweet-type purses or more toned down ones? Either way there's definitely just regular purse tutorials, guides, books, videos, etc. I would say start out with something from there to get down stitching, patterns, etc. general how-to and then move on to designing or modifying patterns you've found to make them suit lolita.

>>8088026
>only offer tracked and insured shipping
>do not accept gift payments
>lots of proof pictures, maybe some worn pictures or some kind of time-stamp
>don't overprice your items
>if you have lots of sought after/rare items, don't sell them all at once, make sales posts in batches

>>8087931
You'll most likely see it in the GLB that comes out in Feb.

Somewhat related to the purses thing, is it in the least bit lucrative to sell lolita accessories? I have a lot of time on my hands and can sew, and am also willing to learn how to create jewelry or even make things like bags. I know I probably won't make huge cash on it but I enjoy making things and wouldn't mind making some extra change while ~giving back to the community and doing something I enjoy~. What sorts of things are people interested in? I was thinking of making typical stuff like head accessories (head bows, headdresses), wristcuffs, brooches, some jewelry, and then maybe stuff like sashes, fur collars, purses, etc. Are there other things people look for that aren't always commonly sold from handmade sellers?

>>8088064
Fake nun collars. I'm also interested in any sort of head accessories or small hats that are elegant for gothic/classic but not the usual bows or flowers. 20s stuff, stylized horns, crowns. Also decent looking (leather or pleather) fake bat ears to attach to any shoes. Embroided berets would probably also sell well if you can do that.
Honestly there are so many people doing bows and shit you have to have your own style and niche or just offer higher quality products.

>>8088026
You could buy a few small things on the LJ sales comm and get feedback from the sellers.

Could someone help me?

I just received an op the other day through my shopping service(fromjapan), I just looked at it today and noticed there's some damage to one of the shoulder seams(it's pulling apart in the back a bit, this was not mentioned or shown on the sales page and I have not tried it on yet but was just about to), the waist ties weren't included(seller on y!a didn't seem to mention this), and two tiny orange speck stains(definitely was not from me as the dress was wrapped in two bags of plastic+the shipping package when I took it out, and it immediately was hung up in my closet between black dresses)

My package was insured so can I do anything form here? And what do I need to do?

>>8087560
They're replicas, I was going to buy them myself but I've already but decided on buying from y!a instead. I forget the store.

>>8088026
As other anons have mentioned, provide good proofs and tracked shipping. And no "payment as a gift" option on paypal.

You can also just try posting your items here. I've purchased several items off of seagulls and I've been satisfied every time - it seems like that's the majority case here, too.

>>8088204
Insurance only covers damage during shipping. If you didn't use FJ's check service to go over the op before they shipped it out, you're out of luck.

>>8088227
Do you think it;s worth it to email them anyways? The waist tie thing is annoying, but I'm really only concerned about the damage to the shoulder since I'll have to take it to a seamstress for that.

>>8087932
>Foreign costumers
I am sorry if I come off rude or like I am trying to correct you, but I have seen your posts about 'costumers' (people who sew elaborate outfits) before and wanted to ask if you meant 'customers' (as in people who purchase goods) instead.

>>8087942
I find steaming my garments is really good for freshening them up and getting rid of most smells.

>>8087942
I once bought an ETC JSK from the comm sales and it smelled really bad, like strong BO mixed with perfume. I got rid of it after two washes and as the transaction went smooth otherwise, I left positive feedback. I messaged the girl, though, and told her about the small. I was pretty nice and told her that I got rid of it, so it's fine, but that she might be more careful in the future because some girls might react worse. I never got a reply or feedback. She was otherwise sweet, though, and has lots of positive feedback...so maybe she just messed up this one time.

>>8087730
I like it, but it is a little plain. A wider cuff is also more lolita, so maybe modifying that would help?

>>8086918
I have the piano scarf and it's nice. 60 seems fair for it. Not sure about their skirts.

>>8088275
>strong BO mixed with perfume
I had this happen to me with an AP OP I bought off the comm sales before, too. It was really weird, though, as far as I know it was fine until after the first time I wore it, and then it started to smell horrible around the armpits. It definitely wasn't just me, because my BO doesn't smell anything like that. It took more than one wash to get out, too, but it left in the end.

>>8088204
>can I do anything form here
No.

And that damage sounds extremely fucking minor. If you were going to be this concerned about it, you should've ponied up a few extra bucks for FJ's inspection service.

>>8088249
Sorry, not a native speaker, I meant customers.

Has this person been involved in some kind of drama at some point? The godawful writing/avatar/username and general desperation ring a bell.

>>8088319
I'm only asking because with pp you can usually get partial refunds for items not being as described(including damage). It's more than "extremely fucking minor"(the stains are so no big deal for those, it's the seam I'm worried about since I will have to pay to get it fixed, and can't wear it as is)

Can anyone explain the missing waist tie thing though? I've heard this seems to be a bit common with Japanese sellers. I get keeping a detachable bow, but keeping waist ties seems a bit strange.

>>8088342
They usually lose them.

>>8087942
I got an AP bag off auction that smelled like a goddamn ashtray. If I hadn't used an SS I would have asked for a partial refund probably. I just hung it out and put a car freshener in it and it eventually faded, took a while though.

I hate it when people mislabel shit. I feel like they do it to get bids.

>>8088365
I'm going to feel really sad for the girl who realizes that it's from F+F when it gets to her house.

I'm asking here because the Help thread is about to die.
I have a F+F white JSK with black polka dot trim. Oddly enough, the white version of the dress in the post above me. It has some discoloration on the front and lace. I'm trying to sell it. Do I dare bleach it or be safe with OxyClean? Or say fuck it and try to sell it with the discoloration?

>>8088448
I so want to message the seller. I'm on thin ice as it is with eBay - dumb buyer got pissy because she failed to read my shipping time.

>>8087765
That's my only concern, too, but it might not be too bad for skirts. A higher neckline/ruffled collar would make it more versatile for jsks. Call me a basic bitch, but I like it on the plain side as it is. I'm having a tough time finding lolita specific blouses that aren't made with big ass peter pan collars plus 2" of lace in width.

Has anyone seen an auburn wig, similar in style to rhapsody, or any of the cheaper sites?
I checked l'email and ebay already but nada.

>>8088342
But if you ask for a partial refund you're basically fucking the SS over since they have to pay out of pocket, because you wouldn't spend a few bucks for the inspection service. It's not your SS's fault.

>>8087942
I got an oldschool meta tartan set that had a very strange bad odor. Nothing I did ever got the smell out all the way and I tried everything. My friend still loved the set, but we spritz something on to help cover it. At least you only smell it when your face is really close.

>>8088451
Oxyclean should be fine, prepare to offer a big discount for staining though

>>8088227
>>8088319
Only ever used FJ for Sailor Moon stuff and never clothing before, but never knew they had an inspection service. Nice to know.

>>8087942
Not lolita-related, but I bought an obi once that arrived with the nastiest combination of cigar, fish, and body odors. I tried absolutely everything short of machine washing it (which I can't do) and the smell still lingers. It's currently stored in an air-tight box that I plan to open in someone's face as a prank someday.

>>8088635
> fish
Haha... ha... ha.

>>8088610
Oh that's a given. Hell, almost tempted to give it away because I want it gone.

>>8088448
And bodyline is better?

Does anyone know where I can get an underskirt like this, except navy blue, by April? The Taobao store I wanted it from isn't accepting orders until after Chinese new years, which is a bit too late for me.

>>8088551
you literally just need to search "rhapsody wig"

What's the general consensus on this? I really like it, but I don't think it could possibly be corded well. Its... so busy.

>>8088559
Well no, if they bought insurance it's not the SS that pays it out

>>8089105
Hmm, I think you could make an alright coord, but it would have to be a bit plain, something like an ivory or cream colored blouse, bow the same color as the one on the dress, white/ivory tights or socks with a very simple design, maybe shoes that also match the color of the bow (navy/black depending on the dress) and idk, a bag that matches/brings out one of the colors in the panels of the dress. That sounds awfully boring but like you said, the dress is so busy I'm not sure if you can get too crazy with this.

That said, at first glance I didn't like it but the more I look at each little panel or whatever on the dress more I kinda like it.

>>8089105
If only each of those little frames was a clow card.

>>8089105
Use solid colors, not more patterns. I think the first JSK and blouse are lovely, the OP is rancid. Wouldn't get the tights either.

>>8087942
I bought a bag from baby directly and it reeked of cat piss. I tried everything, ground coffee, baking soda, air freshener but it took me a few weeks until the smell faded. It's still not completely gone yet but at least usable.

>>8089151
Actually, this reminded me, does anyone remember the story of the girl who said she ordered from a brand (I THINK it was IW) and said a cat somehow got into the box and pissed itself everywhere and died? I'm sure it was bullshit, but did she ever deliver proof?

>>8089153
I doubt anyone ships in boxes big enough to accommodate an extra cat. What a waste of space.

>>8089161
I dunno man, cats can fit into some tight spots.

Is there some place I can look up the differences between original and replica brand? Does Oo Jia for example copy everything down to the brand name in the collar or is the lack of that a giveaway?

>>8089167
Depends on which replica it is. Some replicas, i.e. Milky Planet, you can look up real vs replica and there's posts out there that show you the differences. As far as I'm concerned no one ever replicates the actual brand tags on the inside if that's what you mean. There's also plenty of posts (egl and elsewhere) that show you typical things to look for when identifying a replica from the real thing (for example, if the pattern gets cut off at the end in an odd way like in the middle of the print). Did you buy something and aren't sure if you got ripped off with the replica or not? You could post here and anons could take a look at it if you can't tell from looking at pictures of the original.

>>8088946
IW has one: http://innocent-w.jp/onlineshop/en/144203.html

>>8089114
But postal insurance only covers damage that occurred through mailing, and the post office has to agree to pay out. Getting stuff not quite as described is just one of the hazards of buying off auctions with bad photos and little description through a middle-man.

>>8089167

Oo Jia does not replicate the brand tag as far as I know. Her replica's are not of bad quality imo but you can really tell the difference because the cut of the dress and the fabric are different.
I have Shirley Deer's Twinkle Ornament replica (which was very limited) and it's spot on. Never seen a replica quite like it, it is brand quality.
But even that doesn't have a fake AP tag inside.
No one can be fooled by DOL though. Horrendous quality.
There are a few new shops replicating though and they look very good on their sample photo's but I don't think any of them have fake tags inside either.
I've stopped purchasing replica's years ago and sold most of them off because I felt guilty though.
Are you afraid you have been scammed? It's possible that someone bought a cheap real brand kc and took the tag off, put it inside the dress to make it appear to be the original.
I believe it happened a couple of times before?

>>8089170
I'm looking at a Black Cat, Witch and the Apple Tree skirt on lacemarket but the seller location being China is just a little worrying. The one video review of their replica says something about different lace at the bottom but I can't find a picture of that for comparison.

>>8089105
Love, love, love the lighter colorway. The darker colorway looks too busy and grid-like. I really wanted to snag the beret for some cute otome coords but it sold out too fast.

>>8089242
>>8089247
Also adding to that the picture quality is just so shitty, it's not just my horrible racism.

>>8089161
If anyone would it's IW. Had a blouse and shoes in a box which was over half a metre long...

>>8089242
The twinkle ornament was supposedly produced by the original factory back when AP still manufactured in China. I hear their Dream Sky factory originals are just replicas tho, banking off their previous reputation.

>>8089105
>>8089108
I'd like it a lot better if the chest bow was plain, like the one on the waist. It feels very busy along the bust with all the patterns.

>>8089005
Both sites don't turn up wigs in this style in auburn, just millions of pages of every other colour, too many to sift through. Searching 'auburn' with it brings up one or two at the same price as GLW.

Where should I be searching, literally?

>>8089322
Did you try taobao or alieexpress? Also, take note of the way some sellers on ebay describe the wig. If they call it something other than rhapsody wig, like, I dunno, long fluffy wavy wig for example, you may want to take a crack at that if you haven't already.

Newbie SS question here: do you have to wait until Japonica Market is actually open for business hours to send in your deposit/auction order for an urgent order? or should i just send it in asap so they see it when they open up again?

>>8089362
You send the order whenever. Japonica will respond during their business hours.

>>8089365
thank you!

>>8089108
>>8089105
Meta emailed out a 10% discount coupon for this just fyi

>>8089247

I just viewed the auction, and I believe the skirt is autentic. Looked for pics of the skirt on google and the lace definitely looks the same (see pic).
The replica looks very dull, the red is supposed to be really vibrant (in my experience with AatP reds). http://tw.taobao.com/item/38967106137.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-6259128022.12.5s27AT

Hope this helped for you.

>>8089254

That explains things then. Perhaps it was also left over fabric? I've heard about leftover fabric before.

>>8089540
Ah thanks, the replica does look horribly dull.

>>8087730
>>8087765
>>8087766
>>8088280

Thanks for the feedback gulls. Gonna git this done. (As soon as I make a black that fits my retarded proportions.)

I'm new to buying on Lacemarket and I bid on this dress from a girl with no feedback (I have no feedback myself, so I thought why not, since the pics looked legit).

I won the auction and immediately asked for some sort of proof pics (my name and her name on a paper next to the dress). Later I noticed that I received an invoice for a gift payment to a generic Chinese name, with a very robotic message next to it.

Should I report her and nope the fuck out immediately? I a noob with these things and mega paranoid...

>>8089618
You asked for proof after the fact?? Plus, if you nope out she can give you negative feedback, for non-payment. Getting scammed is definitely worse but you really should have thought this through, anon.

>>8089618
If there's no proof pics, report to mods. In the future, best to ask for proofs before the auction closes.

>>8089618
Yeah, asking for proof pics after winning is dodgy. Ask her to send an non-gift invoice and then worry if she refuses, but to be honest, there's not much else you can do now that you've won the auction. You're obliged to pay unless you've got good reason not to.

>>8089620
As I said, I'm new with this. The auction was expiring in 2 minutes and the pics really looked legit.
But I do agree that I'm a fucking idiot and should probably stay away from second hand selling.

>>8089631
Next time you should wait for the auction to expire and then message the seller asking if the item is still available. From there you can go and ask for proof pics. They might even let you ask for a discount since their item didn't sell at the previous price.

>>8089656
People had already bid on the auction, so I guess my bidding was a bit desperate.
In any case, I sent the seller a message about the "gift payment" thing almost an hour ago and they haven't read it yet. So hear I am waiting and feeling dumb.
Thank you everyone for your advice

>>8089661
here*

>>8089661
what was the listing, out of interest?

>>8089629
>>8089618
I think no communication and a gift invoice are a good reason to refuse payment. Especially the gift part. And if you're worried about the negative feedback keep in mind you could just make a new account.
Also did you check the list of scammer names/paypals on lacemarket?

>>8084328
I personally use ebay and Amazon, only gotten a crappy wig once, and it was my first wig, so I didn't know what to look for.

Otherwise, I've gotten about 5 or 6 good wigs from there

>>8089700
>using amazon

>>8089670
It was for a BtSSB Chained Berry Memoir JSK. The pics looked legit to me but maybe I'm too naive?

>>8089672
I checked the list of scammers and only found one that also came from California, but it didn't have the same post code. I think that is as close as it could get from the seller's info.
Heck, now that I re-read the invoice, she asked for payment through a phone, so no e-mail address available (didn't know you could do that on PayPal). Argh, feeling even more dumb.

>>8084426
>overpriced brand
>uses stock photo
>no proof photos
>from china
>no feedback
>seems legit

my jimmies are rustled, damn it.
There are people in lolita who are dicks to poor girls, definitely, but I'm sorry, there's just no excuse to spend $100+ on a replica. Why does someone *need* to have milky planet, misty sky, LBC, etc so bad they need a replica of it?
I think it's just stupid logic to excuse it out of not having enough money to spend $400+ on an OP because you can *literally* get just as nice dresses on fucking TAOBAO, custom sized, for forty-five fucking dollars. You can also buy pieces from closet child for fifty, eighty, one hundred. But obviously as soon as I sent an ask and mentioned buying brand pieces from closet child for 50 dollars she doesn't answer my question but makes a passive aggressive post on her blog about a "brand obsessed" anon, despite the fact that I mentioned taobao. Just because I mention that you can buy a brand skirt on cc for 50 bucks doesn't make me brand obsessed?

I'm buttmad.

>>8089718
Oh god, and now she turned her ask off because people "jumped on her for a small rant". I'm sorry, but if you're going to post a turbulent opinion that always, always, ALWAYS rocks the boat on a website where everyone can see it, and also TAG it with a subject that will make everyone in a particular group see it, why would you get sandy that someone dare try to speak with you about it? I wasn't even rude in my asks at ALL. I would've been completely open to a rebuttal that made the least bit of sense but instead she decided stick with her nonsensical logic. Okay. Time for me to sit down and drink a cup of tea or something.

>>8089703
Hey, I have free 2 day shipping, and I always double and triple check to make sure it's decent. If I'm pressed for time, I'll go Amazon

>>8089718
people who buy replicas are generally the ones with the worst attitudes. this person is no different
>wah wah i don't hev monieees china should just shit out replicas and knockoffs of everything so i can be just like the people i'm bitching about!!!
yeah, china should just do that with everything, cars, phones. hell, houses are too expensive, people NEED them, i'll make mine out of particle board and plastic, that'll show em!

>people bitching about classism
>same people also think socialism/communism is wrong and icky
>probably self described anarchist and SJW

>>8084761
I heard Tumblr only sorts the first 5 tags

I.e. #lolita #japanese fashion #angelic pretty #ap #jsk #brand

Only the first 5 of those will search, if you search for brand, it won't show up.

That's just what I heard

>>8089742
My SO can confirm this.

>>8089733
the main thing that annoys me is like...there are so many things that are legitimate classism (i know this kind of thing will probably get me laughed at on here) but this reminds me when that person on one of the lolita facebook groups talked about "brand oppression".

it's just like...here's the thing: lolita clothing isn't a necessity, this is pretty much a collector's hobby. i'm not saying you need to be rich or leave, but why would you want to pay so much money for something that isn't so nice? at this point, there's also so many taobao stores that sell prints that are very similar to other prints people like. i always, always ask, in spite of money, in spite of size, etc. why do you NEED *that* one???

sage because this topic is so beat to death

Honestly is the replica discussion any different from pirating discussions? I can spot about two differences
>a different company is making profits with replicas vs mostly non profit (think rapidshare plus accounts) sharing among media consumers
>people can't make pirating discussions about money, fatness, priviliges and classicism

>>8089151
Hydrogen peroxide gets out cat piss. Not sure if you can put it on whatever dress you have though.
But I've used it on cotton from owning a kitten who wasn't fully potty trained yet.

>>8089758
learn to quote.

>>8089151
Along the lines of what >>8089766 said, assuming it really is cat piss, you may also want to try Nature's Miracle or another similar spray (if you haven't already) used to break down the enzymes in cat pee, if it really is cat pee. If it isn't, maybe it'll still help get the smell out idk.
My cat peed on my Doc Marten boots real good and I used it to get the atomic stench out and it worked pretty well. They were oxblood and the dye ran a bit, though, but to my understanding red dyes tend to run anyways.

n00b here, anyone know if pic related has shirring or not? lolibrary isn't helpful

http://lolibrary.org/apparel/noble-du-chat-skirt

>>8089826
It looks like it doesn't need shirring as it has an elastic band all the way round.

>>8089830
th-that's what I meant, elastic. didn't know if it was actually elastic or just gathered at the top. sorry

>>8089837
I had to scroll back up because when I went by the first time I thought that was a fuzzy dick. Whew, glad it's a bunny.

>>8089860

>>8089860
>>8089865
>>8089837
i'm glad this thread went so well

>>8089718
>feels entitled to low-quality duplicates of status items she doesn't need
>calls other people brand obsessed
lol ok
If she doesn't care about brand or status why doesn't she just buy nice affordable off brand pieces that don't involve art theft?

>>8089779
Learn to 4chan.

>>8089618

LM rules:
Photos and Image Requirements: 1 Proof Photo Min. Photo must be original photo of item IN HAND
>your seller failed to do that

Don't pay with the gift option. If I were you I'd contact a mod anyway, all seems dodgy as fuck.

>>8089718

Aww poorfag got all butthurt.