/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

still has black, but it isn't the main colour.

>>8054934
sauce on the shoes?

>>8054934
That shoop on her face is so bad, it looks like they cut and pasted her face from another picture

>>8054950
This is a gothic thread, anon

>>8055130
if this isn't some kind of gothic coord, what is it? Because it's definitely not classic or sweet.

>>8055133
Sweet in darker colors perhaps.

>>8055133
Looks pretty sweet to me

>>8055133
It's sweet, are you blind? Do some research on the basics of the 3 main styles.

>>8055164
looks like we got a pro here, girls

>>8055133
Dude it's sweet as fuck. Get out of here.

It's hard to find stuff that doesn't have strong black accents.

Wig styling and hairbow are sweet but with a bit of tweaking this could be pretty gothy.

>>8055171
If you think you need to be a pro to tell the difference between gothic and classic, you are a huge noob.

Everything else I have is either questionably goth or just more pictures of Iraliina in this outfit.

>>8055200
>>8055189
This is classic too me. How do you classify dark classic apart from goth and light colored goth from classic, especially when their is almost no jewerly/no obvious classic or goth themed items ? Does that depend on the general wearer's style ? Or the brand ?

>>8055199
>>8055200
classic not gothic....

>>8055236
all those clashing reds

>>8054950
I like Holy Lantern. I think there's a fair lot of sweet/classic and classic/gothic mixes around but sweet/gothic is a harder blend. The only other examples I can think of are halloween things like Merry Makin in the Ghost Town or Guilty Meltin Sweets Town, and they come at it from the other direction.

>>8055289
You're an idiot.

>>8055128
Its not shopped. Trust me.

>>8055358
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/S7924952#p7926150

Try again, dumbfuck. The girl in the photo admitted to overshooping it herself.

>>8055164
its just a more cute gothic style?

>>8054941
What's gothic at this? Looks like bad classic.

>>8055181
Such a pity it wasn't as nice irl

>>8055421
Probably the fact that it's from Moite.

Which then begs to ask, is it the brand focus that stops something like >>8054950 being gothic? Is it the neckbow, or the dress cut? The print in itself isn't sweet, and can be perfectly Gothic.

I'm not claiming the Moitie dress, or the AP one are gothic or not, I'm enquiring.

>>8055186
Someone missed the sarcasm.

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>>8056339
I'm a fan of black-and-red coords, obv.

>>8056345

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>>8056378
And I'm done.

>>8054950
So if something is in a babydoll cut, does that automatically make it sweet? The print looks very gothic to me, and seems to excuse the cut of the dress. Perhaps if she had a different headpiece and shoes, would that make it more gothic?

>>8056398
I don't think the dress itself has to be inherently sweet, but it's definitely coorded in a sweet way here. I do think it'd make quite the difference if the shoes and headbow were changed.

ITT 90% classic, not Gothic.

>>8056632
Put up or shut up.

>>8056406
I disagree. If you remove the print entirely from the dress, cut and the oversized bow on the collar still lend themselves much more to sweet, and while the print has a gothic motif the way that it's rendered with the little sparkle bits and the stars makes it a great deal more cutesy that what you'd usually see in gothic.

If anything it would be gothic-influenced sweet.

>>8055186
whoops ultra late reply. was more commenting on the know it all Hermione Granger tone of the post. be chill.

>>8056662
On point

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e366/tamulove/day9.jpg

Posting what I've got.

>>8056796
Dipping into my ero folder a bit soon, it'll be a mixed bag.

>>8056662
Some Moitie dresses have the same little sparkle bits tho.

>>8056799

leaving you with some non black gothic inspo since it appears I'm out. Night folks.

>>8056800
But does it also have little stars at the end of them? Or a bunch of the other stuff I mentioned in the same piece?

>>8056334
The cankles happening in this pic tho

>>8055196
This photo makes me uneasy for some reason. Looks kind of creepy.

>>8055473
>>8056398

I don't think you can really isolate anything much from this outfit that isn't sweet. If anything, only the black and white theme, the crosses and the photo background/props are giving me a gothic vibe. Everything else about it -- babydoll cut, the shorter length, the sparkly print, the large-sized neck bow, the bling on the large-sized neckbow, extra ruffles on the large-sized neckbow, the wig styling, the makeup, the giant hairbow, extra layers on the "tail"of the giant headbow, the shoes, the bows on the shoes, the lace at the hem, the extra large cuffs, the lace on the extra large cuffs, the posing, the smile -- it all adds up to a sweet lolita look.

Like if you had an outfit that only had a few of those items you could argue that Moitie also has sparkly dresses or Millefleur has a lot of tulle lace or something, but here in this outfit, every little thing is here, and every little thing points to sweet.

>>8055473
i'm also really curious about this and would love to hear some seagull opinions

>>8054950

I can't argue with everyone. It is sweet lolita.

However, I agree with you, even if it is sweet lolita, the motifs certainly fit with gothic fashion outside of lolita.

Harlequin Checkers and crosses tend to be popular among the goth kids. I think you'd blend in fine in that.

>>8056796
this is mostly black tho

>>8055363
Fair enough asshole, didn't see that old post.
Mind you, I see her on tumblr a lot and she always looks great so so what?

>>8057309
Regardless of whether or not she looks great in other photos, don't go around blowing shit out your ass when you actually have no idea what you're talking about.

>>8055057
they look like irish dance shoes, probably replicas that can be used as street shoes

>>8057319
Ghillies, for future reference

>>8057309
>>8057312
This whole thread needs to calm down, but especially you two.
Chances are that, aside from the shoop, the girl is wearing foundation with an SPF. That reacts with flash photography and makes the face look blank and mask-like.

>>8055057
They were made by a brand called Hobbs about 2 years ago and also came in dark green.

>>8056816
...you don't have seen much Moitie so far, don't you? They could win an award for cheesy prints and sweet goth.

>>8056852
By your definition this is sweet too even while it isn't. The strict seperation between styles is stupid anyways, there are way too many crossovers these days and a plain black dress for example could be turned into either Sweet, Goth or Classic only depending on the headwear alone.

>>8057312
Speak for yourself?

Irish dance shoes... seriously? Since when do they have heels like that?

>>8057413
I don't care what style pic related is but it looks like shit. More cosplay than lolita.

>>8058230
>not knowing nun lolita
Newfag detected.

>>8058232
Uh I was thinking about the wig and useless eyepatch. I owned the Atelier BOZ nun OP once. Still regret selling it.. God-tier dress.

>>8058252
So pretty much every lolita must be cosplay then, huh?

>>8058270
That's not what I said, or atleast was not intent to. Call me old fashioned but I prefer natural hair colours in lolita and simpler outfits. Random elements does nothing for me. That's my preference. I got into the fashion a couple of years before wigs where a requirement and maybe that's why I'm biased.

>>8058232

Nuns don't dye their hair a bright pink either.

She looks like a character from a harem anime, not a nun.

>>8057413
Ugly. Pink wig looks really bad with this.

Not sure if this would be considered classic, but to me it has a goth vibe.

>>8057413

Anon you replied to, and nah, not really.

>no giant neckbow
>no giant headbow
>no ruffles on cuffs
>no bows on shoes
>not enough lace/ruffles on the dress

disregarding that yes, this does indeed look like some sort of animu weeb closet cosplay.


You need to read more carefully. What I said was ALL of the features I mentioned point to sweet, so it's very difficult to say that Holy Lantern outfit is anything but sweet.

You cannot single out one feature, slap it onto a gothic dress and then call the gothic dress sweet.

It's not a matter of ONE headbow or ONE extra layer of ruffles. It's the headbow AND the ruffles AND the neckbow AND the shoe bows AND the cuff lace AND everything else.

>>8058232
>Mini hat
>cosplay wig
>guro
>nun
>MINIHAT
get out of muh lolita.

Why is this thread such UTTER SHIT? Jesus fucking christ

>>8058698
What are you smoking?

>>8057064
Navy, nigguh.

>>8058232
That's not nun lolita. The dress is, the rest of the styling isn't.

>>8057064
no thats the black x blue colourway. there is no black x navy?

>>8055178
clearly gothic revival lolita

>>8054950
This is sweet, but its more about the feel of the outfit. Im not going to be an ass like >>8055164, im going to explain, unlike this rude little cunt.

1. The make up and baby face the look is trying to give off. Yes, dark colors are used, but long princessy lashes and pinky blush for a more youthful look will always make an outfit lean a little towards sweet.

2. The big wired headbow! A gothic coord might use a bonnet instead. This headbow gives off a feeling like she is a cute doll.

3. Hair - although this wig style can be pulled off in gothic, its very far from the epitome of goth. Curled-in hime cuts are very popular with youthful looks right now, and the general shape of the wig has been popular with sweet for a few years. Imagine this wig is blond-- now suddenly, you can imagine it with any typical sweet coord. Yes its dark and gray.. But its the feeling that will tell an experienced lolita its more familiar with sweet.

Tights and shoes- i typed a lot and i don't really feel like expanding on this anymore, but tldr this combo is very common in circus themed sweet coords.

Most of these points made are little "feelings" of sweet. A logical, rule-based argument can be made for why this coord is gothic.but in the end, i think this coord is gothic-inspired sweet.

>>8059462
Shut the fuck up, you don't know shit. Hurry up and kill yourself.