/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Do you really know you're hot though

at worst, i am a butterface, considering my measurements are incredibly desirable and less than 1% of the population has them. i can live with being a butterface if so

>>7975331
but from a lesbian perspective i would totally do me. a girl who looks just like me is kind of my ideal

>>7975339
Well if you wanna masturbate to yourself thats fine, but I just feel like attractiveness is ultimately something other people judge and determine.

>tfw you really want a cute gf to introduce you into lolita and show you things that are pretty but you're a shy fatty-chan hermit
it's okay, I wouldn't date me either.

lol how much more of a frothing rage would it have sent u into if i did post my measurements?

>>7975341
your perspective is valid but i just disagree. i wouldn't trust other people's perspective on any other matter of taste more than my own - why is this different?

and would you consider a girl you found ugly beautiful just because many other people did? if not, why a different standard for yourself?

but the measurements thing is going by "studies" so that is sort of letting others decide

>how many of you are not cray cray?

FTFY

>>7975381
if having self esteem is wrong i dont want to be right

>>7975354
Measurements can be faked. Post pics or stop being an attention whore. Also if you only post measurements it probably means you're, at best, a butterface.

>>7975357
>i wouldn't trust other people's perspective on any other matter of taste more than my own - why is this different?
Well I suppose there's no point arguing with somebody who thinks their own opinion on literally everything is always correct.

>>7975357
Dunning-kruger

>>7975387
i didn't post any measurements lol. cause this wasn't a bragging thread. like i said i'm okay being a butterface if people see me that way. but i think i'm hot as hell and that's all that matters to me.

>>7975388
probably no point in arguing with someone who can't read but i said matters of TASTE. are you going to take someone else's opinion on who is hot and who is not, on what movies and music is enjoyable, on what food tastes best, on what coords look nice and which look like shit?

there is a difference between acknowledging someone's superior knowledge of a subject, and acting like opinions and preferences are matters of fact. which they are not.

>>7975390
expect that this isn't a matter of competence or skill. this is a matter of preference or opinion. why should some random's aesthetic preference mean more to me than mine? i can't think of any level of training that qualifies someone to be an expert in analyzing beauty which i should be deferring to (not that you can - beauty being subjective beyond basic symmetry and basic desirable qualities)

and i'm sorry but if you rely on other people's criticism or praise to define you or tell you where you are in life, you won't go far. love yourself

Do bisexuals count? I have a bit of crush on my loli oneechan but she's more into the idea of sexytime than actually going there with anyone atm. Sometimes I wonder if I'm being a creep, sometimes I let her be as touchy feely as she wants.. She was my ouji this one time which made me feel like a special snowflake giggling like a tard all day...

And the bf is jelly

I grew up being bullied at school and really harshly on the net when I've posted pictures of myself. On one hand I get told I should put a bag over my face and be gangraped or people go nuts telling me I'm really pretty literally leaving hundreds of pages of comments. I never know where I stand or if it's ok to consider myself attractive.

I also was never successful dating. I met my guy online, because none of my guy friends wanted relationships per se or were busy chasing girls who were mean to them.

I have acne, scars and stretchmarks but I do have thick thighs, a big ass, 37 inch hips but a 23 inch waist and DDs which apparently is pretty good. I would love to flirt and eat cake with some pretty girls but the bf is too shy to engage. He wants to be in on this two-cute-girls-fantasy but I got to do all the legwork....

>>7975329
>op is the only kawaii gay in the village
Probably a troll post right?

It's common knowledge here that a large portion of lolitas are lesbians.
It's only understandable that if there are a lot of them, and also that they use cgl, then there will be a few decent ones.

>>7975403
>flirts with girls
>boyfriend is jelly
maybe stop being a slut, maybe? If you're in a relationship don't go slutting it up, break up first for god's sake.
Just because it's with a girl doesn't mean it isn't cheating, and you're showing how serious you aren't by treating it as harmless fun while in a relationship. How would you like it if your boyfriend went and flirted with other girls? Not so cutesy and innocent, is it?

>>7975406
>He wants to be in on this two-cute-girls-fantasy but I got to do all the legwork....
Can you read?

>>7975395
I believe I already addressed that.

If you find yourself attractive thats all fine and dandy, for masturbating or other solo-activities. But if you actually want to do something with other lesbians they have to find you attractive too.

The fact that you're complaining you can't find any leads me to believe that they don't.

>>7975403
It's people like you who are the reason that bisexuals don't get taken seriously. Being bi doesn't mean that you have to go and flirt with both genders. If you're in a relationship be in a fucking relationship.
People think bisexuals are more likely to cheat for a reason, and congrats, you're that reason.

>>7975411
>>7975419

>>7975411
>And the bf is jelly
Can you? Lots of people have fantasies that either sound good when they're horny and less so when they aren't, or fantasies that just plain won't work practically in real life. If your bf is not comfortable with you flirting with and trying to initiate "sexytime" with a girl respect his wishes or break up.

I'm also bi, heavily leaning towards girls, but I've been in a committed relationship with a guy for over 5 years. He's not comfortable with me flirting with ANYONE regardless of gender and I don't because that'snot fair to him.

>>7975403

>Do bisexuals count? I have a bit of crush on my loli oneechan but she's more into the idea of sexytime than actually going there with anyone atm. Sometimes I wonder if I'm being a creep, sometimes I let her be as touchy feely as she wants.. She was my ouji this one time which made me feel like a special snowflake giggling like a tard all day...

You already sound annoying

>And the bf is jelly

Yes, because you are flirting with another person while in a fucking relationship. No passes because tehe you're the same sex.

>I grew up being bullied at school and really harshly on the net when I've posted pictures of myself. On one hand I get told I should put a bag over my face and be gangraped or people go nuts telling me I'm really pretty literally leaving hundreds of pages of comments. I never know where I stand or if it's ok to consider myself attractive.

I'm sorry about what happened to you, but that's no excuse to act like a slut.

>I also was never successful dating. I met my guy online, because none of my guy friends wanted relationships per se or were busy chasing girls who were mean to them.

So he doesn't count because you only met him online?

Also, what. You sound like you have a severe case of victim complex. Just because a guy isn't interested in you doesn't mean shit.

>I have acne, scars and stretchmarks but I do have thick thighs, a big ass, 37 inch hips but a 23 inch waist and DDs which apparently is pretty good. I would love to flirt and eat cake with some pretty girls but the bf is too shy to engage. He wants to be in on this two-cute-girls-fantasy but I got to do all the legwork....

You're stupid. You're extremely stupid. Stop.

Also, work on that self esteem. I sort of empathise since I used to question why none of my guy friends liked me, but then I figured out why - it's because we just aren't a fit romantically. Doesn't mean shit in the grand scheme.

I'm a lonely lolita, but 50% of the comm here seems to be lesbian.

pic related.

>>7975470
>because none of my guy friends wanted relationships per se or were busy chasing girls who were mean to them.
That's literally, word for word, something a "nice guy" would say, just with the sexes switched around
>guys only date bitches who treat them like shit!!! I am such a nice girl but they always go for Christie Thundertits!

>>7975502
The reverse term is "Stacy Thundercunt" actully

Are there really a lot of lesbian lolitas? That makes me really happy tbh. I've always wanted a kawaii gf to dress up with who would like my cute Japanese stuff as much as I do, but I didn't have a lot of hope because lolita didn't seem to me to be a fashion that would attract a lot of lesbians.
> Tfw you might actually get a loli gf I buy brand for and have kawaii dates at tea houses with

I'm not a lesbian but I wanted to thank op for posting the opening pic as I have gathered chiffon in that colourway but haven't worn it yet and have seen very few coords of it. My good friend gave me the chiffon blouse that the girl on the right is wearing for my birthday recently and it makes me very happy to know they go together for sure.

Back to your questions many lolitas are lesbians and many are cute.

>>7975508
TIL

I'm a fairly well known person in my comm and I'm bisexual. Right now I'm in a relationship with a guy so everyone assumes I'm straight but I'm too scared to "come out" with them. It doesn't help that I have a terrible crush on a girl in the comm, but I couldn't follow through with it anyway since we both are in monogamous relationships. I still feel like I'm living a lie.

>>7975403
From another bisexual female in a committed relationship with a guy, please fucking stop. If he's jealous, he's obviously not okay with it. You sound so fucking stupid.

I prefer women to men and find many of the girls in my comm to be attractive, but I would never flirt with any of them because I know my boyfriend would be hurt by it. Even if we've talked about the idea of a threesome for fun, he's clearly uncomfortable with open relationships, and I can respect that. Show your boyfriend the same respect, for fucksake, or get out of the relationship and be a free range slut. I don't even mind the "slutty" stereotype of bisexuals, but the unfaithful thing just pisses me off, and it's girls like you who make people think that about us.

>>7975513
This is my dream anon but those feels when no girl is interested.

>>7975560
>Even if we've talked about the idea of a threesome for fun, he's clearly uncomfortable with open relationships, and I can respect that.
this so much

I respect and love him too much to let my inner slut out for one night, I can't imagine cheating on him for this one stupid fantasy. The people who can't handle it shouldn't be in a relationship, you also can't avoid that there's 50% chance that the jealous partner is a possessive cunt and the other 50% is that they're worried about something serious but have a low self-esteem. Like this anon said, plz staph

>>7975629

>plz staph

Will innoculate with staph aureus stat.

>i'm so sorry i had to

>>7975629
>>7975560
Do we really have to wonder why people think bi girls are sluts? People like >>7975403 give a lot of evidence that it's true. Fuck.

>>7975502
I literally lived with one guy who kept telling me he loved me and going to make a move then pulling away with some shit about how I am the only one will truly love him so he doesn't want to risk losing me if we broke up/he needs to 'punish himself' with bitches and I'm 'too nice'. I cooked his dinner and did his laundry whilst he banged all of my friends. These girls would physically abuse him and literally sit around all day pointing out what they wanted him to buy them. Yes, we were as dumb as eachother.

>>7975406
>>7975419
>>7975460
>>7975470
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>>7975646

You're all making the assumption we are strictly monogamous and I don't care about his feelings. I understand the stigma attached to bisexuality is making you more touchy about it.

Just to be clear I met my first and only bf at the age of 17. We didn't sleep together until I turned 20 and have been together another 3 years since then.

When i said he was 'jelly' it was more of a joke. He wishes he could approach women. He is fine with me flirting with girls and tries to get me to do it by proxy (like sending pics) but I have to explain to him strong advances from a total stranger (these are girl friends he barely knows) can be intimidating and the girl might not appreciate the fact he is only into her from what he has seen.

I want my boyfriend to feel confident and attractive. Just because I might be insecure doesn't mean I can expect him to never find anyone more attractive than me. He was a virgin until 24 and falls apart if a woman talks to him. When he told me a woman tried to chat him up at the pub and link arms with him (and he didn't bottle it) I had to smile for him because he felt noticed, desirable and thought it was kind of cute.

We check girls out together all the time. Not everyone is monogamous, but we are in a loving, committed relationship. We're completely obsessed with and inextricably attached to eachother, sensitive to the other's feelings and well, we both like boobies.

Nicholael and PetitePasserine are my favorite lesbians for Jfash and Lolita. They don't do lolita very much anymore but their older pictures are so cute. Pic related.

There are four or five in my comm. All have really nice wardrobes and well dressed. Two of them are engaged to each other and the rest date other girls who aren't into lolita.

>>7975691

Aww..Imma go look them up

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>>7975336
snowflake detected

>>7975639
you're cute let's bang
>>7975691
you made me look and it is indeed adorable

>>7975329
My comm is pretty small but there are at least four of us.

I have a few bisexual(?) Girls in my comm. I think the cutest ones in my group are straight and taken and I'm crushing on one awkward cutie but I've never dated a girl before and she and I don't live in the same city and its hard to commute outside of meets so it'd be a pretty boring relationship.

>>7975663
What the fuck did you expect people to assume when you ramble on about how you couldn't find people to date you so you had to go online, say that your boyfriend is jealous when you flirt with other girls with no hint that you're joking, and refer to getting another girl involved with you two as a "fantasy"? All of that seems to imply that you two haven't involved another girl and that he wouldn't actually be happy with it outside of theory.

Instead of rambling about being bullied and shit, you should have clarified that if you didn't expect people to infer what they can from the words you wrote. Thanks for clearing it up, though, glad you're not a cheating cunt. And no one cares about your spergy boyfriend, your insecurities, and how weirdly obsessed you are with each other, learn to convey important information if you don't want people to misunderstand you.

> tfw I got my girlfriend into lolita by lending her pieces of my wardrobe and she makes a much cuter loli than me

But at least we have the same measurements and shoe sizes so it's double the wardrobes/coord pieces now that she's into it

I am a bisexual lolita. I know of a few lesbians/bisexuals (including filleporcelaine, her girlfriend is also in some of her videos, Mila and siriusc, nicholael and her gf, etc). Generally, alternative fashion and niche groups seem to attract more LGBT people than others movements, there seem to be a ton of them.

>tfw still no lolita gf
why live

a-any cute gay lolitas in the UK? I'm too much of a coward to go to a meet up anyway..

>>7975663
You sound like you are still 17.

>>7975884

Because I'm secure in my relationship, open and not possessive?

I don't understand how monogamous people who claim to care about their partners are so quick to drop them for someone else and it makes it ok simply because they broke it off. People are not trump cards. You can't look at whose stats are better then decide to cut all ties with one person because you can't bear the strain of supporting both emotionally/financially etc At the same time I accept that I cannot have it all.

One day I will be jealous, I will be hurt, but that happens. I've been through more than most in a short amount of time; I'm really not being naïve about this, nor am I incapable of handling pain. He'll be fine; I'd only ever bring someone home if it was what he wanted.

>>7975868
w-where in the uk anon

>>7975979
p-please be near London..
>they are never near London

>>7975968
you sound like you're 17 because you're writing paragraphs and paragraphs about yourself on an anonymous board where no one actually gives a shit, they just want to insult you. move on already

Mila and Siriusc are dating but I admit they are less cute than Nicholael and PetitePasserine who are the cutest lesbians I ever saw.

I think a lot of bisexuals use their bisexuality as a justification for staying in unsatisfying relationships. Or they're just naturally polygamous people but I think that is a smaller % of the population (who is both inclined, and satisfied with that.)

As a monogamous bisexy in a happy relationship, lemme let you in on a little secret: When you are a happily monogamous bisexual person, you aren't any more tempted by the gender you aren't currently fucking than a straight person is tempted by members of the opposite sex that they are not currently fucking. Maybe you can't even think of anyone else in a sexual way. Or maybe you look or fantasize but would never want to touch.

But you're not sitting there like "oh god I just need dick/pussy!" Would people say a straight woman is at a high cheating risk because she likes both circumcised and uncircumcised dick and you can't be with both at once in a monogamous relationship?

If you find yourself that troubled for it, either look into being poly or look into ending the clearly unsatisfying relationship you're currently in (or in coming fully out of the closet if that's really what's going on with you.) - From a bisexual who's been there in my much less confident days

>>7975988
ech kinda near london? norwich

>>7975743

Glad that's cleared up. I didn't think people would assume the worst and that I would gleefully brag about deliberately hurting him. Then again you can only make assumptions on the net. Most people are assumed to be straight and monogamous unless you say otherwise.

I blame autism

Anyway, on the topic of assumptions, how would one go about finding a cute lesbian loli to eat cake with? I would be afraid of weirding her out if she turned out to be straight and this hypothetical girl would probably be the same, right? Even if she wasn't I wouldn't like to come across as predatory either. Girl on girl relationships are still seen as 'raunchy' and lolita fashion is already unfairly associated with fetishism. I worry if I tried to bring the topic of sexuality up at a meetup IRL this would make people uncomfortable, appear 'immodest', or like I only got into lolita to prey on pretty girls. Talking about this sort of thing on 4chan isn't the same.

>>7975988

I'm in London

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>>7976041
o-oh maybe I'll have to actually leave my house sometime..

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>>7976041
>>7976055

SNORE
post your emails faggots

>>7975663
oh so ur one of those bisexuals who thinks annoying people with ogling is totes okay cause one of us a chick! nah then were just annoyed by that creepy bro and his aspie gf

ya u definitely give bisexuals a bad name among lesbians

>>7976029

I've never really been comfortable with the idea of following societal norms blindly. Social discourse is complex and weird. I have aspergers syndrome and have been trying to work *people* out for a long time.

I don't even understand lesbianism.

I believe alot of people are in the closet or in denial as you say but genuinely I am the happiest I have ever been in my life with this guy. It's natural for his eyes to wander and I don't see myself as any different as I like women too. At the end of the day we both know we're loved. I don't think he can cope with a full blown poly relationship due to his general awkwardness around women and being very introverted. And I'm not comfortable with using a girl just for sexual purposes so who knows where it'll lead.

Also he's still trying to wrap his head around lolita as a thing lol. I think this is less of an issue with women.

Sorry for long replies but now I worry if I don't include all the context people will completely misread me as had already happened. Going away now..,

>>7976037
not gonna lie anon, u have very low odds of not being perceived as creepy. not because ur a female loli making a move on another female loli.

but because being approached for threesomes is one of the most irritating parts of being a non-hetero woman. have you ever noticed how many bisexual and lesbian women on okcupid have a "no couples!" or "no 3somes!" disclaimer? and being bait and switched is even worse. you think you're getting along with some cute girl and suddenly her mouthbreathing bf pops up. no thanks.

i wish you luck, but most of us could find our own cock if that was what we wanted. if we want you, we want you not you + your socially awkward bf.

I've always wanted a lolita girlfriend but I'm always attracted to stud/stem girls and want to be the feminine one in the relationship. Sometimes it's hard for me to see myself falling for someone just as feminine as me, because sometimes the lines of friendship/relationship are blurry to me
>tfw life goals or wife goals

>>7976072
It's cool, anon. I get it. I'm long winded myself. My post was made prior to reading that you are not monogamous. As that was one of my suggestions lol, I see no problem with your relationship approach. Good luck with finding a potential lolita gf.

>>7976062

No I said the exact opposite. I'm scared of bringing it up or asking someone out in case I freak them out. And as I said before they might be made uncomfortable even if they were lesbian or bi. I've been ogled, groped and assaulted too many times so I don't want to make another girl feel preyed on. I see beautiful women on the train alot but I don't want to blatantly stare and make her uncomfortable.

>>7976013
This. Though open relationships are kinda a sign of immaturity themselves. Funny how I stopped seeing that after college

>>7976079

This is what I tried to explain to my bf. I don't want my attractive friend to feel like she's just being used for a fetish object. You can't just go up to a girl and say 'my bf wants to fuck you with me, do you want to come over and do that?' I don't want her to think our entire friendship was bait and switch.

As a bisexual I have the privilege of hiding amongst the 'normal people' lesbians still get seen as porn material which is unfair.

>>7976037
Have you actually talked to any lolitas? If you get to know someone, you get comfortable talking about normal things, including relationships, and wanting to date. It isnt 'raunchy' to be a lesbian, and talking about sexuality to random people is weird, but mentioning to a friend is not.

Also no one things a girl is into lolita to get girls, so you wont be seen as a creep. Only guys are because they tend to have ulterior motives.

That being said, you arent actually that well versed in poly stuff and you should really just stop before you get hurt, especially since you understand that your boyfriend wont be into one if you actually progressed. You and him have this idea of the 'unicorn', being that person who will magically want to fuck you and him in a 3some and be with you both. While a triad can happen, it is uncommon and not something you actually go for.

I only know of one, she's my comm's group leader(26ish) and is dating a 40 yr old.

>>7976029
I'm bi-sexual and dating a guy. I've only had 2 relationships, both long term and I'm not one for casual sex. I haven't gotten a chance to date a girl for a couple reasons:
a)when I was single for a bit I lived in a shitty town full of white trash hipsters where the only lesbians were younger than me and honestly not attractive at all.
b)I have no interest in dating outside of my boyfriend. If we broke up I'd probably try to find a girl to date even if I'm a bit choosier with women(so far it's been more sexual and less romantic feelings, but I don't really click with any women here in the first place, and very few are my type here especially personality wise.

I also have no intentions or needs to fuck a girl while with my boyfriend unless you want to count porn into this. My boyfriend and I talked about a hypothetical threesome, we'd both be interested hypothetically, but practically there's too much margin of error in terms of feelings on both sides and just the iffyness of finding someone not crazy and likely to make drama+we'd both find attractive+is definitely clean. I'm not super jealous, but I'd probably be angry if he kissed/fucked with his dick said hypothetical girl, and I'd also feel super awkward ion the first place given I don't like casual sex and I'm not actually into being poly/open while in a relationship. So probably not something that would actually happen anytime soon, especially since neither of us are unhappy with the sex apart from general life stuff in the way.

It really bothers me when other bi-sexuals don't want to be monogamous, but don't bother finding someone who's into poly/open stuff.
It bothers me even more when people like>>7976072
say there's no possible way for people to be attracted to both sexes because that's not the way that they think and feel for themselves. "I don't understand therefore it's not a thing"

I'm bi, and my ex girlfriend kind of got me into lolita. We were both cgl regulars for cosplay, and she started talking about getting into lolita... She ended up buying herself a Bodyline dress, and I got myself a great Taobao dress to dress up with her. We ended up breaking up shortly after - she doesn't seem to be into the fashion anymore and is strictly cosplay now, but I've almost entirely given up cosplay for lolita now. So I have her to thank for all of my new lolita friends!

Dating a dude cosplayer now who is totally supportive of my hobbies, and it's a much healthier relationship than mine and hers was. If something ever happens between us though I could easily see myself dating a lolita, or just a girl interested in the fashion... Not that I hope anything bad happens, I love my bf and wouldn't leave him for anything so shallow, it is just a small fantasy I've had.

I'm bisexual but in a relationship with a guy...I'm out in the comm (mostly because I'm out everywhere--work, school, whatever) but also don't make it really incredibly awkward; most of the girls are straight and/or too young and y'know boundaries.

Boyfriend would, oddly enough, not mind if I were to get close to another woman in the girlfriend capacity and even odder not for 3somes either (we've had the discussion in the past), but I haven't really felt the need to.
I think this stems from our age and how long we've been together though.

Sadly, I've had one or two people (can't confirm their identity for sure, anonymous but I know they know me from lolita) contact me with really inappropriate stuff. It's pretty clear I'm monogomous, so...it's not only annoying but creepy.

>>7976082
Ouji girlfriend? I bet that'd be super cute.

As for the rest of you that this applies to: I hope you find a kawaii lolita gf and you're happy and frilly together!

>>7976086

Thanks anon. The right girl for both of us will come along when she comes along.

>>7976106
I'm relieved to see you are thinking a lot more about this than most 3some seekers. It's a tough subject but my best advice is:

- If you're gonna seek out people in person, specifically for this idea, you're probably gonna need to work your bf up to being able to come alone. It's much less bait and switchy if you meet the whole couple first. Then you can make sure there's mutual attraction between all parties involved. Because just because she's attracted to you doesn't mean she will share your taste in men.

- If you have interest in a specific friend, and are really against the risk of making her uncomfortable or the relationship going south, I would advise against directly propositioning her. However, this is the kind of thing you could bring up if she brings it up (I have had friends do that before, like "man I'd be really interested in trying a 3some with someone I trust.) Or you could ask her about the general topic (ever wondered about 3somes?) if you have a relationship where you openly discuss dating and sex. Lol you can even get middle school with it and mention that you and your bf have discussed it and you're considering but not sure. See how she reacts. If she seems super interested or receptive, then maybe you discuss it. If not, give it up. It's kind of a passive approach and maybe not everyone would agree. But I think it runs much less risk of making things awkward or making anyone feel preyed upon, as explicit sexual requests can in most cases.

- If she doesn't have to be lolita, OKCupid or other dating or sex sites. Avoid the women with disclaimers that they don't want 3somes, seek out the women who state that they are interested in that. That way nobody feels predatory or preyed upon.

>>7976097
>Though open relationships are kinda a sign of immaturity themselves
Not that anon, but I disagree. I think it takes a lot of maturity to actually pull off that kind of relationship without getting anyone hurt in the process.

>>7976224
Not that anon, but I do think that open relationships are immature when both don't settle down to talk about it when one of them is obviously uncomfortable (or being pressured). It just plain looks like they're not satisfied enough with just one person they need duh fuk else where.
Although, if both are into this kind of thing it's not my business anymore.

>>7976037
Id be up for it if your bf was put of the picture...

>>7975329
beetlejuiceuuu beetlejuiceuuuu beetlejuiceuuuu

>>7975336
Tell us these oh so desirable measurements, snowflake-chan.

Speaking as a guy, try not to write off men entirely. You could have just not met the right one yet.

>>7976288
At least try.

>>7976107
Only time I was in a triad it fucking sucked and fell apart shortly, still can't trust either one.

>>7976285
5'8" 32-20-32

>>7976062
Alright ladies. Calm the fuck down. You're being cruel to her, stop it and have some empathy.

>>7976302
>empathy
>4chan

pick one

>>7975336
so somebody has said something along the lines of

your body looks good, you have an ugly face

lets get the ruler out to make sure this body is attractive?

>>7975552
No reason to come out to anyone. Coming out is IMO really attention seeking and like ~~look at me I'm so special everyone has to know things about me that make me unique~~
I'm bi but I see no reason to tell anyone.

Does anyone remember the homolitas tumblr? I was asked to be an admin but she never got back to me. I'm not on tumblr as much anymore but I still have the lolitadate URL saved, I was going to try to make jfashion dating blog and then I realized that it would probanly miss the mark, but I'm too attached to the idea to give it up.

>>7976312
I think if you're going to come out, it should be subtle like "oh yeah my ex-girlfriend~"

Do you seriously think women are a replacement for men?

>>7976097
Every person I have ever known who did an open relationship, it ended terribly. My best friend is currently going through a divorce after her 'open relationship' ended with the other woman getting pregnant and her husband deciding he wanted to marry her instead. She's now sleeping on my couch with all of her belongs in a few plastic containers by my front door because she can't afford anything else.

Y'all keep right on trucking with your speshul snowflake relationships. If sleeping with other people is what you need to do to satisfy your sex drive because your SO just doesn't cut it for you, then I personally think you need to reevalutate shit, but keep on trucking.

Loli here with a female lean who has a BF that she intends to marry. Chicks are cute, but I'm satisfied with the person I have.

You'll end up regretting this poly shit. I've never met someone who didn't in the end.

>>7976311
Nah, nobody has ever called me ugly. I think I'm hot in face and body. But as far as how others would view me. At worst, I'd be a butterface. Few would say that my body is gross. But that's not why I know my measurements/the percentages. It's because I model and those are a valuable asset.

>>7975663
>Just to be clear I met my first and only bf at the age of 17. We didn't sleep together until I turned 20 and have been together another 3 years since then.

holy fuck that poor bastard

>>7976348
he was getting it elsewhere

>>7976326
Yes, or just in a passing comment to explain a story. Not "IM GAY EVERYONE!!!"
To me it is an instant turn off because it shows that a person is really attention getting and needy.
I have met a mtf transgender once and she introduced herself as "hello, I'm x, I'm transgendered". This is not a good thing to do.

>>7976381
I thought the whole point of transgender as to pass as the non-biological sex. doesn't announcing it sort of defeat the object?

I'm a bisexual lolita and I'm honestly just so super awkward whenever I try to talk to girls I like. I can never pick up if someone's actually romantically/sexually interested in me that way because the girls I know always compliment each other and are very cuddly in general. Does anyone else have this problem?

>girls claiming to be "bisexual" abound
>almost all dating exclusively men, degree of "bisexuality" is just saying you have a crush on another girl

>tfw shy submissive lesbian who loves lolita but wants to be boystyle but can't coord worth shit

I really need one of those storybook relationships where my confident lolita girlfriend just makes a boystyle coord for me to match her coord and we look kawaii as fuck.

>>7976428
difficult to get a variety when you have no access to it
I also don't do short flings so all of my 2 relationships have lasted 2+ years
I was single for about 2 months and my area has no lesbians who aren't emo trash, fat, and 17

>>7976428
"Bisexual" is just a really roundabout way that she's down for a 3-way.

She's a keeper, go for it m8

>>7976428
My last relationship was with a girl until she cheated on me. Go eat a dick.

>>7976224
>without getting anyone hurt in the process
That's the thing, that very rarely happens. At least not in a single poly relationship I've ever seen.

>>7976401
Same. I'm totally clueless when it comes to recognizing if someone's interested unless they come out and say it.

>>7976456
Oh, you too? The two girls I dated were clingy, obsessive, the one didn't take her medication like she was supposed to and was prone to calling me in the middle of the night talking about how she's afraid of sex with men and college. The other became obsessed with Homestuck to the point of even typing like the characters and talking like them, wanted me to pay for our hotel at Otakon entirely and then ditch me for the whole thing to meet up with other HS. I'm with a guy now, but it makes me feel like any girl I date will be some crazy, obsessive bitch..

>>7976468
Honestly, there seems to be a higher proportion of crazy bitches in the girls who like girls category than there is in the general population, especially with femmes. Luckily I'm more into soft butch ladies (the ones who still actually look like girls), they're much more stable.

>>7976466
>>7976401
Yeah trying to pick up/date girls is no walk in the park.
Maybe you'll have a bit more sympathy for straight guys now.

>>7976428
It's a lot easier finding a guy to date than it is a woman, so yeah, a lot of bisexual women will have more experience with men. Straight people still make up the majority of the population.

>>7976472
Thing is, the one who feared sex with men and college was very much butch. She had tattoos and was obsessed with never looking feminine, was very into cars and wanted a career with working on them, but never actually had the effort. Both girls were virgins, feared sex with this loathing passion, but were perfectly fine and willing to doing yaoi 18+ role plays with strangers on Tumblr or MSN messenger. I got told that I was jealous, but it wasn't that. It was honestly hurtful to be dating someone who instigated the relationship with me (on both accounts), yet never made me feel as if I was attractive or wanted after they claimed me as a girlfriend. Yet.. they were still prone to getting jealous if a guy was hitting on me or if another girl hugged me.

>>7976477
honestly, the majority of both men and women ive dated have been clingy crazy bitches

>>7976472
Fucking seriously. I've only ever been with one girl, she was bisexual (as am I), and she was a fucking nightmare. She not only lied to me about being single, but after her boyfriend started threatening to put me in the hospital and I told her not to fucking contact me anymore, she continued texting me (after I blocked her) for months begging me for another chance, telling me she loved me, then backing up and saying it could just be sex, anything to get her way, really. It was overall a really terrible experience. I've been in committed relationships with two men since, so I haven't had the chance to give another girl a try.

>>7975639
Kek, love me some MRSA

>>7976489
She was also extremely feminine as well as a cosplayer and lolita. I dunno, I've dated some clingy men, too, but she takes the cake, easily. If I'm ever single again, I'd probably want to date another girl, but I think that experience would stay in the back of my mind.

>>7976489
>>7976496
Whoa, did you get a restraining order? What made her finally stop?

>>7976496
Same. I'm with a guy, happy, and he knows I don't hit on others or having this longing, dying inside desire to be with a girl. Would it be nice to try again if I'm ever single? Possibly, but those two have really stuck in my mind and I wish there were a place like nocrazybitches.com to find sensible, Bi or Lesbian women.

>>7976500
I finally changed phone numbers, and around that time, she found out I was seeing someone else. She made a dummy facebook and sent me one final message saying something like "I knew this would happen, I could have made you so happy", and then she just stopped. Grapevine tells me she's with some girl much younger than her now and freaks out anytime they have to be apart for more than a day. What happened sucked, but I'm so glad it wasn't worse, as in either staying with her, her boyfriend killing me, or her kidnapping me or some shit.

>>7976505
I would even PAY for a dating website like that. Bitches be crazy. The last girl I dated was pretty much emotionally using me when she felt like it (aka doing everything that would constitute as a relationship but refuse to call me her girlfriend), then flipped a shit on me when I told her I wasn't okay with it.

>>7976037
You talk too much.

>>7976505
>I wish there were a place like nocrazybitches.com

I kinda want to make it happen because my bi friend always end up crying to me whenever I find out their partner's been cheating and the % is sickening
I mostly want to get rid of my crying bi friend

>>7976505
I would be all over that in like 10 seconds.

>>7976510
That's how Homestuck bitch was, in a weird, opposite way. She called me her girlfriend, but would never kiss me, hug me, hold my hand, ate McDonald's over the food I'd prepare (she worked here for five years and now works as a grocery florist), sleep with me, or really acknowledge anything that I did. I was pretty much playing housewife to someone who didn't care, but insisted that they did in front of company. She only ever asked things of me like to buy her these hundred dollar Akatsuki pajamas off of eBay, pay for the Otakon hotel so she could only use the room to change and ditch me for Homestucks, pay for her badge, pay for her Rikku cosplay, etc. She used to say I was the Ivy to her Harley..

>>7976335
I know one open relationship that seems fine but yeah all the others have ended horribly. It's usually just excuses for histrionics to sleep around

>>7976522
Agreed, you have to be a rare case dating a rare case and only sleeping with other rare cases for it to work. I managed it once.
I know a large group of polys, mostly all trans/gendernonbinary, and it's all just a huge drama clusterfuck. I don't know who they think they are kidding.

>>7975646
>One person gives a lot of evidence
>Sure, that makes sense.

>>7976429
Why hello there

>>7976480
That's so weird because my girlfriend/ex/current is the same way with the rp but no sex thing

>>7976568
I don't really understand it myself. They fear sex, but they're perfectly fine with pretending to be an underaged boy online and do role play sex with other girls pretending to be underaged, fag boys.. Yaoi is just cringeworthy for me.

>>7976428
A lot of girls I find have trouble committing to a relationship with a girl. It is easy to find a girl to fuck as a female, hard to find one who will date you, especially in the 20s where people are out to have fun. Being bi makes it a bit harder, there is some people who are threatened by the fact that a girl is into guys as well. Lesbians fear that a bisexual will cheat on them with a guy, even though frankly lesbians have a lot of open relationships because they want to not be committed either, so its the same shit.

>>7976595
This, coupled with the stigma of being Bi all thanks to the fake ones who did it for attention from men and warped the image. I feel pigeonholed into a place where I obviously don't want to shout what I am and be like LOOK AT ME!1!!1!, yet any flirting is laughed off as me being a supportive female friend. I've been assuming everyone is straight unless they bother to state otherwise, because I just can't read people anymore.

>>7976448
I was talking about the people in this thread

>>7975855
I'm sure there's one out there! And if not, convert someone.

>>7975329
>lesbian lolita
>gf and I hope to move in together soon
>tfw both fit burando
>tfw we'll have a huge closet
>tfw super cute girly decor
>tfw drink tea and do weeb shit all the time
I can't wait gulls

>>7976645
All of my support, anon.

I have lolita pictures on my tinder and ok cupid profiles. One picture of me with my natural hair because it's a pixie and it would probably be shocking to meet in person without having seen it... but most of the people that match me have an interest in lolita atleast, though I wish I could find another girl doing the same thing as me..

>>7976662

Out of curiosity, what style of lolita do you wear? I've considered doing that, but I'm afraid I might attract fetishists.

>>7976664
In my pictures I'm wearing ouji with a long wig and OTT classic, then a pic at a meetup wearing classic sweet. I'm not that concerned about attracting female fetishists, and I just ignore all dudes that view my profile. Only swipe right on girls haha

>>7976645
Anon, you are living the dream. Good luck to you and your girlfriend!

>>7976674

Ahhh that's a good plan!

I identified as bi on my profile, but in the six months I've been on there, I've maybe gotten two girls who fell off the face of the earth after a few messages.

>>7976477
>Won't someone think of the men who have way more women to choose from than lesbians?!

>>7976428
>Bisexual
>sexually attracted to both sexes
>faulting them for dating one of those two sexes
Like others have said it's a hell of a lot easier to find a heterosexual relationship than a homosexual one, but also what business is it of yours how "true" they are as a bisexual? Maybe the extent of their bisexual experience does only extend to crushes and fantasies, who made you the Bi-police? People have varying degrees of attraction towards one sex or another.

>>7976561
Don't do this to my heart, anon.

>bisexual lolita
>attracted mainly to androgynous/slightly butch looking girls
>hear about girls wanting a cute loli GF to share dresses with and all you want is Annie Lennox
>tfw even in a group of "outcasts", you're still even more of an "outcast"

>>7976700
>men
>getting to choose

Not only is that wrong but it's not even related to what anyones been talking about. They were complaining about how hard it is to approach somebody and how difficult it is to pick up and interpret signs that they're even interested.

You know, what men have to deal with all the time. Was hoping that having to experience the pressure and stress of being the approacher instead of being the approachee would give you some insight and sympathy, but that was clearly too much to expect. Clearly it's much easier to just dismiss all men as whiny and think that lesbians/bi women alone are the only people who ever have to deal with those things.

>>7976705
To be honest, that person just sounded like one of those insecure holier than thous who is either sheltered and assumes it's oh so easy to just find the perfect girl by virtue that you like them, or is just looking for something to cunt about as per typical seagull. It sounds like something this lesbian I knew in high school would do where if any girl claimed to be bi or lesbian and didn't have a girlfriend at the time, she cried fraud and made it all about what a true, glorious daughter of Sappho she was. Not at all surprised that her girlfriend just looks like a butch version of herself.

>>7976728
Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaaaahmbulance

>>7976732
What a compelling and mature argument.

And a particularly ironic one since you were the ones to start the whinning in the first place.

>>7976728
>Yeah trying to pick up/date girls is no walk in the park.
>Maybe you'll have a bit more sympathy for straight guys now.

Seriously, a guy whining about how hard it is to interpret whether a woman is into them and how bisexuals/lesbians should feel bad for them when bisexuals/lesbians have to deal with alienating women completely if they're not into women.

>>7976739
>alienating women completely if they're not into women.

Lolthis. It's so much fun having that awkward as fuck realization, even when you were being subtle, and then you get labelled as that "crazy omfg dyke ew she hit on me" because some sheltered, rich White girl never dealt with anything different. You could just say, "No, thanks." instead of being a shitlord.

>>7976742
And god help you if it's a girl in your comm.

Pretty sure I'm hella gay, pretty sure I'm hella trapped in a shitty relationship with a man woohoo

>>7976745
Pretty sure you can just hella fuck off and leave his shitty ass in the dust, and you'll be hella happy

>>7976742
the exact same thing can be said for guys except changing "dyke" to "creep"

>>7976744
>"Anon, you can't be into girls, you're full of shit. Asians don't have lesbians."
>Four years of this

Not a lolita, but a lesbian cosplayer. Can I still join in this thread? I've met quite a few bisexual/lesbian cosplayers before, but a lot of them tend to be underage, immature or kind of crazy.

Doesn't help anything that I'm really shy around girls and really have no idea how to flirt or even approach women, even if I know they're gay. Spent most of my teens as an insecure shut in.

>>7976748
I didn't say that it couldn't. I'm not the other anon that you were arguing with, so I don't know why you're quoting me. I'm talking to them, not you.

>>7976748
Yes because odds are a guy is going to flirt with a girl that doesn't like dick instead of a girl flirting with a girl that doesn't like vagina.

>>7976477
Uhm... No. Straight men have it much easier because straight women are the majority. Lesbian/bi women have to pray the person whe are interested in wants to date a woman in the first place (and sometimes it's hard to tell/pick up the courage to ask because there are lots of bigots around) *and* we get all the problems everyone else has when it comes to dating.

>>7976718
Ouji/kodona girlfriend?

>>7975470
You're replying to an obvious troll. Goddamn it, /cgl/ - if the person sounds too oblivious to exist, they probably are.

>>7975988
>please be in London (Ontario)
It's happened once.

>>7976750
it's people being racist
it depends on the type of asian, if you're a kawaii type asian (japanese) they're fine with it.

but if you're
one of those dirty types of asians
korean, chinese or filipino...then no

>>7976751
That feel. I get so flustered around girls that are my type. Tall, androgynous.. I literally can't speak to them and just try to hide behind my friends.

>pic related is ideal type

>>7976751
I sympathize. I had a crush on my first best friend when I was 12 and it just sort of got worse from there. I never told her, even after she moved. I was too scared after she made a big deal about being grossed out by lesbians, yet she was perfectly fine with gay men and yaoi. A lot of cosplayers or general "nerds" I knew in high school were like this, the female ones. I didn't make it a point to hit on any girls during high school, because didn't want to face >>7976742 stigma and because honestly? Nobody was really attractive to me after the best friend moved away. I lost my first kiss, both innocent lip to lip and tongue, to the best friend's older sister at a slumber party when she dove onto my lap after I said I hadn't kissed anyone before. She was 18, I was 14. The policing, upperclassmen weeaboo lesbian only made shit worse.

>>7976748
Dude are you serious. Really. Like >7976742 said, we are easily labeled as "crazy dykes" even for simply asking. Straight guys get labeled as creeps if *surprise!* they act like one, ie have no respect for personal boundaries/are too insistent/can't take no for an answer. Don't fucking tell me that's the same thing.

>>7976766
I couldn't begin to imagine how shitty it would have been if people in high school or middle school knew. Some girls were very vocal about that and you saw the stigma in action in the locker room when suddenly everyone acted like she was going to rape you for being in your underwear. It's like, get a fucking grip.

>>7976745
Leave his ass and find a nice girlfriend. I've been there anon, you'll definitely feel better.

>>7976764
..Oh, anon.. I need to.. go take a shower..

>>7976755
>>7976757
You cry and cry but I'll just keep seeing it as people who are so used to finding a relationship being a simple matter of saying "yes" to the most appealing person who offers whining about actually having to put in some shred of effort to find and get what they want.

>cute girl at con
>she's a lesbian
>mfw

>>7976771
It's terrible because I'm leaning towards androgynous myself so it's like.. do I want to be the kawaii girlfriend or just give up and be the dude to a kawaii girlfriend?

>>7976764
>tfw into androgynous/butch girls
>tfw I'm a guy
>tfw I'm not even a feminine looking guy

>>7976782
..are you me.
I cut my hair to Marie Kanker style recently and I've been like.. should I be a dude to a Nazz or be a dominant yet feminine at times girl to an Edd?

>>7976783
Androgynous /cgl/ battle?

>>7976788
You're going to win; I think I have maybe two pictures that qualify. The rest are short hair but distinctly feminine.

>>7976297
When you say less than 1% of the population has similar measurements, do you mean country-wise or worldwide? Because those don't really sound like impossible measurements.

>>7976604
>>7976705
I know this feel all too well.
Sure, let's all campaign for everyone's right to visibility, except bi people who are just selfish or trying for attention anyway, right? Fml, it's like if you don't talk about scoring sweet vajoo every minute then you must be cast out from the lgbt inner sanctum.

>>7976783
I look butch as fuck and I'm attracted to regular guys. Feminine guys are pretty to look at but I can't see myself in a relationship with one, not to mention it wouldn't feel right if my boyfriend was prettier than me. I've met quite a few girls like me who happen to be straight as well.

We're rare but do exist.

>>7976788
>tfw Akira was having a two day event at BTSSB NYC
>tfw too ugly and know you'll only embarrass yourself

>>7976812
In the US, this is what my agency tells me. My height is already not the norm and my waist is unusually small for that height, not just in general, but height + waist.

>>7976822
I saw pictures of her doing coupley photos with lolitas and just died a little inside out of envy.

My common is pretty much all lesbians, good fashion sense and looks all round.
As appealing as the twinning rori gf dream is though, dating within your comm just makes me think of how you shouldn't "shit where you eat". With the appetite of drama even online, it would only be a risk with taking if you somehow knew you'd be set for a perfect and forever sort of romance.

>>7976845
>how you shouldn't "shit where you eat"

Why is this so hilarious to me

>>7976082

Lesbian lolita here and I keep trying to get my gf to wear ouji. She's very androgynous leaning towards butch, which is my big thing. Ouji is just so attractive! I feel like such a weeb since I netted an Asian gf, but that's what I'm attracted to.

I have a good lolita friend who is bi, though. We've never dated or anything, but I don't know other lesbian or bi girls if there are any in our com.

>>7976845
Just adding that I'm not hating on people that date in their comm. Also typos.
>>7976848
Because it sounds like buttstuff?

>>7976855
No, I think it's because I imagined lolitas in their nice dresses literally going to take dumps a small walk away from the tea and cake. And, with nobody caring because it's ~*common practice*~ or something.

>>7976575
It males me kind of sad... She's really into it but I'm afraid shell leave me for someone who is good at that shit (again )
I had a yaoi faze and it was so fucking cringeworthy it disgusts me now

>>7976645
Happy for you!!!

>>7976834
I would've told all my normalfag friends she was my new gf. But in all seriousness, I'm glad I didn't go. I wouldn't be able to handle Akira holding my hand while she was down on one knee.

>>7976709
We should talk sometime~ Do you have a Kik, line, WhatsApp, etc?

>>7976870
No lie, I probably would have fainted.

>>7976870
Oh look its me. I did practically melt into goo at this point (//u//)

>>7976764

>>7976873
>We should talk sometime~ Do you have a Kik, line, WhatsApp, etc?

beta

don't text or ask for skype
call that bitch and invite her out

whats that sort of kinda date hang out bullshit kids do

>>7976873
Sorry, anon. I don't have any of those. Trying to gain more confidence in myself though and get out there to be the ouji I know I can be so I'll definitely use this as motivation.

>>7976885
Get a clue and leave /cgl/ already.

>>7976886
Okay I wish you the best of luck!! If you ever wanna talk just let me know, I'm on mobile rn but I have an ouji folder somewhere on my old computer

>>7976891
Thank you, anon! Hope we run into each other again in the future.

>>7976859
That is actually pretty funny. I'm sure I've read something about how many of the aristocracies in Versailles possibly did their business in corners of rooms and behind the curtains etc.

seconding all the shit about 'yaoi rpers'. My ex (much older than I was) was a bi girl and obsessed with playing a super kawaii underaged uke. Turned out she had a rape fetish and loved to be 'taken advantage of' -- which just translated to the fact that only one of us was ever going to get off in the relationship.

She was unstable as fuck and turned out to be physically/emotionally abusive. Never, ever dating a person like that again.

Worst thing is, I still roleplay, but I haven't watched anime since our breakup, just read some visual novels and manga.

>>7976912
I wish I had actually known what the fuck was the deal with either of my ex girlfriends with all of that yaoi role play shit. They were just terrified of sex and men in general, yet okay with doing.. well, that shit online. They didn't have rape fetishes/kinks and just wouldn't touch me or let me kiss/hug/hold hands/do anything sexual with them. I got the same story from both of them about how oh, but anon! It isn't ME having the sex! It's Dr. Frank N Furter/My Homestuck OC/Deidara!1111!!!

Just.. jesus fuck and for both of you to have been older than me with much more stable families than I had ever had and yet you're both fucked in the head, god damn it. They both still live at home and they're just so.. completely unmotivated and immature.

>>7976938
>completely unmotivated and immature.
This. The girl I was with and myself were mutual friends of an amazing cosplayer and every time it came to cosplay /I/ wasn't invited into the group, but she would always cry over her mediocre sewing skills.
>tfw I saw her at a con about 6 months ago
>ill fitting, ebay bought DC costume or something
>no binding
>shit tier wig
Feels good.

I honestly think that these people just want to be the characters. If we were ever doing anything remotely sexual she would start like... LARPing some random character and just.. ugh. I was so stupid and naive. I live in a very small down where the cosplay and lolita community is fairly close knit, so I don't really have a comm, but I can't wait to move, because I really think that I could be the cutest gf ever, even if I'm not a very experienced loli. I'd love to find some sort of senpai to just help me pick out dresses and coords, and I could take pretty photos of them... But never a weeb. Never again.

>>7976428
>be me
>in love with a lesbian for years
>meanwhile meet husband, love him too
>get hitched
>never told a soul
>eats me inside
>it never would have worked anyway
>what am I anyway

>>7975552
Same here! I'm Bisexual and relatively influential in my Comm. I'm in a LTR with my Boyfriend so people assume that i'm straight. I never felt the need to come out because my sexuality is no one's business. I recently met a girl at Rufflecon that i kinda got a crush on. She has a GF but if i weren't already in love with my BF and she were single it would be amazing to be with her.

I firmly believe that everyone develops little crushes even in committed relationships- acting on them is entirely different (unless you have an open relationship)

Personally, i'm comfortable with people thinking i'm straight when i'm with a guy and that i'm a lesbian when i'm with a girl. The fluidity of Bisexuality is rarely understood by most so unless they are close to me or i'm particularly in an educating mood- i let it go. What matters is being true to who you are and your relationship.

You're not living a lie unless you're lying to yourself. Seek after who you want to be in love with and be honest with others as much as possible. If you really want to be with her then dump your BF. If it's just a crush, that's cool. fantasize a little here and there =)

hang in there my frilly friend!

>>7977133
There are many women who i've fell for over the years but it just never worked out. Yet, i never feel like it weighs on me.

>What am I anyway

I feel like if you can say this (unless joking) then you married the wrong person. Your S.O. should fulfill you in ways no other human can. Make you want to be a better person, support you as you support them and encourage them to be the best version of themselves as well. So if out of your marriage you think "Oh shit- i never did end up with that girl"....Get out of there if you can financially afford to. if you can't, work on it....best of luck to you. Maybe deep down he is the right guy for you and you just are fixated on the past.

>>7977156
>our S.O. should fulfill you in ways no other human can. Make you want to be a better person, support you as you support them and encourage them to be the best version of themselves as well. So if out of your marriage you think "Oh shit- i never did end up with that girl"....Get out of there if you can financially afford to. if you can't, work on it....best of luck to you. Maybe deep down he is the right guy for you and you just are fixated on the past.


life isn't a fairy tale, if you hold this notion it's time to grow up

>>7976763
which kind are you again?

Hilarious how you all think you're lesbian.

There are plenty of decent guys out there who would date you but you're just having one retarded phase after another.

>>7977169
Did you skim one or two posts? A lot of these say that people are Bi, currently dating a guy, and actually have problems finding bitches who aren't nuts to date.

>>7977169
hi /r9k/

>>7977169
And I assume you are one of those "decent guys" we are neglecting right? This shitty comment isn't even r9k-tier, did you stop here on your way to Reddit or something

>>7976938
>>7976912
>wouldn't touch me or let me kiss/hug/hold hands/do anything sexual with them. I got the same story from both of them about how oh, but anon! It isn't ME having the sex! It's Dr. Frank N Furter/My Homestuck OC/Deidara!1111!!!
But that's the thing, I don't think they were really into women at all.
I've seen plenty of girls who are very obviously not into girls but do it because they're young, stupid and want to be special snowflakes.
Then they find a girlfriend and don't want to touch her or do much of anything with her but stay in a relationship because they think it's just like being best friends and don't really understand your feelings toward her.
Several months or years later you'll find her dating a man. Textbook example of this is a tumblr artist I know who had a LDR with a girl from the US. They met up and took some pictures of them cuddling, I guess as "proof" of their gayness, and several months later they both kept insisting they're just good friends and the American girl was writing poems about a guy she likes.
They roleplayed as John and Sherlock of course.

A lot of them are insecure about being girls and see a gay relationship as something "safe" because both of them are men, therefore equals who respect each other and don't have to prove anything or be worried that they'll just be seen as a piece of meat.

Little do they know how slutty and gross gay men can actually be.

>>7976912
I don't think "yaoi rpers" are like that at all, since I used to be one of them at like 17 or so. I'm 22 now, for reference.
A lot of them are just young and stupid and will calm down as they get older. Unless they're like that in their twenties, then yeah...

>>7977216
They're in their late twenties and this was within the last five years.

>>7977230
...jaysus

>>7977216
This. A lot of girls who RP smut (and quite a few who don't) are kind of enthralled by the idea of gay sex, and have the complete wrong idea about actualy gay relationships (esp. about gay men). They might project and think it's hot and kind of interesting, but when it comes down to it, they want to be with in a heterosexual relationship.

>tfw I have a friend like that
>tfw she constantly talks about having sex with girls, and "I would totally make out with you, anon"
>tfw constantly all touchy with me
>tfw she then tells me "I wish girls had dicks too!"
She's a great friend, but damn, all those mixed signals I get from her.

>>7976106
>You can't just go up to a girl and say 'my bf wants to fuck you with me, do you want to come over and do that?'

Yes you can if the person is only interested in casual sex. You should only have 3somes casually anyways. Trying to make friends with some girl to try to fuck them is shit.

>>7977237
I have several gay male friends I met over the years by pure chance. One is a real sweetie who wants to settle down with a boyfriend and live happily ever after but is well on his way to become a full-fledged master of the arcane arts. One is a slutty twink (his, factual, words), another is into tricking straight men and some really weird-ass shit.
In the end, go to /hm/ and see.

Nothing like muh chinese yaoi comics

>>7977249
He's actually tricking them?
I mean, I get that some gay guys are happy to help straight guys experiment* but tricking people sounds nasty as fuck and you should drop that fuckface from your 'friend' list.

*side anecdote; one of my friends thought he may be bi, so he went out to a gay bar, hooked up with a guy, came back the next morning and was just like 'nah I'm straight'.

>>7977249
>Nothing like muh chinese yaoi comics
>>7977249
There's no relationship like that. Yaoi relationships are idealized in any and every regard.

>>7977260
not doing it himself, but porn of straight men getting "tricked"
He's just a regular slag outside of his weird fetishes

>>7977268
Oh, like the whole 'gay for pay' thing?

>>7977273
I don't know if they're really gay or not, but the scenarios usually go something like
>haha hey dooood let's have a drink
>'straight' guy gets drunk
>gets talked into fucking
>gets fucked by gay guy
>wow that was amazing! I was gay all along!

>>7977156
he's a great guy/makes me happy, and she's been in a steady relationship, it's hard to elaborate online without tl;dr. I had to make a choice and she wasn't even really an option, it really is more like a fixated on the past issue, and I don't regret it

But explaining my sexuality is always confusing I guess

>wow what a cute girl
>"anon aren't you straight"
>I guess?
>"but anon you're married"
>I know
>?????????

>>7977181
Not that guy, but I just can't help but suspect with all these people who have been in nothing but heterosexual relationships their entire lives, but claim to be bisexual and hide behind "well I just can't find the right girl!" as an excuse for why they've never actually done anything with one, that there may be some who just want to call themselves bi to feel different or special.

>>7977174
>>7977174
>>7977181
It's just pathetic if you actually date a girl. If you sleep with one because your boyfriend finds it hot fair enough, but stop pretending you can live without men.

>>7977296
And, what of those of us who actually been in relationships with women and are now wary? The same thing could be applied to girls who become jaded over other men from a few bad exes or .. well, all of r9k.

>>7977308
>stop doing things I don't like

>>7977308
even if we were straight, we wouldn't sleep with you
give it a rest billy bob

>>7976037
> I didn't think people would assume the worst

You're on fucking 4chan dammit

>>7976072
> I've never really been comfortable with the idea of following societal norms blindly.
>I have aspergers syndrome

Special snowflake detected

>>7977313
If they've actually been in a relationship with a woman then I'm obviously not talking about them.
I know for a fact there are people in the world who will label themselves anything for the sake of feeling like a special snowflake. I'm not trying to say everyone here claiming to be bi is one of those people, but if you've never actually done or even realy triedt do anything with another women, I'm gonna think you're one of them

>>7977169
>what about the menz?
So you come to a thread about lesbian lolitas and start whining about how girls are shallow and will never date you, a man, who by definition cannot possibly be a lesbian lolita.

I get it, you're bitter and lonely, but this is not your thread. Maybe you would be more comfortable on >>>/reddit/ .

Do you go into sewing threads and whine about how no one is discussing prop making?

I guess i'm Bi?

My comm kind of molests me for fun, because i'm the 'smallest and cutest' despite being one of the more senior members. But i hate to admit it, i kinda like it.

But theres that awkward lack of social inhibitions which means they see no problem with grabbing boobs and such, and everyone is so pent up and lonely they'd sleep with anyone at the drop of a hat.

I'm 28 and i get carded more than a 14 year old with a push up bra.

>>7977399
>smallest and cutest
>groped and molested by seniors, but secretly likes it
>group of horny girls
That's some anime-ass shit right there.

>>7977399
>i'm bi because my comm molests me and i kinda like it

>>7977419
>>7977399

I'd pay hard money to watch an anime about lesbian lolitas

>>7976938
This so much. It always seemed my ex's liked my characters more then me. It always ended up with them falling all over themselves because they met a guy.

Except my fiance. We met while roleplaying, not yaoi but eventually led to that, and got to be very good friends, then more. I moved in with her and we've been together for 3 years now and neither of us are remotely interested in the D and the our love life is always awesome.

>>7976429
W-where are you from?
>please say Europe

>>7977336
Well under that logic in going to assume all male virgins are gay. Fuck off.

>>7977399
>I'm 28 and i get carded more than a 14 year old with a push up bra.
That doesn't make any sense

Also, the rest of this is cringy and fake sounding as hell. You're more likely fat and ugly rather than small and cute with the way you're telling the story.

>>7977487
>you're the ones complaining how hard it is to find a woman
>go-to insult for any male you dislike is saying they can't find a woman

lol. 3.5 billion women and not a single one is capable of an original insult no matter what the situation is.

>>7977496
That wasn't what she was saying, please learn to reading comprehension. She was making a parallel between bi women supposedly not actually being attracted to women if they've never been with one despite talking a big game and virgin males who do the same thing, yet we just accept that they're straight. You're a fucking moron.

>>7977509
She wasn't even doing that either. There was no talk of 'big game' or anything.

>>7977520
I'm >>7977487 and >>7977509 was right. You're a fucking moron who can't read.
Who brought r9k to cgl anyway?

>>7977509
I said "tried" though.

Calling a man gay if he's only ever tried to be with women but fails is hardly comparable to calling a woman straight if she's only ever been with men, made no effort to ever be with a woman, but still claims to be bi.

Like seriously, theres tons of ways that gay/bi people find each other all the time but so many of you in here are acting like it's some impossible feat you can only imagine.

My comm has a lesbian couple, someone who I am pretty sure is bi, and an attention whore bisexual who yells about groping people all the time. I don't know about most of the others. I don't actually go out with everyone most of the time since I am shy and my coording skills aren't the best. One of the girls in the relationship is super encouraging though and never lets me give up!

B-But maybe I will be able to get more confidence once I move and be able to go meet other lesbian lolitas.

I doubt it.

I cosplay as well, but all the cosplay lesbians I meet are crazy as fuck.

>>7977460
Sorry, anon. Not from Europe.

>>7976645
Anon please start a blog documenting your ultimate kawaii double princess life so we can live vicariously through you. Also post pics of your decor because I am soooo interested 0w0

>>7977520
"Big game" as in talking about being interested at all, god you're so stupid, why

>>7977524
Okay, but were you >>7977496? Were you turning the contrasting attitudes toward bi women and straight men into some unrelated insult in your head? If not, I'm not talking to you.

And I still think that's a stupid way of looking at it. A man can be a virgin his whole life, and we accept that he's straight. A woman happens to stay committed to a man, assuming they aren't poly and she isn't a cheating slut, then she still HAS to be straight because "but you haven't been with a woman!" Yeah, because she's in a relationship??? I'm not saying that there are no women ever who claim to be bi for attention or to feel special, but just because someone has been exclusively with one sex in a committed relationship doesn't mean they aren't genuinely attracted the other.

>>7976728
#notallmen

>>7977237
I think it's because for once, women can objectify men. While it's a shitty thing to do, people like doing it, and yaoi is kind of the only way women can which is why you have all kinds of women from all different sexual orientations who like it.

>>7975329
>How many of those were actually hot and not ita?
>I'm the only one I know
You are the only megalomaniac one I know too..

>>7977781
Anon, they didn't mean they're the only got one, they meant they don't know any other lesbians at all.

>>7977698
This is awful bait.

>>7977237
>>tfw she then tells me "I wish girls had dicks too!"

Send her to visit /d/.

>>7977698
>While it's a shitty thing to do, people like doing it,

Why is it a shitty thing? We all need to schlick now and then.

>>7977425
Same tho

>see Lolita grill I've seen around campus a couple times
>get excited because I need women friends here
>want to say hi even though I look like shit and dressed like a hobo after finals
>get closer, I wouldn't say there was anything particularly ita about her but she was wearing some mega poof petti that was way to poofy for any dress and really really ugly "leg warmers" that looked like dish rags, and a body line jacket that missed the color mark a bit, don't think she had a blouse. Not the worst but ehh.
>no/bad makeup and hair, but it's finals week, but why would you wear such a giant petti at post secondary especially during finals
>such big petti, so little styling
>turn around and decide nope after seeing she also looks quite a bit younger
I feel kind of bad for judging, but dat way too big petti and messy coord being worn during finals mang.
I also feel every 17-18 year old girl I've ended up talking to, have been people who are kind of cringey and not self aware.


How do you guys usually talk to Lolita's you see in everyday life anyways? I'm not really sure if she's in the comm even so I don't know if asking would be awkward. Especially when I look like a tired crazy unfashionable normal fag everytime I do see someone.

But seriously, that petti was gigantic. Like the same kind of crazy poof rinrin did with CDC at the ap fashion show.

>>7976388
It's not about 'passing' as much as it's about being a girl or being a boy, but the outside doesn't match what you are, essentially.

To announce it like that would just tell me this person is looking for preferential treatment because they go about life differently than others.

>>7977164
Sieg, when you find the right man, it'll make a lot more sense. Until then, shut your whore mouth. :)

>>7977237
>I wish girls had dicks
huehuehue
I've got a whole suitcase loaded up just for you.
At least a 5 crazy / 6 hotness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKWmFWRVLlU

>>7977491
Yes it does, she's short, and has a baby face.
Like one chick I knew in high school, Alumni teacher's aid that constantly was mistaken as a new middle schooler.

>>7976429
I wish I wasn't as bad at coordinating as I am, so that I could be the Sempai you deserve.

>>7978095
whoops
>n not m, of course.

>>7976772
lol except some of us are lesbians into femme girls which means we have to do 100% of the approaching and have a much higher rejection rate than the average straight dude. so what am i saying "yes" to exactly? the straight men who hit on me who i have zero interest in because i don't like dick at all? like literally even the spergiest dudes i know have more nerdy chicks throwing themselves at them in a year than any lesbian i know has had in a lifetime. i actually do have some sympathy for approach anxieties and am always VERY nice to the straight bros i let down but perspective bro u are being illogical

im ott femme (gothic aristocrat style) in lolita and normie clothes but i also like being the dominant androgynous acting/talking/walking one in a relationship with another ott femme. i am actually cool with both dominant and non personality types but she has to look femme. how fucked am i on finding a relationship lol? havent found much luck so far

>>7977524
And I wasn't replying to you? Unless you're the one who made the stupid jump from comparing situations to some weird perceived insult in your head. In which case, I was only criticizing said weird leap and not your original argument, durrr.

>>7977164
this accurately decribes my current relationship

im living the fairytale!

nice

>>7976297
so youre tall and lanky as fuck
~so desireable anon~

>>7978302
despite ur jealousy, my waist to hip ratio is considered the ideal worldwide and across all times and places in history, and my waist to height ratio is a ratio of models and barbie. you may not think its attractive and thats okay but most of the world disagrees sorrynotsorry

>>7978206
Shame you meantion thiss here anon. Ideal switching situation right there

>>7975336

Well, missus. They do make makeup... you know that... right. Some concelear, some eyeliner (just on the top), and some fake lashes and lipgloss... I'm sure your face would not be that buttery.

>>7978359
Actually you're not the 10-1-10 ratio and if you think 32-20-32 is 10-1-10 you definitely are lying. Plus you wouldn't be such an attention whore about it online if you had it and werent a spazz. No one's jealous of you bad math bullshit. That's not even difficult math.

>>7978412
what is the 10-1-10 ratio?

>>7975403

Listen... as someone with experience posting nudity photos on a board....

Tons of people will call you ugly, tons of people will call you beautiful... and then there's 10,000 people who never left a comment that may think your beautiful or ugly.

Some of the people saying your ugly are truly just mean. Some of the people saying your ugly just honestly don't find you attractive. Your simply not their type. That being said, there are people who don't find Paris Hilton their type... or Jolie. Our facial features don't please everyone.

And then a lot of people think your truly pretty. Just stay strong and know that you are pretty and.... Ugh, let us get to the point. STOP LISTENING TO YOUR COMMENTS. Even the ones that say your pretty. STOP IT. Did you think you looked good that day? Damn right you did. That's all that matters. There are too many types of people for one size fits all.

>>7978359
your waist hip ratio isn't 0.7, though it is close.

>>7978418
The supposedly most desired one, you spazz. Good job on knowing what you're lying about. Be gone with you.

>>7978206
You sound like my ideal gf. I currently have a large moehara wardrobe and am trying to build a sweet/classic + hime lolita wardrobe, if that gives you any kind of idea of what kind of femme I am... W-where do you live, anon?

>>7978412

the ideal waist to hip ratio is considered to be 0.7, wtf are you on about?

I'm 5'10 39-26-41 but I just look ridiculous and I can't find clothes that fit, everything just makes me look fat unless it has a fitted waist and I'm too tall for anything to have a waist that actually falls in the right place and doesn't end up being an empire waist.

>>7978426
lol my measurements are exactly .7 but im not gonna argue with fatties lmao or give my pinfo.

if you look bad in clothes at 5'10" thats ur body proportions. modeling agencies like hiring girls 5'8"+ because they look ideal in clothes. you must have a short torso. you'd look shit at any height then sorry.

>>7978412
lol sorry u invalidate ur entire argument by accusing me of lying. so u are just praying i am lying. but since i am not and my measurements are actually superior to those given ... you just prove that u are jealous and you find me to be the ideal. its okay if u dont believe i have that body since u dont even know who i am. the satisfaction u give me is knowing when u see me on the street u bristle with envy

neway i just really dont have the time to argue with fat itas. u are exactly the people i said i was not interested in. so it was fun to rile u up i guess but fuck off and hit the gym. im only going to be replying to hot lolitas seriously

>>7977805
>ex-yaoi fangirl who finally grew up

w/e mate

>>7977928
It's shitty to objectify people because, oh gee I don't know, it's objectifying people? I never said people should stop, we all do it, it's just shitty is all.

>>7975329
Well, I'm just getting into it so I don't think I count sadly.

>>7977164
You sound lonely... actually i think what i wrote accurately describes a relationship that is both serious and mature. only thing to add is that having crushes while committed is ok. as long as you don't act on the crush. (i mean like thinking someone is hot or enjoying the company of someone in a friend way or even fantasizing). That is unless you're in an open relationship but i personally don't find those to be healthy for my personal life. But i don't judge anyone who is in one as long as you are happy and it works for you

>>7977284
if you're happy that's fine. As long as you don't actually regret not being with her then all is well.

Bisexuality doesn't go away when you choose a partner. You're still you and that's ok to sometimes wonder.

The problem with being Bisexual is realizing that you don't quite fit into one community or another. which is totally ok. LGBT never quite fit for me and deep down you know you're not exactly straight either. That's fine too!

What really gets to me is how people sit there and categorize us and act like gate keepers.

SO what if someone is Sexually Bisexual and Romantically Straight or Gay. It doesn't make them any less bisexual. The whole point is that we don't all fit one place or another because we have our own category, where we belong. so by shoving out those who you feel arn't Bi enough you're defeating the purpose.

Although i personally am Bisexual both romantically and sexually, do we really have to dissect each persons sexuality and make them feel like they don't belong here either. Sure many 14 year olds run around kissing each other for fun and flaunt it off to their male friends for attention (yes this does happen at all ages) but didn't we all experiment at all when we were younger. heck i remember trying to sneek a boob on the fuzzy channel 99 or 95 back in the 90s by clicking up and down quickly. let them be. they'll figure it out in time too.

..and i ended up ranting..

>>7978093
I meant the 14 year old with a push up bra? What the fuck does that mean? Is it supposed to be a joke or something, it's not funny.

>>7978588
I think you've been on tumblr too fucking much. There's no way the body can differentiate from lust and romance like that, it can vary from person to person, but romance is generally a secondary chemical manifestation of attraction it is impossible for it to switch on and off between sexes.

I do however agree that bi people are generally put in a weird spot, especially since now tumblrtards are insistent that being bi means you are transphobic. I can't fucking help who I'm attracted to, fuck you.

>>7978572
oh! okay. I literally have never had anyone tell this to me before.

>>7978601
Depends on the person... and I don't Tumblr at all. I never got the point of it.

For me, sexuality and love don't always go together. I feel like they are separate. Many and maybe most people think love leads to sex but to me, love is love and sex is sex. I'm sexually attracted to many people i don't feel i could ever love. and i've loved people who i wasn't sexually attracted to. Sounds confusing i know. it's just different in my world.

How the fuck does being Bi make you transphobic? Many people are actually Pansexual but identify as Bisexual. I like female to man transsexual men. I think it's hot as hell.. but i don't identify as pansexual because i'm not attracted to Male to female transsexual ladies.

>>7978692
=) glad i said it then! that cat made my day!!

>>7978601
It's kind of funny because implying that bisexuality is transphobic because it excludes trans people is actually really transphobic itself. I think all *legitimate* transgender people want to be seen as a man or woman, not a transgender man or woman. So to say that there needs to be a whole new sexuality to include them is just really terrible - you're just admitting you don't see them as a real man or woman. Sure, I'm sure some bisexuals aren't attracted to trans people, but I think that's definitely more of a personal preference, not a defining aspect of their sexuality.

The only instance I see being pan as even slightly useful is in the case of intersex people, and even then no one EVER seems talks about them in the case of pansexuality. They are a very small portion of the population though, so is it really even required to invent a new label for being able to be attracted to them? Why can't some people just accept that bisexuality can be all inclusive and we don't have to label every little thing that deviates from its dictionary definition?

>>7978723
Sounds about right to me!

>>7975552 another finnfag detected. Pic taken at kaapelitehdas, yes? Tbh I feel like every single lolita in finland is a 3edgy5u lesbian..

>>7978899
I met a few legit ones. One has been married to her butch gf for 8 years.

>>7976297
I'm the same height, except I'm four inches bigger all around.Hello no hips/ass-chan.
>lanky
>Desirable

>>7978723
It's cause tumblr. Tumblrtards don't understand that trans people aren't a 'gender' or whatever. The trans is for transition. Either way, I think when it comes to trans people, differentiating whether or not you want to be in a sexual relationship with them is fine, some people don't like it(though with scientific advances it will be 100% impossible to tell in the near future) HOWEVER, pansexual is only ever used as a pretentious term for bisexual, with people saying shit like "I don't see gender teehee~" yes you do, stop being so special snowflakey. Everyone sees what they're attracted to and bi people could possibly be physically attracted to a trans person not all cause that's not how it works. Also, what about people who are only attracted to mtf or vice versa? They're not pan, and what about straight people who are fine with post op trans?

Tumblr tries so hard to be 'inclusive' they end up making a bunch of separate, non-inclusive terms that alienate everyone so much the original point behind it is lost. But then, they do this with everything, gender, sexual orientation, pronouns, fandoms, weight, race. I just hate how they seem to think it's good.

>>7976297
No one wants a 30 inch waist.
>5'10 34-26-40
>40in long legs
>actually a model

sorry it's not the face you're just butter
peanut butter and jelly.

bahaha

>>7978934
u realize they said 20 not 30 right

>>7978938
I do, it was a typo.

I feel bad for her honestly, she'll have to wear child's clothes for the rest of her life, obviously can't wear brand at all, it's like the opposite of bit tits but the same affect.

>>7978945
Honestly you're the one that sounds jelly here
You sound like one of those fat girls who keep telling themselves "b-but only dogs like bones!"

>>7978947
Not that anon, but you're getting super defensive and using really lame comebacks. Are you jelly of one or both of them? Being that tiny must suck in lolita, those are tiny measurements for even Japanese girls, and lolita is a fat girl fashion.

>>7978947
Nah, she's seeming super pretentious about her 'amazing' proportions so I can only assume she'd be jelly of someone who can actually fit lolita properly. Also if you didn't notice I'm not even fat, but no one wants a 20 in waist, especially at 5'8, she's likely starving herself, anon.

>>7977928
>Send her to visit /d/.
I don't think she's ready for that.

>>7978206
That's basically my ideal.

>>7978723
Yeah, exactly. I'm bi and I would date a ftm or mtf if I found him/her attractive. They fall into the bi-spectrum for me because... one identifies as male, the other female? I hate the term pansexual.

>>7978929
Kind of like being a cis girl/boy... what the even fuck.

>>7978955
lol U SKINNY BITCH ALL REAL MEN ARE CHUBBY CHASERS U MUST BE STARVING URSELF

lol the most typical angry fatty response ever and thats not a lame comeback? yes, darling, nobody wants my perfect hourglass figure. that's why all supermodels have waists and heights similar to mine or even skinnier. that's why all men's mags are filled with women of my proportions or skinnier.

like i said. hit the gym instead of whining about how other lolis are hotter than u. u will always look like a disproportionate cupcake in lolita no matter how much you whine about it being a fat girl's fashion. your petti doesnt hide your fupa as well as you would like to imagine

>>7979559
>u
>i
Learn to spell and capitalize before you make a bigger ass of yourself.

>>7979559
Anon, you realize 32-20-32 is this woman's exact measurements, right? This is the Romanian model Iona Spangenberg, and she is 5'6'', meaning you must look even more freakish than her if you are really 5'8'' like you say you are. Trust me, no one is jealous of you for looking like this. Your body is like Mike Teavee from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory after he gets put in the taffy puller.

Ugh there were two beautiful ouji girls at my ILD meet today and they were being affectionate and sweet on each other and it made me so jealous.

>>7979587
Learn to work out before you embarrass yourself with your fatty jealousy again cunt.

>>7979826
Anon, you realize this photo is photoshopped to hell and back right, or else this woman is lying about her measurements? Her waist looks smaller than nerina orton's corsetted (15 inches, same height), cathie jung's corsetted (15 inches), michelle koebke (16 inches), I could keep going on and up...

<<Here's a real normal 20 incher.

And yes, many people would KILL to look like that.

>>7979986
>implying she doesn't wear a corset as well

>>7978206
You're not that fucked, in fact I'm interested too... :)

>>7978418
I thought it was 10-7-10?

I'm gay as hell but all the girls in my comm are pretty straight. Sigh.