/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7965789
Uniqlo heatech is super effective with lolita, probably because lolita clothing fits close to the body sealing in the heat on your torso. Your legs are left comparatively colder but I hear fleece lined tights are good for that. Of course at a certain temperature wearing lolita isn't feasible though.

>>7965838
>>7965789
I was just about to ask this! Are uniqlo heattech tights effective? I am planning to pick up some of their heattech tops for layering under blouses too.

Any advice on some snow-friendly loliable shoes? Moving to an area that snows a lot and I have no idea how to prepare myself since I'm from california.

>>7965870
I love the tops, but have never tried the tights - I have seen some girls who wear them as a skiing base layer, for what it's worth.
The important thing about snow friendly shoes is grip and snowproofness, so normal stores with loliable shoes are the best thing for that.

Does Jane Marple ever have sales on their webshop?
I've been wanting to buy one of their bags and it doesn't seem to be that popular, so I was hoping it might go on sale.

Sorry for the dumb, but is shipping from Harajuku Hearts expensive? I want to order some tights from them but I'm a little sick right now and can't tell exactly what their website is trying to say regarding shipping costs.

>>7965870
My uniqlo tights fall down all the time.

>>7965870
I just finally stocked up on heattech stuff, because I'll be travelling to scandivia soon-ish and really want to wear lolita. I hope they're as good as everyone says.

Are there any places you can recommend for loliable winter boots for big feet (27cm)? Preferrably within the EU. Tried all my regular shoe shops, no luck.

>>7965970
Their webshop is relatively new but I don't recall them having sales there. I think it might be instore only.

>>7965999
Heattech is good but it is still just a single layer of shirt. It wont work miracles but it's better than traditional waffle style long underwear.

>>7965870
I live in NYC and stocked up on some leggings and heattech undershirts from them. The heattech tights and leggings are probably not going to be great on their own in weather under 30 degrees. You may have to layer. They have thick tights I've never tried, though.

Testing out the leggings on my own today one more time. Guess I'll post results later?

Does anyone have any idea what the patterns are in Otome no Sewing Book 6. I already have 2-5 and am looking into buying the sixth one too. I'm just wondering if anyone knows what to expect from this volume.

>>7966112
http://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/cgl/thread/S7948407#p7949235

>>7966124
Thank you very much Anon!

>>7966015
Yeah, I don't expect it, but undershirt/heattech/blouse/dress/Cardigan and layered tights should keep me toasty!

I saw these JSKs get posted up by some weird ass (probably shitty) shopping service on Lolita Sales. Could anyone point me in the direction to the actual seller of these?? I love love the plaid one. I also tried to doing a reverse image search and I couldn't find anything.

>>7965973
They're known for overinflating shipping prices, yeah.

>>7966260
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-8882160491.4.YNFkZa&id=41427107762

>>7966014
Thank you. Do you think it might be worth asking a SS to keep a lookout?

>>7966260
they're amavel and are meant for otome. Not enough length or volume for lolita.

>>7966260
>those hidden watermarks

New GLB came out this week

I use these when it is very cold, they are lined with cashmere but look like if you wear tigh highs.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=41824279110
There are a bunch of solid colored ones in that stores too.

I edited the photos on the BTSSB/AatP happy pack preview post to see the cuts/prints and I'm pretty excited, it looks like both are Alice In Wonderland themed and a step up from the florals last year.

blog post from BTSSB on the packs here:
g o o DOT g l FORWARD-SLASH 4BX9TS

>>7966861
Could you please post your edits, anon? For all of us who suck at photo editing sofware.

>>7965870
Heattech is awesome. I don't own any tights (yet, I asked for some for Christmas), but I wear my leggings and long sleeved shirts all the time through the winter. I just layer them like crazy. On really cold days, I'll wear my leggings, a pair of high denier tights, and tall knit socks with boots, which does the trick.

>>7966893
I have the heattech sweater shorts and they're amazing to layer under skirts and dresses.

>>7966861
>>7966885
Sure. First is BTSSB..

>>7966885
>>7966861
Here's AatP.

>>7966906
This looks cute but like it might be similar to Briar Rabbit's Paysage, just with White Rabbit instead. Hmm...

>>7966861
anyone know if the ny/sf stores will get them?

I came across this dress on my dash, but the caption didn't say the name. In fact, there was no caption at all, so can anybody tell me the name? This dress is gorgeous.

>>7967100
Vilma OP. It's been rereleased a few times and is very popular, so it's not too hard to find.

Are anyone else's favorited listings on lacemarket suddenly completely wiped out?

>>7967104
thank you!

Uniqlo is for poor people, stop wearing so much make up.

Thank you.

>>7966893
>>7966896
thanks for the feedback! i just picked up some heattech under shirts (short and long sleeve since i'm not sure which would layer better).

how cold does it get in your area? I'm planning to wear this in -30c temps.

>>7967274
then recommend something better for insulation?

>>7966969
Not totally sure about the stores but it'll be available online from what I can gleam, and since they previously had LPs at the US stores I would assume so.

Did anyone see the final tally for the meta contest? They took the album down.

>>7967791
They're announcing winners on December 4th.

>>7966560
Their sales will be announced on their blog, but you'll need an ss to buy stuff when the time comes.

>>7967128
Yes, and i can't find an auction I wanted to bid on. It's completely gone so I can't even tell if someone else bought it or what

I kinda want to know more about lolita as I'm interested in the fashion but I have a couple of questions:

I sometimes do gijinka-type cosplays: so long as I wasn't claiming it to be a lolita piece/ outfit, I'm guessing it's ok to experiment with 'lolita-esque' outfits? (I'm trying to give myself fashion side projects to build on my sewing/making skills as well as make something that's different from what I ususally wear).

Aside from some of the threads here, where else ought an aspiring lolita lurk prior to buying, etc?

>>7968076
I think cosplay lolita looks super tacky 99% of the time. But like you said, just don't call it lolita.

> where else ought an aspiring lolita lurk prior to buying
I think the ita and nit pick threads helped me out a lot since it made me more critical to myself. Also vloggers.

so how are you lovely gulls decorating for the holidays

>Tfw you have a christmas-themed brand piece you never wear
>Tfw now is the best time to sell it
>Tfw you can't bring yourself to do it, it's too pretty.
Dang it. Another year passes.

OMFG I AM SO PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW
Ok, so this chick from my countries comm sales was selling a dream dress of mine for a really good price, but I had to let it go because of reasons, and then by the time I could buy it, someone else had bought it. Another girl is now reselling it for $300 more than she paid for it, and I am so furious about this. She also isn't mentioning that she smokes and has a cat in her description when selling.
What I find especially irritating is that she KNOWS she is scalping it, because she just made two sales posts in different sales comms. She of course didn't post the $500 jsk in our sales comm where she bought it, because nobody is going to spend that much on a $200 jsk that was just sold in it a few months ago.
It made me cry, I am so sad that I will never have this jsk...

Is Closet Chidl acting weird for anyone else too? The page isn't fully loading and I cannot really access it. Tried it with different borwsers and poxies but no luck.

>>7968277
message a mod and let them know that she smokes and has a pet so they can comment on her post telling her to add it on - as someone that lives with someone that is allergic to cigarette smoke, that is a serious thing

>>7968086

Yeah, I admit I imagined that it'd get a response like that: do you have an example of the '1 in 100' that isn't (as tacky as the rest?)

Any recommended vloggers?

>>7968454
>diff anon
Well, cosplay lolita isn't lolita, so there wouldn't be one.

Found this on tumblr, would you say it applies to lolita/otome as well?

>>7968501
No

>>7968501
This barely applies to regular fashion. It also takes no consideration in to shades or tones.

>>7968454
>>7968466
http://lolita-tips.tumblr.com/inspiration
Maybe these will help. Some of them are still pretty tacky though.

As for vloggers, the only one I can think of off the top of my head that posts tips as stuff is LovelyLor.

So i want to reserve the Medusa print from KL. The problem is I'm hesitating between blackxred and beige. I have same amount of accessories for both.
Fyi I'm blond (naturally) with fair skin and dark eyes. In both colours I look good.

>>7968630

Definitely blackxred. I like the colors much more for the blackxred.

>>7968630

Also, KL is banning SS so make sure your SS isn't well known or is ordering another item in your size/color/cut already, because I think KL is banning SS from ordering more than one of the same color+cut+size.

>>7968295
Yeah. The formatting has been super weird and bad for me since they updated it.

I have some questions about Medusa, too. I've been gone from /cgl/ for a few weeks so I've missed out on a lot. Where even is the reserve page for this? When does it go up for reservation? And where can I see all the previews?

>>7968630
Seconding blackxred. The print looks really good against the red background imo. I'm getting this colourway, too. I'm using Pruany so I'm anxious about whether my reservation goes through.

>>7968642
This is such a garbage policy. I was so hype about Medusa but I don't know if going through Clobbao is gonna be worth it. Plus I just can't decide which cut to get, and if I do go through Clobbao I know I'll only be getting one, instead of trying to grab one of each and then selling on whatever doesn't work for me, like I did with Mozarabic Chant.

I guess it's our comm's turn to have a crazy girl. The worst we've had were cheap weebs, but they've quieted down since people stopped answering.

A younger-looking girl posted a picture of herself earlier, and mentioned she "liked this bow, and notice her crazy colored eyes." Okay whatever. I just check tonight and she's posted the classic "It's not lolita but I'm proud of it" ensemble, which is of course poorly put together. Then mentions she's trying to look less pregnant. I go to her page and she's 19 and has visible self-harm scars on her arms...

;_; I hope she and her child are okay.

I've never ordered from Haenuli before, when they ship out, how long does it take for a package to arrive?

>>7967128
omfg no

it must have happened to everyone because it happened to me too

i had so much stuff fav'd in there for future reference and didn't save the links... whyyyy

>>7968147
>...now is the best time to wear it?

>>7968838

I was about to ask you if we both knew her, but then I realised the weeb I knew with self harm scars and a baby at 16 is now 23.

Jesus, I hope her and her kid are doing okay.

>>7968911
They're not.

>>7968912
really? what's the details?

captcha: 911

quick question: how common is it to see re-releases up on secondhand sites? I missed the IW crown jewels reservation and that was the dress that made me fall in love with lolita

>>7968922
Crown Jewel isn't a rerelease... So not sure what you mean.

Any idea where the boots in OP's picture come from?

>>7967128
Mine too. I had like a year's worth of stuff saved there, so pissed.

>>7968977
They're hoping it will get rereleased and want to know their chances.

>>7969089
But they're asking about secondhand sites and
>that was the dress that made me fall in love with lolita
when it was released literally this past week...?

>>7969106
The logical guess would be that they misspoke or are confused about the name and meant Grazia crown or maybe one of the other crown prints.

>>7969118
sorry newfriend here - didn't mean to clutter thread with a dumb question

>>7968086
I wouldn't recommend ita and nitpick threads to a beginner. Sometimes people are really nitpicky, one might think "I can't wear lolita if I have a big nose or my coord is too boring." Some might be so scared of being posted they won't wear it until they have a 100% perfect coord.
I'd recommend blogs like lolita-tips or fyeahlolita to get the basics straight.

>>7968277
Which dress is it? I doubt she'd try selling a Fancy Paper Doll for $500 instead of $200 and expecting any bites.

Hey guys! Just wondering... a bit personal, but what underwear do you tend to wear under dresses? Excluding bloomers. Smooth cupped bras? Pretty bras? Shapewear? What about things to prevent sweat staining your pretty blouses?

Any advice is super appreciated!

Requesting a coordinate of BtSSB's Veronica Elisse. It was on a mannequin paired with boots and a top hat... I can't seem to find it anywhere

>>7969463
I just wear what I wear normally unless the dress is tight, then i wear a sports bra.

>>7969463
I wear cute, frilly sets. I just like to look cute all over whenever I wear my prettiest clothes.

>>7969429
I like looking at co-ord help threads here, as a newbie. Gives an idea of how people feel pieces should flow together, color balancing, and the like.

>>7969529
Coord help id definitely better, but even there you have people who are really picky over colour matching. Take everytging with a grain of salt on cgl.

>>7969463
My normal underwear, but I'll often go for a push-up bra if it's something fixed size.

So these days it's around 3*C in my home country and I'm not doing good with cold weather. Here are my tricks with lolita.

As a classic lolita, I can wear long dresses. Long dresses + bloomers + thermal tights + high socks + boots = win.
I wear a thin thermal undershirt under my blouse.
Maybe add a cardigan over that.
Woolen Lolita coat.
Fake fur or vintage fur stole instead of scarf for added classiness.
Hats with built-in clips/ hat pins.
Hair low to keep my ears warm/add extra neck coverage.
I use silk lined leather gloves too.
Lolita is actually my favorite thing to wear in winter time, so snugly.

>>7969463
Depends on the dress and what I'm wearing with it. I have a few cute frilly underwear sets that I like to wear with lolita but I'm always paranoid about them showing through, so I often end up wearing a nude minimizing t-shirt bra under everything. To protect my clothes I often wear a plain camisole in a matching colour but I'm looking into getting some underarm guards, especially for short-sleeved OPs.

Roli here. For the Anon with the attached wardrobe, I've made my suggestions for you on my blog. As always, 4chan thinks I'm spamming but it's the newest post on Roli's Ramblings.

>>7969651
Argh... sorry for the uber-huge file, forgot to downsize it.

>>7969651
Hey thats my wardrobe! Thankyou so much for doing that for me anon, i'm very happy with the suggestions you have given me. I really love reading your blog. Keep up the good work!

>>7969651
Deets on those booties third from the left?

>>7969659
You're very welcome, glad it was helpful!

>>7968677
I got it. I know no one cares but I'm so happy.

>>7969661
Google reveals that they are Exquisite Edge Block Heel Lace up Boots apparently.

>>7969728
>sold out
abloobloo
Thanks for your help, though! Clearly I need to train up on my google-fu.

>>7969736
Reverse image search, the lazy way to find things!

Advice for filling out lolita shoes better? I got a pair that are the right length but are a little too wide, or maybe my feet are just a bit slender, but there's definitely a sizable gap between the round toe part of the shoe and the top of my foot. Are there inserts that could fix this problem?

>>7969463
Unpadded bra, flesh-colored camisole, regular panties and pj shorts.

>>7969463
Matching bra and panties. They got to match when I'm in lolita. Sometimes I wear Agent Provocateur on special days even though I'm single.

Speaking about underwear, I acquired a skirt and do you wear a white or nude bra? I know wearing a cute, colorful bra would see through my blouse especially a white one. :x

>>7969863
I wear a nude bra and camisole if the blouse is sheer.

does the girl from lolita-tips upset anyone else here? it's like... she's almost ita but not quite there

>>7969891
oh thats so bad. like thats a bad drawing on top of it being basically ita. thought lolita-tips had standards?

>>7969891
link?

>>7969898
>http://lolita-tips.tumblr.com/post/100142933788/a-revised-guide-to-the-many-styles-of-lolita

>>7969815
Possibly the ones that you put under the ball of your foot to cushion it could add a little lift.

>>7969891
Maybe a friend gave her the drawing and it was just to awkward to turn it down

>>7969863
For me, it's nude under white always. White on white shows up terribly.

>>7969891
Yeah, it looks like permission to post that art. That's why they're subpar. It's better than posting great stolen art images and being flamed?

Kind of very sad, boyfriend wanted to get me IW's Leopolda Onepiece in Navy/L for Xmas and I just got a sold out e-mail.
And the site lists it as still in stock..
I guess I will just settle for grey.

>>7969891
>>7969912
>>7969895
I've anonymously, and politely, asked if she would accept fresh new artwork to better reflect the text.
Since most of us here probably draw, it seems like a good idea, we could fix the hime one as well.

>>7969915
So jelly of lolitas who have boyfriends that would spend that much on them, and take enough interest to understand what to buy. I'm sure you will look lovely in the grey.

>>7969909
Nah she was fishing around for free art on tumblr for a while, so those were the results.

>>7969932
Most good artists don't work for free, so that's not surprising.

Suggestions for themed bags for military lolita?

>>7969815
There are toe inserts that places like Daiso sell for that specific purpose

>>7969431
I dont like to say but it is quite a popular Angelic Pretty release. $200 was the lowest price I had ever seen it at, normally it goes for $400-$500.

>>7969978
Kawaii gun purse

>>7970033
No.

So, apparently I got banned from Baby.

I tried ordering something from them via email nearly two weeks ago.

Just now, I received an email saying I am on their blacklist for not paying within 10 days.

I only have one email address (a gmail). I checked my spam, searched my inbox (which moves slowly) and... nothing. I never got an update from them about my item being ready for me to order.

This is the first time I ever ordered from them too, and I am pissed. Something clearly happened here, but instead of trying to figure it out with me they just ban me?

>>7968076
Go for lolita coord with a subtle tip/nod to a character, not a character inspired lolita coord.

>>7968501
This is wrong even for normal fashion, so no.
>pairing yellow and orange
ew

>>7968147
Which one is it? Wear it then?

>>7968501
>what are warm and cool tones
>implying navy doesn't go with basically everything
>calling mint sky blue
>"Everything dark except gloves"
Wat

>>7970098
Adjust your monitor. That is sky/pale blue. There is not enough green in it to be mint.

>>7970055
>Something clearly happened here, but instead of trying to figure it out with me they just ban me?
Yup sounds like Baby

I'm fairly new to actually buying lolita (been on this board since 2008 depressingly enough) so I only have a few AP blouses currently, but I'm debating getting some cheap black Bodyline ones just to bulk up my wardrobe a bit - what's the quality like? anything to watch out for in the stock photos?

>>7970140
What are you doing with your life

>>7970140
Don't go for Bodyline, try taobao brands if you're on a budget.

>>7969924
>>7969975
Yes, I'm sure some new artists would want to do it though. Maybe it was the way she asked for it? I'm a designer and I offered an indie Lolita magazine free design work, but she just wanted to stick with her Microsoft office version. There's no helping some people

>>7970153
being horribly depressed and spending all my money on lolita before i an hero
>>7970155
thanks, I'll just stick to brand if bodyline is that awful, it's more convenience than money problems

>>7970140
The only one I would recommend is L076

>>7970140
Seconding Taobao. I really love the Pumpkin Cat blouses I bought and there are other brands there that cost about the same as Bodyline but are much, much nicer. Bodyline only has one or two decent blouses afaik.

>>7970166
ah they are pretty cute, maybe I should finally get my head around taobao after Christmas, I just really need some black blouses, thanks for the name!

>>7970033
That's got to be the most useless purse I've ever seen

>put lipstick in purse
>slides all the way down into the handle part
>what do

Does anyone have suggestions for shorter Pettis that have a med-light poof?
Right now I'm using just a cheap normal tulle one from eBay that works nicely, but is too long and poofy for some of my dresses and skirts even when I roll the band up

>>7970174
>top fucking kek

>>7970175
Bodyline pettis have shit poof if that's what you're after.

>>7970182
I have one of the more expensive ones and the poof is good, but it's heavy and the material is ruining tights.

>>7970175
Leg avenue

>>7970139
Is protesting even worth it? I kind of don't even care at this point because I don't like much of their stuff anyway, but I am so pissed they banned me from their fuckup.

>>7970296
Try politely telling them that you never got the confirmation mail.
Wow, now I'm scared to do a mail order.

>>7969464
Is this it, anon?

>>7969549
I totally forgot that coord help was a thing. Also the Fashion Mentoring group on FB could be helpful.

>>7970140
Generally Bodyline blouse fabric is a bit uncomfortable, the only one I'd recommend is L527.

As everyone else has said, try taobao. I like my Magic Tea Party blouse. Or, if you don't want taobao, The Floral Notebook is a good indie blouse maker with reasonable prices.

>>7970386
YES THANK YOU!! I tried reverse image and looking for Veronica elisse but nothing showed up

I never got around to seeing one of the Oojia DDC replicas and I wish it would have stayed that way.
This one is being sold for 100$ and I'm just wondering who'd buy this even if you liked the print. That shape is hideous.
There are some replicas that can sort of pass for the real thing from far and then there's this.

>>7969891
wow apparently there were enough of you asking about redraws to merit a full post gj

>>7970853
Dumb bitch. The artist seems like they know nothing about lolita.

>>7970691
I've seen the tiered JSK version in person, and while the one I saw was much bigger than the original (I own it) it didn't look too far off in details. The most noticeable was the shiny chiffon. The gold detailing was also there. But I couldn't tell how bad the shape was because it was too big for the girl and she was dumpy as all get out anyway.

This just look bizarre.

>>7970853

But what if the messages she got were from other artists who also need visibility.

Lolita-tips as usual has a scarcity of logic. This whole 'visibility' reason is not enough.

>>7970877
I remembered I offered to make her art for visibility a while ago. I got a few views and maybe even a follower or two. She has more followers now but anyone thinking having their art on her blog would make them popular overnight is living in a fantasy land. Makes sense considering her followers but still...

>>7970853
This pisses me off.
I mean, we could always get a few anons together and put together our own guide, just to make a point.

You know, one thing that would help this whole lolita-tips situation is if people stopped fucking recommending that blog to newbies and the lolita-curious. I see so many girls, even popular bloggers who really should know better, recommend that shitty fucking blog and it blows my mind almost enough to go and make a lolita help blog of my own.
I know I'm preaching to the choir a bit by saying this on cgl, but I wonder if I'm the only one mad enough to actually want to derail the whole thing. Pic semi-related, is this who we really want dispensing information on a fashion she clearly doesn't fully understand?

>>7969463
Usually i wear a padded bra, also flesh colored if blouse is white or pastel and i would try to buy some cute confy panties to match prints even if no one would see it like strawberries, polka dots, ribbons, bunnies etc... I want also to get some "gothic lolita" appropriate underwear.

Do I really do this up under my chin, I have a fat face so it looks really stupid but I can't find how to do it up behind my head like a headband. http://hellolace.net/wardrobe/angelic-pretty/type/headwear/item/251/

>>7971351

There is a comb behind the canotier. Stick that into your hair. Then slide bobby pins right over the comb, catching both the comb and your hair. Do this in an "X" formation, ie- cross the bobby pins. It's a lot stronger. Also use tight bobby pins, the ones that are old and gaping already.

You can also pin down the ribbon as it comes out from either side of the canotier (also two pins in "x" formation), try to hide the bobby pins under the ruffles.

Once you've done that the thing should be pretty secure on your head. Gently smooth out the ribbons down to the back of your head and gently tie a bow there. GENTLY. The ribbon is not the thing that holds the canotier to your head, it's now just hanging off the mass of "x"-ed bobby pins underneath the canotier. The idea is to stick the canotier to your head and then it's easier to tie the bow behind your neck.

If you reallly can't seem to secure the canotier with however many bobby pins, consider stitching and alligator clip or three to the underside of the canotier.

>>7971366

*use tight bobby pins, NOT the ones that are old and gaping

>>7971366
Thanks mang, you the best.

>>7971066
Yeah, but can you think of any better blog to recommend new lolitas?

>>7970587
ah that makes sense, I own a Bodyline dress that my friend gifted to me and compared to my AP blouses it's very rough and see through. looks like I'm going to have to do some taobao research, thank you everyone!

>>7971399
Yup. Places like fyeahlolita have some good guides and then tell them if they have any questions ask a lolita they like on tumblr. Hell, send people to Lor. She always seems to answer questions and answer them well.

Man, maybe I'll write a new version of the handbook, run it by all of CGL and put it on the interwebz somewhere.

>>7970858
Honestly though, how is this any different than all of the shitty dA charts for lolita types we've seen pass through here? Not saying I personally approve of any of it but at the end of the day it's her blog and she's gonna do what she wants, regardless of how absolutely shit-tier her advice and the artwork is.

>>7971507
This is a better idea than trying to fix lolita-tips, the jfash thread made one and it turned out decently enough since those of us more familiar with specific styles contributed.

>>7971066
I personally find it hard to navigate and too wordy. Tumblr is a poor platform for something like this.

There needs to be a more updated guide though. Because "I think <insert obscure substyle here> suits me best!" I try to instruct newbies in my panels about the main three styles and advise that all those substyles are variations of a theme and not to focus on those too much when you're starting out.

Also most information out there is poorly outdated.

>>7971508
Can we do a /cgl/ approved chart? Something with only the most relevant substyles (sweet, gothic, classic, boystyle), and some smaller ones (like punk, hime, sailor)? And some popular themes (OTT, oldschool, casual). I think I have fairly decent drawing skills, and maybe someone else can contribute as well.

>>7970853
If she actually cared about her current artist's feelings she shouldn't have posted this publicly. Can you imagine how embarrassed they must be after reading that?

should we just make another blogspot/wordpress then? ((name it lolita-tips also lmao)) tbh the lj lolita handbook has way more of a clue than lolita-tips and it's nearly 10 years old

>>7971630
Someone in another thread suggested frillville, which I think is awesome.

>>7971633
thats a great name, like that a lot

also I really want to reply to lolita-tips' post but at the same time I'm not willing for a tumblr shitstorm

>>7970055

You're supposed to email them back if you don't get a reply in ten days.

>>7971636
Not worth it, if anything, it'll make her want to change it even less.

I have some free domains left in my hosting package, so I'll just register frillville.net for shits and giggles. If anything comes out of it, I can redirect it there.

>>7971640

My bad, should be 3 days.


http://www.babyssb.co.jp/overseas/the-method-of-a-mail-order/

>>7970386
That's gorgeous.

>>7971644
Diff anon, that scares me that they will be like "oh look this person is pestering us BAN"

>>7971722

The rules are to email them AFTER three days, and to do it only if you've not heard back from them in those three days, anon, not to email them every three days non stop.

>>7971066
I actually think she understands it just fine, she just dresses like shit.

How are you supposed to wear AP's sack dresses?

>mfw someone asked if i was pregnant

>pic related

>>7971886
im sorry you bought that
try a belt?

>>7968501
>ewww brown with purple
>as that steampunk lolita monstrosity from Classic Puppets
>also wtf mint with that dark green
>>7971886
You can use it as a nightgown? I'm tempted to buy an AP sack dress but i fear to look pregnant, like a lamp or a sack of potatoes even if i'm tiny on the upper part.

>>7971889
There's too much fabric in the bodice area and if I use a belt it'll end up in a rectangular shape rather than that trapezium shape.

>>7971886
You need to have a thin/waif body to pull those off. Don't go OTT, so keep the hair and accessories simple

>>7971898
I like brown and purple and I was planning a coord in those colors. Is it really that bad? Will I get posted somewhere? Sorry I'm a noob.

Cosplayer here, just bought my first lolita dress and have questions about petticoats

I purchased a dear celine cupcake and a myvictoriagirl aline, but I'm really not happy with the material and how it feels. For those f you who sew, would it be possible to get the right amount of poof with a 3-4 tiered circle skirt (4x my waist), which each tier using horse hair braid?
http://doxiequeen1.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/the-adventures-of-making-a-fluffy-skirt--the-making-of-napoleon-eiyuu-senki--part-1/

I was thinking of using polyester lining, but I can't imagine the weight of the materials after they have all been combined.

I am really looking for a crinoline type petticoat that provides maximum poof without looking ridiculous, and I am trying to avoid layering as multiple elastics hurt my stomach. The issue with the chiffon/tulle is that it tends to bunch up and cause dips or crevices in my dress

Thanks in advance!

>>7971952
http://myhandsmadeit.com/tag/horsehair-braid/

Another example of using horsehair braid

>>7971931
I'm 5'1" and skinny and it's absolutely massive on me, hence the pregnant comment I guess.

>>7971952
you have a great bod,sticking to cosplay might be better option than hiding it in ruffles imo

>>7972039
that's not her...

>>7971886
I think these dresses work best of you don't have tits. Sports bra might help?

>>7972039
Get out.

>>7971945
If you're a noob then yes, it will get you posted.

So is there any chance Krad will let my SS cancel my Medusa preorder?

>>7972268
Probably make them do it due to their no ss rule (though idk the actual source of that, I've heard it from other people though).
Why do you want to cancel, anon?

>>7972280
They accepted my order through Pruany, though.
I wanted to cancel because I have a bit of a problem with buying stuff on impulse. I don't even like this series much.

>>7972288
Can you not just sell it when you get it? KR stuff is pretty popular with the western market. You might even turn a small profit.

>>7971886
wide belt/corset/vest of some sort? That's what Excentrique's sack shirt dress things go well with.

>>7972294
I could do that, yeah. Point is, I kind of need the money now or my bank account will end up overdrawn.
>meanwhile I'm looking at other stuff to buy

I just won something on lacemarket, what am I supposed to do now? wait for the seller to message me or invoice me, or should I be brave?

>>7972358
wait

>>7972392
I am bad at waiting (thank you)

>>7972394
i was in this situation not 3 days ago, getting your mind off of it could help with the process?

>>7972403
I really should be asleep anyway..but I want to pay for it so it's one step closing to shipping to me and I'm one step closer to staring at it in my closet...

>>7972405
aaaand I just bought something else from ebay. fuck everything, I'm going to bed, I hope I don't get banned from lacemarket overnight

>>7970853
>>7971636
She deleted it lmfao
http://lolita-tips.tumblr.com/post/104129401213/ive-gotten-a-few-messages-today-from-people

Who knows what's up with The Snowfield drama? I've seen a lot of posts about the girl who runs it disappearing recently...

>>7972444
>The Snowfield
http://www.thesnowfield.com/looking-for-new-face-of-the-snow-field/
looks like someone died???

>>7972419
Why would you be banned?

>>7972452
baby banned me a few years back for their mistake, and it was only when I moved and changed email and banks (not on purpose just life) that I could order from them again, I'm just paranoid. can you delete things from your watch list? lacemarket is scary

>>7971962
>
If you are looking for a well made petti made of crinoline you should have bought Classical Puppets. You won't need to layer petticoat with this brand. I have three of their petticoats (Cupcake, A line, long A line) and they are perfect! Lots of volume, soft rich feeling, holds up well, doesn't deflate often and have cute little details, like expensive lace.

>>7972333
What color and cut did you get?

Has anybody had problems ordering from The Snow Field Before?

I ordered from them in october and realized I still hadn't received my order a few weeks ago. I looked back through my emails and realized that they never even sent me a confirmation email or a notification of shipment (but I did have the paypal receipt). I emailed them asking what was going on but nobody ever replied. I opened a paypal dispute a couple weeks ago and still nobody has gotten back to me. Its my first time ordering from them and I'm really not impressed.

How much does the shirring stretch on meta blouses? I'm looking at a shirred back blouse from them that has listed measurements 5 cm under my my bust, will I be alright?

>>7972628
Depends on the blouse itself, but I noticed the luckypack blouses and chiffon/pearskin(silky...?) ones have more stretch and would definitely stretch 5 cm. You might still run into boob gap, so I'd only wear it under a dress.

>>7965789
I need some advice. I want to buy the Christmas Kumya dress in pink, red, or green from Baby. It's about 250 shipped brand new, but I never bought a holiday specific dress before. I really love the print... but a part of me wonders if it's kind of a waste because of the theme? To be honest I don't wear my lolita dresses a ton anyway, maybe twice a month tops, but damn it's cute. I just don't know if I can justify buying a christmas-exclusive dress. (Plus I have to wonder if the price will drop second hand by a significant amount?)

>>7972673
I'm curious about the projected price too. I'd love to have a Christmas-specific print; I go to Christmas and Holiday themed meets each year so it makes sense. (I also have one for Easter and Valentines day and wear them year-round, so it may be I'd do that too for this one.)

That's how I'd have to convince myself, not sure about what you'd do.

>>7971952
okayyyyy

this:
>http://myhandsmadeit.com/tag/horsehair-braid/
should work provided you got the proportions correct.

Here's why you need different petticoats (bear with me, I'm going to tell you why tiered circle skirts don't work):

Rectangle skirts are made from a rectangle of fabric. Usually you can tell if there is a border print, or if it's a gingham print and you can see it runs straight along the hem.
- On a rectangle skirt the poof happens mostly around the hips, not around the knees. If you wear an A-line petticoat under a rectangle skirt, your hip area will be saggily sad, while your skirt your hem area will look weird because there is a sudden poof and then a drop where the petti ends.

On most other skirt designs (tiered, A-line, circle, trapezoid), the skirt opens out gradually, the poof happens closer to the knees rather than at the hips.
- On these other skirts you will need an A-line petti. If you try to stuff a cupcake petti under one of these skirts your hip area will be overstuffed, and your hem area will be limp


So. The "tiered circle petticoat" will have a lot of poof in the hem, but very limited poof in the hip area. They definitely don't work for rectangle skirts.
They *might* work for other skirt styles, but in general it's easier and uses less fabric to use a circle skirt only for the top tier and then gathered rectangles for the bottom tiers.


The reason organdy and soft tulle petticoats are popular is because lolita is a fashion, not a costume you put on for a few hours and then never wear again. Comfort is a very big deal if you're going to be wearing those clothes a lot while doing everyday things. Organdy and soft tulle are soft and easy to sit on, and cleaning them is as easy as tossing them in the washing machine. They also don't wear out as quickly as stiff tulle, although you can starch stiff tulle once it's worn out, nobody wants to do that on a daily basis, it's easier to replace your petticoats every 2-3 years.

>>7972716

If you want to avoid elastics, since you can sew, the shortcut way would be to snip the existing elastic out of the petticoats you already have, and then attach a regular skirt waistband (same waistband as you would sew for any of your costumes).

Dips and crevices:
- first, you're never going to get all the fabric in certain skirt styles completely smoothed out. The rectangle ones in particular will always have fabric folds because it's gathered at the waist. Ditto tiered skirts.
- second, make sure you actually have enough poof. Check to make sure it's not the wrong shape petti for your skirt or the fabric being too heavy.

- Third. You can make an underskirt that goes over your petticoat and under your lolita skirt. Make it out of a stiff material that doesn't wrinkle or drape, it will cover the dips and crevices in your organdy petticoats so that your skirt lies smooth on top.

http://animematsuri.com/4166/angelic-pretty-is-for-the-princess-in-you/

This made me barf in my mouth a little. I just wanted some information about what AP is doing at the con, but instead this shit.

>>7972741
>sixteen years before Alfonso Cuaron’s classic movie, The Little Princess

This disgusts me the most. That movie is a fucking adaptation of a book from 1905, not an original work.

>>7972776
And the movie wasn't even that good, not compared to the book.

>>7972776
That was my first thought too.

>>7972776
>>7972788
The movie was shit, and it isn't a classic. The BOOK is a classic and it has nothing to do with Angelic Pretty.

>>7972687
Yeah, I am wondering if I should wait because a lot of baby dresses seem to go down significantly? Especially holiday prints? If I could grab it for 150 a few months from now I'd rather, it seems kind of unpopular. But I like it so much, I'm pretty torn.

>>7972741
>written by John Leigh
Yeah, I'm not surprised

>>7972618
see >>7972444
If you look on the facebook page too, it kind of seems like the owner just dropped off the face of the planet in august or september, and people are filing paypal disputes against her (and winning)

>>7972618
I had an issue when I ordered a petticoat in February and it didn't arrive until mid-May. It had to do with the factories not fulfilling her orders, and I did like the final product, but I wouldn't order from her again.

>>7970941
A seagull run guide would actually be really helpful if people kept the saltiness to a minimum. Y'all have helped me a whole lot in the last year.

>>7972741
>The pressure of modeling
Thanks John.

>>7973010
We've been talking about making a guide since forever but nobody's gotten around to actually doing it. If nobody makes one by next week I'll probably do that seeing as finals will be over for me by then.

>>7973017
Please do. I'm still new to the fashion and could always use some pointers. Plus I'd rather hear it straight than be told that "anything goes."

>>7973017
Please start it! Maybe make a google doc so other people can add?

>>7973047
>>7973029
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pZ6OOdQCTLkLoiFsak590IM8Jnm1lqfi4Zcu57zWMj4/edit?usp=sharing

I've started the doc. If this gains any traction I'll make a new thread for it.

>>7971612
There is so much drama here on whether things are accepted as sub styles or themes here, though.

What's the story behind this dress?

quality of anna house blouses? tempted to order http://www.annahousefashion.com/detail.asp?catid=76395&subcatid=0&pdtid=685460&private= in black with detachable sleeves, but something is putting me off

What are good places to look for rare dresses?
I'm already looking at
>yahoo! auctions
>mbok
>Lacemarket
>LSE
>egl-comm-sales

Did I forget an important place?

>>7973266
Closet child.

>>7973266
>>7973272
Alice Fururun, Fairy Angel, Maiden Clothing, Usagiyouhinten.
Maiden Clothing tends to be overpriced but I've seen some rare dresses pass by on there.

>>7973266
>>7973272
>>7973275
Tokyo Alice on Rakuten

New loli here... on the topic of petticoats, what would be the best one to order for this JSK?

>>7973266
All of the *other* Japanese second hand stores? Grand Bazaar, Usagiyouhinten, Maiden Clothing, Violet Blue, Tokyo Alice, Fairy Angel...people like chibi_tenshi and takoyaki co might be worth keeping an eye on as well.

>>7973275
I'd say usagi and tokyo alice are more overpriced than maiden.

>>7973256

It came out as part of a three-way collab:
- Baby the Stars Shine Bright (lolita brand)
- Volks (BJDs)
- Nakamura Asumiko (mangaka, contributes to GLB and writes yaoi and shoujo manga).

In terms of following, all three are heavyweights in their own field.

pic is the BJD that came out with it. This specific doll is Lieselotte, very popular head mold. Even without clothes/collab she gets scalped a lot. Basically, they threw all the most popular things they could put together into one collaboration.

So pretty much if you were very, very, very heavily into both BJDs and lolita you would either be scrambling for funds to buy the 93,000yen doll and the 52500yen OP and 11340yen bonnet when all of them came out at once way back then (there's also a ginger tea doll, OP and bonnet), or trying to pay someone, anyone, 200000yen for the OP now, ages after the release.

btw the print series that came out with it is Marionette in My Closet Room. I think most lolitas said it's fug and full of empty spaces, but it sold out anyway and doesn't come up for sale often. BJD x lolita people probably bought that series up too.

>>7973319
>Nakamura Asumiko
I love her stuff, coponicus no kokyuu was really great.

>>7973264
Anna House is quite oldschool. once bought 2 of their long sleeved blouse, the sleeves were very very wide (and not like those princess sleeve ones). overall quality is decent, they just have an oldschool feel. most lace is like cotton embroidery.

>>7972505
I got the JSK III in blackxred. Pruany ended up managing to cancel my order, though.
>>7972864
What do you think was shit about it? I have to admit I haven't read the book, but I love the movie.

>>7972716
I'm really wondering though, how do you actually make a cupcake shaped petti? I don't own one, I usually create the shape by stacking a shorter A-line on top of another. How do you do it? I have about 10 yards or organza and a ruffle foot lying around, but I can't figure it out.

>>7973249
Is it really? The only disputable ones seem to be ero, steampunk, cyber, and maybe guro. I've started making some doodles for a guide, I'll just post it for feedback if there is any interest.

>>7973410

deja vu, I could've sworn I answered this in the last thread.

Anyway, you did hit the nail on the head, even if you don't know it.

The point of a cupcake petti is that the widest poof should happen around your hips. So instead of an A-line petticoat being, eg- 3 tiers going 1.5-3-6 metres wide in each successive tier, for a cupcake petti, the first tier right under the waistband is already ~3 m and then, the final tier starts around your hips or a bit above, and goes down to your knees/hem.

Stacking a shorter A-line does the same thing, the final tier on your shorter A-line starts around your hips, which is what provides the cupcake shape. The longer A-line starts its poof below your hips and does the job of continuing to poof the skirt where the shorter A-line has ended.

>>7973495
I might have missed that. So basically, something like pic related? Sorry for crude drawing.

>>7972788
>>7972864
That feel when its one of my favorites.

The book is good too if you can stand the heavy handed Christian allegory.

>>7973564

Yes. Note especially the second layer starts at your hips or a bit higher.

Also you can add an extra half tier to the outermost layer, it helps a lot of rectangle skirts to, well, not look so cupcake (same reason AP sews a built-in tulle petticoat into their dresses).

>>7973627

*second tier starts at your hips, sorry

>>7973627
Alright, thank you very much! I'll give it a shot.

>>7973423
Do it.

Which body type is best suited for high waist JSKs?

I'm 155cm tall, 84-62-86 for measurements if that helps

>>7973785
And underbust is 72cm idk if that helps too

>>7973423
Please do! And yeah country Lolita and sailor Lolita (and other small subsets) get lots of flack on here . There are people who firmly believe they're their own separate sub styles and then there are people who insist that they're not. Frankly I don't care either way, but some people have very strong opinions about it.

>>7973785
I'm about the same measurements and high waist JSKs make you look a bit taller because of the higher waist.

especially with Meta I prefer the high waist version, as regular JSKs and OPs from them are longer in the bodice part than other brands.

>>7973838
Thank you!!! I would love to look taller, so I'll go for the high waist cut instead

>>7973785
Generally people who are skinny and have slender limbs, or people who have a high waist anyway. I look pregnant in most high waisted stuff and have similar measurements to you, but it depends on torso/limb proportions

How can I do casual lolita? I am trying to ease friends and family into the style slowly, but I always feel like I am too ott.

>>7974096
Wear a more basic skirt and jsk, style your own hair, keep accessories simple, wear a cutsew or a thin turtle neck with nice detailing, solid tights

>>7973423
Please also don't include Wa, Qi, Han, Military, Guro, Deco, Nurse etc
Shiro and kuro are themes, pinku and mizuiro should not be included either.

I'd do two drawings for each main style (sweet, gothic, classic) : the normal and ott version of each. Then punk and old-school as main styles.
Then in a substyles or common themes I'd add sailor, country and hime.
And then in a male category I'd put ouji and kodona.

>>7974096
Hellolace is on point : http://hellolace.net/styles/casual

>>7974117
Hello lace isn't on point with shit.

>>7974113
>ouji and kodona
Those are the same...

>>7973306
looks bell to me. but i think it'd work with a-line and cupcake as well. depends on the rest of the coord.

>>7974130
>bell
>and cupcake
those are the same, anon, just different names.

>>7974113
Ouji really isn't lolita though. I don't know why its always included in lists of "lolita" substyles. It has a someone almost kinda similar feel to it, but that's it. Please don't include it.

>>7974143
It is lolita, it's just a tomboy style. It's considered lolita in Japan.

Ugh I just had the most fucking frustrating experience with Hotter.uk. I ordered shoes from them over a month ago and was promised they'd be mailed at the end of November. What actually happened is that they kept my $140 and rubbed their asses on it and when I mailed them they said they weren't actually going to have those shoes in stock this year. Like, they didn't even tell me until I emailed.

Now I'm fucked because I can't find any pair of blue shoes that match my wardrobe. Help anons! I need dark blue shoes that aren't royal blue and aren't navy, they need to match the color of the blue Grazia Crown JSK.

>>7974240
They need to be loliable but preferably a normalfag brand which is comfortable and has a low heel. I like shoes that aren't strict pumps so covers higher up the feet.

Pic related, the shoes I got fucked with.

>>7973306
>>7974130
Looks like a clear a-line to me. But if you're new, it doesn't hurt to get both shapes if you can afford it.

>>7974096
Outer wear is key, I have some nice cardigans and jackets that I wear over my toned down dresses. I've also found that florals are the one print that my family/SO never comment on.

Which style are you going for? Sweet, classic or gothic

Thinking of opening a webshop, but hate PP. They've repeatedly put limits on my account in the past when selling on egl/lse/lm and I don't really want to deal with them further. The new 180 day claim period is also terrifying, because it opens so many potential scam doors.
And customer service sucks, because they just give you the same runaround answers over and over and then do whatever they want regardless.

Anyway, I've been researching alternatives and was wondering FOR YOU, LOLITAS SPECIFICALLY is there a platform for payments that you'd trust that isn't PP? I've been looking at Stripe primarily.

>>7974096
As everyone said, wear a plain blouse (like almost office lady chiffon esqe) and a standard cardigan over your dress/skirt. For a hair accessory, use a simple headband (IW) or a beret. For shoes, you can use oxfords, plain tea parties, or boots. I guess don't choose a loud design to wear around your family?

>>7972741
John please go away.

>>7974123
>ouji and kodona
>Those are the same...
They are not, it is saying like Sweet Lolita and Classic Lolita are the same. Ouji is dressing like a little prince, Kodona about dressing like an adult in the victorian era.

>>7974337
Uh no, you're confusing Kodona with EGA(or maybe dandy). Either way, Kodona and Ouji are interchangeable terms. Kodona is one used exclusively in the west and Ouji is the Japanese term for the style. It means prince so it's been getting used in the west much more often now since it makes more sense. I'm not entirely sure where Kodona came from but it can be loosely translated as a play on words for "tomboy style".

>>7973138
So I misread the post that I was originally replying to and started making a new handbook instead of just a style guide, but would anyone be willing to work with me on that alongside of the guide as a sort of accompaniment? Or could we possibly merge it together?

Honestly I'm just excited to start rewriting the handbook if anyone else is up for it as well.

>>7974113
Kuro/shiro were legit substyles in early lolita
(also maybe include dandyism?)

>>7974343
I can help illustrate it if you want :)

>>7974345
Emphasis on the past tense. Were.

>>7974350
So, they can be included as a subset of old-school.

>>7974350
It's worth mentioning though

>>7974342
Plastic Tree.
One of the members said his style was the mix of an adult body (otona) and child-like soul (kodomo). Combined, kodona.

>>7974303
classic.
Based on what others have said I already dress casually - I prefer boleros to blouses, wear simple shoes, simple hair (always my own), floral or solid patterned jsks. I guess I am just afraid because I normally wear jeans and a t shirt and Im not sure how to make the jump...

not a lolita but I bought myself some knee-high thin socks/stockings and they aren't as snug as when I got them. How would I hand-wash them to make them snug and clean again? I assume you guys own something like that yourself so I'm asking here.

>>7974358
Ah that's right. Either way though, ouji lolita existed before this and what the other anon is referring to has been called EGA for longer than plastic tree or that term existed. Special snowflake terms don't make a style, his shit was just punky VK ouji.

>>7974369
Well, technically he wasn't trying to apply a name to anything but his own clothing. But back then, GLB translations were sparse, so people misinterpreted, thought that "kodona" was the style of clothing (rather than his personal style) and ran with it. Kind of how we ended up with ero, as well.

Does anyone know whether Amazon Checkout lets you use Amazon giftcards?

>>7974369
Maybe we could have a section for styles similar/related to lolita? (aristocrat, dandy, otome, kodona/ouji etc)

>>7974386
I could test it for you if I knew what it was and I didn't have to actually buy anything, I have plenty of amazon GC balance.

Any recommendations for natural curly/wavy wig? Dark brown or blonde is fine.
Not lockshop/GLW please...

Is it rude to ask a seller if an item is still available for sale? The auction ended but nobody bought it, at least not on lacemarket.

>>7974419
I don't think so, I've done it before, and it's better to ask because sometime you can get a good deal.

>>7974409
Speaking of Lockshop, does anyone know if Choke's supplier has a taobao store or somewhere I can buy them or are they exclusive to Lockshop?

>>7974409
I really like brightlele on rakuten, I have 3 wigs from them and they all look really natural

>>7974419
I've done that and the person sold me the item. I don't think it's rude at all.

>>7974394
That's my problem too, I want to get some stuff from mirukuma and she uses AZ Checkout and it would be great if I could use my GC balance as I have ~$200 worth but I don't want to take the risk and have to pay using real money because I'm saving for new releases

>>7974437
I know that it usually doesn't ask for CC info on amazon.com if you are using giftcards. Go through the purchase process and stop if you don't think the gift cards will work

>>7974372
Oh I know, I was just saying that westerners used it in a special snowflake way, also Ero can go fuck itself.

How would I make a pleated lolita skirt such as this?

>>7974470
box pleats

>>7974349
sure! shoot me an email

>>7974441
>Ero can go fuck itself.
how about you go fuck yourself

>>7974409
gkyouko on taobao has a really nice dark brown wavy wig. I've had mine for over a year and wear it more than any other wig. It's so great and always brushes out fantastically.

>>7974495
Sent

>>7974431
Oh thanks for the recommendation they have some I like a lot and good prices!
Can I ask how long it took to get to you?
>>7974501
Thank you, I'll look at them whenever I make another taobao order

>>7974470
http://sew-loli.livejournal.com/1760638.html
I found this tutorial but I am really confused, can someone explain how I would figure out how much fabric I need?

>>7974519
Oh I forgot to clarify, I understand what is going on, but not sure how much fabric I would need for a 75 cm waist. I am using tartan so I also need to accommodate for matching up the pattern.

>>7973423
>>7973664
>>7973821
>>7974113
I've roughly sketched out "the big three" so far, pic related. I was thinking to have these as the main styles, however, I feel that ouji could go with those, see >>7974146.
Then substyles: sailor, country, hime, punk
and common themes: OTT (one for each main style), shiro, kuro, oldschool (?), casual (?)
Bonus related fashions: EGA

And maybe a sidenote at the end about ero being controversial and shit. How does that sound? If anyone wants to volunteer drawing one of the styles, feel free to claim them.

>>7974495
also sent you an email.

>>7973409
Not the anon you're replying to, but the movie essentially added lots of dramatic bits that the book didn't have. The book had a great simplicity to it that I feel was more powerful than **drama**

>>7973570
I never picked up on Christian allegory in the book, explain?

>>7974440
I just tested it and unfortunately it doesn't show your GC details only card details so I don't think paying with GC is possible which is a shame

>>7974535
what the fuck is this tumblr art style shit

>>7974535
Their noses are all disgusting, and what is wrong with classics legs?

>>7974541
What exactly is a tumblr art style?

>>7974547
Not that anon but its a style that promotes ugly and deformed characters as being cute rather than adhering to traditional beauty standards.

I quite like your ones but it appears that classic is overweight, you need to fix her proportions in legs and a more defined waist/smaller bust. I am not against plus sized people, but unhealthiness should never be a desirable, common, or idealised standard.

>>7974547
anything amateur, basically.
5 years ago the catchall insult for a really unrefined art style was to accuse the artist of being from deviantart, but now the role of festering cesspool has fallen to tumblr.
Don't get me wrong, deviantart is still a festering cesspool, but nobody defends deviantart anymore because literally everyone knows it's shit.

>>7974559
>>7974562
Well, fair enough, I suppose. I fixed them a little, hopefully it looks better now.

>>7974579
Those are actually cute

>>7974431
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/brightlele/item/h602/
ended up getting this wig.
Thanks for the recommendation again! Super cute. :3

>>7974579
Forgot to mention, if you want to contribute, feel free to email me with the style you want, and your contact info.

>>7974535
Other drawfag anon here - here's my take on it. I tried to do more iconic-looking outfits than actual interesting ones, what does /cgl/ think?

>>7974684
>cleavage

>>7974686
I see Mary Magdalene do those kinds of bodices sometimes but you're right - that's an awfully low neckline. I'll erase the titty line if you want.

>>7974694
Assuming that newbies will see it, that would be for the best. I like Gothic though

>>7974694
The ankle socks are way too sweet and the dresses on the gothic and classic girls are too short.
Agreed about the cleavage too, maybe give the sweet girl some wristcuffs?

>>7974686
>>7974700
Should I keep the ankle socks?

>>7974703
Woah! Sorry, didn't see your suggestion before. I wanted to show that it's okay to wear ankle socks despite what lolita-tips says so I moved them to the sweet lolita.

>>7974734
Super cute now! Though I think the classic girl is a little too plain, idk what it is, maybe the shoes?
If you want to add in some simple accesories like a pearl necklace on the classic girl and a cross pendant on the gothic girl it would be good too!

>>7974734
>>7974579
I like the idea of including main style/theme illustrations by several artists, it shows the variety.

>>7973138
>>7974579
>>7974734
since we're accumulating some stuff, new thread about the hand book and guide?
>>7974770

>>7974766
I like that too, actually. It'd be nice to have at least two per style.

>>7974361
I'd start by wearing more fitted tops with cute detailing and occasionally breaking out some comfy dresses depending on where you are.

I'm in a similar boat right now as I'm changing my wardrobe over from all black into more jewel tones and dresses.
Currently living in the jeans/hoodie combo.

I've been doing my buying in this order:
Shoes and nice handbag in neutral colors(brown & cream)
Tops for jeans (peter pan collars, cute jumpers, simple blouses, fitted jackets)
Tights
Dresses
-Cotton maxi dresses for summer
-Chunky knit and texture for winter

I just got my tracking number from CC and it looks like it's a reused one from last year. How long does it take to refresh in the system? The japanese site and USPS website are also giving me different years and zipcodes from when it was last used(japanese site says it was in my zipcode area) I guess I'm being a little obsessive but I'm leaving in a few days so I want to know where my item is.

does anyone know where I can get this top? i guess it's not totally lolita but I found it in a lolita coord
I can't find it anywhere on the One Spo shop

>>7972776
I mean if they were going to mention a film, why didn't they do the first one with Shirley Temple?

>>7974535
>7974535
I adore the Gothic one, the classic does have some weird legage, but you did say they were quick sketches.

New Lolita General over here >>7976887

>>7974535
Gross