/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7954639
part 2 of 3

>girl who bitched at best friend asks her if she could borrow her Iron Gate OP
>best friend politely declines, but offers her another Moitie piece
>girl says she's only interested in Iron Gate
>friend tells her she's sorry, but it's one of her most prized pieces and it's too rare to risk something bad happening to it
>girl gets all "so, what you're saying is that you don't trust me?"
>friend starts feeling bad and meekly says "I don't even like my closest friends wearing it unless I'm with them"
>girl says "wow, it's great to see that even the so-called nice lolitas are all bitches when it really comes down to it"
>she posts an entire wall of text on tumbr about how two-faced a "certain someone" in her community is and how people only like her because she has lots of brand and she's hideous without make up (she's never even seen her without it)
>around same time best friend starts getting extreme anon hate on blog
>other friend puts an IP tracker on it to narrow down who it could be
>anytime she gets anon hate it shows the same person from a few towns away visited her ask box
>check bitchy girl's face book, says she lives in that town
>confront her about it
>she denies everything
>give up and decide to just avoid her
>fast forward a few months
>at con with her, sharing hotel room with three other people from our comm
>her and I go shopping in the dealer's room then go back to the hotel to drop off everything we just got
>come back a few hours later to find three of the things best friend bought missing
>summon all roommates and discuss, turns out one of them had two people from our comm in the room while she got ready to go to the meet we always have at said con, including the girl we have problems with
>other girl she invited was helping her in the bathroom, so she was completely alone in our hotel room for a good ten minutes
>friend is very anti-drama, so very few people in our comm are aware of her issues with the girl, so she had no idea

>>7954641
3 of 3

>go over everything in room, turns out more of her belongings are missing, including her $200 hair straightener and her Gloria JSK (AatP one)
>roommate calls friend rooming with the girl and asks if the missing items are in the room, turns out everything is there except for Gloria
>best friend breaks down, two roommates stay with her while the other and I go to deal with the thief
>try meet up first thinking there's no way she'd be retarded enough to go there
>sure enough, bitch is full retard
>there's about 15-20 people there, it's held in a little park right outside the convention building
>roommate and I loudly announce the situation and name her by name
>she tries to leave, but I grab her by the wrist and stop her demanding an explanation
>she tries to tell me that it's just a coincidence that she happens to have the same items that were stolen straight from our room after she was there and that she bought Gloria right before the con
>I say if that's true, then she would have the proof on some website or another
>she won't show any proof, but insists she bought it from LJ
>I go on the LJ comm right on my phone in front of her and everyone and that exact version of Gloria hasn't been sold on it in months and the buyer was not her
>she says she doesn't need any of this and tries to walk away again
>I tell her if she leaves we're going straight to the police
>we end up making her change out of it in the con bathroom with six of us standing outside the door in case she tries to run
>girl is kicked out of comm and posts all about it on Tumblr, saying how this was totally proof of the clique mentality lolitas apparently all have because all she did was "anger the queen bee" and ended up triggering "a witch hunt"
>people in comm who used to hang out with her tell us all about how much she hated my friend to a very creepy degree and talked shit about her every meet

She's very active in the cosplay community now

Holy shit anon that was amazing

jfc what is wrong with people.

Holy shit. Who is this? Name and shame, bitch has it coming and then some.

>>7954639
...Becky?

>>7954657
if only so she can't get too far in the cosplay community
you owe it to others to not let this shit happen when you know it's happened before

That's insane. Who the hell is it? What comm?

That's fucked up yo.

>plsbebullshit.jpg
Actually, don't. Things have been pretty boring without PT and MB

>>7954767
No this is just too horrible I want it to be fake. We dont need drama.

>>7954648
>>7954641
>>7954639
Holy level of fuck! God this reminds me of that other story, danger chan? Fire chan? Its the lolita who tried to steal shit by climbing out the bathroom window. Anyone have caps?

>>7954666
this.

>>7954779
I remember that, when they went to a theme park or something and there was a confrontation in a carpark? it's on getoffegl somewhere i think

Danger chan. She wore nu rocks with fire on them and tried to steal other peoples clothing. It is in the archives, I will go and try to find it.

>>7954782
It was on 4chan in one of these threads. I can't find the caps anywhere. She called the other lolita's her maids too.

>>7954779
I remember that too! I think it was danger-chan. It might be in the archives.

>>7954648
>>7954641
>>7954639
Holy fucking shit. I would have destroyed her. Props to your best friend for not losing her shit and punching her to the moon.

>>7954788
Found it. Posting story for lols;

This started awhile ago and is still on going today. Thought I would share.

> 2011, Been into lolita 2 years by now. Have a healthy obsession with BTSSB/AATP but also wear bodyline now and then as wardrobe fillers.
> Been in new comm for roughly 4 months at this point, always new members coming and going.
> In come's Danger-Chan. Danger-chan is a newbie lolita on the edge. She don't follow no rules, she smokes in lolita, she's a rebel on the edge.
> Everyone hate's her but don't say no to her joining.
> Month 6 we all go to a meet up but not before Danger-chan makes us all wait an extra hour due to being "lost"
> Everyone is dressed nicely at the meet, good wigs, decent coordinates, range of sweet lolita's and a few gothic's. I'm wearing a gothic classic black BTSSB coordinate and offbrand bonnet. All stand talking when BOOM!
> Danger-chan jumps over to use and glomps a member of the group, pulling off her wig in the process.
> "ANON CHAN, SO NICE TO FINALLY MEET YOU DESU! SO KAWAII-NYE?!"
> After she get's pushed off, she get's yelled at for boundaries and is told never to glomp again.
> Danger-chan huff's and stands by near.
> Dear god what is that smell? Danger-chan don't wear deodorant, she's too extreme. Far too real for us mere normal rori's.
> Danger-chan latches to me like bff's and proudly say's how awesome her coordinate is. She is really small with emo brown hair wearing a Clair's accessories black hello kitty headband. A white short sleeve school shirt, sweat stained with a polkadot green skirt she bought from the best brand ever milanoo. She finished off this look with no petticoat, gray what used to be white socks and her cool awesome orange flame new rocks.
> The meet was quite nice actually, apart from Danger-chan trying to act hardcore all the time and back chat people who asked for photos but of course she HAD to shout and rage because again, so cool.

Part 1 / ???

name and shame OP.
this bitch just made me so angry I could take a plane to anywhere in the world just to kick her face.
God I want to steal all her stuff to see how she would feel.
I want to set her on fire, the put it out by stepping on her.

I have anger management issues.

>>7954794

> End of adventure, time for photo's.
> 3 girls have cam's and we all take turns taking photo's of each other coordinates however Danger-chan is apprently a world class photogrpaher, KNOWN by the whole world and must take the BEST photo's of us all.
> We let Danger-chan take her extreme photos as she poses in weird positions like a rock star as she takes photo's.
> Girls laugh thinking she's making a joke "SHUT UP, I;m trying to work" realize she's being serious. Most can't stop laughing but she takes her extreme photo's anyways.
> Her turn for photo's.
> When she's not sticking her middle finger up or her tongue out like Miss Cyrus, she's making porn poses like a sex goddess and makes people take over 80 photos of her of different extreme poses.
> When we finish we set the cam's on timer and take group photo's.
> Danger-chan stands on end and sticks her middle finger up in all photo's.
> We all stop and tell her to stop it. Danger-chan shouts at us and tell's us we are trying to control her flames but we tell her stop of gtfo and she poses for 2 group photos without flipping off.

> Week later and we all get photo's back from everyone.
> Danger-chan spent the week asking where the photo's are and we tell her over and over we have them all posted up on the Saturday after the meet so we can all go online together and look as a group.
> Next to all the photos from Danger-chan were too blurry and dark, only 4 out of the 200+ she took were useable but they were put in a separate folder so she could look.
> We only use 2 photos of her, the only 2 she wasn't swearing in and don't use any of the group photos of her swearing either.
> Everyone is happy- No wait, I lie... Danger-chan is on fire.

> Danger-chan starts swearing badly, asking where her "fucking photo's" are. We show her the folder explaining all her pics were too dark/blurry and unusable and we kept only the ones she did not swear in.

Part 2 / ???

>>7954800
> Danger-chan calls us age player whores, user's, art thieves, cunt's- oh then she reports our page for "stealing her art" then leaves the group.
> Gives us all bad comments on our indivdual photo's in which she tells me my BTSSB bonnet which was offbrand was an overprices piece of shit, despite I bought it for $15 and say's my gothic coordinate is age play for funerals. Mmm such loving warm comments.
> We delete her photos and photoshop her out of the group photo's and all block her on fb.

> 2012, same comm with most of the original members and a few new faces. Went from a smallish comm to roughly 20 member's.
> I'm no a group admin.
> Don't wear lolita as much, only wear it to meets. Wear mainly IW now, Bodyline and some BTSSB.
> Get a message on fb.
> Danger-chan. Explains how sorry she was, how she was just a stupid teenager with problems at home. Decided to add her see she has improved but not much, she at least wears nice black wigs now and actually headbows.
> Talk to group, we give her a chance to come back.

>Danger-chan ask's if she can borrow a coordinate off me and my friend for the meet, as she does not want to look Ita.
> My friend, lets call her Bunny, and I say yes and meet her an hour before the meet with our wardrobes at Bunny's hosue for ehr to pic an outfit.
> Danger-chan seems nice, still has an attitude and we set her a coordinate.
> She want's a purple outfit so bunny chan loans her a lavender AP dress and matching bow. I loan her a pair of offbrand shoes, bodyline blouse, BTSSB heart bag and parasol and another friend who showed up at the house, lets call her Marble, loans her a nice lavender wig and some star clips.
> Danger-chan actually looks incredibly cute and we all take photos of her before we leave for the meet.

> At the meet Danger-chan ask's if we all call her "Lavender" so we do.
> Zoo meet, rained the day before but we are all pre-paired for it. Warm day.

Part 3 / ???

>>7954803

> Danger-chan starts complaining her feet hurt from all the walking and shoes.
> I ask if anyone is a size 6, a fw people are and offer to trade shoes with her.
> The flames return as Danger-chan states she doesn't want to ruin her precious outfit, despite all the shoes would match.
> Danger-chan spends the meet acting like a queen. She MUST have this seat, she MUST only eat these types of food, she MUST takes photos of all the animals or risk forgetting them forever.

> We take out break. I'm twinning with Bunny and Marble, I'm wearing Black, Bunny white and Marble Red.
> Danger-chan spots this and says "Why didn't you make ME match you guys? Arn't I not pretty enough?!"
> Marble explains that we couldn't make a 4th of this outfit for we simply did not have it. Bunny explains we made it months in advance.
> LADY LAVENDER STATES "Well then one of you SHOULD have loaned me one of YOUR outfits! Why should I be alone?"
> Then oh Bunny, she foolishly says "Well, how can be all be dressed the same when you look like a princess?"

> Dear god help us.
> Danger-chan from this moment perks up and enchants herself with inner magic energy to become PRINCESS-Danger-chan!
> She spent the rest of the meet calling the 3 of us her sugoi-maids and making us carry her stuff. Marble and I refused but Bunny is so nice she does and only says "Its ok, let her have her moment"
> Then shit got serious for Princess-Danger-chan

Part 4 / ???

>>7954806
> Princess-Danger-chan suddenly realizes she has lost my parasol and begins to cry. She speaks so guilty about it so me and Marble go to find it.
> We find it but when we return 30 minutes later after taking forever to find it Bunny is walking over to us, bright red with second hand embarrassment and anger.
> Our dear Princess-Danger-chan spoke of how she owned this outfit we loaned her and how she spent ever so much money buying it. How she gave us the idea of triplet-ting and how we are dressed as her maids as she is out Princess.
> Marble looses her shit and calls her out publicly of how we loaned her the whole outfit, and even took photos of her at my home.
> "Did you now anon chan? Why you no rpove it nye?" We go to our bags to find the lovely almighty Princess-Danger-chan has deleted all the photos in our phones.
> Bunny flips and cries. Bunny says she thought it was a meaningful moment they had and how Princess-Danger-chan is acting like a nasty theif.
> "Oh bunny chan, don't weep for your Princess-Danger-chan. You just have to accept how amazing I am!"
> We all now loose our shit and kick her out of the comm there and then, not before marching her to the bathroom to change into her normal cloths.
> Marble brought them with just in case.
> We wait outside the bathroom for ages with no sign of our godly Princess-Danger-chan.
> The door is locked and 30 minutes pass.
> Its silent, we don't know if she's dead or anything.
> Bunny get a guard, opens door. Empty with only the petticoats on the floor, window open.
> She ran off, with our stuff out of a fucking window!!!

> We go back to the group and explain what just happened.
> Bunny cries, she just lost a $300 dress and headbow. I cry, I just lost my BTSSB stuff, Marble flips and runs to the car park.
> We hear screaming, Marble had tackled our goddess Princess-Danger-chan to the floor.

Part 5 / Part 6

> be newbie in a certain cosplay community
> meet very pretty girl who is mutual friends with some other friends
> seems sweet at first but slowly becomes more and more bitchy
> look past it, FB friends, talk alot, etc
> add her on tumblr, always complaining about how she's not pretty enough and stuffing her bra and then posting pictures in low cut shirts to get attention
> starts getting into lolita
> "im the best lol look at this brand im buying"
> no job
> is using her girlfriend's money to purchase coords
> calls girlfriend selfish for not buying her new outfits when girlfriend is only one in the apartment working
> says she doesn't want to work and shouldn't have to
> find out she was talking shit about me and several other of her 'good friends', saying we have everything handed to us and that we're soooo pretty and she hates us for it
> then turns around and talks about how much she admires us
> gets a mutual friend to make her a cosplay to match mine because she wants to sleep with me
> costume gets made, decides she doesn't want it now, never pays the girl who made it
> find out about all of this, cut her out of my life
> girl starts saying she's a victim in all this and that we are all bullying her
> uses tumblr to talk about all her 'sexual experience' and is basically one of those people who thinks it makes her cool to act mean and sexually promiscous
> girl gets matching hair cut and color to mine, friends notify me that she's going around talking about how much better she looks
> dont care
> mutual friend of all of ours dies
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>>7954809
> Marble looses it and slaps Princess-Danger-chan across the face.
> Princess-Danger-chan gets violent and tries to punch Marble back.
> Whole comm in shock as Princess-Danger-chan screams at us and calls us all stupid cunts in her lovely old school tone of voice. Oh how we missed the old her.
> She calls us all cum drinking elephants and says we all all fatty chans despite all being a size 8, however I am a size 10 now.
> The dress is covered in mud, the parasol is dirty and the bag in scratched. We actually call the cops who take her to the cop station and make her gives us our stuff back as we waited in the lobby.
> Yes, that's right 20 loli's waiting in the cop station to behold the glory of Princess-Danger-chan!!!
> We get our stuff and all leave to go eat pizza with the half of the comm who stayed late.
> Never hear from Princess-Danger-chan again.

After this meet we all saved up to replace Bunny's dress in pink since she loved pink more and ever since then the 3 of us became really close friends. We did not press charges but we became mega careful who we loaned our shit too.

A few months ago I saw our lordship wearing emo cloths at the mall with badly dyed red hair and gave her one hell of a look but it seems our princess did not recognize me, I am almost hurt by that.

Needless to say the tale of Princess-Danger-chan will live in our comm as a camp horror story for the remainder of our days as we burn our lavender marshmallows in tribute .

Part 6 / Part 6

And that's it.

>>7954813
> girl goes crazy and talks about how no one understands her feelings and threatening to kill girlfriend, who was closer to mutual friend
> starts having batshit episodes where she threatens to kill herself or goes after girlfriend with a knife
> still refuses to get job, isolates girlfriend from the rest of her friends
> girlfriend eventually wisens the fuck up thanks to the advice of now deceased mutual friend had given her before he died
> girl moves to live with her dad
> good riddance
> takes a bunch of ex-girlfriend's stuff with her
> ex girlfriend asks for her game systems back, girl makes a huge scene about being bullied and how ex girlfriend is a hypocrite
> still jobless
> selling all her lolita on LM now because she proudly calls herself a NEET

>>7954809
Oh god finish plz

>want to go to a loli meet abroad
> my best friend can't make it, I don't really want to go alone
> few months before I met a girl, let's call her Angelic
> since I'm about to go alone I ask Angelic if she would go with me. After a while she agrees and buys same tickets as me
> fast forward, we arrive, go out with girls from the local community for some dinner
> she's cheap as hell, orders only drink
> we all order actual food and drinks
> tfw she only eats chocolate she brought from her country, doesn't buy anything to eat or drink. I'm afraid she dehydrates so I politely ask her to buy something
> she buys cheapest water bottle to drink, later fills it with tap water
> at the event buys an expensive dress she's never gonna fit into
> tfw she wears AP but is too cheap to eat healthy

> I have to share a bed with Angelic. She doesn't take a shower or use deodorant
> I pray she doesn't raise her arms, she does, I almost faint

Also
> talks shit behind my back and when confronted she tells me racist things
> is extremely rude towards me

Never again.

Do you guys actually believe these stories without some kind of proof or pictures? Or at least other members of these comms chiming in?

Not that I don't love the dramu, but these sound kind of bullshit.

i find it so funny how lolitas give a shit about the smallest things. i wouldnt give a shit about the girl OP talks about enough to try to please her. shes the kind of person that would guilt trip and manipulate others for her own benefit. those types of people are cancer and should be removed completely. fuck trying to help her in any way.

>>7954668
Her real name is Stephanie, but she goes by Neko Gumi last I knew and has since moved to NYC. I know she goes to Katsucon, Otakon, Anime Boston, NYCC, and some others. As of now, she has this horrendous hot pink and lavender dye job and she mostly cosplays from Vampire Knight, Madoka, MLP, and Homestuck. She no longer wears lolita, but gutter-tier fairy kei abominations. She's skinny to the point where it's reasonable to suspect anorexia and wears shit tons of scene-esque make up.
>>7954791
Once we got the dress back to her, her attitude was more "I just want this crazy bitch kept away from me at all costs" than anything. She's usually forgiving to a fault, but she's never had a girl do something that awful to her.
>>7954799
That was more or less how I felt at the time. The sad thing is that before that happened, my friend had been dwelling on the fact this girl clearly didn't like her and asked us to tell her what she might have done wrong on multiple occasions. "She's obviously just jealous" did not suffice as an answer to her and she was convinced we were just trying to spare her feelings by not admitting what was wrong with her. That made my rage toward that cunt so much worse.

I've also had lolita stolen. Last year, I loaned one of my best friends my Puppet Circus and she gave me her Sugary Carnival. We had a massive falling out that shattered our entire friendship a few days later. I let two weeks pass by to let things cool down and messaged her on FB to see about getting it back. She told me she sold it after we fought since I told her I never wanted to see her again. She told me to keep SC. I contacted the girl she sold it to and asked her to demand a refund on the basis that it was stolen goods, but she refused since it was her dream dress. She spent hundreds and hundreds more than I did.

I ended up selling SC, but I only got $300 for it and I paid almost a grand for PC.

I've never hated someone so much in my entire life.

I've also had lolita stolen. Last year, I loaned one of my best friends my Puppet Circus and she gave me her Sugary Carnival. We had a massive falling out that shattered our entire friendship a few days later. I let two weeks pass by to let things cool down and messaged her on FB to see about getting it back. She told me she sold it after we fought since I told her I never wanted to see her again. She told me to keep SC. I contacted the girl she sold it to and asked her to demand a refund on the basis that it was stolen goods, but she refused since it was her dream dress. She spent hundreds and hundreds more than I did.

I ended up selling SC, but I only got $300 for it and I paid almost a grand for PC.

I've never hated someone so much in my entire life.

>>7955178
what a dick move. name and shame

>>7955178
Cant you do something or call the police or somewhere? It isn't right for your friend to sell your property. It is stealing.

>>7955178
haha, now you know her true colors. thats too bad

>>7955188
As tempting as that is, she would most likely give me shit for it. I posted a Face Book status all about the incident, so all of our mutual friends know about it. No one I'm good friends with talks to her anymore.

>>7955200
She is already a shit person, she deserves whatever fallout, if she won't give you your dress back.

>>7955178
close to 1k for a dress?

...How pretty is it?

>>7955204
It is puppet circus dude.

>>7955193
I've heard way worse theft stories where the police did jack shit, so I didn't bother. I also just wanted her out of my life completely and that would have prolonged that process.

The part I hate the most is that now I absolutely won't let anyone borrow anything of mine. Most lolitas I know at least share with close friends, but I don't even trust my best friend in the world with mine. Everyone's understanding, obviously, but I still feel bad.

>>7955204
http://www.lolibrary.org/node/5055

>>7955212
I hope you got it back at least

>>7955204
The cut isn't bad, but it's honestly nothing special. The print is what really makes it. It's from 2006 and rare as fuck, so it only sells a few times a year and never goes for less than $1000, even for the skirt in some colorways. It's the most sought after lolita piece alongside Iron Gate, which also goes for that much.

>>7955200
Man idk the least she could've done was to give you the money she got from the dress.

>>7955225
i hope AP eventually re-releases Puppet Circus.

>>7954885
shhhh, let us have our fun. maybe write your own.

>>7955219
Nope. The girl she sold it to refused to request a refund through PayPal to get it back to me.

>>7955226
Yes anon really should have done something about it, people need to be punished for their inappropriate behaviour or they will continue to do it.

>>7955237
No I mean like, getting it again by other means.

>>7954803
>age play for funerals
kek

>>7955244
Oh. No, I haven't replaced it yet, but I plan to. The version I had was my third choice anyway, so this time I'm going to try to get my first, which is the red OP.

>>7954817
That's one fucking wild tale.
But, the fact everyone got Bunny the dress in pink is really sweet.

>>7955228
I hope with all of my heart that they do this and have a new colorway of either navy or emerald.

>>7954817
I found the one post version if anyone wants to save it for their own purposes

>>7954817
HO-LY SHIT

>>7955117
>has since moved to NYC
Don't say that.

>>7955273
Thank you anon

>>7955178
>>7955237
Name and shame the girl she sold it to, too. Sounds like an unreasonable bitch.

>>7955212
>Valuing money over friendship
You people are weird.

>>7955332
Meh, if someone contacted me with that I probably would have done the same. How is she supposed to know this other bitch is telling the truth? Why didn't the other girl file a police report or something? I don't know, it just doesn't seem like the buyers business.

>At Anime Expo
>With good friend, we'll call her Lilly, and her friend who I haven't met, we'll call her CC
>Getting ready for convention in hotel room
>Lilly is Kirigiri, CC is in terrible attempt at Homura cosplay
>I'm putting Junko on in the bathroom
>The first thing CC says to me is "you did a great job stuffing your bra to make your boobs looks big, how many socks did you use for that?"
>I tell her I'm just wearing a push-up bra, my boobs are already big as it is, so I didn't need to do much
>She replies "Well, you look like a prostitute either way"
>I dismiss it as a joke and we make our way to the con
>After getting badges and schedules, we try to figure out what we want to do first
>Lilly suggests checking out the Dealer's Hall or Artist's Alley, I reply to that I would like to go to the Dealer's Hall first, CC agrees
>Wander the DH for a bit, see booth with lots of Nendoroids
>Buy the Stocking, Mami, and Homura ones, Lilly buys Monobear one
>CC mentions how she wished she had the money to buy one
>Lilly buys her a Homura Nendoroid, too
>Wander some more, see Asuka figure I'm in love with and buy it
>CC starts going on about how she wished she could afford all of these cool things
>Start feeling kind of uncomfortable
>Buy 4 Vocaloid figures at next booth, Lilly buys matching Kagamine twin figures
>CC asks me how much money I brought
>I tell her I save a lot and only go to two conventions a year, so I tend to have a lot of spending money
>She asks me again how much I have and insists I give her the exact number
>I tell her I don't feel comfortable telling her
>Go to next booth
>Feel my bag tugging a bit and look over
>CC is opening my wallet
>I ask her what the fuck she is doing and she says seeing how much money I have
>I demand she hand me back my wallet that second
>Start to panic because wallet has about $800 in cash and all of my cards
>She says when she's done counting

TBC

>>7955357
Cont...

>She takes $150 and asks if she can use it to buy shit
>I tell her no and to gie me my money back right now
>She throws it at me and calls me a dirty whore and says how clearly I whored myself out for all that money before storming away
>Lilly picks it up and apologizes to me profusely
>Tell her it's not her fault
>CC texts her an hour later to complain about what a mean prostitute I am
>Lilly calls her and tells her how crazy she's acting
>CC gets all of her shit and rooms with some guy she knew who was there
>She demands I give her her share of the room back, I decline

>>7955354
Unless you've known the person for your whole life or something, there aren't that many friendships that are worth emotional attachments to certain dresses and $300+

>>7955354
How is not wanting to lend someone a dress that costs hundreds to thousands of dollars valuing money over friendship? You sound like an entitled bitch.

>>7955365
>emotional attachments
Okay, that sounds more reasonable and fair, I didn't consider that part.

>>7955354
Let's see you lose something really valuable in both cost and personal meaning that you can't replace easily because someone decided to be a shitbag and then take the same risk a second time.

>>7955367
I mostly meant that, while I've been screwed over by "friends" too, I prefer trusting people I like, because their friendship is worth much more to me than the money would be. I just don't really have any good friends, so that's why.

>>7955356
I showed her pictures of me in it as recent as two weeks prior, sent her the link from where I bought it, and told her the other girl wouldn't be able to give proof that she bought it. She even acknowledged it been stolen in her response, so not believing me was by no means the issue. As to why I didn't go to police, see >>7955212 Like I said, I've heard way worse stories where the police did absolutely nothing, even with undeniable evidence of a theft.

Pay Pal mandates that the buyer has the right to a refund if they find out the item was stolen. All she had to do was request a refund. If I were in her exact situation, it wouldn't matter if it was my dream dress, I would have returned it. It's not like she was going to lose money or anything.

>>7955371
>their friendship is worth much more to me than the money would be
Their friendship should in no way be connected to you lending them shit

>>7955382
It should not be dependent upon that, no, of course not. Connected, maybe. Like I said, in my mind, friends should trust each other. Otherwise, what's the point? We probably have different definitions for the word "friend." In any case, this is only how I think, you must do what you think is right, and act as you see fit, of course.

>>7955354
Lending someone clothes in general isn't something you are necessarily expected to do as a friend, especially if you have expensive clothes.

>>7955305
welcome, have some more greentext crazy stories I've saved.

>>7955390
No, agreed; I would not expect anyone to do that for me. I'm just describing how I would act towards others, not how others should treat me. I'd lend you my clothes, if you were my friend. That's all.

>>7955389
Well, it's not necessarily only about trust not to fuck you over, rather things beyond their control. One of my friends let a good friend borrow a dress and it came back stained. Her friend felt really bad and offered to pay for the cleaning bills, but said stain never came out. Not wanting to risk shit like that doesn't make you a worse friend.

>>7955397
You said we were weird for "valuing clothes over money". Stop back peddling as if your initial post was in no way offensive.

>>7955354
If the friendship hinges on you lending them your stuff, it's a bad friendship.

Lending friends your stuff is like gambling your friendship. If something bad happens to something with sentimental value, it's bound to have negative effects on your interactions with that person in the future.

>>7955412
>Still bitter that friend sold two borrowed video games and a $100 worth game for $20.

Lending friends your stuff is a gamble because it hurts.

>>7955409
Yes, I realized that shortly after posting. It was offensive, I'm sorry. It just seemed very unlike myself, and I didn't consider your perspective in its entirety, that's why I used the word "weird." I didn't intend it as an insult, and it is not that weird, it's just different from how I think. Or thought. I can certainly see your point of view. I just would be so happy to have a friend to share things with.

>>7954817
That was a fucking wild ride and I enjoyed every minute of it hahaha. I'm so glad your comm could pitch in to replace your friend's dress.

>>7955354
I don't think that's fair, wouldn't you be pissed if someone borrowed your shit and didn't give it back/soiled it?
Like, seriously, let's say you have Honey Cake or whatever and your friend borrows it, and then conveniently forgets to give it back? Wouldn't you be pretty pissed that person broke your trust?

>>7955396
More please

>>7955426
>I just would be so happy to have a friend to share things with.
Honestly, the fact you're admitting you were wrong on 4chan is a sign you are far too innocent for a lolita friend. You would probably be crushed.

>>7955439
>Wouldn't you be pretty pissed that person broke your trust?
Yes, I'd be extremely hurt and angry with them for breaking my trust. But, in the end, to me, it is only money. Someone mentioned that there may be sentimental value too, which would be important. My point was that I'd rather choose to trust someone and possibly be hurt in the process. Money isn't very valuable to me, but friends are. If someone screws me over, I will then have the knowledge that they are not really a good person. And it is mostly their loss for losing a good friend who would have done many kind things for them as long as they treated me right in turn.

Accidents are another matter, too, so it is very tricky. I can certainly understand not wanting to lend your valuable things to others because the might become damaged, especially if it's a dress you love really much, or something. Even more so with all the guilt and drama it would cause with the other person. It is all very tricky...

>>7955378
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_of_stolen_goods

And even if the police usually dont do anything, you should still report it.

>>7955453
Hm, this is an interesting thought.
In the past, I got burned by lending money to a long time friend, so I swore it off. But in acuality it could be a good test of friendship I guess.
Interesting though

>>7955378

Sorry to burst your bubble anon, I would have made the same response just to get rid of you if I were the buyer. You're basically asking the buyer to screw the seller over and send her dream dress on to you, when (from her POV) you're an unknown person who contacted her out of the blue asking for her dress, whereas the selller she bought the dress from is someone she has just completed a $1,000 sale with reliably. Photos and such can be shooped. You really should have gotten the police involved, when she receives a phonecall from the law it'll be a lot harder to write you off as a kook or a potential scammer.

>>7955389
I trust my friends alright, but some things are just valuable to me, and I can't just lend said things to them, especially if it's an expensive item, because it cost me and if anything, lending clothes to friends is a really foreign concept to me so.

>>7955378
Still, if she had asked Paypal for a refund, wouldn't she have to prove it?

>>7955481
I doubt the police would call her, they don't really get involved. I had a similar problem, the person was dragged to court and got a minor sentence, but I never got my shit back.

>>7955453
I can see where you're coming from, but I'm not about to measure the worth of a friendship through an expensive item. You can generally tell a person's character well enough from observing them to know how smart that is without testing them. I would let my newest friend borrow a lolita piece before I'd let my best friend do so because I know my best friend can be careless and unreliable. She's still a good friend otherwise, and I'm not going to risk any negative feelings toward her with something I know has a chance to end poorly.

But you've said that you wish you had close friends, so I'm guessing you don't have a lot of experience in having other people be inconsiderate toward your possessions. It's sweet that you're so trusting, and I hope genuinely hope it doesn't bite you in the ass in the future, but it doesn't make you a bad friend to size someone up and know they aren't responsible enough to take care of whatever you lend them.

>>7955453
Lending out lolita to your friends is one of those things that seems really fun until you do it. I had to narrow my list of people who could borrow mine to two after having to deal with shit like...
>Getting it back weeks, in one case months, after agreed upon return date
>Damage to the dress, luckily nothing that wasn't repairable, but I did have to have one skirt fixed by a cosplayer friend
>People asking for clothes again even though they damaged them before and feeling way too awkward to say no
>Being expected to lend out shit whenever requested and being met with annoyance if I declined. When you lend people your shit a lot, they generally start to feel more and more entitled to it, it's just human nature.
>Extreme jealousy. I tried to keep lending out lolita to just a few people, but a few turned into about 15 because people I didn't feel as close to became jealous of my better friends.
>Fake friends. Everyone in the comm wants to get close to the girl who lets her friends wear her $700 dresses to meets, cons, photo shoots, etc. I got extremely popular because of it and when I stopped doing it so much, people stopped giving a shit.
>Strained friendships. It's hard to feel your best about someone when they've had one of your favorite dresses for 3 months and get very much on edge whenever you mention wanting it back.

So yeah, it's a lot worse in practice than it is in theory. I strongly recommend only doing it for the most elite of your friends.

>>7955453
I think that letting people borrow your stuff shouldn't be an indicative of how much you value your friendship. I mean, sometimes it's just money, but let's say I let someone borrow something that took me ages to get due to financial struggle/that item not being available easily or what have you, and they fuck it up by being careless with it, or they are complete dickheads and sell it because we had a fallout.

Honestly that girl betrayed anon's trust by doing that. You just don't sell something you borrowed from someone you called your best friend, especially if you -know- it's something that's coveted and is rare, especially because it looks like you're a fucking butthurt dickhead who clearly wanted to hurt your friend. Even if anon had a dress that belonged to that bitch, they're not on the same level. The rational thing to do was to give the dress back, get hers back in return, and then forget about the whole deal and move on with their lives.

I'd be pretty wary of letting people borrow my stuff too. That was a really shitty thing to do to someone no matter how mad you're at them. It's not your property so what right do you think you have to dispose of it?

As for the girl who bought the dress, eh I'd be bitter toward her but it ain't her fault. Although she was indeed in possession of stolen goods.

>>7955481
It's a pretty big IF that the authorities would even make a call. Posting links and screen shots and also proving a rarely sold dress has not been sold to the person who is was bought from would be legit.

>>7955481
When did I say anything about her shipping it to me? She would have to ship it back to the seller to get the refund. No one would have been screwed over. I was even able to give her the exact LJ listing I bought it from, that's not proof that can be edited. Also, I think that all of you people saying I should have gone to the police don't have a lot of experience dealing with them. Trust me, they would have done nothing and it would have been a waste of time. I have many friends who have dealt with way worse theft cases with way more evidence and all going to the police did was make the situation more enraging. Also, have you ever read other lolita theft related stories? In every single one I've ever read where the victim goes to the cops, again they do absolutely nothing even when it's an online scammer doing it at a large scale and there's undeniable evidence backing them.

Also, as stated, the girl completely believed me that it was stolen. She gave me a half-assed apology and everything. If she suspected I was lying, it would be one thing, but she 100% believed me.

>>7955484
I'm pretty sure that you actually can get a refund just period no matter what for any reason now that I think about it, regardless of whether or not it was stolen. I just know it's against the ToS to sell stolen items.

typical attention whore bitch drama

>>7955563
Oh this story makes me so sad, I dont even have to read the whole thing to remember it...

>>7955563
I have been waiting for this
dem onions

>>7955178
Why didn't you tell her to fucking give you the money for it then?

>>7954660
Hahah, I was thinking the same thing anon.

>>7955450
Mmmkay.

Why the hell is this thread in a /pol/ thread?

>>>/pol/39057071

>>7955574
They think we are degenerates because we wear weird dresses. pol is faget.

>>7955574
Ignore the nazis.

>>7955574
a fashion that is white girls pretending to be asians that are pretending to be victorian white girls
not weird at all.

>>7955574
That's a good question. Usually other boards only link our threads when we're talking about really disgusting shit.

>>7955603
Not sure what point you're trying to make? First of all, this board has been here for a decade, so it's not like the existence of lolitas is such a strange new concept that it warrants mention in a thread. Secondly, we're no weirder than the rest of this website, especially the nazi board.

>>7955611
Is pol the nazi board?

>>7955563
And now I'm left with this weird feeling of d'aww, sadness, and anger.

Good goyim. /pol/ are evil nazis! Remember the six million!

>>7955656
Pol aren't nazis, they are a bunch of trolls.

>>>/pol/39059495

Ummmmm did we just get raided by pol

>>7955646
it's a board for discussing politics

>>7955692
>>>/pol/39059912

>>7955117
I think I know who this is, she was a the Misako tea party last winter and during the Q&A she would not for the life of her stop talking.

>>7955682
Explains some of the responses in the cringe/horror stories thread right now.

>>7955396
damn I was here when she told this

>>7955603

I actually think it's kinda hot... as long as the girls are cute, obviously. And are actually girls.

>>7954639

Die in fire, degenerates

>>7955597
>>7955591
>>7955646

You goyim are just paranoid, nobody is raiding you.

>>7955737
but /pol/ this fashion is totally in line with your views. It's an non-liberal fashion which is very deterring to black people and helps the beautiful white race assert their dominance and superiority.

>>7955734
>>7955739

I take that back, I thought this was a cross dressing thread.

There is nothing wrong with women dressing decently.

>>7955748
We dun goofed guys. Wrong threads.

>>7954818
bitch

>>7955705

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mfLvaSWdyo

Have you seen the video?

>>7955575
hoooooooly shit. It frightens me that people that stupid even exist. She was obviously mad jelly that the OP had a supportive bf and was thin.

About 4 years ago a lolita friend (just through lolita) stayed in my room during a convention. It was about $50 a person in total. On monday she suddenly left before paying me. When I called to find her for her share, she said her mom had to pick her up. (She was about 19-20 at the time.)

I asked her to PP me the money. A few days passed and she told me she couldn't yet but she would. A few weeks passed and then it turned into her and her family were having money problems. Finally, after months, she stopped replying to me. I sent her messages since then asking her to firmly pay me back but she igored them and never paid me. Still bitter as hell to this day, especially since she still blows money on lolita and conventions often.

She lives in a neighboring state and I am going to the same convention as her this coming summer. But I don't think there is anything I can do.

>>7955228
I bet they will, but it'll be massive in line with their newer releases and I won't be able to buy it. ;_; Though it might bring down the price of the old release, at least.

>>7954648
This was a very nice copy pasta anon. That or I'm getting a wicked case of dejavu.

>>7955574
Oy vey, the goyim know

>>7955603
assuming all lolitas are white girls lol

>>7955770
what fresh hell is this?

>>7955574
I love the sperglord flipping shit and "warning" everybody else who clearly don't give a shit. Don't change /pol/

>>7955924

The future you choose.

>>7955574

The goyim know!

>>7955930
I chose nothing.

>>7955563
>Adam throwing me over his shoulder
why can't I stop laughing

>>7955943

Inaction is a choice.

>>7955854
post in the comm page or name and shame

>>7955396
That's my favourite horror story of all time

>>7955854
I had this happen to me, I just kept calling her out in front of her friends at every con i saw her at, she finally paid up like a year later

she basically freeloaded off my carpool going to AX and owed $120

>>7956186
don't you guys blow nearly $1200 on each cord?

chasing some free loading loser around for a year over some $120 portion of the bill is lame

>>7956228
>$1200 on each cord?
Sieg.

>>7956231
well i assume you're not wearing bodyline if you're attending cons.....

>>7956228
Popular dresses are mostly $300 - $400, most buy just a few in a year and sometimes sell one or two.
Cardigans, shoes etc aren't very expensive second hand and offbrand, most of the time they will cost as much as normal clothes that aren't Wal-Mart-quality.
Also most people mix and match things they already have and create new coords just by adding a new blouse or shoes in a different color.
Once you have a decent wardrobe lolita isn't nearly as expensive anymore.
But I really wonder why I responded to you in the first place..

>>7954885
who cares its funny

>>7956242
oh so it's mostly teens bitching about the prices then

$400 for a dress is easily manageable.

>But I really wonder why I responded to you in the first place..

what is this supposed to mean?

>>7956248
Please tell me you're not actually oblivious to the boards opinion on you...

>>7955389
I don't lend anything to my friends, besides paperback novels and tupperware. I have stuff I don't even let them touch, and those are people I value and care about deeply. I let them put on my dresses or wigs if I'm present, or let them use my camera, but I would never give it to them without my supervision because these are things I care about and worked hard for, and they don't value them the same way I do. It's just not practical.

>>7956248
Of course it's teens bitching. If you buy a dress now and then from your birthday money or christmas money and buy the rest bit by bit it's not a very expensive hobby.
Most noobs just want a huge wardrobe within being one month into the fashion but spend their money on fast food or other little shit which adds up. It's not like they can wear their dresses anytime soon so why the hurry.

>>7956251
literally 2 people
>whole board

>>7956261
literally the whole board, trust me
even on /fa/ most people think you're a faggot

>>7956261
bitch I visit /cgl/ only few times a month and I still manage to constantly cringe at your unrepentant shitposting

>>7954817
I came to this board out of curiosity I wasn't expecting this shit. Do you people put up with this stuff all the time? How do you manage to deal with crazy bitches?

>>7956342
These stories are rare gems.
Most drama involves weeaboos and lolcows looking hilariousy bad and posting cringe-worthy posts and 'e-famous' attention whores.

>>7956261
No we all pretty much think you're an idiot. Just don't feel like shitting up the thread by repeating the obvious.

>>7955493
I've never lent anyone a dress before and all of this shit is why. All of this is really just common sense.
>Extreme jealousy
Oh god, one of the girls in my comm let one of her best friends friends borrow a dress and another close friend of hers asked if she could wear one, too. This girl is one of the most clumsy people of all time and has damaged several of her own dresses, so the girl said no and why. She took it as a sign she favored the other girl more when it was just because she didn't want to risk her dress getting damaged. It had a serious impact on their relationship for, like, a month.

>>7954639
>>7954641
>>7954648
Jesus christ

I once sold my old ita crap to a friend who was just getting into lolita for way more than it was worth. She was just so excited and I just really wanted to get rid of this stuff from my wardrobe. I know I could have just given it to her or sold it to her cheaper but when I half-jokingly said a price she jumped at it. So I just priced all the other crap high too.

>>7954648
How the fuck could she possibly think she could get away with that? No one would believe something like that was coincidence without solid proof.

>>7956476
Bitches be crazy?

I used to be have to hang out with this girl who shamelessly tried to steal my boyfriend. She always wore slutty as fuck costumes to cons and clung to his arm. She dismissed him telling her to back off as being tsundere. She told people how he was going to leave me for her, even after we were engaged. I cut her off pretty early on once that shit started, but we still see her at cons. She says awful shit all the time about me and every now and then I get anon hate that I'm pretty sure is her. I'm not well known and I don't post anything controversial, so the odds of some random person I don't know giving me shit for a year is pretty low.

>>7956242
>But I really wonder why I responded to you in the first place..
Nothing you said is wrong but anon, when you have thoughts like these and they stay with you long enough to type the captcha and hit post, that's when you know it'd be better to just close the thread and say nothing. Replying to sieg is a waste of time.

>>7956242
Don't bother replying to sieg. I've started filtering his posts, much easier.

I've got a couple of stories involving one of the crazies of my comm.
>Be at a lolita convention.
>It's my second one, and it's a ton of fun; everyone is dressed beautifully.
>My lolita-senpai is there. We'll call her A. She is a really kind girl with great co-ords. She greets all the noobs and makes everyone feel welcome. She'll let you borrow her co-ords anytime.
>She's dating this girl who thinks she is the hottest shit to happen to lolita. Professional "model", "famous" with a fan club of 14 year old weebs, the next Mana-sama. Let's call her C.
>C is jealous to the point of hate of A, but dates her to use her. A is too kind to tell her to shove off. A is always cleaning up her messes. It is so sad and cringey to watch.
>C once cried and accused A of sabotaging her because Hirooka Naoto didn't want her as a model, but complimented A's hair and sold her a one of a kind dress. A offered to straight up give C the dress, that's how nice A is.
>Fast forward to the farewell tea. A makes a co-ord with Puppet Circus. C also makes a co-ord with Puppet Circus.
>C's is an Oo Jia replica, but she tells the entire con that hers is real and flaunts her expensive dress to everyone.
>She bashes A for wearing a replica, and tells everyone how A supports art theft. She tells everyone how she buys A's clothes and dresses her since "the poor girl is just so hopeless" without C's superior fashion skills.
>A gets harassed by C's fan club for daring to copy C. One of them smears cupcake on A's drawings.
>Another follows A around and constantly tells her how A doesn't deserve goddess C. This girl shoots A with a nerf gun every chance she gets.
>A is wearing the real Puppet Circus. A buys C's clothes and pays her rent.
>I tell my circle of friends that A is wearing the real PC. Story makes it's way through the con. Everyone now knows that C is lying, but no one tells C.
>C's head is so far up her own ass she can't see people laughing at her "Master Lolita Status."
(1/?)

>>7957110
I have several stories about C's craziness. This was a tame one, but it related to Puppet Circus. I have the stories where C tried to use A as a bargaining chip to pay the rent, C making A cough up blood, C's sex tour through the cosplay/ Lolita comms, the stolen dollfie, and C making her new gf dress exact like A, plus the stalking stories.
If these sound interesting, I'll tell them. I think I can find C's pics in one of the ita threads.

>>7954885
A.. Are you fucking retarded.. what? What? You're talking about people living their lives as per usual interaction with their peers and expect pictures. You may as well call every single person on Earth a liar for every social experience they've ever had by virtue that there are "no pictures".

Fuck you, go outside.

>>7957124
>implying attention whores who's hobby is to dress up and pose for photogs aren't taking selfies at every waking moment when out with "friends"

>>7957119
moar please

>>7957124
Well, I don't think she's asking for proof of the incident in pictures, but more like photos of the crazy bitches in question, etc. But really who cares, most stories are probably lies but they're still entertaining.

>>7957132
Not always. I've been a lolita since 2007, but you won't find a single picture of me that wasn't taken at a meet or con by some random person who asked for a pic. Taking pictures is a very minuscule part of the hobby to me.

>>7957119
More, but can you just use fake names like Claire or Adrian?

I don't get why people insist on just using letters...

>>7957162
>photos of crazy bitches in question
If I were to post a horror story about some crazy bitch, I wouldn't put any info that would identify her in fear of how she would retaliate.

>>7957110
>>7957119
Oh my God, she sounds life such an awful person. Just from what you described, I feel really bad for A. Are they still dating?

I would love to hear more stories, though! (and possibly some of the pics you mentioned?)

>>7955389
One of my best friends is a colossal sloppy clutz. Sometimes she just falls over out of nowhere and she often spills food on herself. I would trust her with a lot of things but I would never ever lend her a piece of clothing I was even remotely attached to. Trusting your friends is one thing, being aware of their flaws is another.

>>7957176
This. And, isn't there some shit where you can get in trouble for slander if the person finds out?

>>7954648
wow im so sorry about that. thats horrifying.
your comm sounds very friendly though, which is it if you dont mind me asking.

>>7956880
I used to filter him but apparently the filter fell off at some point. Weird, and annoying.

>>7956261
>2 people
Oh don't you wish that were true.

>>7957146
Okay! I'll tell one to tide you over before I go eat. This one is: C is a cheap fuck.

>A couple of things about A: A and I didn't become friends until a lot of this had passed, but C talked about A all the time.
>A was a huge doormat during a lot of this. She was too nice to say No. A is also handicapped She's got some super rare disease. She's always in pain and her organs tend to fail, or something like that. Sometimes she uses a wheelchair.
Anyways...

>C and A live in an apartment downtown. A pays for everything. C's job is to help take care of her, since A needs help.
>C is also a cosplayer. A is interested in trying it, but C tells her she can't because A wouldn't do justice to the characters. C is in a famous art school, studying fashion design.
>C starts failing art school because she only wants to do edgy goffick alternative fashion. She is given an ultimatum: follow the rules or switch courses, because her shit is ugly and won't cut it.
>C tells the instructors that they aren't ~ready~ for her revolutionary fashion and she's too advanced for them.
>C gets the boot, and switches to sequential art (comics, etc)
>C has a vision that will catapult her to fame: A Batman manga. She will only draw Batman or Kingdom Hearts OCs in class.
>She brags about how her teachers are offering her early book deals, and maybe a trip to Japan to meet likeminded mangaka. She is the toast of the weebs before they either drop out or wise up in the art world.
>A also goes to this school. She's on full scholarship, studying sequential art. She wants to do concept design eventually. The classes constantly talk about ther's lolcows... A dude who believes he is Edward from Twilight, and C, who can only draw Batman.
>C feels she needs to focus on her world-changing comic, so she stops doing the work for normalfag classes, as they are below her.
>A doesn't want her to flunk out, so she takes on C's general courseload, plus her own.
>A starts getting sick and weak.
(3/?)

>>7957198
What the fucking fuck. I hope A has stopped being such a massive doormat, because that's just sad.

>>7956329
>only few times a month
I wish I had that kind of self control

>>7957198
(...cont)
>A has to use her wheelchair constantly, now, from overwork and stress.
>C gets her student loans in! But instead of paying for school, she blows all the money on Moitie, 2 dollfies, cosplay, cons, and weeb paraphernalia. What could wrong? She has a scholarship!
>A collapses at school and has a seizure. She is rushed to the hospital, where she stays for a few weeks.
>The school advises A to take a medical withdrawal. A decides to give it another go.
>Meanwhile... A is a kind doormat, and will help anyone in need. She gets taken advantage of a lot.
>A highschool friend of A's has been kicked out of her house for coming out as a lesbian. We'll call her Butch.
>A invites Butch to come live temporarily with her and C. Butch is asked to help with the cooking and cleaning, but no rent. She's asked to bring her own food.
>Butch moves in and becomes close friends with C. They make fun of A for being too delicate, a lipstick lesbian, not tough enough, etc.
>A is still doing the double course load. She has, however, managed to save up and buy an item she's always wanted- a Bambicrony Bella Bambi Marianne (Dollfie.)
>C had quit smoking, but Butch started her on the habit again. A is allergic to the smoke and coughs up blood. Neither of them stop when asked.
>A collapses at school again. The ambulance picks her up. She's admitted for a week. She ends up taking medical withdrawal.
>Unbeknownst to her at this time, Butch and C started hooking up. They cheat on A while she was in the hospital.
>They cheat in a threesome with A's good friend, a Russian from down the hall.
>A gets back and recooperates. C loses her scholarship, and flunks out completely. The school demands payment.
>A gives C what she can, but still C has to sell her dollfies and brand so she can secure a loan.
>A talks to C about getting a job, but C tell her she has a job! C is a professional model, you see.
(4/?)

>>7955357
>>7955360
When I first saw my name I nearly had a heart attack.

'No anon, please, don't use my name for the bad guy...'

Then it turns out to be a friend. Still horrifying to see your name on an anonymous board.

>>7957198
>C has a vision that will catapult her to fame: A Batman manga

>>7957224
She has, but it took a huge horror to make it happen. (Related to this story.) A is a much, happier, healthier person now.
>>7957180
They aren't, but C is obsessed with her still. I've got a story about that that happened at a con
>>7957174
I'm sorry, I hear you. I'll name other characters actual names. One reason I use initials for the main people are so that no one skimming gets confused about similarly named people.

>>7957198

Is C a Tischie by any chance?

>>7957254
Oh no! Please don't tell me C sells A's Dollfie.

This story makes me so angry and upset. I sincerely hope C gets her just desserts.

>>7957254
(...cont)
>Now, C's never worked for a company with an actual paycheck before. She turns down little jobs (200-300$ because they are beneath her modeling talent.
>C types lys dis xD!1 wut is capitals and spellring. Arigato desu~ and wants to do anything to become famous, so small jobs don't cut it. She falls for a couple of Internet scams because she won't let A help her. (Pay 200$ and get $2000)
>C does some nude shots for money, because they are "artistic".
>Not sure how fucking yourself with a pink dildo is art, but I'm a pleb.
>Meanwhile A and her Russian friend are hanging out. He mentions the threesome wasn't that great... C fucks like a 13 year old boy thinks girls like.
>A is horrified. Russian friend is horrified in return because he was told A knew about it.
>A rushes home and confronts C. C denies everything until A presents proof. C starting saying some nasty shit, but A stopped her by asking "What did I do that made you do this?"
>Poor A at this time thought everything that was wrong with C was her fault.
>C tells A she cheated because the apartment was too small. C needed a room to herself instead of sharing a room with A.
>This was a nice apartment in a nice area, that was free to C. But C wanted a room of her own for cosplays, and so she could "express" herself by decorating it like an edgelord hot topic babybat.
>A agrees to fix this.
>A kicks Butch out for cheating on her. Butch also didn't pay for her own food, so A was paying for her.
>Butch leaves, telling A that she'll be seeing her again.
>Later that night, Butch calls A and reems her out, but seems a bit off. Turns out she's drunk and high and driving through the ghetto. A calms her down and guides her back to the apartment so she doesn't kill herself.
>A puts Butch on the couch and takes her keys. Butch becomes violent, and A has to sit on top of her to restrain her.
>After Butch gets the boot. A goes into the hospital again for injuries.
(Do you guys want more?)

>>7955396
I'm not really familiar with how the US justice system works, but I don't really understand how K would have the grounds to press charges, as she was the one who ransacked their room and attacked first while the others were just acting in self-defense/defense of OP.

>>7957270
I'm not sure what that is, but it isn't C's name.

I did leave out C's friends who ended up rooming with A in the first apartment. I can tell those stories too. One roleplayed and stayed in character all day and the other was sexed crazed in a funny way.

>>7957292

>>7957292
keep it coming anon

>>7957292
You know we do.

>>7957264
I'm so glad to hear that she's doing better. She sounds so sweet, and reading this is breaking my heart a little. I don't understand how such utterly cruel people like C exist, jfc.

>>7957296
I think anon meant does C attend Tisch, the art school.

>>7957174
Someone has this bitch in every thread. Is it really that much harder to keep different letters in order compared to random names?

>>7957292
(...cont 6/?)

>C picks out apartments while A is undergoing surgery.
>Every apartment is in the gang-areas of downtown. They all have more rooms, but were disgusting and dangerous parts of the city.
>The current apartment has one bedroom, a huge living area, dining room, sun room, open plan kitchen, and lovely views. It's beautiful, but A had put her foot down on the main room's decorations, which pissed off C.
>C attends an event where you can meet Miss J from America's Next Top Model. Now, all of her resumes say she was personally trained by Miss J.
>C tries out for America's Got Talent, American Idol, The Voice, etc. every time she's not accepted, it's somehow A's fault.
>A refuses to live in a shithole. She finds a lovely apartment: it's got high ceilings, 2 bedrooms, open kitchen/dining room, jacuzzi bath, walk in closets, etc.
>However, A can't pay for everything alone. She tells C that C must pay 500$ a month.
>C agrees and they sign a lease. A stipulated that C needed a real job that had a regular paycheck.
>C reluctantly works at Kroger.
>A adopts two sweet kittens. She names one Alexei. C names the other one Mao, after the character in Code Geass, since A won't let her name one Alucard.
>C's room is covered in black, floor to ceiling. She has NIN and Batman stuff everywhere. She's started collecting figures that see begs A to buy for her.
>New life is okay. Things seem to have settled down... C isn't making fun of A.
>C, however, has new plans. She has decided that the best way to get her fame is to become the next Yaya Han in cosplay. And she will be the master of all Lolitas.
>She starts forcing A to take her to cons. A usually goes to the Big Two here. C has started going to little cons, and building a fan base of 12-15 year old weebs.
>C uses the androgynous bishonen lesbian shipping armies of tumblr to her advantage. She gets hired to be a Star Girl by the owner of Gaijan, who runs these little one day cons.
(Next... Weebs and A's doll)

>>7957334
Oh! No it's not Tisch! I actually had never heard of that school until today. >>7957315
>>7957317
>>7957315
It only goes down from here. Get ready for the ride.

>>7957341
(7/?)
>C brags about how in demand she is at cons. Proof of her popularity is that she has obtained Vic Mcdongalong's phone number.
>Her "guest duties" including standing at a booth in costume and selling mystery boxes (Star Boxes). She gives out autographs on the side.
>A pays for the hotels, drives the car, pays for the tickets, and generally fills in for C when she flakes- I mean, is being a professional cosplay guest.
>The tumblr weeb army has a massive crush on C. She's just so edgy, with her hair died a different color every month, wearing fakeboi clothes, not to mention her Ankh, Batman, Dir En Grey and Moitie tattoos.
>Yes, dear Mana-sama, the Moitie logo on her body.
>She also flirts with the weebs, making her their god. She plays the stand-offish, strong, cool type.
>She puts down A in front of them, and plays the anime trope of, "I would love you, random weeb-chan, but my girlfriend is crippled... I cannot leave her with honor." She stares sadly into the distance.
>This caused them to: 1. follow her around and whiteknight her, 2. Buy those mystery boxes, and 3. Hate A for "not setting C free to love~"
>One particular con, it got really bad. At S-con, a one day con, C was the main attraction. Her weeb followers came to this con to see her (some with parents in tow).
>By this time, A had bought C some lolita. She bought her Moitie, and A bought herself some Bodyline because she spent her money on C's cons and clothes.
>C had to run a Lolita panel. C makes A carry all of C's stuff by dumping it in her wheelchair. A had started to fall in love with Lolita now.
>A closed down the booth with the boxes and the art she was selling, and went to go to the panel.
>A had brought her Dollfie to this con, because it was the first time they were in lolita together. Her Dollfie, Alice, has a little wheelchair too.
>The panel was having technical difficulties, and the crowd was restless. A, who is a great public speaker, got up and started the panel.

>>There's this wierd girl I know that people call her "Scary Mary".

>>I met her in college, she was pretty discreet about her cosplay hobby but I stumbled upon some pics and spoke to her about it.
>>She was happy to know that I cosplayed too but that was it.

>> Adding her on facebook was the worst mistake I ever made. All she did was whine about how busty chicks were the popular cosplayers, shit like that. But then shit got wierd.

>>Every time she got posted on cgl, she'd whine on her wall about it, but eventually this seemed to please her, quoting whatever the hell people wrote about her, even uploaded the same photos n shit. (made a Junketsu out of fabric and christmas lights just so she could be the "first")

>> Due to all of this, she cut her hair real short, and recently, she pretty much threatened to shave her head, probably cause she didn't win a cosplay contest.

She's the type of girl that I think would be capable of committing suicide or something due to this. I hope she comes into her senses some day.

>>7957341
>>7957388
>Con with shitty abusive girlfriend that has a cray following
>Brought her dollfie along
Oh no, I don't want this to happen but I know it's going to

>>7957388
(8/?)
>A's talk was great. It got the point across, and it was really fucking funny. A is a hilarious person. She can make anyone laugh, and a lot of her humor comes from candid self-deprecation.
>C gets extremely jealous that A is giving a better panel. She shuts A down mid sentence and screams at her: "They came here to see ME, not you. You don't know anything about lolita, look, you're wearing Bodyline and I'm in Moitie! Could you be less of a lolita?!"
>Uncomfortable silence. Then the weeb brigade starts calling out A for being a jelly hater of C, ugly, fat, not worth C, etc.
>A is extremely embarrassed, and stands in the corner. C takes over the presentation, and does her usual style: dry and technical so looks smart.
>When A came back to her table, her drawing were torn up and had food on them. She started crying.
>C came over and comforted her... while her weeblings watched on. "Who would do this to such a fragile, sick girl? Whoever it was... you can't do it again! I know you did it for me... But this is not the way to be with me! I'm A's prince, and I will defend her."
>Cue swoon.
>The weebs harass A after this... from trying to trip her cane while walking to anonymous hate mail.
>One badly afflicted weeb, cosplaying Celes from Hellsing, refused to talk to A. Just straight up wouldn't respond. A said Hi and tried to be friendly, but she would just stand there staring at A and talking only to C.
>A had enough. She told C to get these weebs to leave her alone. C said she would, but couldn't rush hurting their feelings. After all, A was older, couldn't she see they were just kids?
>On a side note, C preferred younger people. Like 14-16. They worshipped her.
>A asked C to watch the booth, and went to go lay down. C was selling some shitty handmade jewelry. She asked if A's Dollfie could stay out since she was displaying the jewelry.
>A told her to guard her with her life, but agreed.
>A comes back. No one is at the booth. Alice, the BJD, is missing.

>>7957418
this is awful

>>7957418
can we name and shame c

>>7957418
NO. why A?

>>7957418
This is breaking my heart

>>7957418
This is so tumblr but literally my only response to this is KEEP A SAFE!!!!!! that poor girl oh my god

>>7957418
I saw it coming and it still hurt like a bitch

>>7957418
Noooo. I knew something bad was going to happen to the doll since you first mentioned her, but that doesn't make it any less devastating. What an awful friend. I don't know how people like that live with themselves.

>>7957441
Yes! Please? Please, can we?!

>>7956261
>2 people
you wish, honey

>>7957418
>A freaks out. She looks everywhere. She alerts security. She alerts the director of the convention. She asks him for a list of the attendees, so she can email them and ask. She is offering a large reward.
>Director says he won't help her, because then the con will get a bad reputation.
>She calls the police and makes a report, nothing ever comes of it.
>A is heartbroken. Her doll went to the hospital with her, and is only one of 10 of that mold made.
>She never finds it.
>About a month later, C, who has no money, gets some new dresses... Ostensibly from her mom.
>Nothing was ever proved, and C denied the allegations.
>Alice has never been seen again, although A still looks for her.
>Fast forward several years... A did find a similar doll later- Bambicrony BB Vivienne, called Ekaterina, or Katia.

Here is where things go from funny cringe to horror.

>After all this, A and C return home. Now, A isn't super rich. She budgets and knows how to maximize what she does have.
>C continuously takes off from work: for cons, to work on cosplay, to roleplay, or to game. She uses A's disability as a cover.
>She's about to get fired, so she just quits.
>A is very upset, since the first mention of these problems was the day it happened.
>"Don't worry, A! It's the best thing! You see, I can concentrate on my Lolita/ouji brand, cosplay, and modeling! And I have just gotten a job that will let me be me!"
>She just got a seasonal job at a haunted house. It pays well, and this is one of the top haunted houses in the US.
>C hurts herself on the first day. She isn't in shape, and she hurt her shoulder.
>A is sympathetic toward her, but C decides that her hurt shoulder is way more painful/serious than A's chronic pain condition.
>A barely complains, but now if she says anything, C berates her because "she's not the only hurt one~ stop being an entitled bitch, A!"
>C meets a cool dude we'll call Big Daddy. He's important later.
(Cont, if you want the rest.)

>>7957473
>>7957446
>>7957430
>>7957466
>>7957441
Once I finish, you can decide if C should be shamed.
When asked about her, A says everyone should make their own opinions, because there was good with the bad, and maybe C had changed.

I say fuck C.

i'm not the anon telling stories nor am I in their comm but from hearing drama stories from past threads, I have a pretty good idea on who these people are and which comm they're from. however if names are given out it could lead to a huge mess so all i'm going to say, anyone who's interested about these people can look through the archives to satisfy yourselves but let's just be a quiet audience for now and listen to more.

>>7957481
moar please!

>>7957481
i feel so horrible for A... its not easy to stop being a doormat, especially if you're in a relationship with the person wiping their feet all over you.

>>7957481
>After the Haunt season is over, C gives no inclination to want to work. She thinks retail is below her status.
>She buys a bunch of "sexy" con gear, invader zim/ nightmare before Xmas/ Johnny the homicidal manaic posters, and makes a pagan shrine in her room, using Mana as a stand in for the horned God.
>A cannot afford the apartment herself. C tells her not to worry, as life works out for her.
>Then, one day, C announces that she is moving back to her home state to become a hair stylist. She "has to follow her dreams, A! She's stifled her in the city. It's too conventional for her!"
>Oh, and she's leaving in the next three days. Have fun with breaking the rental agreement, A. Oh, and the cats couldn't live without her, so they're going to bumblefuck, too.
>A puts her foot down on keeping the cats, as C doesn't take care of them. C has such a fear of animals not being fat that A has to sneak the kitties food.
>A is dumbfounded. She can't pay the full rent, but even if she could, she can't live alone because of her disability.
>A is forced to go into debt to pay the breech of contract fees. A sends a bill for it to C, who never pays. A is the only name on the contract, because C has shit credit. There is no legal recourse for A.
>Now, I'm sure you are wondering... why doesn't A leave? This shit is bananas.
>The answer is because C is verbally abusive. A had it drilled into her that everything was her fault. C had taught her that no one would ever love a girl who is disabled. A thought she was lucky to have someone as great as C to love her.
>C, by this time, had isolated A. A didn't have any friends outside of C's group. I know A vaguely through my local comm, but she was never without C. Comm members had a lot of different feelings.

The calm before the storm...

>A moved in with her grandparents. She took care of the kitties. Being out from under C's direct control, A bloomed a little bit.

>>7957485
That's a major reason why I didn't name them. I couldn't give a shit about C, but A doesn't want drama.
When A was at her maddest, she confided in a few people about what had really happened (only C's side was told). She regrets that to this day, and if you ask her, she'll just tell you she doesn't want to talk about it, and if C would leave her alone, she'd never bring it up again.

>>7957506
Reading stories like this makes me so glad I never came across anyone truly monstrous when I was still a self-loathing doormat-chan. This poor girl...

>>7957506
(11/?... this is long)
>A starts interacting with the comm. she makes some nice friends, myself included.
>She buys her first brand. She has an innocence about it that is just too cute.
>She is a bit upset about the lease thing, especially since C have no fucks about it. From now on, A will only lend C money.
>Without C constantly draining her funds, she puts together a nice little wardrobe.
>Fast forward a year and half to C's return.
>I know it doesn't take that long to finish beauty school, but C failed tests and slacked off. C visited A maybe twice.
>A made the cross-state trip several times, even though driving makes her really sick. She met a friend of C's that we'll call Princess. Princess is really chill and nice.
>C does A's hair. She cuts it so lopsided that A has to go to a real stylist to fix it.
>C has told A that she doesn't get enough sex during their desperation. She informs A she'll have a male fuckbuddy. It totally doesn't count as cheating since he's a guy. A agrees as long as C quits it when they're together.
>C moves back to the city. She moves into a crazy lady's basement. This lady is divorced, but keeps all of her children's toys in the basement. There are bins upon bins of children's toys... Barbies, Pollypockets, GI. joes.
>These toys aren't allowed to be moved in case the children come back to play with them. Her youngest child is now 24.
>Because of the crap everywhere, and A's weak lungs, she can't breath in the house. C forces A to stay in that basement, though because she doesn't want to leave. Princess comes for a visit. C doesn't want A to be friends with Princess, so A is shut in a room. This happens frequently.
>C wants to move again because crazy lady won't let her decorate the basement in C's "gang colors".
>In high school, C had a weeb "gang" that dressed like Harley Quinn knockoffs and terrorized the school.
>C also said she had Multiple Personalities, and her friend had Schizophrenia and they cured each other.

>>7957535
(12/?- Some random anecdotes)
>C's "alternate personality" was just her acting like a pervert and an asshole, and "not remembering it" (kinda like Deadpool cosplayers nowadays).
>She said that the teachers at her school called her a witch and were afraid of her supernatural powers.
>She said she didn't know what friends were until junior high, and beat up everyone. She also would say she was bullied.
>She hated her family and made them seem to be the most abusive fuckers ever. They paid for her schooling, bought her a car, let her dress however, etc.
>Her best friend (whom she screwed over and dropped) and she roleplayed Kingdom Hearts/Persona/FFVII with hentai, shota, boys love, and incest. And I don't mean writing. They acted out everything, kinda like a LARP, but with no rules.
>A would be locked in a bedroom while they did this.
>Her other friend, who didn't tell A that her "visit" was actually month long internship, couldn't keep her legs closed. The only thing she would talk about was sex. She would wake A up at 2-4am to be let in the apartment gate. A has trouble sleeping, so she would get no sleep.
>She once embarrassed A by asking A's visiting mom (a conservative Christian) if she would like to watch a porno with her.
>C wants to move, but A refuses to get another apartment. By this time, C is working at the Haunt again. C runs into Big Daddy. It turns out he has a room for let!
>About Big Daddy: He looks like the scariest mofo. He is the kindest, gentlest man. He loves his little daughter and his wife... we'll call them Queen and LilQueen.
>This family is polyamorous. C starts dating Queen. A is given no choice in the matter, and is honestly relieved.
>Ever since C returned, C has been increasing rough and perverted with their sex life. C is hurting A enough to where she will bleed after sex, each time.
>A is in lots of pain and has enough blood loss to be admitted. I can go into more detail, but it's explicit.
>A longs for relief.

>>7957110
What is it with bitches losing their shit over Puppet Circus? When I bought mine I got a reputation for being an elitist tyrant over night. People literally warn new girls in our community about me. Apparently, if you're not wearing a 100% brand coord, don't even try talking to me or I'll rip your heart out and eat it right in front of you before raping your mother and setting the rest of your family on fire and pissing on their charred remains.

>>7957187

Slander is spoken. In print it's libel.

Anyway, that only applies if it's not true.

>>7957572
(13/?)
>A is glad to share the burden, since C wants sex all the time, and A is used up.
>A didn't have a choice in the matter either. C has started to get a bit physical.
>C moves in with Big Daddy, Queen, and lilQueen.
>C has started going to the lolita comm again. She is really chummy with a girl. A little too chummy. This girl is called S.
>A stops talking to people, including me. She is only seen with C. She has continued to buy dresses for herself now and then.
>C introduces A to S. C and S have some kind of secret... or a joke at A's expense. A doesn't see it though, as she's used to being treated like shit.
>A has started pushing back in the tiniest of ways. C no longer has access to A's money, and A is spending money on herself instead of C. This infuriates C.
>On top of it, A is more well-known in the comm. She's more popular than C. C can't stand this. Especially since A doesn't seem to realize it. She's friendly, not fame hungry.
>C cannot have A, stupid A, overshadow her!
>On top of this, C can't afford brand or cosplay since she is paying rent...
>What to do...

>>7957589
>A decides she doesn't want to pay rent so she can afford her hobbi- er, her destiny.
>She takes Queen aside and tells her that Queen can have sex with A if Queen will cut down in the rent. After all, A has the biggest crush on Queen, or so C says...
>Queen likes A and agrees.
>No one bothers to tell A. A doesn't want to have sex with anyone, let alone 2 people.
>A spends her time making great friends with Queen and BigDaddy. She takes care of lilQueen like she's her own daughter.
>Queen very gently starts to court A. A is oblivious.
>Eventually things come to head, with Queen being blunt. A rejects her. This causes a rift between Queen and A. Remember, neither if them know the whole story.
>C is jealous that A has a nice wardrobe and is angry since A won't buy her dresses, just loan her money. Queen and BigDaddy also loan C money, each thinking they are the only ones.
>C has cut A off from all friends. A can only speak to those that C dictates, and C reads her texts, Facebook, and email before A can send anything. A has no more friends except this group.
>A continues her own little choice to wear lolita. I think it was one of the money things kept her going, especially...
>...when who should show up, but Butch? Surprise, Butch and C were sleeping together the past 4 years behind A's back. S is coming around too.
>When A confronts C about all the cheating, C hits her and lands her in the hospital, almost breaking her eye socket.
>A is deathly afraid. No one else in the house knows what is happening.
>C also forces A to have painful sex. A says it wasn't rape since she consented out of fear. She does call it abuse, though.
>The subject of if this is rape or not is incredibly touchy in the comm. You'll see later at the end.
>On a random note, I think this was briefly touched on in a BtB post.

>>7957607
I meant C at the beginning, not A. We're nearing the conclusion. Do you want the rest?

>>7957610
YES

>>7957610
Yes please!

>>7957610
Give us the rest man. This is the juiciest part. I just want to pick A up and hug her. Also a "where are they now" afterward would be appreciated.

>>7957610
No. By all means, stop writing this gigantic 14+ post horror story you've been posting for hours now WHY ARE YOU ASKING OF COURSE PEOPLE WANT THE END

>>7957622
seconding

>>7957610
FUCK YES

>>7957607
(15/?)
>At this point, A is unraveling mentally and physically. She's in the hospitol every other week, for her condition as well as the physical abuse.
>Butch and S both taunt and tease her.
>BigDaddy is working a lot. A gets solace from caring for lilQueen.
>A loses weight and stops speaking so much. She quits wearing lolita almost completely.
>C tells her how the comm hates her and thinks she's ita and how sad it is that beautiful dresses are wasted on such a cockroach.
>C works as a hair stylist now. She comes home at six.
>A has developed a response to where she breaks down when it's time for C to come home. BigDaddy notices eventually, but can't really do anything. Queen, his wife, is under C's charismatic spell and dating her. It seemed A rejected Queen for no reason in a rude manner. Who was to blame?
>This is when the PC story takes place.
>A was part of C's hair styling panel. The panel was boring, so A tried to speak and make it more lively. She succeeded. C turned her so she was facing the corner and forced her to sit in silence like a school child. C later took A's cane away and hit her with it (a favorite punishment). No one saw; A told me later.
>A found out C was sleeping with S and that they told rumors about A. A couldn't take it, as she was crazy with stress.
>C and A broke up. I don't know the details, but A ended up in the regular hospital with injuries. She will have trouble conceiving from the sex abuse.
>A became catatonic and was admitted to the psych ward. She stayed for a long time. She got a diagnosis and slowly got better.
>However, C wanted A destroyed. She told lies to BigDaddy and family. All of them dropped A.
>C told a bunch of stuff to the Lolita comm. Many of them trusted her over A.
>A lost all her friends. She decided to quit Lolita.
>C and S started trying to become the next efamous Lolita Couple.
>They were well liked in the comm.

Next... A's Return.

>>7957640
>>7957631
>>7957622
>>7957618
You gulls know I'm teasing! I wouldn't let you not have the end!

>>7957607
post the secret

>>7957607
>crippled
>attacked immediately before
>consenting solely out of fear
How is it even a debate whether or not she was rape?

I feel really bad for this girl and I hope this doesn't sound like victim blaming, but I can't help be be very frustrated at her as I read this. From the sounds of things, she's known this girl was a piece of shit for a while. Not saying she deserves it, but this all would have been avoided had she gotten this girl out of her life before like she should have.

as I read this thread I pray that karma is real, even if justice fails.

>>7957673
To be honest that happens with a lot of people in abusive relationships. You make excuses to justify their bad behavior because you are afraid of them and think it's also your own fault.

I've been there it's awful.

>>7957678
I pray that these girls get raped and killed in the most gruesome ways.

>>7957673
You're not the only one who feels that way, while my heart reaches out for her.

I can't also stop thinking.

"Bitch are you fucking dumb. Leave already damn"

>>7957686
I mean bitches, because they obviously can't be human

>>7957683
There are quite a bit support groups though and awareness for that kind of thing, I mean. I don't know. I haven't been there but then again. My mother didn't put up with that stuff when my father started to be abusive, so she just went up and left him at the tender age at 21 with a newborn baby in a country she didn't even know the language or family to have support from, she came alone here with my father, her then husband. So I'm just raised with a stronger mindset/mentality and can't wrap my head around putting up with something like that.

>>7957650
Now, I'm obligated to say, since A says this, that both sides were to blame. What makes it so hard is that there were good times with the bad. A and C needed mental help. The difference was that A was willing to accept the help.

A has an undiagnosed mental health condition. I can't say what it is, sorry. Ask her yourself. She also has depression. This condition is not a personality disorder, though. As long as I'm armcharing psychology... I would bet money that C has Narcissistic PD.

>A got a needed diagnosis. She entered intensive therapy and is so much better. Part of her being such a doormat was due to this.
>A was still in the comm. In a weird coincidence, a girl invited A to a birthday party out of the blue. This girl, Angel, remembered A crying years of happiness when Angel sang A happy birthday a year ago.
>A accepted and met up with Angel's group of friends to sing karaoke. They treated A like a person. A could not get over that they didn't care if she was disabled or ugly.
>A was coaxed out of her shell and ended up being friends with Angel and her group of like 6.
>Now, C and her new gf S were active in the comm. in my humble opinion, they behaved like assholes and children. Full of themselves.
>They thought A was gone.
>A, armed with new self-confidence and friends via Angel, started going to meets. She first avoided meets where C and S attended. I got to know her during this time. I knew there was drama, but not what it was.
>A got up the nerve to go to meets where she would see C and S. Eventually, she was strong enough to talk to them.
>That was part of what made her my Senpai. She never said a bad thing to them. She was kind and courteous. She complained in private, though, and regrets it to this day.
>C couldn't keep up appearances forever. Eventually, her and S's true colors showed. Queen was having none of that, and they got the boot.
>Other comm members slowly started to side with A because C and S wouldn't stop bashing her.

>>7957694
It sounds stupid, but not everyone is aware. Another reason some people put up with abuse is that they are more afraid of unknown possibilities. If you stay, you know you will get hit. If you don't, you don't know what will happen (will your s/o stalk you and kill you? Will they kidnap your kids? will they leave you alone? who knows?). I wouldn't really say it's a matter of strength. It takes a lot to stay in an abusive relationship. It does take a lot to leave too of course. My mother was abused by my father and while I was abused by my ex, I knew well enough not to marry him. You improve and learn.

So does anyone else just wanna grow a mustache, and go all Paul Kersey on C like the riff-raff she is?

>>7957694
Your mother is strong and set a good example. When I was about fifteen, my mother got in a relationship with a man who would send her home with black eyes, and no matter how much I begged her to stop seeing him, she insisted he loved her. She's no longer with him, but it was a struggle for a while. She raised me to have low self-esteem, and my first boyfriend was very emotionally abusive and controlling (not physically abusive though, thankfully). I realized he was shitty after moving away to university and dumped him. I'd like to think I'd be smart enough to not stay with someone abusive again, but honestly, who knows. Good for you and excellent for your mother, truly, but it's not that simple for everyone, unfortunately. Just admitting that someone you love and who supposedly loves you is actually horrible can be hard enough, let alone reaching out and telling other people about it.

>>7957702

A is very lucky to have gone straight to hospital after leaving C. If C had the balls to stalk her after A had rebuilt a support system, there's no telling what could have happened if she wasn't in a safe place.

>>7957702
Regardless of what A "should have done", she was entirely the victim and should not shoulder blame, especially considering her lack of outside help and her disabilities. C is a horrendous person and honestly should be in jail.

>>7957707
That's actually eye-opening, I never thought of it that way, what made you finally leave your abusive ex? Though, glad that you did even though I'm just a stranger across the screen. Good on you.

>>7957694
Eh, I wouldn't call it a "Stronger" mentality. Definitely a healthier one, though, and I applaud you mother for not dealing with that nonsense. However, if you think about it, staying with someone that treats you like shit and hits you every day while still going to work, or maybe even taking care of kids, takes a lot of strength, just a different kind. A much less healthy, self-destructive kind, but still strength.

>>7957687
>>7957683
>>7957673
Actually, A and I have talked about this, and she absolutely agrees with this. She hates that she wasn't strong enough to leave/ press charges/ stand up. She wouldn't hesitate now. In fact, since C keeps coming back here (more in story), A is ready to take action.

At the same time, A told me that it's really hard to understand being in that situation, even for her after the fact. She had nonexistent self esteem from previous friends leaving her once she became disabled, among other things. And it wasn't all bad. She said she could have left if C was a total monster... but she wasn't.
She was trapped in this cycle of abuse. *terrible thing*, remorse, apology, everything is fine, repeat.

I'll get to the whole was it rape? Was it not? In a bit. It's super touchy, especially in the comm.
>>7957667
It has A's pic on it. I'll decide at the end. Hilariously, C insulted her and A gave C a compliment. She kills with kindness.

>>7957702
>I can't say what it is, sorry. Ask her yourself.
And how the fuck are we supposed to do that?

>>7957712
She is, I'm lucky to have a mother like her,

That's horrible, what made her finally realize?
Well I hope that your self-esteem is healthier than it was before, that really sucks.

Well, from the way you speak, you don't seem like you will. I hope that you won't either, but the best thing I could possibly say, and this is my own opinion. Value yourself, work to better anything you can about your own person, be really independent and not in the the whole feminsit boyzsuckkillemall way, but just doing everything you can to keep yourself up, finding ways to do things by yourself and again, realizing your own worth. Excuse the going too deep, obviously, I do not know you and I don't know what you are like, but if there's something helpful in there. Please take it.

This thread is giving me so much to be thankful for. It pains me to hear about all the shit A went through, as well as other anons who escaped abusive relationships.

>>7957718
While we were together, he separated me from people by telling them how much they hated me, though i was ugly, thought i was weird etc. After a while I mainly just had him. Because of this he abused me sexually a lot and I had no one to turn to. To be honest, what made me leave was when he went on vacation. I finally had some time to myself. No school ,no him, just me. For a long time I had been praying that I would just die in my sleep. Please God just kill me because I didn't think I was strong enough to leave him. When he went on vacation and I could spend some time alone, I remembered how much I missed that and I decided I had to do something. The day he came back I convinced him to break up with me. I knew that if I had done it and been obvious, he would hurt me. Him thinking it was his decision put me in a safer place. he still abused me a little bit after that but I ended up putting my foot down and telling him I wanted nothing to do with him ever again.

What prompted me to get help after my brain had basically been destroyed by him was actually CGL. I mentioned in a feels thread about how he would treat me which lead to a gull telling me that he probably tried to gaslight me. That lead to me realizing that Holy Crap none of that crap was normal and I'm not the scum of the earth.

>>7957707
I didn't mention this, but A was scared of C. C would threaten to kill herself if A left. She would threaten to take out lilQueen and then off herself. She was proficient with guns and keep knives near her bed and things like that. I don't blame A for being frightened. Especially being disabled. She can't run or defend herself too well. One tough hit to the lower back, and A will faint from the pain. It has to do with her disease.

>>7957737
Well, it's not really a mystery who these people are if you search the archives like an above anon said.

>>7957724
Ahh, well. Huh, I do believe you're right in that sense.

I just want to find out who this A girl is just so I can tell her it will be okay. I have a chronic illness and also lived through a similar abusive relationship, so reading all this is honestly making me cry. I almost wish this is one of those fake greentext stories since it just breaks my heart. Please tell me she's okay and recovering. I don't even care if C gets her just desserts, I need to know A will be fine.

>>7957687
Don't feel too sorry for her, since this story is obviously fake. I was enjoying it at first but OP's gone too extreme. :\

>>7957744
What's her disease. Lupus?

>>7957743
That's horrible, holy shit. Well. Hopefully you never go back to that and you find someone who treats you well and is there to support you in everything and encourages you to explore new things and adores the shit out of you. Hope your ex burns in hell though.

>>7957753
It could be, but there are people like that, male or female and it is plausible.

>>7957744
... did A ever tell lilQueen's parents about this? Even if hypothetically they thought she was lying, they at the very least would be cautious around C unless they were complete idiots with a total disregard for their child's safety. If I found out someone threatened my child like that and the person they said it to didn't tell me, I would be livid and no longer trust them with my kid regardless of the situation, batshit crazy abusive relationship complicating it or not.

>>7957718
Not that anon but for me it was when he broke up with me for like the 5th time in almost 4 years (first relationship, started in highschool he wasn't physically abusive but he was sexually and emotionally abusive and manipulative)
We had ended on good terms, 3 months later I was hanging out with my one friend a lot and was becoming interested.

Ex calls me up and wants to be friends, I don't really want to but after a while he wears me down like usual and I agree to just be friends. After more begging and such I agree to hang out with him at the pool .
>tl;Dr he tried to force himself on me and in me, broke down, wouldn't let me leave, cried for about an hour in this change room
>I'm dead inside at this point and scared all the begging and crying makes me feel sorry for him and I agree to still be friends
>this turns into him trying to make me his girlfriend again, I don't want to but I'm passive and scared so I say we'll see
>one "date" night things are going nicely until he wants sex
>I don't want to and tell him such and why
>repeat with begging and massive angry guilting
>sex happens, I say stop he doesn't, I cry to myself

After that I basically ran off with my friend since ex wouldn't take no and would always do the same thing until I agreed to do whatever and I was done.


People can really mess with you and have you do things you normally would call out and don't realize you're doing.

>>7957745
I do't feel like searching, could someone just give their names?

>>7957758
I had a real bad day today because I was trying to get a restraining order against him and he brought in video footage of us apparently having consentual sex even though it wasn't. I had to withdraw because I was too ashamed to have anyone see the footage. My lawyer said it was for the best.

It just pisses me off though. The judge, the lawyers and him...they can go home and never have to think about this but I have to live with what happened to me for the rest of my life. I try hard to not have a victim mentality but dammit I can't help the nightmares and panic attacks sometimes.

Anyhow, I learned that I have to love myself enough to not put up with that crap anymore. The best I can hope is that he never hurts anyone like how he hurt me ever again.

>>7957764
Ah geeze, that's just horrible. Has he still tried to contact you or anything like that? Hopefully he hasn't though, no one needs that in their life.

>>7957770
Large comm, United States. That's all I'm giving.

>>7957745
What terms can we even search for to filter the archives, who knows which terrible event was mentioned in passing threads

>>7957738
I think she came into contact with the man's previous girlfriend (maybe fiancee?) who told her he was also violent with her, and I think there was something about the man remaining too close in contact with her even while seeing my mother (it's been ten years, so I'm not sure if he was outright cheating on her or just sending inappropriate messages or what), and I guess befriending a woman who did better for herself helped open her eyes.

Haha, you're very kind. I'm much better now and have far more self-worth and do realize all of those things, but thank you for saying them all the same. I'm with someone who treats me very well now. I guess I just mostly meant you never know when you might get suckered into an unhealthy relationship without realizing it. Abusers don't start hitting you on day one, it's something that grows with time.

>>7957764
I'm sorry that happened to you anon. My ex was the same way. It's so awful how this stuff keeps happening to people.

>>7957775
HLC or SoCal?

>>7957772
Gurl. While I really have no experience with legal dealings the only thing I can think of is pepper spray the shit out of that guy the moment he steps five feet from you. Hopefully you find something to cheer you up, sorry about that anon and well, whoever may come across him. Hopefully they wise up.

>>7957776
Seconding this. I tried searching their code names on RBT with no luck.

Seriously, people, either give names or shut up about any drama outside of the stories provided in the thread. You're not in some kind of cool kids club for knowing who these people are.

>>7957745
i don't keep up with most comm drama, but if it's one of the larger comms there's a good shot i'm in it.. hint for a good search term to start with?

>>7957781
Ahhh, well hopefully your mother doesn't end up in a relationship like that again.

I'll make sure to keep that in mind in any relationship I'm in. No problem, well good for you. Hopefully he or she, continues to treat you even better.

>>7957787
Yeah I have to carry that crap around now. I think the judge felt bad for me because he told my ex that he has no reason to ever talk to me again and that he didn't want me being victimized twice by having that footage shown to multiple people. I am not going anywhere with my guard down ever again.
I honestly think he is going to hurt another girl and I hope whoever she is she was smarter than I was. Have self worth girls (and guys) and don't let someone treat you in a way you would call out if it was done to someone else!

>>7957702
(17/?)
>Since Queen and family kicked them out, C and S had nowhere to go. Regardless on how you felt about the A event, C and S had shit credit and owed A and Queenie probably about 15k$ total.
>They are forced to move. So, they might as well burn their bridges.
>First they visit C's hometown. They piss all their old friends off, including Princess. I don't know the details.
>Then, they make a farewell meet up. They have a mutual friend of A's host it so A would come.
>They were within the two week grace period before they had to leave Queen's, and BigDaddy overheard them talking about punishing A for A's actions.
>The meet up was at an ice rink. The plan was to knock A off balance and then pretend to fall on her with the skate blades. They would aim for her lower back.
>Then they would make her confess that everything bad she said about C and S was a lie.
>BigDaddy told A. A and BigDaddy's family were no longer friends because if C, but he did the right thing.
>A called the police, but they said they couldn't do anything.
Here is the comm drama/ rape subject:
>A told the event hostess. If she were hosting, she would want to know. The hostess knew nothing about anything, so A gave her a short story.
>Hostess told a few people in the comm.
>Meanwhile, A was talking to some friends and opening up to them. She asked them if what happened was rape, because she didn't think it was since she consented, technically. They said it was rape.

>>7957764
OH anon I know exactly what this crying and begging sounds like

>bf at the time was starting to try to cut me off of my friends
>didn't want me to go out with other people or coplay with anyone else
>btw he lived in a city two hours away
>I get that he's just insecure, so I just play it off
>start getting weird vibes from him when we're together

fast foward a few months of weirdness coming from him
>my cousins come to visit and I go out with them
>he calls me and I don't pick up accidentally because I'm at the zoo with cousins
>get home
>over 60 calls from him
>call him back, he's shouting asking where I was, with who, how long and why didn't I pick up, calling me names and shit
>I'mastrongindependentwoman.jpg
>I don't have to deal with your bullshit, shut up and go fuck yourself
>he started to cry like a baby
>I tell him to shut up, like he does when I cry
>he says he's sorry, he can't live without me
> well too late, beatche

>>7957798
Perhaps take some shooting lessons and buy yourself a gun? I'm from Texas so maybe I'm little too trigger happy on the idea, but it may be a valid idea, though it depends if that's allowed where you live.

>>7957792
It's a large comm in the south east, I think there was a brand tea party there in September? I'm not for sure, but I'm pretty confident in my suspicions.

>>7957774
He called and messaged me (before i blocked him) on a regular (usually weekly or bi weekly basis) for a good year and a half. This year he's only tried 3 times. I blocked his number so it alerts me but doesn't save messages.
I once ran into him on a bus, I ran off and he threatened to come to my house if I wouldn't talk to him.
The messed up thing is he never thought he ever did anything wrong and has no idea why I want nothing to do with him.

So I feel for this A person. My ex would always talk over me or put words in my mouth.
>>7957783
It's really unfortunate and common, especially with teenagers and relationships that started early on.
Even people who are otherwise confident people can fall into the hole without knowing, so people really need the awareness and support.
I never thought anything was really "wrong" until I talked it over with my boyfriend friend and he said how it was fucked up.
I had tried with other friends before but they either thought it was nothing serious (probably my fault to a point) or didn't know what to say or advice to give which didn't help.
So on that end I can totally understand A's mentality.

It's a very "looking from the outside compared to the inside" sort of issue.

>>7957802
You made me chuckle anon, good on you. Nice.

>>7957803
It's more like I can't for religious reasons. We aren't allowed to own guns. I also think in my state we can't carry one around unless you're a PO but I'm not 100% on that one. I do want to make take some self defense classes or something though. I've also taken to walking around with a small exacto knife I use for paper cutting as well as pepper spray.

>>7957506
Is it bad that I want anon telling the story to come in swoop A off her feet, boost her confidence and show her a better life and they live happily ever after in lolita?

>>7957800
I really hope they held the meet somewhere else without telling C or S

>>7957808
Seesh, well. Hopefully he either realizes what's wrong with him or just fucks off completely, but at least now I understand more of how the whole thing can happen, such as with A.

>>7957812
That works but I do hope you never actually have to be in a situation to use it. I've heard Krav Maga is best for self-defense, it's what they train isreali soldiers. Maybe there's a place that teaches it by where you live? I've been wanting to learn but have some medical issues that limit me at the moment.

>>7957813
Impossible. Anon is A talking about herself in 3rd person.

>have ex who was extremely abusive verbally, physically, and sexually
>get new boyfriend months after we break up
>new boyfriend is sweetest blonde angel that ever lived
>later on new boyfriend starts exhibiting obsessive behavior
>immediate red flag but nothing that would suggest he would harm me
>get call from ex one day
>boyfriend broke in his apartment and destroyed everything after beating the shit out of ex
>friend told him details about what ex used to do to me so he tracked him down
>ex too afraid to go to cops
>tells friends he was robbed
>skipped Anime Matsuri so he wouldn't risk running into us
>now completely understand people with a yandere fetish

>>7957806
All I can think of is ATL?

>>7957808
Thats kinda the issue with talking about abuse sometimes and why I never wanted to talk about it to begin with irl. Sometimes people play it off because they dont see all the factors. My friends and family believed me totally because they knew my ex was a scumbag with a history of sexually harassing women (not the saying hello on the street "harassment" either...more like when we were at a friends house he followed her into her room and said "We could have sex in here and anon would never find out" My friend noped out of that so quick). When it came to explaining everything to the police and religious higherups that was a bit more difficult since they were always like BUT BUT BUT (but you stayed, but you went to his house etc)

I'm so glad your okay though. It breaks my heart to see people broken by things like this....

>>7957800
(18/?)
>Now between these two events, C and S's trash talking, and messages getting scrambled/ people not keeping secrets... somehow it comes out in the comm that A is saying C raped her.
>Rape is polarizing, so people jumped all over each other picking a side.
>C and S milked it and said they were hiring a lawyer for defamation of character/ slander/ libel.
>I'm fuzzy on what is truth; I think everyone is. To my personal knowledge... A never typed or wrote that C raped her, nor said it to the comm UNLESS in confidence that I don't know about. I tend to go with what A says today if pressed... Abuse.
>C made a huge public, but vague FB post about how she was being persecuted in the comm.
>Everyone is confused because this drama didn't explode.
>C and S leave comm, and move in with S's parents... and join another big lolita comm. They actually fuck that one up too. (different story).
>C can't let A go. C is still obsessed with A. She also wants badly to be back in the original comm. She joins that comm's sister J-Fashion comm, and all the other X City specific FB groups. She still comes to the conventions here, even though there are plenty in her new state.
>A originally told people C was banned from our comm. This is not true, but A didn't know that. C spam messenged A about how she was going to kill herself/ kill A because A got her banned. A has corrected herself now. Technically C can still come to our comm's events.
>A lot of our comm still like C, so this topic can still be polarizing.
>This year, at our big anime con, C had her gf S dress up as A. She then proposed in front of Butch, a Percy photographer, a furry, and her mom on a sidewalk. It was cringey for a proposal.
>A is now really happy. She's still very friendly, and has a nice wardrobe. Maybe she could even be efamous if she tried, lmfao. More so than C, anyway. A doesn't care about that, though.
Next up: A Good Ending, Questions, What do you think?

>>7957820
I'll see if I could find somewhere that does that. I need something to defend myself. I live in a big city and get harassed all the time so it would be good to know anyhow.

>>7957822
Oh my god. That's so sweet and protective of you in a twisted sense, while I don't want to ever have my bf go beat someone up because that person has hurt me. It's still very cute. Made me melt.

>>7957824

>>7957827
I still say shame C. Or at least which comm. Also what happened to the kitties?

>>7957827
This is one of the reasons I don't do the comm scene. Everyone just has to get in everyone's business. The subject of A's rape should have been kept between the people immediately involved and maybe one or two of A's most trusted friends, it did not have to become common community knowledge.

>>7957753
It's not fake. I wish it was. You can verify all this if you try.
>>7957763
A was the only one she said it to, and no one believed A at the time. I'm not sure if she ever found out.
>>7957756
Her disease is so rare that she is the only Lolita with it. So, I don't think I can say :/
>>7957772
I'm so sorry for you and anyone like that. A had something similar. A is still in the closet to some important people. Open court would destroy that.>>7957800

Not to mention prosecuting lesbian relationship abuse is incredibly tough.
>>7957821
Nope, A only gets on here for the B/S/T threads, if that.

What made me get on here and tell this story was that I heard some people talking about it at a meet the other day. I know they browse cgl so I wanted them to see the whole story without giving myself away.

>>7957833
Oh yeah it was the ATL comm. I remember this drama now.

>>7957825
It's very hard like that, especially when you have no outsider's perspective. I really hate how I handled it after the pool part because it really was a mixture of confusion since I still cared for him at that point, but was scared, but felt pity for him and his problems.
I remember he got a psych soon after(young guy from NZ) who called me and literally made me cry over the phone, then called me a bitch for not wanting to be with ex which made me feel horrible and lead to the "date night" event because the psych guy convinced me I was a horrible person for not giving my sweet wonderful person of an ex another chance.
That part definitely fucked me up and is the only reason I didn't cut contact completely straight away, again I felt sorry for him and felt like I was a terrible person for not being with him.

I'm a lot better now, still have issues but no more pts'd esque night terrors, and they're more related to other things, and I'm less jumpy around pasty men5 of with dark facial hair and 'roman' noses(i.e 99 males in my area)

People don't really seem to "get it" that it's happening to their friend/relative unless there's physical abue, because then it's actually facing them and like you said it gives them a bigger picture so they can't downplay it.

>>7954648
I really wanna know who this is, which cosplay comm is she in?

>>7957827
>Queen and A ended up having a heart to heart and are now good friends. They just celebrated lilQueen's 6th birthday.
>Princess was introduced to Queen through C. They are now happily dating.
>A got Princess and Queen into Lolita. LilQueen wants to wear it too.
>The kitties live at A's house. Sadly, one of them died in an accident, but they've had long, full lives.
>I don't know what happened to C and S in their new state.
>A is too nice to post on here. I just get sick of people tossing trash.

>>7957883
name and shame c please, everyone should stay as far away from that bitch as possible

>>7957889
someone said ATL community

>>7957859
Yeah especially when dealing with men thats an issue (I hate to generalize but most women understood why i did what I did and men did the BUT BUT BUT). I felt guilted into staying too. It's always the guilt isn't it (besides the abuse I mean). Yeah that's the thing with sexual and emotional abuse. It's kinda insensible. People could see that I became very withdrawn and my personal hygiene took a nose dive but they couldn't piece together the reason why. It was always Oh anon is so strange oh anon is gross instead of Anon's ex is hurting her and telling her mean things so that's why she's doing those strange things.

I'm somewhat better now (I bathe and don't look like a hobo) but I still panic if I see anyone that looks like my ex walking around.In fact I did see him on the train once and it's like my brain shut down and my legs ran off the train on their own. Perhaps his "evidence" says he didn't rape me but damn I don't think consensual sex would scar someone this badly. I have diagnosed PTSD. Did that just come out of nowhere!?

If you guys filter the archive with search term ATL comm (as this comm was mentioned above by another anon), you'll be certain to find what you seek. Happy sleuthing!

>>7955360
Any more? This sounds hilarious and reminds me of a similar event that happened between me and an ex friend

>>7957893
That's exactly how I feel, I'm sorry you have full blown ptsd. The jumpiness can get really bad, I once shut down for a few hours. I'd suggest just trying to go out in places you know he won't be that are comfortable for you, and having someone with you since that way you won't notice anyone's face if you're busy talking.

I haven't gone in for an official diagnosis myself yet(bad experience as a kid, and a psychologist who was a neutral one that didn't do what it needed for me, not her fault), but I set up a consult for thursday. Hopefully it works out and I can then go on and better deal with whatever anxiety/drepressive thing I have going on.

I hope things improve for you too anon

>>7957896
I'll make things easier for them. Their names actually start with C and S.

>>7957515
me too, anon, me too

>>7957802
most young women cheat
most young men know this, and know its with someone they're too friendly with

insecurity is not abuse

though idk why he would want to stay with someone like you

not trustworthy and shit

>>7957910
I have my good days and my bad days. I try not to sit and wallow in self pity but sometimes I just have to have a good cry about all of this. At least I have lolita to comfort me. My ex didn't care for it too much so now I can wear what I want.

I hope you can get the help you need! I'm proud of you for doing something about it!

>>7957896
>>7957912
ERMERGERD I FOUND IT

I hope you can get A on here to see that everyone is really supportive and thinks she did the right thing. Maybe she'd be embarrassed to have all this personal information up, but I'm glad she can have a happy ending sort of. If you're reading, I only hope things can get better!

>>7957803
this is a stupid idea, don't take this advice

i have no issues with the 2nd ammendment, i own a few firearms myself. but idiots like this make responsible firearms owners look like fools

>carry one around unless you're a PO
currently 49 states have a conceal carry weapons permit, and 50 states have an open carry weapons law

a firearm is not the solution to your emotional issues, please keep the word "gun" out of your mouth

going after your "abusive" ex-boyfriend with a firearm is just lunacy

>>7957827

>>7957939
Did you not read my post that said I can't carry one anyway for religious reasons? I'd rather learn self defense to begin with.

>>7957896
>>7957912
Is this C and S?

>>7957893
In my experience, men tend to be more empathetic when it comes to sexual assault than the women I've talked about the subject with. The only time they'll question the girl is out of concern, like most guys I know would have been like "but why would she go back?" not to make it the girl's fault, but to try to figure out what is so wrong with said girl's life or mental state that she would continue putting herself in such a situation. A lot of girls I know are more quick to judge the victim and are under this strange impression that having a bitchy attitude and not leaving your drinks unattended is all it takes not to get raped. No, really, they think have a bitchy demeanor will somehow repel pervs at cons and rapists.

"Oh hey, check out that girl. I'm totally gonna force my dick in her-OH WAIT, now that I'm closer I can tell she's not to be fucked with, I better abort mission or she might bitch me out for trying to rape her!" said every rapist ever.

>>7957912
anyone have pics of holly?

i want to see if >>7957946 is true

>>7957952
Interesting how it's the reverse. The women in my life have been very understanding (the last time I went to court some of my friends got together and drew me pictures to comfort me. They would send them to me over the course of the day). I do know a fair number of sexual abuse victims so there is that. These are also girls that know I'm pretty much the least sexual person ever and that I tend to be very shy and submissive. The men on the other hand didn't know me very well and knew my ex a bit better so there is that also.

>>7957950

>>7957923
>most young women cheat
>most young men know this, and know its with someone they're too friendly with

What is it with beta men thinking cheating is somehow more of a female thing when it's just a proven fact that males are more prone to it?

>>7957950
>>7957962
Which one is C?

>>7957923
you know, I was going to reply and try to make you less dense, but I now see why other seagulls hate you.

>>7957976
The taller one?

another pic I got from the archive

>>7957976
C is the tall one.

>>7957976
C is the tall one. It's so sad what happened to A and no one should post pictures of her on here if they have them.
I had no idea of the full story it's so sad what happened to her. I wish A wasn't disabled because C isn't shit and I would punch the shit out of her if I was A's friend and knew this was going on.

>>7957965
Oh looky what I found.

>>7957982
Wow, she's actually cute, too bad she's crazy, she has so much potential. I'm wondering if S is going through the same thing A went through.

>>7957982
She's pretty ugly, but not nearly as bad as I was expecting. Anyone have her name? Tumblr?

>>7957994
Tumblr is driaumbra

From the story, I was expecting her to be better dressed and way more popular than 10 notes tbh she's just a bodyline fakeboi

>>7957967
i didn't say "only young women cheat"

most young men cheat too

quit your SJW bullshit

>>7957982
this chick wants to be the next jnig?

not happening

>>7957965
I generally don't stoop to sending anonymous Tumblr hate, but in this case I feel justified. Also, from her about me...

>I love art and I love photos. As a model, singer, actor, artist, and business owner I barely ever have time to my self but I am going for the whole picture everyday thing. It sounds like something to keep stable in my life ya know?

I can't even.

>>7958010
Theres juicy drama go shit up a different thread

I found photo's and "A" is really cute and well dressed but I agree with >>7957987 don't post photos on the thread as it could cause trouble for "A"

I feel so pained about what happened to you even though we are likely to never meet. I hope you are feeling better and have some kinder friends now who can look out for you.
If I ever see the dollfie for sale A I'll send you the link!

>>7958010
Tons of guys on 4chan like to talk about cheating as if it's somehow a female exclusive thing, so it's not much of a leap to assume you were implying it given your wording.

>>7958023
no they don't, you're just reading it with your own personal bias

>>7958026
How else would someone read it, you fucking retard.

>>7958026
... are you trolling? Or have you just never gone to /r9k/, /b/, /v/, or /pol/?

>>7955575
classic

>>7957929
linkage

>>7957982
for how she acts in the story i somehow imagined her to be a lot more attractive. She's average at best.

>>7957992
how could anyone believe that's the real deal? the bow looks so sad like it's melting. Pretty meh coord too

>>7955493
Yep this crap right here on why I don't loan friends any of my clothes. Mostly the taking forever to get it back, or never getting it back part. Has happened a few to many times in the past, and have a friend I let borrow a pair of socks, she said she'd take them home to wash them, over 3 years later I still don't have them back despite her saying oh yeah I need to give those back multiple times. Luckily it wasn't a pair I cared that much about.

I pretty much will only let a CLOSE friend borrow any clothing of mine, and only if I will be with them the whole day and get it back at the end of the day. Like a con I went to and twinned with my best friend, but everything she was wearing expect the bloomers, shoes, and accessories were mine. We stayed in the same room so I got everything back at the end of the day. Otherwise I probably wouldn't have lent them to her because I'd be obsessing about getting them back.

One of the Cosplay Deviant chicks tried to fuck my boyfriend when she was underage, but idk if that counts for anything.

>>7955563
I wonder what happened in the end and if the girl ever apologized.

>>7955396
I love this story

Does anyone have a comparison coord of where Stevie supposedly dressed up as the ex? Please crop their faces out though i'm just curious to see if she actually did copy her.

>>7958214
i think they're cute eh
cant be bothered to shoop at this point

>>7958214
Stevie's outfit. I did not find any pictures of A.

Cuold someone tell me how to find a picture of A?

I know it sounds pathetic, but I just really need to see her happy.

In the archive someone said you can contact A under Holly Atlas through facebook. I looked it up but there seemed to be only an older sales post available to view. A seems to have (reasonably) high security, so far I haven't really found more pictures and i cant be arsed to sift through comm or con pictures to try and find her, even if she'd be relatively easy to spot.

>>7958267
Holly Atlas Faris (on fb, but its not her irl name maybe)
her pic has a hat covering her face and her profile is private

>>7958280
God this is absolutely bone chilling when you know the back story behind it. What horrible people. It's like a horror movie still or something.

Honestly I'm a little revolted by this whole thread. Does the story teller know how A feels about having every terrible detail of her suffering posted to CGL with a hoarde of anons screaming MORE MORE!!

I know we're all united in our hatred of C but hasn't this thread sort of crossed the line? People are posting names and faces. I thought A wanted people to forget/only told certain people? Doesn't she have that right?

>>7957891
Yeah, it's ATL
>tfw I know who this is about, even though I don't cosplay and have never met any of the people in question.

I'm starting to think I spend too much time here, cgl.

>>7957923
Why the fuck haven't you killed yourself yet, you worthless faggot.

>>7957132
just out of curiosity, is this guy/girl a troll? cause I'm new to this board and either he/she is really ignorant, or trolling.

>>7958515
he is an annoying neck beard from /fa/ because they bullied him off their board and for some reason he thought we would hate him less.

>>7958515
Yes he's a reject from the other boards who thinks he's So Kewl and all us ignorant ladies fawn over his manly ways. No idea why the janitor hasn't banned him yet considering half the shit he spews is off topic.

>>7958250
If you go to Nelson Lau photography on fb, in the first album she is wearing CDC and looks amazing

>>7958593
Does A have a tumblr? Her coords are absolutely beautiful.

>>7958242
Wow, you can't even see her face. Classy.

>>7957982
that one is actually rather flattering

found pic related on C's homepage...

>>7958625

>>7958629
topmodel

>>7957511
Okay, serious question. If A doesn't want drama, and yet here you are telling all of /cgl this story and being very, VERY specific to the point where C would obviously know this was about her, why would you be saying all of this unless you either were A or A does want to publicly shame her?

>>7958642
this

I don't know how you could know 18 posts worth of dirt and not be someone incredibly close to A. And by spreading all of this information around you're also hurting her... What sad cow in this photo are you?

>my girlfriend takes classes with me at college
>because of our schedule, I drive her to her chem class and she takes the bus home because I'm at work
>eventually she tells me about this girl in her group that super fucking weeb
>like, the weeb most people were during middle school, naruto headbands, japanese every other sentance, yeah
>my gf likes anime and stuff but keeps her interest hidden
>one day, weeb girl sees her drawing a concept for a cosplay (my gf can draw really well)
>weeb girl flips her shit, demanding they be best friends
>now every class she has to hear about this girls ships, what cons she's going to, what anime she's watching, what game she's playing, what drama is going on etc. none of which my gf cares about, all while demanding my gf draw for her
>Girl continues being distracting all semester, my gf is too nice to tell her to fuck off so mostly she just smiles and nods
>Last day of class, after weeb girl whines about being hungry, gf buys them both something from the vending machine
>she miscounted her money and now has no money for her bus and misses it
>weeb girl is still there, her parents are coming to pick her up
>weeb girl offers gf money for the bus (which she forgot to mention she had when gf bought them food.)
>gf declines, saying she doesn't like taking other peoples money for free
>weeb girl tells her to draw a picture for her to earn the money
>gf agrees, thinking she'd draw a quick sketch and get the 15 cents she needed and catch the next bus that came in 30 mins
>Nope, weeb girl is not satisfied with a sketch, demands a full, artist alley quality drawing.
>Gf just wants to go home, show she draws her the picture really quick
>weeb says it's good, but then makes her color it

>>7958701
>after all is done, gf gets the 15 cents but the bus is long gone, by now I'm off work and am coming to pick her up.
>I walk in an meet the weeb, I hold out my hand and smile, saying "Oh, nice to meet you!"
>Weeb rolls her eyes at me and says "Fucking peasant."
>shocked, I look at gf, she shrugs, "She doesn't shake hands"
>we all walk down the crowded hallway while the weeb screams about penises and yaoi
>finally we leave
>later gf tells me weeb girl said she was going to copy the drawing and sell it at cons, gf just wanted to go home and complied
>we still see her at cons

>>7958688
While I really feel awful for A if all of that was the complete truth, I feel like a lot of the recounting of the story had tons of bias. "A" was continuously to be painted as this beautiful marysue with disney-princess kindness who did no wrong other than being a doormat. I only got this impression because of the little compliments anon added in about her here and there. If C was doing so much awful shit to her, those little praises would not be needed because the facts would speak for themselves that A is a good person.

Again I don't know anon's relationship to A, I assume it is a close friend who IS biased (because how could anyone but a good friend know all of these incredibly specific facts unless A let it all out to everyone in the comm directly from her own mouth... and if anon didn't hear it directly from A, how much is even real?) but it's just weird to me that anon is divulging all this information and then not answering valid questions such as the ones asking... hey, if you want them to be anonymous, why are you posting such crucial details to /cgl which is frequented by loads of lolitas?

If this is really what happened there is no doubt in my mind that C should be locked away. There is just something fishy about how anon is going about this whole thing. Maybe I am just jaded but stuff like that sticks out to me when people re-tell dramamonster stories and over-compliment/purify the person who was wronged.

>>7958739
There's the potential for bias, but I regardless feel that A was likely wronged.