/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

this thread is only relevant for people who cosplay for efame

Yaya is trying to take down cosplay with her.

Too many better cosplayers now. Run bitch kek! She's such a special snowflake.

I think this is pretty spot on. Ignoring the efame and all of that, she hits on a valuable point: Cosplay isn't the same as it was 10-15+ years ago. It's a vastly different scene now, thanks to the media and social networking, the ease of obtaining tutorials, supplies, even wigs that are ready to wear out of the bag for your character. (Gone are the days of dying and styling your cleo wig to perfectly match your character) Before, it was easy to obtain notoriety if you made your costumes well, even better, if you did some great skits. Now any attractive girl and throw on an ebay spandex suit and a wig and get a million fans. And it's kind of intimidating for those who are not, and want to get into the hobby, or are newly into it. It's also difficult for people who have been into it for over a decade and don't have time or interest in promoting one of your hobbies.

>>7942727
>We were sharing ideas, sharing how we made things, and people were starting to make really amazing things. Conventions were having cosplayers come out not as celebrities, but as teachers. People would share their knowledge and experience, and pass on what they know."

What a hypocrite. When's the last time she taught someone about anything?

>>7942754
+1

>>7942727
She's the one who killed it though? I mean, JNig did her part but HoC really took this crap to the next level.

>>7942760
She taught only efame, and now is complaining there's too much of it. Classic queen of cosplay.

>>7942727
Is Yaya finally realizing that she is getting too old to be an efame cosplayer?

>cosplayers come out not as celebrities, but as teachers
Says the one trying to shove her dick into anything cosplay-fame related and starting garbage like HoC.

>>7942754
Cosplay is dead.

Yaya ruined cosplay, she was one of the first coswhores on the scene that turned it into how it is today. Very hypocritical. Wost ambassador ever.

>>7942754
Does it MATTER that things are easier? That means more people get to enjoy it. Just like fucking technology. Gets cheaper so everyone can have internet. Who the fuck cares about hard work anymore if it's easier then the skill comes to execution

Cosplay has always been very serious business to Yaya. She never abused the system.

>>7942727
tl;dr "less people are sucking my dick nowadays, the good days are over"

>>7942754
Nothing has changed for people who just enjoy making costumes and don't care about m-muh e-fame.
If anything, readily available laser cutters, 3D printers, vacuform tables etc. make it easier than ever before to craft impressive costumes.

I think she means that there's no good online communities anymore. People hardly write on forums anymore, everyone is more interested in making their own Facebook fanpages where they mostly just post their photos. Even blogs with WIP posts are about to die. These days it's harder for newbies to get into the hobby and find a community, even though there SHOULD be more people into cosplay than there was about 10 years ago.

>>7942798
>These days it's harder for newbies

Well, too fucking bad for them.

>>7942793
This. She just comes off jealous that now everyone can participate in cosplay and can still keep their day jobs. Being efamous isn't worth shit anymore when everyone has their own fan pages.

>>7942727
>the biggest attention whore in the whole scene
>complaining about "cosplay celebrities"
Is this satire?

>>7942798
It's true that coscom, ACP and all are dead, but those were pretty shit to begin with.
If anything, it's easier than before to get into cosplay due to the overabundance of tutorials and thermoplastic materials that allow you to put together armor/props with ease.

>>7942727
Hilarious since she's almost never put out any tutorials herself and will never do "How To" panels at cons without demanding guest status and an art table for compensation.

>>7942798
How is it harder for newbies when it's never been easier to buy a good wig?
Also we can thank her for inspiring generations to follow her cam whore ego. It's a true statement but hilarious coming from her. She needs a reality check.
>it's only bad when they're not buying my prints!!

>>7942727
I think it's more like, her golden age is over and she's projecting...

I'm not a pro cosplayer, it's just a part-time hobby for me. I have no problem finding tutorials and asking for help. Also, when I go to conventions I'm almost always really impressed with the things other people do. Technology and skills keep getting improved, resulting in better and better costumes.

>>7942791
Oh yes.

Golden age is over for her, maybe. She's getting old and can't hide it, there's more and more impressive costumes even by total newbies who are like 15 years younger than her. 10 years ago it was extremely easy to get attention with a costume like this even by people who didn't know who this is supposed to be, now it would just be another costume among others(the photo is from a Finnish anime convention in 2004, this costume won the cosplay contest back then).

I'd say cosplay is going back to its roots when it was a nerd hobby for nerds, except with more improved quality of costumes. Too bad for her, I guess.

She must not be getting enough attention. But seriously how long did she honestly think she could continue this "career"? Her name means shit when it contributes nothing to the community.

>>7942829
The old days were amazing when you could finish your costume in the hotel room and got praised like a god if you just as much as ironed it. I prefer having comfy stuff like laser cutters and worbla around though.

*

>>7942840
Back then, pretty much if you were just in a costume it was enough for people to think you were super cool person because it was still so rare.

I think she has a valuable point but it isn't necessarily a product of cosplay.

With the speed and ease of access to the internet, and by extension, millions of people, we are becoming a generation who needs thing instantly. And also a generation who are more interested in hundreds and thousands of faceless, nameless figures being wow-ed by them than they are willing to be wow-ed themselves.

Does that mean cosplay is going down the pan? I think cosplay has become a more notable vehicle as an easy way to e-fame. But it's the same as drawing fan-art and popular pairings. There have alays been, and will continue to be, people who will use those vehicles to get where they want to be.

Removing these individuals with nothing more than a surface interest it comes down to why you, as an individual, cosplay.

If you're doing it because you enjoy the craft or the wearing or the performing or just expressing your fandom. Then no. Cosplay will never die for you.

If you've become hooked on cosplaying because people will take your photo and tell you how amazing you are, you're going to always be clawing around for your next fix. And more likely this will end you as opposed to end cosplay.

Because we have the internet it has openned up and enhanced this feeling of being able to get attention through cosplay. More so than just impressing your local scene.

The truth is that the golden age of a lot of things is over. We're in a technological age and will remain so for the forseable future.

>>7942863
I remember cosplaying Shizuo (I'm a guy) right after Durarara got popular in the west. It was just like the "10 hours of walking in NYC as a woman" video.

>>7942870
tl;dr format your post properly. Nobody is gonna read that.

She helped contribute to its downfall. I don't know what she's bitching for.

>>7942786
It doesn't really matter that things are easier. I like it that things are more accessible. But the downside of this is that because it's so much easier to obtain all these things, it comes down to things you can't really change (at least without a lot of money, time and persistence) as the determining factor if your cosplay is "good" or not. I donno, I guess I'm just old school because I determine quality by craftsmanship and skill.

>>7942754
+2

>>7942875
>I'm lazy so everyone must cater to ME!
Fuck off cunt

>>7942870
Whoa there!

I ain't reading all that shit bro

>>7942890
You can still win contests by making something absolutely amazing. Remember Blizzcon 2014? The hordes of cosplayers with generic half-naked blizz armor #3245 didn't win the award.

>>7942863
This reminds me of Otakon over the summer when I cosplayed Satsuki from KLK and even though I spent a shit ton of time on that cosplay it didn't even matter because I didn't stand out against the 500 other goddamn Satsukis.

>>7942911
Then again you probably picked the most popular character out of the show that was the most popular in the US during that time.

>>7942820
Sage for no contribute but this is well-phrased and reflects my feelings on the matter.

>>7942914
Lol yeah that's true. I just thought I'd get a little more appreciation since I was one of the few that didn't buy their cosplay off Ebay, but sadly anyone can just buy costumes these days and go. Kinda sucks the fun out of making it yourself.

>>7942911
>>7942863

This was exactly the problem with this past Katsucon, there was such a high concentration of above-average cosplays that it was incredibly hard to stand out from the crowd.

>>7942928
Yeah, thankfully most of them look like trash and are poorly fitted.

>>7942914
That reminds me, I got into cosplay when Naruto was just getting super popular in West and one convention was full of Naruto cosplayers. But back then those got most attention, especially SasuNaru "yaoi cosplay". Like it was enough to win a contest if you were just cosplaying Sasuke and even had the Sharingan lenses.

Now that Naruto is over I kind of really want to do a bad old school cosplay from it because I never got into the Naruto cosplay boom a decade ago. Maybe I'll buy cheap a black satin night robe for Akatsuki cosplay.

...I do not think she is just 32.

>>7943144
She's around 40.

>>7942956
With stuff like Naruto where the fandom used to be huge but has sort of died down, the number of cosplays have decreased but the quality has increased. Like instead of 1000 people just wearing ninja headbands and orange sweatshirts to jump on the bandwagon, there'll be a dozen people in decently made costumes. The fans who were around back when the fandom was huge and retarded have grown up and matured.

>>7942791
why the fuck would you be stupid enough to be doing a Domme fetish photoshoot while wearing a collar and chain? Or if she's supposed to be a sub, why is she holding the whip? What the fuck.

>>7942884
Attention, like always.

I realized the Golden Age was over in 2008-2009ish, around the time when Miyu quit and facebook became popular. That kind of signified it for me.

>>7943261
I kinda agree. When people left the usual haunts like coscom, ACP, and even DA to some extent to start up FB "Fan Pages" as they were called at first, is when I felt like the community was really changing. Suddenly, you weren't just a person sharing pics on cosplay websites, you had a FAN PAGE not set up by fans nor did you have to be particularly good at anything, but anyone could start them up and start self-promoting like they were legitimately talented and worth taking note of... which kind of feeds people's egos.

It's ironic that out of all the possible people it's Yaya saying these things. But I digress.

I've been cosplaying for around 8 years or so. What got me into cosplaying was the excitement of dressing up as a character I love, sharing knowledge with other cosplayers, meeting new friends who like same things and the feeling of accomplishment when my costume slowly comes together. It used to be this way, a lot of people coming up with each more creative ways to make their costume and to express their affection for a character.

I'm not saying there aren't still cosplayers like this out there, but in general, cosplay has become a lot more hollow than what it used to be. People abuse worbla to the point "tutorials" are nothing but slapping on layer after layer of this crap, thus every costume ending up looking exactly the same. People put up fan pages for themselves and act like famous rock stars and advertise their "cosplay brand". More people are making the hobby all about them, claiming it doesn't matter if you don't know the character, dismissing the very essence of cosplay. It's not about them cosplaying, it's about them putting on someone else's popular creation and riding on its success.

I see newbie and young cosplayers complaining how they can't cosplay a character nobody recognizes. From all this social media-centric neo-cosplay culture they have gotten the idea you NEED to become a famous cosplayer with thousands of facebook likes, otherwise you're doing the hobby wrong. It's no more about making costumes, sharing your fandom or any of that light-hearted stuff, not even about being admired, but being famous and having lots of fans.

The last thing I've noticed is all these vaguely Cosplay-related kickstarters popping up. People begging for money for anything, trying to tie it in with cosplay. "I'll make this slutty low-budget cosplay if I reach my goal of $5000!"!

And the worst part is that people actually support this. It's become a norm.

>>7943144
yup, that's a big fat lie. i followed her right when she was starting out, and she was like 4 yrs older than me at the time. i'm 34 now, making her at LEAST 38.

>>7943261
Didn't miyu only do like 2 costumes though?

>>7943362
I was never in the cosplay scene, but i can still say "cosplay is dead". Its all a popularity contest now .

>>7942754
Then what needs to happen is the continued support of people who work for it instead of those who just buy everything. While it may be easier the best thing for the members of the community to do is guide new members at every opportunity and let them no become intimidated by rich kids who just buy everything and how to tell the difference between hard work and hard cash.

Obviously she is attention whoring and trying to bring it down but just because a community changes and grows doesn't mean we need to jump ship the second something new comes along.

>>7942849
I blame SJW bullshit

Its not just the technology and internet, it is the fans getting lazy and being impressed by practically anything.

If anything you need to have a much more critical eye now but you don't need to be a bitch about it.

>>7943362
I agree. It really annoys me that there is this popular viewpoint that ALL cosplayers are sluts and ALL cosplayers just want 5 grand for their princess peach naughty photos. There's still plenty of us out there who still cosplay for the craft and love of the character, but until people stop showering the new wave of leeches with attention and cash, there's no reason for them to get out of our hobby.

"Golden age" is the wrong terminology for what's happened. Cosplay has broadened and evolved and it would be great if everyone could recognize that instead of dismissing us all as attention-grabbing sluts.

>>7942870

I would agree. Its ridiculous. I always felt this was more about the characters and putting on a show, not getting famous. Honestly the social networking bullshit is just a side effect but I think it isn't too late to really but a stop to this crap.

Golden Age or no its still cosplay. Not everything has to be perfect to be meaningful

>>7943362
Just teach people the way to do it right.

The people who are trying to make it this self centered quest for fame are simply abusing stupid people who don't know any better.

I think if we can guide the new blood in the RIGHT direction then we are going to see a much more positive and refreshing future. We need to find like minded individuals and try to put some heart and soul back into this.

>>7943634
Too bad the new blood doesn't give a shit about your opinions and never would. People like Nigri and every other famewhore to follow like Belle Chere, Ivy Diebeteuskitty, etc only cares about themselves and bastardizing a hobby for their five seconds of fame.

>>7943634
I run a relatively popular blog that gives a lot of cosplay advice. We do exist, but that isn't enough when it's the other demographic who's getting news coverage, attention, and cash. At this point you may as well just start calling them two separate things.

>inb4 "hardcore cosplayers"

>>7943638
>>7943641
Why not?

You could be the edgy apathetic cosplay hipsters.

You could at least try. What if it actually caught on?

>>7943651
You're acting like people haven't tried and haven't discussed this I don't know how many times before. You don't seem to get that people don't give a shit. As long as they're making money by being stupid whores, they aren't going to listen to you. I seriously don't know if you're new or just this far into denial. A neckbeard's money and online defense is all that it takes. Opposing these people, even when legitimate points are presented, is met with the apathy bullshit of ARMGHERD Y DO U CAER IT NOT RUINING COSPLAY SPESHUL CLUBHOUSE NERD XDDDD or it's someone focusing on the ancient retort of calling you fat/ugly/jealous.

It's an argument I've grown tired of having with people, which is why after ten years I left the hobby and went to lolita.

>Han gained experience drawing during grade school in Germany, when she created a manga comic called Cherry Blossom for an assignment [...] "It was about a Japanese girl who moved to the United States right after World War II, so she got bullied," she explains. "It was awful, there was racism and prejudice, and she got raped and then killed herself. It was the most depressing thing you could think of, but I wanted to write and draw something that was meaningful, taught a lesson and told a story."

>>7943657
>left the hobby and went to lolita.
Got some bad news for you son.

>>7942727

Welp it's time for her to retire and do what all washed up cos whore's do...


Porn.

>>7943657
Bless your post. Spot on!

>>7943176
Switch

>>7943673
No, you don't. I've been happy here and have had friends who were into this for years that encouraged me, along with other lolitas on this board, to try it if cosplay was making me that depressed. There are others who left cosplay for the same reason and have attested, both here and in my own comm, to feeling much less burdened by the switch.

>>7943657
Also, to add to this; Every single time myself or another 'oldfag' brought up how cosplay was in the past, we get shit on by people insisting that we're romanticizing everything and wah things were harder because wigs were so bad back then and I hate Suncoast baw baw. I wasn't even saying that I wanted to pull a complete time travel move, but the communities WERE different. Dressing scantily clad, even for a character, was a bit scandalous but it didn't (at least in my area) generate the amount of bullshit back then which it does now. I remember when you could be the same character as someone else and you ran up to each other in sperglord glee, because holy shit someone else likes this. Now, you just see five whatever that bitch's name from SOA is and they're all fucking throwing the stink eye at each other. I've had people defend Kickstarters and crowdfunding, because weh baw baw baw they're offering a service 2 us!1!1!!1 I'm paying 4 a service!1!1!1!

And, even in the end, when you mention how much this shit has damaged the hobby coupled with virgin neckbeards being incapable of understanding that you can in fact be a woman and not have J-Cups-- It doesn't matter. People do not give a shit and I got tired of fighting over this. Maybe cosplay will go back to how it used to be, but I really don't see that happening anytime soon. Certainly not when being "nrrdy XDDD" has become a byproduct.

Cosplayers are just a step above ravers, bronies, juggalos, furries, and brolitas.

>>7943709
I meant because the whole e-fame, kickstarter fake bs is seeping over into the loli community as well.

I've been going to cons for about 7-8 years. I feel like I used to see costumes that were way more detailed and put together better. Advanced sewing, embroidery, costumes that looked like they took weeks/months.

The last con I went to (Youmacon), I just didn't feel like I saw anything that amazed me. I don't know if it's because I'm just used to seeing amazing costumes, or if it's because people just slap shit together or buy things and try to wear as little as possible for attention nowadays.

>>7943657
Same here, anon.

>>7943747
Luckily, lolita is a fashion which means you can just wear clothes without interacting with the community, unlike cosplay which is a method of fandom community interaction and finding other fans like you. It's true you can technically cosplay without community as well, but the community participation element is much more important to its original purpose.

>>7943558
The whole internet is a popularity contest now.

I've been con-going and cosplaying for 15 years, around the same time as Yaya. It really was different. It was a smaller community, for starters. We had to make our own groups (does anyone else remember COSP?) and most discussion about costume progress and gatherings happened through mailing lists like that, or LiveJournal. And, my dear seagulls, there were hate sites then, too. There was an entire cosplay hate LJ. Cosplay Hell, Cosplay Fucks...all of this is nothing new. It's all been done before, but now it's being done on a larger scale. It used to be easier to make friends at cons because they were smaller and you could actually bond with someone over a costume or in a viewing room. Now, all of these awkward pandas are flailing around and yelling "bitch wore my prom dress" when someone has the same costume, and they have no idea how to actually talk to people. So it's not bullshit, things really have changed.

I've been going to cons for 12 years and to be honest, it's a better time for cosplay now than it ever has been before. The quality and quantity of costumes is up, it's easier to buy or make a costume, there's if anything too many cons instead of not enough, everyone has nice cameras these days, pretty much everything is better.

But there is a sort of wild youth that's gone. Back in the day there were less rules and regulations. Things were dirtier and it felt more real and more exclusive. These days at large cons you've got tons of people filming for their youtube channels or whatever, chronicling the con instead of being the con. As far as the efame thing, even back when coscom was in it's heyday the people with the most views were always the skimpily dressed girls. I honestly feel like, proportional to the size of the cosplay community, guys get more attention now than ten years ago. The only problem is that 75% of the time when mainstream media covers cosplay, it's "The 50 hottest girls of ___-con!" It's possible, and really pretty easy to ignore that stuff if you want to, but i is kind of a let down that that's probably what most people associate the hobby with.

>>7943759
Youmacon is a bad place to see amazing costumes, though. The venue is so large in comparison to the amount of attendees that you barely bump into anyone.

It also doesn't help that some of the better cosplayers don't wear their costume(s) for very long or on all three days.

I still managed to catch a couple though.

I still exclusively cosplay from anime. No tumblr-fan art shit or gender bent. I have my queue of characters from certain anime I want to do, then sit in my basement for months making my cosplay, one at a time. I just recently started to do multiple cosplays for the same convention and all I see is that the individual quality goes down. I'm just going to go back to one character per convention but with a 110 percent of my effort put into that one costume. I feel like people these days are getting worked up with how much exposure time they can get per cosplay per convention and it takes the fun out of it. I think committing to one character and being the character for a convention is the most fun.

>>7943261
You mean the other stripper who only contributed fap material? We sure know how to pick idols. And now with Blizzcon just hiring models to be cosplayers, yes it's dead if you're trying to get famous. But real fans aren't worried about not standing out. She's just jelly that coswhores isn't something to be proud of anymore.

>>7943709
>>7943747
Fellow former cosplayer here. It's true efame is part of lolita, but on the offchance I get jealous of a lolita with lots of likes, it inspires me to make better coords or do better makeup. When I see cosplayers with lots of likes it makes me wonder if I need a tit job, a social media agent, or to just spend another 500 hours making costumes I'll wear twice. One just seems a lot healthier and more relaxing to me...

>>7942727

This is clickbait for you sheep to give her free advertising for that comic book she's pushing and you all took the bait just as planned.

Good fucking job.

>>7943692
yaya was already a stripper before she got into cosplay

>>7944087
didn't click it. just came to bitch about her. nothing she says is worth reading.

>>7944106
You're still feeding the troll.

>>7944087
> implying anyone read the article
I can see you're new here, welcome. Ops post could have been "yaya calls all cosplayers whores in this article" and we'd all be arguing and calling her a hypocrite over that instead

>>7944119
A person posted an article detailing something a well known whore we all hate said. There's been discussion about whether cosplay is "dead" or not for quite some time. This isn't anything new. I don't get why you and a bunch of other newfags are obsessed with crying bait and troll at things that people just denounce, point and laugh at, then go on with their day. It isn't like this is one of those misogynist threads that everyone replies to.

>>7944121
It's still doing the purpose she wants. Free advertising for herself. She wouldn't go away like all of you would like if you didn't stop yipper yappering about it ever damn day.

>>7944136
I'm assuming that you meant she would go away if nobody talked about her. Sorry, newfag, you're wrong once again. Also..

>yipper yappering

Go be 12 somewhere else, please. That was excruciating to read.

>>7944127
This shit goes in patterns, I swear. Last month, it was all about crying SAMEFAGGG XDDDD at everything. Now, it's back to dubbing every little thing as baiting or trolling. Do people just read these words being used elsewhere and then try to just use them whenever they feel like?

>>7944141

yibber jibbers!

>>7943736
Nice bait mate

>>7944150
This really does make me think of some autist who thinks that The Boxtrolls was a good movie.

You know what I've realized? I used to think I was jealous I wasnt getting enough attention for my cosplay. When really I'm sad that other cosplayers aren't getting the attention they deserve. ..I see people who make the best Damn cosplays I've ever seen, with under 4k likes, and some idiot on tumblr with a premade usagi wig gets re blogged 5000 times. Or that one whore who wanted another boob job raised the 5,000 or whatever she wanted. She had like the cosplays, they weren't even good.
People get disillusioned anywhere and everywhere they see an unfair system. It's why people eventually riot against the upper class, why everybody hates wall street or reality tv assholes. Sure, you can argue that money or efame or fame or whatever doesn't actually make you happy, but those people sure look happy, and they surely didn't deserve what they have as much as someone else..

>>7944156
*she had like three cosplays
Sorry, phone typing

>>7944087
Speaking of comic, does anyone have a link where I can read this shitfest? I'd appreciate a few giggles round about now

>>7942911
That's why you whore it out and cosplay her kamui transformation. I still wasn't the only one and this wasn't even at a convention as big as Katsucon.

>>7944156
People always assume that it's jealousy when most of us just want these bitches to stop being leeches or just go the fuck away entirely. I'm sure there would be maybe a handful of jealous fat bitches projecting because that's just life, but people can't even pretend as if there wouldn't be less hate if some of these people just made their own fucking costumes. You don't need a tit job to be a good cosplayer. I don't know why the fuck it's even okay to crowdfund for something like that. It's a cosmetic surgery, you won't fucking die without it. A lot of these cosplayers either buy shit and don't give credit for who made it, use Party City costumes, or just outright have a half-assed costume and yet get praised to hell and back just because some naive fucker is hypnotized by lip gloss while people like Marty Gear are still warm bodied.

I literally don't have a problem with Yaya until she opens her mouth and talks about this kind of shit. She needs to stop behaving as if she's the ambassador of cosplay, because even if her opinion appeals to one group, there's always going to be another who disagree. However, if her main point was to be that conventions and cosplay is becoming more generalised, then I have to completely agree. I hate the big-titty cosplays as much as everyone else, but I don't think I can ever put her in the same box as someone like JNig. At least Yaya speaks her mind instead of posting selfies with dumb "hurr durr nerrrrd" captions.

>>7944185
>speaks her mind

About shit she knows absolutely nothing of or is guilty of having done herself. She and JNig are in the same box, whether people want to admit it or not. They've both exploited. Yaya just has exploited social media and people (a la tit service, being an escort, stripper, etc) for years to get to where she is and suddenly, all of this is bad? Lol, why bitch? It was perfectly fine when you used it to claw your way to the top, but now that you see Wonderland may have a new Queen you feel threatened about that crown being snatched off of your airheaded self? Pft, please. This bitch plays martyr complex every chance she gets.

>>7943724

For all the shit they get for being con-cancer, I still see that sperglord, love of the character, here to hang with my fellow fans attitude from the stuckaboos.

but that's why they're con cancer.

>>7944178

you know what happen. When fucking criticism get call cosplay bulling that what the fuck happen. Hell this board is 95% of the reason the community is so fucked up. Went vedetta and critisim got confused for each other and we let the fanboys and the main stream start pushing shit that we didnt like or do.

welcome back to high school nerds and its all your fault for not stepping up

>>7944192
Uh, what the fuck are you talking about? This place is blunt as fuck, aside from whatever random SJWs decide to wander onto her just because they got dropped in a bad cosplay thread.

As stated earlier, people tried stepping up.

>>7944165
This. I came here to laugh at her. Someone share that shit. She contributes to the cosplay comm by saving a bus full of children! The hero we all deserve!
>we all know someone behind the scenes had to tie her in the corset. I want to see that scene in comic form.
"The children are burning alive!"
"First let me take a selfie! We can sell them later to donate to their families!"

>>7944198
*here not her fuck

>>7944198

haha newfag. this place is shit and has been shit for years now. And guess what? This place is a mirror of the cosplay community

>>7944192
Hi Yaya!

>>794419
>>7944192
If anything is wrong with this board is that its too much containment. Not enough people are stepping up on other media, and the brave few who do get shut down with "LOL jellis fatty slut shamer" for pointing out simple shit like wearing a corset and a wig and your underwear isn't actually a princess peach cosplay.

>>7944208
>types like an illiterate fucktard
>expects to be taken seriously
>cries newfag when called out

Okay, you have fun with that. Let's all pretend that you were here six years ago because everyone apparently cares so much about your street cred.

>>7944198

Step up my ass. Hell we had people here that tried to make the community better. Remember Volpin? Kamui? ect. What did yall do? Got fucking jellous of people who where legit seagulls handing out tips and bashed them.

Like niggas, every time one black person does something good, yall motherfuckers try to bring em back dont with you instead of better yourselfs

>>7944218

>>Okay, you have fun with that. Let's all pretend that you were here six years ago because everyone apparently cares so much about your street cred.

sup bitch

>>7944219
Look where you are. Go back to fb Yaya.

>>7944219
>Everyone who is in this thread right now is to blame for something I want to pull out of my ass

Or, you could stop acting like /cgl/ is one entity and treat the individuals responsible as, you know, individuals.

>>7944221
>Be impressed by me, I am using a trip

Cool, mate. I do that shit when managing threads I run, too. Still not impressed by you or whatever street cred you're trying to push. You came in, speaking like an illiterate fucktard, and expected to be taken seriously.

She's now saying it was edited out of context. Hmmmm.

>>7944219
You forget Kamui is full of shit and had to grab onto the tail of Yaya to even get any kind of real attention.

>>7944232
Lol she didn't learn her lesson after being on a reality TV? The dictionary definition of which is literally "show that edits things out of context?"

>>7944236
Or that volpin is cheating scum

>>7944236
And, Yaya had to grab onto others in order to even get her attention. It's a cycle.

So vain she probably thinks this post is about her.

>>7944232
She does this every time after lurking here.

>>7944242
What's actually wrong with that, though? That's pretty much how any business or industry thing works. You can argue cosplay isn't really a business but it's certainly more than a hobby. Even blogs work this way.

>>7944245

>>7944214
This.

Everyone expects us to hold hands and just be nice to each other all of the fucking time. People aren't going to want to deal with people leeching and exploiting shit. I don't expect cosplays to all be perfect, but I do expect effort and this shit like crowdfunding and just donning a cheap ass shaper and some Spanx to a con under the guise of "cosplay" to be shamed. That isn't cosplay. If you want attention for that shit, go wear it for your boyfriend in the bedroom. Be an escort. Be a hooker. Be a stripper. Be a camgirl. Do porn. Take your need for validation somewhere else, because some of us just want to wear a costume and meet other people who like the shit we do without you and other touched-by-their-fathers girls mucking shit up.

>>7944249

nothing is wrong with it. People are just haters in general.

welcome to /cgl/ land of jealous fatties

>>7944249
Yeah, but you see, there is a difference between legit advertising rather than shouting about how great you are whilst equally shouting down everyone else. Particularly true when the product you're promoting isn't even the one you're trying to sell. That pretty much sums up "Yaya the Brand".

>>7944261
Oh come on Yaya, I thought you'd at least come up with some better comebacks...

>>7944261
But, Yaya, you've been getting fatter lately. You can't even fit into your Scarlet Witch or Wonder Woman without showcasing a fupa and a flat ass.

>>7944262

>>7944266
>>7944264

>>honestly thinking this is yaya

yall fucking stupid

>>7944261
>unironic use of the term "hater"
b8

>>7944270
You must like pretending that she's never known of this place.

>>7944253
Don't confuse the point though. Even Yaya got started by doing shady shit. People grow from experience but her complaining about it isn't helping. She should be doing what she's preaching, not trying to save humanity with her prints, but that's Yaya for you. She's only allowed to because it's "for a good cause". Because the poor really need to see rich sheltered brats dressed up as hero's pretending to be whores. It's like the definition of hero goes straight over her head and onto her ego.
Reminds me of the no make up selfies for cancer bull shit. Narcissism is real.

>>7944253
Yep. And this is why myself and other girls in the thread (maybe you? ) moved to lolita. Because this attitude is rightfully shamed there.
I suppose it's possible, in the future that lolita will become a fame whoring hugbox,; but I think it's a lot less likely. And I also feel pretty assured that there will always be groups of oldfags who band together, whereas in cosplay everyone just kind of got tired of it and left.

>>7944262
I don't even understand how she views herself as a brand, period. She's a 40 year old woman playing dress up and her time is running out. She sells calendars and prints. She has no real job. Maybe that's enough to live in the slums of Atlanta. I've never been down south.

>>7944262
>true when the product you're promoting isn't even the one you're trying to sell

My fucking sides

>>7944270
>not knowing how the system works

>>7944270
>honestly falling for b8
Okay newfag welcome to cgl. You'll find all your white knight essentials to your left.

>>7944283

>>being stupid enough to believe yaya would come talk to you on 4chan

>>7944286

is trolling yourself the new fad. teach me more

>>7944274
Not that anon, but I don't think it's her either.

Calling /cgl/ "land of the jealous fatties" doesn't strike me as how Yaya might address us, sounds like another seagull to me. Accusing anyone who has a dissenting opinion of being the object of the drama is like /cgl/ 101, they teach it to us in our mandatory lessons on being a bitter delusional cunt.

>>7944290
This literally proves that you don't know how this shit works newfag, 4chan is 18+

>>7944295
omfg just shut the fuck up we're not saying it's her we're saying gtfo with your white knighting jfc

>>7944293
>>7944290

>>7944278

>>lolita
>>where the drama is higher and your community actively made fun of a girl who got killed in a car accident

yup this future looks great

>>7944276
Or, how the only "big" charity shit she's ever really done was tsunami relief for Japan like every other weeb. She's a desperate Chinese woman wishing she was the Japanese hentai goddess she fancies herself to be.

>>7944278
I did, because I just got sick of the shit. I feel bad that I left my hobby, I honestly do, but I just got exhausted with the fighting. Getting through to people seems impossible. Especially when they're the naive, beta type who want to give you a ^___________^ look and insist that everything will be okay, maybe if you give them a chance they'll be a super funtacular friendsiey friend yay desu nya-- No, fuck. that. Fuck it. People have become such fucking doormats with this shit because any hint of criticism, even when warranted, is viewed as malicious and wrong. Between the pussy demeanor, the fat/jealous/blah rebuttals that come when someone knows their shit is caught and has no other retort, the crowdfunding, etc.. I'm just fucking done, man. I only thank nature that I haven't gotten fat and can fit into the smaller girl burando like MM. These people are chill, I need to stay here.

>>7944300
You're clearly not even a lolita, shouldn't you be off buying likes, coswhore?

>>7944303
>denying that lolitas are salty as fuck

Ignoring the shit posts in this thread, I think Yaya is now realizing being a "cosplay model" isn't a real job. Age is hitting her hard and she doesn't have much to show for it besides heavily photoshoped prints. She did this to herself so I feel no remorse.

welp...The truth is out..

>>7944309
Saw that earlier, gave me a chuckle. Wondered when it was going to come up here.

>>7944309
LOL.
OH. GOD.
SOMEONE FIND THE FACEBOOK POST WHERE SHE TALKED ABOUT "THIS PROJECT BEING ON HER TABLE FOR THREE YEARS."

>>7944309

one shouldnt hide what they said.

>>7944309
No wonder it's so shittily out of touch with the real con scene, the Surreal Life was such sensationalized crap...

>>7944313
Preferably before the janitor deletes another Yaya thread. To be fair, she's calling out cosplay as a whole so it's relevant.

>>7944309
>former America's Next Top Model winner gets offered spot for cosplay show
>turns it down to recommend Yaya

How the fuck does it feel to know you are such a basic bitch.

>>7944320
Its also a "cosplay in the media" article which is always a good reason for threads to stay

>>7944325

So here is the problem with that.

The pilot for heroes of cosplay was filmed 3 years ago at katsucon in February. I doubt that she got that offer

>>7944332

You know how long ago She was on ANTM right....?

>gets raped then commits suicide.
How the fuck would Yaya know shit about getting raped? Holy fuck that's offensive coming from her. She's on the wrong side to be defending rape culture. She advocates it!

>>7944332
Sweetie, she won in 2003. Do your math. Curry is a known WoW player and enjoys cosplay.

>>7944339
THIS IS SO FUCKING CHOLA.

>>7944336

That still doesn't match up with when she said she got the offer. Also who the fuck would go from modeling to cosplay unless.....that's right they saw it as a way to gain popularity easily.

>>7944339
>rape culture
quit it.

>>7944345
Maybe she liked cosplay as a hobby...? SHOCKING!

>>7944345
God forbid it's just a hobby

>>7944346
Not if she's trying to use it as another way to pander for attention. Bitch needs a reality check before basing a character off something she knows nothing about. Read the article. Sounds like bad fan fiction based off her sick fantasies.

>>7944345

Also, I don't remember HoC showing ANY katsucon videos on the show. Hell they show Anime Expo shots 80% of the time.. and she hasn't been in anything outside side shows here and there...Not like she's in a 24/7 photoshoot so she can't have side hobbies?

>>7944355
I understand it's a way to attention whore, but atleast put fucking quotes around it. Start mentioning rape culture and dumblrtards will start pouring in.

>>7944357
It was like, the first episode. Yaya claimed a certain costume was for a con, when she actually wore it and made it for Katsucon way before. The MLP girls featured in that episode were also donning the Katsucon cosplays, yet pretending they were made for that con in the episode.

>>7944362
I remember that as well. They had stupid fake shots of them rushing around pretending to be running out of time to make the costumes, but they already had made them long before.

> mfw when I stumble into this thread and Man Research by the Gorillaz is playing...yaya yaya yaya ya

kek

Her character uses electricity to send "shocks" up people's spines. After they read her latest apology for how the media portrayed her, using 4 men to carry her as she glided through the air.

>>7944362

Do you mean; Every costume they did for both seasons? Filming and wearing costumes already made at a con is not the same..

>>7944364
And, when people called her out on Facebook about it, her knights appeared to tell everyone to expect reality tv to be scripted.

>>7944362

And still that was 2 years ago. Those at katsucon 2011 will remember.

I really don't think cosplay is "dead." Just because you can buy a bunch of ready-made cosplays doesn't mean they're good. It still takes skill and craftsmanship to make a truly impressive cosplay. Yes, there's a bigger community, but to me it seems like that's just another way for the community to grow stronger and to share techniques, converse, etc.

>>7944369
It's obvious you don't speak english as a first language but what?

>>7944372
I know and it was retarded for them to have been running around, pretending to be making these costumes that they already had made for ages. Like her Camilla cosplay.

>>7944376
*Carmilla fuck this phone

>>7944376

I'll agree

That shit is stupid as fuck, but that's reality tv

>>7944375

I'm actually from the states.

Filming at a con and having someone wear a already made costume on film is not that same thing. Someone said they filmed at Katsucon because she wore a costume she made there on the show.

None of the costumes they wore on the show were made on the show, they were worn before between 2011-2013/2014 maybe sooner than that. But Heroes start filming in 2012 I believe?

>>7944379
The heroes we all loave started filming in 12 the pilot was filmed at katsu in 11 staring yaya and jnig

>>7944374
That's just it though. She doesn't consider it good business when it obviously should be. She should be fucking thrilled that more newbies are able to buy her stuff. But her ego is bigger than her own business. She wants attention, not success. Her downfall is being a shitty sore loser. If she was smart, she'd have focused on making better products and making more cash than selfies. But she wants to be the product. Not the teacher. She's just hoping the competition drops off and she can start selling more prints again. Not that it will. Anyone can do what she does, and she's scared.

>Golden Age Is Over

what the fuck does that even mean? i dont recall any "golden age, ever.

>>7944379
The did film the pilot at katsucon though. The pilot ep in this case is like an OVA.

>>7944384
This reminds me of that time when she made a panel called "advanced cosplay techniques" and all it was was just her talking about herself, social media, being cosfamous, etc. Nothing actually helpful for newbies or shit about making costumes.

Newbie here. I've lurked this board since 2009 when I first discovered cosplay and became hooked. I never actually cosplayed because I was too much of a fatass. I introduced some of my much skinnier friends to it, and because I had prior sewing experience, I taught them to sew and helped them construct their costumes. I went to cons with them and watched them get lots of attention and make all kinds of friends, while I stood back in normal clothes taking their pictures and crying on the inside that I couldn't do it with them (feels).

It's been about 5 years and I've lost 50 pounds. I'm now 10 pounds away from my goal weight and I can finally see what my face looks like without layers of fat, so I know now who I can pull off. I've just now begun to plan out all of my future cosplay plans, and all of these characters are ones I hold dear to me.

I'm beginning to feel like it's not worth it, though. You're all right, it seems like the good days are over, and I've heard that a lot of the old school cosplayers have left the hobby. And yeah, there seems to be so many cosplayers that don't give a shit about the characters they cosplay, they just want to cosplay them to get attention.

For instance, it's always been a dream of mine, ever since I discovered cosplay, to make a spot-on, historically accurate Link cosplay. Link has just been so dear to me, ever since I was all but 5 years old. He was my childhood hero, my inspiration. But lately, I've been seeing so many coswhores slut him up with pasties and heels, not knowing a thing about him, and they've received more attention for it than most of the Link cosplayers who stay true to his character (with the obvious exception of Pikmin Link, but that's mostly because she works for Nintendo).

I might try it, but I don't know how long it'll last. I don't want a facebook and I don't care about fans, I just want to do my childhood heroes justice.

(sorry for the tl;dr, I just wanted to share).

>>7944392
Kind of want to hug you right now, anon.

>>7944392

>>7944390
This. I used to be her biggest fan and bought all her shit until she became all drama and shared only her image instead of her skills. Kamui was the hero in that aspect, even she can get a little big head but she actually tries to share knowledge and doesn't horde it like it's the only way she can be successful. Gotta respect the one who's willing to share then the asshole ambassador who tries to monopolize on fandom.

>>7944392

Before I call it a night anon I'll give you a bit of advice from an oldfag. If you have been here since 09 you've seen the change in the board and the attitude in this community change due to fb. Cosplayers grow old and either leave or help the community in other ways. ( a lot of your big time con staff are former seagulls). My advice is to cosplay for you and no one else. I'd you aren't true to you, than who are you?

If you are not having fun why the fuck are you here?

>>7944392
If it makes you feel better anon I cosplay characters I like and not to get attention.

I wish I could hug you so much. Or marry you in a non creepy way because you seem to be like me.

>>7944392
>You're all right, it seems like the good days are over
Not by a long shot. We complain a lot and some points are good, but overall cosplay as a hobby is in a great place.

You can make money being a commissioner. You can make money in reselling old costumes. You can make money selling prints. You can make money as a photographer. That is actually really fantastic, because cosplay used to be a very fun money sink. You're not going to make a living, but you might be able to break even. Even stamp collectors have value to their hobby and who doesn't want to make money doing what they love?

We have more tutorials and better access to materials than every before. Even novices can learn and purchase the materials to make something great.

Social media means that it is easier to meet local cosplayers. Coscom was very general, but facebook allows you to connect with people attending individual conventions. It's also very easy to contact cosplayers and ask them questions or see how they made something.

Sure older cosplayers are leaving the hobby, but new cosplayers are joining and some are older as well. There are people who are 40+ who costume as a hobby and they look at Yaya as a newcomer so don't feel like you're too old. It's about finding the right people and the right convention - just like clubs ;)

As for what other people do... as much as we want it to be our business it's not really effecting our lives. If they don't know the character it doesn't devalue the fact that you know yours, in fact it makes you much more interesting.

> I don't want a facebook and I don't care about fans, I just want to do my childhood heroes justice.
You don't need facebook or fans to have fun making or wearing a costume. Go for it anon.

>>7944392


I've been in the scene since '04/'05 Anon listen to >>7944417

I was around when Yaya was selling her stuff on the cosplay.com store. It has changed alot ya know, back then literally 98% of the cosplays at Blizzcon would be considered godly because resources and supplies were so hard to come by. Cosplayers were respected for keeping their little hot glue secrets and such. Now a days, it'll show if you're in it for the fame or if you're in it for the fun. Trust me.

>>7944422
This was all read in Winnie the Pooh's voice.
It's time for bed.

More like the end of her "Golden Age" she's past her prime.

>>7944425
>>7944422
>>7944421
>>7944417
>>7944398
You guys are definitely right. I should cosplay for myself.

Though, I meant to add that the friends I mentioned in the first paragraph all lost interest and we lost touch, so I don't really know any other cosplayers. That's a major obstacle for me, aside from everything else.

As for >>7944417 's question:
If you are not having fun why the fuck are you here?
I mostly come on /cgl/ to look at pretty pictures and to get tips/inspiration. Sometimes I read threads like these. Lately it's been out of habit.

>>7944404
;_;

>>7944313
I dont have any FB post but in this youtube video of HoC cast talking about how the show was originally called Yaya's World. http://youtu.be/nIxVfeZR5WY Starts at 42:11 But then again the dude does say that she was approached maybe after Adrian Curry recommended her? Though I could have sworn there was something written by Yaya claiming she went to SyFy with the idea.

>>7944392
If you don't do it, you'll regret it
If you do do it, you might regret it, but not as much as if you don't

>>7944231
Different dude but Fang has been here for a long time.

>>7944309
>mfw I know 2 of the persons with blurred names

I didn't know they went to /cgl/ too

>>7942822
kek lel

I dont even

>>7942804
What the hell are you talking about. Thanks to social media its a lot easier to do the following

>Find/upload/tag cosplay photos
>Organize/Find cosplay gatherings
>Coordinate cosplay groups
>Organize/Find meetups
>Stay up to date with conventions
>Keep in contact with those you met at cons

People are always quick to forget the good along with the bad

>>7942727
yaya han is beautiful

>>7943903
All the attractive cosplay girls from all the eras of cosplay have been "fap material". Miyu was the original JNig. She was just way hotter than JNig and far more mentally unstable lol

The difference between famous cosplay girls then and now is only that the ones from before cosplay went mainstream in the age of social networking were actually fans of the characters they cosplayed. They were still attention whores but they were at least genuine fans. Now cosplay is just an avenue to efame. Girls like JNig, Ivy Doomkitty, and Vera Baby started cosplaying for the sole purpose of getting internet famous. Oldschool cosplay girls like Miyu, Alisa, and Lindze cosplayed because they were really into anime and vidya.

Yaya started off as a fan and got addicted to the attention. Now she's doing it to feed her narcissism just like the rest of them.

>>7944385
We're in the Silver Age now. Followed by the Bronze and then the Modern Age. Crisis on Infinite Earths and Infinite Crisis happens somewhere in between all that. And then at some point we reboot the entire continuity with the new Cosplay 52.

>>7943657
>Opposing these people, even when legitimate points are presented, is met with the apathy bullshit of ARMGHERD Y DO U CAER IT NOT RUINING COSPLAY SPESHUL CLUBHOUSE NERD XDDDD or it's someone focusing on the ancient retort of calling you fat/ugly/jealous.

This. Oh my god, this. When I try to discuss all this pressure for cosplayers to partake in social media whoring and all the things that's wrong with the current cosplay scene I get the exact same responses. Those who cosplayed only to get attention to begin with are thrilled about this shift in the atmosphere when they're finally allowed to grub all the attention and popularity they wanted, even money. And those who are casuals think Jessica Nigri is the god of cosplay and disliking her only means you're a jealous ugly fatty and/or slutshaming women. I can't count all the times on my fingers I've had to explain in depth why I don't think Nigri/Any other attention whore is the best cosplayer evr!!!!XDDD and what damage she is causing to the whole hobby. OMG UR JUST MAD UR SPESHUL HOBBY IS MAINSTREEM NOW LOL STUPID BITTER OLDFAG !!! XD

But honestly, even all those FB pages are so fucking cringeworthy. The WIP photos mostly consist of a new wig and a shitty "make-up test" and non-cosplay related fluff. When they try to take a stand and write about current issues in the cosplay community, it's always the popular side of the "everyone should be a able to cosplay whatever they want" debate and they ultimately end up looking so ridiculous and pretentious you could play the cornball bingo game when reading it.

>>7944357

How is anyone blind to the very obvious shots of our lord, The Gazebo?

>>7944537

That's not what it means...

>>7944676
Fuckin lold hard

>>7942727
>she gets less poopular
>thinks the whole of cosplay is getting less popular

>>7944762
my bad, I had a lot to drink

>>7943747
Lolita is a hobby that doesn't have shit like this in the same quantities, though. I mean sure you have the girls trying to be efamous and shit, but you need to actually be pretty/have lots of brand/know how to coord properly to be recognized, and even if you did manage to be recognized, it's still not on the same scale as Yaya or Nigri's levels of attention whoring.

>>7944191
So much this. Anyone who says that cosplay for the love of cosplay is dead just has to look at any of the fandom circles. They're like their own mini microcosms of the way cosplay as a whole used to be - very little efame seeking, and lots of character love and hard work. As much shit as people give the popular cancer groups, they're a lot closer to the way cosplay as a whole used to be five years ago.

Cosplay is still going strong, just not for the current faces of costume, sorry but you put yourself out there, so don't be surprised when younger faces pop up and steal your spotlight as age and wear shows itself on your haggard faces. Those crazy con schedules, travel, and shit catch up to you! Then again if you call yourself the Cosplay Ambassador, Queen, or whatever the flavor of the week is, you've been sniffing too many fumes from your spray paints, thermoplastics, and whatever else was used in your cosplay.

The cosplay fans, the ones doing it for fun, and not glory or using it to break into a full time job are sill having a fucking awesome time!

>>7944491
Different anon, none of us give a shit. That's the thing.

>almost 2015
>still cosplaying
>shiggy diggy doo where are you

>>7944313

Change? shit

I guess change is good for any of us

Whatever it take for any of you seagulls to get up out the cosplay scene

Shit, I'm wit cha, I ain't mad at cha

>>7944300
>actively made fun of a girl in a car wreck.
What? I was in that girl's comm and never experienced this. Although, I did see assholes asking her parents about buying her clothes ffs.

Yaya never learns the fact that she's a walking PR nightmare, what else is new

>>7945286
Based anon

>>7944669
lol Miyu wasn't a fan of any of the shit she wore. She was the most pathological liar of all.

>2014
>still giving a shit about yaya han

>>7945370
this


God, Yaya.
>earn money with cosplay
>be famous cosplayer
>"lol cosplay is over"
Why the hell would you do that?!

>>7944653
Do you really think so? Personally, I've never really understood what people find attractive about her. Her body is okay, I guess... but she has such an ugly, flat, unfortunate face imo.

>>7945455
Her body is gross, though. She looks really different in person compared to photos. She always looks like a bloated chola with a haggard face.

Ehhh, it's not really. I've been a part of a boat load of different nerdy hobbies, and I discover that when you start getting caught up in the politics of it, it's not fun anymore. When I started larping, it was awesome! Got to run around dressed as a knight and beat people with foam sticks! What's not to love! Then I started getting more and more involved with the inner workings and started to hate it. I burned out and stopped doing it for about a year. I'm back in it now with the same feeling I had way back when (that being "Holy shit, hitting people with foam sticks!" again)

That being said, I've been cosplaying for a few years and I just recently almooost got caught up in the politics of that. I was able to catch myself before I dove head first into that again. Now, as it should be, cosplay is for me to improve my craft, make awesome costumes, go to conventions, get trashed and have fun as the cosplay gods intended.

Seriously, if you like a medium so much you start to get caught up in the flame wars of the internet, you are going to start hating it. That might be what she means when she calls the golden age over. It might be HER golden age that is over, but for me and my friends, that shit has just begun!

>>7945465
Haha, I suspected as much. I sort of figured that the only thing she had going her were her (I'm assuming fake?) tits, but I didn't want to jump to conclusions, as I've never actually seen her in real life.

>>7945388
>pathological liar
>only famous cosplayer to come out and tell the truth about having been a stripper, not making all of her own costumes, and having had plastic surgery

Pick one. Miyu was always refreshingly open and honest. She had a lot of problems but she didn't bother to hide them.

Dear Yaya,

I think cosplay, cons, and the internet are bad for your mental health. I know you don't want to consider this but please humor me for a moment and keep reading what I have to say.

You know how you acquired the notoriety you have. It wasn't all real at first - you had to make it that way. After a few years of self-promoting you did. At first you were aware that the "you" you present online was a tailored version of who you wanted to be seen as; but we eventually become what we're pretending to be, and now you have buried the parts of yourself that you don't want to acknowledge. You're a cariacature. You don't like yourself without paint covering your face. You spent thousands of dollars to get plastic bags full of water inserted underneath your skin to gain more approval from people you don't know, people who's attention you crave even though they're not your friends, family, or your lover. You seek attention for your appearance, not your abilities, intelligence, or talent. This is not good for you.

You are valuable. You're wonderful as you are - without makeup, without showing off your half-naked body in skimpy clothes, without putting on a fake personality. You were created to experience being loved as you are. You were created to learn to love yourself as you are. Cosplay and internet fame are just pushing you further and further away from that.

Take a step back from all the extra layers you've gotten addicted to. You're addicted to the virtual mirror you're staring into as you read this. Take a break from cosplay and the internet. Stop obsessively reading what people say about you on places like /cgl/. Stop wearing makeup for awhile and learn to feel beautiful without it. Take a few college classes. Learn to feel valuable for your mind rather than your body. Learn to be satisfied with just the attention from your boyfriend instead of the attention of other men.

I wish you the best.

Love,
Anon

>>7945484
They are fake. They make her look so disproportional.

I use to be a Yaya fan but over the years, she's gone from putting her heart and soul into costumes to mega attention whore who just pumps out costume after costume. Her Sonico was horrible.

To a point, I agree. When I first started cosplay, I obviously wasn't very good. ..But, shit, I was having FUN. Being with other people who loved the same things I did was an amazing feeling and I felt like I fit in. It was nice.

But.. years later? It feels like all I care about is accuracy and appearance. I rip people apart for their 'bad' cosplays and probably contribute to the whole fear of being posted on the internet.

This stopped being about fun for me, at least, mostly. This now became looking great and trumping others around me. I /have/ to look great lest I risk getting attacked by the very same group I was apart of. The 'elitists'.

>inb4 stop caring what others think
That's not the easiest thing to do. Being humiliated feels like shit. I'm hideously hypocritical, I know, but it's a vicious cycle that's hard to break.

>>7945555
Are you me? This is truth, probably for a lot of anons here.

>>7945585
Nah, some of us just don't feel like dealing with attention whores shitting up cons. We go to have fun and make friends, not to deal with people like Verababy, Yaya, JNig, and anyone else who tries steering cosplay into some direction because they were touched by their dads.

>>7945580
Link pls ty

>They cosplay for free

>>7945580
Gross. They look like they're about to pop.

thoughts?
I personally agree with Cifera. I've been cosplaying since 2011 so I've seen the competitiveness and popularity go up a bit. but I think your experience is more what you make it to be I guess (ie I dont give a fuck about Yaya or Jnigs I just cosplay to have fun with my friends and they do the same)

8-10 years ago was when Yaya was attending conventions as an escort/S&M model. If she wants to name that her golden age, you know what, sure.

>>7945790
>since 2011

That explains your post.

>>7943362
Yeah, it's depressing when you hear people cry about how they don't cosplay niche characters because not enough people will suck their dick.

>>7945790
I agree with her post. The scene 10 years ago was smaller and comfier, but I do love the bigger size and more readily available materials/wigs/tutorials. Fuck having to dye wigs.

>>7945790
Eh I'm sure it's easy to say if you're epopular. Say what you will but I agree more with yaya. Also yaya at least bothered presenting two sides of an argument, this girl picked the worst era and all the worst Things about it so of course it sounds bad

>>7945790
>3.700 facebook likes
>epopular
If anything, Yaya's opinions are based on the fact that her own popularity is declining.
Not to mention that she complains about e-fame and people cosplaying purely for attention, when she is THE person who helped popularize that behavior.

>>7943362
>Wants to cosplay from an obscure game
>Can't find a tutorial/commissioner to do so.

>>7945790
A lot of those materials she listed were available in 2003. Maybe she was too dumb to find them.

>>7945884
Thermoplastics were awful compared to Worbla though. Fuck having to throw away scraps of Wonderflex.

>>7945884
Back then the best thing available was sintra aka foam PVC and the only people who seemed to know about it was Stormtrooper cosplayers.

>>7945878
Why... don't you do it yourself?

>>7945790
I don't know what her point is, though? Back then all the shit people now have access to wasn't available because cosplaying wasn't as well known as it is today. The internet made it easier for people to share tips and tutorials about new materials to work with. It isn't that you didn't have those materials available, but rather that you didn't have knowledge of them and the fact that the community was much smaller.

>>7945790
Some of us still don't have access to colored contacts because the cost for our prescriptions is prohibitive. Or there's some people that can't wear them at all I know.

>>7945580
Good god, with that face she needs 'em.

>>7945987

I don't want it to look like shite.

>>7945987
Oh forgot image.

I never made a cape before, I never made armor before and I can barely sew (The most I did was a shite KOF cosplay.)

It's an obscure game so I wanted to be accurate as possible but because it's an obscure game I can't find any tutorial or help from people who did it before. I might be able to do the sword ok but everything else no.

>>7946031
>>7946035
step one: buy practice fabric (approx 50c to 3$ for 5 meters or so)
step two: practice faggot you can do it

>>7946039
Not a rich faggot so practicing would cost too much money considering that I'm stupid as fuck anyway with my social anxiety disorder that and I don't want to end up on here so I think I'll just go back to lurking.

Thanks anyway.

>>7946050
boohoo you won't even try with 5 yards for 50 cents? muh angziayti
there's even a help thread for patterns I would've gladly explained but looks like I shouldn't bother

I am glad Yaya's age of cosplaying is over. Maybe now people will go back to doing it for fun and as a hobby instead of trying to have eFame careers out of it.

>>7946050
You can practice with old bed sheets. You can work get cheap fabric off the roll, or even cheaper from the remnants bin. The cost is incredibly small, and much less than it would be to commission someone. Stop making excuses up excuses.
The only reason you won't practice, is because it is work and you would rather be lazy than try something new.

>>7944136
>if you ignore it, it will go away
Are you one of those kids that tried that on your bully and got mad when he just beat you more?

I really miss when cosplay was about meeting other fans, and creating a group with near stranger you met on forums and meeting up at local cons In that respect, cosplay definitely is dead. It doesn't feel like a large community movement, or a vehicle for fun and acceptance, I see it now as a way for people to gain attention and be even more exclusive than before, its not a big community group hug where you can stop and talk with people at cons, its a popularity contest now and it really has hurt the general vibes.

I miss 2005-2009 for that reason.

>>7945489
Why has shit become copypasta?

>>7946534
Because it's 100% true and extremely well-written. I think Jnig and Yaya should take it to heart.

>>7945790
I don't know if she's missing the point on purpose or if she's just a fucking idiot, but I can't believe she's making up straw men like this. The worst thing is she's not the only one I've seen commenting like this on Yaya's point. The point is that people now rarely have genuine interest in the character because social media has made being popular and e-famous a more important aspect than liking the series/character. Nobody said OH COSPLAYS WERE SO MUCH BETTER IN MUH DAYS DAMN THAT BROADCLOTH AND ALUMINIUM FOIL LOOKED GOOD. But they're making it about the technical details such as all the available materials and knowledge and photo quality even though nobody mentioned a thing about them.

>>7946395
My thoughts exactly. Cosplay has become a contest for who has the most facebook likes, who wins the most contests, who makes the new fad cosplay first, who gets the biggest group, who is the most popular, who has the best figure etc. It's really sad and I miss the time it was about meeting new friends via the same interests.

>>7946799
Cosplay is still about maing friends and meeting up for me. If that's not your experience anymore you've turned to the dark side and you've become what you hate.

>>7946754
>The point is that people now rarely have genuine interest in the character because social media has made being popular and e-famous a more important aspect than liking the series/character

People keep saying this, but not once have I ever seen a solid example of this being true. You sound like one of those people that whines and cries that Jnig is a fake gamer girl or whatever.

>>7946939
It's not that she's a fake gamer girl, afaik she actually is a gamer. It's that her cosplays are always tittified and revealing and made solely for the sake of getting attention from neckbeards and others.

>>7946943
Sure, but her slutty costumes don't make her any less genuine of a fan.

>>7946950
No but it does make her look like a desperate whore. Her and every other flavor of the month.

>>7946939
>>7946943
Plenty of people have spoken out about how she doesn't actually give a shit about video games and rarely plays them herself

>>7946939
Try panhandle (ashamed I share a state with the girl) cosplayer Alice Infinity. She cosplayed Ryuko from Kill La Kill and admitted she had never seen the show but was doing it because her "Fans" wanted her to.

There is some truth to this statement, just few and far between.

Pic reference

>say something controversial
>gets attention whether its right or wrong
>wins

Say what you want, but as far as marketing herself Yayas a damn pro

>>7947281
She looks like PT

>>7947281
People gave Kamui shit because she did the same thing with her Diana cosplay from League of Legends. Never played the character, never played the game, didn't even like the character. It's buried somewhere on her facebook but I'm sure she'd deny it now.

>>7947523
Calssara cosplays characters she doesn't know all the time and she's super popular. The League of Legends cosplay for example. At least she admits it.

>>7946939
I wish I was this naive.

>>7947523
Wasn't that the case for most of Kamui's stuff though? I remember someone digging up her WoW account and discovering she only ever played up to level 20ish.

I'm surprised that yaya didn't do damage control with this yet. Every time she did something that raises eyebrows she had to defend herself in hopes to keep her fans. It's dandy and all but she did this every single time just so people can forget about it since she's the queen that never done wrong. This is what I don't like about her.

>>7947572
I would love to see Kamui's /played in Diablo, Wow or Starcraft. She did costumes from all of these and I doubt she plays any of them more than once.

#SHOTSFIRED

>>7947572
>>7947692
That'd make me disappointed. I personally have way too many hours dumped into all of those games (and the Warcraft games that aren't WoW as well) and I've always liked her and her costumes. She's a trip here, so she may be lurking.

>>7947572
The highest night elf female druid named kamui on EU is level 71.

She never even touched the last 3 expacs.

>>7948424
>71
>not 80
How could someone only play 1 level into the best WoW expansion?

>>7945388

Nah Miyu was a huge weeb. I knew her back when she lived in CO. Not saying she wasn't an attention whore because she was but yeah. She cosplayed some pretty obscure characters. Her Eva Friedel was on point. Too bad no one would really know or appreciate Memories cospay anymore tho.

>>7948719
oops dropped pic

>>7947572
Really? I've always disliked her as a person but I've thought that at least she knows this stuff she's cosplaying from so it's not the worst kind of attention whore. This is interesting indeed.

>>7944339
I loved this photo set. She looked so dead inside.

>>7948719
You think she actually liked or even watched that anime? It was a huge dress her mom could make her so she could look pretty. She was one of the original attention whores.

Why is it so hard to believe that a girl might have watched and liked a show at some point? Its not like these girls are claiming to be rocket surgeons or something

>>7949315
Miyu nearly did. She talked about how into quantum physics she was tryinng to do in community college or what ever the fuck it was. She's a joke.

>>7942727

The golden age of cosplay is only ending because she's losing her spark in the community. However the influence of social networking, tutorials, e-fame (ahem Yaya) hungry cosplayers riding the T&A/skimpy costume train to gain legions of fans and so on have made a huge difference in a negative & positive way to it all; there's no doubt about that.

Bigger and better cosplayers are out there. The golden era is just beginning for many newcomers to the hobby or those who've even been in it for a long time, I wouldn't see it as ending at all. More like evolving in a way. Yaya Han just needs to disappear. Ever since Heroes of Cosplay came out and she claimed to be an "ambassador" she can kindly just fuck off. Like hell she is.

>>7949368
'cuse you. It's "Queen of Cosplay" now.

Here's a bucket to throw up in.

>>7949252
If she had just wanted a big pretty dress I don't think she would've randomly picked one from such an underpublicized sleeper hit of an anime that no one has ever heard of. When she debuted that costume over a decade ago Memories hadn't even been released in English yet.

I know this concept may be difficult for you to fathom but pretty girls can like anime. It does happen occasionally.

>>7949338
I like reading about quantum physics too and I went to a community college for my core credits, does that make me a joke?

>>7949665
Yaya actually started as a fan too.
Basically: The "original attention whores" i.e. - Yaya, Miyu, Adella, Pikminlink, Lindze, Alisa, FranDan - all watched anime and read manga and played video games. They were real weeaboos. They were just the most attractive girls in a super tiny subculture of ugly nerds so they knew they would get the most attention whenever they cosplayed. It became a competition among them for who would be considered the hottest.

Over the years Yaya ended up being the only one who didn't grow out of the addiction to attention. She kept it going and kept competing with this new generation. The rest of them either quit or only it for fun once in awhile. The big difference between the old and new generation is that the new one - spearheaded by Jnig - didn't start as fans of anime. They saw the internet fame that people like Yaya and Miyu had and wanted to become efamous themselves so they imitated them.

>>7949665
miyu tried to lord her whole "durr hurr i liek fizzicks" over everyone though. jesus fuck it was annoying. i remember thinking, talk to me when you have a phd and are working at CERN. community college physics classes do not a genius make, and that's what she was trying to seel herself as half the time.

(coming from an anon WITH a phd)

>>7949861
not the same anon you're replying to but why would someones interest in something cool like physics annoy you? i mean damn at least she saw value in stuff that matters in life and wanted to be smart. these other girls like jnigger and yaya dont even bother trying to go get themselves an education :/

>>7949896
It's called embellishing to sound interesting, dear. There's a difference between a passive interest and a STEM major. It's fine to have a passive interest, so long as you're not trying to use it to put on airs and seem super special interesting compared to everyone else.

>>7949896
I don't think they ever will give up on cosplay for a full time job or a full time student nor they will try because no school or employer will allow so many absences with no other motivation than "I'm a convention guest". They "live" off cosplay and that's probably all that there is left for them atleast until Jnig realizes it wasn't the safest route out there.

>>7949908

Because of Jnig and Yaya, there are thousands of attention seeking e-fame hungry cosplayers dying to earn a comfy living off cosplay alone just like them with no backup plan. If anything they're the reason the 'golden era' is ending. $$$ signs is all they see.

>>7950011
Not like cosplaying is a job. It's a fucking hobby. There are real models always ready to replace you as Blizzcon proved. They don't need cosplayers, it's the other way around faggots. Get a job.

>>7950011
No worries ! Even if the golden age of cosplay e-fame is slowly dying and getting harder to make dem $$ they can always go to twitch.tv and start streaming for more easy money.

>>7947523
>>7947557
I don't have anything against people who wants to cosplay something because they liked character's design but aren't really fans of the game/series/stuff as long as they are being honest about it. I'm pretty sure Yaya haven't played league either and she has made 3 costumes from it already but no one seems to give her shit for that.

>>7942727
Does anyone ever notice how ugly yaya is? I personally don't like her cosplay because her face never suits the character (She has REALLY asian features like that big ass nose)

>>7950846
Actually I see it all the time here.

>>7943144

Yeah as soon as I saw them say she is 32 I laughed.

We started cosplaying at the same time in the 90s and she was AT MOST a year younger than me.

She's somewhere between 34 and 37.

Where is that screen shot of her old site where she says her birth year?

>>7942890
>it comes down to things you can't really change (at least without a lot of money, time and persistence) as the determining factor if your cosplay is "good" or not. I donno, I guess I'm just old school because I determine quality by craftsmanship and skill.


Are you me?
If not can we be friends?

>>7944240
>Or that volpin is cheating scum


Yeah I tried to look past that and I just can't.
I said hi to him at a venue once and I still feel like a sellout for even doing that.

I don't know how people who actively kiss up live with themselves when I can't even say 'Sup to a dude I know cheated on his wife.

>>7947572
She just posted this on Facebook, and she's clearly level 100. I searched and found her account and she has WotLK raiding achievements that were gotten in 2008, which is when achievements were implemented. She's legit.