/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>7928250
>that shop has been blacklisted from our sources
I think they're overly optimistic about getting enough future orders to continue this business.

>>7928260
One of the marketing people at work once told me never to admit guilt or wrongdoing as an eemployee of the company. I'm assuming they operate under the same idea.

There are a couple of girls who are thinking of doing a company like this in a non-shit way on Rufflechat. I know one them is a seagull. What do you think?

Apparently mine is out for delivery

>>7928883
I can't wait.

>>7928281
You never admit guilt or wrongdoing and you always qualify any apologies - "I'm sorry you feel that way" rather than just "I'm sorry".

However you should also try to turn any negatives into "improvements" like saying you'll be "closely reviewing our relationships with suppliers to place an increased focus on quality and working closer with our existing trusted suppliers" if you've been burned by shoddy products from a supplier.

What's rufflechat?

>>7928889
A frilly circlejerk clubhaus.

>>7928887
I'm actually still pretty excited even though I know its going to be shit

>>7928889
It's a group on Facebook of Lolitas shootin' the breeze.

>>7928888
really? Anytime someone says to me "I'm sorry you feel that way" I automatically want to punch them
I always just say "I'm sorry" and it seems to work. .

>>7928901
In a professional work environment, especially when your focus is customer service, you want to acknowledge the customer's feelings but never validate them. "The customer is always right" is really "the customer is a fucking idiot but we'll let them think they're right."

>>7928901
"I'm sorry" is what you'd usually say but when you start getting into "professional" matters you need to qualify it or you can end up in a situation where some daft fucker tries to sue you as one of your employees apologises for an issue which they take to be an admission of guilt.

>57 followers
Lel

>>7928854
I must be doing this wrong because I can't find rufflechat anywhere I googled it and nothing.

>>7929253
It's a group on facebook.

>>7928963
Great success!

It's hereeee

They tried to brand it

>>7929602
I will be monitoring this thread.

First impressions, Pretty cute

>>7929602
I'm so excited, give us the play by play!

So far so good! I actually said "ooh" out loud when I see the sweater. I've been wanting a floral sweater like this for awhile do that was unexpected

The sweater

>>7929632
would be helpful if you said what kind of box you ordered

>>7929646
>>7929632
I'm guessing Gyaru maybe?

>>7929632
I want one now! I do not like how overpriced they are though, and am worried they will mess up my measurements.

The jewelry. The necklace is pretty fug and I can't figure out what the black thing is

>>7929649
Gurl.... that shit probably ain't even worth $15 combined via Taobao.

>>7929648
Whoops sorry it was the gal

>>7929654
I'm rich. I just want a subscribtion of random cute shit in the mail.

>>7929653
the black/pearl thing looks like a memory wire choker type necklace maybe?

Nails and lashes, I was only expecting one pair of lashes for some reason

>>7929654
>>7929656
rekt

And that's about it. I mean, it's cute and it's pretty gal I guess but it's definitely not worth $100. Also I feel they should have thrown in a skirt or something because the sweater dress is really short

>>7929661
>I was only expecting one pair of lashes for some reason

topkek

this stuff looks slightly better than the mahou shoujo box though, congratulations

>>7929672
Wow... for real?
You got like 30 bucks worth of stuff.
Not even a skirt?

These threads are making me sick with secondhand remorse.

>>7929677
Yeah even if I bought this at overpriced mall stores it would still be like $70 tops. Oh well

>>7929682
Lolll
Its fine, I don't even really care that much. At least it's all stuff I'll wear

>>7929684
idk if I were you I'd send it back and buy it on taobao yourself lol. Sans the ugly jewelry.

>>7929687
I mean, that is a cute box, much better than the magical girl one, but still...

>>7929688
I don't know. I was thinking about it. I do like it thought. Also it doesn't seem to be littered with knockoffs like the other box which is I assume why PayPal sided with that other girl.

>>7929672
Yeah, overall the stuff is pretty cute and could work together - I'd personally wear it - but a small skirt or shorts would make it feel more complete. The jewellery is a bit trashy, but it was nice of them to include lashes and nails.

>>7929677
richanon here, I'd buy that for $60 tops
fuck that

I just don't know why they didn't throw in a skirt or something too though???

>>7929672
are those pink fluffy ear muffs? those are so cute
really, the sweater and the ear muffs are the only think i personally like about your box.

definitely not $100 worth though, no matter how you look at it.

>792 9704
They did ask me if I preferred a dress or a skirt and shirt. I guess I said dress, I don't really remember, but this dress is very short. I'm 5'8" and I would Notwear it without something else

>>7929707
Yep! I like the ear muffs too, I wear sweet lolita and have been wanting a pair.
Really the only things I don't like are the two necklaces. The bracelet is okay. I didn't try the tights on

>>7929656
There's gotta be better subs out there with cuter shit and better value, that jewelry's making me itch just looking at it.

>>7929721
Rich anon could probably just go to the taobao thread or coord help thread and ask someone to buy them a coord and send it to them for $100 and it would be a better deal

>>7929653

Is the black thing springy? It looks like a memory wire choker, they keep their round shape so you wear them by putting them around your neck and it'll spring back into a circle shape.

Personally I dislike them, always felt like i'm being choked. But a lot of places seem to sell memory wire chokers so maybe it's me that's weird.

Ah, so I figured out that the shape and length of the sweater really doesn't work with a skirt. It's pretty much just jeans or shorts or on its own (which I am too tall to do)
Still, the pack feels awfully bare

>>7929775
A skirt or pair of shorts would've rounded it out since they included stockings. Almost feels like they forgot to put it in.

>>7929756
Nope, I hate them too.

>>7929665
Just because you're rich doesn't mean you have taste though. If you're rich you can do much better.

>>7929656
just goes to show money can't buy taste

I really, really wanted a subscription. And now that I see what's inside, I'm really, really glad I saved my money. I'd rather just do my own research into styles and my own shopping.

>>7929874
Is this a reaction or an example?

>>7929661
>these cheapass lashes.

As a gal, don't use these, they are horrid trash. Don't.

>>7930007
Seriously, wal mart lashes are better than these. The ones the girl got sent are literally 20 cents worth of a feather glued to a strip.

>>7929775
I gotta agree it looks awfully bare, because it is.
In the Magical Girl box at least they made the effort to put more clothing for an outfit, as awful as it was. In this box they just seemed to focus on more accessories but they're still cheap looking and definitely not worth the price.

>>7929672
>>7929661
>>7929653
>>7929644
>>7929632

I know where they got most of this shit on taobao.
That sweater costs $10, it's a liz lisa fake (lol, so much for no replicas).
Lashes cost like 20 cent, accessories came to no more than $5.

They legitimately charged you almost 10 times the original price.

>>7930271
Please make a secret that compares these things.

>>7930271
Do you guys count shipping and ss fees in your calculations? I've never been able to get a sweater on taobao for $10

>>7930007
Do you have any lash / underlash recommendations then?

>>7930763

lol no

>>7930793
Well, if you do a comparison could you? It's kind of misleading, literally everytime I've bought from taobao it's ended up being at least 40% more than the sticker price

>>7929672
Wow, this box is the worst one so far. One sweater, some 20 cents lashes and those disgusting pearls >>7929653... I can't believe anyone over the age of 12 would wear those fake and cheap jewelry in public. They could at least have added a skirt or a bag.

>>7930804
Anon, service fee is only 10% of the original price and afaik, gensoboxed charged extra for shipping anyway, so you can't count that in.

>>7930807
At least the mahou box and witch box I could trick myself to think that it would be worth about $60, since it was a top, skirt, shorts/backpack, tights and accessories + the fact that they aren't stuff that you can find in normal stores. If you don't have any experience with taobao and go by normal retail prices, I can see people thinking that the top and skirt is $30-40, shorts/backpack $10/15, tights $8, accessories $8.

However this box is just shit. Even noobs can't trick themselves to think that this box is worth more than $30. I could probably go into any chain-store and get a similar floral sweater for about $15-20.

>>7930850
Iirc genso charges $20 for shipping. I've paid $15 for just couple of lolita accessories.

>>7931187
That sounds high to me. Do you live in the US? $15 is about what I'd pay for shipping a single figure EMS from Japan to US, and figures are usually bigger and heavier than a few accessories. EMS from China has been cheaper overall in my experience, but I buy more than accessories, so I can't give a better comparison there.

$20 seems par for the course for shipping a bix that size from China. And it's arrived fast from what I've heard in these threads.

>>7931228
Where she she say she used EMS? $15 is perfectly reasonable for airmail

>>7931228
I thought it was high too. But my friend bought in bulk and only charged me for the weight of mine. I guess she could have been wrong but I don't think so

>>7931232
Oh, Im an idiot I misread that whole conversation. Sorry anons!

Are there any actually-not-that-bad subscription boxes for lolita stuff?

>>7931237
I don't believe there are any other subscription boxes for lolita specifically. Of course there are luckybags and so on, but gensobox is so far the first subscription box specifically aimed at lolita fashion/accessories

It's definitely safe to assume that, even if this goes crashing and burning, there will be more attempts at this in the future. I'm a little surprised it hasn't happened sooner tbh. There have been anons tossing ideas around about starting an accessory box (which I would buy despite not being a lolita, just because the mock ups were so cute!)

>>7930763
>>7930804
>>7931187
>>7931233

Shipping is based entirely on weight. The rule is generally that the first 500g is the expensive part, and then every 500g after that is cheap. That's why it's better to do a large order.
However, you can order up to 2kg and use small air packet mail.
I had an order that had only 3 items that couldn't be shipped with my large order, they came to 0.3kg, air packet would have cost me $8 (which is cheap).
You could buy a pair of shoes which weigh 1kg which would obviously cost a lot for shipping, but you could buy a few jumpers/skirts that come to 1kg which wouldn't be that much in comparison...
What lolita accessories did you buy? If it was things like bags then maybe, but if it was just bows and necklaces then your friend charged you way way way too much.

Anyway. For the stuff they bought, I can guarantee it weighed no more than 1kg, maybe even 500g. The shipping wouldn't have been that expensive. Since genso charge you for shipping it'd be around the same, it still doesn't change the fact that they literally charged her 10 times the original value of the items.

so only 3 people bought a gensobox? i haven't seen any other reviews anywhere?

>>7931658
Me neither, and I have been looking everywhere! I'm so thirsty for this drama lmfao

>>7931701
Same haha I'm stalking EVERYTHING.

>>7931658
Yeah, that seems right. There is still the "ambassador" they chose though

>mfw I shared the gensobox disaster review with my comm
>get this comment
>"I love the pink top and skirt!! Thank you for sharing! I ordered one now! I hope I get the same one *crosses fingers*"

WHAT??

>>7933039
>tell her to cancel
>unload your shit onto her
>make some of that money back
>yeeee

>>7933039
>just shared it
>site is down

>>7933082
She must be trolling then, right? Nobody can be this stupid.

>>7933039
but why...

>>7929672
I'm in the same comm as the girl who runs this thing, and I thought that maybe, despite the drama surrounding her, if she could get her shit together, I'd be interested in a gal pack, but I wouldn't spend more then $50 total for this lump of crap. It's really disappointing.

Anyone have any suggestions on places to get cute cheap nails like these? I've always liked gal but I don't know much about it. And does anyone have any recommendations where I could find cute sweater dresses like this?(or maybe not because Arizona is literally Satan's butthole

http://graciexdoll.tumblr.com/post/102484416725/genso-box-haul-1-and-review

>>7933551
all this shit is from foxcherry.

>>7933551
> thinks paying 100 dollars for a bunch of accessories and a not so special bolero is totes 9.5

goddammit tumblr

>>7933551
Wait, so she didn't even get a dress or a blouse? or anything to make an outfit with?? I'm so confused...All she received were accessories for the price of $120....

>>7933551
Why the heck would they throw in navy in an all black gothic box just what

>>7933039
That right there is the demographic gensobox was targeting.

>>7933572
>Wait, so she didn't even get a dress or a blouse? or anything to make an outfit with?? I'm so confused...All she received were accessories for the price of $120....
For that single price of $120 you also get the Gensobox™ Experience included with your carefully selected boutique j-fashion items.

>>7933551
I am irrationally angry that she is praising a lolita box that didn't even contain a single piece of clothing.

Also I can't navigate her tumblr cos I can't find the "next page" button, but why would anyone have a theme like that

>>7933575
>Why the heck would they throw in navy in an all black gothic box just what
They're both dark colors and you're nitpicking if you think there's a real difference between a very dark blue or black.

>>7933572
>>7933585
I think that because is was the subscription box, not the starter box, they just included accessories. Still that's pretty jank

Maybe try asking here, anon. >>7933121
Or maybe here >>7918822

>>7933121
Oh, so there IS drama surrounding her? I've never seen so much samefaggotry in the same thread before.

>>7933121 Damn, I meant this link.
>>7933602

>>7933121
Holy fucking shit, let's try this again. 4chan keeps derping my links.

Try these threads, anon.

>>7918822
>>7916058

>>7933601
Were subscription box prices the same as starter boxes or cheaper? I can't remember.

>>7933597

>>7933597
>>7933628
>im deliberately being a contrary jerk.jpg

>>7933626
they were cheaper

>>7933641
I can only blame myself.

>>7933551
wow her fb lol

EVERYTHING about her seems so fucking tryhard. She's probably doing this to get her "modeling" and lolita career in motion along with her crappy etsy shop.

>>7933740
>probably doing this to get her "modeling" and lolita career in motion along with her crappy etsy shop.

I don't understand how you can assume all this just from her review and looking at her Facebook page(s). Girl was simply posting a review, too bad it conflicts with Anoymous' wisdom and opinions. You seem unnecessarily annoyed/disgusted with this girl. Posting reviews in general increases traffic to your page, and if you run any kind of blog you'll want that, I don't see the try hard.

My friend told me she was putting in an order with them when they took their site down, and it still charged her card but they won't answer her emails...

>>7933938
Holy crap that's awful!

and I can't be the only one who thought that capelet(te?) looked like garbage. It is interesting to learn that the subscription boxes focus on accessories, though a few anons had already guessed that. Anyone more taobao savvy got a rough cash estimate of the loli box's actual value? I think I've seen the wrist cuffs before but I'm having the worst luck finding them.

>>7933551
Strange that she chose sweet for the subscription but received a bunch of gothic items... I get that Genso asked about her styles and she mentioned gothic but still. I'd be irritated.

>>7934146
Pretty sure the gloves are ciciwork. I know they had a gothic pair of gloves up until yesterday, think those were the ones.

>>7933938
Tell her to call her credit card company, they'll get her money back in 3 days(5 if it lands on the weekend)

>>7934146
The items are from ciciworks and red maria

>>7933575
To be fair, alot of gothic wearers wear navy to so...
Anyways they probably accidently got something they though was black but threw it in anyways.

>>7934327
You know, if they're packing boxes in the dark it'd explain some of the other color fuckups in the other boxes received.

>>7933551
>asked for sweet
>got all-black and one navy item
>not a single piece of clothing
>Total value 40 bucks tops
>9.5/10!!!
What's the point of writing a review if you fail to apply critical judgment.

>>7934434
I think what happened is they contacted her afterwards so she could be more specific and she realised she could get gothic because it wouldn't be just generic and she could kinda pick what she wanted.
What is going to suck is the next time when they send repeats of items she already owns, if that happens.

>>7934482
Fair enough, but it doesn't change that she got like five accessories, and paid $100 for it. You can go to a physical store and get nice things for less than that. I paid like $6 for those rose foxcherry hairclips she got.

Let's get real /cgl/, we are fighting a losing battle. These boxes aren't meant for us, but for idiot noobs like the girl from the review. Gensobox will be successful as long as idiots like her exists.

>>7934532
But it's handpicked fashion from experts. You just don't get the Gensobox™ Experienceat all.

>>7934623
Top kek
>>7934535
Yeah, after reading that review, I give up. If people want to waste their money, they're free to do so, I guess.

>>7934482
someone gave her advice to use taobao so she could get good accessories for cheap and not repeats
>I am seriously lacking in the accessories department, and I found this subscription service really helpful for that.
???
she just told you to get accessories from taobao how is this a response?

also something about this just rubs me the wrong way

"I would much rather pick out my own big pieces, and not have to worry about accessories when I know I have a personal stylist picking out things I know I would like."

>>7934823
Hey fellow comm member.

Yeah I'm...really concerned because I know she's a newer lolita and I don't want her leading some of the younger members into a money-pit.

It honestly sounds like she's trying to convince herself that she didn't just get ripped off? I've been in denial like that when I first got into the fashion.

>regret

>>7934832
Also same comm, that latest reply was Really Good and I hope that opens her eyes a bit. Lots of good links there too, I keep forgetting to bookmark all of these shops.


I've definitely been there with some of my purchases.

>they were never worth it

>>7934832
>>7934858
the only reason im so concerned is because i know SOMEONE in the comm is going to go buy one now because of her and i REALLY dont want anyone making that mistake, let alone signing up for it monthly.

>bought 150$ bodyline at metro in 2010
>tfw it was retro bodyline and old enough they didnt even sell it in the online shop
>"look mom you can take the sleeves and apron off and it becomes a whole other outfit so its worth it!!!!"
>already pretty poor at the time
>so much regret for making her spend that money on it

i dont want anyone to have to go through that with genso box, let alone once a month jfc

it should really be 100$ for a three month trial

Do you think it would help ifi payed my gal box review on tumblr? If you guys could help me find that sweater I could post prices too. I have a feeling it won't help though...

>>7934874
Do it anyway. We need to leave a paper trail of them being shitty. If anything maybe it'll help improve the quality of their boxes. TBH if I were you I would even message them and express displeasure with the quality of your box.

>>7934870
Not gonna lie, I was very tempted when it first came about because ~oooh the mystery box, behold it's powers~ but after seeing the two anons in previous threads and her review I'm glad I didn't. Also, y'know, $100.

I hope that GO comes sooner rather than later in light of all of this. However, I don't think it will be a domino effect in the comm.

>>7934832
If it makes you feel any better the website is down for "maintenance" anyways so no one's ordering shit. The newbies who are excited about it will probably forget it's a thing before it comes back up (if it comes back up)

>>7934924
It's been down ever since the first review went up...what do you suppose they're up to?

When I first saw this I thought it was one of those subscription services like birchbox, just full of Lolita accessories each month. I'd buy that...

>>7934874
Couldn't find the exact same sweater, but similar liz lisa "inspired" sweaters usually cost around 120 ¥ (without shipping).
Example : http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.214.p0zjzZ&id=41856262273&ns=1&abbucket=17#detail

>>7934933
It is. They have (had?) a one time beginner box and a monthly one. Both are underwhelming.

>>7934874
here you go, i've had it in my favourites for a while now http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z0k.7385961.1997985097.d4918997.70mXV7&id=37993724591&_u=e246208jb971

Hey everyone here's my genso box! Somehow it wasn't what I was expecting.

>>7934933
>birchbox
I've been looking for something like this ;_; thank you anon

>>7935714
10/10

>>7935714
topkek

>>7934754
You could read it? Between the size of the font and the color I could barely make it out. I have crappy vision though, but I wear my glasses all the time.

>>7936033
I zoomed in to read, that page was size 2 font on my monitor. Crappy vision or not it was not remotely conductive to being read as is.

>>7936033
>>7936040
Oh thank god, I thought my vision must be getting even worse. I tried reading it a few hours ago and gave up and read the post from the genso box tag.

>>7936065
I was annoyed the whole time I read the review. Had to zoom in so much just to make it readable. Having the font that tiny and in that color is idiotic.

Found anons bloomers.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-7706394165.85.b2u2mi&id=40074293712
>45 yuan

>>7933551
gloves: 48
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-1822353465.80.rbFH24&id=26652592695
ring: 18.5
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-1822353465.60.627NHN&id=17233647848
wristcuffs: 24.5
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-1822353465.65.XkzyEy&id=40095278937
Hairclips: 26
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.0.92.7Q3NVW&id=14108867879&

117yuan=19 usd

bonnet: ???
caplet: ???
mentioned tights: ??

=$100
I'm laughing so hard I'm crying. Can anyone find links to the other things?

>>7936245
http://tw.taobao.com/item/42159461907.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.5.w4002-7706407164.38.9fSBHq

From the same shop as the bloomers.

...Why am I so tempted?

>>7936264
>http://tw.taobao.com/item/42159461907.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a1z10.5.w4002-7706407164.38.9fSBHq

Because they are fab

>>7936264
Is that a fucking doge scarf?

>>7936271
Yes. And hat, bloomers, and hoodie.

I know there's a border print doge lolita dress floating around on taobao but that's a bit too wild for me. The bloomers are calling my name though.

>>7936276
I just noticed that the hoodie is reversible.

>>7933551
I would lol if I could actually read her fucking blog

Ugh, my eyes hurt

>>7936264
>doge bloomers
That's some tacky bullshit right there.
I'm still mad at myself for not buying the doge dress, to be honest.

>>7936245
The tights are probably mu-fish? Most of theirs are 25 yuan tops.

>>7936327
It being sold out saddens me.

>>7936538
me too anon.. me too...
they could restock since there's lots of people wanting to buy it.

>>7934823
Hello, fellow comm member. Why the fuck do you think you're so important? You trapse around the comm page like you're a lolita God when all you really are is fucking subpar on a really, really good day.
The newer comm members aren't your fucking responsibility. If they fall into a money pit, then lesson learned. Anyone can see from her review that her wallet was raped, and she's trying to come to terms with it more than likely.
Quit fucking playing mother goose to all the new members. If they really want to stay in the fashion, they'll figure things out on their own.

>>7933551
Her facebook page is a goldmine, holy shit.

>steampunk coord

>>7936634
the fuck

>>7936634
>giving advice to people is bad

>>7936634
Telling newbies it's a bad idea to buy from Gensobox is, at this point, not that different from telling newbies it's a bad idea to buy from Milanoo. Should we stop warning people away from scam sites, now?

>>7936668
No, it's not different at all. But there's a difference between tumblrinas who buy their shit from Milanoo and their local thrift store, versus girls who are legitimately interested in the fashion. Girls who are legitimately interested and have taken the first steps to looking up the basics, know that Milanoo is bad. Ever since day one of me researching lolita, I was told by various blogs/guides that Milanoo is bad.
Anyone with common sense will see that $100 for this garbage is way too much, especially when newbies generally think its ok to buy all the same shit from Target for $20

>>7933551
>if I get a job
>if

>>7936276
>>7936280
i have the doge dress and i need these lol

>>7936634
Wow, and here I thought I was the angry seagull of the comm.

>>7936245
Its called "needing a profit for the efforts", why has your calculation not accounted for that?
Either way it would definitely be more economical she just bought what she wanted from taobao herself.

>>7938063
You can make a profit without ripping people off, as people have said many times in these threads

I don't understand this thread. If you would rather buy the things separately on taobao then do that, I don't think it's target demographic is people who actually want to spend time and effort putting an outfit together. If you didn't like what you got, I hope you read the return and satisfaction policy before buying (unless you're retarded), but maybe you can contact the shop owner to reach an agreement? I've read through a couple of these threads and it doesn't seem like they have stolen anyone's money or anything. It reminds me of those "wah wah XXX is selling my dream dress on the comm sales for $1500 what a stupid overcharging bitch" threads

>>7931701
> I'm so thirsty for this drama lmfao
THIS

>>7938161
That wasnt the point I was making.

>>7938182
FUCK OFF CUNT I WANT SOME DRAMA

>>7938063
>>7938182
I wonder which of the shysters behind this shit storm this is. People try to explain it to them again and again, like they're little bitty 4 year olds. But they'll never "get" it because they're just trying to justify their shitshow of piling dogshit into a box and selling it as french truffles.

>>7938182
> It reminds me of those "wah wah XXX is selling my dream dress on the comm sales for $1500 what a stupid overcharging bitch" threads

I don't give a shit that they overcharged. I give a shit about how many idiots here walked right into this trap. I'm only following these threads because it's delicious seeing people upset by their shitboxes despite all the warning signs. This is stuff I'd expect of Tumblr. I'm disappointed in a lot of you.

>>7938246
Wait, I thought only two gulls have bought boxes so far. The mahou shoujo buyer openly acknowledged that she was acting as a guinea pig (did she return/refund?) and the gyaru box buyer just wants something to throw money at.

The actual box owners haven't been nearly as salty as everyone else reacting to them.

So if someone at a con would put a box of items together to sell at the $40-$50 price point, would anyone actually buy them? If you were guaranteed 4-5 accessories in a colorway/theme in a 'lucky pack' style?

>>7938402
It's a con, so probably.

>>7938402
They already do this and most con lucky packs are usually pretty bad. I think Lokisa and some other "lolita" booth selling accessory lucky packs for $20 to $25.

>>7938363
There were three cgls I think. two were mahou shoujos, one had a bunch of counterfeit crap and got refunded, the other got witch/devil and liked it, and then the gyaru box which I have no words for.

loljay

>>7938429
Huh, did the material from the witch box ever get posted?

>>7938450
Ignore me, found it in archives.

Any news on this?

>>7938438
everything she posts is so damn cringe worthy. I really can't wait for this "review."

>>7938363
Yep this. For some reason people were pretty nice to me though (gal) the mahous got it worse

>>7940766
Its frankly bizarre seeing the yumblr crowd easy these boxes up. I don't know why I expected any different but I did

>>7940787
*eat not easy

>>7938438
Another girl from the SF comm also said they liked theirs. It makes me question the comm's expectations of quality

>>7941858
the sf comm is pretty shitty in terms of taste. but they are nice girls, so whatever- let them do what they want

Hello!! SF Comm girl here. Thank you for the compliment. I am not one of the girls that originally posted, but I did just receive my lolita box. I also posted up the totals so you can see how much money was actually lost. (by me at least)

link is hard to post XD but heartsnspiders[dot} blogspot. Can you tell I'm not on here much?

>>7942269
they...sent you acorns?? what the fuck

hahah yah, that was my extra item. I like them, good for classic coords, but did I really just shell out $120 and you gave me something that is free. lol

>a personal stylist
>for obscure as fuck japanese fashion
>that requires shit from overseas to be bought
>not even in bulk because they're not an actual company

This is such an obviously stupid idea. Both from their point of view and the customers'. I can only see this kind of shit working if they lived in japan/china, took only a few customers at a time and charged more.

Customers won't be happy. They won't be happy. Nobody is going to be happy because this whole shit is a terrible idea.

>>7942269
I see you got the yolanda blouse.

I'm really curious whether there's a way to make this concept work. What if only one themed box came out every two months, with all subscribers getting almost the same box? Otherwise I can't see how there's any volume to get bulk discounts with.

Also obvious, but I think /cgl/ is not going to be the right target market for this, there's always a taobao thread on here. I think the target being tumblrinas or newbies sounds right.

>>7942320
That's the same as any other blind box.
I know how to taobao, as do many others here, but quite a few people have said that they'd buy an accessory blind box, simply because it's a fun idea. Of course, it shouldn't be horribly overpriced.

>>7942269
The tights are replicas of Emi & Lily tights? You can find them on lorinaliddell or abilletage.
I'm so sorry about the box anon.

>>7942269
So you got the stock photo and some acorns?
Kek, that's just sad.

yah i just found out about the tights and will be updating soon. thanks for the heads up though. Yah major troll on their part. "this needs more, Miu go in the back yard and grab some stuff!!" lol update i was just auto billed for another box. ROFL gotta contact PP again

>>7943173
You're new here, aren't you

>>7943179

She already admitted she was
>Can you tell I'm not on here much?

I am willing to overlook her unfamiliarity with board culture to get another review of clusterfuckbox, and I suggest you do the same.

>>7943173
Well it has been exactly one month since you signed up for your subscription box. You have to cancel your order if you want to stop receiving these.

>dis dumb

>>7943185
ehhh I don't know where IS acceptable to be typing yah like this ROFL XD

gonna stop here so we don't derail the thread

>>7943195
*where it IS acceptable

>>7943195
It's not acceptable. I'm just saying that she brought us a little nugget of drama to chew on, so we shouldn't chase her off immediately. Especially given that she didn't give this mess a completely negative review, so more laughs are coming.

>>7943189
Where should she unsubscribe, anon? The website that has been "down for maintenance" for like a week and a half? The email they're no longer responding to? Should she go to the owner's apartment and demand to be taken off the subscription?
>dis dumb

I'm back. ;) if I am doing something incorrectly please feel free to tell me how to do it right. Also yes I had to unsubscribe via PP(took a bit) since the site is down and no human has responded to my emails.

>>7943276
If it's paid via Paypal or from her bank she can cancel the automatic payment directly with them.

>>7943276
Quit coddling these fucking morons anon. I read her review and the entire time she was incredibly sceptical of the brand and was EXPECTING an empty box. Facitious or not, if you're that paranoid, why wouldn't anyone cancel their monthly subscription immediately after? She had 3 weeks to cancel, don't act like GensoBox has been down for a month when it's been a week at most.

>>7943299
Holy shit you're insufferable. We don't condone smiley faces or LOLs and ROFLs, and you definitely don't need to announce your presence.

Did you cancel your subscription now or did you cancel it before they billed you?

I did a one time only when I purchased, and I have since handled it with PP. They refunded me instantly, and have blocked all further activity from this seller. Thank you for your helpful feedback anon. I will refrain from doing so in the future.

>>7938059
no one in the comm is open about their seagull status when in reality we're probably all basic bitches from here

So on top of the other shadiness, they set up one-time purchasers as subscriptions? What a scam.

>>7943810
If you pick the MONTHLY subscription box, yes. If you choose the starter pack, no.

>>7943846
Oh I see, I read her "one time only" comment here before I saw her review and didn't realize she bought the monthly.

>>7943854
Which is why several anons think she's an idiot for not canceling it sooner. It's like those people that pay for monthly subscriptions for makeup and magazines and then shit all over themselves when they get fees on their credit card

>>7943319
wait, are you heartsnspiders still?

>>7943305
>we don't condone smiley faces
Are you one of those people that writes youtube comments in greentext too

>>7944025
she's right though

also what?

>>7942320
I think if you just weren't greedy and took like twenty dollars profit you would be fine. They are taking a lot more than that plus I'm pretty sure the "stylists" are in China where wages are lower. Then again some people will be mad no matter what

>>7943305
>>7943179
>>7943195
>le sekrit klub face xD

can you just shut the fuck up? no1curr. we all know they're not a regular so no one expects them to magically know that typing that way isn't really appropriate here. they likely won't return after this thread anyway so what's the problem? they're only here because of gensobox, not because they want to hang around this board.

>>7944033
I dare someone to keep up with the amount of work it would take for just $20 a pop. I agree with >>7942312

I'm moving to Japan in the near future and this clusterfuck gave me an idea and I was wondering what seagulls thought
>A $100 subscription box where you get sent one main piece a month (all burando but second hand from mbok, closet child etc.)
I would probably only take on a certain amount of subscriptions at a time to avoid getting overloaded and all customers would have a consultation with me beforehand to discuss likes and dislikes etc. - I could take requests for certain items too e.g getting a winter jacket one month or a big accessory box another month instead of a main piece

I could see this appealing to wealthy lolita's and new girls with money but I'm not sure if people would actually be interested?
I've worked in retail/hospitality for ~4 years so I've got customer service experience and I'm trusted within my community so I think I could probably pull this off but I'd like people's opinions

>>7944107
I'd be interested, especially for accessories! Closet child ikebukuro had a ton of cute shit I passed on and regret now..

>>7944107
Mirukuma does these. But she kinda sucks, I would try it from someone else for sure.

the box wasn't a mandatory subscription on their site. It gave you the option. Most boxes, Julep, meme box etc let you buy 1, 3, 6, or even a year.

>>7944107
I think alternatively, you cam just roll out 5 to 10 mystery boxes at a time for sale (a few for sweet, a few for classic, etc.). If people see that the boxes are a pretty good deal then I am sure you'll have seagulls flocking to you for deals. This way you don't have to worry about maintaining a subscription either.

>>7944118
I am really tempted to get one of hers as a gift, but are there any reviews?

>>7944675
I bought one from her and she completely ignored my requests and sent me the wrong box. It was a fine deal as far as value but I'm so bitter from dealing with her as an ss I wouldn't use her for anything

>>7944073
>no1curr
I care you salty cunt. Pic related you fucking retard. This isn't a fucking hugbox, stop being retarded. Of course people are going to call her out for posting like a 12 year old weeaboo faggot.

>>7944691
could you elaborate?

i've gotten something from her before as well, and she didn't list the price properly, nor did she package the glass item safely.
her communication is fast when she makes a sale, but after you pay, it's pretty much non-existent

>>7944842
>being this mad

stop being so autistic. you are getting riled up because someone posted ROFL XD on the internet. you sound absolutely ridiculous and it's really embarrassing.
no1curr that a self admitted non regular speaks like a high percentage of people on the internet. except for you because we gotta protect muh epic 4chan right, we r legion :^) XD y so salty, too much sand in ur vagina??? xD

now if you can calm your autism long enough to stop the shitposting and derailing and actually get back to the topic at hand that would be great.

>>7933780
Not that anon, but direct quote from her 'about me' from her tumblr
>"My name is Gracie! I am a Lolita from Florida, and I am aspiring to become a model and own my own clothing line. This is where I will make my own blog posts about my experiences in Lolita, as well as reblog Lolita-related posts"

>>7944842
Can you fuck off, I want more drama and you're scaring it away.

>>7944842
Are you 12?

>>7944675
That could be a good idea too! Maybe a few higher value boxes with 2 main pieces, blouse and accessories for $200 shipped worldwide?
I'd put in around $160 worth of stuff, $20 for profit then $20 for shipping - does that sound fair?
I don't want to scalp anyone and I genuinely enjoy doing things like this plus I get to fill up my points card

I could even do themed boxes with all chocolate, strawberry items etc. or for specific brands?
Doing mystery boxes would be a good way to generate interest before offering a subscription service too!

>>7944118
>>7944113
Good to know people are interested! I agree with you about the accessories, so many good deals to be had compared to the Western market

>>7944842
Someone shit in your cereal this morning or something? You're fucking embarrassing.

>>7944842
Why are you calling her salty when the salty one is you though? It's people like you who are still in the mindset that 4chan is some ultra secret underground club that are insufferable as fuck.

Yes, it looks retarded to say yah or ROFL or emoticons because muh board etiquette and muh board culture, but you're no better by being such an autistic bitch so fuck off.

>>7944842
>you salty cunt
>you
>salty
top lel :D xD

>>7944855
As far as her shopping service? I didn't really get to even use her because she strung me along for over a week saying she'd get me a dress and urging me to hurry or it would sell out because it was superrare, and then ignoring my messages when I tried to actually pay her until the dress went on closet child's website and sold out to someone else. It was my ~dream dress~ so I'm really butthurt about this

>>7944909
honestly if you're doing something like that as a business, you're going to have to do EMS as far as shipping goes for accountability etc. So you'd have to be buying dresses for $50-60 and shipping would be more like 30-40 honestly. Which isn't unreasonable, but you'd have to check people's measurements and be at closet child every while and the cost of transportation to there and your time is worth more than $10 lol... maybe if you can get an mbok/y!japan as well but then you'd be risking too many stains

>>7945347
This. Running a shopping service is really not worth the money at all. The amount of communication between customers, especially to understand their style enough to shop for them, would be a nightmare of work for just $20 a pop. And yes, definitely only ship with EMS or your customers can easily screw you over.

I've ran an SS for lolita/jfashion types and now I'm just doing an SS for Japanese cosmetics for old ladies. The latter is a breeze to work with. People in jfashion think you're their best friend and send you countless emails and are picky and indecisive as fuck. I can't imagine sending one of my prior customers a mystery box without a single complaint at the end of it. Lolitas are picky and rich lolitas who buy burando are even more so. It's a fun idea in theory but I can't imagine your reputation staying good for long even if you did a great job picking items simply because you can't please everyone.

>>7945372
Wait, I thought a shopping service was just a middleman to buy you specific items you wanted. Isn't that what chibitenshi, tokyopirates, and japonica do? I didn't think they also went out and personally chose items that would suit their customers

>>7945393
It is, the other anons are just idiots.

>>7945393
>>7945401
It's basically the same thing but with more work involved as you have to communicate to understand the customer's personal style. Also with more risk because they could go off and complain if you picked something they weren't happy with. I don't think it's unreasonable to compare the two.

>>7945372
> Japanese makeup for old ladies
That's interesting. how did you get into that?

>>7945409
I don't think the term "shopping service" is interchangeable like that, or else people will start to assume that chibitenshi is their personal shopper. While I understand mirukuma is both a shopping service AND does these mystery grab bags, not all SS provide this type of service

>>7945409
No it's not. Shopping service and personal shopper aren't the same thing and comparing the two is pretty stupid. A SS is very very easy because all you have to do is buy things that you're told to buy.

http://www.frill-ability.com/blog/2014/11/20/genso-box-mahou-shoujo-starter-kit-review

TOP KEK

>>7949645
That was such an extremely vague review, she spent about half the post justifying buying it.

The items looks so awful, I feel kinda sorry for her.

>>7949645

How in the hell did the reviewer turn it into a overview about herself and her problems?!

>>7949714
Because white girls

>>7949681
>>7949714
To be fair, her fashion sense has always been questionable, but it is a blog about wearing jfash as a disabled person so it's relevant in terms of her blog. Doesn't really help much as an actually review however.

>>7949645
>Hey guys, I'm a disabled special snowflake!

>>7949779
I used to be friends with her and I can confirm that she has a bad habit of making everything about herself and her problems, even when it's not appropriate. I'm not surprised.

>>7949803
That and the spoon theory is iirc actually some tumblr post about a girl who has lupus and uses it as her snowflake thing, has nothing to do with disabled people in general. I love how they always stick big words onto things to make themselves sound more credible when the "theory" is actually an analogy and is not really proposing any new way of thinking but simply going "oh woe is me my friends don't understaaaaaand me so I had to explain it to them!"

>>7949645
Like.. 10% of that was gensobox, the other 90% was about her.

>>7949822

... what the actual fuck is the spoon theory. Why spoons. Couldn't she have just said 'energy levels' and be done with it? Why did she have to make a simple term into a complicated analogy?

>>7949822
The analogy she uses for spoon theory to video games is also incorrect, why the hell would you use that to explain it to "videogamers"? Your HP bar doesn't deplete when you do daily tasks - that would be like mana, special points, or energy points instead.

Holy shit did that bitch actually derail the thread into talk about her shitty analogy? I know there's not much going on but seriously guys, this is dumb.

>>7949836
Because some girl used spoons to explain lupus to her friend, I assume it was the closest thing she had on hand or something.
The thing is, it goes for lupus and some other diseases but not ALL disabled people have "low hp".

>>7949841
It's because she made this grand statement that "GensoBox is great, mine was such a good deal, art theft is okay because it's been resolved, I'm going to post my review about it!!"

After all that, there was barely anything on the actual product itself. Ellejay derailed her own fucking review, not cgl. You're dumb.

>>7949849
>derailed her own fucking review
But do we have to talk about it? It's stupid lets just move on.

Also, she didn't post it some anon did, so we derailed the thread.

>>7949849
>You're dumb.

>>7949850
we're not derailing the thread? she's promoting a niche idea to another niche market, like tumblr. except... for lolitas who think they're limited to fucking life spoons

she derailed her own review because she went off talking about GensoBox and then going into MORE detail about her personal life. that's hardly grounds to be calling it a review and then posting about it

>>7949645
What is her disability?

>>7949850
Do you know where you are right now?

>>7949888
On tumblr apparently.

>>7949874
Attentionwhoritis

>>7949900
>Let's move on from all these meanies
>implying YOU'RE not the Tumblr

OK maybe yo
You can defend your friend all you want, but at least on here anons will call her out on her special snowflake bullshit, disability or no disability.

It was a bad review and we want to discuss.

>>7949849
>Ellejay

Oh that explains why she was so excited about that disabled lolita thread on Rufflechat lol

>>7949874
>I was born with klippel-trenaunay syndrome/venous malformations in my right leg
>I also have a non-epileptic seizure disorder
>I was having severe digestive issues.

What ISN'T her disability?

>Update 11/20: It looks like GensoBox never claimed the package (or they had a fake address for their PP account) and it was returned back to me. Paypal still sided in my favor and gave me the full refund.

If they're seriously using a fake address, you can get your money back AND keep your items for free.
>open paypal claim
>send package back to GB
>have package bounced back
>still get money
>profit

>>7949645
Does anyone know the taobao shop her purple dress came from?

>>7950232
Klippel-trenaunay sounds like a ghetto black girl name

>>7949822
Not trying to sound snowflakey, but it a fairly good analogy about life with a disability. The original 'spoon' post sounded more like she used what what physical and on hand to make it more understandable because in games, mana can usually be recharged with potions, where as pills and such can only do so much in real life. I almost lost a dear friend because I couldn't understand her limitations until I ended up disabled as well.

>>7949645
>That ap replica

>>7949847
This. Snowflakes are now in the habit of saying "I don't have enough spoons for this today" to justify their woe is me behavior when their only "disability" is their genderfluid demisexual bipedal wolfray identity and the terrible toll it takes on them to struggle through life. It was a good analogy in theory but now any mention of it makes me assume you're up your own asshole.

>>7950246
Fuck I wish I had gotten a box then ; - ;

>>7950336
Disabled here as well, I don't really agree with the spoon thing, it also sounds dumb, and accurately represents any and all people in some capacity because even in disability cases, you don't have the same endurance as others.

Mana makes much more sense because you can compare it to people who can use things like pills etc regularly and it works just fine for them, where as people who have the disability are kind of like characters with permanent debuffs.

>>7950421
That was kind of why I liked it, because everyone has a different number and it can apply to more than disability. For me, I only use it when I have to explain why I can't do x or y because it's going to make me ill or how a trip to buy makeup caused me to not be able to do something the next day. It's something solid that a person can touch and a visual example as well because it's easier to grasp that way. I have agoraphobia and a host of other diagnosed mental problems, so i modified it into stacking things, when they topple over is when I have a breakdown. (One dice for my roommate hearing me in the shower, another to call the medibus and and one to take it to work, another for the obligatory morning greeting, a few added for lunch because cafeterias suck, and so on. Taking a few off for each benzo I take but adding one if I start to nodd off at my desk because of them.) it works best for my situation because you don't really know when they're going to fall, which is a part of the anxiety.

>>7950456
it doesn't work for mental issues because the girl was talking about physical stamina. Agoraphobia and other mental disorders can be treated very easily, you don't do it by talking about muh spoons and crying about it, but by actively going outside as much as you can. I had anxiety and that since I was 12 (seen multiple therapists, not self-diagnosed) and thanks to therapy I'm fine now at 21 and have been for two years, officially. Unofficially it's been longer. It's not a really big deal, you people just blow it out of proportion to make people feel sorry for you. It's not a personality disorder, it's very treatable and it's your own fault for not treating it.
You reek of tumblr.

what the fuck is this photo

>>7950474
I'm not trying to get sympathy, it's more of a practical way of explaining it because people don't get it and just assume that Im a little bit sad and anxious because "lol my mom was depressed and got cured with Prozac" I am being treated through intense therapy triweekly, spent four months in a level one inpatient setting trying to figure things out. Even my psychologist I see most often doesn't think I'm ever going to be able to function in the real world because it's an brain chemistry problem. She said the most I can hope for is a part time job and even then would rather have me on social security because I can't even keep shit like self care together because of it. I spent a year trying to live like I always had and it nearly killed me on multiple occasions. I've accidentally rubbed holes in my hands and wrists from anxiety and get frequent heart palpitations from it. A trip out shopping will leave me so exhausted that I'm pretty much bedridden the next day and can't do that more than once every two weeks. Mental illness can be an extremely dehabilitating problem if it's that serious of a case. Mine will never go away because of the underlying cause and it's fairly rare. The hospital my treatment team is at has over 35000 patients and they've only seen ten cases like mine in ten years. Most mental illness isn't disabling, but mine is severely so. Right now, the reason I'm not IP again is because they're trying to find a place that accepts my insurance and can help teach me to cope and be able to live independently.

>>7949645
>In a peer’s review, there were some concerns regarding using items with stolen art/unlicensed material and quality issues. To assuage these fears as best I can, it is my understanding that the company is addressing these rapidly and they were unaware of the first of the two specifically until it was brought to their attention. Personally, I had a desire for items that I could be more comfortable in and not worry as much about sitting in or getting dirty.

That last sentence in relation to the paragraph,wut? She's not really bothered by the replicas because her first concern is being more comfortable?

>>7950331
10/10

>>7950541
What is wrong with her?

>>7950474
Not everyone experiences mental illness at the same level you do. You can't blame your own insensitivity on "tumblr tards."

>>7950547
not even that anon but a good indication of when someone is just fishing for pity is when they list a million different things they have wrong with them like that anon has and try to lecture others on their "disability", which a psychoneurosis like anxiety is NOT.

>>7950553
Nope, try again. I was telling her the amount of treatment I was receiving because she claimed I wasn't. So I explained the level of treatment and what was actually going on because her personal case is not my personal case. Mental illness is not one size fits all like people seem to think.

>>7949645
I love how she's too disabled to shop for clothes on websites.

>>7950474
>I did it so you should be able to too

How do I into mental disorders

>>7950574
>exposure therapy is abuuuuuuse!
>medicine makes me sick, abloobloo
>anything other than shitposting on 4chan exhausts me so!
>I have PEETEEASSDEE from going to a shopping mall!
please

>>7950327
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1.w4004-9047526275.47.TdmavM&id=40605156796

>>7950582
do you have borderline personality disorder

>>7950596

>>7950596
More likely just an asshole incapable of empathy, or antisocial personality disorder. Borderline is more of a you're the best/I hate you. Antisocial is more of a clinical love for hurting others because they can.

>>7950553
GAD as sever as anon was describing is considered a disability under the ADA, try harder.

>>7950611
>>7950596
armchair diagnosing anonymous people on the internet belongs on tumblr, ciao
>>>/out/

So the site's still down. I'm starting to think it'll be permanent.

>>7950596
yes i dont

>>7950797
Probably. They're not even getting their returned merchandise back.
Even with the bad reviews they could have been okay if they didn't charge so much for their boxes.

>>7951015
I wonder why they wouldn't take it back? Even if they overcharged, there's still at least $40 worth of merchandise. So they lost $160~ on just one customer

Gal here,
I tried opening a PayPal claim and they denied it and asked for proof its a replica.
Does anybody have a picture of the original sweater in a liz Lisa catalog or something? It being on taobao alone isn't really proof it is a knock off

>>7950596
If she does, she's disabled, and you Tumblr faggots best accomodate her lack of spoons today.

>>7951036
Do you have FB? YOu may want to try messaging the seifuku Mahou Shoujo girl and see how she got her refund cuz iirc PP sided with her instantaneously. She might post here too and give you advice

>>7951036
Maybe try escalating it to a claim?

>>7951142
I will but I think it'd be good to have proof it is a replica

>>7950855
10/10

>>7950541

God. This girls makes whole blog posts, paragraphs of Facebook text, talking about ableism and people needing to be educated. Even if they didn't know better, by trying to help her or making ignorant comments is one of the worst things you can do.

But when dealing with art theft and replicas, if A BUSINESS didn't know, it's ok. Just brush that shit off, not special enough.

>I know, I know. Disability isn't the same as art theft. I'm just rustled after reading that damn review.

>>7951176
Couple pics on this listing
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Autumn-and-winter-vintage-sweet-vivi-magazine-sweet-rose-lace-rabbit-fur-sweater-op-female/1648535160.html

>>7951176
To be honest, I don't think you'll have much luck with the replica claim. They're similar, but they aren't close enough to be illegal. The Gensou box one has a shoulder detail that's missing from the Liz Lisa one, and while the base color and rose color are the same, the roses themselves are different.

>>7951806
Well damn. Thank you for finding this anyway anon.

>>7951806
>>7951862
You should try taking a photo that covers that lacy shit up

>>7929644
That's sort of a Liz Lisa fake...I have the original one but the lace was differently placed on it.

(I'm regrettably of 2 minds about this...on the one hand, I hate replicas, on the other hand, the one I have is itchy as fuck, yours may not be?)

>>7951806

I don't know. Liz Lisa made multiple very similar sweaters with this theme last year. It is possible that it's a replica of a different one than the one you're thinking of, which I have. OTOH I know for a fact that taobao took the design and made multiple variants LL didn't make.

>>7950541
I know her, she's a friend of mine. She's not mentally ill, like some people are implying--her blood vessels are screwed up and she has really painful messed up veins especially in her legs, so sometimes just sitting in one place without moving for too long is really hard for her (hence online issues, she has a blog but she doesn't do much else on line) and she can't wear anything constricting. She used to be lolita but I hardly ever see her wear it now because it's hard for her, so she's probably wanting to save money while she builds up a wardrobe that is actually comfortable for her now because she used to wear lolita all the time and now hardly ever does.

>>7950474
Possibly you should consider accepting that your mental illness and everyone else's aren't the same. I have also been doing very well for a number of years, thanks to meds, but treatment is very hit or miss because some people's problems are chemical, some people's problems are trauma induced and some of us have both. You are doing well and that's great but you are also really lucky that they figured out what therapy would work for you fast. I was on talk and exposure type therapies for a long time before they figured out that what I needed was meds, but for those few years I had loads of insight and understanding and it still didn't make me functional.

>>7953604
nah mine is itchy as fuck too