/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

I am >>7917721
Wanted to thank everyone for the advice.
To the person who said clean your room, it is my housemates room, I don't have a full length mirror, and the hunch was because the mirror is also a cabnet and tips forward.
I appreciate the tips, honestly you gulls were a lot less harsh than I expected.

Digging through my photos for outfits I'm actually proud of because I know lots of curvy girls were asking for advice on where to find clothes.
Like anons from last thread (I'm seifuku anon), I'm busty (95-78-89, plus 175 cm tall) so nearly all my clothes are from normalfag stores. Everything in this outfit came from Forever 21 and mall stores, except my handmade headband.

>>7918861
purikura apps are your friend m8.

>>7919030
No offense but I think you need a little more J fashion in this outfit. I think just changing the handbag and hairstyle (you've got nice, versatile hair and you could get some ideas from the hair threads) would drastically change the look.

>>7919096
I'm not the anon you are replying to, but you said she needs a little more J fashion. I'm curious about what your definition is of J fashion tbh.

>>7919156
OP's FAQ, though lacking, makes a good point in identifying use of colour and themes and motifs.

In the case of that girl's picture, it's more that her outfit wouldn't seem unusual on a high street. Like she said, she gets most of her clothes from F21, etc. so the challenge is using Western styles but maybe JF-type colour co-ordinations. You can see examples of colour co-ordination in Lolita co-ord threads. Balancing the orange of her cardigan with orange accessories (such as mature-style bows) on her shoes could work, and maybe an orange handbag (maybe one of those owl ones).

The cat ears are an example of something more JFashion in that it's unusual (although yes, it is a trend but I wouldn't say it's mainstream) and it's kind of quirky and cute. Changing the hairstyle to be more quirky and cute like in the OP's image would emphasise that 'theme'.

I fucking love these threads. Let's keep these going. I have no outfit pictures for some reason, but I'll take one soon.
These threads are also helpful for sewing inspiration.

>>7919251

>>7919031
Not the anon you replied to, but please recommend good apps for purikura and cute stamp effects, preferably for android?

>>7919189
Ooookay... I thought J-Fashion meant fashion worn by japanese people, which could be everything from normalcore to extreme styles usually seen in harajuku.

>>7919030
I think an orange headbow to match the cardigan would be really cute with this! I agree with the other anon, you need a different purse.

I love these threads, but I posted everything I had in the last one, oh well.

>>7919440

>>7919309
Line camera is gr8
I like that you can use the crop tool to make stickers out of any image that has a transparent background. Also the collage tools are nice to have.
Meitu xiu xiu has good effects for blurring out ugly rooms and such, some good face editing stuff, but not as kawaii.

>>7918822

>>7919482
I can never find cute stickers like what >>7911787 uses. Are they buying stickers? I have LINE camera, but none of the free ones are cute like that.

>>7919616
Character stickers like that, you usually have to pay real money for.

Playing dress up while I clean out my wardrobe. Concrit? Is it even jfashion? I need to get some shoes that aren't black. Sorry for the potato photo

>>7919981

scraggly hair, get a wig or bleach and style it better
silhouette isn't particularly flattering, scrap the bottom half for white tattoo tights/thigh highs and different colour of boots

>>7920012
It's third day hair, I'm just cleaning around the house today and I don't plan to go out so I didn't do anything with it.

What about the silhouette is unflattering? I feel like white tattoo tights would make my legs look bigger. I'm already pear shaped so I think they'd be even more unflattering, and I don't think tattoo tights would go with the sweater. I agree about the shoes though

>>7919981
put your hair into cute low pig tails, changed the sweater to something not as childish to something more simple/vintage looking, and change the tights to cute socks.

>>7920061
>>7920070
To add to these anons about the tights thing, right now this coord is very bottom heavy. You have a huge light pastel section and suddenly black. Using lighter tights would actually draw less attention because right now the first thing I see is the giant black leg section. And you can keep the black shoes if you change the legwear. Maybe something like these to echo the purse? I also agree with other anons about the hair, you might want to consider a natural wig.

OP here, this will never get done if I'm writing the text all myself. Here's an example I did from my observations of Fairy Kei. It doesn't have to get into history or anything like that, since that doesn't actually help you identify or wear the fashion and if someone really gets into it they can google it themselves.
Here's the description prompts if anyone would help write one for some of the other styles and I'll edit it in. If there are any glaring inaccuracies in any description comment in thread or on the document.

About:
Main Style Points:
Hair and Makeup:
Use of Color:
Themes and Motifs:

>>7919223
anyone know the source?

>>7920083
Huh, I didn't think about it that way. I don't own any lighter coloured tights at the moment because I've always thought they'd be unflattering, but I'll grab a pair (maybe cableknit for some sort of slimming effect?) and try them out.

>>7918822
Do your worst

>>7920177
Uhhhh..
You look like a 5 year old who just rolled out of bed

>>7920177
All of this needs to burn.

>>7920182
Welp I couldn't find anything better to match the shirt with. I mean if anyone has a suggestion how to match a beige shirt with rainbow colors on it, please tell me.

>>7920177
I think the main problem is the bottom half, those pants and shoes just don't scream JFashion to me. Maybe some sort of skirt in a colour that's on your sweater, and cute boots would be better?

>>7920109
jfc sorry for flooding the doc with a billion individual comments, didn't realize it'd do that.

>>7920190
I bought the pants from taobao. the shirt was from aliexpress.
I have really big feet so I can't really get nice shoes that scream j-fashion.

>>7920193
Link to the shirt?

>>7920192
If you post your email in the docs chat box I'll add you as a collaborator.

>>7920195
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014-Autumn-Winter-Vintage-Fashion-Women-Batwing-Sleeve-Knitted-Rainbow-Zebra-Print-Sweater-Coat-Jumper-Pullover/2012345030.html

>>7920193
Shoe size?

I almost like how the colours of the shirt work with the pants, but the combination really does look incredibly frumpy. Maybe if you changed your pants to short shorts with the same pattern, put on a pair of otks and swap out the shoes for one of those sneakers with a platform or something.

>>7920177
I actually like the pants but I hate the shirt.

>>7920205
11 (for Chinese shoes because they run small)
My foot in actuality is moreover 10.5 wide
I prefer no heel with my shoes (I can't walk well in heels and I don't want to be taller than my bf, he's the same height as me)
Yeah I wanted to go for a rainbow effect but it didn't work out, what I tried at first were otk nude socks, but i had no bottoms to match it.
>>7920211
I really love my pants, I mean I think my shirt is okay but it's REALLY hard to match it with stuff.

>>7920217
I think the shirt and pants together are too busy and there's too much going on. Swap one (preferably the pants) out for something in a solid colour.

>>7920220
I tried that but I don't have a color that matches pants wise, only black. My navy blue leggings are transparent, as well as my gray, and my pink ones. I usually put shorts or a skirt on top my my leggings but that'd be too much going on too. Black feels like I'm killing the colors, similar to >>7919981
I'm so stumped with my shirt

>>7920199
Done and done. Thanks!

>>7920231
Damnit for some reason the chat box is being buggy and not opening for me. Email me here sorry.

>>7920226
>I usually put shorts or a skirt on top my my leggings but that'd be too much going on too
How do you mean? Don't you normally wear leggings under something else?

>>7920241
Some people wear leggings by itself, I don't usually do that.

>>7920237
No worries, I'm learning all this as I go along as well.

>>7920188
Black skinny jeans or a black skirt with colored tights

>>7920262
I don't own jeans, I'll try to get some this week for problems like this. Thank you for the advice!

>>7920262
>>7920270
I don't think jeans will make it jfash, assuming that's what Anon is going for.

>>7920279
Yeah but The only other thing I can do with this sweater is leggings with a skirt so I'll just try to not wear this sweater that much or something

>>7920282
What's wrong with leggings and a skirt...?

>>7920284
It's hard to do with that shirt plus I'm bad with colors.
Here's what I have:
Black leggings
Navy blue leggings
Gray leggings

Skirts:
Pink (salmon pink)
navy blue
black
Gray

I don't want to do black because that would kill the colorfulness of it. I don't want to do double colors either like navy blue skirt and navy blue leggings.
and I feel like for example navy blue leggings and a salmon pink skirt is just a weird color combo

>>7920298
I don't know if this outfit is salvageable...

>>7920298
>>7920302
Working with what you have, I mean

>>7920303
>>7920302
Yeah I figured that's why I said I'll just try not to wear it. Oh I also have light pink leggings but I don't have any skirts or shorts that go with the shade (I honestly only use them for one outfit I have sadly)

>>7920306
Maybe pink leggings with the black skirt? If any combination from your wardrobe will work, I think it'll be that one. Your dark hair and those shoes might make the black skirt less out-of-place

>>7920310
I'm not sure but I'll try it, I mean I can switch the shoes out to something else if needed.

By the way, I have to ask people in this thread:
Do you guys think it's okay to do an outfit with western things ADDED to the jfashion, if it looks good/decent?
For example if I wore something jfashion top wise but then added uggs.

>>7920319
Uggs are never acceptable anywhere.

>>7920319
What other shoes do you have? I think even converse high tops would look better than the ones you're wearing now

>>7920349
Uggs, moccasins, nude slip on flats, slip on mint green shoes (or light blue if you will)

>>7920397
I don't think you're cut out for jfash, anon.

>>7920399
I'm going to have to agree with this, you don't have many pieces that are jfash or even girly.

>>7920400
Bottom wise, I don't have much. But top wise I have jfash for sure.

>>7920397
I think the nude flats can be used for Jfash, anon. Just not for the outfit you posted. The jumper in particular is very hard to match with other Jfashion items; I think it's just meant to be worn with plain jeans. Those pants are super cute and could come to use later.

If it's not too much trouble, you could maybe describe or post pictures other clothes you have so we can figure out some cute outfits.

Also, is kogal allowed in these threads? I put together a coord but I'm not sure if I like it with one cardigan or another. I selfposted in the last one and got some really good advice.

>>7920423
Kogal is jfashion, go ahead

>>7920427
Yeah, I figured but I just wanted to make sure, thanks.

I just recently everything on the left but I'm not sure if the cream cardigan suits the red better.

>>7920457
The cream looks better, though there's something throwing me off about the tights/shoes combo

>>7920457
My two cents
Pink
>the shoes, cardi and headband go well together
>but I think red and pink look awful together
Cream
>cream looks nicer with red IMO
>but it doesn't match the shoes
Overall, I like the cream better personally

>>7920423
Yeah I see what you mean, I'll post tomorrow most likely.

>>7920457
where's the skirt from?

>>7920177
I don't even understand how this "j-fashion" in any way shape or form but okay.
I'd go with a purple/navy skirt and some cream tights with a subtle pattern to it. (Not leggings, please burn all your leggings) Or cream OTKs.
And some cute shoes in any color you want. (not converse pls)
Also do something with your hair and cut your bangs. That barrette is ugly

>>7920457
I wonder if the cream cardigan would work better if the tights were also cream rather than black.

>>7920457
I like the second one better but please unbutton the bottom button (or two). You're not supposed to button those plus they make your look like an inverted triangle. It'd look better with OTK's in cream or white too.

>>7920457
Can I have sauce on the skirt and pink shoes? Like the other anons, I prefer the cream. I'd also try out some lighter leg wear with both, as it can sometimes look odd with the dark leg and light shoe. Try what >>7920479 suggested, basically.

>>7920460
>>7920465
Thanks so much. Yeah, I figured the cream makes it look like an actual school uniform. I think loose socks would be ideal rather than black tights but I'll have to wait until May to wear those out. I'm guessing black/dark brown loafers would probably look better.

>mfw I had a perfectly good pair of loafers had to wear in high school
>mfw I threw them out at the end of Senior year

>>7920479
I'll have to try that out, thank you; I've been meaning to buy some cream/off white tights anyways. I only have white ones but I'm a little skeptical about using them for this coord since cream and white don't go that well together sometimes.

>>7920482
Shit, you're right it looks a lot better. Thanks, anon, and I'll try OTKs.

>>7920496
>>7920476
Yeah, I think the black is really overwhelming for a light outfit. Thanks!

Skirt:
>http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.186.Wv9Vly&id=27058436540
(10 - red and white pleated skirt)

Shoes:
>http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-2293493311.69.lYQRwE&id=14077963032
(Btw >>7920193 I'm also a size 10 (11 in China) and these fit perfectly.)

>>7919030
yeah, this looks like how 50% of young women i see around dress, rather generic looking to me
you look nice, but this outfit is not *j-fashion* inspo, needs something more, i think other anons gave you good tips
for j-fashion, a lot of it is in the details

thanks for selfposting though

This sweater is coming in the mail. New to coording stuff like this. I'm pear shaped so I guess that means long cardigans and longer skirts? Thinking blues, creams and greys.

I've hoarded about $105 in amazon gift cards, does anyone have experience buying basics from there? Plain skirts, berets, socks, accessories, stuff like that. The review system is great but I want to know what's seagull approved. Pic not really related, I prefer girly fashion.

We've actually got a decent amount done so far on the guide so here's the published link in case people want to use it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ECcbNJT2Xu9uB42ZQJS2A1LjZOasIxhDbbBAzdO6SHk/pub#h.xuhf5inqznoq

You can't add comments or anything to it so here's the editable link again.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ECcbNJT2Xu9uB42ZQJS2A1LjZOasIxhDbbBAzdO6SHk/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks for any contributions!

Has anyone ever bought the thigh highs from Predator Rat? I really love funky socks so I'm hoping to order some. I'll also dump some funky leg wear.

>>7920577

>>7920577
That girl looks like a Real Doll (or whatever those sex dolls are called) in the second picture, that pose is awkward as shit.

Moss Badger is under construction, any other good rosette shops? I will gladly accept Taobao or Aliexpress links as well, but I don't know what to search exactly.

>>7920577
I need more sweet printed thigh highs in my life if you know where to cop any of these please share.

>>7920586
Cool as fuck
How do you guys feel about subtle weeb in outfits? I was wondering after I saw these Madoka tights a while back.

>>7920606
Also have amazing Utena ones.

>>7920612
I was just about to post those! I think they're great personally. I totally slip subtle week thing into my outfits occasionally.

>>7920614
*weeb.

>>7920606
>>7920612
I feel like they'd look out of place in a normalfag outfit, though they would totally work with a jfashion outfit. Like everything, it depends on how you style them

>>7919256
Wow that skirt is gorgeous..
Anybody know?

>>7920177
Fuck tha haters, I love it.
I agree, do something else with the hair. Ponytail 3/4 on the top of the head or something. The hair is too flat for this atm.
A thing like this works if you got the attitude for it.

>>7920606
>>7920612
>>7920614
Forget about subtle weeb, I'd go full-on why'd-they-let-me-out-of-my-cage weeb for those tights. The shoes I see that are also being sold are killing me inside because I want them so badly. Thank you, Google reverse image search.

What style shoes look good with the leggings/skirt/shirt combination? I'm really struggling with trying to figure out the footwear aspect of matching things.

http://qun-to.shop-pro.jp/
I found a shop that's selling taobao stuff to japanese buyers and I think it's funny this shit happens to them too. kek

>>7920177
I actually kinda like this...

>>7920526
This is what I prefer to dress like outside of lolita, can we have more of this?

>>7920614
Fuck where do I get these. Uuuggh.

>>7920718
yooo me too, i have that picture on the right saved at least 4 times in my inspo folder. i'll try to post other shit i like in a similar vein.

>>7920753

>>7920754

>>7920755

>>7920758
forget this girl's name, which I'm sad about, because it's nice seeing someone that doesn't have stick thin legs wearing jfashion. anyone know?

>>7920762

>>7920766

>>7920770

>>7920772

>>7920773

>>7920776

>>7920778

>>7920781

>>7920783
i really like aymmy, think i'm gonna take a break from impulse buying lolita shit and making my regular day to day wear aymmy style

>>7920785

>>7920786

>>7920789

>>7920792

>>7920795

>>7920797

>>7920801

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>>7920806

>>7920808

>>7920812

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>>7920818

still want these tights

>>7920822
think im at a good place to stop, i have tons more tho

>>7920776
love this one.

>>7920762
She's Manitas!

>>7921066
thanks!

>>7920762
all japanese girls have stumpy bow legs

>>7921270
can u not

>>7920634
Ank Rouge

DIY TattooTights is not difficult.
Please search "DIY TattooTights".

>>7921270
>be 1/4th japanese
>rest of me mostly swedish
>tall as fuck
>bow legs as fuck for days
>inherit tiny breasts
>all other family members have huge tits
>have bigass hips and thighs
>tfw I just want to be a cute flat loli or a voluptuous vixen
>frankenstein of both
>perfect body for lolita
>horrible for any other jfash

>>7921509
You sound super hot, anon, super jelly.

>>7921270
I think they look that way because they're often kind of shapeless. Like, they'll taper obviously, but they don't have the curve to them that people of other races do.

I tried my best.

Mahou Kei
About: Basicly a style inspirated by the heroines of mahou shoujo anime.
Main Style Points: Either that magical girls would wear or clothes featuring them.
Hair and Makeup: Natural or dyed hair, fancy pastel wigs, eye-enlarging makeup and circle lens are prefered.
Use of Color: Pastels and bright colors.
Themes and Motifs: Anime prints, sailor uniforms, compact brooches

Pastel Goth
About: A dynamic mix of gothic elements with pastels and the harajuku street style, popularized in Japan by the shop staff of MAM Avantgarde.
Main Style Points: Black with pastel accents or the other way around.
Hair and Makeup: Usually pastel dyed hair or wigs, makeup can be everything from light pastels to the typical smokey eyes.
Use of Color: A combination of black with pastel colors.
Themes and Motifs: Studded or flower hairbands, pastel bondage gear, drippy pastel prints, platform shoes.

>>7921509

Tiny boobs with big hips and thighs is my dream bodytype, it's just so cute to me!

>>7922183
Inspirated isn't a word. It's inspired.

But whilst on the subject of mahou kei, anyone know where I can get pic related, with the etched lines on the star, that isn't starlight deco dream? After reading all the horror stories about her on here I'd rather not give her my money

>>7922262
https://www.etsy.com/shop/LaserBlastLaserCraft
I bought this one. It looks like the pic.

>>7922262
You maybe want to search the series's name on Taobao, there is plenty of stuff like this in various colors.

>>7922267
>https://www.etsy.com/shop/LaserBlastLaserCraft
You. You are a king amongst men.

>>7922274
I don't have a couple of hundred pounds to drop on a taobao order at the moment and the jew in me can't make an order if it's not going to be cost effective.

>>7920636
lol "fuck tha haters" that outfit doesnt go together. Not even in like a quirky jfashion way but in an awkward middleschool way. And everyone seemed pretty constructive

How is Mori-girl style?

>>7922432
http://morigirls.livejournal.com/1122.html#cutid1

Does anybody have any crit on how to make this outfit look more j-fashion related? I think I need more accessories, but I hardly wear them, and I have no idea where to start...

>>7922497
Maybe a belt around the waist? I'm not really a fan of how the petti is longer than the dress though, it doesn't look right to me

>>7922497
It looks sort of...lolita right now, and I don't mean that in the fluffy petticoats and frills way. I mean like nymphet shit. I would definitely swap the socks for tight or thigh high socks, and please get different shoes. Other than that maybe incorporate a bag and some jewelry? I do like the dress by itself though.

>>7922497
I think that socks is bad.
Colorful and long socks is better.

>>7919309
decopic

>>7922502

I'm actually wearing another skirt underneath, because the dress itself is a little short. I will start wearing a belt though, and I might ditch the skirt.

>>7922508

Most of my socks are really dark, and I'm afraid that they'll clash with the light wash of the dress. I guess this is a sign for me to start buying tights and thigh highs in lighter colors.

>>7922515

Do you have any suggestions on what kind of colors? I'm not sure how to match different colors in my outfits together yet....

>>7922518
BEAUTY PLUS

>>7922183
Thanks for the bit of backstory on pastel goth I wasn't sure how it connected to jfashion at all because of all the tumblr fad shit.

>>7919440
Uuuunh oh my god where can I get that skirt?

>>7922526
Some black OTKs might look cute matched with that black cardigan. I would look for some flat oxfords, but I just don't like heeled shoes in general (especially with "cutesy" fashion) so feel free to ignore that! Cute dress by the way, >>7922502 agree with the belt comment, maybe a thin black one?

>>7922183
Pastel goth isn't called the same thing or even a similar thing in Japan. Pastel goth as we know it, like you described is tumblr shit.

>>7922497
How?

>>7922646
That dress is not flattering at all

>>7922675

>>7922682

>>7922646
Maybe some sort of bolero instead of the cardi? You seem very triangle in that dress since it has a high neckline and flares out.

I hope self posts are okay! Concrit welcome.

>>7922586
Mam Avantgarde was also the ones who started the whole tattoo thighs fad, most of Juria's clothes were from there because she was part of the cashiers.
http://www.dls-showroom.com/

>>7923307
First, you are a cutie.
Second, it's not that the coord it's bad, but it's too plain, it looks just a regular school uniform. Maybe you can use some big sweater too look more Kogyaru?

>>7923307
I would use more interesting legwear, ditch the sweater vest for a cardigan, and get some accessories. Maybe something inspired by this with a rosette and beret. I'd also check out the makeup and hair threads for a more appropriate look.

>>7923506
>>7923517
This is an old picture of me, but something more like this? I really like the rosette idea-I'll keep my eye out for some!

>>7920820
i missed you noona

>>7923307
If you're going for school uni style buy an actual uniform neckbow or a tie. Your ribbon bow looks really shitty, sorry.

>>7923307
What style are you going for?
If your going for nanchette seifuku adding a blazer or oversized cardigan would help pull things together. Making it look more like a fashion versus a regular uniform

For a more retro girly or otona kawaii look ditching the sweater vest for a cardi with interesting detail and adding a hair accessory like a fuzzy beret would make it have more of a sweet fall look.

>>7923770
Wow that tartan is gorgeous, where did you get the skirt from?

>>7923307
Ribbon should go... Too much "white space" up top you know? Let the argyle underneath shine.

Also wouldnt go with white socks tbh. Black.

I was trying to go for a cute and casual look today... I realized afterwards that my outfit would've probably looked more balanced if I swapped the shorts for brown ones and the OTKs for cream ones instead? Concrit welcome.

Are there any plus size j-fashion bloggers who are good?

Also maybe put a sub-section in the doc with tips for what styles work well with plus size girls

>>7924422
unbearably cute but cream otks would have been more balanced

>>7924531
Protip: None of the pastel or rainbow barf ones.

>>7924533
>>7924422

I personally like the way the brown socks and boots bring out the little bow up top. It'd look especially nice if you matched it with a coffee brown nail polish with a gold/pink shimmer.

>>7924574
I think the boots are fine, but the socks on top of that are too much.

>>7920478
>>>7918822
Any bangs suggestions? I was going to grow it out.

>>7924422
Sauce on your shoes? Are they boots with just a slight heel? My campus is brick, and regular heels would make me break my neck.

>>7924555
Well that is a given, I'm talking about other things that most people don't think of, brands that carry larger sizes, etc

What are some styles of shoes that are in jfashion?

>>7924662
they look like these item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3.w4002-935421805.54.RSbT7b&id=17337713029

so yeah they have a heel

>>7920524
if you're pear shaped and not tall I would try something high waisted, it'll make your legs look long
if you use long clothes you run the risk of looking stumpy unless you're already tall (if you are then disregard)
I would try some high waisted polka dot jeans and tuck the sweater in a bit

>>7923307
where is that blouse from, anon?

>>7924422
Amazing, sauce on shorts?

>>7924533
Thank you so much, anon! Yeah, I realized that after I saw the picture... I don't have a full length mirror in my bedroom, so it's sometimes tricky to coordinate outfits.

>>7924574
I'm glad if you like the brown otks and boots combo! And thanks for the tip, I'll definitely give it a try!

>>7924662
I got them from Yumetenbo/dreamv over a year ago and they're sold out, but they have a bit similar ones available here; http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/dreamv/item/518627/ . My boots have a similar heel and they've been pretty comfy to walk in.

>>7924783
Thank you! I got the shorts second hand from Yahoo!Japan auctions and the brand is called Ank Rouge. Unfortunately I couldn't find the same ones for you, but just search Ank Rouge / アンクルージュ ショートパンツ and maybe you'll find something you like?

>>7924679
I was thinking once we finish the basics we can start adding brands and more information.

>>7924689
Creepers, platforms, lolita shoes, mary janes, loafers, cute not-stripper heels

>>7924307
>>7924336
Yeah, looking at pictures the ribbon looks a little lame. Why black socks? Just wondering!
>>7924326
I was just going for a uniform inspired jfash look. I have quite a few oversized cardigans, so I'll use those more! Thanks for the suggestions!
>>7924332
Bodyline, actually! They have relly nice pleated skirts.
>>7924745
Taobao! I can probably dig up a link if you want.

>>7924422
sauce on the jacket please? ive been dying for one like this.

>>7924531
OP here, rejected your additions to the doc. "Plus Size Jfashion" is not a thing that needs a category in the document. Plus size jfashion can be any of the styles already listed in the document, just plus size. If you want a guide specifically about plus size fashion tips and brands, make one on your own tumblr or something.

>>7925113
Why wouldn't it need a place on the document? Or if someone needs plus size suggestions should they just ask in this thread every time?

>>7925113
Wouldn't a little section for plus size broken up into any links/tips for the previous styles listed make the most sense? Something like

>Plus Size JFashion
>X
"shoes above size 7 for X style LINK, LINK, LINK"
>Y
"plus-sized stockings for Y style LINK"
"go for lighter colors with one dark item for Y style to avoid looking like a sentient pile of clothes"

I'll post some from my tag, I'm going through it right now for ebay haul inspo

>>7925197

>>7925194
This is the kind of thing I was hoping for, just a tiny section. If this is supposed to be a collection for all things j-fashion then it can't hurt to have plus size (or even tall-girl) information

>>7925206

>>7925208

As the guide is currently-- bout:
Main Style Points:
Hair and Makeup:
Use of Color:
Themes and Motifs:
--
It makes no sense to add in plus size. If anything, once style specific brands or shops are added to the document, those that also sell plus size clothes will be marked with an asterisk or something.

>>7925268
but it's already been established that there are some styles that don't suit plus size girls, I feel like that kind of thing should be mentioned

>>7925268
That brings up another point, a "Major Shops/Retailers" line should be added.

>>7925322
Since that sort of thing is subjective, and people will wear what they like best anyways it's not that necessary. If you care enough to warn/give tips, feel free to write a small list of which styles look best for plus size girls etc. and I'll add it to the bottom of the document.

>>7925113
Not her, but holy crap, what's your deal? You're like that person in a group project who wants everything their own way and won't let anyone else contribute because it's not how they want it.

>>7925385
Plus size jfashion is not a style, so it needs to be addressed differently. All they did was add a title and pictures of plus sized girls in random styles. Simple notes in existing styles like "plus size tips" or "good for plus size y/n" "plus size shops/brands," "Good example plus size coord photo" is fine. But someone else needs to supply the information if they want it included so desperately.
Tl;dr their contribution wasn't a contribution

>>7925401
My contribution wasn't a contribution that you liked, doesn't mean it wasn't a contribution period. Saying "go make your own doc" seems a lot less helpful than what I was suggesting

It wasn't set in stone, I was mostly just tossing ideas around

>>7925401
I can see where you're coming from, but deleting it outright seems bitchy to me. Someone else, or even you, can always flesh it out once the foundations are done

>>7925401
What kind of sand is caught up your cunt? The damn person was just offering an idea, no need to pull a flip out.

Well at least docs has a restore previous edit option. Have at your special snowflake category.

>>7925566
>Have at your special snowflake category.
>that reaction image
Welp, time to bail out of this project. Could have been cool

>>7925566
>special snowflake
lol

I don't understand why you're being so negative/salty

I thought the point of the project was to pool ideas together. So what if the way they approached it wasn't a good fit, that's what discussion is for, so we can change things and make them work

Nobody gets the joke that the whole guide/board is a special snowflake. Anyone who's wearing jfashion and claims to be not a special snowflake at all/ever is in denial. The only problem I had with it is that they made it a category. If I didn't want discussion I wouldn't have even mentioned it in this thread after deleting it and nobody would have known, thought about it, or cared other than the poster.

>>7925609
>gets the joke
How was that a joke or even sort of funny? I'm skinny as fuck. I've got 0 invested in the idea of a plus size section but even I can tell you're being really bratty and weird.

>>7925566
>waaah! why can't everything be MY way?!
If you wanted everything to be the way you wanted it to be, make a fucking tumblr. No shit people have different opinions on how to do things if its a collaboration. Don't start this sort of project if you can't handle being able to fucking compromise

>>7925609
>Nobody gets the joke that the whole guide/board is a special snowflake.
>If I didn't want discussion I wouldn't have even mentioned it

You sound autistic as fuck. Christ- put down the computer and back away. All you're doing is making yourself sound crazy as hell.

Does anyone else think the random plus size section anons seemed to be looking for handouts? no one dropped any links, or helpful information. Generic normalfag style tips for your body type work. Don't wear clothes too tight or too large. Solid colors are better than printed fabric. Bring attention to your best features with contrasting colors or extra embellishments, not your worst. Avoid pigtail wigs they widen the face and head. For some reason I can't view the document, I'm curious what pictures they uploaded.

>>7925609
>that butthurt

Oh cgl. OP gives a good reason for why plus size needs to be its own doc in a reasonable, calm, if not blunt manner and everyone goes OMG WHY YOU SUCH A SALTY SANDY CUNT RAG GO CHOKE ON A SAILOR COLLAR YOU RUINED THE THREAD.

>>7925722

this board and Behind the Bows act like a reminder that fat girls are generally fucking insufferable.cool fat chicks are rare and unique, like a fat unicorn.

>>7925722
>>7925729
>>7925720

Man, stop pretending that /cgl/ isn't curbing yet another halfassed project with a leader that doesn't know what they're doing and will throw a hissy fit once anyone tries to fix a problem/tell them to change something.

Fuck messing around with someone that doesn't know what they're doing and won't take suggestions or help well. You remove a cancer. If a structure isn't sound, you strip it down and start over. If OP is shitting around now it's definitely better that we know it.

>>7924531
I've got your back!

>http://chinesefashionlovers.tumblr.com (shopping)

>http://cupcakesloveme.tumblr.com/ (lolita/fairy kei ish)

>http://plussizetaobao.tumblr.com/ (shopping)

>http://c4tbus.tumblr.com/ (mori girl)

>http://kawaiiplussize.tumblr.com/ (shopping)

>http://therealbitchpudding.tumblr.com/ (Himegyaru)

some of the actually decent blogs I've come across!

>>7925722
This was never going to work in the first place because /cgl/ is such a toxic place. It was only a matter of time before this happened.

>>7925722
the only real reason they gave was that they didn't like the idea because "anyone can wear j-fashion" and they just said that the other anon should just make their own doc about it, which completely shut down the idea of a group project and discussion. i think the general consensus is that it wouldnt hurt to have some additional information here and there in the doc relating to plus size shoes and clothes and I really don't see what the big deal is.

>>7925720
> no one dropped any links, or helpful information.
because the idea is brand new and people are still trying to hash out ideas. also, OP restricted access to the doc and no one can see it. the pictures were just some random examples of plus size J-fashion, im sure they were just trying to brainstorm and see how things might look

>>7925782
shut down what group project? The project was just a visual guide to all jfashion styles to link in OPs as a way to educate the newfags on the basics. That way you get less "what style is this?" "Someone tell me what makes this outfit jfashion i could buy it all at the mall." "Is it just because a japanese girl is wearing it?" Then people can research the styles they're interested in further on their own. you could even use it in draw thread OPs.

>>7925769
different anon but thank you very much

>>7925107
The brand is called SpiralGirl, bought it second hand from Yahoo!Japan auctions a while ago, so unfortunately I can't provide direct source... I had been looking for a jacket like that for months and I was so happy to finally find one that wasn't ridiculously big on me. I hope you'll find one for yourself as well - good luck, anon!

>>7925782
Should we start a new doc? I'd do it myself, but I'm on mobile. Someone less autistic, and with less of an irrational dislike of chubby-chans can do it.

>>7925918
I'll do it.

Anyone can edit, comment, etc

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IMJlPvD6eZvwRFDYsNYzlTJZlU-8y7GcUIaSIeiv2I8/edit?usp=sharing

>>7925937
I can top that. I made a copy of the original to my drive right after the thread pissed off OP. Anything will be approved except obvious trolling or false information.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i59knMHgdsMDzGD18lq6hzoGVeWhk6J6oC0V-0uAR90/edit?usp=sharing

>>7926033
I'm on mobile so I can't comment on the doc, so here's creepy cute!
About: Often confused with its cousin Pastel Goth, creepy cute is a style that involves a general set of themes and colors. It often takes the form of girly streetstyle or aomoji kei but also occurs in other substyles, like nanchatte seifuku.
Main Style Points: Pastels with black, dyed hair or colored wigs, heavy accessorizing, a general girly theme.
Hair and Makeup: Hair is in pastel or bright colors. Makeup is generally typical girly makeup, usually with false lashes.
Use of Color: Pastels and black are typical, but bright colors a la Listen Flavor are sometimes used.
Themes and Motifs: Bats, eyeballs, bows, spiders, crosses, garters, horns,
bats, Listen Flavor and Kokokim items

>>7926313

>>7926316

>>7926313
Made suggestions with your input :)

>>7926033
Thanks for doing this anon!

>>7926351
Thanks so much, anon! I might do another substyle!

I made additions to uchuu kei, CPK, pop-kei, and nanchatte seifuku.

Uh wow I wasn't expecting all this to happen lol. I was just trying to throw some stuff out there and see how things might go. I wasn't trying to be special snowflake or get handouts or something.

>>7925769
Wow thanks so much anon, you are a star!

>>7920801
>Lol lemme pose wiff da calculator

adorable outfit, but some of these poses

It's the weekend, let's get some selfposts!

>>7925937
>>7926033
Thanks, guys, really appreciate this!

Added all the suggestions. We've nearly completed the basic bare bones guide! I'm proud you guys.
Dropping the published link because it can start being useful.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i59knMHgdsMDzGD18lq6hzoGVeWhk6J6oC0V-0uAR90/pub

I took himekaji and put it under gyaru with Heading Style 3. So any other gyaru substyles we add should be formatted similarly.

The remaining things we need information added on are Gyaru, gyaru substyles, Visual Kei, and Decora. After that we can definitely add more things to the document like brands, tips, style icons, links to online shops and taobao shops.

>>7927961
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i59knMHgdsMDzGD18lq6hzoGVeWhk6J6oC0V-0uAR90/pub

Back with more plus size info for you guys
Plus Size Brands: Plumprimo, PUNYUS, Maxicimam: Lovely Size
Magazine: La Farfa
Tips: Some loosefitting "freesize" clothes can fit larger sizes. Keep an eye out for elastic waists and shirring. Some taobao sellers will do custom sizing.

>Hair and Makeup Tips:
>Use of Color:
>Themes and Motifs:
I don't think these are needed on that category, things like Resource Blogs or magazines would make more sense for this one!

>>7927991
Good idea! someone posted plus size tumblrs above. Should I steal that?

>>7928018
Haha that was me and yes you should use those too.

The categories should be:

>Where to Buy:
>Plus Size Brands/Lines:
>Magazines:
>Resource Blogs:
>Styling Tips:

or something like that.

>>7928028
edit, I would combine mags and blogs into a Resources: category upon further thought.
Where to Buy and Brands could also be combined.
Sorry I've got a cold or something and I'm a little off.

Since I contributed a bunch to the doc, maybe someone can help me out in return?
Before cgl I dressed pretty awfully. Now, I'm trying to revamp my wardrobe, and I have a bunch of basics. But, how can I make it more "jfashion"? Does anyone have suggestions for accessories?

>>7928034
I'd love to help!
Are taobao links acceptable?
Could you tell us the styles you are most interested in?

>>7928034
Def need some cute hair accessories!

>>7928039
>>7928041
Yes! Taobao is great, I really want to put in an order but I am honestly lost. I love himekaji-style girly fashion, but I don't love pink so I'm afraid it'll get lost in translation. I also love dolly kei but it isn't really making an appearance here.

Any dude inspo?

>>7928058
First some accessories from akilya that could work with the colors you have here. Akilya probably has the cutest jfashion style accessories on taobao.
Hairbows
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=40307202062
bow bracelet and ring
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=40292567663
star clips
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39310868663
bow earrings
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=38541439104
necklaces
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=38539726136
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=38534491732
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=22589079987
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19953322911

I'll go check in more shops in my favorites!

>>7928118
Oh my gosh, thanks so much lovely anon! Those links were all as amazing as you are!

>>7928118
I don't know what your power level is but this sailor moon necklace is pretty sweet regardless
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=42075319311
these cherry earrings might match your maroon things
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=17101135196
Same as the middle bow here
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=17822257736

pearl collar necklace
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19933609490

This shop has sooo much jewelry so I'm just going to link it
http://darkmilk.taobao.com/

This shop has some cute bags. Some are probably replicas but nobody cares.
http://michiko613.taobao.com/
This shop has a lot of quirky and cute bags http://xiaoxiangbag.taobao.com/

You need some super cute shoes too for more of a jfashion feel.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=40727534259
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=41266978012
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=40761816909
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=17337713029
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=18647257396
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=27460052824
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=22807360381
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=39337701283
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=41896735615
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=41359827183
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=41518645103
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=41140335115

Not accessories but I feel like some of the clothes in this shop would match your style. http://naierwuyu.taobao.com/


>>7928137
No problem! I'm trying to do the same thing now that I have money. I have collected wayy too many taobao links than I even probably would do stuff with so I'm happy to share. I'll save shop links even if they're not my style because I hoarde links. Good luck! I'd love to see your coords when you're satisfied with you're wardrobe.

>>7922262
Oh dear I have this, what horror stories? Are her products faulty? I spent a pretty penny on it too.

>>7928224
antikyandi.tumblr

>>7927364
Seconding

Can I get some feedback on this hairstyle? I'm not sure if it's cute or looks like shit.

>>7928979
It doesn't look like anything special but it's fine.

>>7928979
can't tell if it's your posture but it's not flattering you right now

get some of the side pieces to be feathered so it frames your face better.

I just got this dress from ebay recently and was planning on wearing it with a simple black cardigan, black mock thigh highs, and some basic black ballet flats with bows on them.

The flats are the only shoes i have atm that will match it, but I've been planning on getting those T.U.K. cat mary janes that I think might be cute with it, as well as a matching kitty shoulder bag I have coming in the mail.

Any suggestions?

>>7929117
>navy with black
>cat themes with a sailor dress
okay...

>>7929117
Don't do any of the things you suggested in your post. If you wear black with it, it's just going to look like you can't tell black and navy apart. I'd go with white socks, red or wine cardigan, and red or wine shoes to match the cardigan. Not quite sure why you're insisting on matching a cat theme to a sailor dress.

>>7928979
Your bangs look like a totally separate haircut from your hair. >>7929003 has the right idea, I suggest getting some layers going down the side.

>>7929166
Ok, thank you. I see what you mean about the navy/black thing. Any suggestion for a type of shoe?

>>7920743
Late reply - they're from Lolita Syndrome, but they're sold out right now. They have got some other cute OTKs though.
http://lolitas.theshop.jp/

Why is everyone this board such raging autists?

>>7929117
So cute, do you happen to have a link for it anon?
Can you possibly tell us what the quality is like?

>>7929398
i'm so sad i missed out on those shoes

>>7929398
Sorry, I don't think it's available anymore. You could try searching "sailor style dress" I found some similar ones doing that.

Here's the seller i got it from though, they have a lot of cute stuff: http://www.ebay.com/usr/zminglel

>>7929424
I might try to diy some with a pair of generic taobao pumps.

>>7927961
Anon, I submitted formatting edits because for some reason, the published version shows up weird for me.

>>7929424
I got you, anon.
>http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.0.0.wWtMuA&id=41978657081&ns=1&abbucket=9#detail

>>7930189
And here's one with a slightly higher rating.
>http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.q3bzVZ&id=42178171296&ns=1&abbucket=9#detail

>mfw i'm a size 10
>mfw i will never have kawaii bunny feet

>>7922267
Got the Sailor Pluto orb form that store before the pearls were added as an option but still goods stuff. I like that they went with the manga style orb rather than the animu version.

>>7929196
Mary janes are fine, or even oxfords/brogues with a small heel (I'd suggest wine rather than red for brogues though

>>7930191
Same, 26cm feet over here... I might just try to cram my feet into the largest size.

>>7930189
are there any more taobao knockoffs of yumetenbo/dreamv shoes?? There are so many shoes from their older collections that I want

>>7922183
Pastel Goth is more western and can be associated with "soft grunge" in a bit more feminine style and pastel.

I think in Japan, it's more known as Creepy Cute/Kawaii

Got any good advice for someone that's 5"10 and despite being skinny I'm born with hips wide enough for a kid to go cart out of there and big thighs to match.

Got any ideas on what I should give a proper try? Everything feels too short compared to my measurements so I get discouraged from time to time but I still keep finding myself scrolling through tokyofashion.com and reading kera

>>7931276
They don't even know the term Creepy Cute in Japan so what the fuck are you talking about, Pastel Goth is パステルゴス and Soft Grunge is images and not a style.

>>7931276
Creepy cute/ kawaii? Are you trying to say "creepy kawaii" or "kowai kawaii"? Either way, I've only seen those terms on tumblr, but I personally like them to differentiate between actual pastel goth and random cute stuff with eyeballs and bats on it.

Sorry if this gets asked a lot and I missed the answer, but...

Does anyone have any J-fash tips/recommendations for someone with a pronounced bust? ((35-23-32, to be exact))

It seems like it looks best on people with fairly uniform proportions pretty much across all styles, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

>>7931288
I don't know about the tall part, but skirts will easily fit over and hide big hips!

I think mori girl esp. would but good for bottom heavy girls, and you can layer long skirts so height isn't a problem! But really anon, go for the style you like, and find ways to make it work for you!

>>7931354
Some people wear sports bras/binders to reduce their bust line. What style were you interested in though, j-fashion is a broad term.

>>7931354
Don/t wear a sports bra or bind. I wish people would stop giving this advice. It will make your boobs look sad and loaf-y. Invest in a nice unpadded bra (panache is my personal favorite brand for this). It will give you a really nice shape without adding to your measurements.

>>7931288
>>7931360
TALL MORI'S ARE SO CUTE! But for more specific advice you may wish to scroll through the tall jfashion thread here:
>>7889016
There should be some inspo and some actual advice, but I haven't looked through it yet myself!

But yes, mori style has fewer strict rules about where things should fall and more forgiving hem lengths. Tall girls look mega cute in mori styles, but you may also have fun with otome!

>>7931354
jfashion, like any fashion looks fantastic on slim people! That being said, as long as you pay attention to the cut of the clothing you pick and the general style it will look nice. Big chest or otherwise. ofc you may not be able to pull off the slouchy pull over sweater look as easily unless you bind, and you'll have to avoid garments constructed specifically for people with small chests- but you have to do that in western fashion as well.

For the record, suspender skirts/shorts look really cute on girls with a defined chest (as long as you don't buy a size to small! then it looks porny), and a lot of gal-eque styles look really cute on a variety of body types!

>also otome, but I'm biased because I think otome looks cute on everyone

>>7931363
Things along the line of:

>>7919450
>>7920806
>>7920797
>>7920776

Are my personal favourites, pretty much anything with the shorts+tights aesthetic regardless of the base style.

I'm also really into styles that make use of Lolita elements in a more casual way, be it skirts, accessories... anything really.

Annnnnd simple cute dresses like
>>7920772
Are great too.

Not really brushed up on all of my terminology, so I only really know precise terms for the bigger J-Fashions, if there's a precise term for anything I've mentioned I'd love to learn more!

>>7931398
binding can make your chest look loafy depending on how much you're binding down, but if you have a properly fitting sports bra you shouldn't have boob loaf. Some styles of sports bra lend themselves moreso to boob loaf than others, but again, if you're buying something that fits and you've tried on that shouldn't be the case.

I do agree though that unless you're crossplaying you shouldn't really bind. (I sorta sound like I'm recommending it in my comment below you though oops)

>>7931399
Ooh! Thank you, I do really like the suspender look. I'll take a bit more of a look into gal and otome.

>>7931414
You could try checking out the handy dandy guide we made in this thread if you haven't already!
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i59knMHgdsMDzGD18lq6hzoGVeWhk6J6oC0V-0uAR90/pub

>>7931572
Ah! The link in the OP didn't work when I tried! Thank you very much, seagulls

>>7931817
To be honest, I really want this thread to sage so we can make a fancy jfashion general with a sticky and everything.

The editable doc is no longer working, but I did a few gal substyles (hime, kogal, and rokku + baika)
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TrwKF1FRRw9Q-MXBHjmgAw4Cv3bD7hJjLExv_9aDmJ8/edit?usp=sharing

>>7931959
I can't check until I get home but were you using the new link? One in op doesn't work anymore. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i59knMHgdsMDzGD18lq6hzoGVeWhk6J6oC0V-0uAR90/edit?usp=sharing

>>7931878
Someone write an epic sticky we can use.

Chubby links anon here, the document is looking great as a whole, and I love the changes you've made to the plus size section! Excellent job guys.~
Let me know if there's any other info anyone needs help hunting down!

Does anyone know the source on this... poncho? Scarf?

>>7933276
I think that's a funky cut sweater anon, look at her arms

>>7934120
New thread