/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Reposting my second question from the last thread -

I'm getting a custom sized dress. I want the stock size S, but with the sleeves and dress length extended for my white girl long arms and legs.

How do I make that 100% clear to my SS?

I don't want to end up with some ill-fitting mess, but she's asking for my body measurements, and I don't want it to end up really tight or anything.

>>7870455
What shop are you ordering from?

When I get custom I send in a full body chart with all measurements marked in cm that are relevant. The shop SHOULD realize (if they are any of the well known taobao shops you'll be fine) that they need to add wearing ease to the dress, and I've never had a custom order botched up and made to my direct body measurements.

Why are HLC so crazy?

>>7870465
Miss Point. I've heard that their quality is pretty nice, but I haven't been able to find any info on their custom sizing.

I can also get it in a custom color and I can't fucking decide. I just dyed my hair purple and I have no idea what would look nice.

Is it normal to be put off buying second hand clothing? Or am I just being a stuck up bitch?
There's some things I really want, but I'm always obsessive over my hygiene.

>>7870854
Well, you're going to launder or dry-clean it before wearing, right? I mean, the clothes you buy at a regular retail store are pretty filthy too.

Can someone in the Cali comm start a petition to have Melissa kicked out please? I feel awkward doing it because I am not even from the same country and don't know half of the drama surrounding this person. I tried to post on btb but it is marked as spam.
http://www.petitions24.com/start-petition

>>7870854
youre not the only one. i buy everything new. my closet would be 3x larger if i did buy secondhand, though. might have to resort to buying used when i quit my job

>>7870854
Given how obsessively the majority of lolitas are about their clothes, it's probably fairly safe

>>7870854
eh, I grew up wearing hand-me-downs, shopping at thrift stores, etc. so not weird to me to shop for perfectly fine lolita second hand.

Is anyone going to Street Fashion Europe and looking for a hotel buddy?

Okay, so i've never purchased from AP japan and I noticed that when something is out of stock it explicitly says SOLD OUT. But I noticed that some stock is a white button that doesnt say sold out and when translated it says "stock your" does this just mean its low stock or something?

>>7871075
For the sake of international buyers, white button means sold out. It means some stock are probably available at a local shop and the Japanese girls can arrange to purchase that.

>>7871075
white button means it's in stock in local stores, you can purchase it if you have a more personal SS who can do cash on delivery. SS like tenso, japonica, etc. can't buy them, as they don't do cash on delivery.

>>7871077
> Japanese girls
As in, the Angelic Pretty sales assistants or SS?

>>7871086
>>7871077
Oh I see, thanks for clearing that up for me!

Can I just say I am fucking sick to death of newbies asking if their fucking bodyline shipments are coming in like goddamn every fucking hour now
YOUR BODYLINE SHIPMENTS ARE GOING TO COME IN
THEY WILL TAKE AWHILE
BUT YOU WILL PROBABLY GET THEM
NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP GODDAMN

>>7871188

Stop being a sandy cunt. Newbies or not, it's normal for people to wonder if their shit is actually being sent since lots of people aren't getting any shipping confirmation email for orders they made weeks ago.

>>7871205
Bodyline is an established company with a long record of taking their time, but sending things. It's not fucking milanoo.

How do things come packaged from AP USA? Is it the same from AP Japan?

>>7871087
As in Japanese customers.
So that would include SS.

>>7871581
depends on what you're getting. i have a feeling that shoes would be boxed? at least i hope so.
i've gotten the majority of my stuff from AP usa, save for a purse from AP japan. all items came in either poly-bags or taped-up AP bags. everything is packaged in clear plastic resealable bags.

What the shit is going on here?

This is my shipping quote for a single dress. Why is AIR so expensive? Usually it's like $10 max for even a heavy dress.

I mean, it gives me an excuse to go with EMS for a change, but god damn.

>>7871621
And I forgot my pic.

>>7871621
Where's the quote from and what country are you in?

>>7871623
Sorry, I dropped pic. It's there now.

But, I've gotten things from the same SS with WAY lower shipping. A blouse and a headdress was only $4 AIR IIRC. I understand that obviously a dress is going to be heavier (It's wool, so it's pretty damn heavy) but it's not a fucking brick.

That's the EMS cost I would expect, but why on Kami's green earth is AIR more expensive than EMS?

(I'm in the US)

Found this picture on a board here once before. It has inspired me to make something similar. but I was just wondering if anyone knew the sauce and if it's homemade or from a brand?

>>7871631
I dunno, man. But I'm in Australia and Air is always higher than EMS unless it's a flat item like a magazine. So I just get EMS.

There was supposed to be a rate change coming up soon, maybe it's in effect and that's what's up?

Saw ths on Rufflechat today.
Anyone esle find this slightly patronising?

>>7871670
No?

>>7871670
Not patronising but I am not sure if she should be discouraging questions from her group.
Plus it comes a bit odd to ask the community to do the work for her. She is a mod after all.

>>7871025
I actually know a ton of girls who don't wash their dresses because they're afraid the print will run.

>>7871670

I thought this was smart. Girls sometimes need to be reminded that arguing in FB threads only serves to bump them, and since FB doesn't have a downvote system the only way to make these things go away is via likes and commenting on the things they do want to see more of instead of arguing about what they want to see less of.

>>7871670

Nope, doesn't come across as patronising to me at all. What she said makes sense too imo.

>>7871670
I dont think that word means what you think it means.

Source on boots? The outfit rundown just says "offbrand".

>>7871991
It is the VM Short Boot replicas

>>7871991

Secret Shop replica of VM boots. Clobba did Go's for them.

>>7871994
>>7871996
Ok, thanks! I suppose that means I missed out, then?

>>7871015
>what

>>7871659
Usually here in the grand land of the free AIR is dirt cheap. Like I said, $4 for a blouse. eBay sellers in china usually ship shit for free, or fo like $1.50 to the US. This is insane comparatively.

What shopping services do you guys like for ordering from rakuten? I was going to go with Chibi Tenshi but I just saw a notice on her site saying she's gone until 10/26. I've used Japonica before (I think) and it was so fucking expensive. Anyone else that's good/not going to charge me 200%?

>>7872687
I like FromJapan, I've used them for both auctions and SS and never had a problem. There's a few fees in there but they still add up cheaper than a lot of other SS.

>>7872687
If the store does forwarding you can also use tenso.

>>7872687
Use a forwarding service if they don't ship internationally. I personally use Big in Jap if I don't need something sent super quickly (I think Tenso ships out more quickly) and with Big in Jap you can use SAL, registered SAL and airmail as shipping options. When buying the forwarding service you have to put in the comment details about your order as they don't give you a membership number like Tenso. Also you can put in there how much you want your item marked down by.

>>7871015
What the fuck? Why..? Are you some transphobic retard?

>>7872726
No the problem with Melissa isn't because it's ~trans~. It's because he's a shitty and creepy person in general. He shouldn't get special treatment just because he's ~trans~. Get the fuck over it. Check the secrets for more details, newfag.

>>7871015
What has she done?

>>7872687
If you're just using Rakuten try e-mailing the shop and ask if they can mail it overseas. I used this as a message but it's for the US specifically.

(A greeting, I just put Hello to go full gaijin)
お聞きたいことがありますが、(item url) を海外に発送することは可能でしょうか?またその場合アメリカへのお送料いくらほどになるでしょうか?ご検討いただけると幸いです。

They understood what I sent so I think the Japanese isn't too rough.

>>7871015
>I am not even from the same country and don't know half of the drama surrounding this person
Then it's none of your business though. I cringe so hard at everything people say about Melissa, but I'm not from the comm either, so it's not my place to say anything.

>>7872788
>>7872726
From what I understand, she is a creepy ephebophiliac who has threatened and made many people in the comm uncomfortable. I am sick of seeing so many people complaining about her and I have seen that some have stories that would get Melissa kicked out of the comm, but they cant share them as Melissa has threatened to be physically violent towards people who oppose her before. It is time to speak up about this. If we make a petition, then people can show that they want her kicked out without feeling threatened by the vile woman.
This person is tainting my opinions of the whole comm. She shouldn't get special treatment because she is supposedly trans. She identifies as a sissy on her Facebook page. Sissies are adult MEN who dress up as little girls for pleasure. She has brought sissy friends to meet ups (Paul I think his name was?) who made suggestive and inappropriate comments towards lolita.
>>7872833
It is my business. Melissa drama has been discussed on cgl. When people from other boards come look at this they will see us discussing sissies in lolita. If they don't know much about the fashion, they will assume it is a fetish related thing. We already have enough issues with that already without people actually accepting people who openly admit their fetish into the community and berating those who oppose it. When normalfags see "her" dressed badly and looking very much like a sissy in public with proper lolitas they will assume that lolita is a fetish. I had seen her before I even knew who she was and what she had done, and was really concerned that people would think badly of the fashion if they saw her.
She is an embarrassment to all lolitas, especially brolitas. She isn't wearing it as a fashion, but using it to fulfil her sexual fantasies.
/rant

>>7872860
THANK YOU. I agree with everything you said and I am a part of the community. Every time I have tried to speak up in person at meets about how uncomfortable melissa was causing me and many times the actual reasons were disregarded because they would only focus on me being transphobic. I NEVER MENTIONED HIS GENDER OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION and yet that is the only thing the lolitas seem to notice. It is not about transphobia. It has nothing to do with him being a "transsexual" - WHICH BTW HE ISNT IF HE IDENTIFIES HIMSELF WITH SISSIES AND HAVING FANTASIES ABOUT CROSSDRESSING. It is about him being a creep and a threat to the community. We have plenty of transsexual/transgendered/brolitas in the community that do not get this amount of negative attention because they don't behave the way melissa does.

GTFO melissa. And fuck you bitches who made me out to be discriminating against transsexuals.

>>7872934
Would you please take over the petition then? I feel much more comfortable with having someone who is actually in the comm writing it in case I do something wrong or make a false assumption.

>>7872860
>>7872788
It'd lessen the confusion if we all stopped referring to the guy as a "she" too, I think that's what causes most of the "omg you're a transphobe" comments. He clearly doesn't identify in that manner and sure as fuck doesn't need to be referred to as such.

Besides, I would think that the biggest problem is the fact that this guy's threatened people with violence and thinks that it's an appropriate solution to conflict. That shit shouldn't fly in any comm, regardless of gender/sexuality/whatever.

>>7872017
nope, just email Martin of clobba to see if he still has any left in stock! That's how I got mine and a friend's boots! (although we're US 8.5).

>>7872860
>she
>her

But he's not trans?

>>7872726
Transphobia doesn't apply to someone who's not even identified as trans, sweet cheeks.

>taking the bait.

>>7872940
I would but I cannot handle the backlash I received. It was bad enough being called transphobic in person (I didn't go to another meet for almost a year because of how awful I felt. I don't discriminate against anyone because of their gender or sexual orientation), I don't know if I could handle lolitas all across the world saying the same thing. It's obvious to see that I'm not the only one but anonymous is anonymous. I don't know how many lolitas would agree with me vs how many would disagree. I am afraid of being shunned because I am a newer lolita that was is just now trying to be active. I admit I'm a coward but I would be more than happy to stand behind a seasoned lolita who had witnessed and encountered more of Melissa's fucked up behavior, as I think they would have more merit than someone brand new.

>>7872947
I thought he identifies as a woman? I think he isn't actually trans, but if he says he is then people should call him "she", because otherwise we DO look like transphobics who won't respect his decisions and are kicking him out for being trans.

>>7872860
As a brolita myself, Melissa and people like him are one of the reasons within the Lolita community I feel discredits and bruises the presence of males within the fashion's culture.

The fashion itself is about embracing femininity without being overtly sexual. Melissa is a prime example of when someone goes out of their way, despite their ignorant intentions to sully and poison this idea. Melissa is, as stated, a sissy. His only reason to cross the gender binary isn't for genuine expression but rather to live out a fantasy that seems to be based on self-degregation and possibly gender hate-he gets off from being emasculated.
Melissa, and men like him, any man who hasn't adapted good social skills and joined this community and become purposely perverted towards people are tarnishing the reputation of brolitas. There's already a stigma developing where brolitas tend to be associated with the word "creepy". Melissa simply wants to pick up girls and make them fill his sexual pleasures. He is not transsexual, and he is not transfeminine. He is guilting members of that comm into not kicking him out because no one wants to say anything that would make them look like a hater. We should be bringing brolitas closer into the comms, and stopping potentially dangerous people like Melissa.

>>7872995
can I quote this?

>>7872998
Like use the entire thing as a testimony from how someone in an international comm could also be affected by his behaviour?

>>7872983
Can someone explain this further to me? I am open minded about people's genders and would be happy to call them with whatever they identify with but I haven't delved into "tumblr" mode of it. I would like to be more educated about transgendered people.

If Melissa identifies with themselves as a woman, I would be more than happy to call them a woman. But if Melissa identifies himself as being a sissy, I do not think of him as a woman, but as a man role playing as a woman for sexual purposes. If you are telling me that sissies = transgendered then I must be fucked up in the head for thinking that is wrong.

>>7872998
>>7873001
Sure.

>>7872983
It doesn't sound like he does according to >>7872995

Unfortunately, someone from the comm would have to mention whether or not he directly requested to be referred to as "she" because you're right, it's going to make a difference about how things are perceived.

>>7872860
wow this is interesting. i'm in the comm as well but i'm not quite active. he attended the first monthly meet up i've been to, but was very quiet and kept to himself. he usually hangs around the older ladies that are gross, imo.
the next meet up i'm going to is a tea party for halloween and it looks like he's going ..

I have: Melissa Brown is an embarrasment to the lolita community, both in California and internationally. Her presence has made many people feel uncomfortable, to the point where they will not go to meet ups where she may be present. She has made violent threats towards other people in the San Francisco community, and it has been suggested that she uses the fashion as a way to fill her sexual fantasies. Liking facebook pages such as "Sissydom" and "Transgender Crossdressing Transsexual Fantasy Video" on the same Facebook account she has created for her lolita identity shows that she considers lolita to be a fetish, as she associates the two together. Anyone who remotely insults this person is labeled as transphobic, which has heavy implications in todays society.

then >>7872995
and then a picture showing his "her face will meet my fist" comment.

What else should I say?

>>7873040
Maybe you should explain the differences between being trans and a sissy for those who will likely not understand the difference or try to say "but Melissa is really trans!"

>>7873002

He's a sissy pretending to be a trans.

Thus, he guilt trips people into not kicking him out, because they'll come across looking like they're transphobic if they start drama on him.

Thus, the use of the word "she" when he really isn't trans.

>>7873040
It's "he" not "she". He's not trans, and it very wrong to call him that because it gives him unwarranted sympathy that real trans people deserve.

>>7873067
This is kind of a brilliant strategy

He can sissy it up all day long and he will never be kicked out because tumblr and social justice and transphobia

christ

http://www.petitions24.com/kick_melissa
Please let me know of any changes that should be made. You can post with a false name, but use a correct country. I am the only one who can see emails I think but I left that to stop people from just signing over and over again.
>>7873067
>>7873070
>>7873073
>>7873060
Fyi, we have no proof that she is not trans. Women can also be sissies, it is just more common for men. If Melissa says she is trans then it is not appropriate for you to comment on this, otherwise you make us appear transphobic. You do not actually know she is not trans, you are just assuming this because of her fetish. I even believe it may be the case but we have no actual proof.

>>7873040
Transgender, crossdresser, and sissy are completely different things.

A transgender person feels they were born in the wrong body and goes against society's gender. It is appropriate to identify them as the gender they identify with the most because if they think they are a woman, they ARE a woman (vice versa). They do not transition from man to woman or woman to man when they feel like it.
Crossdressers dress in the opposite gender. A woman can crossdress as a man. A man can crossdress as a woman.
Sissies are men who want to be highly feminized. They ideal feminine things, like lace and frills (lolita???) and live out their fantasies at their own time. Hence the difference between a sissy and a transgender person: sissies are men who pretend to be woman and revert back to being men when they are done with the fantasies while a transgender woman stays a woman 24/7, just as cis-gender people stay their own gender. crossdressing is just clothes.

Melissa is his sissy boy handle. Melissa at lolita meets is him living his sissy fantasy. Melissa at lolita meets is a man pretending to be a woman for said fantasy. Melissa is not a woman.

>>7873103
male or female, a lolita community is no place for sissy fetishists

>>7873103
Unless he's explicitly stated he's trans, I don't see why anybody would call him a "she".

>>7873103
Okay while I appreciate the petition, I don't understand how woman could be sissies too when sissy came from the idea that men should be dehumanized, humiliated, and forced to be feminized; men that like sissy boys are often misogynistic in their ideals and sissy boys love being feminine and are often the submissives in the relationship. A sissy not is not a woman.

>>7873117
Sissy boy* damn autocorrect

>>7873103
Women can't be sissies, as sissification is forced feminization c'mon man.

>>7873117
>>7873116
>>7873113
>>7873111
>>7873129
I don't want to make those accusations as his/her gender has nothing to do with why they don't belong in the community. Even back in BtB in 2012 they were calling Melissa a she. Regardless of what she actually is, I am not going to discuss her being a fake transgendered person as it does make the petition seem transphobic. Even if she never specifically said she was a "she" it is implied that this is her preferred pronoun. If we make this seem like it has something to do with her gender identity then it won't go anywhere.
inb4 tumblr yes I am acting tumblr-y right now but just because she is a sissy doesn't mean that she doesn't say she is transgendered.
Ive looked it up, it says on both wikipedia and here that you can be a female sissy.
http://www.experienceproject.com/question-answer/Can-I-Female-Be-A-SissyI-Have-This-Girl-She-Wants-To-Be-My-Personal-Sissy-Slave-But-Is-It-Normal-Can-As-Be-A-SISSY-If/2095122

>>7873132
I dont think you can have a female be a sissy because the point of it is that you are making someone feminine for a sexual purpose or when used as an insult it is just implying that a man is being too girly, and females are inherently that. Even in that link, some of the responses are saying more of age play stuff in general or saying that you dont do sissy as a female. Wiki does not say that females can be a sissy either, in fact just says that sissy can be used as a term of affection for siblings, which is not fetish related.

>>7873103
Women can't be sissies though, because it is about feminization (usually as a form of degradation/punishment), which is moot if you're already a woman. See >>7873117

>>7873103
I don't care what the fuck gender Melissa is, but seeing him physically threaten someone is not okay.

Signed, and coming from someone in the sf community who has tried to be civil with Melissa

Speaking on the topic of a sissy in the SF Comm. Anyone else want to bring up sissies from other Comms?

>>7873132
Wouldn't that be DDLG/Little kinda thing, rather than a sissy? The comments on that link are utter bullshit and not comprehensive. You can't be a female sissy.

>>7873132
If you wanna be that PC, you might want to fix the quote, because it uses male pronouns throughout.

>>7873132
>If we make this seem like it has something to do with her gender identity then it won't go anywhere.
But that's what he's been hopping onto to avoid getting banned. Inevitably someone is going to bring that up. It's not transphobic to point out he's been using transgenderism as an excuse to stay in the community and scare off anyone who dares to say something about it.

So honestly, for the sake of the lolita community where he is and actual trans people, he should be address as a he unless he personally states otherwise.

>>7873132
If you're going to be tumblr-y, I'd prefer for you be a tumblr feminist when sissies are involved, rather than trying to defend sissies as being in the same category as transgendered people... That's really an insult to think sissy boys are the same as a transgendered woman who was born in the wrong body :/

>>7870865
Ha, this. Thank you for posting.

Nobody seems to understand. I am not saying that I think sissies are the same as transgendered people. I am not saying that Melissa is male or female. All I am saying is that if we want this to be taken seriously by the people who whiteknight Melissa then it has to be clear that it has nothing to do with her being transgendered. Being a sissy is separate from being transgendered. Transgendered is an identity, being a sissy is a kink. Nobody is special because they are transgendered. If we bring up her being transgendered there is a possibility that it could backfire on us.The point that she evades being kicked out by throwing her identity around is a good point but this isn't about what she has done to avoid getting kicked out, its about why she should be kicked out. No one actually gives a crap what gender she is, they care that she creeps people out and has threatened physical violence.

>>7873183
So nothing about being transgender gets mentioned, fine. However,publicly indulging in kink (Sissification) in a community where there are possibly underage girls is not okay. In the end, we want Melissa gone cause point blank they're a manipulative asshole.

>>7873200
I take back what I said. I was looking through old secrets posts because I am bored and people have been discussing him for the past two years. He is a he. Someone who personally knows him said he is a he. Apparently the same people who call others transphobic are the same ones that decided to call him a transgender.

>>7871656
The girl is smileysquid.
Pretty sure that dress is handmade. She graduated from fashion design school and makes a lot of her own clothing because she's so short/petite.

>>7873232
And he clearly took advantage of that. Great.

I think Melissa should be kicked out. I'm across the globe and not in this comm but it's clear many comm members are uncomfortable with having him around.
It does seem he's wearing Lolita and going to meets to live out fantasies and for sexual gratification, such fetishists shouldn't be welcome.
I have nothing against trans people and Brolita's who are genuinely in this fashion for the same reasons as we are.
But Melissa is neither trans or a genuine Brolita, he's a sissy boy fetishist.
Even if you forget about Melissa's reason of being into Lolita, he still harassed fellow comm members and openly threatened them with violence.
That alone should be enough reason to kick someone out of a comm.

>>7873671
jesus christ. has anyone he's threatened tried to take legal action against him or at least alerted the parents of the girls he's manipulating? if anyone pulled shit like this on me or my comm, I wouldn't give a shit about being pc or whatever reason they're letting him stay, I'd kick him out and get a restraining order.

>>7873103
What will this petition do if its not brought to the attention of the SF comm as whole? As in admins and stuff, how can it be enforced by the comm?

what styles of glasses are suitable for lolita and casual-wear? i was thinking maybe cat eye since it suits my face or pic related.

>>7873699

I these are fine. What's more important is the frame suiting the shape of your face and eyes.
The frame itself is quite low key, as long as you don't go with huge black hipster frames you'll look fine.
If you're able to wear contacts you can also try that as well. I myself wear glasses as the only contacts I can wear are hard ones and they hurt my eyes so much it becomes unbearable.
Comfort is also important.

>>7873699
For the love of god, don't get neon green frames

I honestly don't know what I was thinking

Any pic of Melissa?

>>7873755
brah

>>7873761

Some were posted in other threads.
>>7863417
>>7873494

>>7873002
As a trans person my view on this is please do not call him female pronouns. He is not trans and you cannot be trans just by "identifying" as a gender.

How long does it normally take IW to respond to 'normal' reservations i.e. not super popular print ones, but like a simple JSK? I haven't even gotten a confirmation e-mail and I'm starting to worry if something is wrong.
>pls respond

I'm a bit confused about the Krad Lanrete taobao store. It seems like the Lost In Sea JSK/OP are in stock? If so, why do I continuously see people mentioning how much they want the dress as if it is sold out?

>>7873103
you have no right to say " If Melissa says she is trans then it is not appropriate for you to comment on this". Fuck you, I'm trans and I will stand up to this shit. Actual trans people who have to live their live struggling deserve your sympathy and support not goddamn fetishists.

>>7873786

Even if you're not reserving a popular item it's the same people (or one person?) working the international orders, so unfortunately if you order during a time when they're sorting out a popular release or holding a sale, they can take a while to get back to you.

(my record was half a week under a month for trying to reserve something during a sale period. The shortest was just a couple of days. )

>>7873788

Only certain colours/sizes are in stock. I guess all the seagulls crying about it wanted the a different colour/length/size.

>>7873792
Aw shit. Hopefully it won't take another couple of weeks.

>>7873764
I know

So I've been away from the scene for quite a while... first time on /cgl/ in ages! are super long underskirts a thing now? It looks a bit strange when the dress itself is so much shorter than the underskirt, but I guess people dont mind (?)

>>7873103
This really upsets me. Physical violence is never okay or should not be tolerated. Just because they have never actually hit anyone does not justify them still being in the community.

I posted it on the Facebook group. A few anonymous people voiced their fear of being outcasted due to discrimination, and since I'm not very active in the community (not by choice but work schedule conflicts) and I'm okay being a lone lolita, I don't have much to lose if this backfires on me. I hope I was able to clear some doubt lolitas had by going public and forward with it.

>>7873963
Long dresses overall are a thing, underskirts are for trying to make shorter stuff tea length. Yes it is annoying when it doesnt blend well and so most examples are criticized here.

>>7873970
I'll be honest and tell you that your efforts, while valiant and well written, may fall short and Melissa will still be allowed in the community. SF is way too lenient and nobody wants to hold any responsibility, even the so called "admins." Honestly, the only way you'll see any change is if someone makes a brand new community and weeds out creeps like Melissa and Phil and actually LISTEN to the comm when they're distressed

>>7874053
yeah looking at the comments that's the direction it's heading to.

Melissa isn't "dangerous" he's just misunderstood!!

>>7873305
Thanks.

All right. Which of you bitches snatched up the high waisted jsks for cream cookie on the us site? I ended up settling for the regular jsk, but I hope it's worth it vs. waiting for the high waisted jsk to come up second hand.

>>7874279
Wow holy fuck just kidding. It was an error on AP's part. Gooooood blesssssss

>>7872995

Thank you. I'm a Brolita in the Bay Area and Melissa scares the shit out of me in going to a meet someday.

>>7874279
Everything sold out for CC in minutes! My cart crapped out at me last minute and couldn't get anything.

>>7874053

thing is, Phil isn't a creep.

Freaking out hardcore and I hope you seagulls can help.

About 3+ months ago I ordered two pairs of shoes from Dear Lenore. After about 2 months of waiting and never receiving any word from them OR the shoes, I contacted them for a full refund. Some new customer service representative contacted me pretty quickly and said I'll get a refund on the 28th of September.

The refund didn't come on the 28th, so I filed a PayPal claim. After a few days and no response to the PayPal claim, I escalated it to a dispute. They have until the 13th of October (today) to respond to the dispute, according to PayPal.

I looked online to see what happens if the seller doesn't respond. Apparently PayPal sides with the buyer immediately, BUT if the seller doesn't have funds in their account it's apparently possible that I don't get my fucking money back...?

I'm so fucking livid. Based on Dear Lenore's shit history and shit customer service I'm super nervous I won't get my money. I'm going to wait it out until tomorrow to see what happened. Do you guys have any advice?

>>7874448
You can also go through your bank

>>7873155
Ugh that one guy adria or something that goes inbetween the ATL comm and the CFL comm.
I cant stand him and hes such a cluster fuck.

>>7874477
I think I know who your talking about.
He was posted on btb number 63 or something.
He always looks like a hot mess,and I hope his ass don't show up for the Disney lolita day event.

>>7873970
Thank you soo much for posting this. It's hard to believe the SF comm has been fighting this for over 3 years....

>>7874373
He lost his doctrate license in podiatry because 2 patients filled restraining orders, and he harassd staff a baby(even going so far as to loiter around the store after they told him he could no longer do so, grabbed an employees foot after being told no, asking for personal information out of a underage customer he just met in the store, and telling employees they were wrong about something mid sale, and generally making everyone feel uncomfortable by loitering, forcing gifts, and not complying after being asked very politely to no longer do certain things)

>>7874448

If they don't have the funds in their account Paypal will give them a negative balance. Quite sure you'll be refunded.

Does anyone know how long on average it takes btssb to confirm a payment via mail order?
I'm getting just a little anxious since I paid on Friday and the money still hasn't left my bank, yet is deemed as completed on paypal.

>first time buying from btssb japan

>>7874477
Andrea?

>>7874072
Post snaps? I honestly can't believe that

I ordered pic related in the exact same colorway a month ago. I just received it today and it's the wrong colorway. I got the brown color(I don't remember there even being a brown one, but I have a bad memory so I can't say for sure)

Is there anything I can do to have it exchanged or am I stuck with the one I got?

>>7874072
Then respond with "iregardless inappropriate behaviour should not be tolerated, especially from someone who is an adult and should be setting examples of how to act and react."

>>7874651
>iregardless
I agree with what you're saying but c'mon.

>>7874594
Maybe I just haven't interacted with him enough but Phil seems like a bit less if a threat than Melissa. Or maybe I just view somewhat self entitled "nice guys" as less of a threat as openly practicing fetishists with an anger problem. Who knows.

>>7874650

Email them. IW's not Bodyline, if they messed up they'll replace the item. You will have to ship your dress back to them, although if I remember right I think they reimburse your shipping fee as well as ship you the correct dress for free.

It's a good idea to doublecheck both your order and lolibrary to make sure you're right though -- a friend of mine thought she received the wrong colourway, she ordered navy and got black. But then she rechecked the site and realised her dress wasn't black, it's actually really dark blue. IW's stock photos just don't seem true to colour ever, so it's possible the dress you received is the right one.

>>7874668
The guy has two fucking restraining orders.

>>7874651
>irregardless
No, anon. Please.

Has anyone ordered Haenuli's Whipped Cream Kitty Kitty? Which colorways did you get?

Has anyone got their invoice for lucky packs yet?

>>7874718
Is that even a word? It sounds so redundant to me

Has anyone received an invoice for their IW oddment pack yet?

>>7874735
It's not a word. "Regardless" is the correct word.

>>7874735
It's not. I only know "irregardless" as a joke from Mean Girls, I had no idea people were actually using it seriously. This is almost worse than the constant misuse of "literally".
>inb4 language evolves

>>7874717
Just ingore anon just just said they enable "nice guys".

>>7874735

>>7874364
I feel so fucking ill

I have a bit more respect for Tiferet(sp?) for posting on the subject of melissa in the thread. The admin basically believes "if you weren't a direct part in any situation involving Melissa I can't really ban him" Which is ridiculous, even if the girls involved in the jpop summit incident say their piece as they were directly involved it still won't change anything and theyre being brave about fully coming forward about it. And as I suspected the petition is being brushed off, i'm sure many other SF girls don't feel brave enough to come forward on that thread but we tried.

Could anyone recommend an offbrand/taobao lolita bolero or cardigan in brown? I've tried taobao and mbok but haven't had much luck so far.

>>7874860
Look on Y!J under Axes Femme

>>7874860
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=19153807214

My dream dress is up for sale, but now I'm worried about the fit. My waist is 23in and the dress is 29in, without shirring or lacing. Can anyone who owns it give me some advice?

>>7874620
Yes him.

>>7874620
Okay so is it a woman?
Or is it a sissy thing.
I mean I've meet it when it came to the disney meet but I can say I avoid all meetups with this person because they are creepy as hell.

I also avoid meetups with that fur fag thats in our comm.

>>7875155
I don't own the dress (sorry!) but honestly, if the price isn't outrageous, and it is your dream dress, I think you should just go for it. If it's really too big, you can get it taken it.

>>7875155
It'll be extremely baggy on you. I had to sell the op and get the jsk instead because of how large it was on me, and I'm nowhere as small as you are.

If it's something you REALLY desperately want, get it and get it taken in by a professional alteration place.

>>7875155
If it's a dream piece, it's worth altering.

>>7875155
Oh wow, I never realized the waist on this OP was so huge, wtf AATP? I was eying it as well but so much for that...

>>7875214
He's fugly but the coord is actually adorable. Cover the face and this is hella cute.

>>7874873
omg not the anon but these are so cute thank you for sharing

>>7875214
this is so creepy

>>7871631
Air increases in price significantly based on volume or weight. The packaging might be large in volume to accommodate the dress, but also wool dresses are much heavier than you would expect. If I were to ship a wool item I'd expect to be paying $30-40 for air shipping. It isn't as outrageous as it seems.

How're Meta's shoes for someone with a rather high arch? I've been eyeing the wood sole shoes they have on the site but I don't want to drop $115 on them to discover later that they're too flat for my feet to fit in.

I've bought some Bodyline RHS last christmas and they've been sitting on my closet since then. I made a mistake and ordered them in size 22 instead of 22.5 and they are too tight on the front, squeezing my toes and cutting circulation.

Is there anyway I can make them a bit larger? I asked a shoemaker to do it and he made them longer, but not wider.

I was wondering.
What are people's general waist/hip size?
Starting to draft/edit a pattern for bloomers and would like to get a feel for a good middle ground.
I would use my own measurements (30W39H), but... eeehhhh?

>>7876112
dont get metamorphose shoes they suck

>>7875214
Given that that's a real coord, might there just be a chance that they are an older brolita?
Not all older brolitas are sissies, but I don't have a clue who this person is so maybe I'm wrong.

Either way I'm scared of a sissy witchhunt, as an innocent older brolita with no related fetishes.

>>7876131
Fill up bags of water and shove them in the toe, enough to fill it. You should probably double or triple bag it to be safe. Then, throw it in the freezer. The water expansion as it freezes can sometimes stretch the shoe out a bit, and seeing as they're only a half a size too small, it might be just enough.

>>7876205
Thanks, I'll try it.

Now, to find space on the freezer for a pair of boots!

>>7876171
Are they that bad? I've only found one girl saying her Metamorphose boots broke, but it was repairable.

>>7876176
That's Andrea. A mtf post-op (as far as I know , she has fake tits at least). She may be a sissy however is smarter than Melissa in the fact that I've never seen any 'likes' on her FB for any of those comms or interests. She does have problems and is extremely controlling and narcissistic (she has admitted these things herself as problems). I've never felt uncomfortable in social situations with her so she's at least much better at social awareness and behavior than people like Melissa and I've never seen any threats of harm to anyone else in the comm made public on her fb. But back to the controlling aspect: she basically flipped out when she was removed as a mod of the atl comm and was seen screaming into her cell phone to the temp mod that was elected during the transition between leadership. She was at another state's meet (either FL or maybe somewhere up North?) and her freakout made a lot of the girls uncomfortable who witnessed the phone call. But no, she's basically just someone who wants to have her fingers in everything and gets mad when any power is taken from her. Which isnt a super uncommon character flaw. The only thing I really don't like about her and this is just me being a bitch, is she is one of those people who doesn't swallow her spit when she talks and you can hear it in her mouth and it kind of gathers in the corners of her lips and it grosses me the fuck out. But that's the reaction I have to anyone that does that lol

So I ordered something from a girl who is a rather popular seller/designer of headdresses. Her sales page said she usually finishes an item in much less than two weeks. I waited two weeks and didn't hear anything. So I messages her. "I'll send you photos tomorrow". I wait another week and email her again. No response in over 24 hours. Fuck.

>>7876258
SweetMildred?

>>7876166
I'm 22w 30h

I'm also a beanpole though.

>>7876267
No. But, maybe I should have gone with her.
Her response times any better?

>>7876166
28W36H I'm 5'6 and I'm usually a medium in American sizing so.

>>7876273
In my experience within a day of asking, and her work is good.

>>7876166
28w39h

Ahh got my two Strahov Library Ribbon JSKs today, IW sent out my package with accessories today and I got my invoices for my lucky packs. Innocent world are slowly taking over my closet. But I'm happy.

>>7876166
24" waist
33" hips
5'1"

>>7876322
same

>>7876166
24" waist
34" hips

The biggest problem I have with bloomers is that the crotch isn't long enough because of my long torso.. I prefer wearing the band around my waist comfortably.

not really relevant to anything
But I left the lolita scene for a few years and just now getting back into it.
When I left taobao was still kind of emerging a bit, and there was some good stuff but nothing great.
Browsing lolibrary
and jfc where was this offbrand gold a few years ago.

sorry I just had to rant somewhere.

>>7876166
right now
>24.5"-25" waist
>35-35.5" hips
though it depends on how fat/skinny/skinny fat I am
ex:
>23.5" waist->33.5" hips
>24" waist ->34-35" hips
>26" waist->33.5"-34.5" hips

You should be ok, especially since bloomers are elastic. Most people have a 9"+ difference

>>7875277
agreed. maybe he should stop smiling so harshly? a calm cute smile would probably look better then what he's doing now

>>7875214
Andrea from the ATL comm loooool
Had the displeasure of meeting them once. They fit all the stereotypical diva archtypes. Control freak, self obsessed, and uses their attitude in place of a petti to keep their skirts fluffed.
Also a poor organizer, flaky, refuses to admit to screwing things up..
AWA, some of the other staff running the fashion show wouldn't even speak to him because of how he acted. Even the models that weren't from the comm noticed how bad it was.

>>7876166
>27w40h...

>>7876268 >>7876278 >>7876322 >>7876441 >>7876461 >>7876490 >>7876540

Thank you guys! This helps :)
>5ft
>feels a little over weight now, hhaha

>>7875214
Yeah the problems with Andrea are not related to her gender presentation or any "creepy" vibes in the same way as Melissa etc. Andrea is just really bitchy and domineering in the same way that any other cisgendered female "queen bee" personality can be. Her face is unfortunate but she coords well enough and if there's any fetish stuff than she's hiding it appropriately (I have no problem with lolitas doing whatever in the bedroom, I am into some kinks myself, but it should be kept private if so)

>>7876166
24w 38h 5'3" but I tend to size up and just take shit in.

>>7876592
I have news for you. You're more than a *little* overweight.

>>7876592
>28 w, >38 h >5'8

Is mintymix still in business? She hasn't updated her stock in a year, but she made a recent update on her website about shipping. I email and email for stock but no one responds..

>>7876592
> 5'1
> 25" w
> 38" h

>>7876208
DO NOT DO THIS. Unless it's real leather, you're running the risk of cracking the surface of the boots. Best case scenario: no stretch. Worse case scenario: you've ruined your shoes.

This trick only works on real leather because it has some stretch. The PU used as a leather replacement will not respond the same way. Just sell them and get the size you need.

>>7876592
27w43h

>>7876845
Also interested in this, Kammie is always in Japan and shit so Idk if she even runs her store anymore

Can someone help me with a lost package issue?

I bought a dress from LM at the beginning of September. At first I thought I was paying for express and signature confirmation, but turns out it was just PP fees - whatever. It was a dream dress and I was willing to pay whatever for it

Two weeks later I decided to check the tracking code. It said it was delivered a week ago. Wtf? I asked around my neighbors and the maintenance guys that worked around my apartment. No package

I filed a dispute but lost a month later since the tracking said delivered. I asked PayPal if they could please help me with the unresponsive seller because I couldn't file the package as lost to USPS - only the seller could.

Well it's been about two weeks and the seller is still ignoring me. I'm out of $600... I did pay with a credit card but I don't know what good it will do when PayPal told me I was shit out of luck because the tracking said it was delivered.

>>7876913
Contact your credit card company. Seriously, they will help you out with this

I'd like to know if there are any dead giveaways that a Chess Chocolate JSK is a replica?

>>7876606
>>7876534
>>7876256
>>7876176
This is Andrea from ATL comm. She is a woman, and isn't any type of sissy or age player. The drama surrounding her is mostly attitude stuff, not her creeping anyone out. She co-ords pretty well.

The only other person in Atl with gender issues is Collin/Colleen. I think they are trying to be a boy now. I'm not sure. She/he is a creep anyways.
Can't think of anyone else, and idk any furries in Atl.

>>7876974
Seconding this, and wanting to know how you can tell which is a replica/ real for:
>DDC tiered
>CDC tiered
>Sugary Carnival
>Puppet Circus
>Vampire Requiem

I know that for Twinkle Journey OP, the over skirt is centered in the replica, while it is off to the side on the real dress!

>>7877151
>Collin/Colleen

Does anyone have pictures of this person? I keep hearing about them.

>>7877159
Ask to see tags, ask to see the lace, close ups on the print.

Usually I don't even need to look at the details because 9/10 replicas sold are two or three times the size of the real thing and it's obvious because of the size.

As far as I know oojia hasn't done DDC or CDC yet though she apparently took deposits on DDC according to some post in rufflechat on fb.

Most of the PC replicas have fringe instead of pom pom lace and the chest bows are horribly deflated and look way too big compared to the original.

>>7877182
>Most of the PC replicas have fringe instead of pom pom lace
Personally, I prefer them for this. Been highly tempted to get a replica just for that, if only oojia wasn't shit at drafting a bodice...

>>7877159
Well, the colors are usually off in the Vampire Requiem replicas.I know in the black colorway it's especially noticible on the gates. The gates on the real one are a silvery grey and have some blended shading of purple on them and the replicas it looks more like a flat grey and the purple isn't as well blended/shaded. (I hope that makes sense?)
Replicas sometimes use shitty shiny ribbon instead of the more matte grossgrain ribbon too.
There are lots of reviews on VR replicas.

>>7877182
>oojia hasn't done DDC

Oh, to be the bearer of bad news
http://www.lacemarket.us/replica-lavender-day-dream-carnival-tiered-jsk/

It does meet your "too big" sign, though.

>>7877259
Ugh, it looks so bad and cheap. The hip veil is the most telling to me other than size. It's super shiny and crinkly and the real one is much more light and sheer. Also can't really tell but it looks like the stars in the print aren't metallic like the real print.

Beginner here and I'm in dire need of accessories. A lot of tutorials and guides give a good idea on how many main pieces/blouses/footwear you should have but idk none of them go in depth with accessories aside from being like "you wanna have like a headbow". I'm just wondering what do you think are accessory staples? So far I have one bracelet, two rings, and six headpieces (two bows, two flower crowns, and two berets) . I'm finding it sooo hard to put together coords with what I currently have. I know I want more jewelry, but it's like... What kind of jewelry is good while still being versatile? Help?

>>7877312
It depends a lot on your style, anon. I know you're probably trying to work that out since you're still a beginner which is totally okay, if you give us some ideas of main pieces you have in your wardrobe we can maybe help you out from there!

Ok. Picture this. 44 bust. 47 waist and 49 inch hips. Wants to get into gothic lolita. This is not me. This is someone I am helping find appropriate clothing. Please can someone help? I am not sure what is going to suit her if her stomach is larger than her bust. I was thinking a babydoll dress in this case? But it might make her look pregnant... All Ive done so far is link her to the plus sized sales comm. She's friends with the girl who did the "sexy loki" thing and I want to save her from becoming that train wreck.

And please do not tell me she is a fatass that needs to lose weight, I agree but it won't help me make a good plus sized lolita out of her.

>>7877151
Like, a trans woman or a completely cisgendered, born biologically woman? I always thought Andrew was born with male parts from photos.

>>7877349
Wow meant to type Andrea*
What a typo.

>>7877312

What I read from your post:
> you already have a wardrobe of some size, including some accessories
>You find it difficult to actually put together coords
>you *think* you need accessories to make coords

Lolita's not the kind of fashion that you can solve by buying random crap according to some made-up quota. It's not the number of items you have, everything you buy needs to be able to match other things you buy in order to make a coord.

Your best way forward is to make a collage of items you already have, and post it to the coord help thread. Ask for help in putting together outfits, ask for anons to suggest missing pieces that would make your wardrobe more versatile. Then , based on those suggestions, go out and buy stuff. Don't just buy random things because anons who have never seen your wardrobe say it's versatile.

>>7877349
>>7877361
Trans woman, you're not wrong

>>7877312
First of all it depends on what style you wear. For classic and gothic it's fairly easy, because you can find things in normalfag stores.

You need to look at the clothes you have, and see what works with those. We can't tell you what jewelry and head pieces to buy if we don't know what you wear.

>>7877312
As other anons have said, it's not so much about quantity as it is versatility, and really accessories are one of the worst ways to add versatility. They're the icing on the metaphorical cake, adds some depth and changes the flavour a bit, but a shit cake is still a shit cake and if you only know how to make vanilla cake you're going to eat vanilla cake forever.

Please do share what you have, seagulls can be very helpful and personally I love helping people with their wardrobes!

>>7877336
She'll look like a blimp in a babydoll cut. I'd definitely go for a normal waist, then get some bulk in accessories or something like that for the top. In the ita thread, there's a picture of a girl who literally looks like a snowman, and that should be a cue for what to avoid.
If she can sew, you should get her to make a really simple jsk, and you can help design so it doesn't look ita, so you can insure that it will be a full enough skirt to compensate for the waist. I think the main problem with most plus-size lolitas is that the sillouette goes to hell. If you can use your body fat for a petti, something is wrong.
Just some suggestions. I hope everything goes well!

>>7877336
She's too big to be a good plus size Lolita.

Stick her in darks. A baby doll will look like a moomoo. She'll have to get everything custom made.

>>7877336
I'm sorry but I don't think that bodyshape will work with lolita in any way

>>7877336
Shapewear. Really good shapewear. Tell her to look at Vedette waist cinchers. It's shame that her stomach is bigger than her waist. Even cupcakeclothes makes it work and I am pretty sure her waist is bigger than 47 inches, but it's smaller than her bust so visually it works out

>>7877706
>stomach is bigger than her waist
It's 3am, sorry, meant to say it's a shame that her stomach is bigger than her bust.

>>7877549
>>7877703
>>7877706
>>7877536

Thanks! I'm quite disappointed in her body shape, but I'm just trying to help her as she posted some very ita things on Facebook. She looks a lot slimmer in her pictures, is either using waaay old ones or flattering angles.

>>7877846
Maybe you can help her realize that it's better to put the money in healthier food, instead of wasting it on clothing that won't suit her?

>>7874668
Did you miss the whole "foot fetishist who makes grabs at girl's feet and has restraining orders against him" thing? Phil is an openly practicing fetishist, too.

>>7876166
>26W40H
Maybe you could do different sizes, not just S/M/L but like Levi's Curve ID? All I know is that finding bloomers that fit me is a pain in the ass and I'd appreciate more options. I've tried making a pair myself but I have two left hands.

>>7877151

i left ATL a while ago, all i know about is some drama with her and her gf in the comm but what's been going on since then? i thought she was just a cosplayer

>>7877174

her tumblr is driaumbra. also lol tried to pass off her PC replica as the real deal

>>7877336

I'll be honest here and what I'm saying is not meant malicious.
She should forget about wearing Lolita. She should wear what flatters her shape and unfortunately Lolita is not going to look flattering.
What's most important in Lolita is the shape, and because she has such a large belly she will never have the right proportions.
Waist needs to be smaller than the bust and hips, even when plus sized.
She could try a corset but I doubt it will do enough. No matter what shape she'll try, be it A-line, cupcake or babydoll it will look off and she will also look even larger wearing a petticoat.
It's nice that you are trying to help this girl, but some people are lost causes.

>>7877893
Not sure if I should envy or pity

I have a hard enough tom with just a 10.5" difference. Especially with my thighs.

>>7877336
Your best bet is to commission a seamstress. It's the best way to make sure she gets clothes that fit properly and maintain the silhouette without making her look out of proportion. The biggest issue with plus size lolita is the fit, especially around the waist, because the gathered fabric there doesn't drape right if the dress is too small. It doesn't matter what size you are, an ill-fitting dress is going to look awful no matter what. Fit is key, it will make or break the outfit. I've seen good coords fail utterly because the skirt/JSK/dress just didn't fit the girl wearing it.
Go for tights, not socks of any sort. They'll be more flattering. I'd use short sleeve blouses and wrist cuffs to elongate the arm, but make sure the sleeves don't dig into her skin. I'd go for a natural wig, no giant volume or twin tails, and a beret or flower crown instead of a head-eating bow to help balance the sillouhette.
No waist less or high-waisted dresses. She needs something to balance out her figure.

>>7877336
>waist 3 inches bigger than bust
oh, no...

>>7877336
Ok, might get eaten alive for replying but I have those same measurements and am (surprisingly) able to make gothic and classic coordinates work. I've been into the fashion for a long time, though... so I'd like to think I have a seasoned eye for finding flattering plus size pieces.

Depending on her body type, she needs to find out if she looks better in separates or dresses. While I do own a few jsks, separates work best for me (especially high waist skirts with boning, to take my waist in a bit). Custom sizing or alterations are pretty much her only options unless she finds something secondhand in the plus size comm. Introduce her to Lady Sloth, I'm not a big fan of their dresses but they make really nice custom size blouses and decent skirts.

Shapewear is a must, Spanx and control top tights go a long way. A good bra is another essential item. Although my waist is larger than my bust, with the right hi-lift bra and some spanx I can usually create the illusion that my waist is smaller than it is. Torrid sells great plus size bras, just make sure she gets the right size.

I don't recommend blouses with buttons, at all. Boleros are a nice way to look polished and hide upper body flaws. Sometimes I incorporate waist belts into my outfit to create the illusion of a smaller waist. Wear tights instead of socks, they're much more slimming. For hair and makeup, have her research how to do face contouring, and find hairstyles with face-framing layers to appear smaller. I hope these tips help!

(inb4 shut up lazy landwhale)
Yes, I know these measurements are not healthy but I figured I could at least provide tips from personal experience. I know losing weight will do her (and myself) very well in the long run. I get it. It's not easy to dress well in lolita at this size but I just wanted to show it's possible if people are willing to put in a little work.

I want to bid on crap from yahoo! japan auctions, but I'm not sure if I need a SS or not. Should I use a SS (like noppin or w/e) or can I just use my own account using the "Buyee" function? I'm super new, I'm sorry

>>7878037
You can use buyee, but their fees are generally higher. I love them though, so easy to use.

>>7874739
Not yet. I'm expecting to get it tonight or tomorrow. They were closed on one of their usual international order days this week.

>>7871991

Forget the boots, is that dress for sale yet?

>>7877847
This isn't helpful to her specific situation. I think it's clear that the girl wont be losing weight anytime soon. Being a bitch to her will go nowhere Also, healthy food is cheap, so what you said doesnt even make sense

>>7877903
The latest thing was after she moved to TX, she still came back to AWA and stalker her ex. The story was in one of the comm bitching threads.
She had her fiancée dressed up exactly like her ex, apparently down to the hair color. Also, she had her gf carrying a cane/scepter... her ex uses a cane to walk. I can see if I can find the post.

>>7878294
>>7877174
>>7877151
Here is a picture of her and her current fiancée. I got it from their cosplay page, Umbra Cosplay. Colleen has dark hair. Stevie is a copy of Colleen's ex in this picture. She gets posted to ita threads now and again.

Her ex is Holly; do you know her?

>>7877182
>>7877214
>>7877215
>>7877259

Thank you so much, based anons! I'm buttmad over DDC and CDC replicas for different reasons.
>DDC had a release where everyone and their brother could have bought it. Heck, people could have bought 2 and altered it!
>CDC (especially in Navy/Blue) is so rare to see in person.
I get really excited when I see rare, genuine prints. Exclusivity is a big deal in Lolita, and replicas mess it up.

On a related note, have any of you that own the real versions of one of these rare dresses get accused of wearing replicas? It happens to me all the time in one specific dress- I think because people are used to seeing the replica and rarely see a real version. I was wondering if anyone else had this issue.

A friend wants to get into kodona style just asked which brands and stores she should check out when she visits japan next week, and I'm sitting here completely drawing a blank.

Could you guys send good brands that sells kodona related clothes?

>>7877336
I'm in your comm. I'd be glad to help out, too. I give basic advice, since I'm still learning. I want to be a top-tier Lolita, too. Maybe point her to some girls in the comm (doesn't matter their size) who dress well and who would be nice enough to be an older-sister type figure. I think maybe that if she has someone whom she looks up to (co-ord wise), she might be willing to take body-flattering advice from them.

I think most of our best dressers are also nice.

>>7878304
>dropped pic

Stevie is actually pretty cute. Shame she's so manipulative, though.

>>7878312
Replicas don't make the original go away. P sure both of those dresses still hold their value, regardless of replicas. Don't worry about it.

>>7877151
>She is a woman, and isn't any type of sissy or age player

She was a sissy and is still an age player. She was born male but she doesn't pass in the least so it's not a secret.

>>7877903
The posts were here:
>>7875554
>>7874534
I remember the PC thing. It was great because some people were wearing the real version there.
I also remember at Frill during the hair panel, she was using Holly as a model. Holly was keeping the panel interesting by cracking some jokes and explaining shit since Colleen used technical beauty school terms because she was a ~*Hair and Make-Up Fashion Designer~*. Apparently hair is srs business u guyz because she told Holly to shut up and put her chair facing a corner so she couldn't interact with the audience. I cringed so hard, and then left because it became boring.

>Should this stuff go in the comm bitching area?
>Does anyone know what happened to Holly? I don't know what her reputation is, even.

>>7877335
>>7877478
>>7877521
>>7877530
Thanks for the replies! I guess it makes sense that I should go for more quality than quantity. Here's a collage of what I own minus socks and accessories (and a replica I'm too ashamed to wear). I gravitate towards red for accessories since it matches pretty much everything I have, but I don't want to be a one-note-lita and just coord with red alll the time. I was just wondering if there was like a rule of thumb.

I was reluctant to post a collage because I didn't wanna seem super lazy and be like "guys make my outfits". Maybe my lack of accessories isn't as much of a problem as a lack of blouses/legwear is? Or my incoherent style? Or just my lack of creativity lol.

>>7878353
>Does anyone know what happened to Holly? I don't know what her reputation is, even.

She doesn't really have a reputation. Colleen was the one who acted a fool when they broke up. She is a massive flake though and can be really obnoxious talking about her medical problems. A bit of a special snowflake but nothing worthy of true drama.

>>7878374
I don't think she can really help the medical problems. She is pretty sick, and really is in the hospital a lot. I know that she doesn't like talking about the med issues, but kind of has to in case something happens in public. (Once we had to call an ambulance for her, and nobody knew what to do because she hadn't informed people beyond "rare disease".)
Actually, she is really good about shutting up if you tell her to on the medical stuff. It can get obnoxious.
She's actually pretty kind, and will let people borrow her dresses.

Honestly, I know she's insecure. She really is one of those people who genuinely wants to be friends with everyone, and I think she gets a bad rap for that. Next time she's annoying, tell her and she'll try to change to suit you.

I never really thought she was snowflakey except where she had to be (kidney failure or something). Her co-ords have improved., though

>>7878356
Maybe a pearl necklace or choker, and a gold-tone brooch? If you wanted to coord the Elegy skirt and the red Chess Story jsk in a more classical direction you could get a pair of dark-colored boots.

how does one pick shades of color for accesories in lolita? For example bright red versus a more maroon color. I love my bright red tea parties but I want to get a more mature color for other coords... Not sure how to justify how many pairs of shoes I have. I have 4 pairs of lolita shoes already plus a loliable pair and a pair of ugly heels I plan on selling. Up until this year I had three pairs of shoes, and none were pretty at all.

>>7876166
26w, 41h

So this is from lolita sales uk

>>7878434
I like to make collages of my current main pieces to help me find common colors and designs, and then figure out what would work best for the most pieces.
But for shoes, I stick to neutrals: white, brown, black. I also have a gold pair of tea parties, which are still pretty neutral but just feel more fancy. If Bodyline ever restocks I'll probably buy a silver pair too.

>>7878042
thanks, anon! I'll check around, then

>>7872687
Tense, because they have discounted shipping when you buy from rakuten.

>>7877989
Thank you anon <3

Can anyone recommend a pair of black heels that will be versatile in all styles? I currently own bodyline shoes192 in black. I don't think they will work very well with gothic or classic... Are they ok to go with gothic for the time being or completely inappropriate?

>>7878845
There are tons of versatile black heels from various sellers on taobao, that's where I get all my shoes from.

And actually I don't think those are completely inappropriate for gothic or classic, if you need to use them they would work

Can anyone suggest a good taobao reseller? (apart from aliexpress)
Looking to see if i can snag the new precious clove print dress without having to do a full taobao order for just one dress.

>>7878909
my-lolita-dress might have it

but they don't let you use SAL to ship, so it might be cheaper to buy it via a shopping service that doesnt have a minimum order requirement, depending on how much my-lolita-dress is charging for it

>>7878904
You do not? We are talking about the ones with hearts on the sides, right? I think for gothic they may be alright but classic I consider to be elegant and clunky heels don't work with that.

I have a hard time deciding whether I want the Altelier Boz cape or not.
I really like it, but I don't like the price. I just don't know if it's worth spending close to $250 for a cape. What do you think?

>>7878983
Not worth it, they are easy to make.

>>7878940
If she's in a pinch I think they would be okay. But now that you mention it, maybe not for classic... gothic, yea.

>>7878356
I'm going to get a biiiiig response to you alter today but quick question, is the white Chess Story piece a long sleeved OP or a JSK shown over a blouse?

>>7871061
Ooh, I was actually thinking about it, anon. Are you still there?

>>7879023
Not her but def looks like a jsk to me, the sleeves are pink.

>>7878325
Is that Lauren Severe on the right?

>>7878161
It's sold out, I think, it went up months ago.

Can I do gothic hairstyle with dark brown curly hair? Please advise how I could do this!

>>7879086
elegant up-do's and other such hairstyles you see done with gothic? i really don't see how it being brown and curly/straight has anything to do with anything. it's just hair afterall. Come back with pastel pink hair and you might have a problem

>>7879086
Absolutely. I feel like gothic is nearly always better with natural hair colours. Though there are examples of dyed hair/unnatural wigs that look nice.

I feel like your hairstyle depends on your accessories, though. What do you have to work with/what kinds of headgear do you like best?

>>7879023
>>7879037
It might've been more effective for me to split the pictures. It was a release they did that came with a JSK and OP together. The white dress on top is the JSK and the OP is the pink you see underneath. Here's what it looks like sans JSK.

>>7876166
26W, 37H

>>7878356

Okay, you've got a small but very diverse wardrobe, I think that's making it hard to match things together. I can see most of the items working out with just one or two coords with the other items.

>one-note-lita

Being slightly one-note lita actually makes it easier to have a small but easy-to-coord wardrobe, because if you wardrobe only had a few colours, eg white and red, and a single theme (eg roses) you'll be able to match everything to everything else.

With regards to jewellery, the one that comes to mine is white pearls. It would pop on the red bolero, red dress and brown blouse, it would match the lighter coords (whip showcase and the white Chess Story dress). So, pearl necklaces and maybe a bracelet or two so that your arms don't look so bare. Try to pick necklaces long enough to go under the collars but still look good.

For a second choice, you could consider getting gold accessories with rose themes on them, maybe in red, this would match the red dress, the white Chess Story dress, the cat skirt, and probably whip showcase.

For a more versatile wardrobe, I'd say you could try getting a pair of brown shoes that match the brown blouse, you'd be able to do the brown blouse with the Chess Story dress, or the red dress then.

I don't see any socks or bags in the collage... but then I don't see the flower crowns and berets you mentioned earlier, so I just assumed you have enough to match your dresses.

>>7873775
nice b8.

>>7876913
Oh my god. I am so sorry that happened to you. This sounds absolutely terrible.

>>7876974
With Chess Chocolate look at the bottom lace. On the real one it's gathered lace, on every replica I've seen it's never gathered. Plus AP doesn't use a typical lace for that bottom lace, so if you can see a closeup of the bottom lace and it's not a special lace with AP and crowns embroidered on it, then it's a replica.

Also if there's a waist bow it's very easy to tell. Have yet to see a replica get their waist bows to look as nice and full in the center as AP does. Replicas have skinny center on their bows.

>>7876930
This and whichever company was supposed to do the delivery, they can back you up with knowing that the package never arrived (or they can find out if it was something else).

>>7878983
wearing a cape makes you feel freaking awesome!

>>7876845
>>7876869
She's still around in the US. I believe she's only been to Japan once. But she is also in school. So that is probably why she never answers her emails.

>>7879275
I just chose to omit accessories just so you could look at the base. Thank you so much for your insight! I definitely wanna get a pair of brown shoes next time I make a Taobao order or something of the like. Pearls are pretty easy to find and definitely a good idea! Thanks again.

Not sure if i can ask this here because no craft thread or accessories thread but it's lolita related a bit because i plan to buy gothic lolita items.
I'm a jewellry maker, usually i do kawaii stuff like sweets, fruits, cute animals (i started to do more realistic fruits or sweets following japanese blogs) with polymer clay but i'm unsure how to do more gothic accessories that are less "cute" and more elegant like crosses. Any tutorial/advice about gothic accessories with polymer clay?

>>7877989
You are a credit to your race, seriously.

>>7880266
Honestly, gothic styles rely more on being classy and elegant, so polymer clay isn't really a good material for gothic as it looks, well, less classy than metal accessories. You might be able to make some roses or something.

I lost an auction on my dream dress so I threw a fit and started bidding on a bunch of other dresses. I won one.

I also tried to envision my hyperbole as it is and felt better about myself
>mfw I was willing to spend $700+ on a fucking salopette

>>7879414
But she hasn't ever answered her emails in the past 3 years :/

>>7880337
There was a girl making polyclay gothic stuff on etsy but I can't remember her shop name. (She also made sweet accessories.) Her gothic stuff was mostly clay roses, and I remember she also had books that were really cool. Her clay work was very detailed though.

Going to be /that/ person sorry anons
I ordered from Bodyline (3 seperate orders because no self control) over a week ago and I still haven't got my shipping confirmation/tracking number. Shall I email them about it? Normally I've received it immediately but I guess they are probably inundated with orders atm

>>7870452
I don't want to make a new thread solely for this, but here are some questions for you seagulls:

>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
>Do you have any dream dresses?
>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?

>>7880591
Hell yeah I'll respond to my own questions.

>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
Only for a couple of months, tbh. I'm a huge newbie but I've learned a lot from lurking here, I think.

>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
I like toned down sweet and classic. I love gothic but I don't think I could pull it off.

>Do you have any dream dresses?
RRL JSK or OP in the lavender colorway. I also love Bright Starry Night from Btssb, also in the lavender colorway.

>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
I did get Cosmic, which was a dream dress. But I'm selling it soon.

>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
I'm in a comm, but I haven't gone to any meets yet.

>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?
I just love how elegant it can look and how pretty it can make me and others feel. It's like stepping into another world.

>>7880569
I'd say wait another week. They're probably swamped by orders and there's a storm that stops some mailing from leaving the country.

>>7880591
>>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
Just over 4 years
>>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
I wear both classic and sweet equally
>>Do you have any dream dresses?
Not anymore though I'm kicking myself for missing the JetJ unicorn release recently
>>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
Yes
>>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
I'm a part of the fb group but I don't go to meets
>>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?
Actually what has made me happiest is practicing my makeup skills. I used to never wear makeup but now I feel pretty decent at it and have a nice selection to pick from

So I've made some basic flower crowns to wear casually, but I'd like to get into making more classy/ornate ones for lolita. Are there tutorials out there for more complex pieces to get me started?

>>7880604
what cut/color for cosmic? i may be interested

>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
2-3 Years
>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
Sweet and Classic, Sweet is my favorite but I think my face is too mature
>Do you have any dream dresses?
I own them all now
>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
Yes
>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
I left my comm because of a girl who stalked me. I'm a lone lolita now.
>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?
Getting dressed up and feeling like the baddest bitch

>>7880627
It's the OP in lavender.

>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
Off and on for about 5 years
>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
Classic/gothic
>Do you have any dream dresses?
I have several, but my ultimate dream dress is Scent of Rapunzel
>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
Yes, I finally got Merry Making in the Ghosttown
>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
I've only recently joined a comm, but I live 5 hours from my comm.
>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?
Feeling like a boss ass bitch when dressed up

>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
I think 2 or 3 years; time really blends together for me at times.
>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
I have a sweet wardrobe, but I plan on starting my gothic one soon.
>Do you have any dream dresses?
Not anymore, my dream dress came in Tuesday. What's left are dresses that I think would be nice to have.
>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
Yes.
>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
Loner
>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?
I can't put my finger on it, but the fashion just makes me happy. I think I look really nice in the dresses.

>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
Seven years.
>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
Gothic/classic.
>Do you have any dream dresses?
Yep.
>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
When I do buy a dress, that's usually why, ha.
>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
Pretty much a loner. I live kind of far from the lolitas that I did hang out with.
>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?
The hunt.

>>7880591
I wish you would have made another thread for this. This kind of survey question clogs up the thread and haults discussion and questionss

>>7880485
Bitsweet? I love the designs she has, but I got put off by the fingerprints in some of the closeups.

>>7880266
Have a look at Suppurate System stuff - maybe that will give you ideas? It really depends what sort of goth you're going for - like an opulent victorian look, or a creepy Wednesday Addams-type style, etc.

>>7880591
>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
6-7 years
>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
Overall I prefer classic but I also wear Gothic and Casual from time to time.
>Do you have any dream dresses?
JetJ dragon dress ;_;
>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
Most dresses I currecntly own used to be dream dresses at some point.
>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
I used to be part of a comm but I left because I couldn't connect with anyone and I have more fun wearing lolita around my normalfag friends.
>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?
That it made me discover my feminine side. Before lolita I used to be tomboyish. I only wore pants and ugly parkas 24/7, the less effort it took, the better. I used to be lazy and without any ambitions, not only regarding my appearance. Lolita really helped me getting my shit together and taking care of myself. I now value my feminine self and excursively wear dresses and skirts (I have one pair of pants left for physical work out, but that's it).

I put in an order through Baby SF to special order from Baby Japan and I still haven't been contacted about it being in/me needing to pay the final shipping. They say on the website to allow 4-8 weeks and this is the 8th week since I've ordered. I called 2 weeks ago and they told me it was probably going to come in "soon" with their October order, and my order is still in the system. However, I need this item particularly by the end of the month and I'm also starting to be stressed out over the fact that well, it's been 8 weeks. What should I do from here?

>>7880591
>>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
About a year,
>>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
My wardrobe is currently 90% sweet. My favorite is sweet/classic in darker colors.
>>Do you have any dream dresses?
AATP's Drosselmeyer's Wonder Box Clara JSK in red, and Haenuli's Royal kitten.
>>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
I got the aforementioned AATP dress in the green colorway. I still want the red.
>>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
I'm a lone lolita, but I have friends that are also in the fashion, and we do stuff together wearing lolita, so yes and no.
>>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?
Idk, it makes me feel really cute? I never felt like I was very cute or girly before I started wearing it. It makes me feel pretty.

>>7880591
>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
About 2 years
>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
I like classic the best, but I do own some AP that can be categorized as sweet. I'd like to own a few gothic pieces one day.
>Do you have any dream dresses?
Yeah a few. IW's astronomical clock to name one
>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
So far two this year! Baby's Claudia op (bless rereleases) and ap's royal unicorn.
>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
Kind of, I'm not active though. I'm trying to become more involved
>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?
I dunno. It's really cute and polished. I feel really good when I wear lolita. Even though it's considered expensive to some, I feel like you get a lot for what you pay for. The details are amazing and the prints are unique.

>>7880353
Is your dream dress melty cream donut anon?

>>7880591

>How long have you been wearing the fashion?
6 years
>What subset of the fashion do you wear/which style is your favorite?
Gothic
>Do you have any dream dresses?
Too many, Vr and prelude, D walkure, Ap's gloria, MSND,
>Have you acquired any of your dream dresses?
I bought D walkure skirt, but that only makes me want to get the set..
>Are you part of a comm or are you a loner?
Comm for life.
>What makes you happiest about lolita fashion?
I enjoy the theatrical part of it, and being able to hone skills.

Does Dreamv restock or once an item/size/color is sold out it's gone for good?

>>7881971
usually gone for good, but they also put out different versions of an item multiple times if it's popular. they have certain dresses, coats and boots that I can think of that they'll put out once or twice a year that just have little details changed each year

>>7881971
also if you really need something they sometimes have different stock on their domain name japanese site (not rakuten) but you'd need an SS