/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Sounds exactly like me and I'm warm/yellow. I'm also super pale though, so 'warm' foundations make me look jaundiced and I tend to go for neutral shades instead.

Two questions, pic related for both. I am not as washed out as this makes me look, the lighting here is just really terrible. I'm super pale with pinkish undertones.

1) I have serious problems getting eyeliner to stay on my waterline. It's rather large, and my eyes are pretty sensitive even after a few years of wearing makeup, so they tear up really bad whenever I try to put anything on there.

2) I have massive terrible eyebags. I can usually hide the color of them with concealer (which I'm out of right now), but the puffiness never goes away regardless of how much sleep I've gotten (they're genetic, mother has them too).

Product recommendations for both? I'm making a trip to Sephora soon. My skin is really oily, and I'm prone to acne, so any face cream recommendations need to take that into account. Thanks!

>>7852460
Stop wearing liner on your water line. That's what 14 year old scene kids do.

>>7852469
I feel like it's slightly more necessary for dramatic eyeliner looks? I'd be more than happy to be wrong there, but I need to shape my eyes to look more like pic related. If it's not necessary though then I'll forget it and stick with the liquid I currently have, since I like it.

>>7852469
WTF? First of all, from that pic it doesn't look like anon was wearing eyeliner on her waterline, it's clearly under it on her lash line. Second of all, wearing liner on your waterline is the generally accepted thing to do since it looks weird having that fleshy gap there if you put it below it. If you mean it looks dumb to wear eyeliner on the bottom at all... you really need help

>>7852469
you don't know much about make up

>>7852481
Her question was about eyeliner on her water line. Learn to read...?

>>7852482
I'll admit I'm no beauty guru but if you're putting eyeliner on a place where it's prone to smudging, ya stop putting it there. It looks tons better just under the water line, anyway.

>>7852481
>>7852482
Thanks, and yeah I'm not wearing anything on my waterline in the pic, it's just to show what my waterline looks like. I don't wear eyeliner there normally, because it just sort of comes out in awkward grey tears.

>>7852490
Samefagging but if you really must put eyeliner there and if you're going for a dramatic effect, it looks 1818x better if the eyeliner is a neutral color or even white. With black, dark brown, or gray, it's inevitably going to smudge and look a mess. I used to wear eyeliner like a damn raccoon but realized getting that shit on my contacts wasn't cute.

What do you seaguls use to fill in your brows?

I've been using e.l.f.'s "brightening eyeliner" pencils and the quality has really started going down ($1 make-up big shocker). I fill in my brows daily and I want to make the switch to something new. I prefer wood pencils.

>>7852460
I feel you re:eyeliner concerns, with undereye bags though have you tried any of the classical tricks? (like cool chamomile tea bags, cucumbers, cooled spoons, etc?) Productwise the garnier caffeinated eye roller gets rec'd a lot but I'm not sure if it really works or not
>no links bc I'm on mobile

>>7852507

I've been using the Nyx Push Up Bra pencil and it's been great. I prefer pencils too - gel just gets gross in my brows, but this one has been pretty natural and stays all day (and I have crazy oily skin)

Does anyone also have really wrinkly lids and eyes? I have no idea how to work with them or take care of them, it's also strange since I'm just 20. It feels a bit awkward when I'm putting on eyeshadow/concealer, I always feel like I'm making it worse.

>>7852417
I'm really pale too, so maybe that's why I got the feeling neutral shades fit me better.

http://www.sephora.com/mat-velvet-matifying-foundation-P177117?skuId=988659 I've been looking at this foundation and instead of cool/neutral/warm, they call the undertones pink/beige/yellow. I know yellow = warm and pink = cool, so am I correct if I say beige = neutral?

>>7852622
start using eye cream

>>7852612
>Nyx Push Up Bra pencil

I was looking at nyx's eyebrow pencil, thank you for the suggestion! And I have super oily skin too, so that's good to know.

This might be a long shot but tips on "cosplay" makeup (specifically eyes I guess)? I'm pretty good at normal natural makeup, I can make myself look better and whatnot but when I take pictures in cosplay I feel like nothing "pops". It ends up looking very...bland? Any tips and tricks?

>>7852460
your face its just ugh
like an old ugly woman

>>7852689
this is probably bait but in case it's not, how can you say that when you can practically only see her eye area

>>7852689
Why don't you post your face then lel

>>7852599
I got a sample of some super s'pensive firmer cream from sephora, but I think I'm gonna try the cucumber thing as well. I'm just slightly wary of home-solutions since the eyebags are genetic, although now that I've typed that it seems stupid so maybe I'm just a dumbass.

The lady I talked to there also recommended this marc jacobs gel-pencil-thing (it twists up, I don't know what to call it), so I'll do some tests with it and see how it goes. Worst case I've just gotten a gel liner.

>>7852702

What type of make-up I need for make my lips bigger?

>>7852740
genetics

>>7852460
Your bags dont look like eyebags, they look like festoons/malar bags.

Festoons/malar bags never go away on their own if its genetic. Unfortunately, they get worse with age. The only chance you have to get rid of them is to go through cosmetic surgery but there is no guarantee surgery will help.

.

>>7852740
a good punch in the face.

>>7852776
>>7852824

stay classy /cgl/

>>7852817
Ah, crap. Thanks anyways.

>>7852599
>>7852727

sort that was poorly phrased, undereye discolouration and bags are genetic, but home solutions can help you with the puffiness

>>7852817
Oh wait, can those be red? I think I have one of those, it always looks like I got punched in the cheek while the other is normal.

Any tips for applying fake nails? I have sensitive cuticles and they always seem to ache shortly after I've applied them. They don't start swelling up or becoming discolored, I just think it's the feeling of the nail right up against it that makes me squeamish. I can't help but wonder if there's a way to make the nails more comfortable.

>>7852469
>>7852489
You can still wear eyeliner on your waterline provided it's waterproof or indelible. Crayon or pencil won't do as they'll smudge, especially if you're prone to tearing up or have sensitive eyes.
Besides, your line shouldn't be thick near your waterline anyway. Pic related.

>>7852622
Take off your eye makeup before bed if you're not doing that.
Invest in an eye cream to prevent further aging around that area.

>>7852834
Well honestly how can you act all uppity about it when she called that other chick old and ugly.

>>7852740
Do you really think you're attractive? You look like a tranny straight off the boat from Thailand.

>>7852740

>>7852740
damn girl i hope this ain't bait and that's your true face so i can legit make fun of you. i mean i'd feel bad if you were still posting some random ass girl to cover yourself bc you're still too afraid to post your face or something. maybe that girl is actually nice.

but in case that's really you, the other girl at least looks like a woman and that was only a pic of her eye lol bye.

>>7853173
>>7853184
Chill the fuck out. I don't see you posting your face to get torn apart on this board. They're not ugly in the slightest. You need to take a break, maybe look at some pictures of cute animals.

>>7853189

>>7852507
I've heard amazing things about dip brow pomade by Anastasia Beverly Hills.

>>7853189
Nah she started it.
If she wants to be a smartass she might as well have something to back up her arguments.

ayy lmao

>>7852481
The fleshy gap doesn't look weird at all and this is the first time I've heard anyone say that. Why would it look weird? Your eyelashes don't grow out of your eyeball.
Liner on the waterline just makes eyes look small and squinty, especially if it's applied all the way to the inner corner. It only works in the very outer corner to give the appearance of lift.

>>7852622
I have the same problem on my upper lids and honestly I think it's just thin skin and there's nothing I can do about it. My eyelids have always looked like this so it's not an aging issue. Firming eye cream doesn't help (but I use it anyway).
Both lids often have double or even triple creases and the way they crease depends on whether I'm wearing any products there, whether I just woke up, whether I'm hydrated or not. Eyeshadow primer makes it a lot worse. I've considered eyelid glue or tape to make the crease stay put but I worry that tugging at the skin will damage it and give me droopy lids faster.

>>7853173
>>7853177
So much butthurt
Why (?)
She's so pretty

>>7853520
Not jumping on the hatewagon but she's average at best.

>>7852740
>calling people old woman when you have that face
Alos punch yourself in the face for bigger lips

>>7852740
>>7853520
Nice samefagging faggot
For bigger lips punch yourself in the face

>>7853211
Well, the poster she insulted DOES look like an old ugly woman.

>>7853567

Let's see your face. I bet you're just as ugly as the tranny thai hooker.

wow, this thread got derailed fast.

you can always count on women to dogpile on each other at the first chance.

>>7853568
Why so defensive?

Do you also get mad when someone says a black person has dark skin? lmao

>>7853520
She looks like man for fucks sake.

>>7853574
>>7852740

look at these beautiful asian princesses

>>7853574
>tfw no qt 3.14 cgl gf

>>7853581

>>7852460
Lovelyor?

>>7853574
>tfw no qt 3.14 tsundere azn gf
;_;

>>7853588
Holy shit i thought that too when i saw the pic kek

>>7852689
>>7853574
Psst, guess what anons? You'll end up looking like old ugly women someday

>>7853643

They already are ugly. I have no idea who told them they were beautiful.

Which do make up setting spray do I go for, seagulls? Nyx or Urban Decay? I can't decide.

>>7853647
True. Especially their attitudes, it makes it worse.
I can't understand why someone will insult a person's looks yet expect themselves to be perfect and superior and think they're excluded from human flaws and properties.

>>7853647
They're significantly more attractive that first anon to post their face jfc, I feel bad but those malar bags make anyone look instantly haggard.

>>7853663
I used Nyx before; for EDC. I didn't think it work (makeup-idiot here) but my makeup stayed on all night, and when I got back to the hotel room it still looked good.

>>7853643
At least I don't look like the first poster.

>>7853666
>insult
Calling a spade a spade is insulting now? How can you deny those bags make her look older?
>b-but mah genetics
So? Fact remains, she looks old.

>>7853698
>missing the irony
... Apparently you're lacking in intelligence too, to not see what I was pointing out.

Regardless, I'm done with this pointless argument, I think it's time to drop it and go back on topic with the thread.

>>7853574
>using someone else's pic to defend yourself
Die.

>>7853602
>>7853581
>>7853643
That's not her you fucking retards.

>>7853741
>getting trolled then acting like you didn't

ayyy lmao

>>7853840
What are you trying to say? That was my first post ITT.

>>7853844
and this is my first post itt. cool huh?

>>7853588
lawl

>>7853848

Liar. That was MY first post ITT.

So... I don't know where else to ask this but do noses after surgery look natural? Personally I can't tell the difference between surgery and god tier nose genetics but I personally have a hideous profile and wanna get my oy vey schnoz done, I'm just not sure if it'll look too obvious.

>>7854041
They do if you don't get one of those too-pinched nose jobs like all those plastic-y women in California.

>>7852460
1) I prefer gel liner for waterline.

2) there's not a lot that can be done about genetics, but used, cooled green teabags are my go-to (caffeine and antioxidants, plus a nice cup of tea...)

>>7854041
Yeah they do once they're healed, just make sure you have a good surgeon and aren't going for too much of a change

What can I do with makeup to make a big Jewy nose look less bad?

I'm the first anon, sorry for inadvertently derailing this shit so hard. Last post I'm gonna make re; this.

>>7853588
Not me, but we do look weirdly similar now that I've googled her.

>>7853698
>Massive eyebags make you look old
Duh, that's why I was asking for advice on them. I'm not stupid.

Thanks to everyone who offered advice (especially >>7852817 even though I already responded to you it's nice to know what they're called), but it's seriously not a big deal. I know what my face looks like, I'm not over here trying to cosplay small moe babies.

>>7852882
With malar bags too? I guess it's a similar problem so I'll give it a shot. Thanks.

>>7854049
Shit, forgot one. I ended up buying gel liner yesterday, hopefully it works out well. And I drink green tea all the time, that's actually super convenient, thanks.

>>7854061
I use darker makeup on the sides of mine and a highlight strip down the front to make it look more narrow, but if you're looking to make it look shorter then I'm not sure about that.

>>7854081
>>7854061
Fake freckles over nose bridge, subtle blush and highlighter applied horizontally on the same area, but most importantly glasses that fit your face.

You won't believe the amount of goyim I've fooled.

>>7852507
Anastasia Brow Wiz.
>>7852686
I find false lashes work wonders for cosplay makeup. You don't need super full, gaudy animu lashes, even a pair of nice natural-looking ones can help bring out your eyes. I found that when I started cosplaying as magical girl characters (Madoka, Sailor Senshi etc.) my face would end up looking too understated compared to my over-the-top, colorful, feminine costumes. False lashes helped a lot.
>>7853663
I use the Urban Decay All Nighter spray. Cosplay makeup holds up really well with it and it lasts for hours.

Hey seagulls. Two questions, pic related. I'm looking for some new styles of eye make up. I usually stick with pretty thin black eyeliner because my eyes are big and round, and I have way more eyelid than the asian beauty gurus so I find it hard to copy their looks. I have a bunch of eye shadow lying around and I'd really love to put it to more use.

Second question, should I shape/change my eyebrows? They're relatively thick, but all I do is pluck stay hair every once in a while. I just realized looking at the picture that they're a bit uneven too.

Thanks!

>>7854241
You should trim your brows with a small scissor, the hairs look really long. I think a small cleanup just under the arch would really make the arch pop, your eyebrows are a really good base for creating that nice, classic look.

>>7854095
Well I don't wear glasses but could you elaborate on the blush/highlighter part?

>>7853567
That still was uncalled for. It's a fucking makeup thread for fuck's sake. If you're gonna act like a 12yo and be like "ur ugly XDDDD" take that shit to /soc/

>>7854241
You could try a subtle smokey eye with your eyeshadows.
As for your brows. Yes. Your brows need shaping.

>>7854041
Natural looking ones are ones that really don't look much different than the nose you have now.

I wanted a really small cute button nose but the surgeon I saw photo shopped some pics he took of me to show me what he would do, I barely looked different. He made it a tiny bit shorter and thinner but it wasn't the ski slopped button nose I wanted, I would still have a ugly man nose.

>>7852460
I love using the vitamin E eye cream from The Body Shop, it reduces puffiness and dark circles around my eyes.

>>7854669
Different anon but how long did it take for your dark circles to reduce? I only just started using this.

>>7852460
My dark circles faded when I used Shiseido's White Lucent eye cream. I started noticing results in two weeks. I still have the first jar and I'm only halfway done. They've faded a lot.

>>7852740
But, she is pretty. What are you people even on about? She does look Thai, but, that's not a bad thing.

>>7854710
Not all of us have low standards.

>>7854710
They're being mean because she was being a bitch to the other girl, obviously.

>>7854710
The girl isn't ugly but not that pretty, just average looking. If someone is going to be a bitch and talk shit about someone's looks, they better be mother fucking gorgeous.

>>7854740
That's how this board is, though.
Bitterly jealous and hateful towards anyone attractive.
Ten bucks says the girl got shit because this board is full of weeaboo bitches who try so hard to reformat their DNA by wearing burando and eating friggin' pocky and the girl happened to be Asian.

>>7854669
Does it really work for dark circles? I have really bad ones...

>>7854750
The girl got shit because she posted >>7852689

>>7855432
Whatever helps you sleep at night, gaijin chan.

So today I found out that false eyelashes are supposed to be reusable. It turns out that the glue I used made the false eyelashes shrivel up after I take them off. Which glue do you use/recommend?

>>7855526
Duo

>>7853840
>got caught reposting someone else
>you got troled XDD
ebin, simply ebin.

Help me, /cgl/,

I need a pressed powder that matches my dead pale skin while covering redness and is hypoallergenic/non-comedogenic.

>>7856211
Manic Panic powder comes in super pale colors and has ok coverage

I'm using dream matte mousse foundation in light porcelain (the lightest colour) and it seems to still show up really orange in some areas

I really like mousse foundations but I'm unsure if I'm meant to use them with a brush. I've just been using my fingers all this time.

>>7856211
http://www.illamasqua.com/shop/products/complexion/foundations/powder-foundation/pf-115-powder-foundation
http://www.sephora.com/light-reflecting-pressed-setting-powder-P377757

These may help on the pale front. The NARS one is non-comedogenic and the Illamasqua one is good for colour correction.

http://www.sephora.com/pressed-mineral-foundation-P376287?skuId=1452416
Good on the coverage front and the brand is developed for sensitive skin so they're very conscious of ingredients, but I'm not sure if the palest tone would be pale enough for you.

Note: I can't vouch personally for any of these; I've used loose powder for years (Make Up Forever Super Matte Loose these days). It works well for evening out my redness-prone pale skin. If you'd be willing to try loose powder, the palest shade could be an option for you.

>>7854659
Shit I'm getting my nose done in November and now I'm worried there won't be a noticeable difference. Can't you tell your surgeon you want the results to be more...idk, drastic?

Can you guys recommend me a BB-cream like TonyMoly Dear me?

Wow, unbelievable. You're all catty bitches and shallow attention whores. This really is the worst fucking board.

>>7856396
Yes, they'll tell you what's possible and what is not. It might cost more, but they usually show you a photoshopped or something image of how your nose will look. "Western" noses (upturned with a weaker "root", and a bump/strong bridge) can potentially become more button-like but only to a degree, otherwise you risk your nose cartilage collapsing or being rekt and having difficulty breathing... or something along those lines. If you have a typical arab nose with a strong root not much can be done about that, but it'll look very elegant when the whole ordeal is over.

Sorry if I got some terms wrong, I can into English even less than into space.

>>7856396
To be honest, drastic nose jobs never look good. You might look worse because maybe a really small nose wont fit your face. A good plastic surgeon will try to make it look as normal as possible because he wants your nose to fit with the rest of your features.

Also, more drastic of a change, more work that will need to be done. It will up the price, for me, I was quoted a bit over $9000 for a natural looking nose job.

>>7856423
Are you new around here?

>>7856493

There are varying levels of change, just because you want something "more" drastic it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going full michael jackson mode, just that you don't want it to look almost the same.

I do agree that truly drastic nose jobs, where you are trying to completely change the shape of the nose (I don't mean just removing a bump), do tend to look awful.

>>7856220
After using MP's whitest powder for a year, I can't recommend that shit to anyone. It may be the color I needed, but it dries your face out and doesn't even apply well with a brush or a powder puff.

>>7855515
> mfw I'm Asian
Whatever helps you, samefag-chan.

>>7855526
>false eyelashes are supposed to be reusable
lol anon, yes they are.

Use DUO glue or Dollywink glue. Everyone here loves buying cheap crap lashes from China but I'd recommend real hair lashes from brands like Red Cherry. Dollywink makes cool lashes too.

>>7856613
How do you prep them for re-use? I tried washing them but they just broke apart. Was I being too rough?

>>7856426
>>7856493

Ah thanks anons. Well I already went to my consultation and they took my photos but haven't shown me the photoshopped versions yet. I go back a week before the surgery so maybe they'll show me then.

>>7856976
Thats odd, the surgeon photoshopped my photos on the spot when I went to my consultation. I would think that is something they would do before you even make an appointment for surgery.

>>7856226
There's really not a definite way to use foundation.
Some people prefer brushes because it gives them better coverage; others, like you, fingers.

For the longest time I applied shadows with brushes but then switched to fingers because it gives me better control of how much I'm applying on my lids.

I used to use my fingers for foundation but switched to a sponge because it makes me feel like I have better coverage on my face.

It all boils down to preference.

>>7854696
>>7855427
It's somewhat slow on repairing dark circles, but puffiness it does fix quickly.

>>7853201
>>7854222

Brow Anon here. Went by ulta today and after dealing with a very rude eastern European sales woman (not an employee), I picked up Anastasia's brow pencil. I liked the way it drew on my hand, but won't know until I put my face on tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestions ladies!

>>7853279
oh my god you really don't know anything about makeup lol

Just moved to Japan and realized I have no idea what I'm looking at brand wise here. I have pale skin (red head, pink toned) and I don't know what BB creams or foundations would be good for coverage and stayability? Does anyone have any recommendations for high quality products?

Recently started having bad reactions to my makeup. I think the cause is "propylparaben" as it's in all the makeup that is irritating my eyes and is considered hazardous from what I can tell looking around google.

So, recommendations on pencil eyeliners, mascara, and eyeshadows for sensitive eyes? These are the only things that are irritating me so far

>>7856976
Ask them, anon.

>>7855621
>>7856613
Lol, thank you very much.

It's just that the other day I came across the VVV falsies that Rinrin Doll was advertising and they were about $40/50. "They better be reusable if they cost that much." Then it occured to me to google if falsies in general are supposed to be reusable. I just assumed not because mine always shrivelled up.

>>7857178
I've only ever really used drugstore products, but I like Cezanne BB cream. It's like ¥400 for one, and it stays pretty well for me. It's thin, but not quite watery. Thicker than a typical american drugstore foundation, but not a gel or paste thick. I had to actually go to a legit makeup and beauty store to find it, though.

I recently bought myself a new blush palette and now I'm in the mood to try it out. Any make-up tutorials that involve a decent dose of blush?

>>7857177
Are you trying to be annoying on purpose?

I have been thinking of doing a youtube review of some drugstore foundations for super pale people. I am super pale and its hard to find anything that isn't expensive or bought online, so I guess it might be helpful for people with similar skin tones... I don't know, does anyone else think this is a good idea? Would anyone be interested? I am nervous about doing it, but I kinda want to. You know?

>>7853279
It depends on the thickness of the line, anon.
It also depends on whether or not you're also applying eyeliner on your lower lid.

>>7857226
Another reason could probably be your eyeliner expired, anon.
For how long have you had it? Did you share it with someone else?

>>7857325
That would be kind of awesome if done well. I've seen one such video before but it was false advertising: the title and description suggested it was for super pale people who have a lot of trouble finding foundation but the video wasn't really about that at all. "Omg I'm so pale I always have to wear the second or third palest shade in all drugstore brands teehee" No bitch, you don't know my pain and you're not being remotely helpful.
I'd also like to see how mixing with pure white foundations like that Illamasqua one goes. People keep recommending it but I've never encountered someone who actually does it themselves.

>>7857361
All of this stuff is pretty new, the oldest stuff (the eyeshadow) is only a few months old. I'm pretty sure it's the ingredients because I had this issue with eyelash glue too. Took me a long time to find something that worked for that.

Are there legitimately people dumb enough to share eyeliner...?

>>7857385
Hmm, you could try vegan brands if that's the case, anon. I recommend Urban Decay, or The Body Shop [although it's not vegan, the eyeliner isn't harsh].

And yes, some people share eyeliner and get some gnarly infections.

>>7857406
just because it's vegan doesn't mean it won't rek your shit up.

>>7857364
oh, well I have only found a few western brands that ever match my skintone. Normally I have to buy japanese or korean brands, right now I am using Skin 79's green, and it matches well despite so many youtubers claiming that it is only for stark white and skeleton people. So I hope that means my impressions will be useful... The big reason I want to do it is because so many reviews seem to be for people who are "fair" or darker, but not pale as shit mother fuckers like me.

in the past I have mixed white foundations with my normal foundation, but I am too lazy to do that daily so I end up with a face that is a bit darker than my neck after a fer hours... I also run into the problem of many drugstore products turning bright ass orange on my skin, but I don't know how common that is.

>>7857419
>>7857364
>>7857325

I guess the biggest thing keeping me from doing this is that I am overweight. Not like, obese, but you can see it on my face. Even so I have been doing makeup for years and years, at least ten, and I have been keeping up with all the recent trends. I know that I could share useful stuff, but I don't know if anyone will ever look past my chub...

>>7857415
Relax, anon. It's just a suggestion.
If you have something to contribute by all means do so.

>>7857424
I honestly don't see anything wrong with you being chubby, anon.
You're reviewing makeup, and people should be focused on that.

>>7857406
Unless anon is allergic to animal products there's no reason to believe that going vegan will change anything. It's not like parabens or other irritants are made of animals.

>>7857226
I've personally had good luck with LRP products and that's a brand that's supposed to be hypoallergenic and non-irritating. However the eyeliner I have does have propylparaben in it, so I'm not sure if that would be an improvement for you.

>>7857419
>many youtubers claiming that it is only for stark white and skeleton people
Fuck those youtubers. The only review I could find of Missha #13 back when I first bought it claimed that it was only suitable for shit like geisha costume makeup and not actual daily coverage ("I'm liek da palest person I kno so anyone paler than me doesn't exist~") but that shit is now my HG bb cream and you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

I don't think chubbiness is going to be a real problem. If you're informative then people will appreciate that no matter what shape your face is. Of course there will be assholes but fuck that, us moon chans need to stick together.

I recently started using only a pressed powder (applied with a kabuki brush) as foundation because I'm sick of literally painting liquid foundations on and feeling that 'layer'.

Is there any reason not to?

>>7857428
>>7857438
This... makes me feel much better.

And I am glad to know that other people think those reviewers are full of shit, I am not even the palest person I know, and yet I can't find any reviews or helpful videos for people with actual pale skin.

I will try to feel confident enough to review stuff, my first vids might just be my hands and some pics of my face, but I really want to do this. I think it will honestly be useful. I just hope I don't fuck it up.

>>7857353
I'm the one who posted >>7853279 and I assumed anon was talking about wearing eyeliner on their lower waterline, because
>it's clearly under it on her lash line
>If you mean it looks dumb to wear eyeliner on the bottom at all... you really need help
and I honestly have never seen dark eyeliner on the lower waterline look good ever. Upper waterline is a different story, especially if someone has super curled lashes.
I still don't think leaving it natural looks weird, though, even if someone is wearing a ton of liner/shadow/mascara next to it. That area is bare for a reason.

>>7857406
Unfortunately it's not as simple as an allergy to animal products. I kind of wish it was because then I would know specifically what to avoid. I went and was tested for allergies and nothing appeared. My eyes are just really sensitive to certain chemicals. Trying to find eyelash glue was hell, all the brands except the one I have now would leave my eyes red and burning for days.

I'll probably end up getting more UD stuff. That's what my liquid eyeliner is and it's one of the few products that doesn't irritate my eyes. I'll check out the body shop too!

Basically just looking for any brands that are known for using gentler products so I'm not so limited in my makeup purchasing.

are there any mac lashes that are similar to dolly winks or any other gyary brand?

I'm absolutely shit at make up

Though I love the look of winged eyeliner and cat eyes

Does anyone have a link to a good youtube video going through it step by step, eyeliner for simpletons perhaps?

It always looks terrible when I try it by myself

i just want to have pretty eyeliner :(

>>7857440
Pressed powder is supposed to set the foundation.
I don't see any reason why you shouldn't be using it, however you could try pressed foundation and see how it goes.

>>7857756
I don't have any links (I learned from photo tutorials, and I have a new computer, my apologies.) but one tip I have is buy an okay-but-cheap liquid/gel eyeliner (depending on your preference) to PRACTICE with. That way you're not using up good product learning how to do it.

>>7857756
You could try Michelle Phan.
There's a good eyeliner tutorial for beginners in her videos.

>>7857759
I'm trying the practising right now, either it looks better than I think it does, it just doesn't suit my eye shape, or I am just absolutely terrible at it and should stick to basic eyeliner!

>>7857760
>Michelle Phan
Will check her out. Thank you, Anon!

>>7857762
Hmmm... Do you know what your eye shape is? Because my friend has hooded eyes and I remember her complaining about how hard cat/winged eyeliner is to do on her eyes. I have almond eyes so I can only really help with those...

>>7857771
I actually have no idea.

Would this be hooded?

>>7857771
I think it's more likely that I'm just terrible, I have never really been around people who wear make up, so I've not had much to learn from in the past. Just looking up tutorials and such now for all manner of make up

>>7857777
Kinda a poor angle, but it doesn't look it? You know how your eyes look at all angles, so it would probably be best to google different eye shapes and try and see which one looks the most like your eyes. Plus, most people fall in weird in-betweens. (Like with me, for example I'm kinda in between round and almond, but since I find tutorials with almond-eyes suit me best, I just go with almond). You're really the best judge for it.

>>7857778
You'll get used to it, anon! Just time and practice, I was absolutely terrible when I first started. I'm still no guru or anything, but I'd have to say I got pretty good over the past few years.

>>7857760
>recommending Michelle Phan
>on /cgl/

>>7857808
I cringed when I read that, too. But some of her older stuff is pretty good...? If you ignore the fact that she's literal scum, that is.

>>7857756
My favorite youtube video about eyeliner is with the spoon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD1ncPzOYbE

>>7857829
Not that anon, but I've tried that before and it looks simple... But it's so hard, jfc. Maybe I just have weird shaped eyes.

>>7857840
Wrong pic, but kinda fits, as I get extremely frustrated.

>>7857840
It's just practice at the end of the day and learning your eyes. For instance, my eyes really fold in and I need to add lots of eyeliner for it to actually show compared to most tutorials.

>>7857808
>>7857822
I'm the one who posted that, and despite the hate boner you have for her, she is great for beginners.

So like deal with it or something lol.

>>7856623
>How do you prep them for re-use? I tried washing them but they just broke apart. Was I being too rough?
I've heard soaking them in alcohol works. Then just give a rinse and let them dry.

It's more about soaking than washing, they are really delicate.

I don't use them too often but I've gotten away with just peeling the glue off (though I should also say I don't use mascara on false eyelashes).

>>7857873
>But some of her older stuff is pretty good
I didn't say her makeup wasn't good, just her personality.

>>7857858
I just meant when that tutorial first came out I tried it and it was really hard for me. I'm pretty on point with free handing it at this point since it's been a few years...

>>7857924
>I didn't say her makeup wasn't good, just her personality
Her old videos were pretty good for beginners and she was far less irritating. She's gotten worse over time, both in her behavior and in her actual makeup.

>>7857939
>>7857924
Even in her old videos she still applied with her dirty hands and didn't explain techniques very well.

>>7857942
they weren't dirty and it isn't uncommon to use fingers when applying makeup. Stop being so salty.

>>7857939
Yeah I haven't watched her videos in a while, whenever I see her name on youtube I just scroll past, because her new stuff is pretty bad.

>>7857949
I agree, other anon is very very salty.

>>7852369
I'm thinking about buying Dollywink lashes, but I've never worn false eyelashes outside of my dance years (aka cheap bs ones from Target)
I want to make my eyes pop but I want them for lolita coords so nothing too thick or crazy looking. Any recommendations for numbers? Thanks!

Alright cgl maybe you can help me, sorry if this is a stupid question.

I'm fairly pale, freckled, with combo skin. I get pimples pretty exclusively around my period (and even then only one or two). I recently tried three drugstore products: a primer, foundation stick, and a bb cream.

They were all on sale so I got them. I had good luck with them over the summer, but recently I've noticed they've given me dozens of tiny under the skin pimples and a few big gnarly ass ones.

Any recs for good foundations, primers &bb creams that won't cause breakouts/flare ups?

Also, any recs on what to do to get rid of the tiny pimples? I usually double cleanse in the evening and wash when I wake up, but they don't seem to be going away.

Thank you all!

How is Benefit's They're Real mascara?

>>7858119
I got a free sample of it and it looks really good, but it was really annoying to wear because it felt like the mascara never dried. Every time I blinked I could feel my eyelashes sticking. All fucking day.

>>7857939
I used to watch her videos religiously before I got tired of her plugging her skincare line a couple years back, what has she done since then?

>>7856234
Thanks, anon. I'm going to the mall tomorrow and I wanted to drop some cash at ULTA and Sephora. I have rosacea and as much as I like Physician's Formula, it's just not made for pale people, and the lighter shades are only in transparent. I'll check out your MUF powder as well.

>>7856576
I just read reviews with the same thing. Shame, why can't more brands push out lighter shades? Especially since in the last few years people have been moving from wanting tan skin to pale skin.

Any one here know of any nice contouring products for pale skin? I'm pretty much a chubby ghost but I'm not a fan of intense warm tones which are common in things like bronzer.

>>7858047
Too Faced, anon.
Also, you might have to exfoliate to get rid of those pimples.
Anti-Blemish Solutions by Clinique is a good line.

>>7857924
Her personality matters jackshit when you want to learn makeup techniques.

She might be basic and might not be the best for people who have a fair grasp of makeup, but a lot of her earlier techniques are fairly useful, especially if you're not familiarized in any way with makeup. That's why I suggested her in the first place.

I could suggest her to visit Goss but he uses techniques that are still too advanced for beginners, so if Phan is useful then use her shit, that simple.

>>7857942
I used to watch her old videos and her hands were never dirty.
Sure, you get eyeshadow and shit on your fingers if you're applying your makeup with them, but they were never dirty to the point where she'd smudge the shit she used before in the wrong places.

>>7858477
Noted, thank you! I'll take a peek at Too Faced, and I love Clinique's lip products so I can definitely expect good things from their skin lines.

>>7856226
I also use dream matte mousse but I've tried applying it both ways with my fingers and a brush, however I still prefer using my fingers because with the foundation brush, it was harder to keep the pieces from falling off it's bristles and left obvious brush smears which I would have to blend in with my fingers anyways.
So in this case, I think it's alright to use your fingers for mousse foundation since I think the foundation brush is more for liquid foundation.

>>7858139
A ton of shit.

She does the same stuff over and over again while making a lot of stupid faces at the camera and trying to be cute. It's incredibly irritating and fake.

>>7858466
Maybe something like a light taupe? I think nyx does a light taupe "blush" that might work well.

>>7857758
Alright, thanks. I wasn't sure if powder directly on the skin was bad for clogging or something.

I've been using a loose powder to set liquid foundation, but this pressed one (Maybeliine's Super Stay hydrophobic) has a really good level of coverage on it's own.

>>7858482
>I didn't say her makeup wasn't good, just her personality.

>>7858466
i got you boo.
revlon shadow links as this eye shadow names "greige" i use this as my contour because i have super duper pale skin and all the other colors look horrible but this product truly has no warm undertones. its $2.99

the slightly darker one ill use for more harsh contour is nyx nude matte in bare my soul ($5). i also use this for my eyebrows

>>7858857
You can be pale with warm undertones, js. People like that usually wear a fake tan because it looks sickly.

>>7858860
alright????

>>7858860
Lolwat? No we don't.

>>7858862
No no I'm just saying as an fyi since lots of people think pale skin = cool undertones and then wonder why some colour looks like shit on them.

>>7858866
Perhaps not you personally but both I and lots of people I know do

this is such a stupid questions but do warm undertones = yellow and cool undertones = red?

>>7859044
more like pink, but yeah, you're on the right track. It's really hard to tell for some people, since it happens that different body parts look like they have a different undertone, lighting can be shitty, the vein trick doesn't work for some people, silver jewellery doesn't necessarily suit you BADLY if you're warm tone, etc etc. I just ask my mum/boyfriend which colours suit me and even that isn't helpful since I just get a generic "you look pretty" from both. It's really rather frustrating.

i never heard about lip plumping till a while ago.
is it safe??? is there one that anyone recommends the most? i searched it up and what i got was CITY lips. so i'm guessing thats popular.

>>7852873
if youre gonna get surgery, go to asia pls.

>>7853163
What eye colour is this??

>>7858862
>>7859146
>>7859160
What's with the abuse of question marks?

>>7859160
...brown, m8

How can I apply Ben Nye cream properly without having it flaking everywhere? I have dry skin, and the mix of heavy theater foundation plus powder just makes everything look disgusting on me.

>>7859160
>>7859193
Eh, I'd call it amber. I see a lot of Latin@s with this colour, actually.

>>7859227
Actually I'm latina and I have that colour so that's why I'm wondering. Thanks!
>>7859191
Why not?

>>7859227
whats with the @?

>>7859238
Quicker than typing Latino/Latina.

>>7852740
wtf is up with people you look so pretty!! i have the same problem though

>>7858873
I feel hair colour plays a part in it, too. I'm a natural blonde, and everyone always thought I was sick. Like, people walking up to my mother and asking how sick I was/if it was terminal/etc... The second my mother let me dye my hair it stopped. I dyed my hair blonde again before moving to college (so I wouldn't have to worry about roots) and I'm getting sickly comments again.

>>7858860
>>7859574
I should mention, I'm super pale with warm undertones.

>>7859574
Seconding this. I'm extremely pale and work at a hospital and get mistaken for a patient a lot. I have dark hair naturally and a warm red or blue based black looks best on me, depending on if I'm going for a vibrant, healthy look or a ghostly, mysterious look.

>>7853168
No? I only said that genetics is the solution to bigger lips, you cant have bigger lips just with make up.

>>7859211
use moisturizer the night before and 30 mins before applying ben nye.

>>7855709
So, what makes you think it was the actual girl posting herself?

I just want to thank you seagulls for recommending Too Faced eyeshadow primer. It's amazing and I no longer look like a meth head at the end of a work day!

>>7860743
But I don't you fucking retard. I know for a fact that the pic is no her.

>>7859245
>Holding shift+2 easier than just hitting 'a'.

What the fck is wrong with you?

>>7860772
>no
not*

>>7860776
It's the Latino/Latina form of "they".
Just like if you didn't know someone's gender, you could use "he/she" like some pompous english grammar textbook or a normal person would use "they".
You could use Latino/Latina, or you could just use Latin@. And two keystrokes are faster than seven.

>>7858730
if it works, it works, regardless of her personality
>in other words your comment was irrelevant.

>>7859146
I've only tried plumping lipgloss and it seems to work the first times but it's rather uncomfortable and wouldn't really try it again.

>>7860827
>if it works, it works

>>7860772
>people fell for it
>person got caught
>because person got caught, it means the other people didn't fall for it
>therefore its not a troll

Okay, retard.

>>7859146
dat shit painful..

>>7860991
>>because person got caught, it means the other people didn't fall for it
>>therefore its not a troll
When the fuck did I ever claim that you cunt? Are you illiterate?

>>7861038
>>7855709

>>7861060
Yep, you are a illiterate retard.

Alright retard. The reason I know for sure that wasn't her is because it's me. I only found this thread and came to /cgl/ because I was looking for reposts with the same hash.

I knew my picture could've been used for trolling and catfishing, but this is much more pathetic.

>>7861060
Again, when I ever fucking claim that?

Is English your first fucking language or what?

Anyone try "MEZAIK"?
It's Japanese new make item.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnaL0QxMIeI

How is this make up ?
http://godmake.me/movie/detail/1597/

>>7861072
>make
makeup ya weeb spanner

>>7861083
Well, it's meant to be natural and cover small imperfections like large pores or redness, really. I like the website a lot, it's very concise and organised.

Any matte lipstick recommendations?

>>7860827
Holy fucking shit reading comprehension.
>I didn't say her makeup wasn't good, just her personality.
All in regards to her older tutorials. Did you pass grammar school? Where did I say not to use her tutorials because of her shitty personality? No where. I said they (meaning the older ones, pre-Miku shit) were good, but it's too fucking bad she has a shit personality.
I'd say 0/10, but you got me frustrated with your complete lack of comprehension, so 1/10, good job anon.

>>7861237
Your comment for the second time, was irrelevant.
No one gives a shit about what you think of her personality or her drama.

Just like you've been doing this for the last three days, no one gives a fuck.
The anon asked for something to start off, I gave her Michelle Phan.

All what you have been saying is -irrelevant- to the discussion because it was in no way related to makeup other than ~hehe her personality sucks~ how hard is that to understand? Apparently too hard since you keep repeating yourself like a baboon.

Do you understand now? Or are you going to repeat the same shit over and over again, because at this point I don't know how else to say "if you have nothing important to add to a discussion, shut the fuck up and keep the thought to yourself".

>>7859191
Glad to know I'm not the only one that has noticed this... reminds me of the overuse in tumblr, bleh.

On topic, I found pic related suitable for my pale skin. It has a matte finish. There is a noticeable scent, but I think it's pretty pleasant and goes away after a while. Coverage is medium-light but it's layerable.

>>7861258
I wasn't even replying to that with my original "her personality sucks" I was replying to >>7857808

I didn't bring up the "irrelevant" topic, I was replying to someone else who seemed to find it relevant. Also, please, you still seem pretty pissy over the fact that I don't like her personality, but right in my original comment I wrote that her older stuff is good. I honestly don't know why you got so upset, when I didn't even respond to you in the first place. If you really feel like taking out whatever pent up anger is inside of you from god knows where, you should baww at >>7857808
who actually replied to you.
I'm not even going to try to reason with you or your lashing out over basically nothing anymore.

Can I ask a question about hair here? I didn't see a hair care thread...

I'm thinking about getting bangs again as I grow out my hair since shit looks spectacularly boring but I'm having a shitload of trouble finding a good picture of what I'm wanting. Closest I can find right now is this picture of T.Swift.

Basically I want them to taper down in my longer hair but to not be super heavy (as in blocky) or too thin and looking stringy. I don't want a Zooey Deschanel deal where half the top of my hair is bangs, I'd like them to be a rather small part of my hair, if that makes sense. I also don't want them blunt but to where they look choppy. How would I go about describing that to my stylist along with showing her this picture? I trust her, but I've had a lot of bad experiences with previous hairdressers totally misinterpreting what I ask for and then ending up with thick block bangs that take over half my face and chop off a good deal of my face-framing length.

Any tips on contouring? I have medium/slightly darker skin with yellow undertones, and I'm finding it a bit difficult to find a shade that doesn't make me look like a drag queen.

>>7864439
There's a hair thread in the catalogue.

>>7862119
My god anon, stop acting like a fucking shit head

You're stinking up the place

Lads how do I go about finding a suitable BB cream for my skin tone and does anyone have any recommendations?
I'm asking because no matter which one I buy it always looks darker on me and I'm not even one of those "le super pale :DDD" people, just your average basement-dweller chic as far as skin tones go.

So far Etude House has been the closest but if I remember correctly they had a bit of a cool tone to it and I'm yellow myself.

>>7864439
So essentially, you just want it to have a really gentle arch over your face.
If this is not sufficient, then consider drawing it yourself and showing the stylist.
Look like a tard for one moment or look like a tard for many.
Also, if you have thin hair this is not going to look at all like you plan, I dearly hope you understand that. If you have thicker hair, it's doable, even if it takes the stylist extra time to layer it properly.

>>7864656
>I'm not one of THOSE girls but actually I am
Which ones have you tried? Afaik Missha #13 and Skin79 Green are the lightest ones out there. If those are too dark for you then you're pretty much fucked.

>>7864687
>I'm not one of THOSE girls but actually I am
When'd I say that? I have an average white person skin tone.

I heard that Skin79 Green broke many people out so I'll try the missha one first. Is it pink toned or more on the yellow side?

I tried the following:
-It's Skin Babyface BB, tad dark and greyish-toned
-Etude House BB, can't remember the name but it was their first and original one. After that they changed the formula to Bright Fit/Cotton Fit and I tried both but they were worse. Too pink.
-Holika Holika Petit BB (moisture and clearing), way too dark
-Holika Holika Petit Jelly, acne
-Lioele Water Drop BB, too pink

I could go on but the point is the ride never ends.

>>7864693
>not super duper pale :DD
>basement dweller
Anon, you wat

>>7864693
Missha #13 is a bit greyish-yellow. I have yellow undertones myself and it works well for me.

Honestly though, if you have an "average white person skin tone" then you shouldn't have any problems finding something light enough. Most other white girls I know use shades like Missha #21 and #23 which is like NC20-25, and I often see them complaining about how bb creams are all impossibly light. If you've tried a bunch that were too dark for you then I'm sorry to say this but you're probably one of us.

>>7864714
Is there one with pink undertones? I'm cool-toned and had this recommended to me, but I was worried about it being a bit yellow.

>>7858857
Thanks, I'll give it a try. I can find it for 10 USD in my country but I guess I'll keep on looking.

>>7858561
Those colours are quite pretty in that range. I'll look up some reviews, thanks.

>>7864699
when you say "super duper pale" it implies literally paper sheet white, as in the Jewish ginger kid in school who has to carry an umbrella with him. "Basement dweller" is just an average pasty white person who hasn't seen sun. Capiche?

>>7864738
That's a really weird distinction, anon.

Does anyone know how to deal with severe eye bags? I'm only 22 but have had them since I was a young teen, they really get me down. I have no idea how to cover them up with make up, nothing seems to work.
Pic related

>>7864750
I...I guess. I'm sorry, I just have some family members who really are like that and I guess I grew to understand it differently.

>>7864660
I wouldn't even dare do it if my hair was thin. I'm lucky to have slightly thick hair, but whole fucking lot of it. The reason I want the bangs like that in the first place is because "standard" bangs look way too heavy on me.

So thank you, I'll definitely draw out what I'm thinking of for her!

>>7864759
Unless you aren't getting proper sleep and drinking enough water its probably genetic, and since its a skin fold makeup doesn't really cover it up. Maybe try some eye creams to help moisturize though?

>>7864759
A highlighting concealer around the fold can help minimize it

>>7864759
cut them off

>>7864759
Maybe you can try this?

http://www.gollylocks.com/2012/10/gyaru-makeup-trend-tear-bag-tutorial.html

>>7865864
white people look so bad when they do this. like asians look sort of bad with it but damn. this is the worst makeup trend.

>>7857756
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkCv_oLTTTk

I use this technique.

Can anyone suggest some nice loose powders? I was using some Mary Kay stuff, but I'm almost out now and the Bare Minerals powder I got is too orange for me.

>>7866711
Don't do loose... They're so messy and you waste so much product. If you're insisting loose, you could try Urban Decay, but I don't think you'll get the fuller coverage like Bare. I'd try a press powder by Laura Geller of Pür. Go to a make up counter, Sephora or ULTA to have someone match you.

>>7866715
**LG or Pür

>>7866715
Okay, I'll look at them. The last time I used pressed was when i was a total noob using cheap things, and they always got really gross and turned me off to them. Thank you!

>>7856623
Use nail polish remover to remove the glue

>>7865399
There was a period of time as a teen where I didn't sleep and that's when I noticed that I got them. I sleep properly now and they never got any better.

>>7865460
I wish. I have considered surgery tbh.

>>7865456
>>7865864
What type of concealer do you recommend? I've caked the stuff on before and it doesn't help at all because it's folds of skin unfortunately.
Thanks for the link, I'll give it a try but idk if that technique will suit me. Worth a shot though!

Saw some talk of Manic Panic products in here, and I just wanted to say that I've been using the Manic Panic White Dreamtone to mix in with my foundation (Revlon Colorstay 24 hrs), and it's amazing. I don't know why I never thought of mixing white into my foundation before, I'm as pale as they come and no foundation ever looked good on me.

I will also use Ben Nye clown white on occasion, if I want a thicker consistency (like for cosplay if I'm broken out) But for day to day use, the MP is great. It's really changed the way I feel about my makeup (and it's only like $11 on amazon + lasts 5ever because I'm only using a tiny bit)

>>7858233
>lighter shades

Try Hourglass's Ethereal Light or Too Faced's pressed powder. If all else fails, go to Mizon's snail BB cream. All other supposedly pale BB creams by places like Etude, Skin79, and Missha all failed me except for this one.

>>7867621
Also, I can't really speak to the longevity of this product, but I've been really liking Nyx's Dewy Finish setting spray, it's really good for looking like a dewy uguu anime princess

cons: I don't know how long it really lasts, but it seems like it would be easy enough to spritz on your face to touchup before a photo shoot or something, for extra uguu

also nyx, because I'm cheap

>>7856211
have you tried any of the Physician's Formula stuff? I don't remember the exact name of this product, but it's color correcting. I use it in the "Translucent" color. Plus it's talc free/hypoallergenic/non-comedogenic and can be bought at drug stores. I'd say give this a try before spending the money on the fancier stuff, but then again I'm super cheap...

>>7867621
Yooooo I do the same thing with my Dreamtone. I mix it with concealer for my dark circles.

>>7867626
The matte one lasts a little longer than the dewy finish, but I love them both. And for $7, I think they're pretty decent quality products.

>>7867621
Oh man, ordered. Perfect for everyday and for my upcoming halloween makeup. You saved the day anon.

>>7866711
THIS STUFF
>http://www.walmart.com/ip/Coty-Airspun-Translucent-Extra-Coverage-Loose-Face-Powder/10312547
this stuff is so nice. its scented and i have pretty sensitive skin but it doesnt bother my skin at all. feels super light.

>>7864714
So I just got Missha #13 and it's shockingly too dark and doesn't cover well enough. Does anyone have a slightly paler foundation or am I doomed to mixing clown white foundation in with it?

>>7857321
lisa eldridge has a few!

>>7857760
omg do not go look at michelle phan

>>7857873
you sound 13

>>7858119
I liked it a lot, the wand kept stabbing my eye though. I liked my bday free sample of make up forever's eyelash shit

>>7852369
I know I'm way late on the skin tone bandwagon, but I have a dilemma. My face frequently gets very flushed (not sure why), so since my face was always flushed pink I just figured I has pink undertones. The vein trick has never worked for me either. After reading this though, I realized I fit a lot of the yellow undertone specifications. I look good in black, pastels are a nightmare, and gold jewelry suits me best (though I usually wear silver). Is it possible to have skin that gets flushed red but actually has yellow undertones? I've been wondering about this since all of the pink toned foundations I have tried look "off," if that makes any sense.

Slightly OT but I need to do some really shitty looking "lolita doll" makeup for reasons. Not necessarily ugly looking but just something that isn't acceptable to wear with lolita. The character is a 13 year old edgy-desuuu girl who just got her first lolita dress from milanoo. it is a long story.
Any advice?

>>7867925
Do the michelle phan white eyeliner thing with false lashes on the bottom boom done

>>7867925
Crooked eyelashes and clown white foundation! Make sure to cake it the fuck on too

I'm currently using Laura Mercier's Silk Creme Foundation in Soft Ivory which is pretty much a perfect match for my skin, but it's almost run out and I've since moved to an Italian city that doesn't have Laura Mercier products anywhere (or Bobbi Brown, which is usually my back-up choice). It does, however, have two Sephoras, so I was wondering if anyone knew which foundations they have at Sephora Italy would be a decent match in colour and preferably coverage (though that doesn't matter as much). I've been looking myself on the website but everything looks a little too dark so far, though I could be wrong.

And do the 'doll lips' thing (and use a lot of bright pink blush)
>>7867925

I kept having issues with makeup caking and sliding after a few hours. Tried all the tricks and tips under the sun... And it only increased the duration of my makeup by an hour

I epilated my face out of curiosity (lol) AND BEST DECISION OF MY LIFE. It fucking hurt but all the peach fuzz on my face was making it difficult to get proper coverage. I use less makeup now and it lasts ~8 hours before I have to start blotting.

Anyone have recommendations for a brush set for a beginner? My assorted e.l.f. shit is barely cutting it.

>>7868929
real techniques, crown, sigma, and morphe brushes are all pretty good, especially in the bang-for-your-buck department and they come in pre-figured sets so you don't have to worry about figuring out which brushes to buy

>>7868093
Here's a full list of things that should match, feel free to add other foundation shades to fine tune your matches:

http://findation.com/searches/910281

Though I've heard a lot of good things about NARS Sheer Glow in Siberia. Good luck!

>>7867854
I've considered myself ultra pale and #13 is too light for me.
Maybe you should check out gothic make up or theatrical foundation :/? Ask the shironuri girls what they're using

>>7867854
Try Graftobian Ultra-Lites. It's theatre grade stuff but it's the best shade range for pale I've ever seen.

>>7868962
Yeah, I'd been hoping to go for a NARS foundation but Sephora Italia doesn't seem to carry Siberia, oh well.

>>7868954
seconding real techniques, I will never go back from my expert face brush.

walmart just started carrying them, praise jesus

I have quite a formal type event coming up and I'll be wearing a white dress or a black and white dress, What makeup would complement the outfit but still look impressive and stand out?

>>7852369
Has anyone tried Too Faced powder foundation? I really want to try it but I haven't used a powder foundation in years.

>>7869277
Red lipstick with smoky eyes or winged eyeliner.

>>7867899
Yes, this is actually very common. People often get confused about the difference between "undertones" and "overtones". Undertone is what you should match your foundation to--in your case you need to match to yellow based products. Overtones are things like flush or rosacea, and if your foundation matches your skin then it should cover any redness up.

>>7869325
>>7869277
I would say make it look natural or either bold lips or bold eyes.
PLEASE don't do red lipstick with smoky eyes, it will make you look like a porn hooker.

Does baking soda actually make teeth whiter? I'm curious but I'm also weary of it possibly making my teeth weaker.

>>7852740
you can get good, decently priced "lip plumping" lipglosses and stuff, i think they have cinnamon in? or maybe just try lipliner and concealer to change your natural lip shape like the kardashian girl :-)

>>7870766
Yes. It's probably the best and most natural way to make your teeth whiter. It's also a common ingredient in natural toothpaste.

You could probably brush once a day with it, and use regular toothpaste the rest of the time. It's very important to continue to use regular toothpaste as baking soda will not kill the bacteria in your mouth. While it can be abrasive to your enamel if you use it too much, it's probably the least detrimental of whitening possibilities.

>>7857226
I really like faerie organics, they only have like 4/5 ingredients and they last pretty long.

>>7870159
Thank you for your help! This should definitely help me in finding foundation that matches my skin.

Purple lip stain on a white girl with cool undertones. Yay or nay? I bought it on impulse, but now I'm really doubting.

>>7870857
Emo

>>7870887
So...maybe?
Wearing it now, not sure how I feel. I think maybe my hair is too bright for it. Might look good with a black or dark brown wig, though.

What are some eyeshadow brands that show up really well?

>>7870893
Heres an idea:
Post a picture

Sugarpill Cosmetics are a wonderful brand of bright and fully pigmented colours that look absolutely lovely with or without primer.

http://www.sugarpillshop.com/

I have all 3 of their original sugarpill palettes and they're gorgeous. Soft, buttery, and blend fantastically with a super soft brush. It lasts for so long and the pots are big.

I'd have a look if you want bright makeup.

Are there any brands that do lip scrubs besides Étude House and Lush? I tried the former's and didn't really like it and I'll probably be buying one of Lush's tomorrow but I was just wondering if there are any more around.

Would primer be the solution to my problems, and what primer would you suggest?

I put lotion on my face everyday after I shower, and I only wear makeup 1-2 times a week, sometimes none.
I recently bought Hard Candy's heavy duty concealer as my other concealer isn't light enough. Now this might be my loose powder doing this, but after I set my foundation and concealer with my powder almost 1-2 hour later I noticed my nose looks patchy(like makeup is missing), flakeyness under my eyes and the lines under my eyes look like no makeup was applied(it just looks like streaks of missing makeup.)

I lotion my faces everyday, so I'm thinking a makeup primer or something would help keep the makeup in place?? This problem all started when I bought a new concealer.

>>7867854
http://www.amazon.com/COSMETICS-Blemish-anti-wrinkle-whitening-protection/dp/B00AFOGDE8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Best BB cream I have ever used.
Pale enough for me, am Asian/Italian mix, white as fuck.
Highly recommend for girls like me who are too light for Etude and Western brands are too dark.

Whenever I use foundation, my skin reacts as though I just rubbed it with potato chips andbacon grease. I've tried many sorts of foundations, including skin clearing and "light" foundations. Even BB creams do it to me.

What the fuck can I do? Is there a super light foundation for sensitive skin that I can try?

>>7872498
I also use this with Skin Food's peach sake finishing powder.

>>7870823
>faerie organics
I was just looking at their skin care line- have you used any of it? If so, was it any good? I'm a little skeptical about the soap-free thing, but it looks really cool.

>>7870857
Layer or mix it with another lipstick/gloss/balm for a less harsh but equally fun/unique colour imho. Everytime I have uncertainties regarding a lip colour that's what I end up doing at least

>>7852873
Actually, check out the "Chinese spoon technique" facial massage on Youtube, it helped me out a lot