/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

When does uniboob become boobloaf? I find myself getting slight uniboob in a lot of dresses that should fit me. Is pic related normal/okay? I apologize in advance for the shitty camera phone pic.

>>7826861
Everyone gets a little uniboob just because of the structure of pretty much all lolita dresses. It really only becomes boobloaf when a crease starts to form underneath your boobs making them look like a weird bulging load in your dress. Having trouble finding an example sorry :( But you can usually tell because a boobloaf casts a shadow.

>>7826861

Oh my god, I would never notice the uniboob because the violin design is so perfectly displayed over it.

>was this IW's plan all along?
>hide uniboobs with anti-boob designs


Sorry, I don't really know how to answer your question. My boobs do all kinds of weird things in IW from forming uniboobs, boobloafing, not fitting at all, and once, forming two very flat, round boob pancakes on my chest in a very flat IW dress. I think it's only a problem when you look in the mirror and go "wtf is happening with my boobs?"

If it doesn't actually look weird, I wouldn't worry about it. If you want to know whether it looks weird, ask for a second opinion from your friends, or censor and self post here. Personally I think you like all right in that dress, if only because the design doesn't even look like boobs.

>>7826861
I think this looks like boobloaf to me but from the thumbnail I couldn't tell because basically of what >>7826883 said. The fact the bosom looks low on the bodice does it for me.

I'm a flat chested insecure pervert though so I might notice it more than others.

>>7826892
My boobs are kind of low anyways (not saggy, but like lowly placed, I guess), and I feel like the highwaist design might not be as flattering as the other cut. The bodice on this one looked a lot cuter than the other, though, so I went for it. I'm below even the low end of the bust measurement but have decent boobs.
I'm also incredibly insecure about how my chest looks in things since their aforementioned weird placement, so I might be oversensitive to it as well.

I tried to show the fit a bit better. Sorry about the tiny image.

>>7826941
looks fine.

Anyone know if AP USA will get the lacy non-print series that was released recently?

>>7826941
try leaning forward, put your hands down your blouse and pulling your boobs up then seeing how it looks from the side?

>>7826941

Doesn't look *that* bad imo.

I bought a minimizing bra for this problem. It was the best decision ever.

>>7826977
When it comes to non-print release, they usually get the leftovers from JP.
Unless it's super popular, then they release more of that series for the U.S.

Looking at hats and hair accessories on F+F and I stumbled upon this. Which coat is this? I have trouble finding it on the website

>>7826941
I think it looks fine and tbh unless you're actually flat chested, this is kinda inevitable with that kinda cut. Seriously though, what is up with IW, do they actually have some kinda weird boob vendetta or something? - 'We're gonna make our designs so pretty you won't be able to resist, but we shall bring wrath upon your vile, protruding exteriorities'.

>>7827017
But it looks kind of bad?

>>7827086
Different Anon but it looks fine to me

>>7827081
This. Like WTF IW... They routinely release "110+ cm" cuts that are so unflattering on most people without extremely small chests, resulting in a number of large girls purchasing them with disastrous results like that girl in the ita thread a short while back.

>>7826857
http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/dreamv/item/512962/

Do you think this could make a decent lolita coat? Warmth isn't really a factor.

Also, DreamV coats in general?

this just makes you look like the snottiest bitch ever....

>>7827231

Is there a history behind this girl I'm unaware of?

Going off the the sales post alone, this looks like a good move to me, since all the itas she posts on her lolita panel are made up by her, she won't accidentally insult or shame anybody. At the same time it gives lolita a chance to unload their ita items for a better cause than letting loose another ita into the world. Comparisons between replicas and the real thing are always welcome, too, it's educational for newbies and interesting for elder lolitas.

>>7827231
I think she posted in the bst, she's doing a panel and wants to show people the differences between shit and brand. It doesn't sound snotty imo, much better than lolita panels where you just get shown pictures of the dos and donts 'cause then you get people who say
>it looks good quality in the picture and when I got it it's an ita lace monster
>but replicas aren't worse quality than burando
So asking for replicas of her own dresses isn't really snotty because then she has an actual side by side comparison.

how to store/hang a jsk with really thin staps? I get nervous that the weight of the dress with stress out the straps if I hang it...

>>7827231
Are your feelings hurt because your closet is filled with lace monsters? She's just asking for bad "cosplay" lolita items so that she can teach newbies. I think it's a great idea.

>>7827271

- put the dress through the middle of the hanger and hang it folded in half at the waist (note: the skirt will be wrinkled where it hung on the hanger and some of the laces might want to stand up since they were hung upside down)
- fold the straps down and hang it from a skirt hanger (note: put pieces of sponge or felt so that the fabric doesn't get marked from the clamps)
- fold the dress neatly and store flat

A question about Milky-Ange, do they only sell dresses in limited amounts or do they restock?

Just a quick reminder that lolita is also about mindset and personality, and if you're not a virgin then you should just stop, because this hobby isn't for disgusting sluts

Thank you c:

>>7827710
I will fuck if I like and still dress in lolita all day, every day.

Is the white on Nameless Poem stark white or ivory (or even offwhite)?

>>7827754
it's more of a beige/pinky ivory

>>7827710
I sort of want to get a lower-tier dress and make a cute coord to fuck in.. that'd be hot...

what the fuck lol lol lol

>>7827788
neuclear?

>>7827788
Just saw that too anon, wtf
>it's the thought that counts?

>>7827788
RIP, Mrs. Chann

>>7827710
Thank you! Finally someone else agrees

Reminder to not take the fucking bait, jesus christ people.

/cgl/ is that dense friend who gets into a serious debate with everyone who's just taking the piss out of her.

Hey Classy Ladies, need some help with chiffon blouses. I love how elegant and feminine they look, but I'm having a hard time finding good chiffon blouses. Nothing up on brand, not a lot of chiffon in Axes Femme in this fall season, and some of the chiffon blouses I saw on TaoBao were a little too over the top for my personal taste in terms of frills. I'm looking for something with a bit more of a sleek look, more Victorian and a little less Shirley Temple. Any recommendations on places to look? Tried Modcloth but they didn't have much (and their quality can be extremely iffy,) and google searches just landed with the same old, same old bland blouses you can get at Macy*s.

Is it creepy to send people asks on tumblr when they have reblogged a picture of you and added something kind or tagged it saying something kind?

I apologize if this has been asked before; however I've been planning ac oord for a dress of mine for almost 2 years and in order to complete it I feel like I need one of these halo hair accesories.
Not this one in specific, there is one that is an actual halo. I've loked everywhere for the picture of it but its a simple golden halo worn by a lolita in a white long dress.

>>7827959
dropped my picture

>>7827908
start trawling etsies and thrift stores. some of my best blouses have come from goodwills; seek out ones with high concentrations of little old ladies in the area and wait for them all to croak & their foolish relatives to donate their church clothes.

>>7827949
I don't think so, maybe just remember to say something about how they reblogged such and such photo of you and thank. That way it'll show you're not just appearing out of the blue

>>7827959
>>7827960
I was talking about this earlier but try searching for a madonna crown or a sunburst crown. You can make them with meat skewers, of all things.
I've also seen them sold a few places
http://apatico.net/millinery-headdress-headpiece/mary-crown-spiked-halo-headband

https://www.etsy.com/listing/198870735/made-to-order-sunburst-crown

The last one seems out of business but you could try asking anyway.

>>7827959
>>7827960
I was talking about this earlier but try searching for a madonna crown or a sunburst crown. You can make them with meat skewers, of all things.
I've also seen them sold a few places

http://apatico.net/millinery-headdress-headpiece/mary-crown-spiked-halo-headband

https://www.etsy.com/listing/198870735/made-to-order-sunburst-crown

>>7827981
Thank you for your input, the search words have been helpful.

I have a question about lighting. In my old apartment I got natural sunlight that came in to my bedroom really nicely so I could take nice flat photos of my wardrobe and stuff but I moved and this apartment gets zero natural light thanks to trees and other buildings. The only overhead lights are in the kitchen and bathroom so that's worthless.
What kind of lamps should I look for to get nice light for photos? I have one of those 5-bulb bendy adjustable lamps right now but it's pretty terrible and doesn't help.
I got a bunch of new shit but can't take cute pictures of anything and it's driving me nuts.

>>7827710
g8 b8 m8

>>7828071
Have you tried editing your photos to remove the tinge that lightbulbs cause?

>>7828080
My problem is more that everything is too dark and when I use my lamp there are lots of ugly shadows.

>>7827231
How the fuck is this snotty? She's trying to educate brand-new lolitas so they can realize that replicas are a terrible idea even if they're cheap. Having met Bobbi in person a handful of times at conventions, she's an absolute sweetheart and not snobby in the least.

>>7826861
Hi, sorry, I'm not really a lolita, but source on this dress? A responder said it was IW, but I couldn't find this one under searching 'Innocent World Violin'.
Sorry, I really don't know much, but I'm in love with this.

>>7828161
It's Innocent World's Stradivarius. Google harder.

>>7827908
You're looking a little late, chiffon pieces come out spring/summer, and we're going into fall.

>>7827482
It depends. Most of their designs have been around for years, so sometimes, they stop selling as well as they used to, and they just allow the dresses to go out of stock.

Also, their Amazon shop has more items in stock that aren't on their website sometimes. I'm not sure why that is, but found a dress I thought they'd discontinued that way.

Which one are you interested in?

>>7828181
Thanks, you're the best.

>>7827788
Her color choice is bad here but I think it's cute

>>7827079
http://www.fanplusfriend.com/classical-lolita-scallop-wave-thick-wool-coat-fine-fur-bow-scarf/
you blind son?

>>7828071
>>7828092

Pic related is the easiest reflector, it's just cardboard covered in foil. you use it by angling it so that the light is directed into the shadows so they don't look so dark, which is what you mentioned your problem was. It might be harder to make one big enough to photograph dresses, though.

The diffuser is harder to make, the purpose of the diffuser is to scatter the light so that the shadows look fuzzy and don't have a clear outline, giving your photos a softer look.

There's a whole page of lighting reflectors and diffusers here that you can try, maybe one of them will suit your needs
http://www.diyphotography.net/how-to-build-24-diy-softboxes/

Or, if you have the space for them, you could just go out and get a pro studio setup -- umbrella lighting and all.

>>7828071
If you're going tot take lots of photos and have a DSLR, you can get really cheap studio light sets off ebay. Not the greatest, but definitely good enough for laid out clothes and outfit shots. If it's something you do a lot of/enjoy doing that may be worth looking into.

If not, what >>7828356 said - reflectors. If you can't be arsed marking one again, you can generally find them pretty cheaply on ebay.

>>7828356
>>7828398
thank you both!

http://youtu.be/Dtlb8aQ-fC8

Reason above to why I haven't uploaded stuff in a while... I saw someone complaining about it in some thread and dun duun duuun. Sorry for name faging.

>>7827788
This is not lolita or fairy kei and yet the mods let her spam and bump her posts. Rules are what?

>>7827231
>snottiest bitch
Yeah man, I've got allergies and I sometimes get pretty bad sinus infections. Sometimes I like to blow my nose on bad replicas. Tis the season~

>>7827231
>this just makes you look like the snottiest bitch ever....

Did you read the same thing as me, anon? How did this come off even remotely snotty to you?

>>7827846
It doesn't matter how much you say it, people here are too dumb to tell the difference between a post and bait anyway

>>7827788
>neuclear alpaclings

>see pic related
>think "oh that's cute"
>look up on taobao.
It's still up Chesstory for ~$48 dollars. And she had the BIN at $75...

>>7828852
If it's new, that isn't really that bad a price.

>>7828852
The bid is only at $61 now though. Cheaper than getting it from taobao.

>>7828048
No problem, anon.

>>7828925
>>7828919
yeah you're right. It's not that bad as I initially thought. And she has a accessories up which I didn't realize. I'm just a humongous jew.

ugh, anons. Lately all earrings, necklaces and bracelets have been making me allergic. Right now only sterling silver pieces aren't being itchy. Where can I get loli-themed sterling silver jewelry, specially earrings? I can't find any that looks even remotely kawaii.

>>7828945
What country do you live in? If you're in the US, Piercing Pagoda has some cute jewelery in sterling silver.

>http://www.pagoda.com/home/index.jsp

I'm confused by that new post on the Rufflecon FB comm. People are planning to wear Lolita outfits to the masquerade ball? Isn't it a formal dance? I am wondering now if I should rethink my outfit entirely.

>>7828960
Wouldn't lolita be appropriate to wear to a lolita convention's formal ball? I'm confused as to why you're confused.

>>7828965
Because it's a formal ball, and everyone would presumably be wearing Lolita the rest of the time, so I expected they would be wearing something non-Lolita (formal gowns or something) for the Masquerade.

>>7827271
Use clip hangers and clip them to the bodice

>>7828945
Sweet, classic, gothic? I like traditional charm bracelets since you can theme them, and the base bracelets aren't that expensive. You can also get really cute charms on ebay for cheap.

I don't normally pop into this general, but it seems the most logical place to ask seeing as how the help thread is just full of cosplayers. I hope no one minds. I came across a beautiful book print lolita dress online, and I'm contemplating purchasing it for just normalfag wear - catch - it's by Dream of Lolita. I've been warned by actual lolita wearers that they're not to be trusted, but my question is just how bad are we talking here? Once the print doesn't look like I printed it off on a printer myself (low quality blurry print), and the seams are ok, and there's no terrible shiny material, I'm pretty happy to wear it. Think Target/Walmart/JCPenney quality and above as passable. I've looked at some online reviews but all I've found is actual pictures of the full dress rather than up close details. Can anyone advise me on whether they're wearable for a normalfag/daily wear please?

>>7828945
>Lately all earrings, necklaces and bracelets have been making me allergic.
even plastic ones?

>>7829009
The only DOL dress I saw in person was blurry and that kind of super thin permawrinkled cheap fabric. I'm not sure I would even put it at Walmart level. The dress in the photo looks crooked as well but maybe it's not on the dress form right. If you love that print I would suggest finding similar fabric and having someone make you something since it's a relatively simple cut.

>>7828990
Might be easier if you consider it a lolita formal ball, aka everyone is going to be busting out their best/nicest coords for the event.

>>7829012 again for >>7829009
I just checked for you and searching "library fabric" on etsy and ebay gives results similar to the print on the dress.

>>7829009
I mean if you're not going to wear it in a lolita way and just want it for casual wear, go for it.
My friend wore the fantasic dolly DOL and it looked alright from my memory, I wouldn't have known it was a replica until she told me, and I own the real deal.

>>7829012
>>7829018
Ah, thank you both. I was looking into the possibility of just buying the fabric but I kept running into the same source material initially.

>>7829014
Would something fancy but a bit costumey like the OP picture or >>7828184 be appropriate?

Chess Story Lolita Raincoat. Thoughts? Opinions?

>>7829189
cute as fuck but looks really cheap

>>7829189
It's a good idea but I am not sure about the colour.

>>7829203
>>7829202
The ivory looks a bit better, the black looks horrible.

>>7829189
I've had very mixed thoughts about it ever since it's release.
It's a cute idea, but like someone else stated - it looks cheap.

>>7829189
I hate the cut. I have an awesome VM one, but it doesn't match all my outfits so I was looking for a more neutral coloured raincoat. This won't be it

>>7829009
Possibly dumb-ass question (I don't really keep up to date with releases etc) but, is this a replica or just readily available, non-unique/brand specific design fabric? I'm very tempted if it's not really ripping anything off.

Does anyone have any more tips about wearing lolita in public? Usually when I go out I go with a friend but next week my comm is having a meet in a super touristy public location and none of my friends can go with me. I'm having some serious anxiety about the nosy tourists and attention we're going to get (since it's going to be more than normal). Also I've been wanting to do this OTT coord and I feel like it's going to attract even more attention. I can't even go like 10 feet away from my car in this city (in lolita) without someone getting in my face.

>>7829208
The MMM ones I always thought looked cheap too. I think it's just hard to do a solid, non pattern, color with that type of fabric and have it look nice?

>>7829249
This isn't a replica. It looks vaguely similar to JetJ's library print but is totally different upon inspection.

>>7829261
Honestly, I would just be a broken record if anybody invades your space and demands to know why you're dressed "like that."
I know you don't want to attract a lot of attention, and loudly protesting someone being in your space will get you attention, but if someone is being rude and in your face, loudly and clearly tell them to leave you alone and that they're making you uncomfortable. Hopefully that'll get them to fuck off.

>>7829264
I feel like they look better in light coloured materials, since the highlights are less prone to show (thus revealing how crinkly the material is), but hey're generally pretty awful regardless.

Would bodyline shoes 224/225 in brown match Honey Cake?

>>7829264
It could have worked if they didn't try so hard to make it ruffly and ~kawaii~. If it have had a more casual design but still with the same cut it might have been doable

>>7829009
I actually have this. The material is kinda coarse and stiff, the print came out okay. Construction wise, I ordered it custom size and it came out to be slightly too big, but that's fine. The skirt isn't as full as brand, but that's okay since you're gonna wear it as casualfag wear.

>>7829189
looks like a pink garbage bag

When does Innocent World usually release their Winter lucky packs? I've been eyeing pic related in green for a while now, but since it doesn't look like it will sell out before the end of the summer sale, I'm wondering if I should wait til lucky pack season and see if I can scoop it up secondhand for cheaps.
I had the same problem as >>7826941: I bought the high waist version because the bodice looked cuter, but it fit me really awkwardly

>>7829261

(a) find a space to change at the place you're going to. You don't need to be in "normal clothes", just pack most of the OTT stuff and accessories, and find a private-ish place where you can put them on and update your makeup in peace. Reverse the process upon leaving (makeup removal wipes are useful)

(b) It's September, so actually, responding with "early Halloween party, duh" is appropriate.

>>7829189
>>7829264

Both of these look like PVC. PVC inherently looks cheap to me. Or fetishy. Mackintosh fabric is at least matte instead of being plasticy-shiny. Just, don't do PVC.

Compare and contrast VM raincoat in pic.

>>7829261
Sunglasses, bitchface and not meeting anyone's eye. Head up & keep walking and if someone stops you to ask what are you doing/wearing don't stop, just answer them over your shoulder "oh it's just a meet up of girls who like Japanese fashion."

Help me pls Q_Q
I register on Angelic Pretty site now. Tenso gives me phone number and address, but I have troubles with my phonetic name. Site dont want accept it and converts katakana to latin. What can I do? D:

>>7829949
I have never had that problem. Did you copy and paste the katakana?

>>7829951
Yes, I translated name in google translate and one other site

>>7829949
>>7829951
Omfg I tried use other browser and I got it, lol
Thank u, sis :3

I really need the brown jacket from Melty Ribbon Chocolate. I thought I had my priorities straight when I decided to socialize instead of wait for the release to happen, but I was clearly wrong.

Have any anons ordered from Antique Beast and received their order or tracking number yet?
I ordered the day they re-opened for business and I'm yet to receive either.

Why can't I find a decent pleated skirt in navy

I just want one I could use for lolita and casual wear dammit

>>7829967
Milky?

>>7830060
it takes awhile. If I remember correctly it's just one person that hand makes everything.

>>7830144
Make one? Box pleats are easy and cute and you can get good fabric online, as well as patterns from the Otome no Sewing books.

>>7830144
What about pic related? It's up on the Baby SF site.

>>7830165

I was planning on doing that as a last resort, actually

>>7830166

It's great, but shipping from the US to my country is insane: it's hella expensive and customs tend to charge more for it(like 200%+), so yeah.

Any other place is fine though, it's just that my country has a hate-love relationship with the US.

I GOT A MIGHTY NEED

>>7830326

>>7830327

Does anyone know when AP SF is stocking the Melty Ribbon Chocolate series?

>>7830326
god fucking damnit.

>>7830353
I called and they said they were.

this is so fucking embarassing for lolitas everywhere...

>>7830427
>implying its ever not embarrassing
Most normies would find lolita embarrassing, article or not

>>7830427
>all that cosplay
Man I'm embarrassed on both behalfs.

>>7830427
why would you let your pictures be used in a shitty magazine that thinks we are all dolls, after that tv show...

>>7830427
>turning japanese

>>7830427

>>7830432
They probably signed a waiver that had no information on where the pictures would be used.

>>7830487
Yeah some of the bg girls in the "My Strange Addiction" fiasco claimed to not know the true nature of the episode they would be featured in and were told it was going to be showcasing Japanese fashion, not making Lolita fashion look like freak fetish wear. Sucks.

>>7830326
Tbh I prefer the book-print they released 2 years ago, this one just looks like a very lazy attempt to make much money with an almost identical design and print.

Haenuli needs to fucking learn that shitting glitter and stars doesn't make everything better.

I normally give a very lax leeway when it comes to my childhood memories, but man, Haenuli, you ruined them, you ruined them gud.

>>7829967
Keep checking the site anon! I thought I was fucked for good when I missed the skirts, but a few days later they were up for pay-on-delivery. I contacted my ss immediately about it and she got me the skirts in brown and bitter!

>>7830427
what magazine is this?

>>7830590
A trashy British gossip rag, probably look! Or now! Or some other such shitty publication

I might have developed an allergy against my regular eyelash glue. I have experienced slight itching, stinging and now even gotten a bit swollen at the exact same spot on my left eye lid.

Does anyone know any other brand of glue that is good for people with sensitive skin?

>>7830432
>>7830487
Also it kind of looks like an anime convention, judging by the amount of cosplays in there.

>>7830576
I love this but I know she's going to Haenuli the hell out of it. The print's too busy as it is.

Anybody catch the Bodyline sales drama today? I was at work.

>>7829813
I bought and then sold this dress because the bodice fit wonky as fuck. I wanted to get my hands on the high waisted jsk because my friend has it and it fits her nicely.

>>7830576
Everything they do looks so cheap to me. Very clipart-y.
The big, flat coloured yellow star looks especially shit here, and there is so much going on in the backgrounds...

>>7831177
The horses are poorly drawn, too. Their noses and stomachs look so awkward. It's a shame, because I like the concept but the execution is just...meh.

>>7831187
I think that's because it's supposed to be based off of The Last Unicorn. At least I think so?

>>7831177
I'm assuming the flat yellow star and moon will be gold foil print? Lief has done it in the past, and they're a Korean brand too.

>>7830576
jesus christ this looks fucking awful. ever since they cranked out the le petit prince print....

>>7830386
Did they say when by chance?

>>7830060
I received my items already it may depend on where you live though anon.

Hi seagulls!

Does anyone have the shoulder measurement for the Queens Coach OP? I can't seem to find it anywhere, and I have big shoulders so I'm worried if I buy it it won't fit me....

>>7830932
This is from Hyper Japan I think

need some advice.

>lacemarket
>sold skirt that has the word "black" in the print name
>in the listing, i clearly write "in DARK PINK"
>proof photos CLEARLY show that my skirt is dark pink, not black
>buyer left positive feedback
>but feedback comments as good as a neutral/negative
>buyer claimed i falsely advertised the skirt as black, and that the skirt sizing was smaller than i had listed
>message buyer asking about it
>she insisted that i gave inaccurate information about the sizing
>as for the colourway issue she said "i understand" but did nothing to rectify the feedback
>i'm pissed, but i asked as politely as possible, if she would change her feedback, because i did not lie about the skirt at all. i explained the misunderstanding as nicely as possible
>she replied insisting that the skirt was too small
>i told her, if that's the case please measure it
>one month passed, nothing from her
>i sent a new message, explaining that even if she doesn't get back to me, i do intend to leave her feedback, and i would state her post-sales communication wasn't good

>she finally replies today
>turns out the skirt is 3cm smaller than what i listed according to her measurements
>my mind is thinking wtf fucking 3cm and she left such shit feedback
>but i forgot to state in my sales terms to allow ~3cm human error in measurements for this specific skirt sale
>my ass isn't covered

how should i proceed? i'm pissed, but even if she doesn't want to change the feedback, i still want MY side of the story on the feedback page. i feel like this is so unfair. if she had asked me for a partial refund before leaving feedback, i would have gladly done it to shut her mouth over the 3cm error and her lack of reading comprehension. but she left feedback without even telling me which really pissed me off.

i'm refraining myself from lashing out at her, and i still want to be as polite and courteous to her as possible.

>>7831616
I would get a mod involved, personally. It's obvious that you did nothing wrong and this girl is being sandy, but I think that would be the best way to proceed at this point since the buyer obviously doesn't want to change her feedback.

>>7831616

Are the feedback on lacemarket changeable? I thought someone once came on here needing mod intervention to delete a feedback or something.

Anyway, personally I'm not really sure a mod would be willing to get into the thick of things listening to two girls argue online about a skirt she can't see in person, although it might be a good idea to contact one first and see if there's something else you should be doing.

As for leaving her feedback, if you stick to the facts (ie- buyer thought skirt was dark pink even though photos and description states otherwise, complained about 3cm measurement discrepency and left unfavorable feedback without communicating first), and then follow up with whether or not other parts of the transaction went all right (eg- whether she paid on time or answered shipping/address questions quickly), then there's very little that the buyer can complain about, since it's all factual.

>>7831646

*buyer thought skirt was NOT dark pink

Not sure if this is the place to ask this or not, but what the hey. I have more clothes than I'll ever wear and am kind of low on cash atm, so I've been thinking about selling some of my lolita stuff. However, I've never sold anything online before and I'm terrified that I'll get a dishonest buyer and be left with neither cash nor clothes. I know you can pay extra for shipping that the other peson has to sign for so that they can't claim they didn't get their stuff, but is there anything else I can do to protect myself as a buyer? Also, where do you prefer to sell your stuff and why - on cgl, lacemarket, comm sales or LSE?

>>7830327
I was expecting to love this but I don't. Oh well. More money for other things!

Is there any indication that they will also be selling those boots on the right?

>>7831784
Same. I really want those socks and the boots on the right though

>>7831722
Never sell without a tracking number and/or signed confirmation. It comes in handy if people try to claim they never got their packages.
Also, be very clear in your sales terms and conditions. Be sure to put in the proper disclaimers (such as once its in the mail you're not responsible etc)

>>7830326
What colorways/cuts are you guys more partial to? I'm thinking the green underbust myself.

Beginner here. Is there a 'best time' to buy? Like do stores do seasonal sales around certain times such as Christmas, New Years, etc?

>>7831884
New years for sure

anybody got some tips for tying waist-ties/corset lacing? do you just do that before you actually put the dress on to get it just right?

>>7831884

You've actually just missed the bulk of summer sales. There's still some stuff left on btssb, IW and Meta (AP took their sales off their site already) if you want to buy now. The secondhand prices on yja and mbok are starting to come back up as well, they'll probably be higher next month.

Next sales period will be around New Year's, as other anon says. There'll be more special sets/lucky packs around then as well, as AP and btssb tend to put out like five or six different LPs eachs.

For taobao stuff, there's no difference; I know some taobao brands release lucky packs but they don't seem to follow any kind of season, and I've rarely seen taobao brands do a sale. Just avoid the Chinese holidays because the entire country including the shop, the post and your SS will take off and stop responding to you.

>>7831922

I haven't worked out corset ties. Just have to live with them not being 100% perfect unless my lolita friend is around to help out.

Waist ties, if you have a lot of trouble with it, get a big clothespin. Begin the first this-over-that part of the knot, then put the clothespin where you want the bow and adjust until the clothespin look centred on your back. Take the bow off at the waist buttons, lay it out in front of you, tie your bow, remove the clothespin, then button it back.

>>7830327
Damn I love that bluish-green colorway

>>7827081
>>7826941
>>7826861
I don't really understand boobloaf either.. I am fairly flat chested and it just seem kinda inevitable in lolita dresses
>>7827231
How is this snotty? She's helping people by taking mistakes off their hands, at the same time educating newbies without shaming actual people wearing the dresses. Maybe you shouldn't buy from milanoo so much if this hurts your feelings.

>>7831722
I like lacemarket. My transactions have all been pretty good. Comm sales take too long to get approved. I actually like selling on cgl because it's quick and fast. If you are a new seller though I would go with lacemarket or comm sales to build up some feedback.

If you haven't, get a scale for weighing small packages. You can use paypal to pay for and print postage, and you get free tracking that way. Also check your items for flaws and list all of them.

Okay, this question is more for the casual lolitas/otome peeps in the house. How do you wear one of AP's like 4 button skirts without looking a little pregnant?

>>7832061
protip: you cant

>>7832061
>don't have a big gut
>don't wear a horribly unflattering top like the girl in that picture
Tadaa!

>>7827231
>obviously a sandy cunt
>ashamed of all the replicas in their closet

>>7832061
y-y-you think that looks pregnant?

d-do you not know what pregnant women look like?

>>7832086
>>7832107
Uh, I'm pretty thin, but the button area creates a slant, sort of creates a little belly where there isn't one. So if you're already thin, you look maybe 2-4 months pregnant. I've seen similar talk when it comes to skirts like these

>>7832061
Have good posture.

>>7832061
Don't be pear or apple shaped, instead have small hips and thighs. Have a flat stomach.

What do you all think is going to happen to the western lolita community with EGL continuing to die? Awhile ago, some people proposed creating a forum "in case LJ becomes unusuable" and at that time I opposed it, but now I wonder if maybe it wouldn't be best. Younger people just do not want to use LJ. Or would that not have solved anything? Is the community just doomed to be scattered across cgl, Facebook and Tumblr with no central hub of discussion?
>still pissed lacebook dug its own grave so rapidly

>>7832107
Do YOU know what pregnant women look like? You don't even get that big till the very end

>>7832151
To be fair, I'm the OP of that question. I should have clarified that I don't think the girl in the photo herself looks pregnant. It's not flattering, sure, but it was the first picture I found of that skirt. Also an example of it not being flattering, I guess.

I just ordered my first JSK, Bodylines Squirrel Party in Sax, something simple, just to see if I like the Lolita look on myself, but I have no idea what else to wear with it, I have petticoats already, but I'm clueless on shoes, blouses, accessories and wigs ect.

>>7832225
well, sweet lolita isn't rocket science, basically you want to pick a color theme and stick with it for almost everything. It doesn't have to be the color of the dress, but that's a good start. So sax, or squirrel party has some pink in the print, so you could pick pink as well. Just buy a bunch of stuff in that color. Sax shoes, sax headbow, sax blouse (white or pink is fine here too) sax purse. Legwear can be sax or something like white tights or white ankle socks. And for the wig, a lot of new lolitas are attracted to fun colors but you can't go wrong with a natural color, like blonde, brown, black or red. If you do want a fun color, I would get something that mixes your theme color with another color, instead of just straight up going with the theme color. So like sax and brown, or even sax and lavender though it's riskier.

The biggest trick is to not mix in a lot of colors. I wouldn't even try to make a coord with 3 colors (not including small accents, like lettering on socks) until you've made a few other successful coords. The more you repeat 1 or 2 colors the better.

>>7832251
Thank you so much!! This is a lot of help :) I'll be sure to take on everything you've said hopefully I turn out looking at least halfway presentable

>>7832266
Sure! I know bodyline has a lot of sax stuff so hopefully you can find some good stuff. Also, I said don't do 3 colors, but that sounds a little strict I don't think white counts as a color and sometimes wigs or small accessories are okay. I just see a lot of newbies do stuff like accessorize a skirt that has green, red, pink, yellow, blue in it with like, red shoes, a pink purse, a yellow head bow, blue tights etc it's very messy. Some white tights with a pink and sax coord is fine though.

>>7832061
Wear them on your hips, so the waistband follows the hip curve rather than creating a belly pooch

>>7832285
Just curious, doesn't that make them too low? It also seems counter intuitive to the design and like it would lengthen the line of the torso.

>>7832141
I'd love something central and self-policed like Lacebook but I don't really see it happening. Tumblr is nice for pictures but nothing else, /cgl/ is anon and Facebook is full of clueless itas. Mine is, at least. None of the more experienced girls post there anymore.

I wish something more central and self-policed like Lacebook would pop up again. Except instead of the friend-of-a-friend invitation system it would have something like an honor system where you can only post outside of the newbie areas after accumulating a certain number of 'likes' or whatever. Like there would be a Q&A forum and a OOTD forum for people to ask/answer questions and post their own pictures, and when enough people appreciate your contributions you can join the rest of the community.
Probably wouldn't work, though. Also it's far too ~elitist~.

>>7832325
>something central and self-policed like Lacebook x2
I need to proofread my posts better.

>>7832301
Not really,I always thought they were for low waist/high hip..

>>7831305
Yeah, I agree that it seems Haenuli was going for that look. I actually like it a lot because it reminds me of The Last Unicorn.

>>7832141
If I was just a little better at coding, I would love to make something like Lacebook. I remember when this conversation first popped up and I ended up imagining all the features the website could have.
> Customizable profile with stickers and fonts like IMVU + scenekids dot com. About Me, Style Inspiration, Hobbies / Interests, links to other social media, etc.
> Gallery / portfolio similar to Lookbook where you can post outfit shots, with Lolibrary integration so you can tag the brand & name of all the different items in your coord. Maybe even an app for this so you could upload from your phone?
> Wardrobe gallery like Poupee Girl, earn virtual currency to buy stickers
> Forum sections like beginners area, local forums (which can be moderated & created by people who live in those areas), lifestyle section, tutorial forum, a forum for each brand, etc.
> "Subscribe" to different brands so you can get immediate updates when they announce a release
> Friends list, private messaging, etc. Can comment on people's pages, like & comment their outfit shots, etc.
> News feed where you can make status or promote (reblog) other peoples OOTD so your friends see them too.
> WTB feature where you can list prints / items you're looking to buy. Selling section with Lacemarket integration.
There's probably more I could think of, too. I just don't want to get my hopes up, I suppose.
I just think the more features the "hub" would have, the more people would be drawn to it. Integrating it with other popular websites would also affirm its status as a nexus of sorts.

>>7832301
>>7832330
Yeah, I wear these low hip...

>>7832330
I'm not sure, dude. Looks pretty awkward.

>>7832388
Forgot to add:
> Search outfit gallery by brand, print, or specific item. So you can see all the outfits with any cut Milky Berry in pink, only the halter JSK but in any color, or just the OP in white.
Sage because my imagination is going overboard here.

>>7832325
I like your ideas. I don't think it really needs a bar to entry, I think a moderation system like egl is fine. A lot of people think it is either too lenient or too strict, but I thought it was fine and even if it did lean one way or the other, that is not the reason it failed, and it more or less kept it from being a complete ita fest like facebook is.
>>7832388
If it had a ton of stuff like that, no doubt everyone would use it. Lacebook already had enough functionality to be attractive, I think it would have suceeded if not for all the barriers to entry they imposed.
I wish I knew any coding but I don't even know where to start. What code would a site like that be in?

>>7832393
I think it's just the girl wearing it

>>7832393
Putting myself out here, what do you think of this? It's not the best shape but I don't think it looks super awkward, do you?
A sweater that covers the top part could be cute but then you might get long torso problem.

>>7832325
I had pretty similar idea to yours a while ago actually, I just wouldn't know where to start with it all..

>>7832421
No, that looks pretty! Granted, I think this skirt is a little more flattering than the button designs, but it still has that shape and you made it look good!

>>7832472
Thank you! I never thought about it but it really is kind of an awkward shape. I also have the polkadot chocolate mini. It has that four button design, but I think it flares out a little different then the ones you posted. I usually wear long shirts over it.

>>7832421
This is how they look on me. Not awkward like the picture in chess chocolate above. I think it also has to do with body shape. I have a defined waist, I'm not all rectangled shaped in the torso like that girl seems to be. Or maybe its how she coords it? Idk

>>7832393
Eww that mirror, she needs to clean it before putting photos online.

>>7832501
Maybe. I have a defined waist and am hippy so these seem to fit my body type okay. And I wear a small petti so it flares out more, that would prevent the boxy shape too. I wonder if she could adjust it, if it has shirring or if that's just how it falls on her. Shirring would really help

>>7831049
No, deets?

>>7832401
I'm not sure, which is the biggest issue. I'm fine with making websites, graphics, and interfaces on their own, but once it gets down to having users interact with the website and the server storing all that information to display to other people, that's where I get lost. I've taken several courses on website design and coding, but they've only covered how to build and display what you like, not necessarily make an interactive platform. I'd assume it would have to do a lot with variables and of course Javascript.
I wish I knew just a little more, even just enough where I might accidentally figure out how to do it.

>>7832325
Maybe Lolibary could add a forum to its site?

>>7832393
This looks bad because the girl wearing it has hips that go straight down rather than flare out.
At least the skirt matches the toilet cover?

Hey gulls
I'm ashamed to admit it, but my only petticoats atm are Halloween costume-tier and I think it's time to invest in a good petti.
Where do you get yours? Does Classical Puppets live up to the hype?

>>7832393
Because the person wearing it doesn't have hips, either that or doesn't have a waist

>>7832501
>>7832511
I definitely think it's a waist-hip ratio thing.You've got to have a decent amount of curve

>>7832667
Classical Puppets is really good, and I also recommend Malco Modes (specifically the 580 and 582)

>>7832667
i recently got Dear Celine's petticoat and it's pretty god-tier

>>7832676
>>7832600
>>7832511
>>7832501
>>7832421
>>7832391
Okay, thanks for all your help anons! Unfortunately my waist doesn't dip in that much, though I do have decent hips. I'm a thin pear. Ah, well! This still helped me a lot

>>7832667
I have a pretty solid collection of Pettis so I'll give you my rundown (on phone so excuse any terrible typos!)

>AP petti from Dream Fantasy LP
My go to cupcake petti, has kept up the poof and is the perfect length for almost all of my dresses that need a cupcake shape for any brand I have
>CP bell petti
This used to be my main petti until I got the AP one. It has a great shape and poof, but the lining is annoying and wrinkles and rides up pretty easily when worn, also a touch longer than my ap one so I can't use it with as many dresses
>Dear Celine frothy petti
My first cupcake petti which I loved but deflated and sits lumpy under a dress now, took about a year for this to happen. I have another embroidered cupcake petti from them as well but the poof is mediocre even though its really pretty, but I hardly wear it
>IW light pannier
This is a very light petti I use for layering that I really love and use it over my AP or CP Pettis to just give a bit more smooth shape
>malco modes 582
I have only worn this once because I never altered it but it was a nice petti for a tea length a-line look
>baby long, light pannier
I use this with empire waisted, shorter sweet dresses like dream sky, give a light poof and doesn't slip down when I wear it above my waist, works really well with the built in petti with dream sky, misty sky, etc
>cp daily a-line
Unusable, bought new via ss from CP and constantly the tiers separate, it smells weird even after washing, and the material is lumpy and never relaxed even after light steaming and hanging, I need to trash it
>cp explosive a-line
Also has problems with holes but not as bad, is too much poof for most of my skirts, but gives a perfect 'stock' looking a-line poof. I wear it with my fully princess seamed a-line dresses. This thing is a fucking monster
>Victorian Girl dress eBay petti
I used to wear this all the time, it gives a decent bell shape but is in reality more of an a-line, good for price

>>7832721

One more suggestion -- try sticking a petti underneath it so the petti gives the skirt the "hip" shape instead? You could try with an existing petti before committing to buying a short petti just for the miniskirt

>>7832388
This basically sounds like a gaia/avatar based forum with enhanced search filters/tagging + powerful profile page options. Shit, I'd definitely contribute art to this if someone were to start building it.

>>7832757
This is really helpful anon.

>>7832757
I didn't even know that the AP LP had a petticoat!

Would you say the Victorian Girl dress one would be good for layering? I have a One Day In Paradise one and while it's great on its own I would like to experiment with more poof.

>>7833485
Diff anon but it layers fine

>>7833485
I have both the pettis you mention and the answer is yes, works good!

>>7832225
Actually, Bodyline's sax colours often don't match up well so my personal suggestion would be white blouse and legwear with pink shoes and pink and blue accessories.

>>7832706 >>7832713
Thank you!
>>7832757
Holy helpful. Thank you soo much.

>>7831784

Seems like it. Price and name are listed there. Heart and diamond ribbon short boots. 18,900 yen

In my opinion lolita is also about mindset and personality, and if you're not a virgin then you should please just stop, because this hobby isn't for disgusting sluts

Thank you c:

>>7833555

Hey cgl I will be possibly having breast reduction surgery later this year. Have any of you undergone this procedure? Was it worth it?
Also any way I can fix my boobloaf in lolita for the time being? Its pretty bad. I wear sports bras/minimisers but wondering if there is anything else I can do? I dont like binding. Currently trying to lose weight so I can have a smaller back which will help the dresses fit better. Ive gone to the doctor already and he actually told me not to bother with losing weight as my breasts are composed of completely tissue but Im ignoring him...

>>7833578
Hey anon, I didn't have this procedure done but two friends have and they felt immensely better afterwards in terms of back pain. I hope it goes well for you. No advice on boobloaf as I have small boobs but I hope someone else can give you some pointers.

>>7833578
hey anon, I had the procedure done when I was in high school, before I went on birth control. I'm thinking about having a second reduction early next year since after I went on the pill, they swelled up again.

this is what I remember from my surgery:
- upon waking up, it felt like a car had parked on my chest
- everything will be sore for about a week. if you can have someone take care of you for that week, it'll help a lot
- my first shower after my surgery was very disorientating
- your breasts will be swollen after surgery, and they will actually be a little smaller after healing

things I would do differently this second time around:
- get down to my goal weight before surgery
- make sure I'm *very* comfortable with my doctor/shop around (my doctor the first time was recommended by a nurse at my pediatrician's office, but he was the only person my mom and I consulted, and I feel like at the time he didn't really listen to me. I was only 17 at the time so I blindly trusted him and the recommendations of the nurse)

good luck anon!

>>7833478
At one time I had an avatar (gaia-like) website. I started adding lolita things to it but I got too busy IRL to do much with it and it became a huge project I couldn't undertake by myself. I'm not sure if I could really get the code I used since I had a programmer but that was his contribution to the project... at least without heavily compensating money-wise. And who knows how long the project would actually last seeing as how quickly lolita forums just kind of bite the dust in favor of /cgl/.

>>7832757
Would you mind providing pics of the regular CP A-line? Looking for something for my super poofy touhou cosplays.

>>7832572
Idk, apparently someone called it "costume lolita" and shit hit the fan. At least that's what I've gathered

>>7832933
Not that anon, but can you recommend a short petti?

>>7832757
>baby long, light pannier
I-Is this no longer available? It sounds like exactly what I need.

How do you coordinate blonde hair into darker outfits? The colors I usually wear are classic wine, black, and navy.

Dark colored wigs don't suit my face at all but I feel like they match darker color dresses better.

>>7833938
I'd understand if people disagree with me but I absolutely love gothic, especially all black, outfits with blonde hair where there's no hint of it anywhere else, but gold accessories can help accentuate and balance out the hair.

>>7833954

I guess what it is for me is that I want to stay with the classic look and not end up looking goth.

>>7831995
>>7831722
I'm seconding both lace market and here on /cgl/. While I've never sold, only bought, I have literally never had a bad experience - despite my nervousness at first about the possibility of a flaky seller, everyone has been super nice. As suggested, just make sure to ship with tracking - the vast majority of buyers will want tracking, and be wary of anyone who wants you to ship without it.

>>7833963
Not everyone that doesn't want tracking is shady. I don't want to use EMS to avoid having to pay custom fees, which get pretty high in my country. I only take it when buying from other EU sellers

>>7833975
Ah, that's true. I'm a USfag so I've never had to worry about customs. Sorry, anon. You have my sympathies.

>>7833892

http://angelicpretty-onlineshop.com/products/detail.php?product_id=288

Sorry it's burando, I'm still searching for a ready-made version that's only 36cm long.

>>7833959
If your outfit and makeup are classic, then your hair color isn't going to change that. I really don't understand what your asking. Don't wear dark/heavy makeup and you won't look gothic unless your coordinate is gothic. Simple as that

>>7834114

Maybe its just me but I find that blond hair doesn't go very well with dark classic colours. I am wondering how to make blonde hair match better. Would wearing white stockings or socks help?

Semi-newfag here. I've ordered from my-lolita-dress before but my stuff has always shipped within a day or two. Ordered an Infanta JSK on the 12th, Linda contacted me a couple days later to say one of the accessories I'd chosen with it was out of stock, we did a partial refund, everything on that processed and was cool and she said my dress would ship within the week...still not shipped. Ugh.
Am I being super impatient or is Infanta being slow or what? I don't want to bother the crap out of Linda, but I'm nervous that shit's stalled or whatever and I want my dress and am worried about getting caught in postal hiatus for Chinese National Day.

(watch, with my luck it'll ship by the time I come back to check this thread later and I'll feel like a complete idiot)

>>7834130
Dif. Anon but I agree its just a hair color. If your really concerned, post pics of the wig and dress your trying to coord? If you do white socks:tights just make sure you also use a white blouse. What shade of blond are you using? How is it styled, etc?

>>7833892
Leg avenue. I bought one off of amazon and it provides a good amount of poof, but only goes to about mid-thigh.

Was the original Lotta skirt meant to come with a second, detachable bow? I never got one when I bought mine secondhand, but some other sellers seem to have one. It doesn't say anything on lolibrary or hellolace

>>7835249
Yes, there is a detachable bow

Who is Ai and why is she so popular? Is she a model?

>>7836037
She is the founder of a japan based international lolita group, they have a nice youtube channel, and she is also one of Misako's Lolita Ambassador. Too bad she isn't prettier, people would pay much more attention to her. She is trying to actually make lolitas from Japan connect with westerners, which is really difficult, and I ike her for that.

>>7836042
She was a leader of a club at a university, her Youtube channel is mostly her cooing over kawaii stuff, and she isn't listed as being an ambassador of JLA.

>>7836048
Oh I though I saw her name on JLA, my bad. Well she does organize kind of big events and try hard to make the international lolita group happens, it's not just a club thing. And her youtube channel is kind of like kawai.i or kawaii pateen from what I've seen, with kind of like small talk shows you know.

>>7836050
What's her YouTube channel? I don't think I've heard of her before.

>>7836037
She's really nice and interesting.

Have you ordered from fururun before? I just put through an order but haven't received a confirmation email yet.

Does anyone know how long it takes for special orders placed through Baby SF store to arrive in the US? I ordered on Sept 4 and haven't heard from them since. I already paid.

Does anyone has experience with Fanplusfriend?

>>7833938
Look at Exo China anon.

>>7836310
Yup, give them a few days. I think it's a one person show

>>7832388
I'd love to do something like that. It's probably too much work for one person to code and maintain, but I'd totally contribute if someone could get together a team.

>>7836951
*exo chica
from aural vampire

>>7836489

I reserved one of their coats from the new coat collection and haven't heard anything back either. I am assuming they are just getting a ton of reservations and such right now?

Is it ok to post loli-inspired outfits on tumblr?
I mean, I wear some of my dresses as sundresses and some brand blouses with offbrand (but elaborate) pants or shorts. I don't tag those outfits as lolita and I don't intend them to be. But I wear this kind of outfit so often I'm afraid my followers are going to start calling me ita.
Am I too paranoid? If I'm not, to what point should I care?

>>7837522
Tag em as lolita. fuck it.

I mean what I would do is just post that it's clearly NOT lolita, but using your lolita dresses. you should feel free to tag a fucking lolita dress as lolita, even if it isnt in the traditional lolita silhouette.

>>7837522
I disagree with >>7837552. Tagging as lolita implies the outfit is lolita, and as you've already discovered there are very few lolita dresses that are *only* good for lolita. Tag them as outfit of the day or something.

>>7837557
I kind of like it when I see some lolita dresses worked into different styles. I rarely ever actually check specific brands (which is another good way to go about it) But often search lolita / lolita fashion.

God knows there are so many shitty attempts on tumblr *trying* to follow the traditional lolita silhouette, I wouldn't mind seeing some cutely coordinated every day outfits using lolita dresses/accessories

>>7837522
If you want people to see it but not tag it lolita, tag it with the brand name maybe?

>>7837577
>>7837552
Then we should have a 'lolita brands' tag. Tagging not lolita is stupid and it seems lazy that you'd care more about finding stuff in your leisure and giving tumblr tards more reason to call people in actual lolita 'elitist brandwhores' than to take 2 seconds to look through another tag.

>>7837579
I always list what I'm wearing on the tags so I already do that.
I keep my tumblr as a record of my personal style (the good and the bad, lol) so I'm not concerned with notes. I just don't want to be seen as that speshul snowflake who wears her brand in a ~totally new substyle~.

>>7837606
Wearing brand in normal outfits is not a new substyle. I don't think I've ever seen a picture like that and thought "wow she's really up her own ass". You're just wearing the clothes you spent hundreds of dollars on in a regular way.

Now if you were to suddenly come up with some shit like the magical girl lolita thing or GAMER GURL LOLITA that would be trying to start your own substyle.

>>7837584
i think the 'lolita fashion' and 'egl' tags are best for lolita

>>7837615
egl isn't supposed to be a general term for all of lolita fashion though. It's a term specifically coined from Mana for his brand. I guess could see someone tagging gothic with egl even if they aren't wearing mmm

>>7837522
If you're not wearing it as a certain style, you should not tag it as that style. Just stick with brand names. Usually people look through sub style tags for ita pictures and not specific brand names.

Do you have an example of one of these outfits? If it's a cute outfit it won't matter at all.

Who would even think of asking something like this?
Also, is the BST thread gone, or am I just blind?

>>7837357
It's actually Exo-Chika

>>7837606

I do this as well (tag my outfits with the brand tags), I don't tag my outfits as lolita or any substyle unless I'm pretty sure it fits that style.

So far as I can figure, some people go through the style tags (lolita, otome) to find the itas and snowflakes to post to the ita/nitpick threads. So I pretty much avoid the specific style tags.


>>7837670

Probably named after the egl comm on livejournal (which, I know, was misnamed by the founder).

Personally I'm very much for adopting that tag for our own use (sorry, mana). It avoids a lot of the confusion with lolicon while weeding out the speshul snowflakes who didn't research it beyond "lolita" style. You can really see the difference if you go through both tags on tumblr, the quality of the egl tag is like a million times better.

>>7837884
What was she trying to get for that crap?

>>7837949
I think like JetJ dresses or something

>>7837952
Damn I'd be surprise if she can trade all that junk for a jetj tag

>>7837884
It's here
>>7834940
Not sure why so many threads are started without titles, it's a bitch to find shit in the catalog when it happens.

Noobish question here, do you girls wear these style of jsks with a petti?
I just got my first lolita piece and its one of these babydoll jsks from an older release with not as much fabric in the skirt part as say the 2012 release and a petti looks really weird underneath it. Plus I can't figure out if I'm supposed to put the petti at my natural waist or under the empire waist.

>>7838014
Personally I'd go with a low poof a-line with these. Where I wear the petti is dependent on how long the petti is, but generally I'd adjust it so the lower part of the petti is around 5-10cm above the hemline. Try the Malco Modes 582?

>>7838000
There was one before that that was no where near close to autosaging, though. I assume it just saged off the map?
Also, yeah, people suck at making threads, it seems.

This group is so fucking stupid, I'm done.

>>7827226
that link brings up the main page

>>7838036
ah that might work. I have a CP monster poof one that just makes it look really awkward. I'll look into getting the Malco Modes. Thank you!

>>7837522
don't tag it #lolita fashion because people will bitch (see this thread), but tag it as like #ootd, #lolita inspired, #whatever brand name, #otome, etc. etc.
>inb4 otome not casual rorita!!!!1
i know but fucking close enough and ita threads usually don't get filled with otome shit

>>7838048
Yeah, it saged off into the sunset. I think it may have been derailed toward the end.

Everyone always wants to make their own specific lolita forum, but why not simply try to start up on another site? Even if it isn't popular, if a significant number of lolitas flock to it, everyone will eventually go there. I only suggest it because all of the other sites get so much work into them only to fail so far, so maybe we should just try to go elsewhere?

you guys what if we took myspace it would be like 2004 again

Hey guys, my mum bought me a couple of v-cut cardigans in pretty cute colours, so I was hoping to repurpose them into something loliable.

Does anyone have any tips or links or tutorials even on how to go about this? I have a sewing machine on hand so any suggestions would be helpful.

>>7838201
We could take myspace actually...
Each of cgl and egl and CoF are on non lolita specific sites. Im not sure why lolitas need our own special networking site but it would be a lot of effort for very little personal gain so I dont know if any developers would actually want to bother it.
Why did EGL even die anyway?

>>7838210
just uh, wear it like that? unbutton the bottom and throw it over a jsk or op.

jazz it up and maybe try to find some fabric in a similar color/knit. Make a couple bows to pin onto it. Tacking lace onto the cardi might just make it look cheaper rather than cute? just accessorize it well and it should go alright with some coords

>>7838221
Oh no, I wasn't really thinking lace, maybe just making the collar a bit less 'v-necky' and chopping off a bit from the bottom? (And then I could use that fabric to make some bows to put on the end of the sleeves or something.)

>>7838215
Because LJ is a shitty platform, at least imo. When compared to other sites, it's pretty fucking confusing. I've had one for several years, and I'm pretty savvy with figuring out accounts, but LJ just doesn't work for me at all. It is not user friendly, and it takes forever to get used to as a platform. It even randomly switches my account to Japanese options sometimes, so I literally can't navigate it. I only use it now to look at btb and egl sales. I hate LJ as a site with seething hatred actually.

I think most people under ~20 or who got into the lolita game late generally agree on this.

I don't even know what myspace accounts look like anymore, so idk if they are user friendly, but I'm sure there is some site out there that lolitas could flock to and create communities in.

>>7838237
Oh so the language features switch for others too? Mine changed to spanish so it was no biggie as I can understand spanish reasonably well. I am going to set up a myspace now just to have a look at the options to see if its feasible for a new comm

>>7838243
looks like myspace will be crap, it is a music sharing site x social network now. If lolita was a musical genre it would be fine but as it stands... no...

>>7838248
What a shame. Profiles used to be so easy to customize and it was way more user friendly than FB. I would love a social media platform dedicated to J-fashion--even if the weebs invaded,

>>7838237
I completely agree that LJ is a rotten platform with terrifyingly shit UX. However, it's really interesting that no other platform has come close to having a community focused system (facebook is a fucking joke) as much as LJ was back when it was one of the top options.

For all the bullshit that tumblr harps about having "community" it's more of a massive circlejerk rather than a forum where people can gather and actually have proper discussions and debates. /cgl/ is seriously the closest thing I've found after exploring all other options.

>>7838269
Yeah, I feel the same way. I love Tumblr for personal blogging purposes and maybe insp for fashion but for discussions and advice, cgl has been the best resource by far.

>>7827226
I have a DreamV poncho and it is great quality and very warm! Go for it. Mine is made out of the same materials as that coat, including the fur, and it is incredibly soft.

>>7838248
VK now has an English version, though it's basically just the Russian equivalent of Facebook so I don't know if it would necessarily be an improvement.
This wikipedia page - wikipedia DOT org / wiki / List_of_social_networking_websites - reminded me of Bebo, but it looks like they've shut down. I'll continue to scour through the links if any anons want to join in.

>>7838233

Knit fabrics sometimes unravel when you cut them, especially specific types of socks, pullovers and cardigans (I know, your t-shirt doesn't unravel, but that's a diferent type of knit fabric). Last time I tried it the result was an uneven hem that wouldn't lie flat no matter what I did, so I particularly recommend against cutting it up.

I'd go with embellishing them with a ribbon or some beads to match your existing dresses, but nothing more major than that.

Remember to take out your existing clothes, pair up the cardis with an existing skirt or dress, then plan your embellishments from there. Nothing like spending a lot of time adding a lot of bows to a cardigan only to find you've just transformed a simple wearable cardi into something that doesn't match anything in your wardrobe.

>>7838243
YEAH IT SWITCHES ALL THE TIME I ALWAYS HAVE TO CHANGE IT IT MAKES ME SO MAD. I'm glad someone else experiences it too tho.

>>7838248
>>7838268
I hope we can grab something that will work. We could go through the lists of unfamiliar sites, make accounts, and see if they are worthy of hosting a new community.

>>7838269
>>7838275
Yeah, I love Tumblr, but I can't keep up with things. Dash isn't the same as notifications, and it's not really social in the normal sense like FB or etc. CGL is pretty great, but sometimes I just fucking hate anon as an option which is why I want another comm.

>>7838287
Here's some that I found, some look promising others not so much.
> Ning - Looks to be a social network hosting website, similar to freeforums
> Vampirefreaks - Has a groups option, doesn't look to be as active as it used to be
> Scenekids DOT com SLASH network - Lists a bunch of sites with the same features and under the same ownership.
> Weibo - Used by Chinese lolis, I think it has an English version
> Hi5 - Under maintenance right now so I can't really check it out
> Nexopia, Sonico, Poolwo, Faceparty - Generic but dead social media with lackluster features

>>7832579
Sounds like you need to learn backend development instead of just frontend which is infinitely more complicated because you need to integrate with a CMS, do databasing, consider security, consider a framework, how to make calls to the database, how to optimise the site for the user base, etc.

>>7838312
>Actually recommending VF
No anon, that place is shit now, all the best things about it are dead, and have been dead for years.

If someone was going to make a new lolita comm what should it be called?

Lolicom?

>>7838356
Hah, it never really was good to begin with, but if it's a shit site now then that means there will be less people in it.
What about it has gone to shit though? Haven't been on since my scene days.

>>7838383
What would be good features about it?
>>7838380
I see what you did there.

>>7838380
No, we don't need any more association with that kind of stuff. Just name it something normal and respectable so that we won't facepalm over it a few years from now.

>>7838387
Profiles, friends lists, ability to create groups.
Obviously it's not ideal, but it's bare-bones stuff that would let us at least gather a community together.
If we're going the takeover route instead of creating our own platform, that will be something we'll have to deal with.

>>7838397
I was considering making a .webs page. I need a name for it though and lolicom is less than helpful haha

>>7838401
Hm, the easiest one would be lolitafashion I guess, but there's already a .org website with the same name.

>>7838401
>>7838407
japaneselolitafashion? thelolitafashion? frillville? rufflebuttsociety? lolitafashionsociety? rufflesfrillsandlace?

>>7838422
In addition, lolitafashionsociety i think is the best. Or frillville. I think that's pretty fucking cool, but that's probably just because i got it off the top of my head.

Anyone know the name of this print? Its supposed to be innocent world?

Outside of lolita what hobbies do you have?
Is it different than the stock standard lolita hobbies?

>>7838422
frillville is great.

>>7838210
Three seconds of google gave me this:
>http://blog.twowholecakes.com/2008/11/tutorial-defrumpifying-a-cardigan/
Never tried it myself, but it should definitely be possible.

>>7838221
As someone who owns a shit ton of cardigans just like the one in that picture... no. It doesn't work. Believe me, I've tried. They look absolutely terrible with lolita and ruin the silhouette since they're too long, too baggy in the waist and have a neckline that doesn't work with lolita cuts at all. The neckline can be spruced up but the length and bagginess is a dealbreaker lolita-wise.
I love my cardigans but I'll only wear them with otome or frumpyprivateschoolgirl/librarianwhogivesnofucks-kei.

>>7838533
What do you consider "standard lolita hobbies?" I honestly think there's no such thing, reading, baking and crafts are something that you could consider "lolita hobbies", but all are really common interests.

>>7838526
I don't know the name, but the print on the dress definitely says "Innocent World". I suggest searching lolibrary

>>7838526
>>7838569
I'm fairly sure it's called 'Tea Time.' It's pretty old so I don't know if you'll find it in the archives.

>>7838287
I misread that as VF and now I'm having visions of hordes of lolita taking over VampireFreaks, but that may just be the fever talking.

>>7838312
>>7838356
>>7838383
>>7838397
Oh look my fever has developed the ability to post on 4chan!

(Honestly though I would absolutely love it if this would happen and, most importantly, work. It would be glorious.)

>>7838533
I collect and read 80's and 90's books about the advent of the internet. The more paranoid and crazy the better.

>>7838568
That is exactly what I consider standard lolita hobbies. I understand they are common hobbies outside of lolita also but there are many other hobbies in the world and I was wondering if anyone was into something a bit more unusual.

>>7838574
That's a brilliant hobby. How did you get into it anon? Thank you for sharing.

>>7838533
I don't know if it's unusual, but I'm into street photography. Of course I can usually only do it outside of lolita, because I can hardly be stealthy decked out in frills. It does make me kind of immune to people photographing me though, because I know I'd do the same.

>>7838567
Thanks anon, the only thing I could find when googling was the fyeahlolita sailor cardigan, which is fine, but not what I really want.
Your link was pretty helpful though! I guess just making it more fitted and shorter should help.

And I'm the same, I'm a shorty to start with (4'11''), so when I wear a cardigan it hits pretty much underneath my ass and it doesn't look great at all with a fluffy dress.

>>7838291
I wouldn't have thought to match it with my closet beforehand, so you've probably saved me some time and cardigans!

Are we autosaging?

>>7838611
Turns out we are. New thread: >>7838618

>>7836852
Hit or miss. Google some reviews. They can be a bit slow sometimes. Be wary of custom sizes.