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New ita thread, old is autosage.

>> No.7831318
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No words

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>> No.7831324

2nd, 4th and 5th.

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>>7831324
oops shit

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fucking peignoirs

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>>7831341

>> No.7831352

>>7831344
I almost seriously thought this was -that- ciel cosplay for a second from the thumbnail.

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step up yo' game guys, my eyes aren't burning yet.

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>>7831362

>> No.7831369

>>7831362
dear lord

>> No.7831386

>>7831365
The one on the right wouldn't be ita if the clothes were on a girl that fit them better.

It's not amazing, but it isn't bad.

>> No.7831387

>>7831315
I couldn't figure out what was on her head from the thumbnail. Handkerchief?

After clicking the pic, I still can't figure it out. Bad wig? Weird fringe?

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>>7831365

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>>7831389
>Cowboy Lolita Oufit #2

>> No.7831393

>>7831365
everything below belt on the right = love
everything above including the belt = no

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>>7831392
while we're at it, does anyone have the pic where the model was using a petticoat as a cape/poncho, or terrible 'shiro' lolitas with mismatched whites/shiny satin shit?

>> No.7831406

>>7831362
this. I just see nitpicks. its fucking pathetic.

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>>7831394
i just keep finding more, whut

>> No.7831428

>>7831341
Was this taken at an elementary school?

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>>7831428

>> No.7831441

>>7831432
lmao already done

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"Crown from disney shop"
literal plastic kids crown as hair accessory.

>> No.7831470

>>7831348
She's judging her so hard

>> No.7831472

>>7831452
Oh my glob this dress is huge it could fit like 2 or 3 me

>> No.7831479

>>7831406
Sorry about your low standards

>> No.7831480

>>7831409
WTF nothing matches. The top, the skirt, the tights. Nothing goes with anything else. This has to be a dress up for a joke, right?

>> No.7831481
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"Casual work loli. Made that skirt myself."

told her it wasn't lolita and explained the different shapes and styles politely, gave her some tips and feedback and she responds

"OMG YAY! I got my first hater! Thank you for taking time out of your meaningless and lackluster existence to tell me how horrifying my outfit is! Your mother must be very proud!"

the butthurt and denial is strong.

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>>7831481
>Thank you for taking time out of your meaningless and lackluster existence to tell me how horrifying my outfit is!

>"Have fun being laughed at, you bitter, sordid cunt!"

>> No.7831494

>>7831491
i like you

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wut

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>> No.7831569

>>7831335
Needs decent shoes, a decent wig and accessories. It still has hopes

>> No.7831595

>>7831506
A lolita with a sense of humor. Oh so offensive.

>> No.7831644

>>7831481
Tumblr I assume?

>> No.7831652

>>7831362
In the thumbmail, really looks like she's using a sombrero.

>> No.7831654

>>7831392
Thats kinda cute

>> No.7831661

>>7831514
i mean... well... she tried. big golden star for her. couldeve been worse, right???

>> No.7831671

>>7831406
she's wearing an ed hardy shirt, though?
that's even god awful if we're going by normal clothing standards

>> No.7831684

>>7831671
I don't think she was talking about that particular photo, though. I think any sane person would agree that it is god-awful.

>> No.7831685

>>7831684
yeah i reread it after i posted
i shouldn't post after just waking up

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what are this

>> No.7831745

>>7831315
What am I even looking at? Did she draw on her cleavage?

>> No.7831768

>>7831329
Dude?

>> No.7831770

>>7831481
>"OMG YAY! I got my first hater! Thank you for taking time out of your meaningless and lackluster existence to tell me how horrifying my outfit is! Your mother must be very proud!"
That response would make me hate her even if you did just flat out tell her she looked like shit and needed to stop trying. Jesus fuck.
I love it when ugly bitches without taste also have a rotten personality. It makes me feel less guilty about laughing at them.

>> No.7831772

>>7831387
My guess would be gross hair with a differently coloured fringe.

>>7831745
Looks like a necklace is disappearing down there.

>> No.7831773

>>7831481
>hater

In order to have haters you must have something to be jelly of. I hate when basic ass bitches use that word, and pretty much only those kinds of girls use it.

>> No.7831776

>>7831481
What's her tumblr?

>> No.7831782

>>7831329
That looks like Jimmy Fallon

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I had to color correct the pic, it still looks awful

>> No.7831790

>>7831514
The bottom half is fine, the top half makes me sad because she ruined the potential.

>> No.7831816

>>7831514
I actually like this. Not really ita, but needs work.

>> No.7831836

>>7831365
I think the right one is cute for a normalfag outfit, maybe with solid tights though.

>> No.7831846

>>7831392
Not gonna lie cowgirl lolita sounds pretty cute. And she's cute too.

>> No.7831850

>>7831514
Not the best but not ita.

>> No.7831854

>>7831783

> replace hat with cuter hat that matches

I don't know what else is bad about this. Looks like everything else is just a bad camera angle.

>> No.7831855

>>7831341
is that a doctors office

>> No.7831869

>>7831514
In theory, this outfit seems so good, is it her shape that fucks it up? That's really sad

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>>7831318
obligatory ita hugbox

>> No.7831881

There was that ita at Revelry. She stank so much. Girl, if you can afford brand, buy some deodorant too.

>> No.7831883

>>7831874
Ugh, rather than taking this criticism and using it to make better coords, she's just going to whine and pout and be the same ita she's always been. I can't stand people like that.

>> No.7831885

>>7831874
source of the blog?

>> No.7831887

>>7831481
>furfag
That explains a lot.
Oh and btw, her definition of "hater" is fucking hilarious.
Fat bitch needs to learn how to see and coord before she gets all fucking butthurt.

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>>7831887
*sew
And see too, cause that pattern on that "skirt" is fucking horrible.

>> No.7831898

>>7831885
....facebook? if you want her username just find her on CoF

>>7831883
especially because the criticism was legitimate, her coord was terrible

>> No.7831899

>>7831890
>"internet"
why the quotation marks, isnt the internet a real thing

>> No.7831905

>>7831898
I think they meant the hate tumblr referenced

>> No.7831908

>>7831905
oh! haha I have no idea, she didn't link it

>> No.7831910

>>7831392
I remember finding this coord back when I was just getting started with lolita because I wanted to find examples of beige/sax coords. Super weird seeing it now.

Still find it cute, though.

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>>7831315

>> No.7831928

>>7831327
Not ita.

>> No.7831940

>>7831874
link of the hate tumblr

>> No.7831947

>>7831940
Nastyfrills

>> No.7831951

>>7831947
>Nastyfrills
is prety new I think?

>> No.7831957

>>7831951
Looks like it was created in the past couple hours, actually

>> No.7831959

>>7831957
Oh I had no idea. I just found it.

>> No.7831960

>>7831481
lmao at her comm

>> No.7831970

>>7831452
It's a pity. With some work she could be a really cute lolita. She already seems to like pinks but oh god is she going in the wrong direction

>> No.7831987

>>7831874
I'm kind of siding with her. They probably don't take it as seriously as you do, just for fun. And the girls into this subculture usually aren't very confident, why put them further down?

>> No.7831998

>>7831947
haha awesome

>> No.7832000

>>7831987
I just don't really get some lolitas. If you dress lolita, especially sweet when you are out in public SOMEONE is going to make fun of you or make some stupid ass comment. They can handle that but not some random tumblr saying "hey your prop is stupid and you need a petti"?

>> No.7832015

>>7832000
Its different though. In lolita, your fellow lolitas are supposed to understand and support you (in theory) and everyone outside of lolita who is being a hater doesn't matter because they aren't like you (into lolita) and don't understand lolita.
Its like goths, they get loads of hate from the outside so they just go "Fuck you" but when its coming from one of your own, thats when it hurts.

Lolitas expect other lolitas to be their friends so it seems back-stabby when they get hate from one of their own.

Thats how I think it works anyway, its like if some random stranger said "You suck" you just move on like "He was an ass" but if your mom sits you down for a chat and outlines how you've fucked up and failed at everything in life, you take it to heart more.

>> No.7832020

>>7831394
This has a lot of potential, but it needs a better matching headdress unless she is trying to go for a "christmas angel" thing.. it's slightly too costumey. Also that leg is seriously disturbing. Shoop or just bad angle...?

>> No.7832024

>>7832015
Yeah I guess that makes sense.

>> No.7832025

>>7832000
it's because those people that can't take criticism usually don't look anything like lolita.
how often do you think >>7831481 was made fun of in the street because of her weird clothes? i'd say never, because no matter what she says, she's just wearing normalfag clothes.

>> No.7832030

>>7832015
See, I would agree with this, except I used to belong to an anime club comprised of screeching weebs and people with bad hygiene. Just because I also liked anime didn't mean I automatically considered them to be my friends, and I didn't really feel any sort of solidarity with them. I get what you're trying to say, but this is fashion. Bad taste is going to get called out and if somebody's feelings are hurt, tough shit. They can either try to improve or keep crying.

>> No.7832031

>>7832015
Lolitas have a public image they want to get away from. It's usually itas that reinforce the stereotypes, and so they end up being hit with bitterness accumulated from normalfag hate. Itas are not considered as lolita, just parodies of lolita.

>> No.7832033

>>7831392
Cute outfit, just don't call it lolita

>> No.7832036

>>7831481
the best ones are the ones that go
>YEAH WELL LOLITA IS ALT FASHION SO IT HAS NO RULES!!111

>> No.7832037

>>7832015
Having things in common, especially just on the internet doesn't make someone part of your super secret hugbox club, people need to understand that. I'm not your friend, lolita isn't my armor, I have friends, I know lolitas and I have lolitas as friends, they're not all automatically the same.

>> No.7832039

>>7831987
>dress like a Victorian freak/Katy Perry's wardrobe threw up
>not very confidant

Not completely disagreeing though.
Is it because they see all these girls with well put together coords receiving tons of compliments and notes, so they equate the fashion with hopefully boosting their self esteem? And when they throw on something that doesn't quite match the aesthetic and recieve constructive criticism, the back lash is their misdirected anger? Basically "Where are my likes? Where are my compliments? You guys suck! You're just obviously jealous!" *

I will admit my first attempts at lolita were fugly as shit. Hell, only a year ago I threw on a semi-decent outfit, but my hair and accessories threw it deep into ita territory. Y'all gave me awesome advice and I ran with it. I had (still kinda have) low self esteem, but not once did I call you guys haters or jealous bitches or any standard "can't take criticism" response.

I just don't understand these girls. Especially the ones who say we're all elitist bitches and rules aren't suppose to be enforced. It's a niche fashion; there are rules to make it so. If there weren't, it wouldn't be called lolita.

*throwing in even more ancidotal shit. Growing up, I was told this. "Oh they don't like you? Oh they're just jealous! You're so pretty! They've obviously have issues."
I could go on, but it basically boiled down to "it's not you, it's THEM". I heard that a lot from my mother and my family. Needless to say it was a fuck of a shock when I realized a good amount of the time it WAS me. Guy didn't like me? It's because I'm fat or ugly. Reality check: I was awkward as fuck; probably let my ADHD go full autistic and that's what scared them off. I came on here, thin skinned, threw myself into the lions den and came out stronger. If I can survive you guys, I can survive almost anything.

I'd be willing to wager most of these girls received the same counseling I did. That's why they can't take criticism for shit.

>> No.7832040

>>7831506
Your terrible grammar is totally pathetic too, but no ones unfriending you over it, TOM.

>> No.7832044

>>7831776
>http://nagamifumi.tumblr.com/

>> No.7832046

>>7831514
so much potential cries

>> No.7832047

>>7832039
I kinda had the same upbringing, lots of people telling me everything I did was perfect and I was SO smart and blahblah. Other people didn't like me because they were bullies. But my take on it is that if I could grow the fuck up and realize that i'm not perfect and that's okay why can't these girls? I didn't have some kind of special realization and I wasn't even that old, it's just sort of obvious.

>> No.7832054

>>7832039
I kind of wonder if people sabotage themselves sometimes. Like 9 times out of 10, instead of just trying to put together a decent lolita coord to start off with, they pull out their own ~speshul~ and ~unique~ touches even though they KNOW that usually gets frowned upon. Then when predictably they fail, they can pretend they are still perfect and complain that other lolitas are stuffy and hate creativity. Whereas if they tried to put together a proper lolita coord and they failed, it would mean (at least to them) that they actually just suck at fashion.

>> No.7832059

>>7832047
Exactly!
Honestly, coming on here grew my happy ass up. I was even more immature than I am now, so trying to reverse 23 years of damage took a bit. 4 fucking years, mate. FOUR. But, I love you guys for it.

Anyway, sappy bullshit over. Sage for bitch tears.

>> No.7832063

>>7832039
I'm picking up what you're putting down, but at the same time, there are a lot of girls who need a softer approach with concrit, I applaud you for throwing yourself in the lions den and coming out victorious and a better lolita, but some girls just get torn to shreds and don't get back up. I feel for them.

I guess they see some more experienced lolitas like mentors or big sisters, and it hurts when they turn on the tough love. I think tough love can help a lot of these girls, but when people cross the line (your outfit needs work =/= landwhale fugly ita etc) its not so cool.

Since it IS a niche fashion, one would assume there'd be a little solidarity in lolita but its actually pretty hostile for newbs if they screw up their first attempt.

Again, I really do agree with a lot of your points, and you seem to have a decent attitude.

>> No.7832066

>>7832039
BF of lolita fashionista:

A THOUSAND TIMES THIS! This shit needs to be made into a form of copypasta and spread around the "internet" like a fucking plague!

>> No.7832067

>>7832046
well, she has an interesting theme going, she's chubby but not ugly, her colors mostly match, and she seems well groomed. her only big fuck up is the end result.

>> No.7832070

>>7832059
I always like hearing about cgl helping people, lol. I think it is so important for people to learn to take criticism. I don't know if it is a generational trait or just happens to a lot of young people but it bothers me to see so many people with the attitude "I'm perfect, everyone else is a hater" what do these people do when they get a job etc?
Anyway good on you for trying to improve yourself - it's definitely the way to go. It's so nice, instead of feeling anxious online because of ~haters and trolls~ I can just laugh along and accept that people not liking x about me, doesn't actually matter. I think it's a good perspective to have about oneself! Taking myself super seriously was exhausting and inhibiting.

>> No.7832072

>>7832067
Very true, though I think if she's a beginner she should go for white/blue rather than pink/white/blue. easier and would overall be cohesive

>> No.7832073

>>7832054
For me, it was not wanting to be cookie cutter and just copy brand (which I had no idea it wouldn't fit my gargantuan ass) and I'm also seeing all these girls who put together awesome thrifted finds and I wanted to be them. So, like I said, my first attempts were very plain and bad or a huge clusterfuck. And it left me wondering why couldn't I be awesome like those girls? *insert 3+ years of Internet searching* Now I'm pretty decent and I can thrift pretty well nowadays. Even though I'm convinced I still suck at fashion...but I digress.
I'll spare y'all the huge rant about instant gratification and how no one wants to learn, they just want to be awesome at something automatically.

>> No.7832089

>>7831481
Judging by her looks she is way too old to be acting that immature. She's got to be at least 30... That behavior from the kids is annoying. From older newbies it's just sad.

>> No.7832092

>>7832063
True true. I do apologize; I kinda forget some girls just have a naturally sensitive nature about them.
Let me throw in that I do believe some also just think that any negativity - including CC - is a huge personal attack against them as a person and they take it to the extreme.

And neither side is perfect either. Like one anon said, we are so used to the bad stereotypes and negativity that we try to quell anything that would paint us even more in a bad light without realizing we're scaring away a new generation. And yet we are bombarded with "elitist noobs" who shut down any advice with a horrible attitude and their reactions scare off new people too.
I try to give advice, I really do. But I will admit my harshness comes from being told I'm an elitist and having my credibility bashed...and also me being a cunt, but hey, at least i admit it. Lol

>> No.7832094

>>7831506
I don't necessarily like her coord that much but as for "Tom" I love it when shitty people do you a favor and then remove themselves from your life.

>> No.7832097

Damn you guys actually do this kind of stuff for fun? and here I thought /v/ was stupid.
What's the point?

>> No.7832099

>>7831783
I-is her face photoshopped in there?
Nothing about the angle seems physically correct.

>> No.7832100

>>7831987
Except they do take internet opinions seriously so maybe it shouldn't have been on tumblr? "I knew this was going to happen" "I'm crying" baww. Not sorry. I waited years so I could handle the crap. Do you. But grow a thicker skin or do you less publicly. There are options.

>> No.7832101

>>7832070
>what do these people do when they get a job etc
For years I'd be bitter about getting fired from my job, literally crying "why me? Why did I get fired? I did nothing wrong." Being totally honest with myself, I can count on one hand out of the countless jobs I've had where it truly wasn't my fault. Now that I'm out of that mentality, I've kept this job for over a year and my previous job for 3. I pity their coworkers...as I pity my old ones. Ugh. Brb, shower. Gotta wash the second hand embarrassment away...

>> No.7832106

>>7832100
>Not sorry. I waited years so I could handle the crap. Do you. But grow a thicker skin or do you less publicly. There are options.

THIS. THIS THIS THIS. It's like not shaving your legs. IDGAF if you do or not, but someone out there will and will point it out mercilessly. The world is flawed, and if you go against the grain, be prepared to take some shit.

Jesus, this whole thread should be in an article or something. Awesome advice all around. Didn't know cgl could get so deep. Lol

>> No.7832112

>>7832070
Basically we were told over and over that it's NEVER us. I wore alt clothes in middle & high school and was aware that people were dicks for that reason but when I was "normally dressed" before that I got crap too. And it was never me unless it was from my family (that's a while nother story). Truth is I poorly socialized as a child and horribly anxious and it put other kids off. I could have learned but even my therapists are all "they're bad" yes they were but I did need some social skills and am still trying to learn them now. The scary part is many of this generation are now parents and they have no clue they need similar skills worked on.

>> No.7832114

>>7832106
I also used to avoid this place like the plague but cgl lurking helped me find a middle ground. Some of you fuckers are nuts but I see both extremes better.
Sage for OT

>> No.7832117

>>7832015
>Geek Social Fallacy #1: Ostracizers Are Evil

>>7832039
That's pretty much how my mother raised me. According to her I was a hyper intelligent successful model-gorgeous powerhouse of awesome who could never ever do anything wrong and if I ever questioned myself that was a Bad Thing. Fortunately I had my father who would sometimes pull me aside and steer me in the right direction. Unfortunately he had no clue about fashion so until a few years ago I was a complete mess. But when I do get criticized on it by someone I look up to, I am able to not take it too personally.

>> No.7832122

>>7832100
Yeah exactly. Where do people get the impression that the internet is a nice kind hugbox? The only thing about it that isn't worse than real life is that people can't physically attack you. Victim complex maybe?

>> No.7832126

>>7832122
I'm sure there are many reasons but in the case of being told it's never your fault you are taught that you are ALWAYS the victim your whole life. It creates victim complexes at an alarming rate

>> No.7832152

>>7832100
"the world is a harsh place" is not an excuse for you to be an ass. and for the people who are saying that criticue helps you grow: that blog was obviously mean spirited, for making fun and putting "in your ita place", not "helpful tips for progression" Most of you are builidng walls around your subculture to keep out the people who don't live up to your standards, not helping them.

>> No.7832161

>>7832152
Oh please. The tumblr author might be harsh but she lists out every single thing that could be improved on the coord. What do you expect her to do? Say "oh maybe your office skirt isn't very lolita teehee <3 <3"? Do you really think that to people like the girl in question, this would come off any better? Because there is plenty of history to show that it doesn't.

>> No.7832176

>>7832161
do you think the writing style is neutral? If the first criticue you get is " fix your ugly ass coord." then you will be irritated, get in a defensive position, even if you would've acted like a normal person and taken some advice form a less provocative approach.

>> No.7832179

>>7832152
Me? I haven't done shit. And I an hardly saying it's nice to do this but I have little sympathy for those who want both the sympathy and to say how they KNEW. They fucking knew the risk and all that happened was someone sharing their outfit as shit. If that makes you cry and you knew it would happen you are a moron. It's like knowing it's going to rain and crying because you made the dumb choice to not bring an umbrella. It's water, go home dry off and be done with it.
Seriously pointing out a bad choice =/= condoning the other side either. You are exactly the kind of immature I can't stand. I was you. I hope you gain some real self esteem like I did, rather than getting this ruffled over being called ita on the teh interwebs.

>> No.7832187

>>7832176
People have done the less provocative approach though. They do it over and over. I mean there is pretty much daily a post on CoF, where some ita posts some sad questionably lolita shit and someone kindly makes a suggestion and the girl who posted it flips out and all the mods get involved while the ita whiteknight squad swarms in to defend her for being so creative. I'll take a little harsh over that any day.

>> No.7832193
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>>7832179
While I partitially agree with you, I still have to say that you're dumb for thinking you can go around the internet making such harsh comments and then wonder why people get all upset about it or criticize you. It's just as stupid as they act, only from the opposite point.
What did you expect from those people, rational thinking or them bowing down to you and thanking you from saving them from their own ita-ness and horrbile character? Continue being a bitch, I really enjoy the blog and bitching (which is why I am here), but don't go all high and mighty and "waaah wahh why can't anyone take criticism I'm just honest!??". It is equally annoying.

>> No.7832195

>>7832179
I don't even dress as a lolita. I can take critique, I've been to art school, I work as a designer. It's just think it's rather immature to make fun of people who obviously admire the fashion and want to try it out too because you think it's "dragging down lolita rep" or something. And then be pointing fingers when they respond negatively to a negative approach.
>>7832187
I can't blame getting harsher when the ita gets offended by a regular critique, but the blog I saw puts all the people in a presumed guilt state.
They are all different people.

>> No.7832212

>>7832193
haha you kind of have a point. However, I think most people are just trying to explain why they think this kind of criticism has a place and why they believe in it. I think most people here would admit they are bitches. Some have in this thread. I think this kind of criticism is good but I am also just a bitch. It's a fault, yes, but I also like it about myself, and feel better for having accepted it. You don't see many of these itas admitting they have any faults, or do anything less then perfect.

>> No.7832235

>>7832195
But what it all comes back to, is if they don't want any opinions then why post it online in the first place? No one is making you post anything online, much less in a place that's specifically meant for commentary and opinions. You could just post it for your friends and family to see, but they also tag it so that everybody else sees it when looking for lolita fashion. Why do this? The answer is, they DO want comments, but only positive ones. So basically, they are just posting it to get praise. It really rubs me the wrong way, it's basically saying look at me, I've done this thing and I'm showing it to you but you can only say something nice. What? This isn't kindergarten show and tell. It's so juvenile. It just seems like they are trying to score ego boosts off of strangers. I wish I could explain it better but it really comes off badly.

>> No.7832239

>>7832235
If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.

>> No.7832254

>>7832239
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_Reform_and_the_Psychology_of_Totalism#Thought-terminating_clich.C3.A9

>> No.7832255

I just feel the need to point out >>7831481 for a moment.

>told her it wasn't lolita and explained the different shapes and styles politely, gave her some tips and feedback and she responds
>"OMG YAY! I got my first hater! Thank you for taking time out of your meaningless and lackluster existence to tell me how horrifying my outfit is! Your mother must be very proud!"
Calling someone a fugly ita landwhale isn't nice OR constructive and people have every right to be upset with that. What most people here are complaining about, though, is the attitude in this^ situation, where ANYTHING that isn't a compliment is an attack from a hater, which is complete bullshit that poisons the community and needs to stop.

>> No.7832257

>>7832235
It doesn't come back to that. Those are two separate points. Yes, you definitely can expect harsh as shit criticism when you post your shit online. No, you don't have to behave like a piece of shit to dole out criticism. You 100% should not be patting yourself on the back if that's what you're doing and if you see any other alternative as hugboxy.

>> No.7832268

>>7832235
> I've done this thing and I'm showing it to you but you can only say something nice.
you're presuming that from everyone and accepting the obviously meanspirited responses because of that. That's not right. And when you're new to some art movement (be it visual, musical, dance whatever) then you don't jet have the eye to make differences between a good and bad attempt and may think you've made something good, thus not expecting such a mean critique. SO I can understand them posting online and being suprised when people don't think it's as good as they do.

>> No.7832270

>>7832254
Do you even know what sarcasm is?

>> No.7832307

>>7832270
>repeats a really common and oft-used cliche with no hint of irony
>OMG idiot doesn't recognize obvious sarcasm
Asshole.
>>7832268
I'm not really talking about people who get mean critique though. I'm talking about people who get very light suggestions, and flip out about it. It's also kind of egotistical to be new to an art form and expect your first thing ever to be totally awesome and on par with the pros. Like, I would not start doing pottery out of the blue and then cry when people point out my pots are a little wobbly. That should be expected because I'm new. If I don't want people to say thing like that then I would just make pots at my home to admire and not show them to people.
I like drawing. I do it for myself personally. I suck at drawing though so I don't post my drawings online, they're just for me. I don't care to improve at it because it's for my own purposes, to relax or to get some thought down on paper. If I wanted to improve or get help, I would post online, because there is some reasonable expectation that, if you are an artist, and you put your things out in public, you are open to feedback. I see certain fashions as art forms and think they have the same unspoken "rules" about them and I'm clearly not the only one. I wouldn't post my crappy drawings online, and then announce to everyone that I was only posting to show off my creativity and don't want any help. Why post it then? It doesn't make any sense and just seems really juvenile.

>> No.7832334

>>7832307
Well, that's the difference then. I'm specifically talking about being a bitch towards beginners like http://nastyfrills.tumblr.com/ is being. Sure she's telling whats wrong, but in a really humiliating way. If you're a master and a mature person then you shouldn't get catty like that without provocation and shouldn't accept others who do so either. (and btw. I can totally see someone new just thinking lolita - it's sweet frilly dresses, If I wear one I'll just be the same. You don't presume it's such an "art form")

>> No.7832373

>>7832334
The blog is also really fucking embarrassing since it so obviously belongs with a seagull with a shitty attitude. I wish edgy morons would stop trying to represent us.

Greentexting outside of fucking 4chan, goddamn. Bitch needs to grow some dignity.

>> No.7832385

>>7832373
Belongs *to, shit.

>> No.7832402

>>7832373
And why would you use 4chan lingo on tumblr. It's embarassing

>> No.7832407

>>7832402
It really is, and she's throwing it around left and right.

>> No.7832408

>>7831688
If she got rid of the sweater, gotten a better petti, and worked on her hair, it would've been a cute coord
>mfw sheep garden is my dream dressu

>> No.7832423

>>7832334
Considering people get dressed every day like literally every day of their life, its not as if wearing clothes takes particular skill.

Yes, decent coords do take practice and it is an art form in a sense, but to a newb, lolita is basically just putting on clothes, so unless they put a cutsew on their legs it seems like they cant do it badly right?

Well ... wrong-ish. Making polished coords takes practice. If you've never made a pot in your life you can expect to fuck it up on your first try, but people wear clothes every day, getting dressed is easy, fitting into lolita style is not, but its still just getting dressed at the end of the day. Thats probably why they expect to be great at it since getting dressed is nothing new, but the style is pretty picky, thats wherein the trouble lies.

>> No.7832429

>>7832402
>>7832407
Yes that bothered me too. I get it's easy to fall into but it seems so try hard.

>> No.7832432

Nasty frills is unnecessary and embarassing and not even amusing and whoever runs it is a total cunt.qoop

>> No.7832436

>>7832423
I don't think so, most people understand that actual fashion is different then rolling out of bed and putting on jeans and a hoodie. I think they expect it to be great just because they think they are awesome and have been told by parents/school everything they do is great and people who disagree are just jealous. I think it's just that simple. It's not really uncommon or anything.

>> No.7832443

>>7832432
I'm sure they are a cunt but I get a kick out of reading it and think tumblr needs something like this, has needed something like this for awhile. I'm surprised there aren't more hate tumblrs

>> No.7832450

>>7832402
>greentexting on tumblr
I can't believe it, but it's just as embarassing as seeing tumblr-typing around here. Ew.

>> No.7832453

>>7832443
What's the link? I can't find it under nasty frills or nastyfrills

>> No.7832455

>>7832453
it is nastyfrills.tumblr.com

>> No.7832462

>>7832443
You really think this is going to improve/change tumblr somehow? That it's something that it needs? Granted, a lot of itas on tumblr need critique and need to be opened to critique, but this is executed so poorly all I can see it generating is resentment. It shit the bed, sorry.

>> No.7832465

>>7832462
It's improving tumblr for me

>> No.7832476

>>7832465
You have shit standards then. And if you want to improve tumblr for yourself edit who you follow better. Do the work.

>> No.7832496

>>7832476
What does this even mean? It's improving tumblr for me because I like reading snarky bitchery, not because it's already weeding out itas in droves. And really, I have shit standards for blogs on the site that hosts more SJWs anywhere else on the internet. Lol.

>> No.7832526

>>7832455
>Calls out shitty itas
>Doesn't hate fatties/uglies
I like it, good job tumblr

>> No.7832551

>>7832496
>snarky bitchery
I think that's what threw me off and caused me to question your standards. I guess this tumblr IS snarky, but greentexting is the bare minimum amount of effort. It isn't amusing or funny. Actually, now that I think of it, it's not even those things in greentext standards.

But idk, man, from the way you type, you seem like you have shit taste over all. Everyone's different.

>> No.7832553

>>7832526
ive always wanted to do this. im sad i didnt

>> No.7832555

>>7831506
Who keeps posting her to the ita thread?
Stop. She's not ita.

>> No.7832556

>>7832015
Actually I can take hate from lolitas better than random non-lolitas.
I don't know how to explain it but 85% if another Loli hates my outfit it's because something was off about it.

>> No.7832562

>>7831783
People need to look up the word ita and try again.

>> No.7832565

>>7832462
It most likely won't change anything
But having new drama is always a blessing

>> No.7832567
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7832567

Most recent 2 posts in Portland:
>hey check out this place I found for fabric but it's kind of expensive (it's a link to spoonflower)
>I think this petti might be too big! (pic related)
I can't tell if the second one is joking or not. It's strangely sincere.

>> No.7832574

>>7832193
Except I didn't make a harsh comment unless pointing out to listen to what you "knew" would happen is harsh. Holy hugbox.

>> No.7832586

>>7832567
>that room
Why do itas always seem to live in filth

>> No.7832596

>>7832551
Yes, the green texting is lame. I think everyone agrees. Did you get posted there or something? If you don't like it, you don't have to read or follow it. No one is making you look at it. At least the other complaints about in this thread have somewhat useful thoughts, you just seem to hate the mere fact the blog exists and that other people don't hate it as much as you do.
>But idk, man, from the way you type, you seem like you have shit taste over all.
Really, that's the best you can do?

>> No.7832603

>>7832553
It's not like they are doing a great job, why don't you do it? Tumblr is free

>> No.7832611

Wasn't there a blog like this about a year back or so that tried to do the same thing? lolita concrit or something on tumblr as well. I just remember it got torn apart and when people found out who was running it she got personally attacked too, and she phrased her concrit a lot more productively than this wanking on itas. Idk, I just don't know why you (the nastyfrills creator) thought this would go any differently?

>> No.7832614

>>7832586
>most itas are slovently and don't care about their appearance
>most itas don't iron their clothes or properly store them
>same lack of regard applies to their homes and often their cars

I had a friend, love her to death, but she was a total ita. We used to take turns driving to meets, and her car was just a disaster. The back seat always had piles of crap in it. Text books, old newspapers, usually at least one grocery bag stuffed full of debris from half-hearted attempts to clean up.

She'd always clean the front seat off for me, but goddamn was the back a wreck.

>> No.7832620

>>7832596
Dude did you...create this tumblr? You're taking this awfully personally and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that responded to you. No, I've never been posted there. I'm not even lolita. I do otome. Did I somehow imply that I've got a very personal hate for this, other than thinking it's extremely poorly done? Surprise surprise, that's critique, and it's somehow still better than the critique posted there. At least I elaborate.

I don't follow it. I know I don't have to follow it. Everyone does. But it got posted here, so of course everyone's looking at it and if it looks like shit, they'll talk about it. You need to learn how to handle shit like this even if you're not the one behind that tumblr. I'd hate to see how you'd react to someone critiquing your coord.

>> No.7832627

>>7832611
Who are you talking to? I don't think the creator is here, if she is she is lurking, most comments here are ripping on the blog or offering suggestions in some shape or form. No one is stupid enough to make a blog like that and not expect anyone to say something negative about it.

>> No.7832630

>>7832627
I think they're posting just in case she's lurking. To be fair, she probably is lurking here.

>> No.7832640

>>7832436
They might also come from the kind of environment where anything but jeans and a hoodie is "omg so dressy". Before I got into lolita, when I put on a dress I'd get people asking me if I were going to a party or to a wedding even if the dress was super plain and I was wearing it with flipflops. The first "lolita coord" I put together consisted of a regular blouse, a poofy handmade skirt, a petticoat, plain knee high socks and vaguely mary jane-ish flats. In the context of my regular environment I looked like a princess but in a lolita context I looked plain and frumpy. If I posted this to the internet expecting the kind of praise I got from my parents, teachers and schoolmates but instead got "everything looks plain and shitty, replace them with nicer things" I'd be really confused and upset, too.
I still wouldn't call anyone pathetic haters though because even at 15 I wasn't that fucking immature.

>> No.7832641

>>7832620
What is your problem? All I said is that I think the blog is funny but agreed I don't like the greentext. You keep replying to me saying I have shit standards and shit taste in everything because of how I type (wat), etc. Of course it looks like you are taking something personally, you're lashing out at people for liking something you don't. I don't go around insulting other people because they find something funny I don't. It's usually pretentious, insecure douchebags who do that sort of thing.

>> No.7832648

>>7832641
C'mon, anon, that's not all you said.

>> No.7832651

>>7832630
I think she would have posted more then 13 hours ago if she was online because she was posting pretty consistently before then. But that's admittedly shaky evidence. Either way I'm positive she will read it at some point but it's weird to accuse her of "thinking this will go any differently" when I don't see any evidence of her complaining about criticism, or having any expectation of how it should go?

>> No.7832652

>>7832556
That makes sense. If another lolita doesn't like your outfit it can probably be fixed in such a way that she does like it, but if a random bystander hates your outfit they will probably hate it even if you do everything right look 100% on point by lolita standards. There's no pleasing them, which is frustrating if you care about that sort of thing.

>> No.7832654

>>7832648
All anons are the same right? You are so new it's not even funny anymore.

>> No.7832658

>>7832651
Oh, I was thinking more along the lines of the ita thread being a good source of content for her tumblr. If someone posts an ita here and she posts anon asking for a sauce on their tumblr she has easy peasy content. So yeah, I figure she's here already and knows to keep quiet or she'll be here eventually

>> No.7832663

>>7832654
Dude, please stop. I was talking about the content of your post. The whole "if u don't like it don't follow"/immediately accusing someone of getting posting there for disliking it. It's just as inflammatory as someone implying you have shit taste, which apparently hit a nerve. Jumping you "you must be so new" also smacks of baby level bait, but okay.

>> No.7832665

>>7832651
> it's weird to accuse her of "thinking this will go any differently" when I don't see any evidence of her complaining about criticism
It's ironic you defend her like that

>> No.7832666

>>7832663
To*

>> No.7832671

>>7832663
>"please stop!"
>posts angrily 3 times in a row

>> No.7832673

>>7832652
Yeah! I'm glad that made sense, I've been out of it the entire day.

>> No.7832677

>>7832652
yeah that makes sense. of course there are always the "sweet lolita is always ageplay" people but they don't comment on individual coords much

>> No.7832702

>>7832193
>>7832195
>>7832620
>>7832255
>>7832334

How do you people even survive in the real world? And it's always literally cunts who aren't in the fashion who post this shit.
"I'm not in lolita but-" should be on par with "guy here and I think-"
Literally nothing you say is of value

>> No.7832707

>>7831885
found it:
>http://nastyfrills.tumblr.com/
some nice ita pics, but the blog owner is pretty cringey.

>> No.7832719

>>7832620
>>7832596
Oh boy it's the classic, "if you defend/hate on someone you must BE that person/their enemy!" and from both sides too.

Protip: if someone has already used that shitty tired argument against you, at least try to think of something else.

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>>7831394
>Those legs

>> No.7832722

>>7832719
Yo, they stopped responding to you, anon. You can chill now.

>> No.7832727

>>7832702
Just because a person can tell when someone is being an ass doesn't mean they don't have thick skin. And don't think so simplified. It's not an argument against criticism.

>> No.7832733 [DELETED] 

>>7832727
Are you lost are just stupid?

>> No.7832735

>>7832722
are you implying I just insulted myself? both of you faggots need to shut up and get back to posting itas.

>> No.7832738

>>7832733
Well, now I don't get you. What do you mean? I was answering to your "How do you people even survive in the real world?"

>> No.7832747

>>7832702
>"I'm not in lolita but-" should be on par with "guy here and I think-"
I like the way you think.

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7832748

I looked up the tag nastyfrills and already someone is doing that "omg report this horrible blog and signal boost this!!!" thing. That was fast.

This was confusing for me though...
>THEY DONT EVEN CONTACT THE FUCKING PERSON TO FIND OUT WHERE THEIR THINGS COME FROM
>AUTOMATICALLY IT’S SHIT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY KNOW BEST OR NAME BRAND???
... That's not what the blog owner is even criticizing on ANY of those posts, though.

Sounds like someone's feeling insecure about their lack of brand and getting unnecessarily defensive.

>> No.7832752

>>7832748
Oh god thats hilarious.
>CUNT ALERT
Somebody please reblog it and complain about how she is using GENDERED AND MISOGYNISTIC LANGUAGE pretty please? For me?

>> No.7832755

>>7832748
>Sounds like someone's feeling insecure about their lack of brand and getting unnecessarily defensive.
Yes exactly. She didn't even rip on that hideous sugary carnival knockoff that looks like a pastel potato sack. How is it about brand?

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>> No.7832758

>>7832752
Lololol yes plz someone I'm not on tumblr

>> No.7832761

less talking and moar ita

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>>7832758
If anyone asks I don't go on CGL

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jesus browsing through the "plus size lolita" tag is a gold mine. Most are ok but some are just .. wow

>> No.7832771
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7832771

>>7832768
Punk lolita is a good tag too

>> No.7832776

>>7832763
they said bitch not cunt. you might wanna fix that quick anon

>> No.7832779

>>7832652
Worse is when you get a friend who has been loli longer than you, but trashes you behind your back. I admit that yah, out of loli, I wasn't the *best dressed*, but I tried. The coord she ripped me on, I really worked hard on to make everything look neat, have my hair on point. I got 5 times more positive than negative, and the only negative that really shown on the LJ EGL was "don't show your bloomers!" and "wear tights!" (I had taken them off, cus fuck 95 F and humid) yet this bitch out of loli wore men's jeans and oversized shirts... yet I'm a fucking wreck all the time? What. I found out she did it through someone else, who then screencapped it. Like, I have thick skin, but during this time I was depressed and selling OFF possessions for my demise. She knew too, that's what makes it worse.

her tumblr is full of SJW and shit now...Neither of us is into loli anymore but I will admit my dressing in that.. uh.. 5+ years has gotten way better, and my hair as well. I have come a way fashion wise.. but the unnecessary trashing from someone I respected? Fucking not cool. especially behind my back.

>> No.7832780

>>7832763
I love you
>>7832776
Oh shit yeah fix it

>> No.7832781

>>7832776
they did in their link to the nastyfrills blog

>> No.7832787

>>7832779
>Like, I have thick skin, but during this time I was depressed and selling OFF possessions for my demise. She knew too, that's what makes it worse.
Wow that's horrible.. somehow not surprised she is an SJW now

>> No.7832789

>>7832776
>>7832780
Love you too!
They said it in their link but I didn't even catch the bitch part

Like it's something with caps where I just stop reading after a few words

>> No.7832793

>>7831327
vendetta

>> No.7832796

>>7831344
This is like tumblr in one picture jfc

>> No.7832799

>>7831365
Left reminds me of when I was new and thought the petti had to go right to where your skirt ends, but worse.

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7832805

>>7832771
Dumping

>> No.7832808

>>7832796
Lol. All it needs is some kind of Sailor Moon wand or accessory

>> No.7832809

>>7832787
oh man, the stories I have of her SJWing (She has anxiety! She can't face people! She's horrible with names! But can recite the names of other things! Supernatural!).

I'm good now, I still have some slip-ups, but she claims that I do it "for drama". Bitch, I get fucking depressed when I'm not careful about my emotions and mental health. Least I conquer my demons.
Ah, /CGL, you remind me why I left and yet come back every few years.

>> No.7832811
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>>7832805
Not ita but it's always good to keep in mind how your face looks when it's camera time

>> No.7832815

>>7831506
Not a huge fan of the ears, but they sorta work with the print so not too bad. Tom is a dick. reminds me of this dick I used to know who commented "disturbing" on a video of a girl in my comm I shared. I was like wtf dude thats my friend and he backpedaled and deleted his comment.

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>>7832811

>> No.7832824

>>7831890
>loli
bitch needs to gtfo

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>>7832818

>> No.7832832
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>>7832830

>> No.7832837

>>7832830
>filename
A+

>> No.7832843

>>7832748
>post and blog already deleted

>> No.7832848

>>7832768
Thats that person who got offended over being called she right?

>> No.7832852

>>7832756
Oh my god, the poor thing. She looks so sad. Her face reminds me of an antique portrait of a little girl, but morbidly obese. She doesn't even look real!

I was honestly hoping her coord would be decent... but nope, it's ita as hell. Somehow I feel like I want to be her friend and help her, though.

>> No.7832863

>>7832702
I posted >>7832255 and I'm not sure why my post is in that list. Is it because I think calling people fugly ita landwhales isn't nice, or what? I've been wearing lolita for more than 6 years by the way.

>> No.7832870

>>7832805
I know this is supposed to be some kind of half assed Hawke cosplay but it really just looks like an ita emo kid who scratched her nose right after inserting a tampon.

>> No.7832883

>>7831912
I chuckled

>> No.7832885

>>7832843
You must've spelt the url wrong 'cause they're both still active

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>>7832748
>get them before they heart people
>that illegible font
Oh, tumblr...

>> No.7833176

>>7831318
What's wrong with her coord? She said it was for International Red Panda Day (hence the print) and that the cardigan wasn't actually part of the coord, that it was just cold and that that was the only full coord shot she had. If you remove the cardigan, what's wrong with her coord that makes it ita?

>> No.7833183

>>7833176
>what's wrong with her coord that makes it ita?
Literally everything else.

This "coord" is a lazy costume with an attempt to incorporate lolita elements at best.

>> No.7833186

>>7833176
Really? It was already spelled out in the tumblr but ok. Nothing about the coord is lolita. The blouse isn't lolita, it's just a casual or office blouse. The bracelet isn't lolita, rock/gem bracelets rarely work for lolita. The flower crown doesn't match and animal ears (red panda ears, who cares) are notoriously ita; they can be worked but not in this case. And that belt belongs in a a casual office coord not a lolita coord. Belts rarely work and when they do it's usually only certain ones with classic or fancy ones with gothic. I guess this is more sweet than anything although it's really hard to tell. You can't just put a random belt, blouse, hair accessory and jewelry together with a poofy skirt and call it lolita. If you swapped the skirt out with a pencil skirt you pretty much just have general office lady attire save the headband so that should be the biggest hint something is wrong here.

>> No.7833187

>>7833183
It was for a fundraiser. I thought it was obvious that it was supposed to be a casual coord. It's not like she was going to a brand tea party in it.

>> No.7833188

>>7833146
this is the first post they've made in almost 2 years. possible troll just trying to stir shit?

>> No.7833192

>>7833187
It can still be ita if it's casual, you realize...

>> No.7833196

>>7833186
Didn't see the tumblr post. But still. It was for a fundraiser and obviously a casual coord. People wear t-shirts in their casual coords all the time. What's wrong with a more casual blouse?

>> No.7833197

>>7833196
I don't think you really get it

>> No.7833203

>>7833192
Yes, but casual is also more flexible. It just don't see the ita here. I'm not a fan of the belt and the flower crown wouldn't have been my first choice, but I don't think it ruins her whole outfit for something in a casual, non-lolita setting.

>> No.7833204

>>7833187
"Casual" is the blanket term used almost exclusively by itas to try and excuse lazy as fuck pseudo-attempts at lolita, which is exactly what this was.
And sure, an awareness fundraiser is totally the time to show everyone how bad you are at dressing yourself. 0/10 would not trust her with my money.

>> No.7833206

>>7833196
It's not just the blouse. It's literally everything. Like if I slap on an AP skirt over a hoodie and converse it's not magically lolita. You seriously can't tell the difference between a cute, casual cutsew and a shirt that doesn't belong in lolita period? Holy fuck you are dense.
And yes a lot of us incorporate lolita pieces into non-lolita coords, but we don't tag them as LOLITA or casual lolita because they aren't lolita. It's not a fucking difficult concept. If she just said "hey this is my red panda outfit for a fundraiser" no one would care

>> No.7833207

>>7833197
This. Either that or a really crappy troll

>> No.7833212

>>7833203
>the flower crown wouldn't have been my first choice
What would have been your first choice? A baseball cap? A beanie? Just trying to get a sense of your clearly stellar sense of the fashion here.

>> No.7833214

>>7833146
please for the love of god get them before they heart someone

>> No.7833222

>>7833207
Nope. I know what you mean, I just disagree. I don't think it's ita. You keep saying it's not lolita, anyways. If it's not, how can it be ita?

>> No.7833223

>>7833212
Headbow. Probably of a color to match the skirt. Or black.

>> No.7833224

>>7833222
It was an attempt at lolita, which is what makes it painful. If she didn't slap the lolita label on it there wouldn't be a problem, she tried so hard to force the aesthetic though that it blew up in her face.

>> No.7833225

>>7831409
the fuck

>> No.7833226

>>7833222
Because she is labeling it as lolita and meant for it to be a lolita coord

>being this stupid

>> No.7833229

>>7831783
wtf not even remotely ita

>> No.7833247

>>7831514
I like the idea of the coord, but she needs better posture and all that stuff going on in the middle looks very unflattering and saggy with her shape. If she fixed that, I think it would be right cute!

>> No.7833250

>>7833224
I guess I'm having a hard time seeing it as forced. It seems obvious to me. Bell-shaped skirt with a petticoat, modest top, tight... Seems like the basic aesthetic to me. Best coord ever? Maybe not, but it just doesn't reach ita level for me.

>> No.7833253

>>7833250
Tights*

>> No.7833256

>>7833250
Then shut up and lurk much harder because you clearly have no idea what you're doing.

>> No.7833258

>>7831318
Just realized her boobs are draping over the skirt.

>> No.7833264

>>7833256
Nope. I know exactly what I'm doing. I have wonderful coords. I'm just more forgiving when it comes to what other people are wearing.

>> No.7833268

>>7833264
pics of "wonderful coords" pls

Girl's a hot mess and if you really can't see why she looks like she got dressed in the dark, there's little hope for you.

>> No.7833273
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>>7833196
Holy shit anon, her coord was total shit
Stop acting like a faggot and accept that

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7833274

>>7833264

>> No.7833276

>>7833268
Lol no. I've only been posted here once and it was in a positive manner. Never been posted as an ita.

>> No.7833280

>>7833274
That's basically what I've been doing this whole time.

>> No.7833282
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7833282

>>7833264
>wonderful coords
fuckin lol'd
there's a massive difference between being "forgiving" and being straight up ignorant. Having to ask why that coord was bad in the first place lands you right smack in the middle of newfagville. Please, grace us with these "wonderful coords" since you're so bent on proving all of us mean seagulls wrong.

>> No.7833288

>>7833276
Don't worry anon, I definitely believe you're a 10/10 lolita. I invented the fashion and everyone on /cgl/ loves me, so I know what I'm talking about.

>> No.7833291
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7833291

>>7833276
>only been posted here once
Newsflash, if your coords were "wonderful" you'd be posted here a lot more than that. Enjoy your delusional newfag mindset.

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7833294

>>7833276
>>7833280
Holy shit stop responding you dumb shit

>> No.7833295

>>7833282
Nope. Lol. Not planning on making myself a target. I could post anyone's coord and you guys would still tear it apart because you're so hellbent on being right.

>> No.7833299

>>7831318
Tell me that isn't the selvedge edge.

>> No.7833300

>>7833291
Lol

>> No.7833302

>>7833295
If your coords are so wonderful, you'd already be a target because people would be jealous of you. And if you're such a fantastic lolita you shouldn't have to worry about anything cgl says about you anyway! Just fucking go for it, anon. Prove us all wrong. Prove that you're not just blowing shit out of your ass.

>plot twist: it's red panda girl whiteknighting herself

>> No.7833308
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7833308

>>7833302
How is that a plot twist I thought we all knew that as soon as she got so flustered about how "it was for a fundraising event! it's just casual!"

anyways
>>7833299
Holy shit I think it is. This trainwreck just caught fire and exploded.

>> No.7833310
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7833310

>>7833295
I've always thought you were a perfect lolita

This coord of yours is indeed wonderful

>> No.7833319

>>7833308
it's a twist for panda-chan because she didn't realize she was whiteknighting too hard
too bad it looks like she's gone, that was almost fun

>> No.7833322

>>7833310
Lol. Nope. Just a random person that stumbled in. Took my info about the coord from the CoF description that wasn't included in the picture posted here.

>> No.7833329
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7833329

Take your pick, really.

>> No.7833330

>>7833322
Of course you did, bless your heart

>> No.7833338

>>7833276
Hey fatass if you really believe that then I got a bridge in Brooklyn I think you'll be interested in buying

>> No.7833342

>>7833329
what the fuck is going on with the torso/limb thickness of girl on the left?

>> No.7833343

>>7833329
That one on the far right
>Don't laugh send help

Second from the right
>You seeing this bullshit right?

>> No.7833346

>>7833338
Believe what? Lol That I've only been posted in a positive manner? Well, I saw the post with my own eyes, so there really isn't any doubt.

>> No.7833348

>>7833329
holy shit at the girl in the chocoberry
sometimes I feel like I don't fit my dresses right, but damn this is taking it to a whole new level.

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7833354

>>7833348
And this is after she's modified the dress to "fit" herself I believe. I think she cut the straps where they met the back of the dress and added a second length of fabric so she could tie them over the shoulder.

>> No.7833356

>>7833343
It's like a gradient of ita levels or some shit.

>> No.7833374

>>7833354
At least she did it with Chocoberry and not brand

>> No.7833381

>>7832567
Jesus christ the petti picture. I was staring at the original post thinking "how do I even address this".

>> No.7833384
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7833384

>>7833329
Fuuuuck.

My comm.
I'm in this photo, too.

>> No.7833386

>>7833384
as long as you are either the girl to the far right, the one next to her, or the one 2 to the left , then you're fine

if you're any of the others though, ooh girl

>> No.7833387

>>7832768
There is just so much going on here

>> No.7833390

>>7833384
If you're either of the two girls on the far right you're fine. Far right could use some better shoes for that coord though.
Third from the left honestly isn't bad either. Just a little plain.
If you're any of the other 4 though, please get help.

>> No.7833397

>>7833384
which one are you, anon

>> No.7833399

>>7833329
tbh, whoever posted this, girl pls.

Next to no one is EVER well-dressed in this comm. Your outfits probably look equally shitty.

>inb4 which one are you
Didn't attend. teefuckinhee.

>> No.7833401

>>7833397
And out myself to my comm who obviously lurks and posts here?
Anon, plz.

>> No.7833404

>>7833401
If they lurk here too, how could they possibly get upset that you're here? If you didn't post the photo you have nothing to fear.

>> No.7833405

>>7833399
girl pls, you think the poster wouldn't be aware of that? This comm is so tongue-in cheek about everything, it's hilarious. At least there isn't heinous drama to make things shitty, just itas.

>> No.7833407

>>7833354
what comm is this?
she looks like a girl someone posted a few cringe threads ago who was piss her pants excited over her bodyline order (2 chocoberry skirts she planned on sewing together).

>> No.7833412

>>7833308
I didn't want to say anything because I feel the whole "if you're whiteknighting her you must be her" is lame but yeah.

>> No.7833413

>>7833404
Not all of them do. People often come here to see if their photos and shit got posted then report back, talking about how evil the girls on 4chan are.

The grills will probably get all crazy about finding out that one of their members is evil and posts on 4chan.

I guess they're ok. So I'd rather not stir or start drama. I'm not into that shit.
I just like observing the usual cgl chaos and bitching occasionally.

>I know I didn't need to write a fucking novel
>are you from my comm?

>> No.7833418

>>7833354
If you're saying what I think, the dress straps actually come like that m she needs to tie them a little more th... Oh hell what am I saying nothing can save this

>> No.7833419

>>7833413
Fire up the propane grills and let's go.

>> No.7833420

>>7833405
>there isn't heinous drama to make things shitty
I'd like to keep it that way.

>itas
It's not like I can openly critique without coming off like a heinous bitch. So I just don't.
Although I wish the lot of them would realize how utterly bad they look. Makes me sad.
I mean, christ, I'm no god-tier lolita, myself, so who am I to go openly throwing around opinions and advice no one gives a shit about anyway?

>> No.7833427

>>7833420
I'm right there with you friend. Try to drop advice gently when I can, but there's only so much you can do with these ladies. I feel like this summer had a bigger wave of newcomers than last year but whatever. We'll see if they stick around through winter.

>> No.7833436

>>7833329
I like how the one girl has dreamy girl but is covering almost all of it up with a shitty random Blazer. Why do itas think Blazers are lolita? Whet are they getting this from? Why does my auto correct think Blazer should be capitalized?

>> No.7833440

>>7833436
Those shoes are probably the only remotely loliable shoes she owns and she tried to make the black work (failing miserably of course). Also your post made me laugh.

>> No.7833457

>>7832870

oh

hawke makes more sense, i thought it was just a REALLY bad koujaku lol

>> No.7833466

>>7833436

Because lolita brands make cardigans, jackets, parkas, hoodies and so forth.

Most newbies don't realise that normal clothes are usually cut with a much lower waistline whereas lolita jackets and stuff are not only cut with a higher waistline, they're usually also made with extra flare after the waist in order to accomodate the extra poof in the skirts. They're also the ones likely to think you're being an elititst brandwhore if you try to tell them to get a lolita jacket instead of using a random office blazer because they literally can't figure out that there's a huge difference between the two silhouttes.

Same newbies usually also try to substitute office blouses with pointy collars for sweet lolita blouses, too.

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>> No.7833609

>>7833579
wat

I actually chuckled.

>> No.7833709
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7833709

This just popped up on my feed.

>> No.7833789

>>7831881
Who was it?

>> No.7833817

>>7833399
Idk I think there are one or two well dressed girls in the comm. No one is over the top amazing, but there are a few girls who wear solid-good coords on a regular basis.

>> No.7833869

>>7833709
That pink polkadot dress is kinda cute.

>> No.7833876

>>7833817
I agree!

I can't help but always felt kind of disappointed by this group, though.

Also, I can't help but be kind of put off by the main mod.
She seems lovely, I guess, but I'm not even sure what she wears can even be classified as lolita most of the time.

Sorry, not sorry.

>> No.7834423

>>7831327
Those are more nitpick than ita.

>> No.7834487

>>7833329
second to right is pretty cute imo

>> No.7834515

>>7833869
the only thing off about that one girl is the eye makeup, and maybe shoes

>> No.7834520

>>7833876
is the main mod in that picture?

>> No.7834777

>>7834520
Nah. I've always found the main mod to be really nice. She's been into lolita for something like 10 years and really knows how to work with what she has.

>> No.7836010

I'm the owner of nastyfrills! i wasn't expecting anyone to follow it or even look at it, i just reblog terrible shit i see in the tags sometimes. Yeah, greentexting is pretty lame, but it's a neat way to lay everything out.

>> No.7837888

>>7833876
The main mod (D) is pretty cool and nice. The other (C) has no fucking clue how to do anything and is constantly asking noob questions ("Is F+F okay?" "How do I order from IW?" etc.) which imo means she shouldn't be a fucking mod. Every time she asks a question I facepalm.